Ali Dawah - December 20, 2018


ARE MUSLIMS OFFENDED BY CHRISTMAS？ - THE Y FILES


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9 minutes

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1,812

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126

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1

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9

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In this episode, we talk about the controversy surrounding Christmas and why we should not be offended by it. We also talk about why the Bible does not agree with the Christmas tree and why it is against our religion to worship it.

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00:00:00.000 They have this big misconception that we as Muslims find it so offensive.
00:00:04.660 So this Christmas tree behind me, it's so so offensive to me.
00:00:07.660 When I see it, I start crying and I'm like, oh no.
00:00:09.680 Now, what I wanted to mention to you guys, brothers and sisters, is that on that day, a man came and invited me to a Christmas carol.
00:00:36.000 Yes, they said that, you know, why don't you come and join us?
00:00:38.800 Yeah, okay. And I'm going to play that little video of the man himself.
00:00:42.620 Actually, let's watch that first. Let's watch that first, inshallah.
00:00:45.200 And let's see what exactly happened.
00:00:48.460 While I was at Speaker's Corner, I had an interesting little dialogue with a gentleman that we're all probably familiar with.
00:00:57.060 A gentleman called Ali Dawa.
00:00:59.560 And Ali Dawa seems to want to come and speak at our events.
00:01:03.840 So I went up to Ali, I said, Ali, what about coming to the carol service?
00:01:07.620 Yes, I would like to cordially invite you to come and sing praises to God.
00:01:12.820 You are a religious man.
00:01:15.540 Let's worship God together.
00:01:18.440 Of course, Ali turned me down very, very politely, very polite young man that he is.
00:01:23.180 And he said to me, he said, well, would you pray with me?
00:01:26.320 I said, well, I don't pray with anyone, Ali.
00:01:28.560 But I'll be praying to my God and you'll be praying to your God.
00:01:31.260 So then I went backwards and forwards and it was good-humoured.
00:01:37.020 It was light-hearted.
00:01:38.460 And I walked away from meeting Ali Dawa.
00:01:42.780 And I thought, what a terrible tragedy Ali Dawa's life is.
00:01:48.860 A nice, polite, intelligent young man who is zealous and passionate about what he believes.
00:01:59.440 Totally committed to his belief system.
00:02:02.360 Now you can see from this gentleman his take on the matter, how he came and invited me.
00:02:08.280 And I kindly rejected.
00:02:09.260 The reason I rejected is because it's against my religion to be involved in that.
00:02:13.880 Because we believe that shirk is the biggest sin. 1.00
00:02:16.540 So I'm not going to go there and glorify Jesus, when I believe Jesus is a prophet.
00:02:19.900 And we worship the one who created Jesus.
00:02:22.740 So this man came and I politely refused.
00:02:24.820 And the reason I refused to do so is because if I said to him, would you come and pray with us?
00:02:30.460 He said, yes, I would, but I would praise Jesus.
00:02:32.740 I said, exactly.
00:02:33.540 So the thing is, I have no problem with you celebrating your Christmas or whatever it may be.
00:02:41.180 Singing Christmas carols or whatever it may be.
00:02:43.600 To be honest, if you go to the book of Jeremiah, chapter 10, Jeremiah 10, verse 1 to 5,
00:02:49.380 it clearly tells there.
00:02:50.900 This is a description where it says, do not cut trees from the forest and bring them to your houses and decorate them.
00:02:57.460 So the Bible is against the Christmas tree concept.
00:03:01.200 Not us Muslims. 0.50
00:03:03.140 And even if you look at some of the scholars who have given exegetes of this verse,
00:03:09.380 they say that this is not referring to Christmas trees,
00:03:11.780 but even still they agree that Christmas and the Christmas tree has got nothing to do with Jesus or his birth.
00:03:17.480 So the Bible is more against you than we are.
00:03:19.960 And this is one big misconception that a lot of people have.
00:03:22.420 So they have this big misconception that we as Muslims find it so offensive.
00:03:27.280 So this Christmas tree behind me, it's so, so offensive to me.
00:03:30.300 When I see it, I start crying and I'm like, oh no.
00:03:32.820 There's this misconception that when you guys, like non-Muslims, have pork,
00:03:38.240 we feel that deeply saddened.
00:03:39.880 And even at one instance when the far right came to the park,
00:03:42.880 we had a lady called Amy who was waving ham at us. 1.00
00:03:46.000 Like we're vampires.
00:03:47.060 When the vampire sees a garlic, we're just like, oh no, stop it.
00:03:49.380 We're going to pass out.
00:03:50.180 So this misconception out there of whatever it may be,
00:03:53.960 like Muslims have a problem with Easter, that's why Tesco's have stopped selling eggs.
00:03:59.180 This is a big, big misconception.
00:04:01.560 A big misconception.
00:04:02.540 Do you want to tell you guys why?
00:04:03.320 Because if we look in history, for example, when the Prophet, peace be upon him,
00:04:09.140 like for example the Treaty of Najran, yeah?
00:04:11.100 The Christians used to live there.
00:04:12.640 This is one of the treaties.
00:04:14.240 The lives of the people of Najran, Christians, and its surrounding areas,
00:04:17.520 their religion, their land, their property, their cattle,
00:04:19.920 and those of them who are present or absent,
00:04:22.620 their messengers, their places of worship are under the protection of who?
00:04:25.380 Allah and the guardians of his Prophet. 0.59
00:04:29.000 Their present states shall neither be interfered with,
00:04:31.700 nor their rights meddled with, nor their idols deformed.
00:04:34.860 No bishop shall be removed from his office.
00:04:37.120 The intentions being that no change in whatever state everyone is
00:04:40.380 shall be made, etc, etc, etc.
00:04:43.000 Now, the question that needs to be asked is this.
00:04:45.440 When the Muslims were ruling over the Christians and the Jews, 1.00
00:04:48.420 when they had power, they did not do this.
00:04:52.340 So when they were in power, they did not come and say,
00:04:54.180 you're not celebrating Christmas, you cannot do this.
00:04:56.800 Your churches, whatever you had, can stay with you.
00:05:00.240 They lived under peace.
00:05:01.620 Not like when the Crusaders came and slaughtered men, women, and children,
00:05:06.460 like his happy days, in the book of Samuel, chapter 15, verse 2-3,
00:05:09.920 where it talks about God ordering to go to the Amalekites 1.00
00:05:12.820 and slaughter men, women, children, babies, donkeys, you know? 0.96
00:05:15.560 So the issue here is this. 0.99
00:05:16.800 When the Muslims were in power, 1.00
00:05:18.720 they did not impose their ideas and stop the Christians or the Jews
00:05:22.720 from practicing their faith.
00:05:23.660 What makes you guys actually believe and think
00:05:27.120 that when we're living in your lands,
00:05:29.240 we're living in your lands, 0.80
00:05:30.440 and we abide by the law of the land,
00:05:32.340 as Muslims we should.
00:05:34.040 So what makes you think that when we're in power,
00:05:35.820 we did not do it,
00:05:36.780 but when we're not in power,
00:05:38.040 we're going to try to impose this.
00:05:39.120 This is a big lie.
00:05:40.540 It's a fallacious reasoning. 1.00
00:05:41.860 It's actually pathetic. 0.99
00:05:43.620 I'm being very straight up with it. 0.97
00:05:44.760 And I've told them that when they came to me,
00:05:47.040 telling me,
00:05:47.400 come on,
00:05:47.680 get involved with the Christmas spirit,
00:05:49.340 whatever it may be.
00:05:49.880 I said,
00:05:50.200 look,
00:05:50.760 I have no problem,
00:05:52.680 zero problem,
00:05:53.960 with you celebrating Christmas,
00:05:55.520 Easter,
00:05:56.240 Valentine's Day,
00:05:56.760 whatever it may be.
00:05:57.840 I,
00:05:58.560 me personally,
00:05:59.680 I will not be involved.
00:06:00.820 I will tell my fellow Muslims
00:06:02.200 to also not get involved.
00:06:03.780 But you,
00:06:04.600 in your country,
00:06:05.580 you can celebrate what on earth you like.
00:06:07.760 It's got nothing to do with me.
00:06:09.880 So,
00:06:10.260 I just wanted to make this video
00:06:11.600 for you guys.
00:06:12.960 Near Christmas,
00:06:13.840 it's nearly Christmas.
00:06:14.900 Share this with your friends and family,
00:06:17.300 especially non-Muslims.
00:06:18.500 I want you guys to understand
00:06:19.900 that we are not here
00:06:21.440 to take over with the Sharia, 0.95
00:06:23.080 whatever.
00:06:23.820 We're not here.
00:06:24.340 And you guys may know that
00:06:25.500 with me specifically,
00:06:26.480 and our team,
00:06:27.280 where we confront,
00:06:28.360 certain Muslims 0.99
00:06:29.780 who are brainwashed, 0.84
00:06:31.400 Anjum Chaudhuri's followers.
00:06:32.460 We have confronted these people.
00:06:33.520 Why?
00:06:34.060 Because they give us a bad name.
00:06:35.820 Now,
00:06:36.060 just a few things I want to finish off
00:06:37.380 with historians, yeah?
00:06:38.140 These are non-Muslim testimonies.
00:06:40.800 People who lived
00:06:41.620 under the Islamic rule.
00:06:43.800 Not the fake ISIS comebacks.
00:06:46.300 Nestorian John B. Pankey
00:06:48.620 in 690
00:06:49.860 expressed fascinating sentiments
00:06:51.700 regarding the reign of Muawiyah.
00:06:53.700 Yeah?
00:06:53.900 Radiallahu anh.
00:06:54.740 The peace throughout the world
00:06:56.140 was such that we have never heard,
00:06:58.160 either from our fathers
00:06:59.080 or from our grandparents,
00:07:00.660 or seen that they had ever been like that.
00:07:03.860 Yes?
00:07:05.000 Bernard the Wise,
00:07:06.220 a pilgrim monk,
00:07:07.100 visited Egypt and Palestine
00:07:08.140 in the reign of Halif al-Muttaz,
00:07:10.460 866 to 869.
00:07:12.420 This is what he stated.
00:07:13.640 The Christians and the pagans, 1.00
00:07:14.780 the Muslims,
00:07:15.660 i.e.
00:07:16.480 the Christians and the Muslims
00:07:17.380 and the pagans,
00:07:19.100 that's why he classified the Muslims
00:07:21.300 as pagans, yeah?
00:07:22.300 Have this kind of peace between them
00:07:23.880 that if I was to go on a journey
00:07:25.620 and on the way,
00:07:26.880 my camel or donkey
00:07:27.700 which bore my poor luggage
00:07:29.200 was todded,
00:07:30.180 I think it meant that,
00:07:31.460 you know,
00:07:31.800 he couldn't operate anymore
00:07:32.920 and I was to abandon
00:07:35.100 all my goods
00:07:36.180 without any guardian
00:07:37.300 and go to the city
00:07:38.580 for another pack of animal,
00:07:40.200 when I came back,
00:07:41.500 I would find all my property
00:07:42.980 uninjured
00:07:43.620 and in peace.
00:07:45.300 This is non-Muslim testimonies
00:07:48.020 who lived under the Sharia,
00:07:50.580 yes,
00:07:51.220 the Sharia that you're so scared about, 1.00
00:07:53.040 yeah?
00:07:53.340 They lived
00:07:53.840 and these are their testimonies.
00:07:55.460 So brothers and sisters,
00:07:56.080 in a nutshell,
00:07:57.340 very simple,
00:07:58.280 and to our dear friends
00:07:59.060 who are watching this,
00:08:00.060 I've said this before,
00:08:01.020 I'm an Orthodox Muslim.
00:08:02.220 I've made this very clear
00:08:02.920 when I confided to the Romans.
00:08:03.920 I'm not here to show you
00:08:04.420 to call my religion.
00:08:05.340 My religion comes first.
00:08:06.320 I'm a Muslim first.
00:08:07.100 Islam comes first for me.
00:08:08.480 So,
00:08:08.960 now,
00:08:09.620 I'm telling you very straight up
00:08:10.780 to your face
00:08:11.340 the very following.
00:08:12.740 I,
00:08:13.400 me,
00:08:14.160 Muslims,
00:08:14.760 we don't have no problem
00:08:15.880 with your Christmas.
00:08:17.160 Celebrate your Christmas
00:08:17.760 as much as you like,
00:08:18.940 yeah?
00:08:19.300 This,
00:08:19.660 I'm in Turkey right now,
00:08:21.120 yeah?
00:08:21.480 We got invited by some
00:08:22.940 of our dear guests.
00:08:24.980 We're in Turkey.
00:08:26.020 This is a Muslim country,
00:08:27.260 you can say.
00:08:28.500 I've seen more Christmas trees here
00:08:29.800 than I've seen in England.
00:08:31.020 Yeah?
00:08:31.480 Everywhere.
00:08:32.200 So,
00:08:32.360 the issue is,
00:08:32.900 if it's such a big thing,
00:08:34.200 because it's become
00:08:34.920 a cultural,
00:08:35.680 traditional thing.
00:08:36.140 We have atheists
00:08:36.780 and even have some Muslims
00:08:38.280 who celebrate this,
00:08:39.260 which they shouldn't.
00:08:40.280 But you,
00:08:40.980 celebrating Christmas,
00:08:42.120 eating pork,
00:08:43.100 having bacon,
00:08:44.520 sausage,
00:08:44.900 wherever it may be,
00:08:45.900 yeah?
00:08:46.580 You can do as you please
00:08:47.800 in your lands.
00:08:48.380 We're not here to take over.
00:08:49.440 It's just a little misconception
00:08:50.300 that was there
00:08:50.940 and I wanted to highlight
00:08:51.920 a few issues
00:08:52.860 and I want to
00:08:53.660 kind of thank the gentleman
00:08:55.560 who said some kind words
00:08:56.720 towards myself
00:08:57.260 and he said,
00:08:57.740 you know,
00:08:58.260 that I'm a gentleman,
00:08:59.200 you know,
00:08:59.420 I'll kind of,
00:09:00.100 I can be quite a gentleman
00:09:02.060 as well,
00:09:02.400 yeah.
00:09:02.700 So,
00:09:02.960 I just want you guys
00:09:04.020 to know that
00:09:05.060 Tommy Robinson
00:09:05.980 and his likes
00:09:06.940 want a civil war 0.95
00:09:07.900 between us.
00:09:08.620 It's not going to happen.
00:09:09.760 We're not going to
00:09:10.320 allow it to happen.
00:09:11.500 While Tommy Robinson
00:09:12.500 is sipping his tea
00:09:13.700 in his comfy home,
00:09:15.200 probably a million pounds,
00:09:16.780 who's getting
00:09:17.100 a hundred grand
00:09:17.660 a year,
00:09:19.200 making money,
00:09:20.140 and people like
00:09:20.620 Anjan Traudri
00:09:21.340 and ISIS
00:09:22.360 who are brainwashing
00:09:23.260 our youngsters,
00:09:24.200 when we're fighting
00:09:25.000 each other
00:09:25.340 and killing each other, 0.99
00:09:26.120 they're going to be 0.97
00:09:26.780 having comfy teas
00:09:27.720 in their houses
00:09:29.460 watching TV.
00:09:30.860 We're not going
00:09:31.200 to allow that to happen.
00:09:31.860 Thank you for
00:09:32.160 watching this video.
00:09:32.740 Hope you guys
00:09:33.140 have understood
00:09:33.960 this misconception.
00:09:35.560 Hope it's clear
00:09:36.000 for you guys.
00:09:36.820 Till next time,
00:09:37.640 from me,
00:09:38.700 Asalaamu Alaikum
00:09:39.300 Wa Rahmatullahi
00:09:39.740 Barakatuh. 0.73