Alex Jones Show - Alex Jones guest on S Mason

00:00:00.000 They were evil.

00:00:01.000 Yeah, most of them released their slaves.

00:00:04.000 They wrote all men are created equal.

00:00:05.000 We were one of the first countries to get rid of slavery.

00:00:07.000 Slavery is going on in Africa right now.

00:00:09.000 It's going on in North Korea right now.

00:00:11.000 It's going on in China right now.

00:00:12.000 2.2 million women were kidnapped in Eastern Europe last year to be slaves in brothels.

00:00:17.000 Why doesn't Jesse Jackson talk about that?

00:00:19.000 And yet the very people who preach these things who seek to dissect and destroy our Constitution and our Bill of Rights at every opportunity are the very first ones to hold it up as a shield when they feel that perhaps, oh, I don't know, their First Amendment rights are threatened.

00:00:35.000 Suddenly it becomes all-important.

00:00:37.000 Did you notice, Alex, during this last election when...

00:00:40.000 We had all of the vote scamming going on in Florida that suddenly the Constitution became all-important.

00:00:47.000 Suddenly it was on the lips of every talking head, every pundit, every politician, our so-called leaders.

00:00:54.000 They couldn't tell us enough about the Constitution and how important it was that we adhere to it so that everyone could be enfranchised.

00:01:02.000 But they know that we don't know.

00:01:02.000 Right as they're violating it, they claim they're following it.

00:01:05.000 They're counting on you not to know it.

00:01:07.000 And the reason we keep getting back to the immigration situation is that these people, when they get here, are only a threat because they haven't been scanned for tuberculosis, because they don't have a history of freedom and will lay down to corrupt police, thus training them to do it to everybody else, and it's wrong that it's happening to them. 0.97

00:01:25.000 They can be used and controlled.

00:01:27.000 But the travesty is they're not being taught English.

00:01:30.000 Their leaders hungrily want to keep them down using a language that's not dominant in the world like English.

00:01:36.000 It is a plus.

00:01:37.000 What do you think the Japanese teach their kids?

00:01:39.000 What do you think the Chinese teach their kids?

00:01:41.000 What do you think the Germans teach their kids?

00:01:43.000 What do you think the Russians teach their kids?

00:01:45.000 English.

00:01:46.000 They teach them English because that is the international language.

00:01:49.000 It is the language of business.

00:01:51.000 It is, for all practical intents and purposes.

00:01:54.000 A global language, if you will.

00:01:56.000 They want to keep you subjugated. 0.97

00:01:58.000 They want to keep you dumbed down. 0.96

00:02:00.000 They want to use you as a political time bomb for whenever they need it. 0.98

00:02:04.000 I know this.

00:02:05.000 If I go to Mexico or Russia, we're talking about Latin America so much because that's what borders us. 0.75

00:02:10.000 400 million people total in all those countries.

00:02:14.000 50 million already here.

00:02:16.000 More all on the way.

00:02:16.000 The migration is here.

00:02:18.000 If I go to Mexico and I seek to cross their border, they will shoot me. 0.95

00:02:22.000 Yes, indeed they will. 0.90

00:02:23.000 They will take me and torture me and demand $50,000 for my family.

00:02:26.000 That's right. 0.91

00:02:26.000 That won't be called racist or bad as they beat my face in calling me a gringo. 0.91

00:02:30.000 Or gun you down as you come across their border. 1.00

00:02:32.000 Gun me down. 1.00

00:02:33.000 And if a Mexican tries to go into Guatemala. 1.00

00:02:36.000 You know, it's another Hispanic, but you, you know, you stinking Mexican, I'm going to kill you. 1.00

00:02:41.000 Yes, or we've got Mexican troops chasing United States Border Patrolmen into Texas and shooting at them. 1.00

00:02:46.000 We've got Mexicans placing bounties on the heads of Border Patrolmen. 1.00

00:02:50.000 $200,000.

00:02:50.000 My dad has a patient that's a head Border Patrol guy.

00:02:52.000 He said, yeah, it's true.

00:02:53.000 Exactly.

00:02:53.000 But we're the racists.

00:02:54.000 We are the racists.

00:02:55.000 Well, that's the point.

00:02:56.000 And it's supported by Time Magazine of Mexico.

00:03:02.000 Get a close shot of that.

00:03:03.000 That is the white man.

00:03:06.000 See, the man, the man wants you to hate America because you won't have anywhere to run with a Bill of Rights.

00:03:12.000 You see, people every year drive over from San Antonio, big sting in the San Antonio Express News, with a.22 round under the seat.

00:03:19.000 A little thing they forgot.

00:03:21.000 They impound the car, they take everything.

00:03:23.000 You can't own a gun in Mexico.

00:03:25.000 You don't have freedom in Mexico.

00:03:28.000 They're saying it's the end of America in Time Magazine and celebrating it, the end of the Bill of Rights, the end of the Constitution, and then slapping a racial label on it.

00:03:38.000 I'd be more concerned if Russia boarded us.

00:03:41.000 They were all blonde-haired, blue eyes.

00:03:42.000 The point is, the point is about this, is that this is how the world government has taken down Africa, its sovereignty, their countries. 0.89

00:03:50.000 It's how they're taking over Europe.

00:03:51.000 It's how they're taking over Asia. 1.00

00:03:53.000 It's how they're taking over the Americas. 0.99

00:03:54.000 Union of American States.

00:03:56.000 Union.

00:04:01.000 And the irony of it all, Alex, is that this is being done to our population, whether it's the American population, the population in France, Kenya, wherever.

00:04:25.000 By what amounts to nothing more than a handful of people, whether you add it up on a nation-by-nation basis or a global basis, it's nothing more than a handful of people.

00:04:36.000 And as you pointed out, the royal families are often deeply involved in this, and they're actually revered in their home countries.

00:04:45.000 Who was it that said the surest way, wasn't it Machiavelli, the surest way to keep a people enslaved is to make them love their slavery? 0.68

00:04:53.000 Yeah.

00:04:54.000 And that's exactly what they've managed to do.

00:04:56.000 And then they also put on this, they make fun of leaders for petty things where they're kind of little joke things we pat on the head.

00:05:03.000 Clinton and Lewinsky.

00:05:05.000 It came out, Clinton actually, while there's Chinese generals and murders and killing and, you know, the Panama Canal being handed over, the Republicans wouldn't talk about that because they're all in bed on it too.

00:05:15.000 Right.

00:05:16.000 But what they would talk about was, oh, the stained dress, it turns out, from Clinton's staffers.

00:05:21.000 That Clinton actually leaked the dress as a diversion off of all the real issues. 0.62

00:05:27.000 Of course.

00:05:28.000 And now we're not going to hear about any real issues for the next year.

00:05:31.000 It's going to be all this congressman and the dead girl.

00:05:34.000 Exactly.

00:05:35.000 You know, folks, all I'm trying to say is this.

00:05:39.000 The point he's making is this.

00:05:41.000 Africa is about 15 different countries.

00:05:43.000 Some good ones, some bad ones.

00:05:45.000 Kenya's pretty good.

00:05:46.000 One of the best.

00:05:48.000 It has some freedom, you know, tourism, some, you know, the rest of it's pretty bad.

00:05:54.000 The IMF and World Bank has really torn them up.

00:05:57.000 They come in and pay off their leaders to not pay back loans, then to bring down the standard of living.

00:06:01.000 Now they're telling them, you need a union of Africa.

00:06:05.000 There won't be any Bill of Rights.

00:06:06.000 There won't be any Constitution.

00:06:08.000 No.

00:06:08.000 But they're saying, oh, this tribe doesn't want to join because they don't want you to have the power.

00:06:13.000 It's blacks fighting. 0.97

00:06:15.000 It's them using tribalism. 0.99

00:06:17.000 The globalists using tribalism to get the black groups to fight so they can totally take Africa. 0.99

00:06:23.000 And people think colonialism is dead.

00:06:26.000 Yeah, so here it just so happens it's even better for them.

00:06:29.000 It's not just a different tribe.

00:06:32.000 It's Indians slash Spanish people. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Because, you know, I mean, you know, to say that Mexican or Hispanics are a different race, I mean, really it's just Asians that came over the Bering Strait, came down to this area.

00:06:44.000 Who were enslaved by later Indian tribes that developed a civilization.

00:06:47.000 See, it's more complex.

00:06:50.000 Whitey, Mr. Banker, is telling you to destroy America. 1.00

00:06:53.000 Now, I thought you were fighting the man.

00:06:55.000 Why does the man agree with you?

00:06:57.000 You're being used.

00:06:59.000 Indeed.

00:06:59.000 That's my point.

00:07:00.000 Let's see who we've got on the phone over there, Alex.

00:07:02.000 You bet.

00:07:02.000 And then, I appreciate you guys having me on.

00:07:04.000 Sure.

00:07:05.000 I see you've got something else you want to share.

00:07:07.000 Everybody said, well, the UN has clearly stated they want to disarm us.

00:07:11.000 They clearly stated that they want to disarm us.

00:07:15.000 And then the Justice Department came out and said, no, we have an individual right to keep their arms.

00:07:20.000 The U.N. said that our civilian ownership of guns threatens the legitimate power monopoly of the state.

00:07:25.000 What is a legitimate power monopoly of the state?

00:07:27.000 Legitimate power monopoly of the state is what these elitists, these internationalists, love to coin in these terms.

00:07:35.000 They love to say that all rights...

00:07:38.000 All power, everything comes from the state.

00:07:41.000 Nothing is God-given.

00:07:42.000 You have no natural rights.

00:07:44.000 But they couldn't say, it threatens our power monopoly.

00:07:49.000 Power monopoly, what does that mean?

00:07:51.000 It means that they want all the power, period.

00:07:54.000 Which means all the weapons, everything.

00:07:56.000 They want to be the ones who dispense all justice, who enforce all laws.

00:08:00.000 They want to be omnipotent and godlike.

00:08:02.000 And if you have the means or the ability to resist that...

00:08:06.000 You are a threat.

00:08:08.000 And on Infowars.com, I have a direct link on the Second Amendment section to the U.N. where they say civilian ownership of guns threatens the legitimate power monopoly of the state.

00:08:20.000 You know how much blood the U.N. has on its hands?

00:08:22.000 They're a murdering group.

00:08:23.000 But every Miss America says, I just want to thank the U.N. Why is that? 0.82

00:08:28.000 All the Hollywood people.

00:08:29.000 We just love the U.N. See, that's the man, the establishment.

00:08:33.000 The U.N. murders people all over the place.

00:08:35.000 A Nazi, Kirk Valtheim, ran it for 10 years from 70 to 82. Yes. 0.73

00:08:39.000 And they defended him and still pay his pension.

00:08:42.000 Like a death camp operator.

00:08:44.000 That offends me.

00:08:46.000 They came over here and said, oh no, we don't want your guns. 0.60

00:08:48.000 They just got gun manufacturers to sign on to track and register American gun owners.

00:08:53.000 Fox News.

00:08:54.000 Once again, a fine example of how it's right there in print.

00:08:57.000 This is not hidden.

00:08:58.000 This is not behind the scenes.

00:08:59.000 This is not behind the curtain or anything.

00:09:02.000 It's right there for anybody who wants to look at it.

00:09:04.000 If the federal government won't sign a treaty banning our guns, they're going to the gun manufacturers.

00:09:10.000 And if they won't do it, they've gone to Mayor Kirk Watson.

00:09:13.000 He's now on a U.N. board and has pledged a million-plus dollars of Austin taxpayer money a year to fund the U.N. There's a word for it, friends.

00:09:20.000 It's called treason.

00:09:22.000 I mean, and just later I want to read some of their names.

00:09:25.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:09:27.000 Let's go ahead and see who we've got on the...

00:09:29.000 Yesterday on my show, this phone box wasn't working.

00:09:30.000 Let's see if it works today.

00:09:31.000 We may have to air the calls in there.

00:09:33.000 Okay.

00:09:33.000 Hello, caller, you're on the air.

00:09:35.000 Hi, I have a question for Keith.

00:09:36.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:09:38.000 I called in last week, and I apologize.

00:09:40.000 I just tuned in about ten minutes ago, so I don't know if you went over this already or not.

00:09:46.000 Okay.

00:09:47.000 I talked to Jeff Davis, and he answered the question, but I wanted to put it to you.

00:09:52.000 Because the accusation was made against you and who is behind your show.

00:09:58.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:09:59.000 They said that you belong to a white supremacist group.

00:10:04.000 No.

00:10:04.000 Flat out said it.

00:10:06.000 Who are they?

00:10:08.000 I told him last week what her name is.

00:10:10.000 Her name is Sue Cole.

00:10:11.000 She's another producer. 0.90

00:10:13.000 And she even said that I could say her name on air.

00:10:17.000 Well, ask Sue for the proof.

00:10:19.000 I think you ought to sue her.

00:10:21.000 Not a bad idea.

00:10:23.000 Yeah.

00:10:25.000 No, we don't belong to any white supremacist group.

00:10:28.000 I believe she mentioned somebody named David.

00:10:32.000 I'm not sure who she said.

00:10:34.000 So she mentioned a guy named David, and that's her proof.

00:10:36.000 Oh, she didn't say us, so I see now she's safe.

00:10:39.000 No, what she said is, she didn't specifically say you, Keith.

00:10:43.000 She asked me, do I know who is behind?

00:10:49.000 You see, we can't talk about...

00:10:51.000 You notice something here. 0.83

00:10:52.000 We can't talk about the U.N. murdering 800,000 black people in Rwanda and murdering little black kids that I have on tape.

00:11:01.000 To answer her question, just to wrap that up, no. 0.94

00:11:07.000 I mean, we don't belong.

00:11:08.000 He doesn't.

00:11:08.000 I don't.

00:11:09.000 I don't even know anyone that does.

00:11:11.000 And if she said that, then she lied.

00:11:14.000 It's that simple.

00:11:15.000 That's what it boils down to.

00:11:16.000 This lady said she said David.

00:11:18.000 There's no David here.

00:11:19.000 No, there's no David.

00:11:20.000 It doesn't mean Jeff, George, Bob, Eddie.

00:11:23.000 I mean, it's always the same.

00:11:25.000 You know, well, you know, this guy I know, his cousin's best friend's girlfriend told me that, you know, whatever.

00:11:30.000 She means Dave Cameron.

00:11:32.000 Well, we have no idea who she means.

00:11:33.000 The fact of the matter is, she's wrong.

00:11:35.000 It's not true.

00:11:36.000 And if she says it's true, tell her to prove it.

00:11:38.000 Well, we don't know that lady. 1.00

00:11:39.000 We don't know if the lady she says said that even said that.

00:11:42.000 True.

00:11:43.000 You see, this is how it works.

00:11:45.000 Well, let me ask you a question.

00:11:46.000 My little sister's Corian adopted.

00:11:48.000 You don't have a problem with that, do you?

00:11:49.000 No, I don't care.

00:11:50.000 I mean, I know you guys don't.

00:11:53.000 Jimmy Ritter just went down with Snake, his buddy, who's Hispanic, to the border to film this stuff. 0.99

00:11:59.000 I guess Snake...

00:12:01.000 You know, it's like Olga Robles, who is Hispanic. 1.00

00:12:05.000 She went down with an American flag when Mecha was preaching down with America in Arizona, and the papers printed that she was a dumb, stupid, racist Indian. 1.00

00:12:14.000 And then attacked what the Mexican papers called stupid American Indians. 1.00

00:12:18.000 Yet, if you had made that same exact statement, you'd be racist. 1.00

00:12:23.000 Would you not?

00:12:24.000 Well, see, this is my point.

00:12:26.000 We can't talk about...

00:12:28.000 We've been talking about the Ford Foundation funding and controlling, and the FBI controlling the Klan, and all these groups, and then we come on here and talk about how they're stirring up racism.

00:12:43.000 And how we want to stop that, and how all of this opening up the borders of the world is to bring down national sovereignty, and some of these people out here, they don't want to hear it.

00:12:55.000 It's their opium.

00:12:56.000 The best thing that Susie Q can come up with is a guy named Dave and some mystic, behind-the-scenes white supremacist organization, and yet it seems that you've managed to document all the things that you've been talking about.

00:13:09.000 Well, see, that's what they do. 0.92

00:13:11.000 Is we can show them the video of the Klan with a tan matcha with pictures of white people's heads cut off.

00:13:18.000 We can show you them with the communist flags.

00:13:21.000 And then we can show you how the Ford Foundation funds them, and on the public record, Washington Post funded Hitler. 0.57

00:13:29.000 Now, I find that all offensive, and I've put the word out to everybody.

00:13:34.000 I had one UT professor run up and start saying Heil Hitler to me, and I just wrote his name down.

00:13:38.000 I said, Bud, you ever accuse me of that in a public forum, I'm going to sue you.

00:13:41.000 And you know what?

00:13:42.000 One guy was stalking my sister, harassing my family, saying things.

00:13:46.000 We started proceedings against him, drug him into court.

00:13:48.000 Because you will not defay my name.

00:13:50.000 I've got enough money to sue you.

00:13:52.000 And I will grill you.

00:13:53.000 And I will bring in the video of me out there with good black Americans protesting the Klan, and we'll see what happens with that jury when I take your house. 0.70

00:14:04.000 So that's basically what it comes down to.

00:14:05.000 You ready to take some more calls?

00:14:06.000 Yeah, sure.

00:14:06.000 Go ahead.

00:14:07.000 See who else is there.

00:14:08.000 Oh, Florence Erdy. 0.84

00:14:09.000 Okay. 0.99

00:14:10.000 I guess a white supremacist black lady. 1.00

00:14:14.000 Which line is she on? 0.98

00:14:17.000 Hey, Florence. 1.00

00:14:18.000 How you doing?

00:14:19.000 Hi, Alex.

00:14:19.000 Thank y'all for taking my call.

00:14:21.000 Yes, one, I can back up what that lady just called in and said yes. 1.00

00:14:25.000 I heard the call when she called in, and yes.

00:14:28.000 She was told to check into the background of y'all's show and find out who y'all really support and would be surprised.

00:14:35.000 And one thing they misunderstood, the caller was calling in to back up.

00:14:41.000 Illegal immigration saying it was not good for us, and we need to stand up against it. 0.98

00:14:46.000 And they were attacking her as I am being attacked.

00:14:49.000 Because I came on the show, and I'm fighting for illegal, against illegal immigration. 0.88

00:14:55.000 Well, Clarence, we all know the Ku Klux Klan.

00:14:57.000 I'm just joking.

00:14:58.000 I'm joking.

00:14:58.000 But you know what, Alex?

00:14:59.000 You're right.

00:15:00.000 You know what? 0.99

00:15:00.000 Black, white, and brown have the Klan mind. 0.99

00:15:03.000 You know? 0.71

00:15:04.000 It really don't matter by calling them. 0.98

00:15:06.000 That's my point, is that the big man, the man, Time Magazine, is peddling this crap, and they've got us so brainwashed that when you try to speak up about it, everybody attacks you on racism. 0.96

00:15:23.000 And then nobody wants to stand with you because nobody wants to be seen as a racist. 0.97

00:15:28.000 Right.

00:15:28.000 But if my house right now, and this is the best illustration I can give, if I allow five people to come in my house and live right now, and we're living in there, and then five more come in and five more come in, my house is overcrowded.

00:15:42.000 I cannot afford the electric bill.

00:15:44.000 I cannot afford the water bill.

00:15:46.000 We're looking at this happening in the U.S. right now, California, and now they announced this morning in Texas we are facing Well, here's the point.

00:16:04.000 Are we not supposed to announce that four South Texas towns, one of them Elson Itzo, if you fly an American flag, you're in trouble, that you're not allowed to speak English in proceedings?

00:16:13.000 That's discriminatory.

00:16:14.000 And that was in the San Antonio Express News, 10-part series.

00:16:18.000 Is there a white supremacist group behind the San Antonio Express News?

00:16:24.000 You know, that's what I would see.

00:16:26.000 This is what I mean.

00:16:27.000 They've gotten us where we can't talk about real issues in this country.

00:16:30.000 That we can't talk about real things.

00:16:33.000 That the tyranny response team founded by a Jewish man. 0.96

00:16:36.000 You know, when Aaron Zellman went in with Jews of Preservation of Firearms to testify before Congress, the news, the ADL, was announcing that a supremacist group was coming.

00:16:47.000 Now, he threatened to sue them.

00:16:48.000 They apologized.

00:16:48.000 It's a 20-year-old organization.

00:16:50.000 He's Jewish.

00:16:51.000 I mean, this is what they do.

00:16:54.000 As you try to talk about sovereignty, freedom...

00:16:58.000 It's the same thing over in England.

00:16:59.000 They're saying you will merge with Germany.

00:17:01.000 You will merge with France. 0.94

00:17:03.000 You will give up your juries.

00:17:06.000 And then they say no.

00:17:07.000 They say no, and I've been on their radio shows as a guest.

00:17:11.000 People call in, well, you're against the world government.

00:17:14.000 Are you a racist?

00:17:15.000 What the hell does that have to do with it? 0.96

00:17:17.000 Nothing.

00:17:18.000 Nothing.

00:17:19.000 I am fighting corruption.

00:17:20.000 Florence, you've seen me protest the Klan, haven't you? 0.75

00:17:23.000 Absolutely.

00:17:23.000 And you've been having my back when I've been down there, and I've been almost the only black down there.

00:17:29.000 You know, you gave me the microphone and let me speak.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, we're down there going up against the Klan alone. 1.00

00:17:36.000 And then I've got to deal with some moron. 0.99

00:17:38.000 And, you know, I want to investigate. 0.99

00:17:40.000 And we don't even know that lady actually said that.

00:17:42.000 We need to find out who started that story.

00:17:45.000 And then we need to see if they're implicating you or I or anybody else.

00:17:49.000 And if it's a lie, hey, Bob, let's sue.

00:17:51.000 Now, I don't know what she was implying, but Alex, I did hear.

00:17:55.000 I was doing it with the JoJo show.

00:17:57.000 I want to make examples out of people.

00:18:01.000 And two points I want to make before I hang up.

00:18:04.000 One is, I want y'all to think, too, as they planted syphilis in blacks in the past, why all of a sudden blacks, we're a 12 or 13 percent population, but we're leading in AIDS. We're leading in age. 0.75

00:18:18.000 We need to stop and start thinking.

00:18:19.000 Florence, go to Infowars.com.

00:18:22.000 I have major scientist, Dr. Gallo.

00:18:29.000 Good talking to you, Florence.

00:18:30.000 Thank you.

00:18:31.000 God bless you.

00:18:32.000 I have Dr. Gallo on tape.

00:18:37.000 He's the inventor of HIV for the Defense Department.

00:18:41.000 Dr. Lynn Horowitz, who's Jewish, And went to Harvard, but you know who's behind him, too.

00:18:49.000 And he's been on my show many times, and we've aired his tapes here on Access to Educate You.

00:18:54.000 They actually have the documents.

00:18:56.000 This is admitted.

00:18:56.000 It's been in the British press.

00:18:58.000 A few news stories here.

00:19:00.000 It's in my info link section of Infowars.com.

00:19:04.000 And did you know that they put it in the hepatitis shots for the Africans?

00:19:10.000 That's why they're all dying of it.

00:19:12.000 Oh, but they're loving Ted Turner's a liberal, and so is Bill Gates giving $24 billion to vaccinate the kids.

00:19:19.000 Connection?

00:19:20.000 You tell us.

00:19:21.000 But do you see the whole diversion?

00:19:23.000 We can't talk about the UN taking our guns, gun manufacturers signing a treaty with them to do it.

00:19:28.000 We can't talk about taxes going up.

00:19:30.000 We can't talk about...

00:19:31.000 Cops and military checkpoints. 1.00

00:19:32.000 Because you're a racist or a nut or a Nazi or a white supremacist or whatever. 0.98

00:19:38.000 Yeah, all because we're saying our borders wide open and the big money in New York is behind it to bring this country down. 0.98

00:19:44.000 It really is like Bob Dacey says, Alex, if right is on your side, you argue that.

00:19:49.000 If the law is on your side, you argue that.

00:19:51.000 If you have no argument, call the other guy names. 0.94

00:19:54.000 Well, I'll tell you who the biggest racist around. 0.99

00:19:56.000 It's the poverty pimps. 0.98

00:19:58.000 The people that want the immigrants coming here to not learn English, that want to keep them in compact barrios, and then give them the Viacom MTV to suck in their kids to make sure they get into crime so they can put them in a FEMA, you know, Wackenhut slave facility. 0.87

00:20:10.000 And our prisons have doubled in numbers.

00:20:12.000 I want you to have freedom.

00:20:14.000 And I want you to realize the people peddling all this race stuff are the real racists.

00:20:19.000 And that needs to be understood.

00:20:21.000 And there's 400 million people in Latin America pouring in.

00:20:24.000 And it'd be one thing if they tested them for tuberculosis and taught them the Bill of Rights and Constitution, but they're not.

00:20:30.000 They're teaching them that this is Mexico. 1.00

00:20:32.000 In fact, Steve, can you rewind that to the back of the tape and show them pictures of white people's heads cut off, communist signs, and we're going to kill the white people. 1.00

00:20:40.000 I protested the Klan because they said they were going to kill black people. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Now, I want to protest Mecha.

00:20:47.000 Oh, and by the way, Alex, as far as this document that you've got here where you're talking about the...

00:20:52.000 Here, read it.

00:20:52.000 Yeah, let me just...

00:20:54.000 Now remember, that's not the actual document.

00:20:55.000 This is the spin.

00:20:56.000 Sure.

00:20:57.000 Go ahead and read.

00:20:58.000 It's from Fox.

00:20:58.000 I understand.

00:20:58.000 All right.

00:20:59.000 Key manufacturers to adopt industry regulations on marking and tracing small arms.

00:21:03.000 United Nations.

00:21:05.000 Key arms makers in the United States and Europe are willing to accept a voluntary program to mark and trace small arms to help curb illegal trafficking, according to documents seen by the Associated Press and confirmed by industry officials.

00:21:18.000 Diplomats involved in the initiative say it would help authorities stem the flow of legally purchased light weapons to black markets supplying conflicts around the world.

00:21:26.000 The agreement would come into effect regardless of the outcome of a UN conference that is debating a draft plan to control illegal small arms trafficking.

00:21:35.000 Included in the draft is a provision calling for negotiation of a legally binding instrument to identify and trace the lines of supply of small arms and light weapons.

00:21:44.000 The United States already requires a marking and tracing system, but it opposes this provision because it doesn't want to make a commitment before knowing all the details of an agreement, U.S. Under Secretary of State John Bolton told AP on Wednesday.

00:21:57.000 After further negotiation, I wouldn't exclude the possibility of a treaty-like commitment dealing with the flow of illegal weapons into conflict-prone areas.

00:22:04.000 He said.

00:22:05.000 The industry plan represents an effort by manufacturers to create a marking and tracing identification system with a degree of self-regulation.

00:22:14.000 Putting a unique identification on every small weapon manufactured would enable authorities that seize illegal arms to find their origin and determine where they were first sold.

00:22:22.000 Then the authorities could start tracing how the arms became part of the illegal weapons trade and plugged leakage points.

00:22:28.000 According to documents seen by AP, leading arms manufacturers from the United States, Italy, Austria and France met in Paris on June 26th with representatives from Canada, France, Nigeria, the United States, Britain and Colombia and outlined their agreement.

00:22:43.000 The four-page agreement was signed by C. Edward Rowe, a senior executive at U.S. arms producers Sturm, Ruger& Company, representing the arms manufacturers and former French Prime Minister Michel Rocard, co-chair of the Eminent Persons Group, a 23-member independent commission that seeks to control the spread of small arms.

00:23:05.000 Now, the U.N. states on their own website.

00:23:07.000 Go to Infowars.com to the Second Amendment section.

00:23:11.000 And read it for yourself, where they say that your civilian ownership of guns threatens their legitimate power monopoly of the state.

00:23:21.000 Doesn't this remind you somewhat, Alex, of the Gun Control Act of 1968, whereby all the gun manufacturers clamored for it because they were really out to protect their profits, and instead it was, in effect, the birth of all the draconian gun control regulation that we have with us now.

00:23:37.000 And it says the vice president of Austria is Glock.

00:23:40.000 GMBH confirmed the details of the agreement, and it says here it'll be a treaty with them.

00:23:44.000 Now, you hear all this illicit stuff.

00:23:45.000 They believe no one individually should be able to own guns.

00:23:47.000 Who were the first gun laws against? 0.86

00:23:49.000 Black people in this country in the South.

00:23:52.000 And why? 0.99

00:23:53.000 Because you've got to be able to feed on the people you're abusing and subdividing. 0.98

00:23:56.000 That's right, and you can't ram all this New World Order crap down someone's throat if they're armed to the teeth. 0.96

00:24:02.000 It just won't work. 0.97

00:24:04.000 Now...

00:24:05.000 There is even more offensive stuff, and then they have pictures of white people's heads cut off, and then they say racist.

00:24:11.000 It's like they don't even have to feel bad about being racist. 0.81

00:24:16.000 But we've got this Wizard of Oz white supremacist guy back here behind the curtain somewhere.

00:24:21.000 Well, that's my point, and you can't even come to a debate about this.

00:24:27.000 I mean, no matter how many times we go out and protest the Klan, which we've done...

00:24:32.000 Whoa, but you can't say there's a racist Hispanic group out there because, ooh, that might be...

00:24:38.000 See, how have we been conditioned?

00:24:40.000 This is a powder keg.

00:24:41.000 And the real threat's the UN wanting to disarm you and take your private property.

00:24:48.000 Indeed.

00:24:49.000 Indeed.

00:24:50.000 Despite all the documentation that you've offered and many others have offered, both in print, on the internet, on the radio...

00:24:57.000 Still, there are those out there who insist that everyone who does not agree with the politically correct view as far as immigration goes or racism is a racist themselves.

00:25:07.000 Here's the one.

00:25:08.000 La Raza meeting to draw up to 12,000.

00:25:10.000 President of Mexico on a list of speakers.

00:25:12.000 They're meeting in the same building at the same time as the Communist Party in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

00:25:16.000 And I want to point out that La Raza means the race. 0.91

00:25:19.000 The race.

00:25:20.000 And if you saw Alex and I sitting up here and ranting about...

00:25:23.000 Our race, the white race this, the white race that, what would you say? 0.99

00:25:27.000 You would immediately assume that we were racist.

00:25:29.000 And in that context, you would be correct.

00:25:31.000 We would be.

00:25:32.000 And yet, these individuals can say, la rasa this, la rasa that.

00:25:36.000 But they're not racist.

00:25:38.000 Why, they're just proud of their culture, proud of their heritage, just looking out for themselves.

00:25:41.000 That's all it is.

00:25:42.000 It's harmless.

00:25:43.000 And if you're really going to get the evil whitey, why are you working for evil whitey? 0.98

00:25:47.000 And these are the evil whiteys. 0.99

00:25:48.000 You know, Time Magazine, folks, the so-called liberals. 0.99

00:25:51.000 I mean, these people are fascistic to the max.

00:25:53.000 All I want is for people to have freedom.

00:25:56.000 And it's just a nightmare that things have gone this far, that things have gotten this serious.

00:26:02.000 Should we take some more calls?

00:26:03.000 Yeah, sure.

00:26:04.000 Let's see who we got over there.

00:26:05.000 Hello, caller.

00:26:05.000 You're on the air.

00:26:06.000 Yes, I'm just calling because I just tuned in, and I need to get the information on how to find the information on the UN website about the control of the guns.

00:26:15.000 Saying that it threatens their power monopoly.

00:26:16.000 Yes.

00:26:17.000 And, sir, what is...

00:26:20.000 Power monopoly of the state mean to you?

00:26:23.000 Absolute power.

00:26:25.000 An absolute power corrupts absolutely.

00:26:27.000 But every Miss America says they're loving and good and helping all the races as they murder millions of Africans with vaccines and millions of people in the third world. 1.00

00:26:36.000 But La Raza and Metch you don't care about the vaccines there. 0.98

00:26:38.000 I guess they'll be spared.

00:26:40.000 Oh, the UN's loving because Miss America said so.

00:26:43.000 Why does every Miss America say that? 1.00

00:26:45.000 Why do all the Hollywood rock stars say it?

00:26:47.000 Because they're told, if you want to go far in this business, worship the UN, because they're for the people, because the corporate elite's for the people.

00:26:53.000 Go to Infowars.com.

00:26:55.000 There's a box.

00:26:56.000 It'll say Second Amendment. 0.73

00:26:59.000 Click on that.

00:27:00.000 It's also in the New World Order section, and it'll link directly through to the UN UNIDIR Small Arms Disarmament website.

00:27:06.000 Okay, great.

00:27:06.000 Thanks a lot.

00:27:07.000 Appreciate that.

00:27:08.000 And there's their main policy paper.

00:27:11.000 I mean, look, Kirk Voltheim, Nazi, ran the U.N. from 72 to 82. Death camp operator. 0.63

00:27:17.000 Not debatable.

00:27:18.000 He ran the U.N. from 72 to 82, and he still gets a $200,000 a year pension and lives happily in Austria.

00:27:28.000 Now, the U.N. defended him.

00:27:31.000 And then you get coffee in and in 94 kills 800,000 people conservatively.

00:27:35.000 Didn't let there be a massacre.

00:27:37.000 Engaged in it. 0.94

00:27:39.000 Surrounded them so the Hutus could kill the Tootsies. 1.00

00:27:41.000 Machine gun them and they left. 1.00

00:27:42.000 I got video of them raping little black kids. 1.00

00:27:44.000 And they bring him back for another term. 1.00

00:27:46.000 Well, he was head of peacekeeping.

00:27:48.000 They reward him with the top slot. 0.94

00:27:50.000 Now get your head screwed on. 1.00

00:27:54.000 The threat is not a few, you know, FBI controlled moron toothless clan groups. 1.00

00:28:01.000 The threat is the fact that massive racism is being bred in huge segments of the society, and people are saying it's okay as long as it's anti-white. 0.99

00:28:12.000 Exactly.

00:28:13.000 And it's not because I'm afraid, oh, don't come get me.

00:28:16.000 Mr. Black Ski Mask Cop will protect me at a cost, taking my liberties away too. 0.93

00:28:22.000 And I can always make enough money to move to Costa Rica, where they don't care what color you are. 0.92

00:28:28.000 You can go down there and live on the west coast of that place where all the elite are going, Jane Fonda and people.

00:28:32.000 Live in a nice house.

00:28:33.000 Everybody's cool.

00:28:34.000 Go fishing.

00:28:34.000 They don't care what color you're in.

00:28:36.000 They haven't been indoctrinated with it.

00:28:38.000 Not that I don't want to be around illegals. 1.00

00:28:40.000 It's a hundred million of them and they're coming this way and they're getting radicalized once they get here by the controlling Time magazine introducing class warfare.

00:28:53.000 You see what we're saying?

00:28:55.000 Read the Battle of Gaul.

00:28:56.000 It's at your major libraries.

00:28:57.000 Read how Caesar manipulated the French against each other to bring them down.

00:29:01.000 And this is nothing new.

00:29:02.000 It's playing Indian tribe off against Indian tribe in this country. 0.96

00:29:05.000 Again and again and again.

00:29:07.000 And something else about these people, Alex, is that they understand each society, each culture, each race, each nation very, very well.

00:29:15.000 They know exactly which buttons to push and when.

00:29:19.000 They have whole think tanks that study it.

00:29:22.000 And it's just like the Cherokee were one of the only few tribes to halfway survive.

00:29:27.000 They said, look, let's not fight with each other.

00:29:29.000 These guys, you know, they're taken over.

00:29:30.000 We're being usurped.

00:29:32.000 It was bad what was happening.

00:29:33.000 Let's try to learn some of the stuff and try to...

00:29:35.000 They're the only ones that kept any fragment of it.

00:29:39.000 But the other Indians, they were more than happy. 1.00

00:29:41.000 Oh, you'll give me guns and whiskey to go kill them? 1.00

00:29:42.000 Sure. 1.00

00:29:43.000 And most of those tribes don't even exist anymore.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, so folks, all we are...

00:29:47.000 Our Americans.

00:29:48.000 Let's join the American tribe for the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00:29:52.000 Okay?

00:29:53.000 It's better than anything else.

00:29:54.000 And let's...

00:29:55.000 We're here to...

00:29:56.000 And get past all the diversions and the distractions.

00:29:59.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:30:00.000 Yeah.

00:30:00.000 Let's see who else we got over here, Alex.

00:30:01.000 Hello, caller.

00:30:02.000 Hi, Alex.

00:30:03.000 Good to talk to you.

00:30:04.000 Yeah.

00:30:06.000 My thing is, like you were talking about with the UN... Speak up, sir.

00:30:10.000 Okay.

00:30:11.000 Is that the election of their current leader...

00:30:17.000 It's not a public election.

00:30:19.000 Tribunal.

00:30:20.000 Yeah, and that's not right for a, quote, world government.

00:30:24.000 That's not a true...

00:30:26.000 There's no such thing as juries.

00:30:28.000 You can't face your accuser.

00:30:30.000 They can hold you for 30 years before a trial in their tribunal, which the Supreme Court just said, next time we'll follow your rulings.

00:30:37.000 Ruth Bader Ginsburg, in the newspaper, in print.

00:30:41.000 I mean, even smaller cases now in this country are...

00:30:45.000 Moving to, quote, administrative hearings versus true...

00:30:49.000 Jury trials.

00:30:50.000 Yes.

00:30:51.000 Exactly.

00:30:52.000 Administrative trials.

00:30:53.000 Oh, sorry.

00:30:53.000 You can't have a jury in this court.

00:30:55.000 I thought I was guaranteed that.

00:30:57.000 Oh, sorry. 0.84

00:30:58.000 Are you a racist?

00:30:59.000 You're asking for a jury?

00:31:00.000 No, I'm...

00:31:01.000 No, it's just a fringe nut.

00:31:02.000 No, there's a fringe nut behind me. 0.91

00:31:05.000 Back here behind the curtain.

00:31:06.000 I want a jury. 0.96

00:31:08.000 And my other comment with the LaRosa movement is such a hypocritical thing.

00:31:15.000 Because in my life experience, because I live in different parts of the country, I've lived in the Midwest.

00:31:25.000 I worked at this one packing house where they did hire a lot of workers from Mexico.

00:31:31.000 And this is in an area where they had, like in South Dakota, well near South Dakota, Nebraska, where they had nearby Sioux populations.

00:31:42.000 Right.

00:31:44.000 Those, in the Mexicans, and they had a, there was a contemptuous attitude and enmity towards each, towards those people. 1.00

00:31:52.000 Listen, this lady, Ogla Robles, is half Indian, half what you'd call Mexican, which is Indian and Spanish. 1.00

00:31:59.000 Yeah.

00:31:59.000 She goes out with an American flag to stand up to Mecha.

00:32:02.000 She just goes out there, you know, a little Hispanic lady, and they write, stupid, racist, dumb, cuss word, Indians. 1.00

00:32:09.000 I read it on the air, in the Mexican newspapers. 1.00

00:32:12.000 That's my point.

00:32:13.000 Listen, when I worked at Great Hills Golf Course, you know, my dad, I was a senior in high school, he goes, you know, you need a job this summer, go get a job.

00:32:21.000 I'm like, okay.

00:32:22.000 So I go to Great Hills Golf Course, get at work at 6 in the morning, get off at 3, wasn't a bad job.

00:32:26.000 And the Mexicans who'd worked there longer would go, hey, gringo, go rake all the field, you know, all the sand traps and all the... 1.00

00:32:33.000 And to me it was kind of an interesting experience because I didn't have self-confidence.

00:32:36.000 I was like, okay.

00:32:37.000 And, you know, some of them were like, hey, what's going on?

00:32:40.000 Nice.

00:32:40.000 It was like some of the...

00:32:41.000 You know, some of the more, it seemed like the more Americanized ones were more, you know, like the illegals were actually kind of nice.

00:32:48.000 It was the in-between, this new breed of folks that live here but aren't really Americans. 1.00

00:32:54.000 Right, it just means a dollar to them and that's it.

00:32:56.000 Well, all it meant was, was that we can be mean that it was racism.

00:33:00.000 And see, I am against it no matter who does it to who.

00:33:04.000 But it's here.

00:33:05.000 And you better, you're mistaken if you don't think I'll expose you, is the point.

00:33:10.000 Exactly.

00:33:11.000 Well, thanks for your call, buddy.

00:33:12.000 We appreciate it.

00:33:13.000 I hear what you're saying, and they are.

00:33:15.000 The culture down there is very racist.

00:33:19.000 A lot of their leaders actually have German last names.

00:33:22.000 A lot of their ministers are white people. 0.97

00:33:25.000 And then they're all, hey, American evil gringo. 0.99

00:33:28.000 Ha ha ha!

00:33:29.000 And like, you know, their leaders are, you know, Fox is like six foot seven, up here all big, and he's standing by his blonde-haired, blue-eyed people.

00:33:35.000 And he's like, oh yeah, it's La Reconquista.

00:33:38.000 Ha ha, I'm a Coca-Cola executive working for Chase Manhattan.

00:33:41.000 And then the whole thing is there.

00:33:43.000 How white are you?

00:33:44.000 Are you part of the old Spanish aristocracy? 1.00

00:33:46.000 I don't care about all that crap. 0.99

00:33:48.000 I don't like it that they're racist against the Indians there. 0.99

00:33:51.000 Well, Jimmy Ritter from the Trailer Park Show offered to get me a...

00:33:59.000 This is my point.

00:34:05.000 The different titles they've given us, they make us think that there's only one thing.

00:34:11.000 There's white people that are racist and there's loving, wonderful groups everywhere else. 0.98

00:34:15.000 Bull! 1.00

00:34:15.000 There's dumb, buck-toothed, racist group members. 1.00

00:34:21.000 And don't forget the white supremacists behind the curtain back here. 1.00

00:34:25.000 What they're saying to you is, regardless of any of it, don't buy it.

00:34:29.000 And the left, the so-called left, the controllers that want to keep you in the compact barrio, that want to make sure you end up in prison, that want to make sure you don't have a man in the house, that want to break up your family, they say it in their social architect books, American Psychological Association, when they're not out kidnapping people for MKUltra experiments, like History Channel now reports.

00:34:47.000 It's too weird.

00:34:48.000 They're out brainwashing you. 0.54

00:34:49.000 Well, the History Channel is just a bunch of fringe nuts anyway.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:52.000 They don't want you to have the American dream.

00:34:55.000 They don't want you to have freedom.

00:34:57.000 They want to convince you of this macho racism. 1.00

00:35:02.000 The more ignorant you are, the more easily you will buy into this one world global crap. 1.00

00:35:06.000 To a Mexico! 1.00

00:35:07.000 Red, white, and green!

00:35:08.000 We're America!

00:35:09.000 And that's all it is.

00:35:10.000 I mean, do we really not want to have rights?

00:35:12.000 Sure, go ahead.

00:35:13.000 Go ahead, Carl.

00:35:14.000 Hi, have you heard of Agenda 21?

00:35:16.000 Yes.

00:35:17.000 UN, break down both ends of the border, enslave Mexicans and Americans alike. 0.97

00:35:21.000 Go ahead.

00:35:21.000 Have you also heard that the International World Court has said that they have jurisdiction over the United States, above our courts, even the Supreme Court?

00:35:27.000 That was in the Associated Press last Monday.

00:35:30.000 That's right, okay.

00:35:31.000 Hey, but that's not what matters.

00:35:33.000 What matters is the man behind the curtain.

00:35:36.000 Pay no attention.

00:35:36.000 I think it's a convenient way for our politicians to sell us down the river to defer to these organizations.

00:35:42.000 It's not our fault.

00:35:43.000 We didn't do it to you.

00:35:44.000 They did.

00:35:45.000 These people aren't elected in the U.N. No, they're beholden to no one but themselves.

00:35:48.000 They've got so much blood on their hands that we better start asking.

00:35:52.000 Our politicians start signing agreements like GATT and the WTO. Deferring our rights, you know, that we elected them to uphold to these multinational organizations who are not elected, I think basically they're just seeding our country away.

00:36:05.000 That's an act of succession on their part.

00:36:07.000 They're seeding us. 0.87

00:36:08.000 Are you a racist?

00:36:10.000 You don't want to give up your freedom.

00:36:11.000 Are you a racist?

00:36:13.000 I'd really worry about what's happening.

00:36:15.000 You're right.

00:36:16.000 You should.

00:36:16.000 We're being sarcastic.

00:36:18.000 I know, we have a murder in the UN, taking everybody's freedoms, injecting everybody with cancer and HIV viruses, and...

00:36:26.000 And people are going, oh, you know, petty issues.

00:36:29.000 You know, Congressman Condit.

00:36:32.000 Yeah, these are just diversions.

00:36:34.000 I mean, of course, everybody knows the press is manipulated by, like, nine corporations that run the entire print and airway media in the United States.

00:36:42.000 Bought and paid for.

00:36:43.000 And think of what an opium that is.

00:36:45.000 For any time somebody stands up against corruption, they, you know, oh, you're this, you're that.

00:36:49.000 We've got to become bold and just say no.

00:36:51.000 We don't care what, you know.

00:36:53.000 And I've been successful.

00:36:54.000 I've told people the truth, and I'm telling you, I don't find anybody that disagrees anymore.

00:36:58.000 We're winning, and the phony left and the phony right are panicking right now.

00:37:02.000 Well, they are going to wind up on the ash heap of history.

00:37:05.000 But there's nobody to vote for.

00:37:08.000 No, I understand what you're saying.

00:37:09.000 There's only the Democrats and Republicans.

00:37:11.000 There's no one to vote for out there.

00:37:13.000 I agree with you.

00:37:13.000 We're out of time.

00:37:14.000 Locally, we can take over.

00:37:16.000 We can check out the election fraud of Benedict DuBois.

00:37:19.000 We can investigate.

00:37:20.000 Hey, I had fun coming on.

00:37:21.000 Alex, you're welcome anytime.

00:37:22.000 I'm glad you were here.

00:37:23.000 Thanks for watching, everybody.

00:37:25.000 We hope you'll join us again next week on Thursday at 4.30.

00:37:28.000 I want to thank everybody who watched.

00:37:29.000 Good evening.

00:37:30.000 Come on this show.

00:37:30.000 Look at my little sister's Corianne.

00:37:32.000 I want her to grow up in a safe country.

00:37:34.000 But what we're creating is a race war cland. 0.98

00:37:38.000 Now look, those are Mexican skinheads. 0.97

00:37:39.000 That's what that is, folks. 0.86

00:37:41.000 Exactly.

00:37:42.000 And I will not, and frankly, we've done a good job of exposing the Klan.

00:37:47.000 There's little handfuls of federally controlled terrorist Klan groups in every city, but 10 or 15 in every city. 0.67

00:37:53.000 There are tens of millions of these La Reconquista racist Mexicans. 0.97

00:37:58.000 And they're poisoning the minds of the good Hispanics that would become the best Americans we've got. 1.00

00:38:04.000 And it's this corporate system.

00:38:06.000 They've sold you slavery.

00:38:07.000 You ran from Mexico to freedom.

00:38:08.000 They took you in and said, no, no, no, no, no.

00:38:10.000 America's bad.

00:38:11.000 No, no.

00:38:12.000 America isn't bad.

00:38:13.000 The U.S. isn't bad.

00:38:14.000 It's those that have taken over our republic that have corrupted it. 1.00

00:38:17.000 And don't use your argument of, all right, well, you have oppressed.

00:38:20.000 Indigenous peoples.

00:38:21.000 Indians oppressed Indian tribes.

00:38:23.000 The Comanche, which I have Comanche blood in me, oppressed others. 1.00

00:38:27.000 White people came to this country because they were oppressed in Europe.

00:38:31.000 Sadly, it is the way of the world.

00:38:33.000 And then the Portuguese brought in slaves. 0.99

00:38:35.000 And Indian tribes in Central America and Mexico and Southern North America.

00:38:40.000 That was the Aztecs.

00:38:41.000 They were the Nazis of the Indians, killing and enslaving and sacrificing 10,000 sometimes a year. 0.57

00:38:49.000 But does the racist Ford Foundation that funded Hitler, that now funds Mecha and La Raza, I ask you, did they decide to make the Reconquista be a Shoshone or Arapaho or Blackfoot Indian?

00:39:04.000 Oh, no.

00:39:05.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:39:05.000 no no no it had to be it had to be the as text so so

00:39:26.000 so so so so

00:39:51.000 so so so so so

00:40:13.000 so so so so so so so so so so so so so

00:40:41.000 Thank you.

00:44:23.000 Алмайн Мotherap PC PC

00:44:49.000 Thank you.

00:45:19.000 Thank you.

00:45:47.000 It winds up in the pockets of the overlords.

00:45:49.000 I just wanted to express some information, actual facts, about the government's history and biological warfare.

00:45:56.000 We hear all this stuff about anthrax.

00:45:58.000 We don't realize that the U.S. government needs to...

00:46:04.000 We did an experiment with chemical weapons and biological weapons on our own citizens up to 1969 when it was banned by Richard Nixon.

00:46:10.000 After that point, all that type of experimentation was leased out to companies, rather contracted out to private companies.

00:46:19.000 They kept experimenting and still do experiment with chemical weapons.

Alex Jones Show - July 12, 2001

Alex Jones guest on S Mason

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