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00:00:34.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, April 6, 2015.

00:00:36.000 I'm David Nye and I'll be your host today.

00:00:40.000 And joining us in the second hour will be Paul Joseph Watson talking about the amazing breaking story.

00:00:47.000 Again, we've had many times where the media has been caught in Really huge lies.

00:00:53.000 We saw that happen with the NBC anchor.

00:00:55.000 Now we're seeing this happening with the Rolling Stones about rape at the university.

00:00:59.000 So we're going to break that down in the second hour and talk about that.

00:01:01.000 But of course, really breathing down all of our necks is the police state.

00:01:07.000 Nothing we do seems to have any effect in terms of what we look at.

00:01:12.000 And we're going to look at what happened in Kenya in light of that, as well as another example of Christian persecution and the media's silence on that.

00:01:20.000 We have an article on InfoWars.com.

00:01:22.000 The Pope spoke out on Easter message, said that the world is complicit in silence on what happened in Kenya.

00:01:32.000 Because quite obviously that was strictly religiously based.

00:01:36.000 That was Islamist terrorists that were attacking Christian students, specifically looking for Christian students.

00:01:41.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:01:43.000 And you need to understand, as I noted on here, you're not going to get any sympathy or protection from the government or from the press or from the world.

00:01:53.000 You need to be able to protect yourself, especially if you're a hated minority. 0.84

00:01:58.000 And of course, Christians have become A hated minority throughout the world.

00:02:02.000 We're seeing more and more of that.

00:02:04.000 So you need to be able to protect yourself and nothing illustrates that better than what happened in Kenya. 0.61

00:02:10.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:02:11.000 Why did this go on for seven hours before the government got any troops there?

00:02:17.000 Is the answer to have even more police, more troops?

00:02:21.000 I don't think so.

00:02:23.000 Having more men with guns ruling over you does not make you any more free, doesn't make you any more secure.

00:02:29.000 We haven't learned that lesson in America.

00:02:31.000 Maybe from a distance we can get some insights into this if we look at the Kenya situation as well.

00:02:37.000 Of course, there's an election coming up tomorrow.

00:02:38.000 We're going to talk a little bit about that.

00:02:39.000 That's in Chicago.

00:02:41.000 Rahm Emanuel is facing a runoff.

00:02:43.000 Everybody was pretty surprised that he was going to be facing a runoff.

00:02:47.000 This is a Cook County Commissioner, Jesus Chuy Garcia, is giving him a run for his money.

00:02:52.000 And guess what?

00:02:52.000 One of the key issues is there.

00:02:55.000 Red light cameras.

00:02:58.000 Now that may sound like something that's kind of a side issue, but as one of the persons who's very angry about this, hopping mad about this, he's gotten more than, this one individual says he's gotten more than a thousand dollars in red light camera tickets in Chicago.

00:03:14.000 And Chicago is used more heavily than anywhere else in the country.

00:03:17.000 But of course, it's Chicago.

00:03:19.000 And of course, it's policing for profit.

00:03:22.000 And whenever you've got either one of those two things, you've also got corruption.

00:03:26.000 And that's also a part of the story there.

00:03:28.000 We have a story that's also breaking on Infowars.com.

00:03:31.000 Bloody nanny state. 0.99

00:03:32.000 School bands running on the playground.

00:03:34.000 How many ways are they going to come after us and our children to make sure that we lock them in the house and never let them get outside?

00:03:44.000 Playing outside, playing in a playground, walking home from just a short distance.

00:03:49.000 I mean, come on!

00:03:50.000 I grew up not that long ago and I was able to play outside.

00:03:54.000 We used to have people that had large bells to call their kids home in the suburbs because it was dinner time.

00:04:01.000 Otherwise, the kids would be out playing freely.

00:04:03.000 But of course, we can't have that today.

00:04:04.000 We have to be so afraid of everything.

00:04:07.000 And the government uses that fear to ratchet down the police state.

00:04:12.000 As I said, we're going to talk about the amazing death toll, not only in Kenya, but in America.

00:04:18.000 We've had 100 people killed by the cops in March.

00:04:23.000 That's up from January and February.

00:04:25.000 We had 176, I think it was, over those two months.

00:04:29.000 And then in March, it goes up to 100 in just one month.

00:04:33.000 And of course, that's more than the UK has had over a very long period of time.

00:04:37.000 We're going to break down the statistics for that and tell you what's behind it.

00:04:40.000 Every day, we see these stories.

00:04:43.000 And nothing seems to have any effect, whether it's the NSA spying or whether it's police brutality that's out of control.

00:04:49.000 We can keep telling you these stories, but it's like Reagan's Teflon presidency.

00:04:53.000 No matter how many scandals came out with Iran-Contra or the crack cocaine epidemic, nothing they could throw at him would stick.

00:04:59.000 And apparently, the police state has gotten that way as well.

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00:08:31.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show on this Monday, April 6, 2015.

00:08:37.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

00:08:39.000 We're going to be joined by Paul Joseph Watson in the second hour.

00:08:41.000 We're going to talk about the journalistic issues that have been brought up, the integrity issues that have been brought up with this story on Rolling Stones magazine about the fake rape situation there.

00:08:52.000 Of course, we also have a story that we'll talk to him about on Infowars.com.

00:08:56.000 Top Cop says insulting someone on Facebook can get you arrested.

00:09:01.000 There you go.

00:09:02.000 They're watching everything you do.

00:09:04.000 And just to drive it home, there's another story on InfoWars.com.

00:09:08.000 Bloody Nanny State, they say. 0.96

00:09:10.000 This is in the UK.

00:09:11.000 Parents had their kids sent home and the parents were warned that their kids are running on the playground.

00:09:18.000 Can't have kids running on a playground.

00:09:19.000 As a matter of fact, we don't need the kids in the playground at all.

00:09:22.000 We just need to set them in front of a television set and pacify them so they'll be ready to be hooked up to the Matrix and they can just sit there and just generate heat, I guess. 0.99

00:09:34.000 Soylent green, whatever, kind of soylent green kind of form of electricity.

00:09:36.000 Anyway, from this story in the UK, she says, my son came home on Friday and they banned running on the playground.

00:09:44.000 I thought I was going to react too much too quickly because kids sometimes get it wrong.

00:09:49.000 But she says that what they told them was, well, you know, at first you really just need to kind of slow this down.

00:09:55.000 Then she says you should talk to them longer.

00:09:57.000 It transpired that they had had banned running altogether.

00:10:01.000 They're not allowed to play British Bulldog, whatever that is.

00:10:04.000 They're not allowed to play football.

00:10:07.000 And of course the school says, we are concerned for the safety of the children.

00:10:10.000 We need to stop this particular game until we can establish a safer way for them to play.

00:10:15.000 Some way that does not involve running.

00:10:18.000 Because running is just too dangerous in the 21st century.

00:10:22.000 We all need to be pacified.

00:10:24.000 We all need to be afraid of our shadows.

00:10:26.000 We need to be afraid we can't have automobiles.

00:10:29.000 We can't have guns.

00:10:30.000 We can't have running.

00:10:31.000 We can't have our children outside.

00:10:32.000 We can't have them playing in a playground.

00:10:35.000 And if you don't buy into the nanny state, we've got a police state we're going to shove down your throat. 0.91

00:10:40.000 And I guess that's one of the things, I look at the situation in Kenya, where 148 people were killed, 70, I guess it was 79 were initially wounded, there was 147 that were killed, I guess maybe now it's 148, 78, one of those people has died after that last tally.

00:10:59.000 In the Easter message, the Pope said that there is a complicit silence in this attack because it was focused on Christians.

00:11:09.000 They went in and they deliberately singled out Christians, this group, Al-Shabaab.

00:11:15.000 And, of course, that's true.

00:11:17.000 And we need to understand that we're not going to get sympathy from The press.

00:11:22.000 We're not going to get sympathy from the government.

00:11:25.000 We're not going to get protection from the government.

00:11:27.000 Something that underscores that is the Daily Mail.

00:11:32.000 They said the government came back, responded to the fact that it took them seven hours to arrive at the scene.

00:11:38.000 Interestingly, as they point out in the bullet points in the Daily Mail at the top here, said journalists arrived at the university before the troops did, and the troops flew in by air.

00:11:47.000 So the journalists can get there before the army can get there.

00:11:50.000 That's a great response time.

00:11:52.000 Seven hours.

00:11:53.000 But of course they defended themselves by using a football analogy and they said, well, you know, football meaning soccer to Americans, they say, you know, whenever you're fighting terrorism, it's kind of like being a goalie.

00:12:06.000 They only remember the ones that you missed.

00:12:09.000 Well, they missed this one by a mile.

00:12:12.000 And it was the same group, same country, al-Shabaab in Kenya, that had previously killed, it was I think 67 people in a mall, something like that.

00:12:21.000 And as Alex, when he talked about it last week, pointed out, because there was one guy with a gun who was a foreign national there, he stopped that earlier than it would have.

00:12:31.000 And of course, that went on for several days, that siege.

00:12:34.000 This went on for several hours, and it was only, I think, well, they got four guys, I think they're looking for another five suspects, so I don't know, maybe four to nine people that could kill that many people, injure that many people in that amount of time, because nobody there has any weapons to defend themselves.

00:12:51.000 That is one of the key things and of course we've had the fellow from Interpol pointed that out with the first attack in Kenya.

00:12:58.000 He said this wouldn't happen in Texas where people are armed.

00:13:01.000 It wouldn't go this long.

00:13:02.000 It wouldn't have gone for days or wouldn't have gone for seven hours without somebody being able to defend themselves.

00:13:08.000 When you read the accounts of this you had people said We didn't know where to go.

00:13:12.000 We were afraid.

00:13:13.000 We had to run.

00:13:14.000 Some of them ran at the gunmen, not knowing it.

00:13:16.000 Had to run past the gunmen to get out of there. 0.96

00:13:18.000 They were rounding Christians up, killing them.

00:13:22.000 So, what are we going to do?

00:13:24.000 Are we going to just depend on the government to take care of us?

00:13:27.000 Are we going to look, as Kenya did, to hiring more police who will protect us? 0.99

00:13:34.000 That's not the way it works out in the United States.

00:13:36.000 Certainly doesn't.

00:13:37.000 We see that Just in this election that's coming up tomorrow that I mentioned in the last break, there's an election in Chicago.

00:13:46.000 Rahm Emanuel has been forced into a runoff.

00:13:49.000 Nobody expected to see that coming.

00:13:51.000 But people are pretty fed up with the corruption in Chicago, with a lot of things in Chicago.

00:13:55.000 One of the things that they're most fed up with are the red light cameras.

00:13:59.000 This is an article from USA Today.

00:14:01.000 Red light cameras create red hot furor in Chicago.

00:14:04.000 They say Chicago has the most expansive use of red light cameras in the country and the public is furious.

00:14:10.000 They said nearly three out of four Chicagoans want a manual to eliminate or reduce the use of these red light cameras.

00:14:17.000 And, of course, his opponent is quick to pick up on this.

00:14:21.000 It's a Cook County Commissioner, Jesus Chuy Garcia, who is in the runoff with him.

00:14:26.000 And he calls it the red light ripoff.

00:14:29.000 And it is a ripoff.

00:14:31.000 He's made the issue a central part of his campaign to get elected.

00:14:36.000 I wish we could get people who would stand up and take down some of these things that are being used to oppress us everywhere.

00:14:44.000 And that's the way the police are being used.

00:14:47.000 Not just in Chicago.

00:14:47.000 I mean, they're not even using police for this.

00:14:50.000 What this illustrates is that, time and again, when they come after us and they say they're doing this for our safety, whether it's banning kids on the playground, or whether it's putting red light cameras to harass people to fine them, It's not about safety.

00:15:03.000 It's about their power.

00:15:05.000 And it's about their revenue.

00:15:07.000 We saw this happen in New York.

00:15:10.000 Eric Garner, and I think we need to spend time talking about the real cases like Eric Garner or homeless people who are killed by the police, not the Michael Brown case as we pointed out.

00:15:22.000 That case Was ambiguous at best to begin with.

00:15:26.000 It was infuriating, I think, to the people that they would leave his body in the street for many, many hours.

00:15:31.000 I think that's really the source of the anger.

00:15:33.000 But the actual event was pretty ambiguous.

00:15:36.000 And as they looked at it, it looked like there was a struggle for the gun.

00:15:39.000 It looked like he was going back to the officer.

00:15:42.000 We don't need to try to focus on that issue.

00:15:46.000 There's plenty of issues out there where there is unrestrained, unjustified, clearly, clearly unjustified, no question about it, attacks on individuals, homeless people, or in the case of Eric Garner, a man who was simply accused of not having paid a tax.

00:16:02.000 And he didn't believe that was the case that day.

00:16:05.000 Apparently, what he said was that he wasn't doing that today.

00:16:10.000 You're just busting me again.

00:16:12.000 And got into a verbal argument with him and they killed him for that.

00:16:16.000 And when the mayor did not stand behind the police on that, because that all boiled down to petty revenue concerns.

00:16:24.000 When they didn't stand on that, the police did a strike.

00:16:26.000 They said, we're not going to arrest or fine people unless it's absolutely necessary.

00:16:30.000 And guess what?

00:16:30.000 They admitted by their own actions that 95% of what they did Was not necessary.

00:16:35.000 It was just to get revenue.

00:16:36.000 And that's what we see happening in Chicago.

00:16:39.000 And it's not only that, but of course, it's always about the money.

00:16:42.000 And this red light camera situation also involves a bribery scandal.

00:16:47.000 Involving top city transportation officials and executives from the city's former red light camera vendor.

00:16:55.000 That's from USA Today.

00:16:57.000 One of the residents, Mark Wallace, says it's been exposed for what it really is.

00:17:02.000 And he's been hit with more than $1,000 in red light camera tickets.

00:17:05.000 He says it's nothing more than a way for the city of Chicago to create a slush fund that brings in a lot of revenue.

00:17:14.000 Well, red light cameras are just one way they do that.

00:17:17.000 Of course, the big way that they do it is with civil asset forfeiture.

00:17:21.000 They justified this back in the beginnings of the war on drugs, back in the 1970s, saying they're going to go after organized crime.

00:17:28.000 So we need to have RICO statutes that allow us to confiscate property before we've convicted anybody.

00:17:33.000 Because you know, these guys who are in organized crime, they've got such, so much money, they've got such great lawyers, we can't get a conviction.

00:17:40.000 The only way we're going to convict these guys, and we know they're all guilty, is to take all their money first.

00:17:45.000 And then when they've got a public defender, we can throw them in jail.

00:17:48.000 People said, fine, sure, yeah, let's get these guys in organized crime. 0.93

00:17:51.000 Let's get these terrorists.

00:17:52.000 Let's get these drug dealers. 1.00

00:17:53.000 Well, when you allow them to break the important fundamental principle that you don't confiscate property from people unless and until you have convicted them, once that's gone, there is no such thing as private property rights anymore in America.

00:18:11.000 And we're going to talk about that in detail.

00:18:13.000 Rand Paul looks like he's going to announce his candidacy tomorrow.

00:18:16.000 He had a great speech at, I think it was Bowie State University.

00:18:21.000 It's a predominantly black university.

00:18:24.000 It was covered on C-SPAN and he had some great things to say about civil asset forfeiture.

00:18:30.000 And of course, Rand Paul has also been moving towards the warmongering faction of the GOP troubles many of us who are very happy with what he said is libertarian.

00:18:41.000 I don't think you can make peace with these warmongers.

00:18:44.000 I don't think that they're going to necessarily fall for that.

00:18:48.000 I hope he hasn't changed.

00:18:49.000 But he has a lot of things that he has brought to the discussion and the national discussion that are very, very important.

00:18:56.000 So we're going to talk about civil asset forfeiture because it's more than just the presidential race.

00:19:01.000 This is something that is being fought at the state level.

00:19:04.000 There's more than 20 states that have bills before them to stop civil asset forfeiture.

00:19:11.000 And you need to understand what's behind that, how corrupt that is.

00:19:15.000 So we're going to talk about that in the next segment.

00:19:16.000 I want to continue on with some news here before we get to that.

00:19:20.000 We've got a Indianapolis gun store that is suing the ATF for keeping recovered firearms.

00:19:26.000 This is a guy in Indianapolis.

00:19:28.000 This is a handwritten complaint from a guy.

00:19:29.000 He doesn't have a lot of money.

00:19:30.000 He's also launched a GoFundMe campaign to raise $10,000 so he can fight this in court.

00:19:35.000 But here's what happened.

00:19:36.000 Andrew Hall, owner of Pro Fire Arms and Supplies, says of the BATF, We'll not return the firearms that they took from a robbery suspect.

00:19:46.000 This is a guy who specializes in machine guns and silencers and ammunition.

00:19:51.000 He was robbed and they got the merchandise from the guy who robbed him.

00:19:55.000 They refused to give it back and they're not even charging that guy for the theft because they're the thieves.

00:20:00.000 And we're going to talk about civil asset forfeiture when we come back.

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00:24:19.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:24:25.000 I'm David Knight.

00:24:26.000 I'll be your host today.

00:24:26.000 We're going to be talking to Paul Joseph Watson in the second hour.

00:24:30.000 One of the stories that he's got up on InfoWars is a top cop says that insulting someone on Facebook You can get arrested.

00:24:39.000 Now this is, the top cop is the person who is head of the Virginia Fraternal Order of Police.

00:24:46.000 And this is the second time we've seen something like this in Virginia.

00:24:50.000 This is a 26-year-old, Kristen Holmes, got into a Facebook argument with someone who didn't know who she was, has a mistaken identity, so she posted an image of herself.

00:24:59.000 Pointing a gun at the camera, along with the words, I'll post a few actual pics of me so you know the difference when you come to find me.

00:25:05.000 And she says it wasn't a threat.

00:25:08.000 She says it was just a funny picture.

00:25:09.000 She said, what happened to freedom of speech?

00:25:11.000 Well, I'll tell you what happened to freedom of speech.

00:25:14.000 We have a nanny state and they did not back down. 0.94

00:25:18.000 Now they're looking at putting her in jail up to one year in prison and or a $2,500 fine, a class one misdemeanor. 0.73

00:25:26.000 They said, I'm not sure what the crime is.

00:25:29.000 I don't see here.

00:25:29.000 Nevertheless, it's a class one misdemeanor.

00:25:32.000 The top cop at the Virginia Fraternal Order of Police says free speech doesn't say you have the right to insult somebody.

00:25:38.000 Wow.

00:25:40.000 You can't insult people on Facebook or YouTube.

00:25:43.000 There's going to be a lot of people going to jail.

00:25:44.000 We might be able to fill the jails up even faster than we do with the war on drugs.

00:25:48.000 Hey, I think they found a new way to push the prison industrial complex.

00:25:54.000 Of course, they point out the other time this happened was something like this is very egregious, even more so.

00:25:59.000 Was, in 2012, we had Brandon Robb, if you remember, he was an Iraq-Afghanistan vet, and he was posting on Facebook stories that questioned, he was questioning the official story of 9-11, and talking about corruption in the U.S.

00:26:14.000 government.

00:26:15.000 They might have been talking about how the FBI is running all of these terrorist attacks, pretty much.

00:26:20.000 Either they know that they're going to happen and allow them to happen, or in many cases, as Judge Napolitano has pointed out, They will actually facilitate it.

00:26:28.000 They'll find some patsy, they'll move with them, train them, give them transportation if they don't have it.

00:26:34.000 We just saw that happen.

00:26:36.000 Everything that they need in order to carry out a terrorist attack so they can stop it at the last minute and portray themselves as heroes.

00:26:41.000 So he said the FBI was terrorist in nature.

00:26:44.000 What they did was they picked him up and put him in a psychiatric ward because he said that on Facebook.

00:26:51.000 Now, as I pointed out earlier, we have this story that's up on Infowars.com.

00:26:54.000 Truly amazing story.

00:26:56.000 The nanny state in England, where you've got schools banning running on the playground.

00:27:01.000 Can't play football, can't do any of this stuff because, you know, running is really, really dangerous.

00:27:07.000 And as I said, what they really want to do is just lock our kids down and keep them inside.

00:27:14.000 And, you know, that's... None of us get outside enough.

00:27:17.000 And that's one of the things, when I look at this, it's like, man, I used to be able to go anywhere I wanted to after school.

00:27:24.000 I would have like three or four hours.

00:27:25.000 I could ride my bike, do anything I wanted to when I was a kid.

00:27:28.000 Not today.

00:27:29.000 Not today.

00:27:30.000 You're going to go sit inside and watch television or maybe get on Facebook so they can start building a dossier on you and start profiling you socially to see if you are a threat to the government.

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00:28:31.000 Now, they're getting a lot of sun, however, in California.

00:28:35.000 Governor Gary Brown is now telling Californians that they're going to be heavily fined if they take long showers.

00:28:42.000 You know, California already reeks of socialism, as my son Lance said when he saw this, and I think it's going to get a lot worse.

00:28:49.000 Yet another thing that they can come after people for.

00:28:53.000 And interestingly enough, of course, it's not just the socialists, and yes, they do have a water problem there, and there's a lot of things we could talk about that's behind that.

00:29:01.000 That it is evidence of global warming, as Jerry Brown is trying to make the case for that.

00:29:07.000 We've seen, if you just want to objectively look at the temperatures, and not do it from airport tarmacs, but do it from a satellite, you will see that their models are not working.

00:29:17.000 Their models are not, the increases in CO2 are not producing the kinds of increases in temperature that they said that we would see.

00:29:25.000 That is not happening.

00:29:26.000 Nevertheless, they're going to find some way to get money out of people.

00:29:32.000 When we come back, I want to spend some time talking about civil asset forfeiture.

00:29:36.000 And I'm going to play some clips of what Rand Paul had to say about this, because he really hits the nail on the head.

00:29:43.000 We'll be right back after the break.

00:29:43.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:07.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government cover-ups.

00:33:24.000 You want answers?

00:33:26.000 Well, so does he.

00:33:27.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:31.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:40.000 I'm David Knight, your host.

00:33:41.000 We're going to be joined in the next hour by Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

00:33:44.000 I was just talking about the last segment.

00:33:46.000 He's got an article up about a cop in Virginia, actually the head of the Fraternal Order of Police in Virginia, saying, hey, yeah, we can arrest you if we don't like what you post on Facebook.

00:33:57.000 We had an article earlier this weekend.

00:34:00.000 Feinstein demands internet censorship after the FBI uncovers its own bomb plot.

00:34:06.000 As I said, they locked up Brandon Robb in 2012 because they said that he had referred to the FBI as a terrorist organization.

00:34:14.000 Of course, they have been involved.

00:34:15.000 And virtually every terrorist threat that has happened here, either running it or letting it run so they can make themselves heroes.

00:34:23.000 Now they're doing it in terms of finding some literature and arresting somebody there.

00:34:28.000 As Kit Daniels points out, after the FBI uncovered another one of its self-orchestrated terror plots leading to the arrest of two women, Senator Feinstein demanded online censorship of extremist literature.

00:34:40.000 Well, right now the way they're defining that is the Anarchist Cookbook, which has been around for a very long time, as well as a publication from Al-Qaeda.

00:34:49.000 And as people are pointing out, this is what you have in China.

00:34:52.000 But of course, our government wants what the Chinese people have. 1.00

00:34:56.000 It was George Bush that said, well, I wish...

00:34:59.000 We wish we could do things like we do in China.

00:35:00.000 That's easy, you know, when you can just throw people in jail.

00:35:04.000 They point out, and this is a quote from the Dean of Journalism at the University of Maryland, Lucy Dalgleish.

00:35:09.000 She says that this is a blatant violation of the First Amendment to demand that they're going to take these things down.

00:35:17.000 As a person with TechDirt wrote, Mike Masnick said, the anarchist cookbook is very much protected by the First Amendment, whether you like it or not.

00:35:25.000 While the book is banned in other countries who don't have the equivalent of the First Amendment, it is perfectly legal in the U.S.

00:35:33.000 But of course, we only get to keep our rights if we understand what those rights are, if we understand how they're being taken away.

00:35:39.000 Many people just refuse to believe that our government could do the kinds of things that it's doing.

00:35:46.000 One of those stories is something I saw on WorldNetDaily about a female attorney who was strapped up in court.

00:35:53.000 Listen to this story.

00:35:54.000 This is a divorce lawyer.

00:35:56.000 She was detained, a lawyer, who was detained and forced to represent her client, restrained in a wheelchair, and tortured with sexual humiliation, sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation, without being charged.

00:36:10.000 This is a new civil rights lawsuit.

00:36:12.000 This is in Minnesota.

00:36:14.000 Now, the interesting thing about this is that she had asked the judge in this divorce case to recuse himself.

00:36:20.000 And he refused to do that.

00:36:22.000 That apparently created some kind of a conflict to them.

00:36:25.000 But this is what I thought was interesting, beyond the details of the case.

00:36:30.000 When she talked to the lawyers, she got a couple lawyers representing her, one of them is Nathan Bush, and he said that the claim was so extreme that initially he didn't believe her.

00:36:39.000 See, that's the problem.

00:36:41.000 The tyranny, the abuse of justice, whether it's by the police or whether it's by our judges, is so over the top, has gotten so bad so quickly, people simply refuse to believe that it's an issue.

00:36:56.000 And that's the key thing we're going to talk about with civil asset forfeiture.

00:37:00.000 Most of you won't believe that this could really happen in America.

00:37:04.000 But going back to this case, he says, this is the first time I'd heard of such a case like this, said her attorney.

00:37:08.000 This is the United States.

00:37:10.000 Things like this don't happen here.

00:37:13.000 But then he goes on to say, she's not lying.

00:37:15.000 The woman is telling the truth.

00:37:18.000 Yeah, unfortunately she is, and unfortunately this is the kind of country that we're starting to live in. 0.97

00:37:24.000 Now, I want to talk to you about what's going on in the war on private property, especially because some of the people who are pushing this the hardest are the ones who ought to know better.

00:37:33.000 Republicans.

00:37:34.000 Now, the Republican base understands and values property rights as much as anything.

00:37:42.000 Perhaps more than they value many other rights.

00:37:45.000 We all understand that.

00:37:46.000 They're all about property rights.

00:37:47.000 Not so much the Republicans at the top, though.

00:37:51.000 And they are using the war on drugs and they're using other things like terrorism, whatever.

00:37:56.000 They're using these things and using the conflict that these mainstream Republicans, these grassroots Republicans have.

00:38:04.000 This conflict that they have between supporting law enforcement reflexively, saluting it no matter what it does, no matter how abusive it is.

00:38:11.000 And yet, taking away their property rights at the same time.

00:38:16.000 See, I don't use drugs.

00:38:18.000 I've never used drugs.

00:38:20.000 I got into this war on drugs thing, made me angry about it because I could see what was happening 20 years ago with property.

00:38:27.000 I could see what was happening with the abuse and the destruction of the justice system.

00:38:32.000 I could see that they were sending people to jail, ruining their lives, and then sending me the bill to pay to keep them incarcerated.

00:38:41.000 So long before I got involved with, had any compassion for the people as a Republican in the early days, I was still concerned about the money that was being wasted.

00:38:51.000 So maybe this will appeal to you from that standpoint, okay?

00:38:54.000 And then maybe you can get some compassion for what the people are going through.

00:38:58.000 Maybe you can understand that this is headed your way as well.

00:39:01.000 Just as Pastor Martin Niemöller said about what was going on in Nazi Germany.

00:39:05.000 First they came for that group.

00:39:06.000 I did nothing because I wasn't a part of that group.

00:39:08.000 And then another, then another, and I wasn't a part of those groups.

00:39:10.000 Then they came for me, and there was no one to help me because I hadn't helped anyone when they were coming after them.

00:39:16.000 Now, here's the issue in a nutshell.

00:39:19.000 This is something that's put up by the Institute of Justice.

00:39:22.000 And, of course, the Institute of Justice and the ACLU on the right.

00:39:26.000 And on the left we've got groups that understand how fundamentally destructive civil asset forfeiture is.

00:39:32.000 They've come out talking about this.

00:39:33.000 So you've got people on both the left and right.

00:39:35.000 Let me break this down for you.

00:39:36.000 They point out here, just in talking about Philadelphia, just as one case, They say the most terrifying place in Philadelphia is courtroom 478 in City Hall.

00:39:46.000 This is where property owners enter Philadelphia's civil forfeiture machine.

00:39:51.000 It's a little-known legal device that allows law enforcement officials to take your property, sell it, and pocket the proceeds, even if you've done nothing wrong.

00:39:59.000 And to give you an example, they have what their take has been in Philadelphia from 2002 to 2010, 10 years.

00:40:04.000 $64 million in forfeiture.

00:40:09.000 About six million, six and a half million a year.

00:40:12.000 They say the district attorney's office used over $25 million of that $64 million to pay salaries.

00:40:18.000 See, there's a conflict, a basic conflict of interest.

00:40:22.000 And I want you to hear what Rand Paul said when he talked to Bowie State University and started explaining to them civil asset forfeiture.

00:40:29.000 Here's a clip from that.

00:40:32.000 One of the laws that bothers me the most is something called civil forfeiture.

00:40:37.000 Civil forfeiture is where the government can take your stuff, whether they've convicted you of a crime or not.

00:40:43.000 I think this turns justice on its head.

00:40:46.000 So I think that most of our judicial system, for most of who believe in it, is that you're innocent until proven guilty.

00:40:54.000 Civil forfeiture does the opposite.

00:40:59.000 But a novel idea is in the Constitution.

00:41:01.000 And if there's one thing I can change, I want to reinforce that in our judicial system, you are innocent until proven guilty.

00:41:09.000 The problem is, is it was civil forfeiture, it's the opposite.

00:41:13.000 So I'll give you a couple of examples.

00:41:15.000 Christos Sorvelos is a family in Philadelphia.

00:41:20.000 Their teenage son sold $40 worth of illegal drugs off the back porch.

00:41:25.000 The government took their house, evicted them, and barricaded them.

00:41:29.000 It was like, how are we making anything better when we take the house?

00:41:33.000 Maybe the house is a stabilizing force in the family.

00:41:36.000 Maybe it's grandma's house and the kid's 15 years old.

00:41:38.000 Why would we take grandma's house?

00:41:40.000 Why would we take the family's house based on not even a conviction on an accusation of the child who doesn't own the house?

00:41:50.000 It's way out of control.

00:41:51.000 And it's happening in various venues.

00:41:54.000 But if you look at it, the Washington Post has done a great series on this over the last six months or so.

00:42:00.000 It's predominantly African American, it's predominantly Hispanic, or if you want to see one common denominator, it's predominantly people who live in poverty.

00:42:09.000 It's unfair and it ought to stop.

00:42:12.000 I think we can stop it.

00:42:14.000 This is something that the President and I completely agree on.

00:42:17.000 So we have legislation that would change it.

00:42:19.000 It changes the presumption.

00:42:21.000 It says that you will be innocent until they prove you guilty and they cannot take your stuff unless you've been proven guilty.

00:42:27.000 I'll give you an example of some of the things in civil forfeiture that we've had a problem with.

00:42:32.000 In civil forfeiture they took a 1.5 million dollar motel in New Jersey.

00:42:39.000 Why?

00:42:40.000 Because about 10 people had stayed there over 14 years who had been caught selling drugs.

00:42:46.000 10 people out of 200,000 people and they took the hotel.

00:42:51.000 When they look at it, there's a program where the people who take your stuff get to keep it.

00:42:56.000 And they get to keep the proceeds.

00:42:57.000 So there's a perverse incentive for the government to want to take your stuff.

00:43:02.000 Interestingly, about the same amount of people caught for drugs in other hotels in the same area, but they didn't take them because they had liens against the hotel.

00:43:10.000 This hotel happened to be paid for.

00:43:12.000 So the government actually looks for things that they can confiscate that are already paid for.

00:43:18.000 Very important to understand the profit motive in this.

00:43:23.000 Just as they pointed out in Philadelphia, they're paying about $25 million towards the district attorney's staff salary out of what they have stolen.

00:43:34.000 And so, there's a lot of efforts to try to push back against this.

00:43:37.000 Now, Rand Paul has worked with some Democrats in terms of trying to stop this.

00:43:44.000 Understand that this is a violation of pretty much every one of the Bill of Rights.

00:43:48.000 It really is.

00:43:50.000 It doesn't violate the First Amendment, it doesn't violate the Second Amendment, and it doesn't have anything to do with quartering troops.

00:43:55.000 But if you go through the rest of the amendments in terms of search and seizure, in terms of excessive fines, in terms of due process, in terms of having a trial by jury, in terms of rights that are reserved to the people that are not turned over to the state, it's pretty much four through ten that they violate with civil asset forfeiture.

00:44:15.000 So, there's a push that is being led essentially by Rand Paul and a couple of others to try to say, we're going to establish this novel idea for the 21st century, one that we understood for the last 6, 7, 800 years, the idea of innocent until proven guilty.

00:44:34.000 The idea that you have a day in court.

00:44:35.000 The idea that you don't have your property taken unless you are found guilty.

00:44:41.000 The idea that you're not going to be hit with disproportionately high penalties.

00:44:46.000 And then, of course, the idea that the government itself can't act as robbers.

00:44:52.000 Now, that particular case he's talking about, that involved Carmen Ortiz, who's the federal district attorney in that area, New Jersey, Massachusetts.

00:45:01.000 She was also involved in the Aaron Schwartz case.

00:45:04.000 And between that and that case at the hotel where they took that hotel, tried to take that hotel, because 15, over 15 years, 14 people had been involved in drug arrests there.

00:45:16.000 They said, and everybody knows, and this is how it works, there was nothing that involved anybody that had an ownership in the hotel, and they singled out that hotel, as Rand Paul pointed out, because it was owned free and clear.

00:45:28.000 This is simply the government going through and looking for property that they can steal.

00:45:35.000 It's gonna stop.

00:45:36.000 And it's going to stop, though, I think, at the state level.

00:45:39.000 Because when you look at what's going on with the feds, other than Rand Paul and a couple of other people, they're all down with this.

00:45:45.000 They like this a lot.

00:45:47.000 This gives them a lot of power, a lot of money.

00:45:49.000 The federal attorneys like it.

00:45:50.000 The congressmen and the senators, for the most part, like it.

00:45:54.000 And we're going to find out that the governors, for the most part, like it as well.

00:45:58.000 New Mexico.

00:45:59.000 We've got both parties.

00:46:00.000 I mentioned that the ACLU, as well as the Institute of Justice, left and right.

00:46:06.000 Legal representation, they both understand how fundamentally destructive this is of our rights, and they've come out against it.

00:46:13.000 We have the same thing happening in New Mexico.

00:46:15.000 Look at this.

00:46:16.000 The New Mexico legislature unanimously passed a landmark bill to limit civil asset forfeiture.

00:46:21.000 Now, understand that in New Mexico, I think it's, I don't remember if it's the Senate or the House, one of them is predominantly Democrat, the other one is predominantly Republican.

00:46:32.000 But they both said unanimously they want to get rid of civil asset forfeiture.

00:46:37.000 And they're going to do things like make sure that you gotta have a criminal conviction before property could be forfeited.

00:46:43.000 Once the conviction is won, the state would have to prove that the property is directly traceable to and instrumental in committing the crime.

00:46:50.000 You're not going to be able to just charge the Learjet with having transported somebody who was doing a drug deal, or charge the hotel because somebody was there doing a drug deal, and not charge the owner of the hotel, not charge the owner of the plane.

00:47:04.000 They would have to prove by clear and convincing evidence that an owner had actual knowledge that the property was going to be used to commit the crime.

00:47:11.000 And they would also make sure that when the money, when there was actually a forfeiture after a conviction, after they go through a due process, that that money would not be turned over to the cops.

00:47:22.000 It would not incentivize them to steal people's money.

00:47:25.000 It would not be turned over to the local district attorney.

00:47:27.000 No, it would go to the state general fund.

00:47:30.000 So you take out that conflict of interest.

00:47:32.000 And of course, they're not the only state.

00:47:34.000 New Mexico isn't.

00:47:35.000 We had Minnesota pass a forfeiture law last year.

00:47:38.000 Maryland House of Delegates voted to do the same.

00:47:41.000 We have 20 states that are looking at it this year.

00:47:43.000 Now here's the situation in New Mexico.

00:47:45.000 As I pointed out, Democrats and Republicans unanimously in the legislature said we want to stop this.

00:47:50.000 We want to get back to living in a country where we have a rule of law instead of theft by law enforcement.

00:47:59.000 But the governor there, the Republican governor, Susana Martinez, has been sitting on this now for a couple of weeks.

00:48:04.000 As FreedomWorks points out, the window to protect the private property in New Mexico is rapidly closing.

00:48:10.000 It's been two weeks since they did this bill.

00:48:13.000 By April the 9th, which is this week, it's, what is that, Thursday?

00:48:17.000 I think it's Thursday.

00:48:19.000 If she doesn't sign this bill or veto it by the 9th, she'll get a pocket veto. 0.98

00:48:23.000 It'll just automatically be vetoed on April the 10th.

00:48:26.000 Now, to understand where this is coming from, we need to understand that her chief of staff, who really didn't have anything to say about it, is a former prosecutor.

00:48:39.000 As is the governor of Wyoming who vetoed a similar bill that was passed by the legislature there to stop asset forfeiture.

00:48:47.000 He is a former federal attorney for the area.

00:48:51.000 So this is a guy who was a Fed.

00:48:54.000 And let me also point out that these guys who are governors, these Republican governors who want to continue this lawlessness, who want to continue to stand behind destruction of private property rights, and let me tell you, there is nothing that is more destructive of private property rights than if the police can, with any pretext, come and confiscate your property.

00:49:14.000 As Rand Paul pointed out, he had a guy, a kid, teenage kid, selling drugs to an undercover agent on the back porch of their house, a $40 drug deal.

00:49:22.000 For that, they took the parents home.

00:49:28.000 Not pretending that the parents had any knowledge of this or that they had any involvement in this whatsoever.

00:49:34.000 Not getting a conviction.

00:49:35.000 Just taking their home.

00:49:36.000 But of course it's been worse than that.

00:49:37.000 In some cases, they've confiscated cars because a teenage son was in a car with a bunch of other teenagers and they found a joint on one of the other teenagers.

00:49:48.000 Take the entire car.

00:49:50.000 See, that's the kind of jeopardy you're going to live in if you allow them to do this.

00:49:54.000 And most of the justification is on the war of drugs, but not entirely.

00:49:58.000 This is what the governor, the Republican governor who vetoed it in Wyoming said, the former federal prosecutor.

00:50:04.000 He says, I think civil asset forfeiture is a legitimate tool to help in the areas not limited to, not limited to, but particularly with drug crimes.

00:50:12.000 See, they use the war on drugs to destroy our legal system, but it is not limited to that.

00:50:18.000 They're going to branch it out as they have all of this stuff.

00:50:20.000 So it's not limited to that area.

00:50:22.000 And it was really pretty amazing what he had to say about this.

00:50:26.000 He said, those who speak out against civil forfeiture, this is a Wyoming governor, Governor Meade, a Republican.

00:50:32.000 He said, those who speak out against civil forfeiture have combed Wyoming's forfeiture files, have analyzed many hundreds of cases, but they haven't found one egregious case or an abuse of individual rights in a 40-year history.

00:50:45.000 Well, as Rand Paul also said at Bowie State, When he talked about Obama using the indefinite detention, he says, I'm not saying that he's a bad guy.

00:50:52.000 I'm just saying we don't want to have a system of government that requires a good person to run it.

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00:54:28.000 We're going to be joined with Paul Joseph Watson in the next hour, before we get back to the news.

00:54:34.000 And I want to let you know where the fight against civil asset forfeiture is in the states, because I think that's where it's going to be won.

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00:55:12.000 Now as I was pointing out in the last segment, we have a civil asset forfeiture law, very strong law, in New Mexico, passed unanimously by both the House and the Senate, by both Democrats and Republicans.

00:55:24.000 One is controlled by one party, the other one is controlled by another party.

00:55:27.000 But the Republican governor, Susana Martinez, looks like she's going to exercise a pocket veto on this. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Hopefully they can override that.

00:55:34.000 And so you need to, if you live in New Mexico, do something about it.

00:55:38.000 But there are 20 states where this is in play.

00:55:42.000 And you need to be aware of what's going on.

00:55:43.000 This attacks all of our fundamental liberties, not just our private property rights.

00:55:48.000 It attacks our right to due process.

00:55:50.000 If they can do it with this, they can do it with anything.

00:55:52.000 And of course, they are doing it across the board because we didn't stop them in this insane war on drugs way back.

00:55:59.000 And I want to read you what Governor Meade said when he vetoed the Wyoming legislature's reform of civil asset forfeiture.

00:56:09.000 Re-establishing our constitutional rights to due process.

00:56:12.000 He said civil asset forfeiture is important and it is a right.

00:56:19.000 He said the government has a right to take your property without you being convicted of a crime, without you even being charged with a crime, and there is no limit to how much they can take.

00:56:30.000 Just like we pointed out, they want to take the family's home because the son made a $40 drug deal on the back porch.

00:56:38.000 That's a violation of having a proportional, excessive fines and penalties and punishments.

00:56:45.000 So you need to understand that this Republican governor, and governors just like, I think it highlights what's going on, why we can't really put all of our hope on getting things fixed in Washington.

00:56:56.000 I actually put no hope on getting things fixed in Washington.

00:56:59.000 I think the place has become a cesspool. 0.92

00:57:00.000 I think it's corrupt.

00:57:01.000 And I think evidence of it is the fact that you can have somebody who is a former federal attorney With regional responsibilities, become a Republican governor and say something like this.

00:57:10.000 It's civil asset forfeiture.

00:57:12.000 Law enforcement taking your property without charging you with anything, without convicting you of anything, is a right.

00:57:17.000 And it's very important for them because he says crime should not pay.

00:57:21.000 And that's why we're trying to stop civil asset forfeiture because crime does pay.

00:57:25.000 It pays for the government to steal your property.

00:57:27.000 They get away with it.

00:57:28.000 They get to keep it for their own personal use.

00:57:30.000 They violate every one of the Bill of Rights except for the first three in this process.

00:57:36.000 This guy ought to be impeached.

00:57:38.000 He ought to be disbarred.

00:57:39.000 He's disqualified for being a governor.

00:57:41.000 And I tell you what, any of these people who do it, and you've got 50 governors, this is a more elite club than being a senator.

00:57:46.000 You've got 100 senators.

00:57:47.000 You've got 50 governors.

00:57:49.000 These people are thoroughly co-opted.

00:57:51.000 If they play the cards right, they can become a senator.

00:57:53.000 They can hang out for life, profiting from graft and corruption in this cesspool we call Washington, D.C.

00:57:59.000 But we got some good people at the state level.

00:58:02.000 One of them, in Texas, we've got David Simpson, who is always, always there.

00:58:08.000 This is a guy, David Simpson, from Longview, Texas, Republican.

00:58:12.000 He's the guy who fought two times to stop the TSA.

00:58:15.000 He's the guy we just talked to him a couple of weeks ago because he wants to remove marijuana from the Texas statutes completely.

00:58:21.000 And now he's back trying to stop the government from stealing your property without convicting you of anything.

00:58:28.000 What a novel idea.

00:58:29.000 What if we actually had a government that followed the law?

00:58:35.000 That's a novel idea, isn't it?

00:58:36.000 What if they actually followed the Constitution that they'd taken oath to?

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01:00:34.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

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01:00:36.000 We're going to be talking to Paul Joseph Watson, beginning in the next segment.

01:00:40.000 I want to continue a little bit about civil asset forfeiture, where these guys are hanging out.

01:00:45.000 We talked about what's going on at the state level.

01:00:47.000 As I pointed out, I don't think that we're going to see any reform at the federal level, and let me tell you why.

01:00:53.000 They know that this is starting to hit the public airwaves.

01:00:58.000 They know that people are starting to pay attention to this outrage they call civil asset forfeiture.

01:01:02.000 They've been doing this for over 20 years.

01:01:05.000 But people are starting to pay attention now.

01:01:07.000 So you got people like Eric Holder saying, well, you know, we're going to do something about this.

01:01:10.000 And understand that this is also, we see this manifested in many different ways.

01:01:15.000 It's also the war on cash, where they don't want anybody having cash, where they accuse you of structuring your deposits, where they accuse you of having suspicious activity if you take $5,000 in cash out of the bank after having already scrutinized every penny that you put in and reporting suspicious activity if you put in large amounts.

01:01:33.000 They report it when you take it out.

01:01:35.000 I guess that way they can alert the NSA to start watching your movements more carefully since they can't follow every transaction that you do with a credit card.

01:01:43.000 You might be paying cash, so let's watch this guy really carefully.

01:01:46.000 That's the kind of paranoid police state that we're living in now.

01:01:49.000 But of course, Eric Holder has heard your concerns and he's going to do something to rein this in.

01:01:55.000 Listen to this new policy that they have.

01:01:57.000 In the absence of criminal charges, Judicially authorized warrants to seize bank accounts involved in structuring can only be obtained if the prosecutor first develops probable cause of federal criminal activity, and that determination is approved by a supervisor.

01:02:14.000 What's going on with that?

01:02:16.000 I mean, you're telling me that you don't have to convict anybody before you take their cash.

01:02:20.000 You don't have to go to a judge.

01:02:23.000 You don't have to get a search warrant.

01:02:25.000 You don't have to get a guilty verdict.

01:02:27.000 You just have to say, well, I've got probable cause.

01:02:31.000 They've got probable cause for everything!

01:02:34.000 Everything is probable cause.

01:02:36.000 And all they have to do is get their supervisor, who is going to profit from the money that they confiscate, who's going to profit from the cars that they confiscate.

01:02:46.000 And again, this is not just the war on drugs.

01:02:49.000 This is structuring, this is suspicious activity reports.

01:02:53.000 It all began with the war on drugs, but it's metastasized way beyond that.

01:02:56.000 They can take your cash, they can take your property, they can take anything.

01:03:00.000 All they have to do is get approval from a supervisor.

01:03:03.000 That's the test anymore.

01:03:04.000 And of course we have Rand Paul's FAIR Act that would take that down.

01:03:08.000 Rand Paul, as I played in the last hour, I played what he said at Bowie State, he really, sincerely understands what the problem is.

01:03:17.000 And he's going to probably announce tomorrow that he's going to be running for president.

01:03:22.000 Articles up on the Drudge Report, Washington Post, Rand Paul seems to stray from his libertarian roots as he courts a GOP base.

01:03:28.000 Yes, of course, a lot of us are concerned about the overtures that he's making to the warmongers within the Republican Party.

01:03:35.000 I think he needs to transcend it.

01:03:36.000 Of course, you can't.

01:03:37.000 The problem is you can't get the nomination without having that warmongering, or at least some of the warmongering vote.

01:03:44.000 But that's the sad state of two-party politics.

01:03:48.000 And, of course, they make sure that we only have two parties that we can choose from.

01:03:52.000 That's how they control us.

01:03:53.000 That's how they appear to give us a false choice.

01:03:56.000 But, of course, they say that on both national security and on cultural fronts.

01:04:00.000 In other words, because he's come out and said that he stands with Christians on religious persecution, that that has alienated his base.

01:04:08.000 Well, I don't think that it has alienated his base that much.

01:04:11.000 Perhaps the national security thing, the real thing that is going to tell us where Rand Paul and any of these other people stand is going to be the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Transatlantic Partnerships, those trade agreements that are not trade agreements.

01:04:24.000 They are sovereignty destroying agreements being negotiated in secret.

01:04:30.000 Public is not allowed to see it.

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01:04:33.000 They're fast tracking it through.

01:04:35.000 They're going to push this multi thousand page legislation through without any modification or oversight.

01:04:41.000 That's where we need to look out.

01:04:43.000 That's where we need to be careful.

01:04:44.000 And of course, you've got Jeb Bush waiting in the wing.

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01:04:52.000 Not much of a choice, is it?

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01:08:25.000 On this Monday, April 6, 2015, we're going to be talking to Paul Joseph Watson.

01:08:30.000 We're going to talk to him about this Rolling Stone rape case and the implications that it has for journalism.

01:08:30.000 We've got him on the line from the UK.

01:08:38.000 And before we get to that, I want to get a quick comment from him on this story that's up on Infowars.com today.

01:08:43.000 Top cop in Virginia says, insulting someone on Facebook Can get you arrested.

01:08:48.000 We've got a lady who is facing up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine for a picture that she posted on Facebook. 1.00

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01:09:54.000 Paul, thank you for joining us.

01:09:56.000 Good to be back, David.

01:09:58.000 Now, I want to talk to you before we get to the situation that's going on with Rolling Stone and UVA.

01:10:05.000 This situation on Facebook about insulting somebody and getting arrested.

01:10:10.000 Give us your comments on that.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, this was a woman who got into an argument with somebody on Facebook.

01:10:16.000 It was actually a case of mistaken identity.

01:10:18.000 So, you know, the argument got heated.

01:10:21.000 This one woman responded with an image of herself, you know, a selfie with a gun and basically said, this is what I actually look like if you want to come and get me. 0.98

01:10:30.000 Obviously it was a dumb comment to make, but they responded by arresting her and now she faces a misdemeanor, several months jail time if convicted, or a $2,500 fine. 0.96

01:10:41.000 Now the issue was not Whether this was a dumb comment, it obviously was, whether it required her to be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor, that sounds patently ridiculous. 0.89

01:10:53.000 But what's most chilling about this story is the comments made by this police representative in Virginia who told the New York Daily News, quote, free speech doesn't say you have the right to insult anybody. 0.88

01:11:07.000 And then he also said that swearing on Facebook, social media or the internet was the same as disorderly conduct in public.

01:11:16.000 So he was basically making the case that swearing on Facebook or insulting somebody on Facebook was a crime that should lead to arrest.

01:11:25.000 I think that's going to shut down Google if they put that out.

01:11:28.000 I mean, the comments on Google.

01:11:30.000 Google is one of the most ruthless and rude places for comments I've ever seen in my life.

01:11:35.000 Far worse than Facebook. 0.98

01:11:36.000 So, I mean, there goes YouTube if we were to allow something that silly.

01:11:41.000 Well yeah, obviously they could never enforce such a ridiculous law because this is not about enforcement, it's about creating that chilling effect where you're afraid to say anything on social media.

01:11:53.000 I mean we've had cases even in the UK the past couple of months Where, for example, a journalist made a joke about somebody who raised a Pakistani flag above a town in England and he called the police on her for inciting racial hatred.

01:12:07.000 So there have actually been police investigations on, you know, politically incorrect speech.

01:12:13.000 But then in America, You have several cases over the past couple of years where it's basically teenagers making dumb comments, sarcastic comments and jokes, which they could never properly mean.

01:12:26.000 For example, there was a rapper, an 18-year-old rapper, I believe he was, Cameron D'Ambrosio, who basically posted some rap lyrics on Facebook, which could be seen as violent.

01:12:36.000 He was arrested.

01:12:38.000 There was an 18-year-old woman who was sent to jail after, quote, lolling about a hit and run and a DUI on Facebook.

01:12:45.000 So it's basically distasteful comments that get flagged, get reported to police. 0.99

01:12:50.000 And instead of ignoring them and focusing on real crimes, they actually go after these dumb teenagers who make stupid comments on Facebook and arrest them, and in some cases charge them. 0.98

01:13:01.000 Yeah, as you pointed out in the subtitle, the cop said there's no such thing as a petty crime. 0.99

01:13:06.000 I think, Paul, one of the best things that we have in terms of shutting this kind of over-the-top nonsense down, because it's not going to be shut down by our elected officials, certainly not in Washington.

01:13:17.000 I don't know that we can really count on too many, even at the state level.

01:13:20.000 I think we need to have juries.

01:13:22.000 We need to have fully informed juries who are going to say, alright, so yeah, she did harassment by computer, but you're going to send her to jail for a year and fine her $2,500? 0.76

01:13:32.000 No, not guilty.

01:13:35.000 And just shut that kind of stuff down.

01:13:37.000 That happened during alcohol prohibition.

01:13:39.000 That is the purpose of the juries, to ultimately stand against intrusive and unconstitutional, unreasonable punishments, unconstitutional laws at both the state and the federal level.

01:13:39.000 It's happened in the past.

01:13:51.000 I think that's really about the only way that we're ever going to have protection from this, because it just gets more and more absurd.

01:13:58.000 That would be a sensible step, but it's not one that they're taking.

01:14:02.000 I remember Brandon Raub a couple of years ago, the veteran, he made some comments on Facebook which were in the context of the Illuminati card game and other games that he was playing, I believe it was with his brother, which could be taken as violent if you applied them politically, even though the context wasn't political.

01:14:20.000 He was literally abducted by FBI, police and Secret Service, detained in a psychiatric facility for a week.

01:14:28.000 Nobody really knew where he even was for a week.

01:14:31.000 He finally got released, but again, that was perhaps the most egregious example of how comments taken out of context by law enforcement authorities are treated as terrorist threats, and then people are arrested.

01:14:44.000 I mean, there was a case in Britain where somebody made a joke about bombing, as in, you know, the sense of bombing having fun.

01:14:52.000 Um, in relation to a flight, and they got thrown in jail for 10 years.

01:14:56.000 Well, let's not forget, uh, let's not forget the case of Barrett Brown.

01:15:00.000 You and I and Joe Biggs all talked to Barrett Brown from prison, and of course Julian Assange says social media has all of your friends wearing a wire.

01:15:09.000 And the perfect example of the government taking something out of context and completely twisting it was in the conviction of Barrett Brown, where they said that he was threatening an FBI agent.

01:15:20.000 In reality, what he was doing was sarcastically reposting a quote from a Fox News commentator saying that Julian Assange ought to be assassinated.

01:15:30.000 And what he did was he quoted that verbatim after that, and they said, oh, you're talking about an FBI agent.

01:15:36.000 He wasn't talking about an FBI agent, but nevertheless, he's in prison because of that.

01:15:41.000 That's essentially what they did to him.

01:15:42.000 So, and by the way, there's an update to Barrett Brown I just noticed over the weekend.

01:15:46.000 They have shut down his email service, not allowing him to receive or send any email because they're afraid that he's going to talk to people on the outside.

01:15:59.000 Tells you exactly what they're after.

01:16:00.000 That's why they would misconstrue what he had to say.

01:16:03.000 When they have somebody who is pointing out their criminal actions or who is an enemy of the state for whatever reason, maybe he just politically opposes what they're doing, they will take your stuff out of context that's on social media and they will send you to jail.

01:16:16.000 Then they will shut you down so that you can't communicate to people on the outside.

01:16:20.000 That's what they're doing to Barrett Brown right now.

01:16:23.000 Yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, you see over and over again examples where the political class can get away with making violent comments, as well as, you know, many leftists, while people are, you know, castigated as offensive or racist for making certain comments taken out of context.

01:16:39.000 You know, Azalea Banks, the black rapper, can rant about killing crackers in their sleep all day and nothing happens. 1.00

01:16:47.000 There was a global warming skeptic just yesterday who got his Twitter account suspended because he had an argument with somebody about global warming.

01:16:55.000 So, again, it's this double standards that they keep applying which, you know, some people can get away with it, others can't, depending on their political viewpoint.

01:17:03.000 Absolutely.

01:17:04.000 I know you wanted to talk about the The aspects of what's going on with this Rolling Stones story in the University of Virginia fraternity that Rolling Stones is now taking back that story and it looks like the fraternity is going to, they say, pursue, according to CNN, they're going to pursue all legal action against Rolling Stones.

01:17:24.000 Break that down for the people, give them background as to what's been going on with that for the last half a year or so.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, well, the incident happened in September, or it didn't happen.

01:17:34.000 It was an alleged incident which turned out to be completely fraudulent.

01:17:37.000 But this college rape myth first began to circulate in 2010. 0.99

01:17:41.000 It was NPR and the Centre for Public Integrity.

01:17:44.000 They put out this report which cherry-picked the facts and misrepresented the data.

01:17:50.000 And then we got this myth that one in five young girls who go to college are raped and this was even repeated by Obama himself.

01:17:58.000 It was only a few months ago that we actually debunked this affirmatively when the Department of Justice came out With statistics that show that college girls were less likely to be raped than women in the general population. 0.65

01:18:13.000 So instead of 1 in 5, it was 0.03 in 5, far lower than the general population.

01:18:20.000 But for 5 years, they peddled this myth that 1 in 5 college girls would be raped. 0.98

01:18:26.000 And again, it's born out of this idea of cultural Marxism. 0.98

01:18:30.000 They only focus on Real rape issues if they can be blamed on the evil white male patriarchy.

01:18:37.000 At the same time that this completely fraudulent and debunked UVA hoax was going on, that you know leftists and feminists were peddling it, we had a situation in England for example, Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, all these different towns where 0.96

01:18:52.000 Groups of Pakistani Muslim men were abducting and sexually abusing young white girls and the authorities in those towns were covering it up because they feared they would be labelled politically incorrect or racist for bringing these rapists to justice.

01:19:10.000 And of course throughout that whole thing, and even after the report came out confirming that this happened, leftists and feminists completely ignored it because they only focus on rape issues that can be blamed on the evil white western male patriarchy that they hate because it's born out of their obsession with cultural Marxism, not genuine concern about women's rights and women and young girls being raped. 0.94

01:19:36.000 Columbia did a thorough investigation into this college rape issue and found that it was completely biased.

01:19:43.000 They made up facts.

01:19:44.000 They had a single source.

01:19:46.000 All the friends of this supposed rape victim, Jackie, didn't give the quotes that were printed in the article.

01:19:52.000 The police investigated this alleged gang rape.

01:19:55.000 Nothing.

01:19:56.000 They found no evidence of it.

01:19:57.000 Hang on, Paul.

01:19:58.000 We're going to break that down a little bit more after the break.

01:20:01.000 Hang on, we're going to come right back after the break.

01:20:03.000 We're going to break that down a little bit more because Columbia University also reviewed this case at the request of Rolling Stone.

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01:24:27.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, I'm David Knight and we're talking to Paul Joseph Watson and what we were talking about just before the break ...was this situation at the University of Virginia involving the Rolling Stone story.

01:24:40.000 Of course, this had been going on for about six months.

01:24:42.000 As Paul was pointing out, there was a climate that had been created by NPR and some other mainstream outlets, or left-stream outlets, however you want to call it, a narrative, a politically correct narrative about rape on college campuses.

01:24:58.000 And apparently, in trying to tap into that vibe, Rolling Stone reporters went over the edge.

01:25:04.000 This is a report that came out today.

01:25:05.000 Actually, this is reported on NPR.

01:25:07.000 A report by the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism said that the errors behind the article involved, quote, basically every level of Rolling Stone's newsroom.

01:25:17.000 They said it was a systematic failing.

01:25:19.000 It involved basically every level of the Rolling Stone newsroom, the reporter, the editor on the front lines, but also the policies and the supervision failed.

01:25:26.000 But basically, Paul, this is essentially I don't know.

01:25:30.000 We see that happen so many times.

01:25:32.000 We've got the media becoming an echo chamber for some cause celeb or some especially politically correct cause.

01:25:40.000 Yeah, it's basically political activism disguised as journalism.

01:25:45.000 But the thing about it is, this Rolling Stone writer who wrote this article in November last year, it's since been completely debunked, she's not going to be fired.

01:25:55.000 Neither is her managing editor, the article editor, or any of the fact checkers that were involved in publishing this story.

01:26:02.000 Despite the fact that even from the very outset, as this Columbia University report makes clear, You know, the quotes used in the article were not from the actual people they were ascribed to.

01:26:13.000 The main protagonist in the supposed gang rape of this woman, Jackie, did not exist.

01:26:19.000 The police, the university, couldn't find any evidence that even existed.

01:26:23.000 So it was completely, it was at least dodgy from the very start.

01:26:26.000 It turned out to be fraudulent.

01:26:28.000 But nobody's being fired.

01:26:30.000 And then, you know, Brian Williams gets suspended for six months for lying about a story.

01:26:35.000 But this writer, this Rolling Stone writer, Sabrina Eardley, and all the staff on the Rolling Stone involved with this, keep their jobs.

01:26:42.000 Nothing happens to them.

01:26:43.000 So again, this idea of male privilege is completely demolished.

01:26:47.000 And, you know, it's the double standard.

01:26:49.000 It's, you know, when certain people say things that are offensive, or when journalists get things badly wrong, or when they lie, some of them are fired, some of them are forced to apologize, some of them just keep their jobs.

01:27:01.000 And even in the apology that this writer made, she didn't apologize to the people accused in this fraternity of having committed this gang rape, which there's no evidence for.

01:27:12.000 So even then, they still double down and refuse to take full responsibility.

01:27:17.000 Interesting.

01:27:17.000 It looks like there is going to be, they said that the fraternity that they are going to follow every legal alley that they have to get compensated for this.

01:27:26.000 One of the things I think that's interesting too about this, Paul, is as they pointed out in this review, they said the pseudonyms and the attribution disguise, as you point out, some of these people did not even really exist.

01:27:38.000 We're not only where the information came from, but also the fact they never identified these friends or ever spoke to them.

01:27:43.000 And of course, that's always an issue when we do journalism.

01:27:47.000 Many times we've got cases that are going on right now with the Obama administration going after James Risen, James Rosen, a couple of people who are from the New York Times, as well as Fox News, did not want to reveal their sources.

01:27:58.000 We've had situations like the Dyess Air Force Base where we couldn't reveal our source there.

01:28:03.000 So you always do have legitimate cases where you don't want to reveal your source in order to protect that source.

01:28:09.000 You have that privilege.

01:28:10.000 But then that can be abused in a really horrific way.

01:28:15.000 I mean, what is the bottom line for this?

01:28:21.000 What the report said, which was that Rolling Stone's fundamental mistake was in suspending any scepticism about Jackie's account, because remember, it was all coming from just her, there was no corroborating evidence or other sources, because of the sensitivity of the issue.

01:28:36.000 And even now, in the aftermath, they're saying, well, it was right to go through with this because, you know, she was a victim and we had to consider the sensitivities of it, even though there's no evidence that she was even a victim at all.

01:28:48.000 So again, it's this political activism, this social justice warrior mentality, that it's okay to lie and follow sloppy standards and just throw up an article that impugns an entire university because of the greater good and the sensitivity of the rape issue.

01:29:04.000 When they completely ignore the huge rape scandal sweeping Europe in, you know, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, where it's through the roof.

01:29:12.000 It's up 1400% rape since the mid-70s, mainly because of Muslim immigrants. 1.00

01:29:20.000 77% of the culprits in Sweden are identified as foreigners.

01:29:23.000 But because that's not politically correct, Leftists and feminists completely ignore it while peddling this rape culture myth, which has been completely debunked by the Justice Department's own statistics. 1.00

01:29:35.000 Yeah, very, very, very selective about what they report.

01:29:37.000 Of course, they're not going to attack anyone who, as you point out, who is Exposing their sacred cows, but of course they will come after anyone who they don't like politically, even if they have to make up the information.

01:29:53.000 Stay with us, we're going to be right back, talking to Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

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01:33:38.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:40.000 I'm David Knight, your host in Austin and we have joining us Paul Joseph Watson from the UK.

01:33:45.000 We've just been talking about the massive journalistic failings that we've seen going on with the Rolling Stones story covering a purported rape at UVA which was a total fabrication and of course Rolling Stone asked for the Graduate School at University of Columbia, the Graduate School of Journalism, to look at this and the report they came back with said that there was systematic failing at every level.

01:34:12.000 Let's put some bookends on this.

01:34:15.000 Paul, of course they're going to, the fraternity that's been defamed in this is going to be pursuing legal measures.

01:34:22.000 They've already said they're going to do that according to CNN Money.

01:34:25.000 They say they're going to pursue all available legal action.

01:34:27.000 There's going to be a lawsuit on this.

01:34:30.000 Let's put a bookend on this.

01:34:31.000 Where do you think this is going to head?

01:34:33.000 Of course, they did not fire this individual who reported this.

01:34:37.000 I mean, is it going to be something that's going to scare the mainstream media from doing this in the future?

01:34:43.000 Or do you think it's going to be business as usual?

01:34:46.000 Well, that's the big debate about whether it will stop actual rape victims from coming forward and reporting what's happened to them because of, you know, the mess that this has created.

01:34:54.000 So that's one of the concerns.

01:34:56.000 The other one for me is just the complete double standard.

01:34:58.000 For example, The Guardian has an article on this, again completely dismissing it, and the comments they promote to the top of the article, which is an interesting new phenomenon because there have been studies Conducted which show that the comments beneath an article can drive the narrative of the entire article rather than the article itself.

01:35:19.000 Which is why comments are very important.

01:35:21.000 Which is why the Guardian censors them all the time.

01:35:23.000 So they've promoted these two comments to the top of the article comments.

01:35:28.000 Which basically say that they still insist that this story is generally true and that Jackie, the woman in the story, was raped, even though there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

01:35:38.000 So it's just interesting how they double down on these issues even though they've been caught in total deception.

01:35:44.000 But it just feeds into the wider narrative, which is, you know, born out of cultural Marxism, that they will only focus on things that can be blamed on white Western males, despite the fact that rape in America has declined 58% since 1994. 0.73

01:36:01.000 We do have a major problem in Europe, as I mentioned before the break, with these Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, which feminists and leftists refuse to talk about because that's not politically correct and because they don't really care about women, they only care about their intersectional issues, which can be blamed on the patriarchy. 1.00

01:36:20.000 So I would hope that it kind of demolishes this whole rape culture myth, as they claim it's arising out of, quote, the dominant culture, which is Western white males, because there's very little evidence for that whatsoever. 0.94

01:36:32.000 In fact, the evidence is that rape is going down, if you look at it from that perspective.

01:36:38.000 But also, you know, we had the Walking Wild Female video a few months ago, a woman walking through mainly poor ghetto areas of New York for ten hours, and they got two minutes of footage of people mainly saying compliments to her.

01:36:54.000 She was harassed a couple of times, but this was ten hours of footage.

01:36:58.000 What was interesting was When some people pointed out that most of the harassment and the heckling was coming from minorities, because she was walking through these poor areas, they actually lied to the video makers and claimed that, oh no, there were more threats and harassment from white people, it's just the audio wasn't loud enough to pick them up.

01:37:18.000 They blatantly lie when people bring up the fact that, you know, it's in a lot of culture that these minorities, because of their culture, not because of the color of their skin, to harass women and treat women as second-class citizens as Islam does in many countries. 0.99

01:37:34.000 But again, Feminists don't talk about that. 1.00

01:37:37.000 They don't draw attention to that because it can't be used to demonize who they want to demonize.

01:37:42.000 It's the same as, you know, adult entertainers. 0.52

01:37:45.000 There was an adult entertainer called Cytheria who was gang raped.

01:37:49.000 Feminists completely ignored it because a lot of them are this kind of new breed of Puritans. 1.00

01:37:54.000 They hate women who are involved in the adult entertainment industry. 1.00

01:37:58.000 So it's just interesting how they pick and choose their rape victims and who to focus on.

01:38:02.000 Well, in this case, it was a completely debunked and demolished issue.

01:38:06.000 It never happened.

01:38:07.000 Well, of course, it is interesting how they pick and choose.

01:38:10.000 And we've talked about that when you and I have talked about the cases of police brutality.

01:38:13.000 They pick and choose.

01:38:14.000 They want to get something that's ambiguous so they can set white people against black people and vice versa. 0.70

01:38:19.000 This is all about divide and conquer, ultimately.

01:38:21.000 And as we played some clips from this This sneering Machiavellian president of Stratfor, his name is Friedman, he's talking about different war issues, and they had somebody ask him, you know, what he thought was the threat of the Islamists, and he goes, well that's not really a problem, and he goes on with some of these other things, but he points out that they want to keep people fighting with each other, because he says you don't have to defeat

01:38:48.000 Something that never gets started the fleet that never gets started in his particular analogy But of course if you've got a pushback against police state abuses you never have to really fight that if you can keep that from ever getting started if people just Dismiss this as something that is a white versus black get people fighting amongst themselves one of the things Paul that he mentioned was how the genius way that Ronald Reagan had gotten the Iraqis and the Iranians fighting against each other.

01:39:18.000 And of course, it's not just getting different countries fighting against each other, but it is getting the citizens of our country to fight against each other over all these different issues and not really seeing where the real enemy is.

01:39:31.000 I think that's really what is at the heart of this, as I see it, is this divide and conquer strategy.

01:39:37.000 Yeah, and you've seen that since the whole Black Lives Matter movement emerged because the polls clearly show that in general across the United States more people now support the police than they did before this whole issue emerged.

01:39:50.000 Because they see these black brunch protesters going into restaurants and diners and just basically harassing white people who have nothing to do with what the police do, police conduct, police brutality. 0.87

01:40:02.000 So again, we never address the real causes of police brutality, which is why police and predominantly black people are getting into these violent confrontations in the first place. 0.94

01:40:12.000 And there's a problem with violence within the police community, but there's also a problem of violence and criminality within the black community. 0.99

01:40:19.000 The statistics bear it out, you know, black people responsible for 50% of homicides despite being only 13% of the population. 1.00

01:40:26.000 So the 9-11 calls are going to be coming from those areas. 0.59

01:40:29.000 That's why they get into confrontations in the first place.

01:40:32.000 That doesn't mean there's not a problem with police brutality.

01:40:35.000 There clearly is.

01:40:36.000 But we're never going to identify and rectify it if most of the population support the police because they've been fed this phony narrative about hands up, don't shoot.

01:40:45.000 Yes, exactly.

01:40:46.000 And what we wind up with

01:40:48.000 Is essentially kind of a, as we've talked about, they talked about the Teflon presidency with Ronald Reagan, how no matter how many scandals he's involved in, even though he could sell arms to our supposed mortal enemies, the Iranians, so that he could then foment revolutions in South America, the Iran-Contra situation, no matter how crooked that was, no matter how much of that was exposed, and of course Gary Webb exposed the other aspect of it, how they would then take the drugs from Central America and create a crack cocaine epidemic, no matter what they did,

01:41:17.000 Nothing stuck because Ronald Reagan was a Teflon president.

01:41:20.000 We see that now with the police state.

01:41:22.000 No matter how bad it is, nothing sticks.

01:41:25.000 And part of it is because of the way they have cleverly switched the narrative and misdirected people.

01:41:30.000 You know, Paul, I don't know if you're aware of this, but here in the U.S., we've had 176 People killed by cops in January and February and then in March alone it was over a hundred people were killed by cops.

01:41:44.000 I mean we do really have a problem and I think part of the reason that we're seeing this disproportionately with black people is because they've got this broken windows Where they say that we're going to set up a heavy police presence in areas where we see broken windows or graffiti or whatever. 0.99

01:42:01.000 So we're going to put a massive amount of police there.

01:42:05.000 Whenever you put a lot of police in a particular area, they're going to start harassing people for stuff like selling cigarettes without paying the tobacco tax on it.

01:42:14.000 And if anybody pushes back, they're liable to kill that person.

01:42:18.000 That's what we saw with Eric Garner.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, and you know, that was a genuine case of police brutality and the cop should have been indicted.

01:42:27.000 But they mainly focus on cases like Antonio Martin, who pointed a gun at a cop's head.

01:42:33.000 I mean, it doesn't matter whether you're black or white, if you point a gun at a cop's head, the consequences generally aren't going to be very pleasant.

01:42:40.000 But they focused on that, like that was another example that it was on a par with Eric Garner.

01:42:45.000 So, you know, the media drives a lot of that.

01:42:47.000 Look at Time Magazine in defense of rioting immediately after the Ferguson unrest.

01:42:53.000 They defended the people who were out there burning down mainly black-owned businesses.

01:42:59.000 So they were pushing this whole narrative along with the Obama Justice Department and Obama himself who said that, you know, they had legitimate grievances when they were burning down stores.

01:43:09.000 You know, that does absolutely nothing to address the issue of police brutality.

01:43:13.000 And only makes the people who raise it as a concern look bad.

01:43:16.000 So it discredited it to a large degree.

01:43:19.000 And then, you know, why is it being funded by George Soros?

01:43:23.000 None of these movements that are promoted by the establishment media and get $33 million in funding can be called grassroots.

01:43:31.000 They're not grassroots.

01:43:32.000 They're astroturf movements that, you know, whip up a lot of Genuine people, but at the end of the day they're being directed towards a narrative and an agenda that suits the elite.

01:43:44.000 It doesn't suit the grassroots, the people that would normally support it.

01:43:48.000 Yeah, you know, I looked at this article today from Infowars.com.

01:43:52.000 CIA and NSA analysts are treated by specialist psychologists because they see so many brutal beheadings and attacks and hardcore child pornography.

01:44:02.000 And you know, so they take him aside and they give them special treatment.

01:44:05.000 And I guess, you know, to some degree, Paul, I look at these headlines every day and I'm looking at some of these things.

01:44:12.000 Disturbing video shows a cop allowing a canine to maul an unconscious man to death.

01:44:16.000 We reported about that.

01:44:17.000 A Texas man thrown in jail for weeks because his lawn was overgrown.

01:44:20.000 Father criticizes Detroit police for alleged negligence and son's traffic stop death.

01:44:25.000 Texas sheriff deputy punches a pregnant woman.

01:44:27.000 Another one where we've got up on InfoWars.com today.

01:44:30.000 Graphic footage surfaces of Idaho police shooting a pregnant woman who's mentally ill.

01:44:35.000 We see this over and over and over again.

01:44:38.000 And I tell you, it just really grieves me.

01:44:41.000 You know, I know that you don't have this situation anywhere near this level in the UK.

01:44:45.000 I hope you don't get it there.

01:44:47.000 But it is a problem here.

01:44:49.000 And we're not doing anything about it because of this divide and conquer strategy.

01:44:53.000 Because they carefully pick which ones they want to talk about.

01:44:56.000 And they avoid the ones that are so obvious and so egregious.

01:45:01.000 And nobody in the mainstream media talks about it.

01:45:03.000 Only we talk about Kelly Thomas, a homeless man, being punched to death repeatedly by cops.

01:45:09.000 When his dad was a former police officer who instructed people on the proper way to engage the public.

01:45:16.000 And we don't even have a discussion in this country about what the proper, let's call it rules of engagement for lack of better terms.

01:45:23.000 How are the police going to conduct themselves?

01:45:25.000 And we just had another case of a cop who was escorted a lady to a domestic dispute because there had been a dispute between she and her husband.

01:45:32.000 And he had there was a restraining order against her.

01:45:36.000 So he was there.

01:45:37.000 An argument broke out between the two of them.

01:45:39.000 The dog started barking and the deputy sheriff pulls out a gun to shoot the barking dog who was no threat to him. 0.61

01:45:46.000 He somehow falls on the ground as he's shooting and continues shooting and shoots a lady in the chest multiple times and kills her.

01:45:53.000 I mean, that's the kind of Barney Fife, over-the-top, crazy rules that we see of engagement that the police are acting and nothing is being done.

01:46:02.000 He's not going to be charged for anything.

01:46:04.000 Not for negligent use, negligent homicide, nothing.

01:46:08.000 And of course, he's going to remain a cop.

01:46:09.000 And that's why we see that everywhere.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, I think there's some crazy statistic which is something like there have been more Americans killed by police in the last year than something like the last 30 years in the UK.

01:46:22.000 It's something like that.

01:46:23.000 But as far as I can tell, it must be due to the training.

01:46:27.000 Because when you watch videos of police training, in fact I remember posting one in an article, it was out of Austin I think, it's literally like a military boot camp.

01:46:37.000 Where they're being trained to take on an enemy.

01:46:39.000 And where is that training coming from?

01:46:41.000 It's coming from the federal government, we know that.

01:46:43.000 And even in New Mexico, remember the case where they shot the homeless man just outside of Albuquerque in the hills and that did become viral.

01:46:51.000 It was in New Mexico at the state level that you had an instructor saying, I'm not going to teach this shoot first curriculum.

01:46:59.000 And they had changed that.

01:47:00.000 That was dictated from the federal government.

01:47:02.000 They want to militarize the police.

01:47:04.000 They want to have confrontations.

01:47:06.000 They want them to get violent with the public.

01:47:08.000 It's being driven from the federal government.

01:47:10.000 And there are officers at the state level, at the local level, who are pushing back against it.

01:47:15.000 Unfortunately, Their only choice now, in most cases, is what this guy at the State Police Academy in New Mexico did, and that was resign.

01:47:23.000 Because the system had moved on and had left behind officers who wanted to have a sane, balanced response to situations.

01:47:31.000 I tell you, if you've got to shoot a pregnant woman, if that's your only way that you can control a situation with a pregnant woman, you should not be in the job. 1.00

01:47:39.000 Period. 0.91

01:47:42.000 Well, I mean, you remember the target, you know, the billboard targets that they were selling to Homeland Security, one of them was of a pregnant woman.

01:47:49.000 Yes, true.

01:47:51.000 The whole perception of American police, objectively, if you live outside of the United States, is that they're this predatory gang.

01:47:59.000 I mean, one of the iconic images of American police is just them hanging out on a highway Generating revenue, and then shooting people.

01:48:07.000 Those are the two most familiar things that people would associate with American police from an outside perspective.

01:48:13.000 Well, from somebody who's grown up here, that's the way I would look at it, basically.

01:48:16.000 Yeah.

01:48:17.000 It's the same way I would look at it.

01:48:18.000 That's a pretty true perception, unfortunately.

01:48:20.000 It used to be that there was a joke about, you know, heaven was, you know, where you get the best of all these different places.

01:48:25.000 You know, hell was where you would get the British cooking and the German police and so forth and so on. 0.88

01:48:29.000 But now the American police have taken the place of the most oppressive police.

01:48:34.000 Of course, the German police got that reputation because of Hitler, because of the Stasi.

01:48:39.000 But we have gotten far worse than the German police ever were. 1.00

01:48:42.000 And they have more power and more information about everybody than the German police ever did.

01:48:48.000 No, I mean, you know, the majority of police in America will, you know, they're perfectly fine and you won't have any problems with them, but it's just this gang mentality that infests a lot of it.

01:48:59.000 You know, the roid heads and the tattooed ones.

01:49:02.000 It's not like that in Britain. 0.52

01:49:03.000 I mean, yeah, the police are corrupt, they're completely corrupt, but they don't go out in a predatory fashion to attack the public and look to escalate violent confrontations.

01:49:13.000 It's all about De-escalating violence.

01:49:16.000 In America it seems like the opposite.

01:49:18.000 It seems the first chance they get, even if you merely speak back to them, they will use that as an excuse to escalate the situation if they don't get instant avail from, you know, a member of the public.

01:49:30.000 And here's the thing that we need to talk about.

01:49:32.000 As you point out, we're not trying to do a blanket condemnation of police.

01:49:35.000 As Frank Serpico, who we've had on this program many times, if people are young, they may not know the movie Serpico with Al Pacino.

01:49:41.000 You should see it.

01:49:42.000 It's a great film.

01:49:43.000 Interesting, true story.

01:49:44.000 But we've had Frank Serpico on many times.

01:49:46.000 He talks about people being points of light who are in the system, who speak out against what's happening there.

01:49:52.000 In his day, What was happening was corruption from the war on drugs, and it was a financial thing.

01:49:57.000 But he pointed out that today, there's this brutality issue.

01:50:00.000 That's really the bigger challenge, and of course that, I would argue, has come out of the corruption with the war on drugs.

01:50:07.000 But when you don't stop it, and as he said, You're always going to have, in any profession, you're always going to have good people and you're going to have bad people.

01:50:14.000 I mean, we were just talking about journalism.

01:50:16.000 Look at the situation that happened here.

01:50:18.000 You've got Rolling Stones has done some great journalism, especially Matt Tiabi about bankers and that sort of thing.

01:50:23.000 But you've got different types of people there.

01:50:26.000 Once, though, you have a system that does not punish wrongdoing, then the system itself accepts that wrongdoing.

01:50:35.000 It excuses it.

01:50:36.000 It internalizes it.

01:50:38.000 And then you have systemic corruption.

01:50:40.000 And that's the problem that we have here in America today.

01:50:42.000 Because the brutality is not being punished.

01:50:45.000 The people are not being fired or put in jail.

01:50:48.000 And so the system itself is accepting it, rubber stamping it, and becoming systemically corrupted.

01:50:54.000 We're out of time.

01:50:54.000 Thank you so much, Paul.

01:50:55.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.

01:50:56.000 Paul Joseph Watson.

01:50:58.000 Thanks, David.

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01:55:53.000 Of course the elephant in the room that everyone is talking about is Jeb Bush.

01:56:01.000 He has so much money.

01:56:02.000 We've got an article that's up on Drudge today.

01:56:04.000 Gary Hart is talking about a billion dollar Clinton campaign.

01:56:08.000 He said that should frighten Americans.

01:56:09.000 I think it should.

01:56:10.000 I think we should all be frightened about how much money is pouring into the coffers of Clinton and of Jeb Bush.

01:56:18.000 You know, it was HL Meakin that said an election is an advanced auction of stolen goods and he was exactly right.

01:56:23.000 Guys, pull up that clip with Jeb Bush on Hugh Hewitt.

01:56:29.000 Because, you know, when you give a billion dollars to Hillary Clinton, and we see that happening all the time, I mean, we could wind up having a two billion dollar presidential campaign. 0.96

01:56:40.000 And that is just a prescription for disaster.

01:56:42.000 That is an advanced auction of stolen goods.

01:56:47.000 Jeb Bush went on the Hugh Hewitt Show, and Hugh Hewitt is a conservative, a right-wing conservative as I would call him, a real warmonger, and they were talking about the NSA and Jeb Bush's love affair with the NSA.

01:57:00.000 And of course, this is a conversation that happened right after the shooting of the two men dressed as women, the two transvestite prostitutes that had stolen a car or whatever and hit the barrier.

01:57:10.000 But this is the way they responded to that. 0.88

01:57:12.000 Let's play that audio clip.

01:57:14.000 Let's turn to the serious stuff.

01:57:15.000 I want to start with the attack on the NSA today.

01:57:18.000 We don't know much about these two people.

01:57:20.000 Probably terrorists, obviously.

01:57:22.000 It's a terrorist attack when you attack the NSA.

01:57:24.000 How great a threat of lone wolf terrorism do you see right now and what should the country do about it?

01:57:28.000 I think it's a serious threat in a world where we're so connected with the rest of the world.

01:57:33.000 We have people moving in and people moving out.

01:57:39.000 Okay, so it's a serious threat.

01:57:40.000 It's a lone wolf terrorist, okay?

01:57:42.000 So, we know that because, you know, they attacked the NSA.

01:57:45.000 And even though there was two of them, it was a lone wolf.

01:57:49.000 I tell you what, in Washington, if you get lost or if you get panicked, just make sure you're not dressed as a woman. 1.00

01:57:53.000 You know, make sure that you're dressed like a Secret Service agent because then you can crash the barricades and nothing is going to happen to you.

01:57:59.000 But, of course, we need, he's going to go on and tell you how much we need the NSA.

01:58:03.000 But, of course, the NSA can't even protect themselves.

01:58:06.000 Let's continue with that tape.

01:58:07.000 Everybody gets to listen to your show to get all the information.

01:58:10.000 People get their information in different ways.

01:58:12.000 They get disaffected, disillusioned, preyed upon, and so yeah, I think that this is a ongoing threat, and I hope that our counterintelligence capabilities are always vigilant.

01:58:23.000 I've always been nervous about the attacks on the NSA and somehow that we're losing our freedoms by keeping the homeland safe.

01:58:30.000 I think we need to be really vigilant.

01:58:31.000 That's where I was leading.

01:58:32.000 There is an element within our party, and I'm a Republican, you're a Republican, that has grown Snowden-esque in certain ways and very, very anti-surveillance.

01:58:41.000 But in a world where people are attacking the NSA, I don't know that we have an alternative.

01:58:45.000 So how do you balance those two things out?

01:58:46.000 Okay, we'll be right back and play the rest of that clip for you. 0.69

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02:00:40.000 We're going to talk about what he found out about Barrett Brown.

02:00:44.000 Of course, Barrett Brown has had his emails suspended by the prison system for using it, quote, for the wrong thing.

02:00:51.000 You know, talking to people, that type of thing.

02:00:53.000 That's wrong.

02:00:54.000 We're going to talk to Joe Biggs about that, because we can break that down a little bit farther for you, where it actually involves Joe talking to him on the email.

02:01:03.000 But before I do, I want to go back and finish up with this Jeb Bush tape that we had.

02:01:07.000 He was on the Hugh Hewitt Show, and this is Jeb Bush talking about the NSA.

02:01:11.000 First, they were talking about the attack that had just happened on the NSA, as it was portrayed an attack.

02:01:17.000 It really wasn't an attack.

02:01:19.000 But the two men who were dressed up as women, both of them got shot, one of them killed.

02:01:24.000 And of course, it was an opportunity for Hugh Hewitt and Jeb Bush to portray the NSA as helpless victims.

02:01:32.000 But at the same time, they are going to protect us by their dragnet surveillance.

02:01:37.000 And so Bush goes on to make the case for dragnet surveillance of the NSA.

02:01:42.000 Let's continue with that clip.

02:01:44.000 I've always been nervous about the attacks on the NSA and somehow that we're losing our freedoms by keeping the homeland safe.

02:01:51.000 I think we need to be really vigilant.

02:01:52.000 That's where I was leading.

02:01:53.000 There is an element within our party, and I'm a Republican, you're a Republican, that has grown Snowdesk in certain ways and very, very anti-surveillance.

02:02:02.000 But in a world where people are attacking the NSA, I don't know that we have an alternative.

02:02:05.000 So how do you balance those two things out?

02:02:07.000 Well, first of all, I think the President has to lead, has to explain to people.

02:02:11.000 He's actually enhanced the intelligence capabilities in many ways because technology's gotten better.

02:02:16.000 But he never defends it, he never explains it, he never tries to persuade people that their civil liberties are being protected by the systems we have in place.

02:02:24.000 Ooh, catch that?

02:02:27.000 Obama hasn't owned this, is the problem, see?

02:02:29.000 If you were a Bush, you would go out there and you would talk about how we have this Patriot Act.

02:02:35.000 You know, it's almost like, as my son pointed out, it's like, oh look, that acronym spells PATRIOT.

02:02:42.000 Must be a sign.

02:02:43.000 Who would have thought?

02:02:44.000 This whole thing was a takedown of our legal system.

02:02:48.000 And we need to understand that this isn't about surveillance or not surveillance.

02:02:52.000 You're not allowed to surveil dragnet surveillance.

02:02:55.000 That's clear.

02:02:57.000 And of course, they don't have a problem with it, the Bushes.

02:03:01.000 If he were Obama, he would embrace it.

02:03:03.000 He would brag about how the NSA is protecting our civil liberties.

02:03:08.000 Let's have that discussion.

02:03:09.000 I would like to hear Jeb Bush explain how the NSA is protecting our civil liberties when they defy the law, when they defy the FISA Act, when they defy every aspect of our protections under the Constitution.

02:03:22.000 But they're protecting us.

02:03:23.000 Look, he has already gone on record as saying that he thinks that the NSA is hugely important, and like many other Republicans, like Burr from North Carolina, who is now the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman, he says he doesn't think there should ever be any oversight of anything that the NSA does.

02:03:44.000 And of course, there's an article out from NPR that Jeb Bush is self-identified as an Hispanic on his voter application in 2009.

02:03:51.000 Well, that tells you something about what his immigration policies are going to be.

02:03:57.000 He is self-identified as an authoritarian.

02:04:00.000 He has owned this, even to the extent that in Florida, as the New York Times pointed out on March 21st, he said that he's got a plan that's called, codenamed, Homeland Security.

02:04:11.000 And that's how he's going to neutralize homegrown threats to his campaign.

02:04:17.000 Everything these guys do is a police state.

02:04:20.000 It's absolutely obnoxious to think that our choice is going to probably be Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton.

02:04:26.000 That is not a choice, and that's why we're not going to change anything from Washington.

02:04:29.000 And let me give you another reason why we're not going to change anything from Washington.

02:04:33.000 Sarah Brady, as you may have realized, died this last weekend.

02:04:36.000 And of course, you know, this is unfortunately a life that has been spent in a misguided effort to try to bring some meaning to the tragedy of her husband's shooting.

02:04:47.000 But the thing I see when I look at this is how Ronald Reagan threw the Second Amendment under the bus because he wanted to help a friend and try to give some meaning to this suffering.

02:05:00.000 That's why we can't get this fixed in Washington.

02:05:03.000 Because Ronald Reagan doesn't appreciate the Second Amendment, or any of the rest of the amendments with his civil asset forfeiture.

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02:08:34.000 I had mentioned in the last hour when I was talking to Paul Joseph Watson that Barrett Brown and of course Paul and Joe and I had talked to Barrett Brown from prison.

02:08:45.000 We had talked to him on the phone.

02:08:48.000 And I just saw over the weekend that they have suspended his email, quote, for using it for the wrong thing.

02:08:54.000 And when I mentioned that to Paul Joseph Watson, in the break, Joe Biggs came in and told me, he says, yeah, he was contacted by some of the people and they asked him questions about, tell us what you heard, Joe.

02:09:07.000 So I was speaking to some of the people on Barrett Brown's side.

02:09:11.000 One of the guys, Kevin Gallagher, who runs the Free Barrett Brown accounts and all that for him.

02:09:17.000 And he said, hey, you're not going to be able to email with Barrett anymore.

02:09:20.000 And I said, why not?

02:09:21.000 He said, well, from what we've been told and what we believe, it's because of his correspondence with you at InfoWars and what you've been talking about.

02:09:27.000 And the fact that he also set me up with another inmate who had bombshell Interesting, because in the story on RT, they point out that his access has been restricted for a full year until April of 2016 without explanation.

02:09:42.000 prisoners who were trying to get their stories out, they essentially cut his email off.

02:09:47.000 Interesting, because in the story on RT, they point out that his access has been restricted for a full year until April of 2016 without explanation.

02:09:55.000 But while speaking to a supervisor, Brown was told that he lost his email privileges because he was quote, using it for the wrong thing.

02:10:01.000 They say he was also talking to Glenn Greenwald from The Intercept about the possibility of writing for his publication, a regular column.

02:10:09.000 They restricted his email.

02:10:10.000 They say that according to their own policy in the Bureau of Prisons, that inmates can send electronic messages, but with the exception they prohibit or discontinue his operation if the individual inmate's participation is determined to jeopardize the safety, the security, or the orderly operation of the correctional facility.

02:10:29.000 I mean, there's nothing.

02:10:30.000 I mean, how are you going to do that with email?

02:10:33.000 I don't really know.

02:10:34.000 I mean, he's not trying to break out.

02:10:36.000 Well, him and I never spoke about anything that had to do with corruption within the prison system, although he did mention the fact that when he was able to get out, he would definitely have some things to speak about that.

02:10:47.000 And that's something that he would look forward to writing about and doing more research into as a corruption in these prison systems.

02:10:53.000 But the main thing is the fact that he linked me to this inmate who had been there for quite some time.

02:10:57.000 And like he said, his words were just big information, breaking news about massive corruption going on there.

02:11:03.000 So he was trying to, you know, we're playing a little cat and mouse back and forth here.

02:11:08.000 He was getting me in contact with this guy, back and forth, and now they're thinking that's why, because he was going to essentially give me a lot of information about what was going on there.

02:11:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:11:18.000 And for those of you who don't know about Barrett Brown, I know many of our audience know a lot about him, and perhaps some in our audience don't know anything about him.

02:11:28.000 When we talked about his case, we had him call in.

02:11:31.000 And just to kind of summarize it very quickly, it was a very egregious case.

02:11:36.000 I mean, they were coming after him initially because he had linked to something, because he had a link.

02:11:41.000 I mean, that sets up all kinds of troubling precedents.

02:11:43.000 If you can go to jail just for linking to some documents that somebody else has done.

02:11:47.000 Nobody had ever accused him of hacking Stratfor, knowing anything about it.

02:11:51.000 He's simply a journalist.

02:11:52.000 He had written a lot about Anonymous, and he was In one of these articles, he had linked to something that was there.

02:12:01.000 As a matter of fact, his only involvement, if you could say it was involvement, was to offer to take a look at this document on behalf of Stratfor and make sure that nothing private got out.

02:12:09.000 That it was only information that the public should have in terms of their secret correspondence with government and with corporations conspiring to do dirty tricks with people.

02:12:20.000 And that's what people really wanted to see.

02:12:22.000 That's what Anonymous was really about.

02:12:23.000 But of course, they sent him to jail for that.

02:12:25.000 They sent him to jail.

02:12:26.000 They eventually dropped that charge, but then they accused him, as I pointed out when I was talking to Paul Joseph Watson, of making a comment on social media saying, basically repeating what a Fox News commentator had said, calling for the assassination of Julian Assange, and just verbatim repeated that.

02:12:44.000 And they said, you're talking about an FBI agent, so you're going to go to jail for threatening an FBI agent.

02:12:49.000 And then they also take his Declaration of Independence and file that away as evidence, you know, that he's an extremist patriot who loves the Constitution.

02:12:57.000 I mean, the fact that that is now a crime in our country shows you how out of control this country is going.

02:13:04.000 Having a pocket copy of the Declaration of Independence the FBI said was evidence that Barrett Brown was an extremist, okay, a dangerous person.

02:13:14.000 And they refused to give that back to him.

02:13:17.000 And it was part even of the plea bargain agreement that he made with them.

02:13:22.000 And the judge said, well, I think we can give it back.

02:13:24.000 And he actually has the judge's orders.

02:13:25.000 He said he didn't talk to anybody about that for the longest time because he didn't think anyone would believe him.

02:13:29.000 And that's the problem.

02:13:30.000 Just as we're talking about this case of this lawyer who was, uh, the judge got very vindictive in a divorce case.

02:13:36.000 She said, you need to recuse yourself, and he said, I'm not going to do it, and then he went after her.

02:13:40.000 She alleges that she was tortured, sexually molested, and held for a very long period of time, and the lawyers who looked at it said, nobody's going to believe this.

02:13:48.000 That's the kind of country we live in.

02:13:49.000 Well, the problem since 2008 is we had a president who ran on the fact that he was going to be the most transparent presidency ever.

02:13:58.000 Yes.

02:13:58.000 And it has been ten times worse than the Bush administration by far.

02:14:02.000 I mean, they are going after whistleblowers.

02:14:04.000 They're going after anybody who exposes corruption.

02:14:08.000 Meanwhile, they leave these criminals alone.

02:14:11.000 Yes, yes.

02:14:12.000 He is transparent, though.

02:14:13.000 I mean, it is the most transparently criminal organization that we've ever had.

02:14:17.000 Every administration, whether it's Republican or Democrat, gets worse.

02:14:20.000 That's what scares me, Joe, about the prospect of looking at another Bush or another Clinton.

02:14:26.000 We know that it is going to rapidly go up.

02:14:28.000 And if you heard that clip where Jeb Bush was talking to Hugh Hewitt, saying, well, the biggest problem with the current administration is not that they've got dragnet spying on everybody.

02:14:38.000 But that Obama isn't owning it and being proud of it, because the Republicans are proud of the police state that they have created.

02:14:46.000 The police state that William Binney, who was the top technical person globally at the NSA for decades, said, we have a police state.

02:14:53.000 And he's somebody who knows what a police state is.

02:14:55.000 He spent decades watching the Stasi, watching the Soviet Union.

02:15:00.000 He knows exactly what a police state is.

02:15:01.000 And he says what we've got now is far more dangerous because of the technological leverage that they have.

02:15:07.000 Yeah, I agree completely.

02:15:08.000 I mean, within the past year alone, since I've been here, I mean, it's just spiraled out of control.

02:15:14.000 Yes, yes.

02:15:15.000 You know, we have, because we don't have any constraints over the people in government, you know, we're seeing exponential growth in technology, okay?

02:15:15.000 That's the problem.

02:15:25.000 It is rapidly, and that's something that's been going on for decades.

02:15:28.000 What people don't realize that has also been going on for decades is the misapplication of that technology, okay?

02:15:35.000 It isn't just so much that we've got artificial intelligence, which can be targeted on a very specific population, on a very specific problem or whatever.

02:15:42.000 It's that we've got men of artificial integrity in office, and they're going to misuse that technology.

02:15:50.000 That's what Eisenhower warned us about.

02:15:52.000 He said that all the research was going to be taken over.

02:15:55.000 When he talked about the military-industrial complex, he also talked about how all the research would be taken over by the universities, the university research would be taken over by the military-industrial complex, and they would turn the technology into a very dangerous purpose.

02:16:08.000 And that's what we see happening with DARPA research and the weapons that they're creating.

02:16:13.000 I mean, we have a criminal presidency in general.

02:16:17.000 I mean, if you and I wanted to go to the White House tomorrow, and if we were late on taxes or anything like that, we wouldn't be able to be around the president.

02:16:24.000 We wouldn't be able to be within 100 yards of him, get set foot on White House property.

02:16:30.000 Meanwhile, you're allowed to bring in a criminal thug like Al Sharpton, who owes millions of dollars.

02:16:36.000 So, we have this criminal operation, and then they're allowing criminals to come in there as well.

02:16:41.000 Or you can have Al-Awlaki that dines at the Pentagon multiple times, and then he has to be one of our first and highest profile drone assassinations. 0.56

02:16:49.000 He sets the precedent for it because he's the person who is so dangerous.

02:16:52.000 If he's so dangerous, why was he advising the Pentagon on Terrorism, right?

02:16:58.000 It's because these guys are running both sides of it, just like they ran both sides of the war on drugs and continue to run both sides on the war on drugs.

02:17:04.000 I mean, it's pretty obvious to everybody that they're funding the terrorists, that they tried to get this war going in Syria.

02:17:09.000 Now they've got it going in Syria, they've got it going in multiple places.

02:17:12.000 You know, one of the things that I thought was interesting, Joe, I'll just throw this out, get your comments on it.

02:17:16.000 Antiwar.com had an article up talking about protesters in Saudi Arabia protesting this war that Saudi Arabia has gotten involved in in Yemen.

02:17:25.000 And I thought that was a pretty amazing thing.

02:17:27.000 They had two people killed, 30 protesters wounded as Saudi forces attack an anti-war rally.

02:17:35.000 I mean, that shows you that in Saudi Arabia, There are people that have the guts to stand up to an authoritarian state, and you're not going to find an authoritarian state any worse than Saudi Arabia.

02:17:47.000 I mean, they're our allies, okay?

02:17:49.000 And they've had the best of our technology, the best of our help in terms of setting up, just as we did in Iran, setting up the Savak under the Shah. 0.86

02:17:58.000 I mean, it's only going to be a matter of time before something like that happens here when people start protesting.

02:18:01.000 I mean, it's happened before, but on a much larger scale.

02:18:04.000 And then you have all these operations happening.

02:18:06.000 Jada Helm, there's a dirty bomb exercise this Saturday in California in Richmond.

02:18:10.000 There's another disaster.

02:18:13.000 um, preparation thing that's going to be happening here in Austin at the end of the month.

02:18:16.000 I mean, all these drills are happening and it all looks like it's pushing in that martial law direction, you know, against, you know, public insurrection where people are standing up and quite frankly, just pissed off with the government's doing.

02:18:28.000 And it's going to get to a point where they start mowing down crowds of people out there.

02:18:32.000 Using the national guard, using all these people.

02:18:32.000 Yes.

02:18:34.000 And that's a scary thing.

02:18:35.000 I just hope it never gets to that point.

02:18:37.000 Exactly.

02:18:37.000 As I look at this, I think, you know, when I first saw this article, I thought, wow, that is a gutsy group of people to go into Saudi Arabia and stand up and protest.

02:18:46.000 Because, I mean, you know, people get flogged, they get beheaded, they get their hands cut off for virtually nothing in that country.

02:18:52.000 I mean, they have, you want to talk about beheadings, there's been more beheadings by our allies, the Saudis, than there have from all the purported terrorist events, even if those are all real and a lot of them look very much like they were manufactured.

02:19:05.000 It's like you say, you judge someone by the friends they keep around.

02:19:07.000 You know, the people that we keep in our corner aren't really doing very great humanitarian type things.

02:19:15.000 And we're definitely becoming a reflection of that.

02:19:18.000 And if you don't punish the bad people in the crowd.

02:19:20.000 I mean, that's the point I was making last, when I was talking to Paul Joseph Watson.

02:19:25.000 As Frank Serpico said, police are like any other group.

02:19:28.000 When you pull people in, you're going to have good people, you're going to have bad people.

02:19:30.000 You can have bad journalists, you can have bad police, you can have good journalists.

02:19:34.000 But if you don't purge it out, then it becomes institutionalized, then it becomes systemic.

02:19:40.000 And that's the whole issue, too, with this Rolling Stones situation.

02:19:43.000 Because they did not do anything about it, now they're opening themselves up for legal issues.

02:19:48.000 But what do we do about an over-the-top police organization?

02:19:51.000 We're going to take your calls when we come back from the break.

02:19:53.000 Thanks so much for letting us know what you know about this Bear Brown situation.

02:19:56.000 We're going to keep looking at it, and we're going to do our best to try to talk to him again.

02:20:00.000 We're not going to let them censor that.

02:20:02.000 We'll be right back.

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02:25:12.000 Let's go to Harvey in Florida.

02:25:14.000 Harvey, you live in Florida.

02:25:16.000 What do you think about Jeb Bush?

02:25:17.000 It looks like that's what you want to talk about.

02:25:20.000 Yeah, I really wanted to speak about something else, but you said it's like saying Niagara Falls to me.

02:25:26.000 This is the third generation of a Nazi-loving family. 0.78

02:25:32.000 And the Nazis that took over this country, I mean, that tape that you had, With him admitting how he loves the NSA because that protects the interests of the Nazi ruling party that took over this country. 0.81

02:25:47.000 His father was in the CIA which oversaw the building up of the police state through the NSA.

02:25:55.000 And the one time we ever needed the NSA, which is to prevent 9-11 and things like that, well, they were nowhere to be found because their job is really to protect the interests of the people like Bush.

02:26:07.000 What do you think about that?

02:26:08.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:26:09.000 And if you hear that clip between him and Hugh Hewitt right after the shooting at the NSA, and of course, we said the shooting at the NSA.

02:26:16.000 It sounds like they were shooting at the NSA.

02:26:17.000 It was the NSA that was shooting, the security guards that were shooting at them.

02:26:21.000 But of course, they're trumping that up, saying, this is why we need to have this dragnet surveillance state.

02:26:26.000 Look, it is not to protect your civil liberties, as Jeb Bush says. 1.00

02:26:29.000 Anybody that believes that is a blithering idiot. 0.99

02:26:33.000 This doesn't protect anybody's civil liberties. 1.00

02:26:35.000 It destroys your civil liberties.

02:26:37.000 It destroys the rule of law.

02:26:39.000 Even if they were to stay within the confines of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which was put in place because of the exposures of what the CIA was doing by Frank Church.

02:26:50.000 And guess who they got in place after they got rid of some of the people at the CIA?

02:26:55.000 It was George H.W.

02:26:56.000 Bush.

02:26:57.000 He went into the CIA.

02:26:58.000 He was the guy that they put in to rebuild and to get around any restrictions that were put in there.

02:27:04.000 Look, anybody that buys that, you can sell them a Brooklyn Bridge or anything.

02:27:09.000 It's absolutely absurd and obnoxious to hear that kind of talk coming from Jeb Bush.

02:27:14.000 But of course, what do you expect from somebody that talks about his campaign as Homeland Security and how they're going to take out homegrown threats to his campaign?

02:27:21.000 I tell you, Harvey, I was done with Jeb Bush.

02:27:24.000 And his brother.

02:27:25.000 And I think most people should be done with him.

02:27:28.000 I mean, well, for a long time.

02:27:30.000 But I'll just say this.

02:27:31.000 The Christians should get a clue when they watch the way these two guys behaved in the Terry Shavo case. 0.99

02:27:37.000 If you want to give these guys a pass and say, you know, I don't really care how they destroy the rule of law because I know the Bush family are good Christians.

02:27:46.000 I mean, I've heard Christians tell me that.

02:27:49.000 And it's like, you know, they don't realize what they have done.

02:27:53.000 But we don't need a system that needs good men in place to work. 0.59

02:27:57.000 We need to make sure that we've got a system of checks and balances.

02:28:00.000 And the Bush family has done more than anybody else, except maybe the Clintons, to destroy that.

02:28:05.000 Of course, Obama's been pretty active too, every one of these presidents.

02:28:09.000 But he's not going to do anything to restore that.

02:28:10.000 And I've got to say that anybody that believes all these funny stories About their evangelical experiences.

02:28:16.000 Need to look at the fruit of what came out of these two guys.

02:28:20.000 Look at how they allowed a probate judge to shut off food and water to a dying woman against the wishes of half of her family.

02:28:28.000 What would it hurt to give that woman food and water, yet they arrested people who wanted to do that. 1.00

02:28:32.000 What are your comments, Harvey?

02:28:33.000 You know anything about the history of Jeb Bush?

02:28:37.000 He traded on his family's connections and his family's wealth.

02:28:42.000 That was all generated by the police data.

02:28:45.000 He was the Nigerian water pump salesman.

02:28:48.000 Look that up.

02:28:49.000 Do a Google search for the Nigerian, Jeb Bush, the water pump salesman to Nigeria.

02:28:55.000 Inside dealing, inside trading.

02:28:57.000 Yeah.

02:28:58.000 He was accused of a tremendous crime there.

02:29:00.000 He also was involved with the Sunrise Savings and Loan where he shistered buildings.

02:29:06.000 There's a typical guy that was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run. - Yeah, yeah. - He's an inside real dealer trading on his family's wealth, and he's a nothing but a, literally, literally a third generation Nazi scumbag. 0.90

02:29:23.000 That's what we're dealing with here. 0.99

02:29:24.000 And you're talking about the... If he can show his face in public, he should be pilloried.

02:29:28.000 And you're talking about the connections that George H.W.

02:29:32.000 Bush's father had with Averill Harriman and the Nazi financing.

02:29:38.000 Yeah, people need to take a look at the Panama Deception, and they also need to take a look at this new documentary, the man, the journalist, I think, or the writer, the writer with no hands.

02:29:46.000 Look that trailer up.

02:29:47.000 That's an interesting premise about what maybe was behind the attack on Panama.

02:29:52.000 Stay with us, we're gonna be right back with your calls.

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02:33:09.000 I'm beginning a new effort to fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own. 1.00

02:33:16.000 I've also directed Secretary Johnson and Attorney General Holder to identify additional actions my administration can take on our own, within my existing legal authorities, to do what Congress refuses to do and fix as much of our immigration system as we can.

02:33:32.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.

02:33:42.000 Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:45.000 I'm David Knight, your host today.

02:33:46.000 We're going to go back to your calls.

02:33:47.000 Sean, Frank, Andrew, Stephen, hang on, we're going to be right with you.

02:33:51.000 Before I go back, I want to just mention this article that I saw that I thought was kind of interesting out of the Atlantic.

02:33:56.000 How red states learn to love the gas tax.

02:33:59.000 And of course, as soon as the price of oil dropped precipitously, Alex Jones said, they're going to use this to put taxes on you.

02:34:07.000 And that's what's happening.

02:34:09.000 And it's coming from, guess what?

02:34:10.000 Republican states.

02:34:11.000 Because you know what?

02:34:13.000 They're looking for ways to grow government.

02:34:15.000 They're not looking for ways to cut spending.

02:34:17.000 They're looking for ways to fund ever-increasing spending.

02:34:21.000 They're not about limited government.

02:34:22.000 Let me give you an example.

02:34:24.000 They point out in The Atlantic, a month ago, Iowa's Republican Governor Terry Branstad approved a gas tax hike that sailed through the legislature in under two weeks.

02:34:32.000 Top Republicans in Georgia, Michigan, and South Dakota have also proposed similar increases.

02:34:37.000 See, while the taxes are down, while the price of oil is down, they're going to ramp up the taxes.

02:34:44.000 Hoping that you're not going to notice it.

02:34:45.000 Oh, well, it's not quite as cheap as it was last week, but hey, it's still cheaper than it was a few months ago, so that's cool.

02:34:50.000 They say as many as 12 states could raise fuel taxes in 2015 alone, after six did so in just the last two years.

02:34:58.000 They say this is a breakthrough for many states that have gone more than 20 years without touching the levy on gasoline.

02:35:04.000 Yeah, thank you, Saudis.

02:35:05.000 Now we can ramp it up at the pump in terms of taxes.

02:35:10.000 But they say the most interesting thing from the standpoint of the Atlantic is that, hey, this isn't really causing any discussion in these red states, in these Republican states.

02:35:20.000 There is no debate, they said.

02:35:21.000 There's no ideological fight.

02:35:23.000 Even though the Utah Taxpayer Association even was a main opposition to increasing the gas tax.

02:35:30.000 It didn't happen, okay?

02:35:31.000 This is still getting rammed through.

02:35:33.000 Now, the reason this is happening is because they're pushing this through and saying, this is what the Republicans are saying.

02:35:39.000 The users of the system need to be the ones that pay for the system.

02:35:42.000 I believe that's a core Republican principle.

02:35:44.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:35:46.000 That's true.

02:35:47.000 If that were the way that the money...

02:35:50.000 the money was going to be used.

02:35:51.000 But we know in state after state after state, they hike up the gas taxes and they don't spend it all on improving the roads or the bridges.

02:35:59.000 They divert it to other areas.

02:36:01.000 Because you know what is also another Republican principle?

02:36:03.000 Bait and switch.

02:36:05.000 That's something that they really have now.

02:36:08.000 Okay, let's go to Sean in Trinidad.

02:36:10.000 Hi, David.

02:36:10.000 Sean?

02:36:13.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:36:15.000 I really love the show.

02:36:18.000 You all guys, you all have because I've been how I can put this, been taking a very, very, very close look at the United States for the last year.

02:36:30.000 And I gotta say, America has the most divisive president ever.

02:36:37.000 What I mean by that is, we look at the rise of this feud between whites and blacks, filling the void with Hispanics. 0.99

02:36:45.000 The persecution of the church with this homosexual agenda and supposed religious freedom for Muslims. 0.98

02:36:53.000 We look at basically funding both sides of all these wars that happen in the Middle East where they back the Iranian troops in Iraq and then back Saudi Arabia in fighting the Houthis in Yemen, Washiite, in terms of their allegiance.

02:37:11.000 There's only one way I can look at this, David.

02:37:13.000 I'm a Christian.

02:37:15.000 As you know, the name of my country, Trinidad and Tobago, is formed by Christopher Columbus in the representation of the Trinity, God the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

02:37:24.000 And there's only one way I could see this.

02:37:27.000 I viewed that video you all did with Gerald Cilente talking about his predictions or whatnot, or his trends, in 2009.

02:37:35.000 And I don't know when would the Christians realize and give credit where credit is due to the prophets of the Bible. 0.54

02:37:44.000 Thousands of years ago of all these things that you are seeing playing out today in front of our very eyes.

02:37:51.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

02:37:52.000 We can see it.

02:37:53.000 And what I really talked about is, what I called to talk about is that deal, this supposed agreement with the US and Iran.

02:38:02.000 This reminded me of, I'm very young, a young student of history and it reminded me of Neville Chamberlain.

02:38:09.000 Right?

02:38:10.000 Within a year time of supposing this peace agreement with the Nazis won't the world at war with the Nazis? 0.87

02:38:17.000 Right?

02:38:18.000 And honestly speaking, like I said, I can only see this thing one way.

02:38:23.000 When you look at Obama's policy towards his foreign policy and the way he deals with the US, his agenda lines perfectly with Erdogan of Turkey.

02:38:35.000 Look at the way he treats with Egypt, where they tried to install the Muslim Brotherhood as the head of governance, and the military had to step in and boot them out. 0.89

02:38:46.000 Look at what went on with Libya, the whole destruction of Gaddafi and his whole regime, and supposedly that was a success, according to Obama.

02:38:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:38:58.000 When they got all the arms.

02:38:59.000 You bring up an interesting point, because You know, I think one of my problems that I have had with Obama even before he got elected president was the fact that he had grown up and spent a great deal of time, his formative years, in a foreign country, going to a Muslim school. 0.99

02:39:14.000 So even if he had an American mother, where he was raised was a very different Uh, kind of value system.

02:39:22.000 Let's just put it that way.

02:39:23.000 And, uh, and did not grow up in America.

02:39:25.000 So he doesn't have the kind of, um, and I think we've now seen this in his presidency that he doesn't have, uh, the kind of, um, appreciation or love for the rule of law for this country's history.

02:39:37.000 Uh, he really does come across as a foreign president and that shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

02:39:42.000 He grew up outside of the country.

02:39:43.000 And I think we need to look at that, the whole idea that we need to have a natural-born citizen for president.

02:39:49.000 It's not that we got an issue with somebody that's from Indonesia or we got an issue with somebody who's a Canadian citizen like Ted Cruz.

02:39:55.000 It's just they need to grow up in America. 1.00

02:39:58.000 They need to have a stake in the country.

02:40:01.000 And I think it's kind of interesting when you look at what's going on now with Bloomberg saying he's going to run for mayor of London.

02:40:07.000 I mean, this is the way that they're using musical chairs to move these politicians around.

02:40:13.000 I think this is something that's being done, obviously, with people who have a globalist agenda that want to get everybody used to the idea that you don't really need to have anybody that grew up in your area that really is embedded in your culture, in your history, to represent you.

02:40:27.000 You can just pick and choose from anywhere in the world to make this guy president or make this guy the mayor of London.

02:40:36.000 That really concerns me, and I think we're seeing that.

02:40:38.000 Of course, there's also Valerie Jarrett, who was born in Iran.

02:40:42.000 I don't know how long she spent in Iran.

02:40:43.000 She's essentially the power behind the throne, just like Kissinger was behind Nixon, or Zbigniew Brzezinski was behind Carter.

02:40:52.000 She's basically calling the shots there, and she grew up in, or spent a good deal of time in Iran.

02:40:57.000 Her father left the U.S.

02:40:59.000 because he really did not like the U.S.

02:41:02.000 He felt that he had been discriminated against as a black man. 0.77

02:41:02.000 He hated the U.S. 0.77

02:41:05.000 So he took his family and he went to Iran.

02:41:06.000 That's where she was born.

02:41:07.000 I don't know how long she spent there, but she has a lot of connections, especially on her mother's side.

02:41:12.000 There's this small Chicago mafia that hangs out really around the educational institutions there that Bill Ayers is a part of.

02:41:21.000 So you've got that mafia there that's a little bit different from the Clinton mafia.

02:41:25.000 The Clinton mafia was about drug running and power and money and killing anybody that got in their way.

02:41:30.000 But this mafia, they do all that as well.

02:41:33.000 But they really seem to have a visceral hatred for America, seems like to me.

02:41:37.000 I don't know, just looking at it.

02:41:38.000 That's my opinion.

02:41:39.000 What do you think, Sean?

02:41:41.000 That's very true.

02:41:43.000 And I was going to make that exact point.

02:41:46.000 Especially look at Umar Abedin, look at Valerie Jarrett, look at how close the Muslim Brotherhood has gotten into the White House. 0.98

02:41:53.000 Look at what happened with Burr Burgdahl, the guy who deserted.

02:41:58.000 And for his release, they released five guys from Gitmo who are known Islamists and what not.

02:42:04.000 Yeah, and it came out that they really didn't want Bergdahl necessarily.

02:42:10.000 They took him as kind of a beard.

02:42:12.000 That came out after the fact.

02:42:13.000 That's kind of the way they're pushing back on this.

02:42:15.000 But sorry, go ahead.

02:42:16.000 Finish up with what you wanted to say.

02:42:17.000 So basically, what I wanted to say is this.

02:42:19.000 I can only look at this one way, biblically.

02:42:23.000 And this is something that is going to happen very soon.

02:42:28.000 Quicker than most might think.

02:42:29.000 I can't put a time to it, but I believe it's going to be very, very, very soon.

02:42:34.000 And the reason why I say that is that this new feud between Sunnis and Shiites in the Middle East that is being fueled will culminate into something very, very serious and disastrous for Saudi Arabia. 0.98

02:42:48.000 Right?

02:42:49.000 And what I mean by that is that what do you think John the Revelator was talking about when he got his dream That he was taken by an angel into the wilderness, into the desert by the Red Sea.

02:43:04.000 Where he talked about the harlot of Babylon.

02:43:07.000 Where he talked about all the nations of the world. 1.00

02:43:11.000 Sip of a wine from a cup of fornication. 0.99

02:43:14.000 What do you think that wine is? 0.99

02:43:16.000 It's oil.

02:43:17.000 Oil.

02:43:19.000 It's all about oil.

02:43:21.000 And he described basically a coming destruction.

02:43:25.000 And this is exactly where it's going.

02:43:27.000 Even Isaiah talked about it, where he said, "...and the streams of Edom shall be turned to pitch, the soil to sulfur.

02:43:35.000 The land shall become burning pit night and day.

02:43:38.000 It shall not be quenched, and its smoke shall go up forever from generation to generation.

02:43:45.000 It shall lie waste.

02:43:47.000 No one shall pass through it forever and ever." Yeah, it's interesting, you know, as you point out, there's a lot of things that are lining up with that and, you know, unfortunately we've got a lot of people who will look at that and say, great, that means that the end of the world is about to come and I'm going to get raptured out of here, so I'm just going to sit back and not do anything about it.

02:44:08.000 And I'm reminded of what Martin Luther said.

02:44:11.000 He said, if I knew I was going to die tomorrow, I would still plant a tree today.

02:44:14.000 We do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.

02:44:17.000 We don't do it to ingratiate ourselves to God.

02:44:19.000 We can't earn that.

02:44:21.000 We've got the globalists who think that they can buy eternal life.

02:44:23.000 That was the top of Drudge on Easter.

02:44:25.000 That's a great placement for Drudge to show these globalists who are out there thinking that with their research they're going to somehow extend their life perhaps forever.

02:44:34.000 Isn't going to happen.

02:44:35.000 You can't earn it.

02:44:36.000 You can't buy it.

02:44:37.000 It's a free gift from the God that they won't acknowledge exists.

02:44:41.000 You know, I think in terms of time.

02:44:42.000 Thank you, Sean.

02:44:43.000 I'm gonna go on.

02:44:44.000 I want to get some of the other people.

02:44:45.000 I think in terms of time frame, they've been talking about 2020 and 2025 for a very long time.

02:44:50.000 And a lot of this stuff could actually happen by then or even before then.

02:44:55.000 We never know.

02:44:55.000 Let's go to Frank in North Carolina.

02:44:57.000 Frank.

02:45:00.000 Yeah, David, you know, I keep hearing all these comments from all different directions about this Rolling Stones report and I guess it's become a scandal and the journalist isn't going to be fired.

02:45:12.000 And then you got lying Brian Williams out there.

02:45:14.000 Some revelations have come about on his integrity and whatnot.

02:45:20.000 And I just, you know, as far as the shortcomings of the state of the integrity and journalism today, I mean, the media in general has been tainted, I think, forever.

02:45:31.000 Um, because, you know, it's like an agenda driven farce every day in the media.

02:45:37.000 Uh, and you got all these establishment, uh, you know, cheerleader type sycophants who, you know, they're on the payroll. 1.00

02:45:43.000 So they're going to, they're going to go along with the official narrative.

02:45:47.000 Uh, and, and, uh, and everything that really comes out, all the major, you know, driving agendas, they're, they're, they're complicit in it because they want to keep getting a paycheck.

02:45:58.000 And, I mean, the most obvious example of this is the complicity of the media and the false flag of 9-11.

02:46:07.000 I think that's coming up on the 14th anniversary.

02:46:11.000 And, you know, the media has already... I mean, you hear people in the media, radio hosts and different people in the mainstream media, people on TV saying, well, you know, Lyin' Brian Williams and, you know, this Rolling Stones article.

02:46:23.000 And they act like they just can't believe that the Rolling Stones would You know, sacrifice their integrity like that.

02:46:31.000 And I'm like, there is no integrity in the mainstream media.

02:46:34.000 Man, you guys lost that a long time ago.

02:46:36.000 I'm speaking to the people in the mainstream media out there.

02:46:38.000 And, uh... Well, just look at what they recently did in terms of, as you had these mandatory vaccination bills pushing their way through different state legislatures.

02:46:49.000 Unfortunately, at least two of them have been shut down.

02:46:51.000 We'll have to see if they're going to come back in another form.

02:46:54.000 I'm sure they'll keep trying.

02:46:56.000 But of course you've got Megyn Kelly on Fox News saying, hey, hey, it sounds like Big Brother.

02:47:01.000 It is!

02:47:02.000 But sometimes you need Big Brother.

02:47:03.000 You know when you need Big Brother is when your corporate sponsors, Big Pharma, own you like they do Fox News.

02:47:11.000 And that's why they push that kind of stuff.

02:47:13.000 And that's why they misrepresent what the real concerns are.

02:47:16.000 The real concerns are, it isn't that we don't understand what vaccines are.

02:47:20.000 We know exactly what active immunity was about.

02:47:23.000 We know what passive immunity was about.

02:47:25.000 That's what we saw people getting these convalescent injections in the wake of being exposed to Ebola.

02:47:30.000 And of course, active immunity is what vaccines were about.

02:47:32.000 The theory behind that is sound, except that now they have added All these different preservatives and adjuvants to it, and when you start adding things like aluminum and mercury and formaldehyde and all this other kind of stuff, now you don't simply have just a vaccine.

02:47:48.000 But they don't want to talk about that.

02:47:49.000 They don't want to have that discussion. 0.99

02:47:51.000 Instead, it's like, just shut up. 1.00

02:47:52.000 You're a bunch of ignorant people who don't understand how vaccines work, and then they push that because that's what their corporate sponsors want. 1.00

02:48:01.000 Something that people have to keep in the back of their mind is the powers that be, the elite at the top. 0.99

02:48:06.000 You always have to keep in the back of your mind, what is always on their mind?

02:48:10.000 Population control.

02:48:11.000 They have to control the population through whatever means necessary.

02:48:14.000 Sterility, war.

02:48:17.000 Propaganda?

02:48:18.000 First they'll try to win your hearts and minds.

02:48:19.000 If they can't do that, then they will neutralize you and they'll take you down.

02:48:22.000 And I think you really hit it.

02:48:24.000 I mean, that really is what is at the forefront of their mind.

02:48:27.000 They know that they're going to be automating 50% or more of the jobs out of existence.

02:48:34.000 Are we going to have that many more jobs set up to create robots?

02:48:38.000 No, we're going to have massive unemployment.

02:48:40.000 You're not going to be able to reposition everybody for 50% of the jobs.

02:48:44.000 And of course, the people that are going to be losing it are going to be at the bottom rung, the people who are working in the fast food restaurants.

02:48:49.000 or the people who are working for the most part in the transportation industry.

02:48:53.000 That's going to really be hit hard with these self-driving autonomous trucks and that sort of thing.

02:48:59.000 So it's going to be massive unemployment.

02:49:01.000 So how do they do that?

02:49:02.000 They have to pacify and control us or they have to eliminate us.

02:49:06.000 You're exactly right.

02:49:07.000 Thank you, Frank.

02:49:08.000 I want to get everybody that's queued up here.

02:49:10.000 Thank you so much.

02:49:11.000 Let's go to Andrew in Iowa.

02:49:13.000 Andrew, go ahead.

02:49:14.000 Hello.

02:49:16.000 Hey.

02:49:18.000 I have an idea for a nationwide movement that I don't expect will, like, fix everything or anything like that, but it may get them, you know, raising their eyebrows a little bit and being a little more concerned with how blatant they are about doing things. raising their eyebrows a little bit and being a little Thank you.

02:49:38.000 Okay, quickly, because we're coming up to a break.

02:49:40.000 You've got about 45 seconds.

02:49:42.000 Lay it out for us.

02:49:44.000 Really quick, I think that everyone who listens to this broadcast should go out, like the Tea Party movement, and protest the corruption.

02:49:52.000 I don't want it to, like, turn into anything that Ferguson was like, but I want, like, a peaceful movement that protests all the tyrannical stuff, the FCC and the internet, the, excuse me, the gun grabbing, everything else, you know?

02:50:08.000 Oh yeah, I agree, I agree.

02:50:10.000 But I think there's more proactive things that we can do.

02:50:12.000 I think if we can educate people, I think one of the ways that we can really shut down these criminal laws and take back our freedom is to do it one at a time with jury nullification.

02:50:22.000 Think about it, if you've got one person out of twelve.

02:50:25.000 We can call that the 8% solution.

02:50:28.000 Okay?

02:50:28.000 One person out of 12 can shut down bad laws, shut down criminal applications of these laws, excessive fines and punishments.

02:50:37.000 You can look at how they're going to use this.

02:50:39.000 You can look at the law and not just the facts of the case.

02:50:42.000 That's why juries were established.

02:50:44.000 Go back and read the Founding Fathers.

02:50:45.000 You can understand where that is.

02:50:47.000 I think we can nullify them, especially at the jury level, because you can get state and federal laws there.

02:50:52.000 We need to take back the jury system from the corrupt courts that have taken it from us.

02:50:57.000 And we need to take back the power at the state to shut down this criminal government we call the federal government.

02:51:02.000 Stay with us, and we'll go back to your calls right after the break.

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02:54:25.000 We're going to go back to your calls as a caller in the last segment was just talking about the need to find a peaceful solution.

02:54:33.000 Of course, demonstrations are always good.

02:54:36.000 People demonstrated at the Bundy Ranch, for example, but there was also a clear-cut goal.

02:54:42.000 There were also Fed up with what the government was doing to their friends and neighbors.

02:54:47.000 And they were going to put it all on the line.

02:54:49.000 When you stand up to the federal government, when you refuse to be bullied, when you refuse to allow them to shut down our legal system, they will back down.

02:54:58.000 We've seen it over and over again.

02:55:00.000 Typically, usually they only make an exception for the one person who is challenging them.

02:55:04.000 That's what we've seen from the farmer in Michigan at Baker's Green Acres.

02:55:07.000 That's what we saw at the Bundy Ranch.

02:55:09.000 We see that over and over again with Corbett, who was fighting the TSA.

02:55:14.000 But we need to collectively stand up for our individual rights.

02:55:17.000 And one of the ways we can do it, as I mentioned, was with the fully informed jury.

02:55:21.000 Inform people of what their real duty, responsibility, and rights are as a juror.

02:55:26.000 And that is to watch the back of each other.

02:55:29.000 We've seen that work as well.

02:55:30.000 And that is a very important, peaceful solution that you can do.

02:55:35.000 Now, of course, you can also, I think, have much more effect at the state level than you're going to have at the federal government.

02:55:40.000 An example of this is the bill that was just signed in Kansas City, in Kansas.

02:55:45.000 This is Kansas City Star reporting it.

02:55:47.000 Governor Brownback, as Alex pointed out last week, signed the bill to allow constitutional carry in Kansas.

02:55:53.000 That's the fifth state allowing that.

02:55:56.000 So you can establish your rights at the state level.

02:56:01.000 And you can also refuse to send people to jail Uh, when the government attacks their rights.

02:56:05.000 If you don't like the way the government is coming at them, if you don't like the way they collected the evidence, if you don't like the penalties that they're going to expose them to, if you think that's excessive, you have a right to shut that down, to let that person walk, and you have a duty to do that.

02:56:21.000 It's called jury nullification.

02:56:23.000 And what you're seeing happening here, In these various states in terms of gun bills, that's called constitutional carry.

02:56:31.000 That's at the state level, supporting what they will not do at the federal level.

02:56:36.000 I want to go back to your calls, but just one more story here, and that is, I saw this story came out of India.

02:56:42.000 About how they're now going to start using drones for crowd control.

02:56:46.000 And of course, this is the kind of thing that we're going to see here in America.

02:56:49.000 But it's going to be much more sophisticated, much more heinous in terms of crime control.

02:56:53.000 We were talking earlier about the situation in Panama.

02:56:56.000 We saw some of that type of stuff used for the Panama invasion down there.

02:57:00.000 They've got a lot of really horrific stuff that's been developed by DARPA.

02:57:04.000 But now in India, in a place called Lucknow, they're going to have drones that have the capacity to carry two kilograms of weight.

02:57:10.000 And what are they going to do with that?

02:57:12.000 Well, they're going to put pepper spray, pepper powder in that. 0.99

02:57:15.000 So they can shower the crowd with that if they don't disperse.

02:57:19.000 If they want to redress their government, if they want to protest, they just drop the pepper spray on it.

02:57:24.000 And when I saw that, saw the drones, I had just seen a couple of days earlier a picture of somebody using a small drone to herd sheep instead of a border collie.

02:57:34.000 And I've got a board of colleagues, so they got my attention.

02:57:37.000 But when I looked at that, and I looked at this article here, it made me think about how much contempt our governments have for the people that they think of as sheep.

02:57:49.000 If you'd had a drone and it was dropping pepper spray on the sheep that didn't get into place, you would have the animal rights activists outraged about that.

02:57:58.000 And I think they should be.

02:57:59.000 But if they drop it on the people, I'm sure they deserved it.

02:58:03.000 That's the kind of attitude we see.

02:58:04.000 That's the kind of attitude that supports the police state.

02:58:07.000 That's the kind of attitude that we need to shut down.

02:58:10.000 Your government does not love you.

02:58:12.000 They think less of you than they do the real sheep. 0.61

02:58:15.000 Let's go quickly to Slim in Canada.

02:58:17.000 Slim, you said you've got some Canadian legislation.

02:58:19.000 I want to give people in Canada a chance to hear that.

02:58:21.000 What's the bill?

02:58:22.000 Real quickly, you've just got a few seconds.

02:58:24.000 C-51.

02:58:24.000 C-51?

02:58:25.000 And what's it about?

02:58:26.000 Yeah, I see you're going on a commercial right now.

02:58:27.000 Did you want me to hold me over?

02:58:29.000 Uh, well, yeah, I'll tell you what.

02:58:31.000 I'll hold.

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03:00:18.000 All right, welcome back to Overdrive.

03:00:27.000 This is David Knight, your host today, and I wanted to go into this next segment and take as many of our callers as we get.

03:00:33.000 Slim David Russ, I think we'll get through you guys. 0.81

03:00:36.000 Let's go back to Slim.

03:00:37.000 He's in Canada, and there is a Bill C-51 that we didn't have time to lay down for people that's coming up for the Canadian legislature.

03:00:44.000 Tell us about that.

03:00:46.000 Well, there's many, many aspects to it.

03:00:48.000 I mean, I don't want to take up too much of your time and sit there and explain the bill.

03:00:53.000 I'm sure all your Canadian listeners know well, you know, know that this is a bill that's not going to help any of us.

03:00:59.000 It's just going to make, you know, a lot more restrictions, going to make your NDAA look like, I don't know, probably, probably the same thing.

03:01:07.000 There'll be grounds because I know that there's some examples of, for example, that That one gentleman, for example, was an Arab-Canadian, and he wrote a text message to a co-worker that this particular item that he has is going to blow the competition away.

03:01:25.000 This person was sent in to the, I don't know, I guess our CSIS or CIA or whatever it may be, and he was questioned for a whole day because of the fact that he used blown away as a text.

03:01:37.000 Yeah, we've seen that before with our own top-notch security forces getting some people that were coming in this country from England, and they were talking about how they were going to go dig up Marilyn Monroe in LA, and they were just joking, but of course they took that seriously, and eventually threw those people out of the country, wouldn't let them in.

03:01:55.000 So yeah, there's all kinds of, as we pointed out before, they will Social media, as Julian Assange said, it's having all of your friends wearing a wire for the government and they will take what you say and take it out of context. 0.98

03:02:08.000 Many times that's malicious, many times that is just idiotic, as you just pointed out. 0.51

03:02:12.000 So C-51 is some kind of a purported anti-terrorism bill or state security bill that gives them broad police powers. 0.98

03:02:20.000 Let me guess.

03:02:21.000 The front.

03:02:23.000 That's the front that they want to do.

03:02:25.000 They want to make it look like it's terrorism.

03:02:27.000 I mean, they had this false flag where this one guy that was drugged up and shot a guy that was holding post in our parliament area.

03:02:39.000 And then he went into the went into parliament, the building, and everybody miraculously was was, you know, you know, basically stationed in the perfect position when the guy walked in.

03:02:51.000 And then all of a sudden this 80 or 70 year old man, you know, made this James Bond move where he jumped around and it was just all you can tell it was a false flag.

03:03:00.000 And now this is the results.

03:03:04.000 I mean, you know, you guys had your 9/11 obviously.

03:03:06.000 A word out, a shout out there to people in Canada.

03:03:09.000 Look out for C-51 as a possibly a front as they are constantly using this to take your freedoms. 0.87

03:03:15.000 Thank you, Slim, for giving us that heads up.

03:03:17.000 Let's go to David in California.

03:03:18.000 David, you said you wanted to talk about Barrett Brown.

03:03:20.000 We mentioned earlier that his emails have been shut down inside a prison.

03:03:24.000 Go ahead.

03:03:25.000 Okay, yeah, I just wanted to pose a question to you in the audience.

03:03:28.000 I was wondering if anyone has considered that Bob Beckel, who Barrett Brown was quoting, has been considered That's a good point.

03:03:43.000 If they're saying that an agent was threatened by that, then was it Bob Beckel who was the agent?

03:03:49.000 Well clearly we know that Fox News is an agent for the federal government.

03:03:54.000 I mean, if you don't understand that, you haven't been paying attention.

03:03:56.000 I mean, they will take the government line on Or the corporate line on whatever is necessary.

03:04:00.000 Just as Megyn Kelly said, yeah, we want Big Brother when it comes to certain things. 0.64

03:04:05.000 When it comes to things that are pocketbook issues for News Corp.

03:04:09.000 But of course, they will also spin and twist and misrepresent things like the exposure of Jade Helm.

03:04:16.000 Saying that we had said that it was some secret document that only we had access to.

03:04:20.000 We never said that.

03:04:22.000 We also never said that they were going to go live with it.

03:04:24.000 Many people are concerned about that.

03:04:25.000 We should always understand that that's a possibility.

03:04:28.000 Personally, I don't think it will happen with the very first one if people stay alert about it, if it stays in the news.

03:04:34.000 But you always have to understand that that's a possibility.

03:04:37.000 I think it is an inevitability that something like that will happen if we don't stop the inexorable or the continuous.

03:04:44.000 It isn't inexorable.

03:04:45.000 We can stop it.

03:04:47.000 But it is continuing down this path of a police state, and they are going to use it to round up dissidents in this country and in other countries.

03:04:54.000 And we should be opposed to it, even if they're doing that type of thing that they did in Fort Lauderdale and other countries.

03:04:58.000 Well, that's it for our news.

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