Ali Dawah - DO WE NEED THE CROSS FOR SALVATION？

00:00:00.640 Well, I do want to welcome you to the 2018 G3 conference and this special pre-conference debate addressing global warming.

00:00:14.000 Just kidding. It's the only levity that we'll have all night, I'm sure.

00:00:18.160 My name is Michael O'Fallon, and I am the founder and editor of Sovereign Nations.

00:00:22.600 It's an organization committed to the rights of sovereign nations and the faith that stands as the bedrock foundation of Western civilization.

00:00:31.180 Tonight we come together to do what so many seemingly can't do in other arenas of disagreement and politics, and that is to debate.

00:00:41.360 To argue one position and truth claim against another, and yet to do so with respect for our fellow man.

00:00:49.560 With us tonight are what I believe to be the best two representatives of both Christian and Muslim apologetics.

00:00:57.880 I personally selected each participant for their ability to both represent their own position with strength,

00:01:04.940 while at the same time being careful to not misrepresent the opposite side or engage in ad hominem argumentation.

00:01:14.860 My job is to simply and fairly moderate, without any biased interference.

00:01:22.500 The men with me tonight completely disagree with one another in regards to the following question.

00:01:33.040 Do we need the cross for salvation?

00:01:37.160 Representing the Islamic side of this question is a gentleman that we have brought all the way from Pakistan to be in warm Atlanta, Georgia this evening.

00:01:51.580 Would you please welcome Adnan Rashid.

00:01:54.080 And representing the Christian side of this argumentation will be Dr. James White from Phoenix, Arizona.

00:02:17.720 Tonight we will follow a modified Lincoln-Douglas format.

00:02:21.900 The opening statements will be 20 minutes, followed by 10 minutes of rebuttal.

00:02:28.960 Then we will have four 10-minute sessions of cross-examination,

00:02:34.820 where one man can only ask questions, and one man can only answer questions.

00:02:41.240 We will then have 10 minutes apiece for a close, and then we'll be handling some audience questions.

00:02:48.560 After the rebuttal period, we will have a brief five-minute break.

00:02:54.920 And as well, we would ask that you find some paper and submit some questions up to the front desk here,

00:03:00.840 the moderator's stand, during that time.

00:03:03.840 So if you just give me one minute, I'm going to head down to the moderator's table.

00:03:07.960 Dr. White will come up and take the podium and start with his opening presentation.

00:03:13.200 Mike, I need the paper.

00:03:17.780 Thank you, sir.

00:03:21.280 I'm sorry, I prepared his arguments for him before.

00:03:24.020 Thank you very much.

00:03:29.060 It is indeed an honor to be with you here this evening.

00:03:31.860 Our subject is one that should interest every person in this audience,

00:03:37.580 whether you come from a Christian or a Muslim background,

00:03:40.980 or maybe even no religious background whatsoever,

00:03:44.360 because of the fact that it separates two of the world's major religions on an extremely important issue.

00:03:51.380 Both Christianity and Islam acknowledge the historical reality of the person of Jesus, the Messiah.

00:03:58.460 But we have very different beliefs as to who he was and specifically what he accomplished.

00:04:05.400 This evening, our focus is upon soteriology, upon the doctrine of salvation,

00:04:11.820 and specifically Christ's redemptive work.

00:04:15.480 We disagree about who he was.

00:04:17.460 Christians believe he was the Son of God, the very incarnate second person of the Trinity.

00:04:22.080 Muslims, of course, do not believe this.

00:04:24.740 But while that is relevant to our debate this evening,

00:04:28.460 we are going to be focusing specifically upon the Christian belief that the cross is necessary for salvation.

00:04:36.580 Is the cross necessary for salvation?

00:04:38.980 For the Christian people, the cross is the center point of history,

00:04:42.600 the jewel of the triune God's eternal intention to demonstrate his glory

00:04:47.220 in the gracious, free, and perfect redemption of an undeserving people.

00:04:51.640 In Islamic theology, the cross has no redemptive meaning.

00:04:55.380 Jesus did not die upon the cross, was not crucified, and hence did not rise again.

00:05:00.700 There is no need for substitutionary atonement in Islamic theology.

00:05:04.940 The Christian view of Christ is considered excess in the Quran.

00:05:09.280 And Muslims often speak of the worship of the cross as kufr, an act of unbelief,

00:05:14.580 or even worse, shirk, an act of idolatry.

00:05:18.360 Now, either the cross is the greatest redemptive act of the Creator,

00:05:23.380 that by its very audaciousness renders all other salvific claims irrelevant and empty,

00:05:30.700 or it is a tremendous slight and insult to God.

00:05:35.340 By its very nature, it precludes any kind of middle ground.

00:05:40.640 It has to be one or the other.

00:05:43.420 So, for our debate this evening, in the very brief time that I have,

00:05:47.320 I must demonstrate the centrality of the cross in divine revelation.

00:05:51.180 We will begin with the writings of Jesus' apostles.

00:05:53.700 Secondly, I will trace this truth from its prophetic underpinnings in the writings

00:05:58.740 of the ancient prophets of what we call the Old Testament or the Tanakh.

00:06:03.580 And finally, we will consider the necessary nature of this great work of redemptive love.

00:06:10.300 So, let us turn to what the Scriptures say as a foundation, first and foremost.

00:06:14.820 In Acts chapter 2, we read Peter saying,

00:06:17.520 Men of Israel, listen to these words.

00:06:19.160 Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested you to by God,

00:06:21.780 with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through him in your midst,

00:06:25.880 just as you yourselves know,

00:06:27.340 this man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God,

00:06:33.420 you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death.

00:06:37.200 But God raised him up again, putting an end to the agony of death

00:06:40.760 since it was impossible for him to be held in its power.

00:06:43.320 The central aspect of the proclamation here at the earliest period of the apostles

00:06:47.380 is the cross, the redemptive act of God in Jesus Christ.

00:06:53.680 Later on in Acts chapter 4,

00:06:55.180 Even in the working of miracles,

00:07:16.600 in the healing of the sick man,

00:07:19.080 it's Jesus Christ and him crucified and risen from the dead

00:07:23.000 that is central to the Christian proclamation.

00:07:26.540 In 1 Corinthians chapter 1, we read,

00:07:28.600 For Christ did not send me to baptize,

00:07:30.800 but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech,

00:07:33.640 so that the cross of Christ would not be made useless.

00:07:37.540 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,

00:07:40.900 but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God.

00:07:44.220 And only a few words later,

00:07:45.840 For indeed, Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom,

00:07:49.440 but we preach Christ crucified.

00:07:52.680 To Jews, a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness,

00:07:55.660 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks,

00:07:58.580 Christ, the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

00:08:02.720 You can tell that in this proclamation of the gospel,

00:08:05.820 the cross and the salvific work of Christ,

00:08:09.120 absolutely central in this earliest period of the Christian faith.

00:08:15.040 Paul later says in that same epistle,

00:08:16.820 For I determined to know nothing among you

00:08:18.260 except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

00:08:22.560 But we speak God's wisdom and mystery,

00:08:24.440 the hidden wisdom from which God predestined

00:08:26.400 before the ages to our glory,

00:08:28.320 the wisdom which none of the rulers this age has understood,

00:08:31.020 for if they had understood it,

00:08:32.620 they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

00:08:36.720 The glorious Lord was crucified.

00:08:39.160 This is central to the Christian proclamation.

00:08:43.780 When Paul wrote to the church at Ephesus,

00:08:45.580 he said,

00:08:46.120 For he himself is our peace,

00:08:47.660 who made both groups into one

00:08:48.980 and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall.

00:08:50.960 How did he do this?

00:08:52.100 By abolishing in his flesh the enmity.

00:08:55.040 How do you bring Jews and Gentiles together into one body?

00:08:58.160 The cross of Jesus Christ,

00:08:59.580 which is the law of commandments contained in ordinances

00:09:02.160 so that in himself he might make the two into one new man,

00:09:05.140 thus establishing peace,

00:09:06.900 and might reconcile them both in one body to God

00:09:10.160 through the cross by it having put to death the enmity.

00:09:15.460 And when he wrote to the Colossians,

00:09:16.800 he likewise said,

00:09:17.680 For it was the Father's good pleasure

00:09:19.120 for all the fullness to dwell in him

00:09:21.440 and through him to reconcile all things to himself.

00:09:24.120 How?

00:09:25.040 Having made peace through the blood of his cross.

00:09:29.300 He was prophesied to be the Prince of Peace.

00:09:32.040 How does he bring about that peace?

00:09:33.520 Through the blood of his cross.

00:09:35.120 Through him, I say,

00:09:36.320 whether things on earth or things in heaven,

00:09:38.940 the cross has cosmic significance

00:09:41.620 in the earliest Christian writings.

00:09:44.680 In that same epistle,

00:09:46.460 Paul said,

00:09:46.900 When you were dead in your transgressions

00:09:48.880 and the uncircumcision of your flesh,

00:09:51.000 he made you alive together with him,

00:09:53.240 having forgiven us all our transgressions,

00:09:55.620 having canceled out the certificate of debt

00:09:57.320 consisting of decrees against us,

00:09:59.200 which was hostile to us.

00:10:00.900 And he has taken it out of the way,

00:10:03.460 having nailed it to the cross.

00:10:06.080 The very reason that Christians can believe

00:10:08.820 that they have peace with God

00:10:10.280 is focused upon that center point of history

00:10:14.120 where the God-man gives his life voluntarily

00:10:17.580 upon the cross of Calvary.

00:10:20.540 In the book of Hebrews,

00:10:21.900 Likewise,

00:10:22.480 therefore, since we have so great

00:10:23.920 a cloud of witnesses surrounding us,

00:10:25.860 let us also lay aside every encumbrance

00:10:27.780 and the sin which so easily entangles us,

00:10:29.940 and let us run with endurance

00:10:31.600 the race that is set before us,

00:10:33.220 fixing our eyes on Jesus,

00:10:35.200 the author and perfecter of faith,

00:10:37.780 who for the joy set before him

00:10:39.680 endured the cross,

00:10:41.180 despising the shame,

00:10:42.420 and has sat down at the right hand

00:10:44.500 of the throne of God.

00:10:46.740 Again, the cross at the very core,

00:10:49.760 the very center,

00:10:50.800 not only of how we have peace with God,

00:10:52.700 but likewise how we as Christians

00:10:54.320 are to live the Christian life,

00:10:56.260 the model that we are to have

00:10:57.860 is to have our eyes focused upon Jesus Christ.

00:11:02.260 So the New Testament witness cannot be questioned.

00:11:05.300 The cross is absolutely central.

00:11:08.240 But is that some innovation?

00:11:10.000 Is it an excess?

00:11:10.920 Does it go beyond the prophetic word?

00:11:14.440 Well, the Lord Jesus taught his disciples

00:11:16.400 after his resurrection in Luke 24, 44,

00:11:19.820 that all things which are written about me

00:11:21.940 in the law of Moses and the prophets

00:11:24.280 and the Psalms must be fulfilled.

00:11:27.700 This is a key element

00:11:29.180 of the New Testament teaching.

00:11:32.220 And in that process,

00:11:34.140 one of the texts that clearly he directed people to

00:11:36.400 was Psalm 22.

00:11:38.080 He directed us to Psalm 22

00:11:40.180 with some of his own dying words on the cross.

00:11:43.660 You are probably familiar with the words

00:11:45.920 as they come across in Aramaic,

00:11:48.400 Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani.

00:11:49.780 In Hebrew, Eli, Eli, lama, azachthani.

00:11:53.860 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

00:11:56.820 Now, as Jesus is hanging upon the cross,

00:11:58.920 this is not, as is often misunderstood,

00:12:00.900 some idea that, oh, he's been abandoned by God

00:12:03.720 and he senses failure here or something like that.

00:12:07.640 He is specifically quoting a phrase

00:12:09.940 that everyone would have understood.

00:12:11.900 It would be like me saying,

00:12:14.000 amazing grace, how sweet the sound.

00:12:16.080 I don't have to continue on from there

00:12:17.660 because pretty much everyone in this room

00:12:19.280 knows the rest of that particular hymn.

00:12:21.680 Well, Psalm 22 is one of the songs

00:12:23.220 of the people of God.

00:12:25.020 And so Jesus is directing us to the 22nd Psalm.

00:12:29.660 He's directing us to it.

00:12:31.040 Well, when we go to the 22nd Psalm,

00:12:33.860 what do we find?

00:12:36.140 All who see me sneer at me.

00:12:38.780 They separate with the lip.

00:12:40.660 They wag the head saying,

00:12:42.160 commit yourself to Yahweh.

00:12:43.820 Let him deliver him.

00:12:44.960 Let him rescue him because he delights in him.

00:12:47.100 This is exactly what the Messiah

00:12:48.820 is experiencing on the cross.

00:12:51.320 This is exactly what is happening round about him.

00:12:55.260 I am poured out like water

00:12:56.860 and all my bones are out of joint.

00:12:58.460 My heart is like wax.

00:12:59.640 It is melted within me.

00:13:00.640 My strength is dried up like a pot shirt

00:13:02.620 and my tongue cleaves to my jaws

00:13:04.240 and you lay me in the dust of death.

00:13:07.720 And then one of the key texts,

00:13:09.780 for dogs has surrounded me.

00:13:11.100 A band of evildoers has encompassed me.

00:13:13.320 They pierced my hands and my feet.

00:13:15.200 Now, why do I have that graphic

00:13:16.580 of some ancient Hebrew fragment up there?

00:13:20.500 Well, if we need to,

00:13:21.820 we can get into whether it is like a lion

00:13:24.060 or they pierced my hands and my feet.

00:13:26.580 There is dispute about that.

00:13:28.160 The Greek Septuagint and certain Masoretic texts

00:13:30.600 say they pierced my hands and my feet.

00:13:32.300 Others say like a lion.

00:13:33.600 It's a textual variant.

00:13:34.820 We can get into it if we need to.

00:13:37.260 Maybe we won't.

00:13:38.200 We'll see.

00:13:38.840 But definitely we'll be able to do so

00:13:40.960 if the need arises.

00:13:42.880 But just consider this text as a whole

00:13:45.220 and you'll see it is being fulfilled

00:13:47.300 in what takes place at Calvary.

00:13:50.720 It continues on to say,

00:13:51.900 I can count all my bones.

00:13:53.340 They look, they stare at me.

00:13:54.920 They divide my garments among them

00:13:57.280 and for my clothing they cast lots.

00:14:00.840 This is the description

00:14:02.040 of what the Lord Jesus himself experienced

00:14:04.560 upon the cross of Calvary.

00:14:08.060 At the end of Psalm 22,

00:14:10.720 posterity will serve him.

00:14:12.500 It will be told to the Lord,

00:14:13.740 the coming generation,

00:14:15.180 they will come and will declare his righteousness

00:14:17.120 to a people who will be born

00:14:18.580 that he has performed it.

00:14:21.000 The point here is very clear.

00:14:23.540 Psalm 22 ends with the vindication

00:14:25.920 of the suffering servant.

00:14:27.920 And this is what Jesus intends us to see

00:14:30.140 on the cross when he cries out,

00:14:32.900 Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani.

00:14:35.500 He points us to Psalm 22

00:14:37.200 and we see the consistency

00:14:39.120 between what is said in Psalm 22

00:14:41.100 and the fulfillment in the New Testament scriptures

00:14:43.980 that I've already read in your hearing.

00:14:46.080 Here we have the famous Isaiah scroll from Qumran.

00:14:50.880 And this is the very section

00:14:52.640 where we find what is today known as Isaiah chapter 53.

00:14:56.540 Surely our griefs he himself bore

00:14:58.560 and our sorrows he carried.

00:15:00.800 Yet we ourselves esteemed him stricken,

00:15:03.460 smitten of God and afflicted.

00:15:05.520 But he was pierced through for what?

00:15:08.080 For our transgressions.

00:15:10.260 He was crushed for our iniquities.

00:15:13.040 The chastening for our well-being fell upon him.

00:15:16.100 And by his scourging, we are healed.

00:15:20.420 We have substitutionary suffering taking place here,

00:15:24.840 written 700 years before the events in Christ's life.

00:15:29.260 That graphic I show you is written 100 years

00:15:31.640 before Christ was born.

00:15:33.700 All of us, like sheep, have gone astray.

00:15:37.940 Each of us has turned to his own way.

00:15:40.400 But Yahweh has caused the iniquity of us all

00:15:43.340 to fall on him.

00:15:45.860 This is substitution.

00:15:47.700 In his suffering.

00:15:49.300 He was oppressed and he was afflicted,

00:15:51.200 yet he did not open his mouth.

00:15:53.100 Like a lamb that is led to slaughter

00:15:54.880 and like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,

00:15:57.480 so he did not open his mouth.

00:15:59.220 By oppression and judgment, he was taken away.

00:16:01.520 And as for his generation, who considered

00:16:03.380 that he was cut off out of the land of the living

00:16:05.460 for the transgression of my people

00:16:08.580 to whom the stroke was due.

00:16:13.480 But Yahweh was pleased to crush him,

00:16:15.860 putting him to grief.

00:16:17.040 If he would render himself as a guilt offering,

00:16:19.240 he will see his offspring.

00:16:20.800 And my friends, I stopped just to say,

00:16:23.060 look around the room.

00:16:24.900 2,000 years later, he will see his offspring.

00:16:27.940 Here we are speaking a different language

00:16:31.100 and we follow him.

00:16:33.200 He will see his offspring.

00:16:34.720 He will prolong his days

00:16:35.920 and the good pleasure of Yahweh

00:16:37.240 will prosper in his hand.

00:16:39.820 As a result of the anguish of his soul,

00:16:41.780 he will see it and be satisfied.

00:16:43.200 By his knowledge, the righteous one,

00:16:44.720 my servant, will do what?

00:16:46.300 Will justify the many.

00:16:48.200 Why?

00:16:48.780 As he will bear their iniquities.

00:16:50.580 Almost sounds like it's coming straight out

00:16:52.220 of Romans 3 and 4.

00:16:54.400 The gospel, 700 years before Christ.

00:16:56.980 Therefore, I will allot him a portion with the great.

00:16:59.560 He will divide the booty with the strong

00:17:00.900 because he poured out himself to death

00:17:02.720 and was numbered with the transgressors.

00:17:04.800 Yet he himself bore the sin of many

00:17:06.760 and interceded for the transgressors.

00:17:09.480 I don't have time to get into the fulfillment of this

00:17:13.180 in the book of Hebrews.

00:17:14.460 And Christ's role as our high priest

00:17:16.320 and all these other beautiful things.

00:17:18.100 But here you have the very voice of prophecy.

00:17:22.580 The consistency.

00:17:25.120 So let's consider these things together.

00:17:27.940 God is holy, just, pure,

00:17:31.560 and cannot abide that which is evil

00:17:33.440 and impure in his presence.

00:17:36.060 God announced his redemptive purpose

00:17:38.720 as far back as Genesis 3.15.

00:17:41.440 We don't have time.

00:17:42.760 I could not even list the prophetic passages

00:17:46.080 relevant to the ministry of Jesus Christ

00:17:48.900 in the time that is allotted to me.

00:17:50.980 But we've looked at two very clear ones,

00:17:53.320 but they are not the only ones.

00:17:56.280 The state of man having fallen in Adam.

00:17:59.320 This is one of the areas of disagreement.

00:18:02.700 The state of man having fallen in Adam

00:18:05.280 required a radically powerful redemptive act of God.

00:18:09.800 The law pointed toward a greater fulfillment.

00:18:13.520 Imagine that high priest.

00:18:14.960 Every time he comes in

00:18:16.400 and he sprinkles the blood upon the mercy seat,

00:18:19.040 there's still blood there from the last time.

00:18:21.180 And he's going to have to do it again the next year.

00:18:22.980 And the next year,

00:18:24.180 that repetitive action

00:18:25.620 was meant to point toward a greater fulfillment.

00:18:30.520 Every person who functioned

00:18:32.900 within the context of that law,

00:18:34.560 if they would but look,

00:18:35.720 could see that greater fulfillment

00:18:37.840 that would be coming.

00:18:39.840 The cross is the ultimate display

00:18:41.880 of all of God's attributes.

00:18:44.680 He sovereignly orchestrates its time and its place.

00:18:48.440 It took place exactly

00:18:49.820 when God decreed that it would take place.

00:18:52.940 It shows his holiness.

00:18:54.840 It shows his wrath against sin.

00:18:57.440 I've said many times,

00:18:59.100 if when you look at the cross,

00:19:00.400 all you see is love,

00:19:01.560 you're not seeing all the cross.

00:19:03.500 Because the love that is seen there

00:19:05.240 is seen more deeply and properly

00:19:07.520 against the background

00:19:08.700 of God's wrath against sin.

00:19:12.820 His holiness stands in the background.

00:19:15.960 The nature of the one giving himself,

00:19:17.980 the very God-man shows his condescension,

00:19:20.960 his love.

00:19:21.540 Remember earlier,

00:19:22.480 the Lord of glory.

00:19:23.620 They would not have crucified

00:19:24.440 the Lord of glory,

00:19:25.720 the glorious Lord.

00:19:27.900 His sufferings demonstrate his deep mercy

00:19:30.440 and his compassion for sinners.

00:19:32.920 He could have called a whole legion of angels,

00:19:35.380 but he does not do so.

00:19:36.640 He restrains that power in grace and mercy.

00:19:41.000 The cross fulfills God's law,

00:19:42.880 which is a reflection of his very nature.

00:19:45.260 And this is another area

00:19:46.260 we're going to have to discuss.

00:19:48.240 Because we believe it is absolutely vital

00:19:50.740 that God's law be fulfilled.

00:19:55.120 Either his wrath must come against sin,

00:19:58.260 or there must be propitiation.

00:20:00.580 You can't just simply wink at sin.

00:20:02.800 You can't just simply say,

00:20:04.040 I forgive sin,

00:20:04.980 without the law being made right.

00:20:07.940 This is a major difference this evening.

00:20:11.620 Without atonement,

00:20:12.440 the law remains broken and violated.

00:20:14.000 God's glory marred,

00:20:15.540 and as a result,

00:20:16.260 forgiveness becomes arbitrary on God's part,

00:20:18.940 unknowable on our part,

00:20:20.200 and uncertain in our experience.

00:20:22.780 Only in the cross do we find God's holiness,

00:20:27.260 justice, wrath, love, compassion,

00:20:32.020 mercy, and grace fulfilled

00:20:33.940 in one cosmic moment of prophetic fulfillment.

00:20:38.240 It is truly the center point of history.

00:20:43.580 Everything before it pointed to it,

00:20:46.140 everything since exists in the light of it

00:20:49.100 and points back to that center point of history itself.

00:20:54.020 So why was the cross necessary?

00:20:56.560 Because God eternally ordained it

00:20:59.100 as the means of his own self-glorification.

00:21:03.560 Eternally.

00:21:06.940 It's part of God's decree.

00:21:09.020 God prophesied the cross,

00:21:10.900 and in the self-giving ministry

00:21:12.680 of the suffering servant.

00:21:16.280 In Isaiah 53,

00:21:17.760 700 years earlier.

00:21:20.040 God's entire purpose

00:21:21.560 to graciously join a people to himself

00:21:24.940 through the Son,

00:21:26.100 providing for them

00:21:27.400 full and free redemption from sin,

00:21:30.520 in his voluntarily taking their punishment

00:21:33.180 upon himself.

00:21:35.200 That act requires their purchase

00:21:38.860 by this one central redeeming act

00:21:42.140 of Father, Son, and Spirit,

00:21:44.660 all who are involved

00:21:45.880 in the cross and in the resurrection.

00:21:50.560 And so as a result,

00:21:52.240 we look to the book of Revelation,

00:21:54.980 and the book of Revelation points us

00:21:56.900 toward the future and fulfillment,

00:21:58.240 and gives us a vision

00:22:00.740 of what it's like in heaven.

00:22:03.160 The continuous worship of God

00:22:05.060 that takes place there.

00:22:06.740 How it's undisrupted

00:22:08.480 by what takes place

00:22:09.500 here upon this earth.

00:22:11.440 Man may rage,

00:22:12.540 but God remains absolutely sovereign

00:22:14.260 over his universe.

00:22:17.120 And there we're given a vision

00:22:18.320 once the Lamb has come forward,

00:22:19.960 the Lamb who is slain.

00:22:22.340 You have the elders,

00:22:23.820 and you have myriads of angels,

00:22:25.600 and they're worshiping God,

00:22:26.620 and we are told in Revelation chapter 5,

00:22:29.340 and they sang a new song,

00:22:31.000 saying to the Lamb,

00:22:33.720 worthy are you to take the book

00:22:36.180 and to break its seals,

00:22:38.060 for you were slain and purchased for God

00:22:40.720 with your blood,

00:22:41.680 men from every tribe and tongue

00:22:43.700 and people and nation.

00:22:45.760 You have made them to be a kingdom

00:22:47.520 and priests to our God,

00:22:49.180 and they will reign upon the earth.

00:22:51.560 Is the cross necessary for salvation?

00:22:55.740 If there is an empty tomb,

00:22:57.740 there is your proof,

00:22:59.900 because God raised him from the dead.

00:23:03.680 This was the central core

00:23:05.180 of the message of Jesus' disciples.

00:23:07.660 This is the Christian teaching,

00:23:10.100 and we thank you this evening

00:23:11.220 for being here to listen

00:23:12.260 to this very important discussion.

00:23:14.280 Thank you very much.

00:23:14.960 Thank you, Dr. White.

00:23:20.640 And now with his opening presentation,

00:23:23.280 if you can give us just a moment

00:23:24.560 as we switch VGA cables.

00:23:28.260 Adnan Rashid.

00:23:30.440 Right.

00:23:31.040 Before you start the time,

00:23:33.260 thank you for inviting me

00:23:36.180 to America to have this debate.

00:23:40.200 I'm always very pleased

00:23:43.800 to debate Dr. James White.

00:23:45.560 I have a lot of respect for him.

00:23:46.920 I've told him this many times,

00:23:48.580 so I'm not going to waste time

00:23:50.180 telling him any more of that.

00:23:53.320 I always exchange presence

00:23:55.820 with Dr. James White

00:23:57.560 every time we debate.

00:23:58.940 It seems this time

00:23:59.720 he doesn't have one for me.

00:24:02.600 Unless you pull something

00:24:06.220 out of your bag.

00:24:06.840 But I always like

00:24:10.460 to give presence

00:24:11.120 to Dr. James White

00:24:12.080 because I know

00:24:13.640 he's a dedicated Christian,

00:24:15.220 and I have a large collection

00:24:16.800 of books on Christianity.

00:24:18.980 This particular one

00:24:19.820 is an interesting one.

00:24:20.700 It's a New Testament in Latin

00:24:21.960 published in 1697

00:24:23.480 and interpreted by Theodore Biza,

00:24:27.040 who was also a Calvinist.

00:24:28.760 So a token of our friendship

00:24:30.420 to Dr. James White.

00:24:32.920 Thank you very much.

00:24:34.120 And I do have things

00:24:34.920 for you later.

00:24:36.840 I can start my time now.

00:24:46.240 Right.

00:24:47.040 In the name of God,

00:24:48.100 the merciful,

00:24:48.740 the beneficent,

00:24:49.500 I am Adnan Rashid.

00:24:50.540 I'm from London.

00:24:52.000 This time I travel from Pakistan

00:24:53.660 to debate Dr. James White.

00:24:57.340 And the topic today

00:24:58.560 is do we need the cross

00:24:59.560 for salvation?

00:25:00.500 Very, very interesting topic.

00:25:01.940 Dr. James White

00:25:02.660 preached a very passionate sermon,

00:25:05.680 and if I didn't know

00:25:07.160 what I know today

00:25:08.020 and listen to Dr. James White,

00:25:10.100 I would have been ready

00:25:11.680 to baptize myself.

00:25:14.960 But, unfortunately,

00:25:16.940 that's not going to happen

00:25:17.940 because I have this

00:25:19.580 to present what follows.

00:25:21.460 What James will have to show

00:25:23.120 us tonight,

00:25:26.140 salvation cannot be achieved

00:25:27.780 without the cross.

00:25:29.300 and teachings of the Old Testament

00:25:33.820 and the New Testament

00:25:34.640 on salvation

00:25:35.460 through works

00:25:36.880 slash repentance

00:25:38.620 or the law

00:25:40.700 are erroneous

00:25:42.240 and or abrogated.

00:25:45.540 Jesus, not Paul,

00:25:47.400 was responsible for teaching salvation

00:25:49.100 through the cross alone.

00:25:50.340 I will show today

00:25:53.320 salvation can be achieved

00:25:55.700 without the cross.

00:25:57.480 Blood sacrifice

00:25:58.280 was not necessary

00:25:59.220 for salvation.

00:26:00.740 Following the law

00:26:01.560 and repentance

00:26:02.180 was enough

00:26:02.620 to achieve salvation.

00:26:04.280 Paul is alone

00:26:05.360 in his notion

00:26:06.100 of salvation

00:26:06.640 by the cross.

00:26:08.200 The Old Testament,

00:26:09.520 the synoptic tradition,

00:26:10.620 and James

00:26:11.340 were not consistent

00:26:12.640 with Paul

00:26:13.320 on this matter.

00:26:15.080 Islam is in agreement

00:26:16.180 with the Old Testament

00:26:17.320 and the Jesus tradition

00:26:19.760 on this matter.

00:26:22.460 There are a number

00:26:23.420 of atonement theories.

00:26:24.380 I wonder why

00:26:25.000 Christian scholars

00:26:25.740 have to go through

00:26:26.520 so much trouble

00:26:27.520 explaining the concept

00:26:29.940 of atonement

00:26:30.600 via the cross.

00:26:32.340 And they have come up

00:26:33.380 with so many theories.

00:26:34.700 One of them is

00:26:35.240 ransom theory

00:26:36.020 and the satisfaction theory,

00:26:38.320 acceptance theory,

00:26:39.100 penal theory,

00:26:39.660 which is what

00:26:40.620 James White

00:26:41.400 believes in.

00:26:43.480 The government theory,

00:26:44.820 mortal theory,

00:26:45.680 and the Christus

00:26:46.960 victor theory.

00:26:49.280 James,

00:26:50.060 he believes in

00:26:52.200 penal substitutionary theory,

00:26:54.420 which simply means

00:26:56.020 that God

00:26:56.800 is very angry

00:26:59.200 with humanity.

00:27:00.100 Humans are full of sin

00:27:01.240 and a sacrifice

00:27:02.500 must be done

00:27:03.420 to satisfy God.

00:27:05.680 It has to be done

00:27:07.020 and that is justice.

00:27:10.380 Salvation in the Old Testament.

00:27:12.000 We will start

00:27:12.820 with the Old Testament

00:27:13.480 and see whether

00:27:14.140 salvation was possible

00:27:15.400 without blood sacrifice.

00:27:17.360 Because Paul,

00:27:18.560 he states in Hebrews 9.22

00:27:20.960 that without a blood sacrifice,

00:27:24.440 salvation cannot be achieved

00:27:25.660 or our sacrifice

00:27:28.080 will not be accepted.

00:27:29.920 However,

00:27:30.580 when we look at

00:27:31.160 the Old Testament,

00:27:32.060 we see so many passages,

00:27:33.420 so many chapters,

00:27:34.260 so many instances

00:27:36.060 where salvation

00:27:38.300 or forgiveness

00:27:39.200 or redemption

00:27:40.320 was achieved

00:27:41.140 without a blood sacrifice.

00:27:42.980 For example,

00:27:44.360 we have the book of Numbers

00:27:46.240 31.50

00:27:47.300 where jewels

00:27:48.020 were simply accepted.

00:27:49.380 Leviticus 5.11

00:27:51.140 flower was good enough.

00:27:53.180 Deuteronomy 9.18

00:27:54.220 Moses simply repents

00:27:56.600 for the people

00:27:57.240 and the list goes on

00:27:59.320 and on and on.

00:28:01.420 Amos 5.18-24

00:28:03.440 why would God

00:28:04.440 not accept

00:28:04.980 their sacrifices?

00:28:06.020 Hosea 6.6

00:28:08.420 I desire mercy

00:28:09.720 not sacrifice.

00:28:10.840 In fact,

00:28:11.280 in chapter 14,

00:28:12.040 verse 2,

00:28:13.180 the Israelites

00:28:15.380 state that

00:28:16.400 we will offer

00:28:17.260 sacrifices

00:28:18.280 from our lips.

00:28:19.280 We will offer

00:28:19.820 the bulls

00:28:20.980 of our lips.

00:28:21.640 We cannot

00:28:22.060 offer bulls anymore

00:28:23.740 as blood sacrifice.

00:28:25.060 For that reason,

00:28:25.980 we will simply

00:28:26.600 repent from our lips

00:28:28.020 and we hope

00:28:29.100 for

00:28:29.820 forgiveness.

00:28:32.800 And

00:28:33.400 there are so many

00:28:34.820 instances

00:28:35.280 in the Old Testament

00:28:36.580 where I can simply

00:28:38.080 go on and on

00:28:38.780 and on

00:28:39.020 and talk about

00:28:39.840 salvation

00:28:41.400 or redemption

00:28:42.220 or forgiveness

00:28:43.080 is achieved

00:28:43.940 without blood sacrifice.

00:28:47.000 Now in the book

00:28:47.940 of Ezekiel

00:28:48.500 chapter 18

00:28:49.540 verse 21-23

00:28:51.260 we read

00:28:51.940 but if a wicked man

00:28:53.700 turns away

00:28:54.460 from all

00:28:55.180 the sins

00:28:55.960 he has committed

00:28:56.940 and keeps

00:28:57.500 all my decrees

00:28:58.820 and does what is just

00:29:00.000 and right

00:29:00.720 he will surely live

00:29:01.780 he will not die

00:29:02.920 none of the offenses

00:29:04.200 he has committed

00:29:05.160 will be remembered

00:29:06.100 against him

00:29:06.760 because of the

00:29:07.540 righteous things

00:29:08.500 he has done

00:29:09.260 he will live.

00:29:10.180 Simply

00:29:10.480 he will follow

00:29:11.940 the law

00:29:12.420 and he will live.

00:29:13.820 There is no need

00:29:14.520 for a blood sacrifice

00:29:15.620 you simply repent

00:29:16.860 you follow the law

00:29:18.320 the rules

00:29:19.060 the commandments

00:29:19.600 of God

00:29:20.160 and you will be forgiven.

00:29:21.680 This is exactly

00:29:22.380 what Islam teaches

00:29:23.260 and we will see

00:29:24.920 in due course

00:29:25.520 how Islam

00:29:26.300 is very consistent

00:29:28.420 with what the

00:29:29.300 Old Testament teaches

00:29:30.140 and what Jesus

00:29:31.100 is thought

00:29:32.040 to have taught.

00:29:34.060 When we come

00:29:34.840 to the New Testament

00:29:35.480 the Gospel of Matthew

00:29:37.000 is a very interesting one

00:29:37.980 it is often called

00:29:39.720 the Gospel of the Law

00:29:41.020 because it talks

00:29:42.180 about the Law so much

00:29:43.300 Jesus puts so much

00:29:44.660 stress on following

00:29:46.560 the Law

00:29:47.060 and when a young man

00:29:49.000 came to Jesus

00:29:49.660 in the Gospel of Matthew

00:29:51.120 we are told

00:29:51.760 he asks Jesus

00:29:52.980 what is good for me

00:29:54.800 what do I do

00:29:55.620 to achieve salvation

00:29:57.420 or success

00:29:58.360 to achieve eternal life

00:30:00.360 and Jesus tells him

00:30:01.520 to follow the commandments

00:30:02.880 simply follow the commandments

00:30:05.140 and you will have success.

00:30:07.120 Here is the point

00:30:08.180 where Jesus

00:30:08.600 should have told him

00:30:09.280 I have come

00:30:10.140 to redeem you

00:30:11.320 to free you

00:30:12.240 from sin

00:30:12.740 to get you

00:30:15.060 your redemption

00:30:15.780 but he doesn't

00:30:17.280 tell him that

00:30:17.840 there is another instance

00:30:19.500 where we have

00:30:20.320 debated

00:30:21.120 Christian scholars

00:30:22.960 and

00:30:23.660 activists

00:30:25.360 as to why

00:30:27.100 Jesus cannot be God

00:30:28.320 because he

00:30:29.700 missed many

00:30:31.140 golden opportunities

00:30:32.200 to teach that

00:30:33.520 to his followers

00:30:34.120 and he never taught that

00:30:35.280 in the Gospel of Mark

00:30:36.420 chapter 29

00:30:37.580 verse 12

00:30:38.100 we are told

00:30:38.760 that a Jewish man

00:30:40.120 he comes to Jesus

00:30:41.380 and asks him

00:30:42.080 what is the first commandment

00:30:43.460 and Jesus tells him

00:30:44.540 hear O Israel

00:30:44.960 the Lord our God

00:30:45.780 is one God

00:30:47.440 worship thy Lord

00:30:48.660 with all thy heart

00:30:49.440 with all thy mind

00:30:50.480 with all thy soul

00:30:51.840 this is the point

00:30:53.080 where Jesus

00:30:53.680 could have taught him

00:30:54.540 I am

00:30:55.280 the second person

00:30:57.380 in the Trinity

00:30:58.000 that is the Holy Spirit

00:30:59.340 as well

00:30:59.780 the Jewish people

00:31:01.780 have been worshipping

00:31:02.760 one God

00:31:03.600 in one person

00:31:04.540 or in one being

00:31:06.560 and you only knew

00:31:08.620 one person

00:31:09.220 that's the Father

00:31:09.900 now things have changed

00:31:11.240 new covenant

00:31:11.820 has come across

00:31:12.560 and there are

00:31:13.900 two more persons

00:31:14.620 you have to worship

00:31:15.300 Jesus didn't do that

00:31:16.320 likewise

00:31:17.100 in the book of Matthew

00:31:17.860 when this young man

00:31:18.600 comes to Jesus

00:31:19.140 he asks him

00:31:20.440 about salvation

00:31:21.460 about eternal life

00:31:22.500 and Jesus tells him

00:31:23.180 simply follow

00:31:24.320 the commandments

00:31:25.020 follow the law

00:31:25.920 and then in the

00:31:28.700 gospel of Matthew

00:31:30.100 we are told

00:31:31.440 that you will

00:31:32.300 never enter

00:31:33.740 the kingdom of heaven

00:31:34.640 if you do not

00:31:35.580 follow the commandments

00:31:36.300 of God

00:31:36.880 so

00:31:39.420 you can either

00:31:41.360 achieve

00:31:42.060 eternal paradise

00:31:43.820 or hellfire

00:31:45.160 by doing charity

00:31:47.020 or not doing charity

00:31:48.160 again in the gospel

00:31:49.480 of Matthew

00:31:49.900 so we can go on

00:31:51.360 and on and on

00:31:51.920 talking about

00:31:52.820 the gospel of Matthew

00:31:53.600 where Jesus Christ

00:31:54.540 actually talks about

00:31:55.940 the importance of law

00:31:57.060 salvation through the law

00:31:58.500 in fact

00:31:58.980 in chapter 5

00:32:00.260 verse 17

00:32:01.780 Jesus

00:32:02.500 is

00:32:03.420 believed

00:32:04.520 to have said

00:32:05.400 that

00:32:05.860 think not

00:32:06.640 I've come to abolish

00:32:07.500 the law

00:32:07.920 rather

00:32:08.360 I've come to

00:32:09.240 fulfill the law

00:32:09.940 and anyone

00:32:11.720 who teaches you

00:32:12.700 to go away

00:32:13.740 from the law

00:32:14.200 even on a minor point

00:32:15.520 or on one point

00:32:16.860 will be considered

00:32:17.820 considered least

00:32:19.220 in the kingdom

00:32:19.700 of heaven

00:32:20.500 and we will see

00:32:21.040 what Paul did

00:32:21.760 later on

00:32:22.440 Paul

00:32:23.540 completely broke

00:32:24.760 away

00:32:25.060 from the Jewish law

00:32:26.660 and he preached

00:32:27.800 that

00:32:28.120 that only faith

00:32:29.520 in the cross

00:32:30.220 or faith

00:32:31.320 in the sacrifice

00:32:32.040 of Jesus Christ

00:32:32.780 is enough

00:32:33.640 for salvation

00:32:34.360 you do not have

00:32:35.680 to follow the law

00:32:36.460 Paul was very clear

00:32:37.620 on that point

00:32:38.300 the gospel of Luke

00:32:41.000 and Acts

00:32:41.620 Luke

00:32:42.740 was written

00:32:44.460 apparently

00:32:45.300 or allegedly

00:32:46.200 by Luke

00:32:46.780 and the book

00:32:48.300 of Acts

00:32:48.680 is also attributed

00:32:49.760 to a man

00:32:50.300 called Luke

00:32:50.840 whether Luke

00:32:52.300 actually wrote

00:32:52.860 the gospel

00:32:53.380 or the book

00:32:54.320 of Acts

00:32:54.720 is another

00:32:55.480 question altogether

00:32:56.200 and myself

00:32:57.460 and Dr. James White

00:32:58.360 can debate

00:32:59.600 this topic

00:33:00.180 and at the time

00:33:00.820 the canon

00:33:02.120 and the authorship

00:33:03.280 of the gospels

00:33:04.140 and the controversy

00:33:06.120 about the authorship

00:33:07.020 I'm not going

00:33:08.120 to go into that

00:33:08.920 let's assume

00:33:09.540 for a second

00:33:10.160 or for the debate

00:33:11.240 for the sake

00:33:12.020 of the discussion

00:33:12.580 that Luke

00:33:13.920 was indeed

00:33:14.540 written by a man

00:33:15.440 called Luke

00:33:15.960 although these

00:33:17.100 attributions

00:33:17.580 were made

00:33:18.180 to these authors

00:33:19.620 or these individuals

00:33:20.700 in the mid

00:33:22.360 second century

00:33:23.340 years after

00:33:24.660 these documents

00:33:25.260 were written

00:33:25.620 and almost

00:33:27.000 all major

00:33:27.900 Christian scholars

00:33:28.600 are unanimous

00:33:29.160 on the point

00:33:29.560 and I'm not

00:33:29.940 talking about

00:33:30.440 liberal scholars

00:33:31.780 I'm talking about

00:33:32.480 conservative scholars

00:33:33.360 they are unanimous

00:33:34.580 that these documents

00:33:35.760 were initially

00:33:36.260 written as

00:33:37.320 synonymous

00:33:38.520 sorry

00:33:39.200 anonymous

00:33:39.740 documents

00:33:41.360 so Luke

00:33:43.140 amazingly omits

00:33:45.560 when he copies

00:33:46.260 from Mark

00:33:46.800 and this is

00:33:47.360 another theory

00:33:47.900 which scholars

00:33:48.460 follow

00:33:48.820 that Luke

00:33:49.780 and Matthew

00:33:50.320 they plagiarized

00:33:51.940 from Mark

00:33:52.520 much of the

00:33:53.320 information

00:33:53.780 they put

00:33:54.260 into the gospels

00:33:55.060 and when it

00:33:56.120 comes to

00:33:56.780 copying

00:33:57.680 from Mark

00:33:58.440 chapter 10

00:33:59.560 verse 45

00:34:00.300 Luke

00:34:01.240 amazingly

00:34:02.140 omits

00:34:02.660 the

00:34:03.460 salvific

00:34:04.460 formula

00:34:05.480 he doesn't

00:34:06.440 talk about

00:34:07.360 and to give

00:34:08.340 his life

00:34:08.960 a ransom

00:34:10.240 for many

00:34:11.040 in the gospel

00:34:12.360 of Mark

00:34:12.700 chapter 10

00:34:13.360 verse 45

00:34:14.880 we read

00:34:16.220 this part

00:34:17.020 but in the

00:34:17.700 gospel of Luke

00:34:18.560 we do not

00:34:19.980 see this part

00:34:20.620 he simply

00:34:21.200 omits it

00:34:21.760 I wonder

00:34:23.160 why

00:34:23.480 so

00:34:25.440 even in

00:34:26.720 the book

00:34:27.100 of Acts

00:34:27.620 omission of

00:34:28.960 vicarious

00:34:29.460 atonement

00:34:30.000 in Acts

00:34:30.640 is

00:34:31.980 very visible

00:34:33.200 to scholars

00:34:33.860 scholars have

00:34:34.800 picked on that

00:34:35.600 and they have

00:34:36.280 highlighted the

00:34:36.820 point that

00:34:37.320 the book of Acts

00:34:38.600 doesn't put

00:34:39.500 much stress on

00:34:40.580 atonement

00:34:41.600 by the cross

00:34:43.600 one example

00:34:46.160 is when

00:34:46.720 the story

00:34:47.960 of the

00:34:48.320 Ethiopian

00:34:48.860 eunuch

00:34:49.340 is told

00:34:49.980 and he's

00:34:51.540 reading

00:34:51.860 parts of

00:34:52.780 Isaiah 53

00:34:53.700 and he asks

00:34:54.940 Philip

00:34:55.340 as to what

00:34:55.940 this means

00:34:56.520 and Philip

00:34:57.480 starts to

00:34:58.620 preach to him

00:34:59.420 about Jesus

00:35:00.360 without telling

00:35:01.040 him that this

00:35:01.580 is actually

00:35:02.100 talking about

00:35:02.820 the sacrifice

00:35:03.940 of Jesus

00:35:04.420 on the cross

00:35:05.040 and that

00:35:06.220 sacrifice

00:35:06.720 will atone

00:35:07.420 for your sins

00:35:08.100 you will

00:35:08.880 have salvation

00:35:09.940 through that

00:35:10.480 Jesus

00:35:11.080 doesn't go

00:35:11.580 into that

00:35:12.580 sorry

00:35:13.020 Philip

00:35:13.300 doesn't go

00:35:13.720 into that

00:35:14.160 so this

00:35:15.480 is a problem

00:35:16.040 why

00:35:17.120 would

00:35:17.800 Luke

00:35:18.480 if Luke

00:35:19.100 is the author

00:35:19.640 of these

00:35:19.960 two documents

00:35:20.580 the book

00:35:20.900 of Luke

00:35:21.740 and the book

00:35:22.640 of Acts

00:35:23.140 why

00:35:23.900 does he not

00:35:24.800 put stress

00:35:25.400 on the

00:35:26.580 issue

00:35:26.820 of atonement

00:35:27.540 rather

00:35:29.200 the central

00:35:30.720 point in the

00:35:31.360 gospel of Luke

00:35:31.940 is that Jesus

00:35:32.620 died as an

00:35:33.800 innocent man

00:35:34.440 he was killed

00:35:35.920 by the Jewish

00:35:38.000 scribes

00:35:38.800 and priests

00:35:39.400 innocently

00:35:40.640 and that

00:35:41.320 is the

00:35:41.640 point of

00:35:41.960 the gospel

00:35:42.300 of Luke

00:35:42.660 this is

00:35:43.160 what we

00:35:43.420 see

00:35:43.760 as

00:35:44.540 the

00:35:45.100 prominent

00:35:45.600 idea

00:35:46.960 which Luke

00:35:47.560 wants to

00:35:47.980 discuss

00:35:48.400 in these

00:35:48.860 documents

00:35:49.340 at no

00:35:51.640 place

00:35:52.040 does Luke

00:35:52.680 state

00:35:53.340 Jesus

00:35:53.780 died

00:35:54.320 for you

00:35:54.880 or for

00:35:55.700 your sins

00:35:56.220 even speeches

00:35:57.000 and acts

00:35:57.520 do not

00:35:57.900 contain

00:35:58.380 the atonement

00:35:59.480 theology

00:36:00.020 who thinks

00:36:00.820 so

00:36:01.100 Dr. James

00:36:02.480 D.G.

00:36:03.540 Dunn

00:36:04.500 I think

00:36:05.120 Dr. White

00:36:06.420 will

00:36:06.720 he will

00:36:09.020 sorry

00:36:09.860 right

00:36:11.080 no problem

00:36:11.820 Dr. White

00:36:14.100 sorry

00:36:15.100 yeah

00:36:20.780 that's fine

00:36:21.320 no problem

00:36:21.700 okay

00:36:22.160 so James

00:36:23.900 D.G.

00:36:24.280 Dunn

00:36:24.580 he talks

00:36:25.320 about

00:36:25.740 this problem

00:36:27.980 the problem

00:36:29.000 Luke

00:36:29.480 not talking

00:36:30.040 about

00:36:30.620 atonement

00:36:31.180 an important

00:36:32.160 corollary

00:36:33.320 to the

00:36:34.100 acts

00:36:34.380 sermons

00:36:34.880 concentration

00:36:35.460 on the

00:36:36.460 resurrection

00:36:36.920 is the

00:36:37.760 absence

00:36:38.020 of any

00:36:38.400 theology

00:36:38.740 of the

00:36:39.040 death

00:36:39.280 of Jesus

00:36:39.900 his death

00:36:40.440 is mentioned

00:36:40.980 but only

00:36:41.640 as a

00:36:41.980 bare fact

00:36:42.500 usually

00:36:43.080 highlighting

00:36:43.600 Jewish

00:36:43.900 responsibility

00:36:44.580 the

00:36:45.360 historical

00:36:45.780 fact

00:36:46.740 is not

00:36:47.260 interpreted

00:36:47.920 it is

00:36:48.880 never

00:36:49.080 said

00:36:49.360 for example

00:36:49.980 that Jesus

00:36:50.520 died

00:36:51.140 on our

00:36:52.040 behalf

00:36:52.440 or for

00:36:53.020 our

00:36:53.280 sins

00:36:53.580 there are

00:36:54.440 no

00:36:54.740 suggestions

00:36:55.180 that

00:36:55.500 Jesus

00:36:55.800 death

00:36:56.260 was a

00:36:56.920 sacrifice

00:36:57.420 in other

00:36:58.080 words

00:36:58.360 in the

00:36:59.140 synoptic

00:36:59.560 tradition

00:36:59.940 we find

00:37:00.800 very little

00:37:01.700 evidence

00:37:02.320 or very

00:37:02.860 little

00:37:03.360 stress

00:37:03.840 on

00:37:04.560 the

00:37:05.080 sacrifice

00:37:05.560 of

00:37:05.940 Jesus

00:37:06.180 on

00:37:06.400 the

00:37:06.540 cross

00:37:06.860 that

00:37:07.580 we

00:37:07.760 find

00:37:08.260 in

00:37:08.540 the

00:37:08.680 writings

00:37:09.000 of

00:37:09.240 Paul

00:37:09.580 not

00:37:10.620 in

00:37:10.820 the

00:37:10.960 synoptic

00:37:11.320 tradition

00:37:11.680 and

00:37:13.160 in

00:37:13.980 the

00:37:14.100 gospel

00:37:14.340 of

00:37:14.480 Matthew

00:37:14.740 as

00:37:15.180 already

00:37:15.500 clarified

00:37:15.960 we

00:37:16.600 find

00:37:17.000 a lot

00:37:17.340 of

00:37:17.440 stress

00:37:17.680 on

00:37:17.820 the

00:37:17.940 law

00:37:18.180 following

00:37:18.640 the

00:37:18.860 law

00:37:19.080 and

00:37:19.520 that's

00:37:19.780 where

00:37:19.860 the

00:37:19.980 salvation

00:37:20.360 is

00:37:20.740 in

00:37:21.240 the

00:37:21.360 gospel

00:37:21.640 of

00:37:21.840 Luke

00:37:22.100 Luke

00:37:22.660 doesn't

00:37:23.020 talk

00:37:23.360 much

00:37:23.760 about

00:37:24.060 atonement

00:37:25.060 or

00:37:25.540 anything

00:37:26.040 like

00:37:26.420 that

00:37:26.780 Acts

00:37:27.620 20

00:37:28.640 28

00:37:30.480 seems

00:37:31.160 to

00:37:31.360 have

00:37:31.720 a

00:37:32.360 formula

00:37:32.740 which

00:37:33.560 insinuates

00:37:34.720 that

00:37:36.080 there

00:37:36.580 was

00:37:36.980 a

00:37:37.260 sacrifice

00:37:37.800 but

00:37:38.280 not

00:37:38.480 clearly

00:37:38.860 and

00:37:40.220 done

00:37:40.440 talks

00:37:40.780 about

00:37:41.020 that

00:37:41.300 even

00:37:41.840 2028

00:37:43.060 the

00:37:43.980 church

00:37:44.320 of

00:37:44.520 the

00:37:44.660 Lord

00:37:44.920 or

00:37:45.160 God

00:37:45.620 or

00:37:46.180 of

00:37:46.340 God

00:37:46.600 which

00:37:47.160 he

00:37:47.300 obtained

00:37:47.820 with

00:37:48.080 his

00:37:48.240 own

00:37:48.480 blood

00:37:48.760 or

00:37:48.980 with

00:37:49.140 the

00:37:49.280 blood

00:37:49.500 of

00:37:49.680 his

00:37:49.820 own

00:37:50.100 not

00:37:50.620 properly

00:37:51.040 speaking

00:37:51.440 part

00:37:51.800 of

00:37:52.000 an

00:37:52.200 evangelistic

00:37:54.020 proclamation

00:37:56.000 remaining

00:37:56.720 more than

00:37:57.220 a little

00:37:57.500 puzzling

00:37:57.940 and

00:37:58.480 obscure

00:37:59.260 in

00:37:59.860 short

00:38:00.200 an

00:38:00.420 explicit

00:38:00.780 theology

00:38:01.240 of

00:38:01.400 the

00:38:01.540 death

00:38:01.740 of

00:38:01.940 Jesus

00:38:02.180 is

00:38:02.420 markedly

00:38:02.900 lacking

00:38:03.240 in

00:38:03.920 the

00:38:04.140 kerygma

00:38:04.540 of

00:38:05.100 the

00:38:05.320 Acts

00:38:05.620 sermons

00:38:06.300 he

00:38:07.880 also

00:38:08.160 states

00:38:08.580 so

00:38:08.820 far

00:38:09.200 as

00:38:09.500 the

00:38:09.660 kerygma

00:38:09.980 of

00:38:10.160 the

00:38:10.320 Acts

00:38:10.560 sermons

00:38:10.940 is

00:38:11.160 concerned

00:38:11.540 we

00:38:11.920 have

00:38:12.400 to

00:38:12.960 say

00:38:13.200 that

00:38:13.460 it

00:38:13.780 lacks

00:38:14.160 a

00:38:14.340 theology

00:38:14.680 of

00:38:14.840 the

00:38:14.960 cross

00:38:15.220 it

00:38:15.420 makes

00:38:15.720 no

00:38:15.940 attempt

00:38:16.240 to

00:38:16.440 attribute

00:38:16.840 a

00:38:17.060 definite

00:38:17.460 atoning

00:38:18.300 significance

00:38:18.840 to

00:38:19.100 the

00:38:19.260 death

00:38:19.460 of

00:38:19.720 Jesus

00:38:20.000 Christ

00:38:20.360 it

00:38:20.540 mentions

00:38:20.840 the

00:38:21.020 death

00:38:21.160 of

00:38:21.260 Jesus

00:38:21.440 Christ

00:38:21.740 but

00:38:22.180 doesn't

00:38:22.920 extend

00:38:23.620 that

00:38:24.060 death

00:38:24.440 to

00:38:24.940 claim

00:38:25.400 that

00:38:25.640 this

00:38:25.960 death

00:38:26.320 was

00:38:26.560 actually

00:38:27.000 a

00:38:27.180 source

00:38:27.380 of

00:38:27.500 atonement

00:38:28.000 for

00:38:28.700 humanity

00:38:29.280 now

00:38:30.740 there

00:38:30.920 is

00:38:31.020 another

00:38:31.180 problem

00:38:31.500 in

00:38:31.660 the

00:38:31.740 gospel

00:38:31.960 of

00:38:32.140 Luke

00:38:32.360 which

00:38:33.800 apparently

00:38:35.220 talks

00:38:35.640 about

00:38:36.100 atonement

00:38:36.760 but

00:38:37.580 there

00:38:37.720 is

00:38:37.840 a

00:38:37.960 problem

00:38:38.200 with

00:38:38.380 it

00:38:38.520 the

00:38:39.340 problem

00:38:39.680 is

00:38:40.000 whether

00:38:41.540 we

00:38:41.900 accept

00:38:42.220 the

00:38:42.420 longer

00:38:42.780 ending

00:38:43.320 of

00:38:43.780 Luke

00:38:44.040 22

00:38:44.580 19

00:38:45.140 to

00:38:46.120 20

00:38:46.520 or

00:38:47.400 whether

00:38:47.620 we

00:38:47.820 accept

00:38:48.100 the

00:38:48.280 shorter

00:38:48.600 ending

00:38:48.920 I'm

00:38:49.200 sure

00:38:49.380 James

00:38:49.880 is

00:38:50.660 aware

00:38:50.880 of

00:38:51.000 this

00:38:51.160 problem

00:38:51.500 and

00:38:52.280 I'm

00:38:52.440 not

00:38:52.600 going

00:38:52.780 to

00:38:52.900 spend

00:38:53.080 much

00:38:53.340 time

00:38:53.660 on

00:38:53.820 it

00:38:53.960 and

00:38:54.600 we

00:38:54.740 can

00:38:54.880 possibly

00:38:55.180 talk

00:38:55.480 about

00:38:55.720 it

00:38:55.900 in

00:38:56.280 the

00:38:56.420 cross

00:38:56.660 fire

00:38:56.940 but

00:38:58.540 to

00:38:58.960 highlight

00:39:00.360 a

00:39:00.600 simple

00:39:00.820 point

00:39:01.120 codex

00:39:01.720 beza

00:39:03.120 omits

00:39:03.780 which

00:39:04.660 is

00:39:04.800 an

00:39:04.940 early

00:39:05.240 Greek

00:39:05.740 manuscript

00:39:06.640 it

00:39:06.920 omits

00:39:07.200 the

00:39:07.580 longer

00:39:07.840 ending

00:39:08.220 which

00:39:08.720 actually

00:39:09.160 talks

00:39:09.980 about

00:39:10.500 Jesus

00:39:11.840 this

00:39:12.720 is

00:39:12.860 my

00:39:13.100 body

00:39:13.460 which

00:39:13.880 is

00:39:14.140 given

00:39:14.420 for

00:39:14.660 you

00:39:14.900 do

00:39:15.320 this

00:39:15.660 in

00:39:16.280 remembrance

00:39:16.700 of

00:39:17.120 me

00:39:17.360 and

00:39:18.020 he

00:39:18.200 did

00:39:18.500 the

00:39:19.620 same

00:39:19.840 with

00:39:19.980 the

00:39:20.080 cup

00:39:20.280 after

00:39:21.240 supper

00:39:21.660 saying

00:39:22.160 this

00:39:22.520 cup

00:39:22.820 that

00:39:23.100 is

00:39:23.260 poured

00:39:23.640 out

00:39:25.040 for

00:39:25.240 you

00:39:25.440 is

00:39:25.840 the

00:39:25.960 new

00:39:26.160 covenant

00:39:26.500 in

00:39:26.800 my

00:39:26.960 blood

00:39:27.240 so

00:39:27.800 the

00:39:28.460 words

00:39:28.940 for

00:39:29.540 you

00:39:29.880 in

00:39:30.760 the

00:39:31.140 verse

00:39:31.360 19

00:39:31.800 and

00:39:32.700 the

00:39:32.880 formula

00:39:33.180 for

00:39:33.580 you

00:39:33.800 in

00:39:34.040 the

00:39:34.180 verse

00:39:34.400 20

00:39:34.820 this

00:39:35.700 part

00:39:36.120 is

00:39:36.940 omitted

00:39:37.440 in

00:39:38.340 D

00:39:39.560 D

00:39:40.100 is

00:39:40.320 the

00:39:40.440 name

00:39:40.600 of

00:39:40.740 codex

00:39:41.040 beza

00:39:41.380 which

00:39:42.660 is

00:39:43.460 an

00:39:43.620 ancient

00:39:44.000 Greek

00:39:44.740 manuscript

00:39:45.180 and

00:39:45.540 it

00:39:45.700 is

00:39:45.920 one

00:39:46.100 of

00:39:46.180 the

00:39:46.280 earliest

00:39:46.640 witnesses

00:39:48.900 that

00:39:49.660 doesn't

00:39:50.000 contain

00:39:50.420 the

00:39:50.620 longer

00:39:50.940 ending

00:39:51.340 no

00:39:51.620 doubt

00:39:51.960 majority

00:39:52.800 of

00:39:53.400 the

00:39:53.560 Greek

00:39:53.780 manuscripts

00:39:54.180 do

00:39:54.540 contain

00:39:55.000 it

00:39:55.200 this

00:39:55.620 is

00:39:55.760 why

00:39:55.960 people

00:39:56.260 like

00:39:56.480 Bruce

00:39:56.700 Metzger

00:39:57.140 scholars

00:39:57.840 like

00:39:58.120 Bruce

00:39:58.320 Metzger

00:39:58.740 they

00:39:59.140 believe

00:39:59.560 that

00:40:00.060 this

00:40:00.720 passage

00:40:01.240 may be

00:40:01.700 original

00:40:02.200 it

00:40:03.460 may be

00:40:03.820 original

00:40:04.220 others

00:40:05.020 disagree

00:40:05.560 people like

00:40:06.540 DC

00:40:06.780 Parker

00:40:07.200 on Luke

00:40:08.120 2220

00:40:09.320 he believes

00:40:10.420 the shorter

00:40:11.200 ending

00:40:11.800 is likely

00:40:12.880 to be

00:40:13.720 the original

00:40:14.400 writing

00:40:15.260 because it

00:40:15.760 is more in

00:40:16.620 line with

00:40:17.140 Luke's

00:40:17.520 theology

00:40:17.900 it is more

00:40:19.360 in line

00:40:19.880 with Luke's

00:40:20.760 narrative

00:40:21.260 his language

00:40:22.080 so

00:40:24.660 Finland

00:40:26.080 also

00:40:27.420 concludes

00:40:28.160 that

00:40:28.520 there is

00:40:29.180 a problem

00:40:29.640 there

00:40:29.900 in the

00:40:30.200 gospel

00:40:30.460 of Luke

00:40:30.900 that this

00:40:31.480 longer

00:40:31.920 ending

00:40:32.360 does not

00:40:33.040 actually

00:40:33.520 help

00:40:34.240 the narrative

00:40:35.000 rather

00:40:35.400 it creates

00:40:36.160 a problem

00:40:36.680 because of

00:40:37.540 the manuscript

00:40:37.940 evidence

00:40:38.460 which can

00:40:39.240 be discussed

00:40:40.420 in due

00:40:40.820 course

00:40:41.120 the gospel

00:40:42.100 of John

00:40:42.580 John's

00:40:43.920 lamp

00:40:44.180 of God

00:40:44.740 that

00:40:46.140 takes away

00:40:47.220 the sin

00:40:47.580 of humanity

00:40:48.560 now amazingly

00:40:50.100 when you put

00:40:50.700 the synoptic

00:40:51.300 gospels

00:40:51.840 on one

00:40:52.740 side

00:40:53.060 and the

00:40:53.280 gospel

00:40:53.540 of John

00:40:53.960 on the

00:40:54.260 other

00:40:54.420 side

00:40:54.800 we do

00:40:55.500 not see

00:40:55.940 this

00:40:56.240 formula

00:40:56.660 the

00:40:56.920 lamp

00:40:57.100 of God

00:40:57.620 put in

00:40:58.600 the

00:40:58.740 synoptic

00:40:59.080 tradition

00:40:59.440 for some

00:41:00.220 reason

00:41:00.540 John's

00:41:01.460 gospel

00:41:01.800 has this

00:41:02.540 formula

00:41:02.920 this

00:41:03.600 extension

00:41:04.360 of

00:41:05.320 this

00:41:05.620 story

00:41:06.060 where

00:41:06.640 John

00:41:07.080 the

00:41:07.240 Baptist

00:41:07.580 had

00:41:08.760 baptized

00:41:09.240 Jesus

00:41:09.540 in the

00:41:09.840 river

00:41:10.040 Jordan

00:41:10.840 E.P.

00:41:12.220 Sanders

00:41:12.480 on John's

00:41:13.140 gospel

00:41:13.500 he states

00:41:14.060 it is

00:41:14.560 impossible

00:41:14.980 to think

00:41:15.420 that Jesus

00:41:15.860 spent his

00:41:16.400 short

00:41:16.660 ministry

00:41:17.080 teaching

00:41:17.760 in two

00:41:18.220 such

00:41:18.500 completely

00:41:19.320 different

00:41:19.580 ways

00:41:19.860 conveying

00:41:20.520 such

00:41:20.800 different

00:41:21.120 contents

00:41:21.740 and there

00:41:22.400 were

00:41:22.520 simply

00:41:22.880 two

00:41:23.120 traditions

00:41:23.560 each

00:41:24.280 going

00:41:24.540 back

00:41:24.760 to

00:41:24.940 Jesus

00:41:25.200 one

00:41:26.000 transmitting

00:41:26.660 50%

00:41:27.400 of what

00:41:27.900 he

00:41:28.180 said

00:41:28.600 and

00:41:28.820 another

00:41:29.380 one

00:41:31.160 the

00:41:31.660 other

00:41:31.860 50%

00:41:32.520 which

00:41:32.880 almost

00:41:33.400 no

00:41:33.860 overlaps

00:41:35.940 consequently

00:41:36.500 for the

00:41:36.820 last

00:41:37.080 150

00:41:37.560 or so

00:41:38.340 years

00:41:38.700 scholars

00:41:39.060 have

00:41:39.440 had

00:41:39.700 to

00:41:39.920 choose

00:41:40.260 and

00:41:40.860 they

00:41:41.320 have

00:41:41.600 almost

00:41:42.160 unanimously

00:41:42.880 and I

00:41:43.760 think

00:41:44.000 entirely

00:41:44.620 correctly

00:41:45.100 concluded

00:41:45.660 that

00:41:45.980 the

00:41:46.380 teaching

00:41:46.720 of the

00:41:47.140 historical

00:41:47.540 Jesus

00:41:47.880 is to

00:41:48.420 be sought

00:41:48.880 in the

00:41:49.300 synoptic

00:41:49.740 gospels

00:41:50.200 and that

00:41:51.120 John

00:41:51.560 represents

00:41:52.320 an advanced

00:41:53.060 theological

00:41:54.020 development

00:41:54.600 in which

00:41:55.380 meditations

00:41:56.240 on the

00:41:57.180 person

00:41:57.560 and work

00:41:58.180 of Christ

00:41:58.660 are presented

00:41:59.360 in the

00:42:00.180 first person

00:42:00.820 as if

00:42:01.480 Jesus

00:42:01.760 said them

00:42:02.380 so

00:42:03.160 scholars

00:42:04.600 do believe

00:42:05.320 that the

00:42:06.040 gospel of

00:42:06.500 John

00:42:06.820 cannot

00:42:07.440 fully serve

00:42:09.060 as a

00:42:09.740 source of

00:42:10.120 history

00:42:10.400 of Jesus

00:42:10.780 rather

00:42:11.160 synoptic

00:42:11.640 tradition

00:42:11.980 is to be

00:42:12.860 preferred

00:42:13.380 now

00:42:15.880 James

00:42:16.560 versus

00:42:17.120 Paul

00:42:17.660 Paul

00:42:18.800 is the

00:42:20.340 man who

00:42:20.720 came up

00:42:21.080 with this

00:42:21.400 theory

00:42:21.740 of

00:42:22.640 atonement

00:42:23.660 salvation

00:42:25.320 through the

00:42:25.760 cross

00:42:26.100 as seen

00:42:27.300 already

00:42:27.640 that in

00:42:28.080 the

00:42:28.300 old

00:42:28.480 testament

00:42:28.820 there are

00:42:29.660 plenty

00:42:29.900 of

00:42:30.040 passages

00:42:30.340 to

00:42:31.120 claim

00:42:31.460 or to

00:42:32.420 assert

00:42:32.800 that

00:42:33.420 salvation

00:42:34.160 can be

00:42:34.740 sought

00:42:35.020 or can

00:42:35.580 be

00:42:35.740 achieved

00:42:36.280 by other

00:42:37.260 means

00:42:37.620 other than

00:42:38.320 blood

00:42:38.580 sacrifice

00:42:39.160 the

00:42:40.240 gospel of

00:42:40.680 Matthew

00:42:40.880 tells us

00:42:41.380 that Jesus

00:42:41.760 put a

00:42:42.120 stress

00:42:42.360 on the

00:42:42.620 law

00:42:42.900 follow

00:42:43.380 the

00:42:43.580 law

00:42:43.800 and

00:42:44.000 you

00:42:44.120 will

00:42:44.240 have

00:42:44.400 salvation

00:42:44.840 you

00:42:45.300 will

00:42:45.420 have

00:42:45.640 eternal

00:42:46.320 life

00:42:46.740 Luke

00:42:47.400 does

00:42:48.100 not

00:42:48.340 talk

00:42:48.800 about

00:42:49.140 atonement

00:42:49.760 to my

00:42:50.220 knowledge

00:42:50.580 and

00:42:51.800 John

00:42:52.640 cannot

00:42:53.740 be

00:42:54.020 trusted

00:42:54.380 when it

00:42:54.980 comes to

00:42:55.300 historicity

00:42:55.920 of these

00:42:56.400 events

00:42:57.120 so

00:42:58.060 who are

00:42:58.860 we left

00:42:59.240 with

00:42:59.480 Paul

00:43:00.020 and

00:43:01.300 Martin

00:43:01.720 Luther

00:43:02.000 in the

00:43:02.400 16th

00:43:02.800 century

00:43:03.020 believed

00:43:03.400 that

00:43:03.680 Paul

00:43:04.120 and

00:43:04.420 James

00:43:04.840 are

00:43:05.200 two

00:43:05.620 opposite

00:43:06.500 ends

00:43:07.220 they

00:43:08.180 are

00:43:08.500 opposing

00:43:09.300 each

00:43:09.560 other

00:43:09.840 theologically

00:43:10.980 and

00:43:11.920 James

00:43:12.220 is

00:43:12.380 saying

00:43:12.560 one

00:43:12.820 thing

00:43:13.020 and

00:43:13.180 Paul

00:43:13.380 is

00:43:13.540 saying

00:43:13.700 another

00:43:13.960 and

00:43:14.480 it

00:43:14.700 is

00:43:14.840 impossible

00:43:15.320 to

00:43:15.680 reconcile

00:43:16.100 them

00:43:16.460 it

00:43:16.760 is

00:43:16.880 impossible

00:43:17.360 to

00:43:17.840 reconcile

00:43:18.200 them

00:43:18.440 in

00:43:18.580 fact

00:43:18.840 for

00:43:19.660 this

00:43:19.880 reason

00:43:20.220 Martin

00:43:20.780 Luther

00:43:21.120 referred

00:43:21.560 to

00:43:21.900 the

00:43:22.060 epistle

00:43:22.300 of

00:43:22.460 James

00:43:22.720 as

00:43:23.060 an

00:43:23.260 epistle

00:43:23.500 of

00:43:23.700 straw

00:43:23.960 having

00:43:24.720 praised

00:43:25.180 it

00:43:25.420 for

00:43:25.860 his

00:43:26.080 good

00:43:26.260 teachings

00:43:26.740 for

00:43:27.540 his

00:43:27.740 usefulness

00:43:28.520 and

00:43:28.940 it

00:43:29.060 can

00:43:29.300 be

00:43:29.440 used

00:43:29.620 by

00:43:29.780 Christians

00:43:30.120 he

00:43:30.320 has

00:43:30.880 nothing

00:43:31.100 against

00:43:31.420 those

00:43:31.620 who

00:43:31.760 use

00:43:32.040 it

00:43:32.240 but

00:43:32.640 he

00:43:32.800 doesn't

00:43:33.120 consider

00:43:33.580 it

00:43:33.840 any

00:43:34.360 important

00:43:34.960 he

00:43:36.100 thinks

00:43:36.420 it

00:43:36.660 is

00:43:37.760 an

00:43:37.880 epistle

00:43:38.180 of

00:43:38.400 straw

00:43:38.700 why

00:43:39.380 because

00:43:40.020 James

00:43:40.600 taught

00:43:41.680 the

00:43:42.000 law

00:43:42.340 James

00:43:43.380 upheld

00:43:43.960 the

00:43:44.280 law

00:43:44.580 he

00:43:45.140 believed

00:43:45.660 in

00:43:45.880 salvation

00:43:46.380 through

00:43:46.780 belief

00:43:47.420 with

00:43:48.200 works

00:43:49.040 not

00:43:50.280 belief

00:43:51.940 only

00:43:52.380 as

00:43:52.800 Paul

00:43:53.280 put it

00:43:53.600 there

00:43:53.940 are so

00:43:54.180 many

00:43:54.360 passages

00:43:54.820 Galatians

00:43:55.680 2.16

00:43:56.300 where

00:43:56.980 Paul

00:43:57.240 talks

00:43:57.580 about

00:43:57.960 not

00:43:58.920 following

00:43:59.860 the

00:44:00.080 law

00:44:00.300 necessarily

00:44:00.800 for

00:44:01.080 salvation

00:44:01.580 same

00:44:02.680 formula

00:44:03.100 is

00:44:03.280 repeated

00:44:03.560 in

00:44:03.800 Romans

00:44:04.160 3.19

00:44:05.560 to

00:44:05.740 28

00:44:06.220 Galatians

00:44:07.420 3.10

00:44:08.140 Galatians

00:44:08.980 3.24

00:44:09.600 25

00:44:10.000 Paul

00:44:11.140 is

00:44:11.340 consistently

00:44:11.860 saying

00:44:12.340 the

00:44:12.540 law

00:44:13.000 is

00:44:13.640 no

00:44:13.820 longer

00:44:14.240 necessary

00:44:14.880 the

00:44:15.300 sacrifice

00:44:15.780 of

00:44:16.100 Jesus

00:44:16.340 has

00:44:17.140 done

00:44:17.380 it

00:44:17.500 for

00:44:17.640 us

00:44:17.840 we

00:44:18.020 don't

00:44:18.160 have

00:44:18.320 to

00:44:18.440 follow

00:44:18.600 the

00:44:18.760 law

00:44:18.880 anymore

00:44:19.160 we

00:44:19.580 simply

00:44:19.900 have

00:44:20.120 to

00:44:20.260 believe

00:44:20.540 in

00:44:20.660 his

00:44:20.780 sacrifice

00:44:21.180 and

00:44:21.800 we

00:44:21.960 will

00:44:22.140 have

00:44:22.540 salvation

00:44:23.720 James

00:44:24.220 on

00:44:24.500 the

00:44:24.640 other

00:44:24.780 hand

00:44:25.140 he

00:44:26.000 is

00:44:27.080 on

00:44:27.340 the

00:44:27.480 other

00:44:27.620 side

00:44:28.060 of

00:44:28.240 the

00:44:28.340 fence

00:44:28.680 he

00:44:28.960 states

00:44:29.400 that

00:44:29.980 you

00:44:30.240 cannot

00:44:30.640 believe

00:44:31.360 and

00:44:31.660 not

00:44:31.840 follow

00:44:32.120 the

00:44:32.320 law

00:44:32.620 you

00:44:33.200 cannot

00:44:33.500 have

00:44:33.920 faith

00:44:34.380 without

00:44:35.060 good

00:44:35.880 works

00:44:36.300 and

00:44:37.020 that's

00:44:37.260 what

00:44:37.380 James

00:44:37.620 was

00:44:37.740 talking

00:44:37.980 about

00:44:38.280 it

00:44:38.680 seems

00:44:38.940 the

00:44:39.100 entire

00:44:39.400 epistle

00:44:39.720 of

00:44:39.900 James

00:44:40.200 was

00:44:40.760 written

00:44:41.200 on

00:44:41.700 Paul

00:44:42.220 and

00:44:43.300 the

00:44:43.460 rest

00:44:43.720 will

00:44:43.920 be

00:44:44.040 talked

00:44:44.300 about

00:44:44.700 in

00:44:45.480 my

00:44:45.940 ten

00:44:46.180 minutes

00:44:46.440 when

00:44:46.600 I

00:44:46.700 return

00:44:46.940 thank you

00:44:47.300 so much

00:44:47.580 for

00:44:47.680 listening

00:44:47.940 time

00:44:49.320 thank you

00:44:51.260 Mr.

00:44:51.960 Rashid

00:44:52.420 we will

00:44:55.040 now be

00:44:55.600 heading into

00:44:56.320 our

00:44:56.500 rebuttal

00:44:56.860 period

00:44:57.300 Dr.

00:44:58.280 White

00:44:58.480 will

00:44:58.680 start

00:44:59.020 with

00:44:59.300 his

00:44:59.760 ten

00:45:00.140 minute

00:45:00.420 rebuttal

00:45:01.400 could

00:45:05.640 we

00:45:05.860 have

00:45:06.180 a

00:45:06.460 tech

00:45:06.940 that

00:45:07.140 could

00:45:07.260 possibly

00:45:07.620 come up

00:45:07.940 just

00:45:08.060 to

00:45:08.200 make

00:45:08.340 sure

00:45:08.540 that

00:45:08.720 our

00:45:09.540 laptops

00:45:10.000 are

00:45:10.240 you

00:45:10.440 going

00:45:10.520 to

00:45:10.540 be

00:45:10.600 using

00:45:10.800 a

00:45:10.900 laptop

00:45:11.080 I'm

00:45:11.240 not

00:45:11.420 I'm

00:45:11.820 not

00:45:11.920 using

00:45:12.360 anymore

00:45:12.700 I

00:45:17.980 think

00:45:18.180 we're

00:45:18.380 okay

00:45:18.700 we're

00:45:19.200 doing

00:45:19.660 fine

00:45:20.000 and

00:45:20.660 before

00:45:21.360 we

00:45:21.620 start

00:45:22.080 that

00:45:22.360 timer

00:45:23.240 since

00:45:23.740 Adnan

00:45:25.620 jumped

00:45:25.960 the

00:45:26.120 gun

00:45:26.360 okay

00:45:27.560 yes

00:45:28.640 I

00:45:29.860 did

00:45:30.060 remember

00:45:30.400 you

00:45:30.540 Adnan

00:45:30.800 and

00:45:32.020 you

00:45:32.180 all

00:45:32.340 are

00:45:32.460 going

00:45:32.580 to

00:45:32.660 appreciate

00:45:32.980 this

00:45:33.500 I

00:45:34.180 have

00:45:34.300 two

00:45:34.460 gifts

00:45:34.740 for

00:45:34.960 Adnan

00:45:35.200 the

00:45:37.000 first

00:45:37.400 will

00:45:39.020 help

00:45:39.220 him

00:45:39.340 get

00:45:39.480 around

00:45:39.720 Atlanta

00:45:40.060 tomorrow

00:45:40.440 so

00:45:43.120 what you

00:45:44.680 do

00:45:44.860 Adnan

00:45:45.140 is

00:45:45.440 you

00:45:45.580 wear

00:45:45.760 this

00:45:46.200 and

00:45:46.840 if

00:45:46.960 anybody

00:45:47.180 gives

00:45:47.440 you

00:45:47.520 any

00:45:47.640 trouble

00:45:47.960 you

00:45:48.320 go

00:45:48.480 rise

00:45:48.800 up

00:45:49.060 and

00:45:49.200 they'll

00:45:49.340 leave

00:45:49.500 you

00:45:49.580 alone

00:45:49.820 okay

00:45:50.220 so

00:45:51.020 there

00:45:53.340 you

00:45:53.860 go

00:45:54.060 there's

00:45:54.440 there's

00:45:54.960 the

00:45:55.280 funny

00:45:55.760 funny

00:45:56.060 one

00:45:56.240 though

00:45:56.380 it

00:45:56.500 does

00:45:56.760 look

00:45:56.940 like

00:45:57.120 it

00:45:57.200 should

00:45:57.320 be

00:45:57.440 fairly

00:45:57.700 warm

00:45:58.040 so

00:45:58.480 that

00:45:58.980 would

00:45:59.200 be

00:45:59.260 pretty

00:45:59.460 nice

00:45:59.740 the

00:46:00.440 serious

00:46:00.880 one

00:46:01.280 I

00:46:01.560 very

00:46:01.780 much

00:46:02.020 appreciate

00:46:02.460 if you

00:46:03.380 didn't

00:46:03.560 know

00:46:03.720 what

00:46:03.840 that

00:46:03.960 was

00:46:04.140 that's

00:46:04.360 a

00:46:04.480 Latin

00:46:05.160 New

00:46:06.240 Testament

00:46:06.620 over

00:46:07.060 there

00:46:07.240 I'm

00:46:07.360 very

00:46:07.520 appreciative

00:46:08.040 of

00:46:08.300 that

00:46:08.500 but

00:46:09.320 for

00:46:09.620 you

00:46:10.020 I

00:46:10.340 have

00:46:10.740 a

00:46:11.340 real

00:46:11.520 nice

00:46:11.960 ESV

00:46:13.000 study

00:46:13.920 Bible

00:46:14.200 here

00:46:14.520 it's

00:46:14.860 actually

00:46:15.740 small

00:46:16.080 enough

00:46:16.260 you

00:46:16.380 might

00:46:16.540 be

00:46:16.640 able

00:46:16.740 to

00:46:16.820 get

00:46:16.940 it

00:46:17.060 into

00:46:17.240 your

00:46:17.400 luggage

00:46:17.720 and

00:46:18.300 be

00:46:18.400 able

00:46:18.500 to

00:46:18.580 get

00:46:18.700 all

00:46:18.860 the

00:46:18.960 way

00:46:19.060 back

00:46:19.260 to

00:46:19.400 London

00:46:19.620 so

00:46:19.940 I

00:46:20.360 did

00:46:20.540 remember

00:46:20.900 you

00:46:21.100 so

00:46:21.380 thank

00:46:21.840 you

00:46:21.960 much

00:46:22.160 I

00:46:23.580 didn't

00:46:28.140 forget

00:46:28.440 I

00:46:28.680 just

00:46:28.860 normally

00:46:29.140 wait

00:46:29.400 to

00:46:29.540 a

00:46:29.660 later

00:46:29.840 point

00:46:30.220 so

00:46:30.580 okay

00:46:31.240 here

00:46:31.540 we

00:46:31.640 go

00:46:31.860 all

00:46:33.080 right

00:46:33.240 so

00:46:33.500 much

00:46:33.840 so

00:46:34.300 much

00:46:34.520 to

00:46:34.660 cover

00:46:34.880 there

00:46:35.080 but

00:46:35.240 I

00:46:35.400 want

00:46:35.680 to

00:46:35.880 remain

00:46:36.180 focused

00:46:36.700 upon

00:46:37.160 the

00:46:37.840 real

00:46:38.160 key

00:46:38.840 issues

00:46:39.260 so

00:46:39.480 let

00:46:39.620 me

00:46:39.740 just

00:46:39.940 deal

00:46:40.160 with

00:46:40.320 some

00:46:40.500 of

00:46:40.600 the

00:46:40.720 major

00:46:41.060 statements

00:46:41.640 that

00:46:41.800 were

00:46:41.940 made

00:46:42.160 and

00:46:42.340 then

00:46:42.520 focus

00:46:42.960 upon

00:46:43.320 what

00:46:43.500 I

00:46:43.640 think

00:46:44.000 is

00:46:45.080 the

00:46:45.280 necessary

00:46:45.720 thing

00:46:46.260 for

00:46:46.460 us

00:46:46.600 to

00:46:46.680 be

00:46:46.820 thinking

00:46:47.140 about

00:46:47.540 this

00:46:48.360 evening

00:46:48.700 in

00:46:48.960 what

00:46:49.260 Adnan

00:46:49.860 had

00:46:50.100 just

00:46:50.360 presented

00:46:50.840 to

00:46:51.220 us

00:46:51.600 couple

00:46:53.240 of

00:46:53.440 things

00:46:53.900 Luke

00:46:55.420 and

00:46:55.580 Acts

00:46:55.900 were

00:46:56.140 said

00:46:56.500 there

00:46:57.440 was

00:46:57.600 a

00:46:57.920 discussion

00:46:58.280 of

00:46:58.580 well

00:46:59.140 it's

00:46:59.620 agreed

00:46:59.980 that

00:47:00.240 no

00:47:00.460 one

00:47:00.660 really

00:47:00.900 knows

00:47:01.140 who

00:47:01.300 wrote

00:47:01.480 these

00:47:01.700 things

00:47:01.960 when

00:47:02.160 you

00:47:02.260 actually

00:47:02.640 look

00:47:03.000 at

00:47:03.260 Luke

00:47:03.540 Acts

00:47:04.000 as

00:47:04.420 a

00:47:04.620 set

00:47:05.100 there

00:47:05.720 are

00:47:05.860 specific

00:47:06.360 names

00:47:06.800 mentioned

00:47:07.280 I

00:47:07.460 mean

00:47:07.560 if

00:47:07.680 there

00:47:07.820 is

00:47:08.000 any

00:47:08.400 of

00:47:09.420 the

00:47:09.740 New

00:47:09.900 Testament

00:47:10.260 Gospels

00:47:10.980 and

00:47:11.420 early

00:47:11.800 histories

00:47:12.280 that

00:47:12.600 are

00:47:12.720 specifically

00:47:13.320 identified

00:47:13.840 for us

00:47:14.400 as to

00:47:14.640 their

00:47:14.780 authorship

00:47:15.240 it

00:47:16.000 would

00:47:16.160 be

00:47:16.360 the

00:47:16.540 Luke

00:47:16.760 Acts

00:47:17.120 pair

00:47:17.580 so

00:47:18.680 I'm

00:47:18.780 not

00:47:18.920 sure

00:47:19.080 where

00:47:19.220 that

00:47:19.340 comes

00:47:19.620 from

00:47:19.840 and

00:47:20.320 it's

00:47:20.500 interesting

00:47:20.880 that

00:47:21.260 when

00:47:21.520 we

00:47:21.700 looked

00:47:22.000 at

00:47:22.320 Mark

00:47:22.580 10

00:47:22.860 45

00:47:23.460 and

00:47:24.080 Mark

00:47:24.460 specific

00:47:24.920 language

00:47:25.540 of

00:47:26.200 Jesus

00:47:26.560 giving

00:47:27.120 his

00:47:27.320 life

00:47:27.600 as

00:47:27.800 a

00:47:27.940 ransom

00:47:28.240 for

00:47:28.540 many

00:47:28.800 it's

00:47:29.680 interesting

00:47:30.200 he

00:47:30.400 said

00:47:30.520 well

00:47:30.700 Luke

00:47:31.180 didn't

00:47:31.460 include

00:47:31.760 that

00:47:32.020 why

00:47:32.220 not

00:47:32.600 it's

00:47:33.440 not

00:47:33.720 a

00:47:34.900 question

00:47:35.280 about

00:47:35.520 Luke

00:47:35.780 including

00:47:36.480 or not

00:47:36.840 including

00:47:37.180 it

00:47:37.340 Mark

00:47:37.820 according

00:47:38.320 to

00:47:38.540 the

00:47:38.780 series

00:47:39.240 that

00:47:39.480 he's

00:47:39.720 presenting

00:47:40.080 is

00:47:40.500 earlier

00:47:40.880 than

00:47:41.160 Luke

00:47:41.500 so

00:47:42.320 if

00:47:42.580 this

00:47:42.800 is

00:47:42.940 something

00:47:43.200 that

00:47:43.360 develops

00:47:43.720 later

00:47:44.020 on

00:47:44.340 why

00:47:44.600 does

00:47:44.800 the

00:47:44.980 primitive

00:47:45.340 gospel

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00:49:25.380 that

00:49:25.700 Adnan

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00:51:40.640 on

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00:51:41.600 the

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00:52:07.700 Old

00:52:08.360 Testament

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00:52:10.600 abrogated

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00:52:14.640 are

00:52:14.760 saying

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00:52:15.880 term

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00:52:52.020 perfectly

00:52:52.420 we

00:52:52.940 are

00:52:53.080 united

00:52:53.400 to

00:52:53.600 him

00:52:53.780 by

00:52:54.000 faith

00:52:54.480 and

00:52:55.600 then

00:52:55.800 when

00:52:56.000 we

00:52:56.260 are

00:52:56.520 born

00:52:56.800 again

00:52:57.340 and

00:52:57.600 made

00:52:57.820 new

00:52:58.000 creatures

00:52:58.360 in

00:52:58.580 him

00:52:58.800 we

00:52:58.940 are

00:52:59.060 indwelt

00:52:59.380 by

00:52:59.600 his

00:52:59.800 spirit

00:53:00.080 and

00:53:00.240 empowered

00:53:00.660 to

00:53:00.960 do

00:53:01.360 what

00:53:01.800 is

00:53:01.920 pleasing

00:53:02.200 before

00:53:02.500 God

00:53:02.800 not

00:53:03.060 to

00:53:03.240 add

00:53:03.580 to

00:53:03.780 our

00:53:03.980 righteousness

00:53:04.440 but

00:53:05.040 to

00:53:05.200 glorify

00:53:05.620 God

00:53:06.040 this

00:53:06.560 is

00:53:06.740 the

00:53:06.900 balanced

00:53:07.560 understanding

00:53:08.280 when you

00:53:08.600 take

00:53:08.840 all

00:53:09.400 of

00:53:09.660 the

00:53:09.760 New

00:53:09.900 Testament

00:53:10.280 and

00:53:10.920 obviously

00:53:11.680 Adnan's

00:53:12.860 not

00:53:13.060 going to

00:53:13.300 take

00:53:13.520 all

00:53:13.660 the

00:53:13.780 New

00:53:13.920 Testament

00:53:14.240 because

00:53:15.420 if

00:53:15.940 you're

00:53:16.100 quoting

00:53:16.380 James

00:53:17.600 D.G.

00:53:18.040 Dunn

00:53:18.280 and

00:53:18.420 people

00:53:18.660 like

00:53:18.880 that

00:53:19.180 you've

00:53:19.660 already

00:53:19.880 started

00:53:20.340 with

00:53:20.520 the

00:53:20.660 presupposition

00:53:21.380 that

00:53:22.360 the

00:53:22.500 New

00:53:22.620 Testament

00:53:22.960 is

00:53:23.260 an

00:53:23.440 incoherent

00:53:24.180 contradictory

00:53:24.840 work

00:53:25.440 well

00:53:25.920 the

00:53:26.020 problem

00:53:26.300 is

00:53:26.580 well

00:53:26.760 you

00:53:26.940 may

00:53:27.120 certainly

00:53:27.420 believe

00:53:27.820 that

00:53:28.160 but

00:53:29.200 if

00:53:29.500 we

00:53:30.640 do

00:53:30.820 a

00:53:30.960 debate

00:53:31.300 on

00:53:31.560 what

00:53:31.720 the

00:53:31.880 Quran

00:53:32.100 teaches

00:53:32.680 on

00:53:33.040 this

00:53:33.400 I'm

00:53:33.980 at

00:53:34.120 least

00:53:34.320 going

00:53:34.480 to

00:53:34.560 start

00:53:34.780 off

00:53:35.020 by

00:53:35.160 saying

00:53:35.480 well

00:53:35.700 consistently

00:53:36.560 if

00:53:36.940 we

00:53:37.100 allow

00:53:37.960 all

00:53:38.520 the

00:53:38.760 Quran

00:53:39.060 to

00:53:39.280 speak

00:53:39.660 this

00:53:40.320 is

00:53:40.500 the

00:53:40.660 position

00:53:41.140 and

00:53:41.800 so

00:53:41.940 let's

00:53:42.160 debate

00:53:42.420 that

00:53:42.660 position

00:53:43.120 but

00:53:44.140 in

00:53:44.560 general

00:53:45.120 mainly

00:53:45.520 because

00:53:45.840 the

00:53:46.000 New

00:53:46.100 Testament

00:53:46.360 is

00:53:46.520 so

00:53:46.620 much

00:53:46.780 bigger

00:53:47.020 than

00:53:47.420 the

00:53:48.040 Quran

00:53:48.280 is

00:53:48.540 as

00:53:48.840 a

00:53:48.940 whole

00:53:49.140 the

00:53:49.640 Quran

00:53:49.800 is

00:53:49.900 only

00:53:50.000 like

00:53:50.140 53%

00:53:50.800 the

00:53:50.960 length

00:53:51.140 of

00:53:51.240 the

00:53:51.300 New

00:53:51.400 Testament

00:53:51.700 in

00:53:59.200 contradiction

00:53:59.600 between

00:54:00.140 the

00:54:00.340 New

00:54:00.460 Testament

00:54:00.720 writers

00:54:01.100 rather

00:54:01.560 than

00:54:01.820 stepping

00:54:02.120 back

00:54:02.400 and

00:54:02.500 going

00:54:02.660 is

00:54:03.220 there

00:54:03.400 a

00:54:03.560 consistent

00:54:04.080 way

00:54:04.380 of

00:54:04.520 hearing

00:54:04.760 everything

00:54:05.400 that

00:54:06.000 the

00:54:06.120 New

00:54:06.240 Testament

00:54:06.520 writers

00:54:06.840 are

00:54:07.020 saying

00:54:07.300 I

00:54:07.560 say

00:54:07.800 to

00:54:07.980 you

00:54:08.160 that

00:54:08.580 there

00:54:08.760 is

00:54:09.160 it's

00:54:09.460 the

00:54:09.600 concept

00:54:10.080 of

00:54:10.540 fulfillment

00:54:11.540 so

00:54:13.020 for

00:54:13.220 example

00:54:13.580 he

00:54:14.240 brought

00:54:14.440 up

00:54:14.560 the

00:54:14.680 issue

00:54:14.900 of

00:54:15.080 the

00:54:15.180 rich

00:54:15.360 young

00:54:15.560 ruler

00:54:15.860 and

00:54:16.680 say

00:54:16.800 see

00:54:17.020 here's

00:54:17.400 what

00:54:17.740 we

00:54:17.860 Muslims

00:54:18.160 believe

00:54:18.860 you

00:54:19.140 do

00:54:20.260 the

00:54:20.820 law

00:54:21.100 and

00:54:21.420 you're

00:54:21.580 going

00:54:21.660 to be

00:54:21.760 right

00:54:21.960 with

00:54:22.140 God

00:54:22.440 but

00:54:22.640 that

00:54:22.840 misses

00:54:23.300 what

00:54:24.300 happened

00:54:24.800 isn't

00:54:25.420 it

00:54:25.680 doesn't

00:54:26.200 that

00:54:26.320 miss

00:54:26.480 it

00:54:26.720 the

00:54:28.140 man

00:54:28.400 walks

00:54:28.800 away

00:54:29.340 sad

00:54:30.580 why

00:54:31.860 because

00:54:32.140 he

00:54:32.260 had

00:54:32.380 many

00:54:32.560 possessions

00:54:33.000 and

00:54:34.600 you

00:54:34.720 see

00:54:34.920 Jesus

00:54:35.320 had

00:54:35.620 known

00:54:36.020 when

00:54:36.800 he

00:54:37.020 quoted

00:54:37.460 the

00:54:37.820 law

00:54:38.120 to

00:54:38.320 this

00:54:38.500 man

00:54:38.840 he

00:54:39.540 knows

00:54:40.000 that

00:54:40.520 as

00:54:40.940 the

00:54:41.140 prophet

00:54:41.500 Jeremiah

00:54:42.240 says

00:54:42.740 over

00:54:43.160 and

00:54:43.380 over

00:54:43.660 again

00:54:43.980 he

00:54:44.380 knows

00:54:44.620 the

00:54:44.800 heart

00:54:45.000 of

00:54:45.140 man

00:54:45.460 and

00:54:47.320 my

00:54:47.460 friends

00:54:47.760 this

00:54:47.980 evening

00:54:48.200 I'll

00:54:48.420 just

00:54:48.560 be

00:54:48.760 perfectly

00:54:49.760 honest

00:54:50.100 with

00:54:50.280 you

00:54:50.400 the

00:54:50.640 only

00:54:51.080 way

00:54:51.360 for

00:54:51.560 us

00:54:51.720 really

00:54:52.040 to

00:54:53.000 come

00:54:53.240 to

00:54:53.360 any

00:54:53.560 kind

00:54:53.860 of

00:54:54.040 agreement

00:54:54.620 understanding

00:54:55.220 on

00:54:55.380 this

00:54:55.540 issue

00:54:55.820 is

00:54:56.620 for

00:54:56.740 each

00:54:56.880 one

00:54:57.080 of

00:54:57.200 us

00:54:57.500 in

00:54:58.480 the

00:54:58.700 light

00:54:59.000 of

00:54:59.200 God's

00:54:59.560 word

00:54:59.740 to

00:54:59.900 look

00:55:00.040 at

00:55:00.140 our

00:55:00.240 own

00:55:00.420 heart

00:55:00.700 and

00:55:00.900 ask

00:55:01.140 the

00:55:01.280 question

00:55:01.620 if

00:55:02.100 it's

00:55:02.300 up

00:55:02.440 to

00:55:02.580 me

00:55:02.800 if

00:55:04.980 it's

00:55:05.140 up

00:55:05.280 to

00:55:05.400 me

00:55:05.640 if

00:55:06.740 I'm

00:55:07.020 the

00:55:07.160 one

00:55:07.320 that

00:55:07.480 has

00:55:07.700 to

00:55:07.840 bring

00:55:08.060 repentance

00:55:08.500 out

00:55:08.820 of

00:55:08.900 my

00:55:09.080 own

00:55:09.280 heart

00:55:09.660 if

00:55:10.660 I'm

00:55:10.840 the

00:55:10.940 one

00:55:11.040 that

00:55:11.140 has

00:55:11.320 to

00:55:11.480 keep

00:55:11.780 that

00:55:12.060 law

00:55:12.480 am

00:55:14.340 I

00:55:14.460 going

00:55:14.600 to

00:55:14.720 fail

00:55:14.960 or

00:55:15.620 am

00:55:15.700 I

00:55:15.800 going

00:55:15.940 to

00:55:16.080 succeed

00:55:16.480 one

00:55:20.000 of

00:55:20.080 the

00:55:20.160 things

00:55:20.360 we

00:55:20.500 need

00:55:20.760 to

00:55:20.920 talk

00:55:21.160 about

00:55:21.400 as

00:55:21.620 we

00:55:21.760 get

00:55:21.960 into

00:55:22.080 this

00:55:22.240 conversation

00:55:22.760 more

00:55:23.120 is

00:55:23.520 when

00:55:24.600 you

00:55:24.740 say

00:55:24.960 that

00:55:25.160 that's

00:55:25.400 the

00:55:25.520 Muslim

00:55:25.760 position

00:55:26.200 well

00:55:27.640 what

00:55:27.980 about

00:55:28.220 for

00:55:28.420 example

00:55:28.820 the

00:55:29.440 salvation

00:55:30.440 of

00:55:30.740 the

00:55:30.860 man

00:55:31.060 who

00:55:31.200 killed

00:55:31.420 99

00:55:31.780 people

00:55:32.180 and

00:55:32.340 killed

00:55:32.520 100th

00:55:32.900 person

00:55:33.220 and

00:55:34.120 Allah

00:55:34.280 takes

00:55:34.620 him

00:55:34.720 to

00:55:34.800 heaven

00:55:35.000 over

00:55:36.100 against

00:55:36.460 some

00:55:36.720 of

00:55:36.840 the

00:55:36.980 Sahaba

00:55:37.380 who

00:55:37.840 wept

00:55:38.720 at

00:55:38.860 their

00:55:39.000 death

00:55:39.340 because

00:55:39.580 they

00:55:39.740 were

00:55:39.880 uncertain

00:55:40.340 whether

00:55:40.600 they

00:55:40.860 they

00:55:41.260 were

00:55:41.360 going

00:55:41.540 to

00:55:41.720 enter

00:55:42.040 into

00:55:42.320 Allah's

00:55:42.700 presence

00:55:43.000 there

00:55:43.240 is

00:55:43.960 no

00:55:44.160 objective

00:55:44.980 means

00:55:45.820 of

00:55:46.060 knowing

00:55:46.440 which

00:55:46.820 you're

00:55:47.080 going

00:55:47.280 to

00:55:47.400 be

00:55:47.580 facing

00:55:48.180 and

00:55:50.240 the

00:55:50.400 real

00:55:50.620 question

00:55:50.980 comes

00:55:51.240 down

00:55:51.440 to

00:55:51.560 as

00:55:51.740 I

00:55:51.880 look

00:55:52.080 into

00:55:52.200 my

00:55:52.400 own

00:55:52.680 heart

00:55:53.320 don't

00:55:54.620 I

00:55:54.840 realize

00:55:55.340 that

00:55:55.560 if

00:55:55.700 it

00:55:55.880 is

00:55:56.280 up

00:55:56.520 to

00:55:56.700 me

00:55:56.960 I'm

00:55:57.900 not

00:55:58.100 going

00:55:58.220 to

00:55:58.300 make

00:55:58.500 it

00:55:58.660 I

00:55:59.180 need

00:55:59.940 a

00:56:00.200 powerful

00:56:00.780 mediator

00:56:01.680 to

00:56:03.060 stand

00:56:03.460 between

00:56:03.800 me

00:56:04.120 and

00:56:04.240 that

00:56:04.400 holy

00:56:04.640 God

00:56:04.840 that's

00:56:05.040 what

00:56:05.140 Job

00:56:05.360 said

00:56:05.580 I

00:56:05.680 need

00:56:05.820 a

00:56:05.920 mediator

00:56:06.280 and

00:56:07.760 we

00:56:07.920 have

00:56:08.220 that

00:56:08.420 mediator

00:56:08.900 and

00:56:10.100 in

00:56:10.400 Islam

00:56:10.840 you

00:56:11.100 don't

00:56:11.340 have

00:56:11.560 that

00:56:11.740 mediator

00:56:12.220 that's

00:56:14.000 really

00:56:14.400 where

00:56:14.660 the

00:56:14.840 issue

00:56:15.140 is

00:56:15.600 is

00:56:16.000 the

00:56:16.180 law

00:56:16.440 a

00:56:16.620 matter

00:56:16.820 of

00:56:17.020 fulfillment

00:56:17.480 Christ

00:56:17.920 has

00:56:18.260 done

00:56:18.560 it

00:56:18.760 and

00:56:19.220 now

00:56:19.480 by

00:56:19.660 his

00:56:19.880 spirit

00:56:20.180 he's

00:56:20.420 working

00:56:20.700 that

00:56:20.900 within

00:56:21.180 us

00:56:21.660 is

00:56:22.940 the

00:56:23.100 cross

00:56:23.400 necessary

00:56:24.020 yes

00:56:25.100 when

00:56:25.800 we

00:56:26.000 recognize

00:56:26.620 the

00:56:27.320 power

00:56:27.660 of

00:56:27.820 God

00:56:28.100 seen

00:56:28.460 in

00:56:28.600 it

00:56:28.760 thank

00:56:29.260 you

00:56:29.320 very

00:56:29.460 much

00:56:29.780 thank

00:56:31.600 you

00:56:31.840 Dr.

00:56:32.180 White

00:56:32.600 we

00:56:35.120 now

00:56:35.420 have

00:56:35.920 a

00:56:36.340 10

00:56:36.740 minute

00:56:36.920 rebuttal

00:56:37.400 from

00:56:38.460 Mr.

00:56:38.760 Rashid

00:56:39.120 so

00:56:41.500 I

00:56:41.960 was

00:56:42.140 talking

00:56:42.440 about

00:56:43.000 James

00:56:47.240 and

00:56:47.500 Paul

00:56:47.880 Dr.

00:56:50.160 White

00:56:50.340 came

00:56:50.600 back

00:56:50.900 and

00:56:51.020 he

00:56:51.140 talked

00:56:51.360 about

00:56:51.760 the

00:56:53.380 sacrifice

00:56:53.860 again

00:56:54.320 and

00:56:54.640 what

00:56:54.820 Paul

00:56:55.160 had

00:56:55.360 said

00:56:55.620 and

00:56:55.740 I

00:56:55.860 don't

00:56:56.000 understand

00:56:56.440 Paul's

00:56:56.780 theology

00:56:57.080 I

00:56:57.280 understand

00:56:57.820 Paul's

00:56:58.240 theology

00:56:58.600 perfectly

00:56:59.480 well

00:56:59.780 I

00:57:00.340 simply

00:57:00.580 don't

00:57:00.740 have

00:57:00.860 the

00:57:00.980 time

00:57:01.180 to

00:57:01.320 go

00:57:01.460 through

00:57:01.720 Paul's

00:57:02.680 evolving

00:57:03.380 theology

00:57:03.840 in

00:57:04.060 his

00:57:04.200 epistles

00:57:04.560 what

00:57:06.260 I

00:57:06.400 need

00:57:06.540 to

00:57:06.640 do

00:57:06.740 is

00:57:06.880 to

00:57:07.000 show

00:57:07.380 that

00:57:08.100 Paul's

00:57:08.960 theology

00:57:09.580 of the

00:57:10.340 cross

00:57:10.700 was not

00:57:11.140 consistent

00:57:11.720 with

00:57:12.580 the

00:57:12.880 Old

00:57:13.060 Testament

00:57:13.420 primarily

00:57:14.220 and

00:57:15.180 then

00:57:15.460 the

00:57:16.180 synoptic

00:57:16.580 tradition

00:57:16.980 because

00:57:17.500 the

00:57:17.800 synoptic

00:57:18.360 authors

00:57:19.020 Matthew

00:57:19.740 Mark

00:57:20.320 and

00:57:20.700 Luke

00:57:21.000 are

00:57:21.340 clearly

00:57:22.020 not

00:57:22.280 interested

00:57:22.720 in

00:57:22.920 what

00:57:23.080 Paul

00:57:23.560 had

00:57:23.780 to

00:57:23.940 say

00:57:24.080 later

00:57:24.360 on

00:57:24.680 no doubt

00:57:25.420 scholars

00:57:25.860 believe

00:57:26.180 that

00:57:26.380 Paul

00:57:26.660 wrote

00:57:26.920 before

00:57:27.420 the

00:57:28.100 three

00:57:28.460 gospels

00:57:29.000 or

00:57:29.320 the

00:57:29.480 four

00:57:29.680 gospels

00:57:30.140 there's

00:57:30.800 no doubt

00:57:31.240 about

00:57:31.640 that

00:57:31.940 this

00:57:32.260 is

00:57:32.360 why

00:57:32.480 some

00:57:32.700 people

00:57:32.960 believe

00:57:33.400 that

00:57:34.560 influenced

00:57:35.320 some

00:57:35.900 of

00:57:35.980 the

00:57:36.060 redactors

00:57:36.700 of

00:57:37.300 these

00:57:37.540 gospels

00:57:38.040 now

00:57:38.440 James

00:57:38.840 said

00:57:39.100 there

00:57:39.240 is

00:57:39.340 no

00:57:39.480 evidence

00:57:39.880 for

00:57:40.860 textual

00:57:43.360 variations

00:57:44.660 of

00:57:45.160 certain

00:57:45.500 passages

00:57:45.920 I

00:57:46.260 quoted

00:57:46.620 most

00:57:48.600 textual

00:57:49.080 scholars

00:57:49.440 believe

00:57:49.860 that

00:57:50.240 majority

00:57:51.080 of

00:57:51.360 the

00:57:51.460 changes

00:57:51.820 or

00:57:52.100 alterations

00:57:52.720 into

00:57:53.140 the

00:57:53.700 manuscripts

00:57:54.060 of the

00:57:54.400 New

00:57:54.520 Testament

00:57:54.800 were

00:57:55.040 made

00:57:55.320 before

00:57:55.700 the

00:57:56.260 second

00:57:56.600 century

00:57:57.120 and

00:57:57.480 most

00:57:59.800 of

00:58:00.000 our

00:58:00.180 manuscripts

00:58:00.500 come

00:58:00.980 from

00:58:01.460 the

00:58:01.600 second

00:58:01.840 century

00:58:02.240 onwards

00:58:02.680 so

00:58:03.400 by

00:58:03.800 the

00:58:03.980 time

00:58:04.340 these

00:58:04.660 manuscripts

00:58:05.080 we

00:58:05.780 have

00:58:06.100 today

00:58:06.480 in

00:58:07.100 international

00:58:07.680 libraries

00:58:08.340 around

00:58:08.580 the

00:58:08.740 world

00:58:08.980 by the

00:58:09.580 time

00:58:09.780 they

00:58:09.920 were

00:58:10.040 penned

00:58:10.500 all

00:58:11.180 the

00:58:11.380 alterations

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00:58:37.740 century

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00:58:43.480 again

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00:58:45.180 Paul

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00:58:57.660 of

00:58:58.140 salvation

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00:58:58.980 the

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00:59:40.320 acknowledged

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00:59:44.180 a

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00:59:49.020 Eusebius

00:59:49.520 and others

00:59:50.580 that James

00:59:51.560 was the

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01:01:34.540 Paul

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01:01:52.580 Luther

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01:02:08.160 Jesus

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01:02:33.820 salvation

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01:02:40.360 scribes

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01:02:43.440 Jesus

01:02:43.640 telling

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01:03:40.280 like

01:03:40.560 Graham

01:03:40.840 Stanton

01:03:41.320 he

01:03:41.840 states

01:03:42.160 that

01:03:42.340 this

01:03:42.600 passage

01:03:43.080 is

01:03:43.640 a

01:03:43.820 later

01:03:44.180 development

01:03:45.180 because

01:03:46.360 in

01:03:46.760 the

01:03:46.880 book

01:03:47.000 of

01:03:47.140 Acts

01:03:47.420 we

01:03:47.560 are

01:03:47.700 told

01:03:47.980 that

01:03:48.180 the

01:03:48.300 disciples

01:03:48.760 were

01:03:49.340 baptizing

01:03:50.000 in

01:03:50.140 the

01:03:50.240 name

01:03:50.380 of

01:03:50.540 Jesus

01:03:50.840 not

01:03:51.460 in

01:03:51.680 the

01:03:51.800 name

01:03:51.960 of

01:03:52.080 a

01:03:52.220 trinity

01:03:52.520 in

01:03:52.960 the

01:03:53.080 book

01:03:53.220 of

01:03:53.360 Matthew

01:03:53.660 we

01:03:53.880 are

01:03:54.000 told

01:03:54.360 that

01:03:54.900 Jesus

01:03:55.160 said

01:03:55.480 to

01:03:55.640 his

01:03:55.800 disciples

01:03:56.300 to

01:03:56.700 baptize

01:03:57.280 in

01:03:57.380 the

01:03:57.480 name

01:03:57.660 of

01:03:57.900 three

01:03:59.000 persons

01:04:03.060 salvation

01:04:03.560 let's

01:04:04.280 assume

01:04:04.640 for a

01:04:05.140 second

01:04:05.380 that

01:04:05.840 Jesus

01:04:06.060 did

01:04:06.320 die

01:04:06.720 on

01:04:06.960 the

01:04:07.100 cross

01:04:07.400 for

01:04:07.660 our

01:04:07.840 sins

01:04:08.120 but

01:04:09.020 when

01:04:09.180 we

01:04:09.320 read

01:04:09.520 some

01:04:09.660 of

01:04:09.740 the

01:04:09.820 passages

01:04:10.140 in

01:04:11.160 the

01:04:14.060 New

01:04:14.240 Testament

01:04:14.560 in

01:04:14.920 fact

01:04:15.520 writings

01:04:16.040 of

01:04:16.240 Paul

01:04:16.540 we

01:04:17.580 come

01:04:17.820 to

01:04:18.000 realize

01:04:18.340 that

01:04:18.620 actually

01:04:19.180 salvation

01:04:19.680 is

01:04:19.900 not

01:04:20.060 guaranteed

01:04:20.520 it

01:04:21.860 is

01:04:22.000 not

01:04:22.180 guaranteed

01:04:22.560 at

01:04:22.780 all

01:04:23.020 why

01:04:23.400 do

01:04:24.200 you

01:04:24.320 not

01:04:24.520 know

01:04:24.820 that

01:04:25.180 the

01:04:25.640 unrighteous

01:04:26.300 will

01:04:26.540 not

01:04:26.820 inherit

01:04:27.260 the

01:04:27.460 kingdom

01:04:27.680 of

01:04:27.920 God

01:04:28.220 do

01:04:29.460 not

01:04:29.640 be

01:04:29.800 deceived

01:04:30.240 neither

01:04:30.760 fornicators

01:04:31.600 nor

01:04:32.080 idolaters

01:04:32.820 nor

01:04:33.420 adulterers

01:04:34.180 nor

01:04:34.700 homosexuals

01:04:35.600 nor

01:04:35.760 sodomites

01:04:36.380 nor

01:04:37.000 thieves

01:04:37.500 nor

01:04:38.480 covetous

01:04:39.840 nor

01:04:40.160 drunkards

01:04:40.940 nor

01:04:41.360 revilers

01:04:42.320 nor

01:04:43.600 extortioners

01:04:44.920 will inherit

01:04:45.520 the kingdom

01:04:45.940 of God

01:04:46.500 none of

01:04:47.220 these people

01:04:47.680 then who

01:04:48.340 did Jesus

01:04:48.780 die for

01:04:49.280 is the

01:04:49.520 question

01:04:49.860 if Jesus

01:04:50.700 died for

01:04:51.240 his sins

01:04:51.720 then how

01:04:53.060 does that

01:04:53.500 sacrifice

01:04:54.320 actually

01:04:54.860 benefit

01:04:55.440 here Paul

01:04:56.600 seems to

01:04:57.020 be saying

01:04:57.440 that if

01:04:58.000 you do

01:04:58.320 these

01:04:58.600 things

01:04:59.000 then you

01:05:00.400 do not

01:05:00.800 have

01:05:01.240 the kingdom

01:05:02.760 of heaven

01:05:03.160 you do

01:05:03.420 not

01:05:03.600 inherit

01:05:04.000 it

01:05:04.300 and

01:05:06.140 another

01:05:06.580 passage

01:05:06.920 in

01:05:07.140 Galatians

01:05:07.600 5

01:05:07.940 19

01:05:08.300 everyone

01:05:09.160 seems to

01:05:09.700 be doomed

01:05:10.120 why

01:05:10.900 think about

01:05:12.620 it

01:05:12.820 now the

01:05:13.340 works of

01:05:13.720 the flesh

01:05:14.020 are evident

01:05:14.560 which are

01:05:15.960 adultery

01:05:16.900 fornication

01:05:17.560 uncleanliness

01:05:18.400 licentiousness

01:05:19.640 idolatry

01:05:20.320 sorcery

01:05:20.900 hatred

01:05:21.380 contentions

01:05:22.180 jealousies

01:05:23.180 outbursts

01:05:23.780 of wrath

01:05:24.180 selfish

01:05:24.640 ambitions

01:05:25.220 dissensions

01:05:26.220 heresies

01:05:26.940 envy

01:05:27.280 murders

01:05:27.820 drunkenness

01:05:28.460 you name

01:05:29.960 it

01:05:30.180 now if

01:05:31.500 we read

01:05:32.000 this list

01:05:32.660 and think

01:05:34.620 about it

01:05:35.120 then the

01:05:35.940 question I

01:05:36.380 ask is

01:05:36.840 who is

01:05:37.300 safe

01:05:37.660 who is

01:05:38.920 safe

01:05:39.180 every

01:05:41.380 single one

01:05:42.120 of us

01:05:42.460 is doomed

01:05:43.020 every

01:05:44.120 single one

01:05:44.700 of us

01:05:45.020 and we

01:05:45.680 don't know

01:05:45.980 to what

01:05:46.340 extent

01:05:46.720 what is

01:05:47.080 the magnitude

01:05:47.600 of these

01:05:48.080 sins

01:05:48.360 how much

01:05:49.280 or how

01:05:51.140 many do

01:05:51.640 we have

01:05:51.960 to commit

01:05:52.460 in order

01:05:52.960 to lose

01:05:53.380 salvation

01:05:53.940 to lose

01:05:54.700 the kingdom

01:05:55.160 of God

01:05:55.860 or the

01:05:56.380 kingdom

01:05:56.600 of heaven

01:05:57.100 how many

01:05:58.400 to what

01:05:59.320 to what

01:06:00.300 exact extent

01:06:01.100 is Paul

01:06:01.580 referring here

01:06:02.180 is just

01:06:03.160 one transgression

01:06:03.840 enough

01:06:04.200 is it

01:06:04.860 repetitive

01:06:05.260 sinning

01:06:05.780 if so

01:06:06.720 how regular

01:06:07.600 are these

01:06:08.340 various sins

01:06:09.120 hierarchical

01:06:10.000 in other words

01:06:10.860 are all

01:06:11.720 the sins

01:06:12.240 weighed

01:06:12.560 equally

01:06:13.000 or are

01:06:13.680 some

01:06:14.000 worse

01:06:15.080 than others

01:06:15.660 don't

01:06:16.120 all Christians

01:06:17.080 all of humanity

01:06:17.880 even have

01:06:18.700 selfish ambitions

01:06:19.600 and jealousies

01:06:20.400 do we not

01:06:21.980 drink

01:06:22.340 some of us

01:06:23.020 I don't

01:06:24.440 but do

01:06:26.000 do people

01:06:26.600 not drink

01:06:27.060 Christians

01:06:27.600 who believe

01:06:28.100 in the

01:06:28.360 cross

01:06:28.620 do they

01:06:29.540 not drink

01:06:30.040 so

01:06:31.420 do you

01:06:32.360 have

01:06:32.600 salvation

01:06:33.100 according

01:06:33.460 to the

01:06:33.760 writings

01:06:34.040 of Paul

01:06:34.500 do you

01:06:36.260 is the

01:06:36.800 question

01:06:37.140 so

01:06:37.720 there are

01:06:38.120 problems

01:06:38.600 and in

01:06:39.680 this passage

01:06:40.600 in front of

01:06:41.160 me

01:06:41.300 the time

01:06:41.780 is up

01:06:42.120 so I

01:06:42.500 will have

01:06:42.800 to

01:06:43.040 come back

01:06:43.940 to some

01:06:45.020 of these

01:06:45.260 issues

01:06:45.580 in the

01:06:46.360 next

01:06:46.540 rebuttal

01:06:46.960 thank you

01:06:47.680 so much

01:06:48.020 for listening

01:06:48.380 thank you

01:06:49.760 Mr.

01:06:50.100 Rasheed

01:06:50.580 okay

01:06:51.600 ladies and

01:06:52.220 gentlemen

01:06:52.500 we're now

01:06:54.120 going to

01:06:54.380 give you

01:06:54.860 a 10

01:06:55.660 minute

01:06:55.880 break

01:06:56.320 before we

01:06:57.360 start our

01:06:57.740 cross

01:06:58.020 examination

01:06:58.480 period

01:06:59.060 also

01:06:59.740 during this

01:07:00.360 time

01:07:00.740 if you'd

01:07:01.360 like to

01:07:01.620 be able

01:07:01.860 to take

01:07:02.260 some

01:07:03.060 pieces

01:07:03.400 of paper

01:07:03.960 and bring

01:07:05.060 one

01:07:05.740 question

01:07:06.160 per person

01:07:06.720 up here

01:07:07.180 we would

01:07:07.700 like to

01:07:08.000 have

01:07:08.300 one

01:07:08.840 question

01:07:09.260 for

01:07:09.460 Dr.

01:07:09.820 White

01:07:10.060 and one

01:07:10.920 question

01:07:11.660 for

01:07:11.940 Adnan

01:07:12.320 Rasheed

01:07:12.800 as well

01:07:13.340 and so

01:07:14.160 we can

01:07:14.480 take a

01:07:14.800 look

01:07:14.920 at those

01:07:15.380 I will

01:07:15.980 pick

01:07:16.280 the best

01:07:17.160 three

01:07:17.580 for each

01:07:18.040 men

01:07:18.320 at the

01:07:18.980 end

01:07:19.200 okay

01:07:19.540 thank you

01:07:20.240 so much

01:07:20.620 we'll see

01:07:21.040 you in

01:07:21.500 10

01:07:21.760 minutes

01:07:22.060 okay

01:07:23.420 ladies and

01:07:23.980 gentlemen

01:07:24.240 first of

01:07:25.680 all I

01:07:26.300 want to

01:07:27.020 take time

01:07:28.360 to recognize

01:07:29.380 and to

01:07:30.020 thank

01:07:30.360 Josh

01:07:31.700 Bice

01:07:32.100 and the

01:07:33.280 G3

01:07:33.700 conference

01:07:34.840 and all

01:07:35.680 of their

01:07:35.960 volunteers

01:07:36.360 for really

01:07:37.720 allowing us

01:07:38.280 to put this

01:07:38.800 debate on

01:07:39.280 once again

01:07:39.800 we had a

01:07:40.760 great time

01:07:41.160 last year

01:07:41.640 and once

01:07:42.500 again

01:07:42.800 this year

01:07:43.480 we are

01:07:43.940 really delving

01:07:44.680 deep

01:07:45.100 into some

01:07:45.980 things

01:07:46.280 and the

01:07:46.540 cross

01:07:46.760 examination

01:07:47.160 is always

01:07:48.380 I think

01:07:49.060 the most

01:07:50.540 scintillating

01:07:51.080 of the

01:07:51.740 times that

01:07:52.200 we have

01:07:52.640 but it

01:07:52.980 is great

01:07:53.540 that

01:07:54.240 unlike

01:07:55.440 many of

01:07:55.880 the debates

01:07:56.280 that I've

01:07:56.620 moderated

01:07:57.060 over the

01:07:57.460 past

01:07:57.740 20 years

01:07:58.660 that

01:07:59.480 these two

01:08:00.180 gentlemen

01:08:00.420 do respect

01:08:01.140 each other

01:08:01.640 so what I

01:08:02.500 don't believe

01:08:03.520 what you're

01:08:03.860 going to be

01:08:04.120 hearing is

01:08:04.520 any game

01:08:04.960 playing

01:08:05.240 which

01:08:06.160 sadly

01:08:06.820 that's

01:08:07.240 something

01:08:07.460 that you

01:08:07.780 see

01:08:08.100 quite often

01:08:09.020 in cross

01:08:09.960 examination

01:08:10.360 periods

01:08:11.040 so a lot

01:08:12.600 of this

01:08:12.860 I believe

01:08:13.220 will be

01:08:13.460 quite easy

01:08:13.940 for me

01:08:14.380 now one

01:08:15.380 thing

01:08:15.780 that I

01:08:17.500 want to

01:08:17.840 ask of

01:08:18.240 you

01:08:18.340 I know

01:08:18.680 that we

01:08:18.920 have many

01:08:19.340 people

01:08:19.680 that are

01:08:20.460 in our

01:08:20.760 audience

01:08:21.140 that are

01:08:21.760 apologists

01:08:23.060 that many

01:08:23.940 of you

01:08:24.200 are brilliant

01:08:24.720 scholars

01:08:25.200 in your

01:08:25.680 own right

01:08:26.140 and so

01:08:26.540 forth

01:08:26.880 I would

01:08:27.980 ask please

01:08:28.680 though

01:08:29.020 that you

01:08:30.040 refrain from

01:08:30.800 commenting

01:08:31.300 out loud

01:08:32.020 during the

01:08:32.640 debate

01:08:33.040 and holding

01:08:34.840 your own

01:08:35.300 debate

01:08:35.680 or your

01:08:36.240 responses

01:08:36.700 to

01:08:37.260 Adnan

01:08:38.300 or to

01:08:38.840 Dr.

01:08:39.160 White

01:08:39.380 if you

01:08:40.600 could

01:08:40.780 please

01:08:41.300 I would

01:08:41.780 ask

01:08:42.320 please

01:08:43.180 keep

01:08:44.140 the

01:08:44.320 chatter

01:08:44.560 down

01:08:44.880 during

01:08:45.260 the

01:08:45.420 debate

01:08:45.680 please

01:08:46.080 I've

01:08:46.860 already

01:08:47.020 had

01:08:47.180 many

01:08:47.360 people

01:08:47.600 come up

01:08:47.900 to me

01:08:48.140 and

01:08:48.340 complain

01:08:49.280 about

01:08:49.540 some

01:08:49.740 of

01:08:49.820 these

01:08:49.960 things

01:08:50.260 we're

01:08:50.820 all

01:08:51.000 Christians

01:08:51.380 let's

01:08:52.620 just

01:08:52.800 say

01:08:53.060 that

01:08:53.360 even

01:08:54.180 during

01:08:54.640 well

01:08:55.400 not all

01:08:55.880 of us

01:08:56.040 are

01:08:56.140 Christians

01:08:56.360 sorry

01:08:57.200 yes

01:08:58.820 I know

01:08:59.200 yes

01:09:00.180 we do

01:09:00.420 have a

01:09:00.640 mixed

01:09:00.800 audiences

01:09:01.160 which is

01:09:01.480 what we

01:09:01.700 wanted

01:09:01.960 anyway

01:09:02.200 yes

01:09:02.540 but we

01:09:03.700 all

01:09:04.000 do

01:09:04.320 want to

01:09:04.540 respect

01:09:04.820 each

01:09:05.060 other

01:09:05.280 and

01:09:05.660 if

01:09:06.520 you

01:09:08.300 although

01:09:08.420 I

01:09:08.620 was

01:09:08.780 not

01:09:08.960 able

01:09:09.160 to

01:09:09.500 keep

01:09:09.860 my

01:09:10.000 mouth

01:09:10.160 shut

01:09:10.380 during

01:09:10.640 the

01:09:10.820 last

01:09:11.180 Star Wars

01:09:11.840 film

01:09:12.120 and

01:09:12.860 throwing

01:09:13.060 my

01:09:13.240 popcorn

01:09:13.580 at

01:09:13.760 the

01:09:13.860 screen

01:09:14.100 and

01:09:14.700 nearly

01:09:14.880 getting

01:09:15.100 kicked

01:09:15.300 out

01:09:15.520 I

01:09:16.800 would

01:09:17.260 just

01:09:17.560 hope

01:09:17.880 that

01:09:18.060 you

01:09:18.220 could

01:09:18.400 respect

01:09:18.980 the

01:09:20.120 event

01:09:20.420 itself

01:09:20.880 other

01:09:21.400 people

01:09:21.700 have

01:09:21.860 paid

01:09:22.140 and

01:09:22.600 have

01:09:22.720 taken

01:09:22.980 pains

01:09:23.480 to

01:09:23.700 be

01:09:23.860 here

01:09:24.120 I

01:09:25.600 would

01:09:25.900 imagine

01:09:26.160 many

01:09:26.420 of you

01:09:26.660 that

01:09:26.760 are

01:09:26.840 here

01:09:27.000 are

01:09:27.100 not

01:09:27.280 native

01:09:27.660 Floridians

01:09:28.480 or Georgians

01:09:29.040 that you're

01:09:30.000 able to

01:09:30.320 drive for

01:09:30.740 the snow

01:09:31.020 to get

01:09:31.320 here

01:09:31.520 but

01:09:32.340 if

01:09:38.300 and

01:09:38.480 to

01:09:38.580 be

01:09:38.720 able

01:09:38.960 to

01:09:39.480 then

01:09:39.820 formulate

01:09:40.460 those

01:09:40.720 things

01:09:40.960 in

01:09:41.220 their

01:09:41.400 own

01:09:41.660 minds

01:09:42.180 and

01:09:43.140 with

01:09:43.440 that

01:09:43.800 we

01:09:45.000 are

01:09:45.240 going

01:09:45.600 to

01:09:45.840 start

01:09:46.380 the

01:09:47.080 cross

01:09:47.360 examination

01:09:47.760 period

01:09:48.500 Dr.

01:09:49.280 White

01:09:49.500 cross

01:09:49.860 examining

01:09:50.340 Adnan

01:09:50.920 Rashid

01:09:51.340 and

01:09:51.820 then

01:09:52.060 Mr.

01:09:52.760 Rashid

01:09:53.080 will

01:09:53.280 be

01:09:53.540 cross

01:09:54.020 examining

01:09:54.440 Dr.

01:09:55.000 White

01:09:55.200 I

01:09:58.160 have

01:10:00.160 a timer

01:10:00.520 so we're

01:10:00.900 good

01:10:01.140 okay

01:10:02.200 Adnan

01:10:02.620 before

01:10:02.980 everyone

01:10:03.380 forgets

01:10:03.960 what you

01:10:04.300 were

01:10:04.420 just

01:10:04.620 saying

01:10:04.980 well

01:10:05.740 everyone

01:10:05.980 already

01:10:06.240 has

01:10:06.540 but

01:10:06.720 we'll

01:10:06.960 assume

01:10:07.700 that

01:10:07.860 they

01:10:07.980 haven't

01:10:08.280 you

01:10:09.320 just

01:10:09.840 quoted

01:10:10.460 from

01:10:11.540 1 Corinthians

01:10:12.280 chapter

01:10:12.860 6

01:10:13.640 verses

01:10:14.660 9

01:10:15.240 through

01:10:15.420 10

01:10:15.700 and

01:10:18.080 you

01:10:18.800 basically

01:10:19.280 said

01:10:19.740 well

01:10:20.020 then

01:10:20.700 for whom

01:10:21.060 did

01:10:21.220 Christ

01:10:21.480 die

01:10:21.820 was

01:10:22.320 that

01:10:22.680 what

01:10:23.220 I

01:10:23.300 understood

01:10:23.520 you

01:10:23.680 were

01:10:23.800 saying

01:10:24.020 yeah

01:10:24.540 okay

01:10:25.160 do

01:10:26.460 you

01:10:26.620 have

01:10:27.120 a

01:10:27.740 Bible

01:10:27.960 program

01:10:28.280 up

01:10:28.620 or

01:10:28.920 could

01:10:29.280 you

01:10:29.380 use

01:10:29.580 that

01:10:29.740 really

01:10:29.940 nice

01:10:30.280 ESV

01:10:30.680 study

01:10:30.980 Bible

01:10:31.280 I

01:10:31.460 gave

01:10:31.640 you

01:10:31.860 or

01:10:32.100 whatever

01:10:32.820 however

01:10:33.340 could

01:10:34.260 you

01:10:34.640 read

01:10:34.940 the

01:10:35.360 very

01:10:35.580 next

01:10:36.000 verse

01:10:36.440 after

01:10:37.560 the

01:10:37.700 one

01:10:37.840 you

01:10:37.960 quoted

01:10:38.240 you

01:10:38.560 want

01:10:38.700 me

01:10:38.800 to

01:10:38.900 read

01:10:39.040 now

01:10:39.280 well

01:10:39.620 I

01:10:39.800 can

01:10:39.920 read

01:10:40.080 it

01:10:40.180 for you

01:10:40.460 if you

01:10:40.640 like

01:10:40.800 go ahead

01:10:41.460 go ahead

01:10:42.120 yeah

01:10:42.300 such

01:10:43.920 were

01:10:44.720 some

01:10:45.660 of you

01:10:46.140 but you

01:10:47.140 were washed

01:10:47.800 but you

01:10:48.440 were sanctified

01:10:49.320 but you

01:10:49.720 were justified

01:10:50.460 in the name

01:10:51.220 of the Lord

01:10:51.520 Jesus

01:10:51.800 Christ

01:10:52.280 in the

01:10:52.700 spirit

01:10:52.940 of our

01:10:53.260 God

01:10:53.600 so

01:10:54.760 the

01:10:55.500 statement

01:10:56.020 the

01:10:57.520 the

01:10:58.760 the

01:10:59.680 idolaters

01:11:02.360 fornicators

01:11:02.960 thieves

01:11:03.500 covetous

01:11:04.100 drunkards

01:11:04.760 swindlers

01:11:05.300 such

01:11:06.840 were

01:11:07.340 some

01:11:07.720 of you

01:11:08.080 but there

01:11:08.500 was a

01:11:08.820 radical

01:11:09.140 change

01:11:09.680 but you

01:11:10.140 were washed

01:11:10.680 but you

01:11:10.980 were sanctified

01:11:11.620 the only way

01:11:12.520 you could be

01:11:12.780 washed

01:11:13.120 is in the

01:11:13.500 blood of

01:11:13.780 Christ

01:11:14.080 so

01:11:14.440 doesn't

01:11:15.780 doesn't

01:11:16.240 the text

01:11:16.740 actually

01:11:17.160 answer

01:11:17.720 the question

01:11:18.380 and that

01:11:18.800 is

01:11:19.140 anyone

01:11:20.560 who can

01:11:21.260 turn

01:11:21.620 in faith

01:11:22.380 anyone

01:11:22.780 who turns

01:11:23.240 in faith

01:11:23.620 to Jesus

01:11:24.040 Christ

01:11:24.540 even

01:11:25.660 these

01:11:25.960 people

01:11:26.220 listed

01:11:26.600 here

01:11:26.920 will

01:11:27.400 find

01:11:27.740 him

01:11:27.940 to be

01:11:28.180 the

01:11:28.320 one

01:11:28.540 who

01:11:28.720 is

01:11:28.880 able

01:11:29.100 to

01:11:29.400 bring

01:11:29.700 about

01:11:29.920 their

01:11:30.120 sanctification

01:11:30.780 and justification

01:11:31.360 isn't that

01:11:32.540 what the very next

01:11:33.340 verse says

01:11:33.860 yes it does

01:11:35.600 but you have to

01:11:36.540 read Paul

01:11:37.040 holistically

01:11:37.460 right

01:11:37.820 this is what

01:11:38.580 I've learned

01:11:38.980 from you

01:11:39.420 you have to

01:11:41.220 read Paul

01:11:41.800 holistically

01:11:42.380 holistically

01:11:43.200 yes

01:11:43.680 right

01:11:44.220 and when

01:11:45.240 you read

01:11:45.580 Paul

01:11:45.960 I mean

01:11:46.340 for example

01:11:46.820 Hebrews

01:11:47.200 6

01:11:47.740 4

01:11:48.160 6

01:11:48.520 it is

01:11:49.260 impossible

01:11:49.680 for those

01:11:50.320 who have

01:11:50.620 once

01:11:51.020 been

01:11:51.380 enlightened

01:11:51.880 who have

01:11:53.360 tasted

01:11:53.840 the heavenly

01:11:55.760 gift

01:11:56.140 who have

01:11:56.700 shared

01:11:57.100 in the

01:11:57.580 Holy Spirit

01:11:58.080 who have

01:11:58.720 tasted

01:11:59.120 the goodness

01:11:59.580 of the

01:11:59.900 word

01:12:00.180 of God

01:12:00.980 and the

01:12:01.600 powers

01:12:02.000 of the

01:12:02.400 coming

01:12:02.700 age

01:12:03.460 and who

01:12:04.080 have

01:12:04.220 fallen

01:12:04.500 away

01:12:04.860 to be

01:12:05.360 brought

01:12:05.560 back

01:12:05.780 to repentance

01:12:06.300 so here

01:12:07.400 Paul is

01:12:07.780 talking about

01:12:08.240 someone who

01:12:08.700 has had

01:12:09.300 the Holy

01:12:09.760 Spirit

01:12:10.120 someone

01:12:10.800 who has

01:12:11.760 been

01:12:12.320 enlightened

01:12:12.720 someone who

01:12:13.420 has

01:12:13.580 believed

01:12:14.140 in the

01:12:14.540 sacrifice

01:12:14.920 of Jesus

01:12:15.240 Christ

01:12:15.600 and if

01:12:16.560 someone

01:12:16.980 goes away

01:12:18.100 it is

01:12:18.380 impossible

01:12:18.740 to bring

01:12:19.140 such a

01:12:19.420 person

01:12:19.640 back

01:12:19.960 so there

01:12:20.920 is no

01:12:21.160 salvation

01:12:21.600 if you

01:12:22.540 have

01:12:22.900 believed

01:12:23.260 in the

01:12:23.540 cross

01:12:23.820 and somehow

01:12:24.940 break the

01:12:25.980 rules of

01:12:26.360 the cross

01:12:26.780 whatever they

01:12:27.520 are

01:12:27.800 you cannot

01:12:28.600 be brought

01:12:29.260 back

01:12:29.620 according to

01:12:30.480 this passage

01:12:30.880 this is how

01:12:31.360 I understand

01:12:31.760 it

01:12:32.280 guess

01:12:32.560 what the

01:12:34.440 passage of

01:12:35.240 the sermon

01:12:35.760 from last

01:12:36.300 Sunday

01:12:36.600 that I

01:12:36.880 preached

01:12:37.140 was

01:12:37.420 Hebrews

01:12:38.980 chapter 6

01:12:39.660 how do you

01:12:42.480 respond to that

01:12:43.140 then

01:12:43.380 it's my turn

01:12:45.140 to ask you

01:12:45.520 questions

01:12:45.860 I'd love to

01:12:46.440 do that

01:12:46.780 but if you

01:12:47.420 have it

01:12:47.840 up

01:12:48.160 you could

01:12:49.320 look at

01:12:49.620 verses 9

01:12:50.220 and 10

01:12:50.680 and you'll

01:12:51.180 notice that

01:12:51.660 Paul says

01:12:52.280 we're not

01:12:53.840 sure that

01:12:54.200 Paul wrote

01:12:54.620 Hebrews

01:12:54.940 you directly

01:12:55.740 said that

01:12:56.080 he was

01:12:56.360 but I

01:12:57.200 theoretically

01:12:57.640 think that

01:12:58.120 he did

01:12:58.380 but that's

01:12:58.840 another issue

01:13:00.080 the writer

01:13:01.780 specifically

01:13:02.420 states

01:13:02.960 but we

01:13:03.360 are convinced

01:13:03.980 of better

01:13:04.620 things

01:13:05.000 concerning

01:13:05.440 you

01:13:05.700 things

01:13:06.380 which

01:13:06.660 accompany

01:13:07.140 salvation

01:13:07.960 so

01:13:09.380 I think

01:13:10.800 that is

01:13:11.360 a misapplication

01:13:12.300 of Hebrews

01:13:12.820 6

01:13:13.320 first of all

01:13:14.280 especially

01:13:14.700 with what

01:13:14.960 comes

01:13:15.180 afterwards

01:13:15.660 to the

01:13:15.880 end

01:13:15.980 of the

01:13:16.140 chapter

01:13:16.420 but going

01:13:17.320 back to

01:13:17.820 1 Corinthians

01:13:18.260 chapter 6

01:13:19.000 the point

01:13:20.460 is

01:13:21.140 and you

01:13:22.140 said

01:13:22.340 reading

01:13:22.600 him

01:13:22.800 holistically

01:13:23.260 well first

01:13:23.760 you've got

01:13:23.960 to read

01:13:24.200 him in

01:13:24.400 his

01:13:24.540 initial

01:13:24.900 context

01:13:25.540 he is

01:13:27.220 saying

01:13:27.600 that

01:13:27.820 all

01:13:28.280 of these

01:13:28.580 kinds

01:13:28.880 of

01:13:29.020 people

01:13:29.260 can

01:13:29.460 be

01:13:29.640 saved

01:13:30.020 because

01:13:30.360 of

01:13:30.660 the

01:13:30.780 cross

01:13:31.220 would

01:13:32.060 you

01:13:32.160 at

01:13:32.320 least

01:13:32.500 say

01:13:32.700 that

01:13:32.860 that's

01:13:33.060 what's

01:13:33.260 being

01:13:33.480 said

01:13:33.760 in

01:13:33.900 1 Corinthians

01:13:34.380 chapter 6

01:13:35.080 okay

01:13:35.820 let's

01:13:36.120 assume

01:13:36.400 that's

01:13:36.680 true

01:13:36.880 let's

01:13:37.380 assume

01:13:37.600 for a

01:13:37.860 second

01:13:38.000 that's

01:13:38.300 true

01:13:38.500 does

01:13:39.920 that

01:13:40.100 mean

01:13:40.340 that

01:13:40.540 anyone

01:13:40.780 who

01:13:40.960 believes

01:13:41.220 in

01:13:41.340 the

01:13:41.460 cross

01:13:41.700 can

01:13:41.920 do

01:13:42.060 all

01:13:42.240 those

01:13:42.420 things

01:13:42.700 I'm

01:13:43.640 not

01:13:43.780 saying

01:13:44.000 they

01:13:44.180 wouldn't

01:13:44.620 I'm

01:13:44.860 not

01:13:45.000 asking

01:13:45.280 whether

01:13:45.540 they

01:13:45.740 would

01:13:46.040 if

01:13:47.000 someone

01:13:47.320 who

01:13:47.500 believes

01:13:47.720 in

01:13:47.800 the

01:13:47.920 cross

01:13:48.220 and

01:13:48.860 continues

01:13:49.360 to

01:13:49.540 commit

01:13:49.740 adultery

01:13:50.220 and

01:13:51.660 drink

01:13:52.740 fornicate

01:13:53.760 lie

01:13:54.380 cheat

01:13:54.820 steal

01:13:55.500 right

01:13:55.900 are you

01:13:56.200 familiar

01:13:56.460 with

01:13:56.840 Paul's

01:13:57.680 words

01:13:57.960 in

01:13:58.120 the

01:13:58.260 book

01:13:58.380 of

01:13:58.480 Romans

01:13:58.740 when

01:13:58.960 he

01:13:59.080 says

01:13:59.420 shall

01:14:00.220 we

01:14:00.420 continue

01:14:01.020 in

01:14:01.360 sin

01:14:01.680 that

01:14:01.900 grace

01:14:02.280 may

01:14:02.500 increase

01:14:03.020 may

01:14:03.660 it

01:14:03.880 never

01:14:04.200 be

01:14:04.600 how

01:14:04.920 shall

01:14:05.160 we

01:14:05.280 who

01:14:05.440 died

01:14:05.820 to

01:14:06.020 sin

01:14:06.260 still

01:14:06.580 live

01:14:06.720 in

01:14:06.840 it

01:14:07.020 I

01:14:07.340 know

01:14:07.620 of

01:14:07.800 that

01:14:08.040 I'm

01:14:08.460 asking

01:14:08.760 I'm

01:14:09.440 not

01:14:09.560 asking

01:14:09.860 whether

01:14:10.080 they

01:14:10.420 would

01:14:10.780 I'm

01:14:11.120 asking

01:14:11.400 if

01:14:11.780 they

01:14:12.000 would

01:14:12.280 if

01:14:13.000 they

01:14:13.220 did

01:14:13.560 let's

01:14:14.620 say

01:14:14.720 someone

01:14:15.020 who

01:14:16.080 believes

01:14:16.400 in

01:14:16.520 the

01:14:16.640 cross

01:14:16.940 who

01:14:17.280 believes

01:14:17.660 in

01:14:17.780 the

01:14:17.880 sacrifice

01:14:18.280 of

01:14:18.460 Jesus

01:14:18.620 Christ

01:14:18.960 who

01:14:19.120 died

01:14:19.280 for

01:14:19.440 our

01:14:19.580 sins

01:14:19.840 if

01:14:21.920 someone

01:14:22.340 was

01:14:23.420 to

01:14:23.580 commit

01:14:23.760 those

01:14:24.000 sins

01:14:24.340 what

01:14:25.760 would

01:14:25.900 you

01:14:26.000 say

01:14:26.160 about

01:14:26.380 that

01:14:26.700 that

01:14:27.460 would

01:14:27.560 be

01:14:27.620 a

01:14:27.720 good

01:14:27.820 question

01:14:28.200 for

01:14:28.420 you

01:14:28.520 to

01:14:28.640 ask

01:14:28.840 me

01:14:29.020 during

01:14:29.400 your

01:14:30.000 time

01:14:30.620 to

01:14:30.780 ask

01:14:30.920 me

01:14:31.040 questions

01:14:31.360 we're

01:14:31.640 trying

01:14:32.180 to be

01:14:32.440 focused

01:14:32.700 on

01:14:32.880 something

01:14:33.060 here

01:14:33.240 okay

01:14:33.820 you

01:14:35.640 have

01:14:35.920 stated

01:14:36.940 a

01:14:37.960 number

01:14:38.160 of

01:14:38.300 times

01:14:38.680 that

01:14:39.100 you

01:14:40.620 believe

01:14:41.100 that

01:14:41.320 the

01:14:41.460 apostle

01:14:41.820 Paul

01:14:42.280 is

01:14:42.900 opposed

01:14:43.780 to

01:14:44.100 the

01:14:44.240 law

01:14:44.480 that

01:14:46.080 he

01:14:46.700 teaches

01:14:47.440 somehow

01:14:47.880 in a

01:14:48.260 way

01:14:48.400 that

01:14:48.540 is

01:14:48.680 completely

01:14:49.200 opposed

01:14:51.140 to

01:14:51.380 Jesus

01:14:51.780 and

01:14:52.320 the

01:14:52.460 apostles

01:14:52.880 on

01:14:53.460 the

01:14:53.620 issue

01:14:53.920 of

01:14:54.380 the

01:14:55.780 law

01:14:56.060 could

01:14:56.320 I

01:14:56.460 direct

01:14:56.820 your

01:14:56.940 attention

01:14:57.340 to

01:14:57.620 Romans

01:14:57.900 chapter

01:14:58.300 three

01:14:58.780 for

01:14:59.000 a

01:14:59.180 second

01:14:59.420 assuming

01:15:00.320 that

01:15:00.580 you

01:15:01.100 would

01:15:01.240 agree

01:15:01.420 with

01:15:01.600 me

01:15:01.760 that

01:15:01.980 Paul

01:15:02.420 I

01:15:02.660 don't

01:15:03.040 believe

01:15:03.280 Paul

01:15:03.640 was

01:15:04.180 opposed

01:15:04.520 to

01:15:04.680 the

01:15:04.820 law

01:15:05.020 I

01:15:05.200 don't

01:15:05.340 believe

01:15:05.560 that

01:15:05.820 I

01:15:06.060 believe

01:15:06.360 he

01:15:06.740 contradicted

01:15:07.860 the

01:15:09.220 Old

01:15:09.420 Testament

01:15:09.760 as

01:15:10.700 well

01:15:10.840 as

01:15:11.100 the

01:15:12.140 Jesus

01:15:12.440 tradition

01:15:13.000 and

01:15:14.280 James

01:15:15.160 okay

01:15:16.120 he

01:15:16.360 contradicted

01:15:17.160 it

01:15:17.520 by

01:15:18.420 stating

01:15:19.720 it

01:15:19.940 was

01:15:20.220 not

01:15:20.600 God's

01:15:21.080 law

01:15:21.460 or

01:15:21.900 what

01:15:22.540 he

01:15:22.980 simply

01:15:23.380 stated

01:15:23.780 that

01:15:24.020 you

01:15:24.160 have

01:15:24.340 to

01:15:24.480 believe

01:15:24.720 in

01:15:24.860 the

01:15:24.980 cross

01:15:25.240 or

01:15:25.400 you

01:15:25.520 have

01:15:25.660 to

01:15:25.780 believe

01:15:25.980 in

01:15:26.100 Jesus

01:15:26.260 Christ

01:15:26.600 and

01:15:26.780 you

01:15:26.940 don't

01:15:27.080 need

01:15:27.220 to

01:15:27.360 follow

01:15:27.540 the

01:15:27.720 law

01:15:27.900 or

01:15:28.040 do

01:15:28.160 good

01:15:28.760 deeds

01:15:29.060 there

01:15:29.460 are

01:15:29.580 plenty

01:15:29.780 of

01:15:29.920 passages

01:15:30.180 I

01:15:30.400 can

01:15:30.620 quote

01:15:31.300 in

01:15:31.460 this

01:15:31.580 regard

01:15:31.900 okay

01:15:32.260 but

01:15:32.600 good

01:15:32.940 when

01:15:33.440 you

01:15:33.580 say

01:15:33.800 you

01:15:34.320 don't

01:15:34.540 have

01:15:34.780 to

01:15:34.920 do

01:15:35.100 good

01:15:35.440 deeds

01:15:35.940 so

01:15:37.000 your

01:15:37.260 understanding

01:15:37.880 is

01:15:38.120 he

01:15:38.280 was

01:15:38.480 saying

01:15:38.760 that

01:15:38.940 your

01:15:39.140 good

01:15:39.500 deeds

01:15:39.840 cannot

01:15:40.140 save

01:15:40.640 you

01:15:40.940 no

01:15:41.720 my

01:15:42.000 understanding

01:15:42.460 is

01:15:42.700 that

01:15:42.820 you

01:15:42.920 do

01:15:43.080 not

01:15:43.240 have

01:15:43.560 to

01:15:43.760 do

01:15:44.260 good

01:15:44.500 deeds

01:15:44.780 for

01:15:44.980 salvation

01:15:45.620 to

01:15:46.380 gain

01:15:46.820 it

01:15:47.120 or

01:15:48.020 or

01:15:48.640 that

01:15:48.800 it's

01:15:56.260 and

01:15:56.700 you

01:15:56.820 have

01:15:56.960 salvation

01:15:57.420 without

01:15:57.980 works

01:15:58.420 and

01:15:59.380 so

01:16:00.200 when

01:16:00.620 you

01:16:00.740 want me

01:16:00.960 to

01:16:01.060 read

01:16:01.220 some

01:16:01.380 passages

01:16:01.680 well

01:16:01.920 believe

01:16:02.380 me

01:16:02.560 I

01:16:02.860 I'm

01:16:03.800 just

01:16:03.980 wanting

01:16:04.360 to

01:16:04.560 ask

01:16:04.780 you

01:16:04.900 I'm

01:16:05.000 just

01:16:05.140 asking

01:16:05.480 you

01:16:05.640 to

01:16:05.800 explicate

01:16:06.400 why

01:16:07.580 then

01:16:07.940 does

01:16:08.280 he

01:16:08.520 say

01:16:09.100 that

01:16:09.560 it

01:16:09.720 is

01:16:10.120 God's

01:16:11.120 purpose

01:16:11.500 that

01:16:11.900 we

01:16:12.060 walk

01:16:12.500 in

01:16:12.740 good

01:16:12.960 works

01:16:13.400 walking

01:16:16.740 in

01:16:17.320 or

01:16:18.920 doing

01:16:19.300 good

01:16:19.520 works

01:16:19.800 do

01:16:19.980 you

01:16:20.040 want

01:16:20.160 me

01:16:20.260 to

01:16:20.340 give

01:16:20.440 the

01:16:20.560 text

01:16:20.780 I'm

01:16:20.940 sorry

01:16:21.100 I

01:16:21.220 forgot

01:16:21.360 to

01:16:21.500 give

01:16:21.620 the

01:16:21.760 text

01:16:21.900 do

01:16:22.420 you

01:16:22.460 want

01:16:26.260 deeds

01:16:26.540 is

01:16:26.660 one

01:16:26.860 thing

01:16:27.080 I'm

01:16:28.120 not

01:16:28.260 saying

01:16:28.460 Paul

01:16:28.940 is

01:16:29.300 telling

01:16:29.520 people

01:16:29.780 not

01:16:30.040 to

01:16:30.200 do

01:16:30.300 good

01:16:30.480 deeds

01:16:30.740 I

01:16:30.900 never

01:16:31.100 claimed

01:16:31.420 that

01:16:31.700 I

01:16:32.100 never

01:16:32.320 claimed

01:16:32.640 that

01:16:32.860 and

01:16:33.020 I

01:16:33.280 never

01:16:33.600 will

01:16:33.840 claim

01:16:34.100 that

01:16:34.380 I'm

01:16:35.160 saying

01:16:35.440 Paul's

01:16:35.980 view

01:16:36.180 was

01:16:36.440 that

01:16:36.640 you

01:16:37.100 just

01:16:37.300 have

01:16:37.500 to

01:16:37.640 believe

01:16:37.920 in

01:16:38.080 Jesus

01:16:38.260 Christ

01:16:38.660 sacrifice

01:16:39.400 and

01:16:40.080 you

01:16:40.200 have

01:16:40.340 salvation

01:16:40.800 and

01:16:42.060 when

01:16:42.220 we

01:16:42.360 read

01:16:42.580 others

01:16:43.160 they

01:16:43.920 say

01:16:44.120 they're

01:16:44.600 contradicting

01:16:45.120 him

01:16:45.340 people

01:16:45.700 like

01:16:45.920 James

01:16:46.280 in

01:16:46.640 chapter

01:16:46.820 2

01:16:47.040 James

01:16:47.280 is

01:16:47.420 simply

01:16:47.760 in

01:16:48.520 fact

01:16:48.740 calling

01:16:49.180 someone

01:16:49.660 a fool

01:16:50.320 for

01:16:50.620 believing

01:16:50.920 that

01:16:51.220 I

01:16:52.040 don't

01:16:52.160 know

01:16:52.300 some

01:16:52.580 people

01:16:52.840 claim

01:16:53.120 that

01:16:53.320 James

01:16:53.940 like

01:16:54.360 for

01:16:54.520 example

01:16:54.780 do

01:16:54.960 you

01:16:55.080 want

01:16:55.320 to

01:16:55.460 be

01:16:55.680 shown

01:16:56.360 you

01:16:56.940 senseless

01:16:57.520 person

01:16:58.080 that

01:16:58.660 faith

01:16:59.080 apart

01:16:59.480 from

01:16:59.700 works

01:16:59.960 is

01:17:00.100 barren

01:17:00.560 was

01:17:02.020 not

01:17:02.220 our

01:17:02.420 ancestor

01:17:02.840 Abraham

01:17:03.440 justified

01:17:03.940 by

01:17:04.220 works

01:17:04.540 when

01:17:04.780 he

01:17:04.940 offered

01:17:05.220 his

01:17:05.420 son

01:17:05.640 Isaac

01:17:06.100 on

01:17:06.960 the

01:17:07.360 altar

01:17:07.700 right

01:17:08.140 now

01:17:08.360 this

01:17:08.680 is

01:17:09.220 from

01:17:09.380 Genesis

01:17:09.680 15

01:17:10.160 right

01:17:10.760 no

01:17:11.800 Genesis

01:17:12.300 22

01:17:12.720 no

01:17:13.300 15

01:17:13.860 Genesis

01:17:14.260 15

01:17:14.680 this

01:17:14.900 is

01:17:15.020 from

01:17:15.160 Genesis

01:17:15.420 15

01:17:15.660 not

01:17:15.860 when

01:17:15.940 he

01:17:16.040 offers

01:17:16.300 sacrifice

01:17:16.880 no

01:17:17.260 this

01:17:18.060 passage

01:17:18.520 is

01:17:18.680 from

01:17:18.820 Genesis

01:17:19.100 15

01:17:19.760 6

01:17:20.260 if

01:17:20.740 I

01:17:20.860 don't

01:17:21.340 well

01:17:21.580 that's

01:17:21.900 that

01:17:22.160 if

01:17:23.600 you're

01:17:23.820 talking

01:17:24.060 about

01:17:24.280 offering

01:17:24.640 are you

01:17:24.840 talking

01:17:25.000 about

01:17:25.120 the

01:17:25.200 offering

01:17:25.440 of

01:17:25.560 Isaac

01:17:25.780 yes

01:17:27.120 that's

01:17:27.520 not

01:17:27.680 Genesis

01:17:27.940 15

01:17:28.260 I'm

01:17:28.680 talking

01:17:28.980 about

01:17:29.300 Abraham's

01:17:30.100 initial

01:17:31.560 justification

01:17:32.160 yeah

01:17:32.700 yeah

01:17:32.980 that's

01:17:33.280 right

01:17:33.420 that's

01:17:33.600 Genesis

01:17:33.780 15

01:17:34.160 6

01:17:34.480 yeah

01:17:34.840 yeah

01:17:35.180 that's

01:17:35.680 it

01:17:35.820 so

01:17:36.380 James

01:17:37.360 is

01:17:37.580 quoting

01:17:37.960 that

01:17:38.360 so

01:17:39.320 is

01:17:39.500 Paul

01:17:39.880 Paul

01:17:40.440 takes

01:17:40.800 a

01:17:40.980 completely

01:17:41.520 different

01:17:41.940 view

01:17:42.240 of

01:17:42.660 that

01:17:42.840 passage

01:17:43.280 that

01:17:43.760 very

01:17:44.240 verse

01:17:44.660 or that

01:17:45.140 passage

01:17:45.540 from

01:17:46.420 James

01:17:46.760 so

01:17:47.280 have

01:17:47.480 you

01:17:47.620 read

01:17:48.280 my

01:17:48.800 24

01:17:49.220 page

01:17:49.600 chapter

01:17:49.980 on

01:17:50.180 James

01:17:50.420 chapter

01:17:50.720 2

01:17:50.980 which

01:17:51.300 deals

01:17:51.920 with

01:17:52.220 this

01:17:52.500 in

01:17:52.900 depth

01:17:53.220 right

01:17:54.020 but

01:17:55.200 does

01:17:55.400 it

01:17:55.600 clarify

01:17:56.420 does

01:17:56.740 it

01:17:56.900 justify

01:17:57.380 I

01:17:57.740 certainly

01:17:58.220 think

01:17:58.500 it

01:17:58.700 did

01:17:58.960 I

01:18:00.040 wonder

01:18:01.400 if

01:18:01.580 Luther

01:18:01.900 couldn't

01:18:02.580 or

01:18:02.860 others

01:18:03.520 like

01:18:03.880 Luther

01:18:04.240 couldn't

01:18:05.140 reconcile

01:18:06.120 James

01:18:06.460 and

01:18:06.660 Paul

01:18:06.960 I

01:18:07.240 don't

01:18:07.340 know

01:18:07.440 how

01:18:07.560 we

01:18:07.720 can

01:18:07.840 do

01:18:07.960 it

01:18:08.060 today

01:18:08.280 I'll

01:18:08.620 try

01:18:08.800 to

01:18:08.940 fit

01:18:09.560 it

01:18:09.680 into

01:18:09.880 my

01:18:10.060 closing

01:18:10.340 to

01:18:10.540 explain

01:18:10.880 why

01:18:11.580 that

01:18:11.800 is

01:18:12.020 but

01:18:12.300 the

01:18:13.660 point

01:18:14.280 is

01:18:14.600 it

01:18:15.940 sounds

01:18:16.440 like

01:18:16.780 you

01:18:17.000 think

01:18:17.580 that

01:18:18.580 James

01:18:19.340 is

01:18:19.800 saying

01:18:20.320 that

01:18:21.520 you

01:18:22.240 that

01:18:22.760 faith

01:18:23.260 in

01:18:23.560 Christ

01:18:24.080 is

01:18:24.600 not

01:18:24.980 enough

01:18:25.520 and

01:18:26.960 that

01:18:27.380 that's

01:18:27.840 only

01:18:28.060 part

01:18:28.460 of

01:18:28.600 it

01:18:28.720 and

01:18:28.900 that

01:18:29.040 your

01:18:29.180 good

01:18:29.440 works

01:18:29.720 have

01:18:29.920 merit

01:18:30.440 that

01:18:30.840 add

01:18:31.160 to

01:18:31.320 what

01:18:31.480 Christ

01:18:31.760 did

01:18:32.040 no

01:18:32.480 what

01:18:32.680 I

01:18:32.780 understand

01:18:33.160 from

01:18:33.380 James

01:18:33.640 is

01:18:33.760 James

01:18:34.000 is

01:18:34.160 saying

01:18:34.400 that

01:18:34.560 your

01:18:34.740 faith

01:18:35.200 alone

01:18:36.320 without

01:18:36.820 works

01:18:37.360 is

01:18:37.880 not

01:18:38.060 enough

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01:18:38.980 means

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01:18:41.360 by

01:18:42.840 works

01:18:43.340 is

01:18:45.420 real

01:18:46.520 faith

01:18:46.880 that's

01:18:47.440 real

01:18:47.660 faith

01:18:48.020 and

01:18:48.240 what

01:18:48.380 was

01:18:48.580 that

01:18:48.740 faith

01:18:49.060 in

01:18:49.340 that

01:18:50.340 faith

01:18:51.180 is

01:18:51.340 in

01:18:51.580 Jesus

01:18:52.340 Christ

01:18:52.800 of

01:18:53.280 course

01:18:53.600 which

01:18:53.940 you

01:18:54.060 don't

01:18:54.280 believe

01:18:54.520 in

01:18:54.760 which

01:18:55.480 who

01:18:55.820 you

01:18:56.280 don't

01:18:56.540 believe

01:18:56.860 that

01:18:57.040 faith

01:18:57.320 in

01:18:57.440 Jesus

01:18:57.660 Christ

01:18:57.980 is

01:18:58.160 going

01:18:58.260 to

01:18:58.340 save

01:18:58.520 you

01:18:58.540 I

01:18:58.560 believe

01:18:58.860 in

01:18:59.460 Jesus

01:18:59.640 Christ

01:19:00.080 I

01:19:02.460 know

01:19:03.100 you

01:19:03.220 believe

01:19:03.460 he's

01:19:03.620 the

01:19:03.720 Jewish

01:19:04.940 Messiah

01:19:05.420 and

01:19:05.660 I

01:19:05.740 don't

01:19:06.160 believe

01:19:06.580 in

01:19:06.760 Jesus

01:19:06.960 Christ

01:19:07.300 like

01:19:07.560 Christians

01:19:08.160 do

01:19:08.360 today

01:19:08.580 no

01:19:08.780 I

01:19:08.940 don't

01:19:09.220 or

01:19:09.420 as

01:19:09.720 James

01:19:11.360 I

01:19:11.920 believe

01:19:12.200 I

01:19:12.380 mean

01:19:12.520 look

01:19:13.100 that's

01:19:13.400 another

01:19:13.600 issue

01:19:13.840 now

01:19:14.060 do

01:19:14.680 we

01:19:14.880 have

01:19:15.180 what

01:19:15.580 James

01:19:16.120 might

01:19:17.640 have

01:19:17.800 written

01:19:18.080 completely

01:19:18.660 do

01:19:19.360 we

01:19:19.500 have

01:19:19.700 I

01:19:20.020 mean

01:19:20.160 the

01:19:20.440 epistle

01:19:20.680 of

01:19:20.840 James

01:19:21.060 was

01:19:21.220 problematic

01:19:21.600 right

01:19:22.020 I'm

01:19:22.740 trying

01:19:22.920 to

01:19:23.060 help

01:19:23.260 you

01:19:23.380 here

01:19:23.600 problematic

01:19:24.120 yeah

01:19:24.900 it

01:19:25.820 was

01:19:26.180 considered

01:19:27.080 non

01:19:27.380 canonical

01:19:27.740 by

01:19:28.140 many

01:19:28.440 church

01:19:28.700 fathers

01:19:29.000 as

01:19:29.240 you

01:19:29.420 are

01:19:29.720 well

01:19:29.940 aware

01:19:30.120 of

01:19:30.280 it

01:19:30.440 it

01:19:31.740 is

01:19:31.920 missing

01:19:32.760 in

01:19:33.000 the

01:19:33.120 list

01:19:33.360 of

01:19:33.640 many

01:19:33.900 church

01:19:34.180 fathers

01:19:34.520 and

01:19:36.300 Luther

01:19:36.880 actually

01:19:37.600 in

01:19:37.880 his

01:19:38.040 writings

01:19:38.460 alludes

01:19:39.400 to

01:19:39.560 that

01:19:39.740 point

01:19:40.080 that

01:19:40.600 James

01:19:41.060 was

01:19:41.320 not

01:19:41.540 even

01:19:41.740 considered

01:19:42.220 canonical

01:19:42.720 by

01:19:42.960 many

01:19:43.260 church

01:19:43.500 fathers

01:19:43.780 for

01:19:44.020 the

01:19:44.160 reasons

01:19:44.740 he

01:19:44.920 stated

01:19:45.280 that

01:19:45.900 it

01:19:46.200 contradicts

01:19:46.920 Paul

01:19:47.240 and

01:19:48.360 it

01:19:48.580 lacks

01:19:51.240 apostolic

01:19:52.060 authority

01:19:53.520 these

01:19:54.540 are the

01:19:54.720 words

01:19:54.900 of

01:19:55.020 Luther

01:19:55.240 and

01:19:55.440 I

01:19:55.560 have

01:19:55.680 the

01:19:55.800 quotes

01:19:56.060 here

01:19:56.240 with

01:19:56.380 me

01:19:56.520 I

01:19:56.700 can

01:19:56.840 read

01:19:57.020 them

01:19:57.160 if

01:19:57.280 you

01:19:57.380 want

01:19:57.580 so

01:19:58.240 James

01:19:58.780 was

01:19:59.000 a

01:19:59.580 contested

01:20:00.140 book

01:20:00.460 right

01:20:01.560 the

01:20:01.740 time

01:20:01.920 is

01:20:02.100 up

01:20:02.640 okay

01:20:03.160 Mr.

01:20:03.760 Rashid's

01:20:04.280 time

01:20:04.660 to

01:20:05.000 ask

01:20:05.380 Dr.

01:20:05.780 White

01:20:05.940 questions

01:20:06.300 and

01:20:06.420 we'll

01:20:06.520 just

01:20:06.740 go ahead

01:20:07.340 and

01:20:07.440 repeat

01:20:07.720 again

01:20:08.040 is

01:20:08.200 that

01:20:08.340 we

01:20:08.480 do

01:20:08.600 want

01:20:08.740 to

01:20:08.800 make

01:20:08.940 sure

01:20:09.140 that

01:20:09.420 one

01:20:09.920 person

01:20:10.320 is

01:20:10.580 asking

01:20:10.880 questions

01:20:11.420 and

01:20:11.800 the

01:20:11.940 other

01:20:12.080 person

01:20:12.400 is

01:20:12.560 we're

01:20:12.860 trying

01:20:13.100 we're

01:20:13.560 trying

01:20:13.780 okay

01:20:14.280 maybe

01:20:16.040 I'm

01:20:16.280 too

01:20:16.560 imposing

01:20:17.080 not

01:20:18.300 at

01:20:18.440 all

01:20:18.660 right

01:20:19.300 okay

01:20:20.160 James

01:20:21.120 question

01:20:22.340 number

01:20:22.600 one

01:20:22.920 we

01:20:25.620 read

01:20:26.320 the

01:20:26.500 Old

01:20:26.680 Testament

01:20:27.020 and

01:20:27.620 we

01:20:27.960 find

01:20:28.360 passages

01:20:29.420 all

01:20:29.820 over

01:20:29.980 the

01:20:30.120 place

01:20:30.460 that

01:20:31.020 Israelites

01:20:33.120 simply

01:20:33.680 repent

01:20:34.200 and

01:20:35.400 God

01:20:35.640 forgives

01:20:36.000 them

01:20:36.240 we

01:20:38.060 have

01:20:38.520 similar

01:20:39.200 passages

01:20:39.580 in the

01:20:39.860 New

01:20:40.000 Testament

01:20:40.300 where

01:20:41.040 we

01:20:41.200 are

01:20:41.360 asked

01:20:41.660 to

01:20:41.920 repent

01:20:42.300 and

01:20:43.080 we

01:20:43.220 will

01:20:43.340 be

01:20:43.480 forgiven

01:20:43.760 so

01:20:45.820 why

01:20:47.340 does

01:20:49.860 God

01:20:50.240 have

01:20:50.580 to

01:20:50.760 kill

01:20:51.000 his

01:20:51.240 son

01:20:51.520 to

01:20:52.400 forgive

01:20:52.640 us

01:20:52.940 why

01:20:53.440 can't

01:20:53.760 he

01:20:53.900 simply

01:20:54.220 like

01:20:54.960 in

01:20:55.120 Islam

01:20:55.420 we

01:20:55.640 believe

01:20:55.940 that

01:20:56.340 you

01:20:56.440 simply

01:20:56.700 turn

01:20:56.940 to

01:20:57.100 God

01:20:57.400 and

01:20:58.100 ask

01:20:58.440 for

01:20:58.580 repentance

01:20:58.960 and

01:20:59.720 you

01:20:59.860 will

01:21:00.000 have

01:21:00.240 your

01:21:00.380 forgiveness

01:21:00.720 why

01:21:02.560 can't

01:21:02.940 simply

01:21:03.260 God

01:21:04.100 simply

01:21:04.420 forgive

01:21:04.680 us

01:21:05.000 well

01:21:05.620 if

01:21:05.960 you

01:21:06.080 read

01:21:06.360 all

01:21:06.780 of

01:21:07.240 the

01:21:07.360 Old

01:21:07.520 Testament

01:21:07.900 and

01:21:08.320 allow

01:21:08.580 all

01:21:08.940 of

01:21:09.060 it

01:21:09.160 to

01:21:09.340 speak

01:21:09.620 there's

01:21:09.960 this

01:21:10.220 huge

01:21:11.780 swath

01:21:12.560 called

01:21:13.000 the

01:21:13.340 Mosaic

01:21:13.700 law

01:21:14.140 and

01:21:15.420 that

01:21:15.800 law

01:21:16.120 has a

01:21:16.600 function

01:21:17.100 that

01:21:17.420 function

01:21:17.900 is to

01:21:18.520 show

01:21:18.800 us

01:21:19.020 our

01:21:19.300 sin

01:21:19.800 and

01:21:20.720 to

01:21:20.920 bring

01:21:21.120 conviction

01:21:21.600 of

01:21:22.020 that

01:21:22.260 sin

01:21:22.660 and

01:21:23.500 you

01:21:23.640 have

01:21:23.960 this

01:21:24.300 incredible

01:21:24.820 thing

01:21:25.200 called

01:21:25.720 Yom Kippurim

01:21:26.540 the day

01:21:26.880 of

01:21:27.000 atonement

01:21:27.440 you

01:21:27.840 have

01:21:28.120 high

01:21:28.400 priests

01:21:28.860 you

01:21:29.120 have

01:21:29.340 sacrifices

01:21:30.040 and

01:21:31.980 this

01:21:32.960 theme

01:21:34.840 is found

01:21:35.520 in all

01:21:36.040 of the

01:21:36.260 prophets

01:21:36.640 and

01:21:37.260 in

01:21:37.580 all

01:21:37.920 the

01:21:38.100 historical

01:21:38.600 works

01:21:39.280 and

01:21:39.880 so

01:21:40.180 when

01:21:40.660 I

01:21:40.900 see

01:21:41.620 God

01:21:42.100 calling

01:21:42.540 Israel

01:21:43.000 to

01:21:43.380 repent

01:21:43.900 and

01:21:45.000 he

01:21:45.180 will

01:21:45.400 forgive

01:21:45.780 I

01:21:46.340 don't

01:21:46.640 interpret

01:21:47.080 that

01:21:47.400 outside

01:21:47.860 the

01:21:48.360 light

01:21:48.640 of

01:21:48.840 the

01:21:48.980 fact

01:21:49.300 that

01:21:49.860 God

01:21:50.140 has

01:21:50.360 established

01:21:51.060 this

01:21:51.940 law

01:21:52.500 and

01:21:53.240 when

01:21:53.400 I

01:21:53.760 look

01:21:53.980 at

01:21:54.100 that

01:21:54.300 law

01:21:54.600 it

01:21:55.740 demands

01:21:58.300 the

01:21:59.240 shedding

01:21:59.640 of

01:21:59.900 blood

01:22:00.380 for

01:22:01.680 the

01:22:01.820 forgiveness

01:22:02.120 of

01:22:02.400 sin

01:22:02.720 and

01:22:04.760 it

01:22:05.400 does

01:22:06.460 provide

01:22:07.020 for

01:22:07.260 other

01:22:07.500 kinds

01:22:07.900 of

01:22:08.040 sacrifices

01:22:08.640 thanksgiving

01:22:09.340 sacrifices

01:22:10.100 oil

01:22:10.440 sacrifices

01:22:11.100 etc

01:22:11.500 etc

01:22:11.820 yes

01:22:12.160 but

01:22:12.720 when

01:22:12.900 it

01:22:13.040 comes

01:22:13.400 to

01:22:13.820 it's

01:22:15.220 sometimes

01:22:15.460 called

01:22:15.800 Yom

01:22:16.040 Kippur

01:22:16.360 but

01:22:16.520 it's

01:22:16.680 really

01:22:16.880 Yom

01:22:17.100 Kippurim

01:22:17.460 it's

01:22:17.700 there

01:22:18.000 multiple

01:22:18.420 atonements

01:22:18.900 were made

01:22:19.260 on that

01:22:19.480 day

01:22:19.620 Leviticus

01:22:19.980 chapter

01:22:20.220 16

01:22:20.620 there

01:22:21.500 is

01:22:21.920 the

01:22:22.080 necessity

01:22:22.540 of

01:22:23.160 the

01:22:23.300 shedding

01:22:23.580 of

01:22:23.820 blood

01:22:24.180 and

01:22:24.980 the

01:22:25.220 highest

01:22:25.780 point

01:22:26.460 in

01:22:27.160 the

01:22:27.340 Jewish

01:22:27.760 religious

01:22:29.200 year

01:22:29.700 is

01:22:29.960 when

01:22:30.160 the

01:22:30.340 high

01:22:30.620 priest

01:22:31.140 enters

01:22:32.160 into

01:22:32.460 the

01:22:32.640 holy

01:22:32.880 place

01:22:33.440 with

01:22:33.820 the

01:22:33.960 sacrifice

01:22:34.400 right

01:22:34.840 James

01:22:35.540 when

01:22:35.760 you

01:22:35.880 claim

01:22:36.100 necessity

01:22:36.720 I'm

01:22:37.660 sorry

01:22:37.840 when

01:22:38.340 you

01:22:38.480 claim

01:22:38.780 necessity

01:22:39.320 what

01:22:40.160 is

01:22:40.300 that

01:22:40.420 necessity

01:22:40.800 for

01:22:41.180 the

01:22:41.520 reason

01:22:41.660 I'm

01:22:41.820 looking

01:22:41.980 back

01:22:42.180 I

01:22:42.540 can

01:22:42.900 hear

01:22:43.060 you

01:22:43.180 better

01:22:43.360 back

01:22:43.580 here

01:22:43.720 than

01:22:43.860 over

01:22:44.560 there

01:22:44.720 necessity

01:22:45.560 of

01:22:46.200 what

01:22:46.460 when

01:22:47.280 you

01:22:47.420 said

01:22:47.640 the

01:22:48.360 necessity

01:22:48.740 of

01:22:49.020 blood

01:22:49.480 sacrifice

01:22:50.120 yes

01:22:50.620 it's

01:22:51.080 laid

01:22:51.340 it's

01:22:51.680 specifically

01:22:52.360 laid

01:22:52.800 out

01:22:53.080 in

01:22:53.360 the

01:22:53.540 law

01:22:53.920 as

01:22:54.680 part

01:22:55.000 of

01:22:55.180 the

01:22:55.340 covenant

01:22:55.660 documents

01:22:56.400 the

01:22:56.620 relationship

01:22:57.140 that God

01:22:57.540 has

01:22:57.840 with

01:22:57.980 his

01:22:58.120 people

01:22:58.440 so

01:22:58.740 what

01:22:59.100 happened

01:22:59.420 to

01:22:59.600 all

01:22:59.780 those

01:22:59.980 Israelites

01:23:00.340 who

01:23:00.720 couldn't

01:23:01.280 do

01:23:01.400 that

01:23:01.720 the

01:23:01.980 temple

01:23:03.080 was

01:23:03.300 destroyed

01:23:03.700 and

01:23:03.880 they

01:23:04.000 were

01:23:04.100 in

01:23:04.260 exile

01:23:04.640 and

01:23:05.000 what

01:23:05.180 happened

01:23:05.480 then

01:23:05.720 which

01:23:06.700 time

01:23:07.580 of

01:23:07.680 the

01:23:07.760 destruction

01:23:08.140 the

01:23:09.020 first

01:23:09.220 time

01:23:09.460 and

01:23:09.980 the

01:23:10.120 second

01:23:10.380 okay

01:23:10.640 well

01:23:10.940 in

01:23:11.200 in

01:23:11.500 the

01:23:11.860 first

01:23:12.180 time

01:23:13.260 of

01:23:13.380 the

01:23:13.440 destruction

01:23:13.800 you

01:23:14.540 have

01:23:14.960 God

01:23:15.260 rebuilt

01:23:15.660 having

01:23:15.960 the

01:23:16.160 temple

01:23:16.380 rebuilt

01:23:16.720 so

01:23:16.900 you

01:23:16.960 have

01:23:17.100 Nehemiah

01:23:17.740 not

01:23:18.180 immediately

01:23:18.880 as we

01:23:19.580 know

01:23:19.820 right

01:23:21.980 there's

01:23:22.540 a period

01:23:23.300 of

01:23:23.920 exile

01:23:24.180 but

01:23:24.420 when

01:23:24.660 he

01:23:24.800 brings

01:23:25.120 the

01:23:25.300 people

01:23:25.560 back

01:23:25.800 in

01:23:25.920 that

01:23:26.020 period

01:23:26.460 of

01:23:27.380 exile

01:23:27.780 what

01:23:28.600 are

01:23:29.240 the

01:23:29.360 Israelites

01:23:29.700 doing

01:23:30.060 for

01:23:30.500 their

01:23:30.960 salvation

01:23:31.360 for

01:23:31.560 their

01:23:31.680 forgiveness

01:23:32.020 well

01:23:32.360 you're

01:23:33.240 misunderstanding

01:23:33.620 what I'm

01:23:33.860 saying

01:23:34.060 I

01:23:34.920 don't

01:23:35.600 believe

01:23:36.000 that

01:23:36.800 it

01:23:37.060 was

01:23:37.260 the

01:23:37.460 doing

01:23:37.960 of

01:23:38.260 those

01:23:38.520 actions

01:23:39.020 of

01:23:39.240 the

01:23:39.380 law

01:23:39.680 that

01:23:40.020 brought

01:23:40.440 salvation

01:23:41.120 it's

01:23:42.020 when

01:23:42.220 you

01:23:42.380 look

01:23:42.720 at

01:23:42.840 what

01:23:42.980 those

01:23:43.220 actions

01:23:43.640 were

01:23:43.960 they

01:23:44.180 were

01:23:44.340 pointing

01:23:44.880 to

01:23:45.320 something

01:23:45.860 more

01:23:46.480 right

01:23:47.140 they

01:23:47.480 were

01:23:47.720 prophetic

01:23:48.300 and

01:23:49.540 in

01:23:49.820 fact

01:23:50.300 I'm

01:23:51.140 not

01:23:51.380 sure

01:23:51.660 that

01:23:52.060 I'm

01:23:52.820 not

01:23:52.960 sure

01:23:53.180 that

01:23:53.560 a

01:23:53.760 Muslim

01:23:54.300 is

01:23:54.680 consistent

01:23:55.260 in

01:23:55.500 arguing

01:23:55.800 against

01:23:56.140 this

01:23:56.340 and

01:23:56.460 here's

01:23:56.660 why

01:23:56.900 you

01:23:58.100 believe

01:23:58.860 in

01:24:00.140 prophetic

01:24:00.840 utterances

01:24:02.160 yes

01:24:03.440 we

01:24:03.600 do

01:24:03.780 the

01:24:04.040 Quran

01:24:04.380 itself

01:24:04.980 I'm

01:24:05.160 not

01:24:05.260 asking

01:24:05.680 I'm

01:24:05.900 sorry

01:24:06.060 I'm

01:24:06.180 just

01:24:06.300 making

01:24:06.480 a

01:24:06.620 statement

01:24:06.780 there

01:24:06.960 but

01:24:07.180 for

01:24:08.180 example

01:24:08.540 the

01:24:08.740 Quran

01:24:09.040 says

01:24:09.720 that

01:24:10.360 the

01:24:10.520 people

01:24:10.800 of

01:24:10.960 the

01:24:11.060 book

01:24:11.440 find

01:24:12.220 prophecies

01:24:13.100 of

01:24:13.340 Muhammad

01:24:13.760 in

01:24:14.160 their

01:24:14.340 scriptures

01:24:14.660 yes

01:24:15.460 so

01:24:16.000 we

01:24:17.640 see

01:24:18.080 and

01:24:18.400 the

01:24:18.520 New

01:24:18.640 Testament

01:24:18.940 plainly

01:24:19.500 teaches

01:24:19.920 for

01:24:20.140 example

01:24:20.440 in

01:24:20.560 the

01:24:20.600 book

01:24:20.720 of

01:24:20.860 Hebrews

01:24:21.180 the

01:24:22.300 fulfillment

01:24:24.460 of

01:24:25.580 what

01:24:25.740 is

01:24:25.900 found

01:24:26.240 in

01:24:26.400 the

01:24:26.520 types

01:24:26.900 and

01:24:27.160 shadows

01:24:27.660 in

01:24:28.120 the

01:24:28.280 sacrifices

01:24:28.960 that

01:24:30.000 point

01:24:30.400 to

01:24:30.660 a

01:24:30.920 greater

01:24:31.280 sacrifice

01:24:32.020 that

01:24:32.280 is

01:24:32.440 the

01:24:32.600 sacrifice

01:24:33.000 of

01:24:33.200 Jesus

01:24:33.400 Christ

01:24:33.740 so

01:24:34.080 when

01:24:35.100 I

01:24:35.300 read

01:24:35.580 the

01:24:35.800 Psalter

01:24:36.280 and

01:24:36.540 I

01:24:36.700 read

01:24:37.020 David

01:24:37.540 pouring

01:24:37.980 out

01:24:38.200 his

01:24:38.360 heart

01:24:38.800 in

01:24:39.480 repentance

01:24:39.900 toward

01:24:40.380 God

01:24:40.880 and

01:24:41.160 God

01:24:41.460 grants

01:24:41.880 forgiveness

01:24:42.380 I

01:24:43.320 recognize

01:24:43.900 that

01:24:44.280 there

01:24:44.420 must

01:24:44.840 be

01:24:45.100 a

01:24:45.340 grounds

01:24:45.940 upon

01:24:46.420 which

01:24:46.720 God

01:24:47.060 can

01:24:47.320 give

01:24:47.620 that

01:24:47.900 forgiveness

01:24:48.360 and

01:24:48.660 that's

01:24:48.860 where

01:24:48.980 you

01:24:49.120 and I

01:24:49.460 have

01:24:50.220 a

01:24:50.540 fundamental

01:24:51.120 disagreement

01:24:51.800 but

01:24:52.380 would

01:24:53.040 would

01:24:53.060 would

01:24:53.100 you

01:24:53.520 agree

01:24:53.740 I

01:24:53.880 am

01:24:54.160 sorry

01:24:54.380 go

01:24:55.280 ahead

01:24:55.400 if

01:24:56.520 that

01:24:56.920 is

01:24:57.080 the

01:24:57.200 case

01:24:57.420 James

01:24:57.820 if

01:24:58.040 these

01:24:58.480 are

01:24:58.640 prophetic

01:24:59.160 passages

01:25:01.680 or

01:25:02.020 prophetic

01:25:02.560 ideas

01:25:05.700 in

01:25:06.480 in

01:25:06.500 in

01:25:06.520 the

01:25:06.620 Old

01:25:06.780 Testament

01:25:07.120 where

01:25:07.540 blood

01:25:07.920 sacrifice

01:25:08.400 has

01:25:09.140 something

01:25:10.180 to

01:25:10.380 say

01:25:10.540 for

01:25:10.660 the

01:25:10.760 future

01:25:11.060 why

01:25:11.920 didn't

01:25:12.280 Jesus

01:25:12.580 simply

01:25:14.020 explain

01:25:16.560 that

01:25:16.880 to

01:25:17.320 his

01:25:17.480 disciples

01:25:17.860 why

01:25:18.380 didn't

01:25:18.560 he

01:25:18.680 say

01:25:18.860 look

01:25:19.560 at

01:25:19.660 these

01:25:19.820 examples

01:25:20.300 all

01:25:20.680 these

01:25:20.880 examples

01:25:21.260 in

01:25:21.440 the

01:25:21.540 past

01:25:21.860 I

01:25:22.560 am

01:25:22.720 the

01:25:22.880 fulfillment

01:25:23.360 I

01:25:23.800 will

01:25:24.000 die

01:25:24.340 for

01:25:24.540 your

01:25:24.720 sins

01:25:25.020 on

01:25:25.360 the

01:25:25.540 cross

01:25:25.900 like

01:25:26.120 he

01:25:26.240 did

01:25:26.380 in

01:25:26.480 Luke

01:25:26.720 24

01:25:27.080 44

01:25:27.380 sorry

01:25:27.900 Luke

01:25:28.600 24

01:25:28.980 44

01:25:29.420 through

01:25:29.620 45

01:25:30.120 right

01:25:30.660 what

01:25:30.840 does

01:25:30.940 this

01:25:31.080 say

01:25:31.280 after

01:25:31.640 the

01:25:31.780 resurrection

01:25:32.200 he

01:25:32.480 meets

01:25:32.720 with

01:25:32.840 his

01:25:32.960 disciples

01:25:33.340 and

01:25:33.560 he

01:25:33.660 says

01:25:33.880 everything

01:25:34.360 that

01:25:35.100 is

01:25:35.220 written

01:25:35.400 about

01:25:35.660 me

01:25:35.820 in

01:25:35.920 the

01:25:36.060 law

01:25:36.300 of

01:25:36.440 Moses

01:25:36.760 the

01:25:37.040 Psalms

01:25:37.460 and

01:25:37.580 the

01:25:37.700 prophets

01:25:38.060 must

01:25:38.400 be

01:25:38.640 fulfilled

01:25:39.040 atonement

01:25:40.040 is the

01:25:40.540 issue

01:25:41.020 here

01:25:41.320 atonement

01:25:41.900 where

01:25:42.140 does

01:25:42.760 he

01:25:42.880 tell

01:25:43.060 them

01:25:43.220 that

01:25:43.380 I

01:25:43.660 am

01:25:43.860 that

01:25:44.080 atonement

01:25:44.600 I

01:25:44.800 am

01:25:44.980 that

01:25:45.120 redemption

01:25:45.540 the

01:25:46.400 only

01:25:46.640 way

01:25:46.940 that

01:25:47.120 we

01:25:47.300 can

01:25:47.520 know

01:25:47.800 because

01:25:48.080 we

01:25:48.260 have

01:25:48.420 two

01:25:48.980 verses

01:25:49.460 that

01:25:50.480 tell

01:25:50.760 us

01:25:51.020 that

01:25:51.240 Jesus

01:25:51.640 did

01:25:52.940 all

01:25:53.460 this

01:25:53.720 talking

01:25:54.080 to

01:25:54.220 disciples

01:25:54.600 we

01:25:54.840 are

01:25:54.860 not

01:25:55.000 told

01:25:55.180 what

01:25:55.340 he

01:25:55.440 said

01:25:55.740 you

01:25:56.080 know

01:25:56.160 how

01:25:56.280 we

01:25:56.460 can

01:25:56.640 find

01:25:56.900 out

01:25:57.060 what

01:25:57.180 he

01:25:57.280 said

01:25:57.520 the

01:25:58.480 sermons

01:25:58.960 and

01:25:59.340 the

01:25:59.460 writings

01:25:59.780 of

01:26:00.060 the

01:26:00.180 people

01:26:00.440 that

01:26:00.600 followed

01:26:00.960 and

01:26:01.460 spread

01:26:02.020 his

01:26:02.200 message

01:26:02.620 and

01:26:03.420 so

01:26:03.700 when

01:26:04.060 we

01:26:04.320 look

01:26:04.760 at

01:26:05.080 how

01:26:05.380 the

01:26:05.580 Old

01:26:05.780 Testament

01:26:06.080 is

01:26:06.320 used

01:26:06.740 in

01:26:07.100 the

01:26:07.620 preaching

01:26:07.960 in

01:26:08.160 Acts

01:26:08.480 Acts

01:26:08.780 2

01:26:08.980 24

01:26:09.580 Acts

01:26:11.280 4

01:26:11.680 quotes

01:26:12.040 directly

01:26:12.360 from

01:26:12.500 the

01:26:12.600 Old

01:26:12.740 Testament

01:26:13.100 what

01:26:13.660 is

01:26:13.760 about

01:26:14.100 the

01:26:14.320 suffering

01:26:14.620 of

01:26:14.760 the

01:26:14.860 Messiah

01:26:15.240 you

01:26:15.800 see

01:26:15.980 Isaiah

01:26:16.260 53

01:26:16.720 being

01:26:17.120 brought

01:26:17.360 in

01:26:17.600 where

01:26:18.160 did

01:26:18.260 they

01:26:18.320 get

01:26:18.480 these

01:26:18.680 ideas

01:26:19.080 I

01:26:19.320 would

01:26:19.460 say

01:26:19.620 they

01:26:19.720 got

01:26:19.860 them

01:26:19.960 from

01:26:20.120 Jesus

01:26:20.460 Isaiah

01:26:21.080 53

01:26:21.500 is

01:26:22.440 a

01:26:22.620 very

01:26:22.840 interesting

01:26:23.300 passage

01:26:23.760 I

01:26:24.020 know

01:26:24.320 Christians

01:26:25.720 believe

01:26:26.080 that

01:26:26.340 it

01:26:26.560 is

01:26:26.820 a

01:26:27.180 prophecy

01:26:27.500 for

01:26:28.580 the

01:26:29.960 sacrifice

01:26:30.580 of

01:26:30.860 Jesus

01:26:31.060 Christ

01:26:31.520 you

01:26:32.900 know

01:26:33.060 Jewish

01:26:33.380 rabbis

01:26:33.880 have

01:26:34.180 disagreed

01:26:34.640 with

01:26:34.780 you

01:26:34.880 for

01:26:35.000 centuries

01:26:35.360 right

01:26:35.780 yes

01:26:36.320 well

01:26:36.560 aware

01:26:36.780 of

01:26:36.880 but

01:26:37.540 there

01:26:37.760 is

01:26:37.920 something

01:26:38.440 I

01:26:38.800 have

01:26:39.380 come

01:26:39.580 across

01:26:39.940 in

01:26:40.140 Isaiah

01:26:40.420 53

01:26:40.800 which

01:26:41.040 is

01:26:41.140 very

01:26:41.300 interesting

01:26:41.700 you

01:26:41.980 when

01:26:42.620 you

01:26:42.760 were

01:26:42.880 reading

01:26:43.100 the

01:26:43.260 passage

01:26:43.560 you

01:26:44.200 actually

01:26:44.800 talked

01:26:45.980 about

01:26:46.420 or

01:26:46.840 you

01:26:47.000 mentioned

01:26:48.080 the word

01:26:48.760 progeny

01:26:49.420 right

01:26:49.860 I

01:26:50.080 didn't

01:26:50.200 read

01:26:50.340 the

01:26:50.460 entire

01:26:50.700 chapter

01:26:51.080 no

01:26:51.540 you

01:26:51.740 read

01:26:52.160 the

01:26:52.300 part

01:26:52.520 I'm

01:26:52.940 concerned

01:26:53.180 where

01:26:54.940 it

01:26:55.540 simply

01:26:55.780 states

01:26:56.140 that

01:26:56.380 he

01:26:56.800 will

01:26:57.080 see

01:26:57.380 his

01:26:57.660 offspring

01:26:58.160 yes

01:26:58.680 and

01:26:58.940 then

01:26:59.060 you

01:26:59.180 said

01:26:59.340 this

01:26:59.600 is

01:26:59.740 the

01:26:59.880 offspring

01:27:00.280 you

01:27:00.880 had

01:27:01.060 to

01:27:01.220 stop

01:27:01.580 there

01:27:01.900 and

01:27:02.300 you

01:27:02.440 had

01:27:02.620 to

01:27:02.760 explain

01:27:03.340 what

01:27:03.640 offspring

01:27:04.100 actually

01:27:04.460 means

01:27:04.840 why

01:27:05.800 is

01:27:05.980 that

01:27:06.200 because

01:27:06.480 when

01:27:06.680 we

01:27:06.840 go

01:27:06.960 to

01:27:07.100 Hebrew

01:27:07.360 there

01:27:07.900 is

01:27:08.060 this

01:27:08.280 word

01:27:08.580 Zira

01:27:13.100 Hebrew

01:27:13.740 lexicons

01:27:15.180 we

01:27:15.360 are

01:27:15.500 told

01:27:15.720 that

01:27:15.880 this

01:27:16.040 actually

01:27:16.320 means

01:27:16.580 semen

01:27:16.900 literally

01:27:18.340 the

01:27:19.480 substance

01:27:19.880 that

01:27:20.220 produces

01:27:20.640 offspring

01:27:21.200 and

01:27:22.040 it

01:27:22.400 is

01:27:22.520 very

01:27:22.680 similar

01:27:22.960 to

01:27:23.220 the

01:27:23.460 Arabic

01:27:23.700 term

01:27:24.100 Zoria

01:27:24.620 I'm

01:27:25.980 aware

01:27:26.180 of

01:27:26.280 the

01:27:26.380 Arabic

01:27:26.580 language

01:27:27.000 so

01:27:27.300 Hebrew

01:27:28.380 and

01:27:29.220 Arabic

01:27:29.580 languages

01:27:30.180 are

01:27:30.620 sister

01:27:31.020 languages

01:27:31.480 very

01:27:32.060 similar

01:27:32.320 to

01:27:32.440 each

01:27:32.540 other

01:27:32.660 so

01:27:33.160 here

01:27:33.480 the

01:27:33.880 Jewish

01:27:34.140 rabbis

01:27:34.600 this

01:27:34.800 is

01:27:34.900 why

01:27:35.040 the

01:27:35.200 Jews

01:27:35.460 find

01:27:35.800 it

01:27:35.920 very

01:27:36.060 difficult

01:27:36.360 to

01:27:36.540 believe

01:27:36.740 that

01:27:36.920 this

01:27:37.100 is

01:27:37.220 about

01:27:37.440 Jesus

01:27:37.720 because

01:27:38.120 it

01:27:38.660 simply

01:27:38.920 states

01:27:39.200 that

01:27:39.320 he

01:27:43.100 Jews

01:27:43.380 for

01:27:43.800 holding

01:27:44.580 this

01:27:44.800 view

01:27:44.940 because

01:27:45.180 they

01:27:45.320 have

01:27:45.500 their

01:27:45.680 linguistic

01:27:46.040 tradition

01:27:46.500 and

01:27:47.880 they

01:27:48.160 interpret

01:27:48.800 this

01:27:49.080 passage

01:27:49.480 or

01:27:49.840 this

01:27:50.000 particular

01:27:50.400 verse

01:27:51.100 in the

01:27:51.700 light

01:27:51.880 of

01:27:52.020 that

01:27:52.240 linguistic

01:27:52.680 tradition

01:27:53.060 and

01:27:53.780 prolong

01:27:54.460 his

01:27:54.720 days

01:27:55.080 is there

01:27:56.420 a question

01:27:56.840 in here

01:27:57.120 somewhere

01:27:57.280 yeah

01:27:57.360 that's

01:27:57.560 a question

01:27:57.920 yeah

01:27:58.180 so

01:27:58.560 how

01:27:59.040 can

01:27:59.860 you

01:28:00.140 ignore

01:28:01.400 that

01:28:01.820 the

01:28:02.320 linguistic

01:28:02.900 side

01:28:03.440 of

01:28:03.800 I

01:28:03.900 didn't

01:28:04.460 ignore

01:28:04.940 it

01:28:05.120 because

01:28:05.380 the

01:28:05.740 seed

01:28:05.960 of

01:28:06.080 Abraham

01:28:06.340 is

01:28:06.640 as

01:28:06.800 the

01:28:06.960 stars

01:28:07.180 of the

01:28:07.440 sea

01:28:07.600 too

01:28:07.860 of

01:28:08.620 the sky

01:28:09.520 so

01:28:09.780 obviously

01:28:10.300 this

01:28:11.500 is

01:28:12.320 not

01:28:13.100 taken

01:28:13.360 in a

01:28:13.720 literal

01:28:13.900 fashion

01:28:14.300 this

01:28:14.520 is

01:28:14.640 a

01:28:14.780 poetic

01:28:15.100 section

01:28:15.540 you'll

01:28:16.060 notice

01:28:16.280 it

01:28:16.440 says

01:28:16.680 right

01:28:17.080 before

01:28:17.480 that

01:28:17.800 if

01:28:18.240 he

01:28:18.360 would

01:28:18.520 render

01:28:18.820 himself

01:28:19.260 as

01:28:19.460 a

01:28:19.600 guilt

01:28:19.800 offering

01:28:20.140 well

01:28:20.300 how

01:28:20.460 can

01:28:20.640 someone

01:28:20.920 be

01:28:21.100 rendered

01:28:21.340 as

01:28:21.540 a

01:28:21.660 guilt

01:28:21.860 offering

01:28:22.260 under

01:28:22.600 the

01:28:22.760 Old

01:28:22.900 Testament

01:28:23.200 law

01:28:23.500 this

01:28:23.700 is

01:28:23.840 obviously

01:28:24.260 poetic

01:28:24.720 and

01:28:25.260 when

01:28:25.400 you

01:28:25.520 look

01:28:25.720 at

01:28:25.860 it

01:28:25.940 you

01:28:26.020 have

01:28:26.180 to

01:28:26.300 ask

01:28:26.580 the

01:28:26.720 questions

01:28:27.040 what

01:28:27.240 does

01:28:27.460 this

01:28:27.620 mean

01:28:27.880 when

01:28:28.260 it

01:28:28.360 says

01:28:28.540 he

01:28:28.660 will

01:28:28.780 see

01:28:28.960 his

01:28:29.140 offspring

01:28:29.460 he

01:28:29.640 will

01:28:29.780 prolong

01:28:30.140 his

01:28:30.420 days

01:28:30.760 that

01:28:30.900 doesn't

01:28:31.100 mean

01:28:31.220 he

01:28:31.260 has

01:28:31.340 a

01:28:31.540 bunch

01:28:31.740 of

01:28:31.880 kids

01:28:32.280 when

01:28:32.980 you

01:28:34.120 look

01:28:35.060 at

01:28:35.200 everything

01:28:35.500 that

01:28:35.720 it

01:28:35.860 says

01:28:36.320 my

01:28:36.860 servant

01:28:37.400 will

01:28:37.720 justify

01:28:38.300 the

01:28:38.580 many

01:28:38.900 as

01:28:39.400 he

01:28:39.640 will

01:28:39.920 bear

01:28:40.180 their

01:28:40.500 iniquities

01:28:41.220 so

01:28:41.420 you

01:28:41.580 choose

01:28:42.080 to

01:28:42.480 interpret

01:28:43.160 certain

01:28:43.600 verses

01:28:43.940 literally

01:28:44.700 and

01:28:45.020 others

01:28:45.460 metaphorically

01:28:46.600 this

01:28:47.400 is a

01:28:47.740 prophecy

01:28:48.260 yes

01:28:48.980 and

01:28:49.480 so

01:28:49.700 prophecy

01:28:50.340 has

01:28:50.980 to

01:28:51.200 be

01:28:51.400 taken

01:28:51.760 in

01:28:51.980 such

01:28:52.220 a

01:28:52.380 fashion

01:28:52.780 as

01:28:53.340 to

01:28:53.480 have

01:28:53.700 a

01:28:53.880 fulfillment

01:28:54.360 right

01:28:55.020 and

01:28:55.140 when

01:28:55.300 you

01:28:55.440 look

01:28:55.680 at

01:28:55.840 all

01:28:56.300 of

01:28:56.440 this

01:28:56.640 and

01:28:56.980 say

01:28:57.220 what

01:28:58.060 one

01:28:58.660 thing

01:28:59.180 can

01:28:59.520 fulfill

01:29:00.120 all

01:29:00.800 of

01:29:01.100 this

01:29:01.540 there's

01:29:02.220 only

01:29:02.360 one

01:29:02.600 thing

01:29:02.800 that

01:29:02.980 can

01:29:03.280 there

01:29:03.480 is

01:29:03.620 no

01:29:03.860 place

01:29:05.060 where

01:29:06.040 the

01:29:06.280 nation

01:29:06.740 of

01:29:06.940 Israel

01:29:07.380 for

01:29:07.620 example

01:29:07.980 the

01:29:08.180 normal

01:29:08.540 rabbinic

01:29:09.600 interpretation

01:29:10.180 of this

01:29:10.440 could

01:29:10.940 ever

01:29:11.260 fulfill

01:29:11.700 all

01:29:12.000 of

01:29:12.120 these

01:29:12.280 things

01:29:12.540 and

01:29:12.720 in

01:29:12.840 fact

01:29:13.000 there's

01:29:13.180 a

01:29:13.280 number

01:29:13.440 of

01:29:13.580 places

01:29:13.880 where

01:29:14.100 the

01:29:14.220 nation

01:29:14.500 itself

01:29:14.920 is

01:29:15.100 in

01:29:15.260 view

01:29:15.420 as

01:29:15.700 the

01:29:15.880 object

01:29:16.320 of

01:29:16.580 the

01:29:16.700 redemption

01:29:17.020 he

01:29:17.440 will

01:29:17.640 bear

01:29:17.900 their

01:29:18.260 iniquities

01:29:18.780 who

01:29:19.020 will

01:29:19.220 bear

01:29:19.380 their

01:29:19.580 iniquities

01:29:20.120 the

01:29:20.600 people

01:29:20.800 of

01:29:20.940 Israel

01:29:28.060 yes

01:29:28.820 they

01:29:28.980 have

01:29:29.220 and

01:29:29.320 we've

01:29:29.560 written

01:29:29.700 books

01:29:29.940 in

01:29:30.060 response

01:29:30.540 and

01:29:30.700 I

01:29:31.020 point

01:29:32.340 people

01:29:32.680 to

01:29:32.880 the

01:29:33.120 debates

01:29:33.460 that

01:29:33.580 have

01:29:33.660 been

01:29:33.760 done

01:29:33.920 on

01:29:34.060 that

01:29:34.160 I

01:29:34.280 think

01:29:34.440 they're

01:29:34.640 actually

01:29:34.960 conclusive

01:29:35.500 but

01:29:36.400 from

01:29:36.960 a

01:29:37.160 Muslim

01:29:37.540 perspective

01:29:38.140 I

01:29:38.520 am

01:29:38.680 confused

01:29:39.440 by

01:29:40.360 your

01:29:40.580 criticism

01:29:41.100 of

01:29:41.440 the

01:29:41.600 text

01:29:42.100 because

01:29:43.060 the

01:29:44.100 Quran

01:29:44.520 identifies

01:29:45.480 Jesus

01:29:46.140 as

01:29:47.100 the

01:29:47.280 Mashiach

01:29:47.880 how

01:29:49.220 were

01:29:49.540 the

01:29:49.740 Jews

01:29:50.080 supposed

01:29:50.400 to

01:29:50.780 know

01:29:51.060 Jesus

01:29:51.540 was

01:29:52.020 the

01:29:52.240 Messiah

01:29:52.680 if

01:29:53.440 these

01:29:54.240 are

01:29:54.440 not

01:29:54.700 the

01:29:54.920 very

01:29:55.320 prophetic

01:29:56.060 texts

01:29:56.600 that

01:29:56.840 would

01:29:57.020 have

01:29:57.220 held

01:29:57.440 them

01:29:57.600 accountable

01:29:57.980 for

01:29:58.260 knowing

01:29:58.540 that

01:29:58.720 one

01:29:58.880 of

01:29:58.980 the

01:29:59.100 reasons

01:29:59.420 why

01:29:59.680 Jewish

01:30:04.040 priests

01:30:06.040 at the

01:30:06.720 time

01:30:07.100 rejected

01:30:08.760 Jesus

01:30:09.120 was

01:30:09.560 that

01:30:09.860 he

01:30:10.000 was

01:30:10.160 killed

01:30:10.420 on

01:30:10.560 the

01:30:10.680 cross

01:30:11.000 allegedly

01:30:12.060 and

01:30:13.100 they

01:30:13.740 had

01:30:14.000 this

01:30:14.220 view

01:30:14.380 that

01:30:14.600 the

01:30:14.780 Messiah

01:30:15.140 cannot

01:30:15.520 be

01:30:15.760 killed

01:30:16.100 Psalms

01:30:17.300 91

01:30:17.900 where

01:30:18.580 it is

01:30:18.900 clearly

01:30:19.100 stated

01:30:19.460 that

01:30:19.760 he

01:30:20.220 will

01:30:20.360 be

01:30:20.520 saved

01:30:20.860 God

01:30:21.220 will

01:30:21.380 protect

01:30:21.740 him

01:30:21.960 and

01:30:22.100 that's

01:30:22.340 one

01:30:22.460 of

01:30:22.540 the

01:30:22.620 problems

01:30:22.900 we

01:30:23.100 can

01:30:23.340 discuss

01:30:23.800 in

01:30:24.400 due

01:30:24.540 course

01:30:24.860 so

01:30:25.500 that's

01:30:26.120 why

01:30:26.240 the

01:30:26.380 Quran

01:30:26.620 confirms

01:30:27.180 that

01:30:27.440 that

01:30:27.640 he

01:30:27.780 was

01:30:27.980 not

01:30:28.160 killed

01:30:28.380 on

01:30:28.520 the

01:30:28.640 cross

01:30:28.900 he

01:30:29.380 was

01:30:29.620 the

01:30:29.780 Messiah

01:30:30.080 promised

01:30:30.460 to

01:30:30.600 the

01:30:30.720 Jews

01:30:30.960 Jesus

01:30:31.640 was

01:30:31.920 not

01:30:32.140 killed

01:30:32.380 on

01:30:32.520 the

01:30:32.640 cross

01:30:32.940 he

01:30:33.400 was

01:30:33.660 saved

01:30:34.320 he

01:30:34.580 was

01:30:34.740 lifted

01:30:35.020 up

01:30:35.240 he

01:30:35.380 was

01:30:35.500 raised

01:30:35.760 high

01:30:36.060 he

01:30:36.480 ascended

01:30:36.820 to

01:30:36.980 the

01:30:37.100 heavens

01:30:37.380 and

01:30:37.840 and

01:30:37.860 and

01:30:37.880 that

01:30:37.940 and

01:30:38.760 okay

01:30:38.780 so

01:30:39.820 now

01:30:40.040 I'm

01:30:40.240 asking

01:30:40.760 questions

01:30:41.860 of you

01:30:42.120 for

01:30:42.280 ten

01:30:42.540 continue

01:30:45.540 with what

01:30:45.800 you just

01:30:46.040 said

01:30:46.240 though

01:30:46.400 it

01:30:46.620 struck

01:30:46.880 me

01:30:47.140 you

01:30:47.880 said

01:30:48.160 one

01:30:48.320 of

01:30:48.400 the

01:30:48.500 reasons

01:30:48.840 that

01:30:49.040 the

01:30:49.180 Jews

01:30:49.480 rejected

01:30:50.080 Jesus

01:30:50.560 was

01:30:51.540 because

01:30:51.800 he

01:30:51.960 died

01:30:52.120 on

01:30:52.240 the

01:30:52.340 cross

01:30:52.660 how

01:30:52.940 do

01:30:53.200 you

01:30:53.760 make

01:30:55.060 that

01:30:55.300 fit

01:30:55.700 with

01:30:55.960 surah

01:30:56.200 4

01:30:56.340 157

01:30:57.000 and

01:30:57.240 its

01:30:57.420 denial

01:30:57.900 of

01:30:59.020 the

01:30:59.220 historical

01:30:59.700 reality

01:31:00.220 of

01:31:00.800 the

01:31:01.000 crucifixion

01:31:01.580 of

01:31:01.720 Jesus

01:31:01.960 I

01:31:02.160 mean

01:31:02.260 we're

01:31:02.460 not

01:31:02.640 debating

01:31:03.060 that

01:31:03.480 but

01:31:03.680 it's

01:31:03.900 obviously

01:31:04.420 central

01:31:05.140 to

01:31:06.200 to

01:31:06.660 this

01:31:06.900 issue

01:31:07.200 you

01:31:07.460 can't

01:31:07.760 even

01:31:07.960 really

01:31:08.280 seriously

01:31:08.860 consider

01:31:09.460 what

01:31:10.400 the

01:31:10.520 New

01:31:10.640 Testament

01:31:10.940 says

01:31:11.260 about

01:31:11.420 the

01:31:11.540 death

01:31:11.720 of

01:31:11.840 Christ

01:31:12.080 because

01:31:12.260 you

01:31:12.360 don't

01:31:12.480 believe

01:31:12.660 it

01:31:12.760 actually

01:31:12.960 took

01:31:13.160 place

01:31:13.620 I

01:31:14.440 accept

01:31:15.780 that

01:31:16.080 the

01:31:16.300 four

01:31:16.500 gospels

01:31:16.940 are

01:31:17.080 unanimous

01:31:17.620 all

01:31:19.080 the

01:31:19.260 historical

01:31:19.720 record

01:31:20.900 we

01:31:21.140 have

01:31:21.440 at

01:31:22.300 our

01:31:22.560 disposal

01:31:22.980 tells

01:31:24.460 us

01:31:24.660 that

01:31:24.840 Jesus

01:31:25.060 was

01:31:25.280 crucified

01:31:25.720 however

01:31:26.940 the

01:31:28.520 Quran

01:31:28.760 tells

01:31:29.180 us

01:31:29.380 that

01:31:29.580 he

01:31:29.720 was

01:31:29.900 not

01:31:30.100 crucified

01:31:30.560 and

01:31:31.720 the

01:31:33.440 Old

01:31:33.740 Testament

01:31:34.140 also

01:31:35.340 agrees

01:31:36.460 with

01:31:36.640 that

01:31:36.880 according

01:31:37.620 to

01:31:37.780 what

01:31:37.900 we

01:31:38.060 understand

01:31:38.580 for

01:31:39.320 example

01:31:39.740 I

01:31:40.160 mean

01:31:40.260 this

01:31:40.460 is

01:31:40.560 something

01:31:40.800 I

01:31:40.980 would

01:31:41.100 like

01:31:41.260 to

01:31:41.420 highlight

01:31:41.740 very

01:31:42.020 quickly

01:31:42.360 when

01:31:43.160 we

01:31:43.320 go

01:31:43.460 to

01:31:43.820 the

01:31:44.140 book

01:31:44.320 of

01:31:44.600 Psalms

01:31:46.640 sorry

01:31:48.120 Psalms

01:31:48.940 91

01:31:49.420 and

01:31:50.620 we

01:31:51.500 see

01:31:51.820 the

01:31:52.360 book

01:31:52.500 of

01:31:52.660 Matthew

01:31:53.000 actually

01:31:53.480 refer

01:31:53.760 to

01:31:53.900 this

01:31:54.080 passage

01:31:54.460 where

01:31:55.220 when

01:31:55.980 we

01:31:56.120 read

01:31:56.360 the

01:31:56.500 entire

01:31:56.920 book

01:31:59.000 sorry

01:31:59.640 let me

01:31:59.940 find

01:32:00.160 the

01:32:00.320 passages

01:32:00.620 I'm

01:32:00.840 talking

01:32:01.100 about

01:32:01.480 they

01:32:02.200 seem

01:32:02.480 to

01:32:02.640 have

01:32:02.800 lost

01:32:03.260 91

01:32:04.880 11

01:32:05.260 for

01:32:06.040 he

01:32:06.160 will

01:32:06.320 give

01:32:06.520 his

01:32:06.680 angels

01:32:06.920 charge

01:32:07.240 concerning

01:32:07.620 you

01:32:07.760 to

01:32:07.860 guard

01:32:08.080 you

01:32:08.200 in

01:32:08.280 all

01:32:08.380 ways

01:32:08.640 he

01:32:08.800 will

01:32:08.900 bury

01:32:09.480 you

01:32:09.560 up

01:32:09.660 in

01:32:09.740 your

01:32:09.840 hands

01:32:10.180 that

01:32:10.560 you

01:32:10.680 not

01:32:10.860 strike

01:32:11.160 your foot

01:32:11.380 against

01:32:11.600 stone

01:32:11.860 right

01:32:12.840 one second

01:32:13.300 yeah

01:32:13.540 basically

01:32:14.520 in

01:32:16.180 the

01:32:16.580 book

01:32:16.780 of

01:32:16.920 Luke

01:32:17.180 chapter

01:32:17.740 4

01:32:18.060 verse

01:32:18.320 10

01:32:18.620 and

01:32:19.240 Matthew

01:32:19.540 4

01:32:20.060 chapter

01:32:20.760 4

01:32:21.160 verse

01:32:22.000 5

01:32:22.380 6

01:32:22.700 there

01:32:24.220 is

01:32:24.340 a

01:32:24.460 dialogue

01:32:24.760 between

01:32:25.220 the

01:32:25.900 devil

01:32:26.140 and

01:32:26.480 Jesus

01:32:26.700 Christ

01:32:27.100 right

01:32:27.560 and

01:32:28.700 the

01:32:29.520 devil

01:32:29.720 tells

01:32:30.020 Jesus

01:32:30.260 Christ

01:32:30.580 that

01:32:30.720 you

01:32:30.820 will

01:32:30.960 be

01:32:31.120 saved

01:32:31.440 right

01:32:32.700 and

01:32:33.800 well

01:32:34.260 there

01:32:34.680 are

01:32:34.820 striking

01:32:35.220 similarities

01:32:35.900 between

01:32:36.620 what

01:32:37.060 the

01:32:37.560 wording

01:32:37.900 devil

01:32:38.240 uses

01:32:38.600 and

01:32:39.980 what

01:32:40.160 we

01:32:40.300 find

01:32:40.580 in

01:32:40.780 Psalms

01:32:41.140 91

01:32:41.600 and

01:32:42.300 Psalms

01:32:42.860 91

01:32:43.340 is

01:32:43.620 entirely

01:32:44.100 about

01:32:44.540 someone

01:32:44.980 being

01:32:45.320 saved

01:32:45.900 verse

01:32:47.100 3

01:32:47.360 for

01:32:47.520 example

01:32:47.960 surely

01:32:49.040 he

01:32:49.260 will

01:32:49.420 save

01:32:49.720 you

01:32:49.960 verse

01:32:50.760 4

01:32:51.080 he

01:32:51.360 will

01:32:51.540 cover

01:32:51.900 you

01:32:52.220 verse

01:32:52.940 5

01:32:53.320 you

01:32:53.540 will

01:32:53.720 not

01:32:53.940 fear

01:32:54.300 verse

01:32:55.500 8

01:32:55.820 you

01:32:56.240 will

01:32:56.440 only

01:32:56.780 observe

01:32:57.220 with

01:32:57.400 your

01:32:57.540 eyes

01:32:58.060 and

01:32:58.360 see

01:32:58.640 the

01:32:58.860 punishment

01:32:59.220 of

01:32:59.520 the

01:32:59.660 wicked

01:32:59.960 verse

01:33:00.700 10

01:33:01.020 that

01:33:01.300 no

01:33:01.560 harm

01:33:01.840 will

01:33:02.020 befall

01:33:02.360 you

01:33:02.660 verse

01:33:03.500 11

01:33:03.880 for

01:33:04.340 he

01:33:04.480 will

01:33:04.640 command

01:33:05.040 his

01:33:05.280 angels

01:33:05.720 concerning

01:33:06.280 you

01:33:06.480 to

01:33:06.620 guard

01:33:07.000 you

01:33:07.260 in

01:33:07.780 all

01:33:08.060 your

01:33:08.220 ways

01:33:08.580 they

01:33:08.980 will

01:33:09.180 lift

01:33:09.520 lift

01:33:10.060 you

01:33:10.240 up

01:33:10.420 in

01:33:10.760 their

01:33:10.940 hands

01:33:11.400 and

01:33:12.060 this

01:33:12.220 is

01:33:12.360 very

01:33:12.560 much

01:33:12.780 in

01:33:12.900 agreement

01:33:13.200 with

01:33:13.360 the

01:33:13.460 Quran

01:33:13.780 the

01:33:14.060 Quran

01:33:14.260 says

01:33:14.540 that

01:33:14.740 he

01:33:14.960 was

01:33:15.280 saved

01:33:15.800 from

01:33:16.360 crucifixion

01:33:17.100 and

01:33:18.300 he

01:33:18.420 was

01:33:18.580 lifted

01:33:18.840 up

01:33:19.200 he

01:33:19.640 was

01:33:19.880 simply

01:33:20.420 lifted

01:33:20.720 up

01:33:20.980 he

01:33:21.320 was

01:33:21.500 raised

01:33:21.800 above

01:33:22.300 so

01:33:22.860 that

01:33:23.060 you

01:33:23.200 will

01:33:23.380 not

01:33:23.600 strike

01:33:23.940 your

01:33:24.140 foot

01:33:24.380 against

01:33:24.800 a

01:33:24.980 stone

01:33:25.240 this

01:33:25.540 is

01:33:25.640 the

01:33:25.780 point

01:33:26.100 this

01:33:26.800 is

01:33:26.940 where

01:33:27.240 it

01:33:27.820 agrees

01:33:28.660 word

01:33:28.960 by

01:33:29.140 word

01:33:29.480 with

01:33:30.440 Matthew

01:33:30.880 4

01:33:31.420 chapter

01:33:32.020 4

01:33:32.300 verse

01:33:32.520 5

01:33:32.740 6

01:33:32.960 so

01:33:33.500 Jesus

01:33:33.980 doesn't

01:33:34.320 actually

01:33:34.700 deny

01:33:35.320 the

01:33:35.560 passage

01:33:35.860 he

01:33:36.000 doesn't

01:33:36.140 say

01:33:36.280 it's

01:33:36.420 not

01:33:36.600 me

01:33:36.920 that

01:33:37.660 passage

01:33:37.920 is

01:33:38.040 talking

01:33:38.240 about

01:33:38.520 rather

01:33:39.620 Jesus

01:33:39.960 says

01:33:40.200 it

01:33:40.660 also

01:33:41.180 states

01:33:41.800 in

01:33:42.140 the

01:33:42.320 scripture

01:33:42.660 he

01:33:43.020 confirms

01:33:43.480 what

01:33:43.640 the

01:33:43.760 devil

01:33:43.940 says

01:33:44.360 and

01:33:44.960 it

01:33:45.080 also

01:33:45.520 states

01:33:45.980 in

01:33:46.100 the

01:33:46.220 scripture

01:33:46.440 do

01:33:46.640 not

01:33:46.820 tempt

01:33:47.100 God

01:33:47.460 right

01:33:48.240 so

01:33:48.900 book

01:33:53.600 that

01:33:53.860 Psalms

01:33:54.680 91

01:33:55.100 refers

01:33:55.480 to

01:33:55.660 Jesus

01:33:55.860 Christ

01:33:56.300 when

01:33:57.040 we

01:33:57.160 read

01:33:57.340 Psalms

01:33:57.660 91

01:33:58.120 we

01:33:58.960 see

01:33:59.260 he

01:34:00.120 is

01:34:00.280 being

01:34:00.460 saved

01:34:00.840 he's

01:34:01.680 not

01:34:01.820 killed

01:34:02.140 how

01:34:03.160 do

01:34:03.320 you

01:34:03.520 respond

01:34:04.120 to

01:34:04.300 that

01:34:04.520 what

01:34:04.840 do

01:34:04.940 we

01:34:05.040 do

01:34:05.140 with

01:34:05.280 that

01:34:05.480 yeah

01:34:05.740 well

01:34:06.540 it's

01:34:07.000 actually

01:34:07.780 my turn

01:34:10.100 to ask

01:34:10.360 you

01:34:10.460 questions

01:34:10.840 but

01:34:11.120 wouldn't

01:34:12.160 you

01:34:12.300 understand

01:34:12.980 that

01:34:13.720 the

01:34:14.720 fact

01:34:15.060 that

01:34:15.400 Jesus

01:34:15.900 is

01:34:16.960 resurrected

01:34:17.540 from

01:34:17.940 the

01:34:18.160 dead

01:34:18.520 as

01:34:18.860 the

01:34:19.040 ultimate

01:34:19.440 form

01:34:19.880 of

01:34:20.040 salvation

01:34:20.560 is

01:34:22.160 how

01:34:22.340 I

01:34:22.500 answer

01:34:22.720 that

01:34:22.920 question

01:34:23.240 by

01:34:23.420 asking

01:34:23.660 you

01:34:23.820 a

01:34:23.940 question

01:34:24.200 that's

01:34:24.500 not

01:34:24.640 quite

01:34:24.920 answering

01:34:25.320 that's

01:34:26.160 not

01:34:26.300 quite

01:34:26.560 answering

01:34:26.900 wouldn't

01:34:27.200 you

01:34:27.360 recognize

01:34:27.940 however

01:34:28.400 that

01:34:28.740 any

01:34:28.980 type

01:34:29.360 of

01:34:29.820 shadow

01:34:31.360 cannot

01:34:32.540 be as

01:34:33.020 clear

01:34:33.260 as

01:34:33.500 its

01:34:33.680 fulfillment

01:34:34.140 so

01:34:35.160 in

01:34:35.280 other

01:34:35.420 words

01:34:35.680 prophecy

01:34:36.860 in

01:34:37.560 the

01:34:37.740 old

01:34:38.020 covenant

01:34:38.380 has

01:34:39.020 to

01:34:39.240 be

01:34:39.460 by

01:34:39.700 nature

01:34:40.340 less

01:34:41.700 than

01:34:42.180 its

01:34:42.460 fulfillment

01:34:43.420 so

01:34:44.840 if

01:34:46.180 you're

01:34:46.340 saying

01:34:46.800 that

01:34:47.140 the

01:34:47.480 Old

01:34:48.020 Testament

01:34:48.420 prophecies

01:34:49.600 have

01:34:49.980 to

01:34:50.160 be

01:34:51.020 identical

01:34:51.980 to

01:34:52.520 what

01:34:52.680 happens

01:34:53.080 in

01:34:53.240 the

01:34:53.340 New

01:34:53.460 Testament

01:34:53.820 then

01:34:54.100 you

01:34:54.260 can't

01:34:54.540 have

01:34:54.740 a

01:34:54.940 greater

01:34:55.600 mediator

01:34:56.260 or

01:34:56.460 greater

01:34:56.860 covenant

01:34:57.300 or

01:34:57.580 any

01:34:57.880 of

01:34:58.020 those

01:34:58.160 things

01:34:58.360 you're

01:34:58.560 limited

01:34:58.840 only to

01:34:59.320 Old

01:34:59.500 Testament

01:34:59.760 categories

01:35:00.380 so

01:35:01.240 how do

01:35:01.980 you

01:35:02.100 answer

01:35:04.580 the

01:35:04.800 question

01:35:05.080 how were

01:35:05.660 the Jews

01:35:06.080 supposed to know

01:35:06.660 Jesus was

01:35:07.180 the Messiah

01:35:07.620 by his

01:35:09.580 works

01:35:09.940 it's very

01:35:10.780 simple

01:35:11.100 by him

01:35:11.720 claiming

01:35:12.300 to be

01:35:13.160 the Messiah

01:35:13.660 based upon

01:35:14.800 what he

01:35:16.320 read from

01:35:16.660 the Old

01:35:16.960 Testament

01:35:17.300 so

01:35:17.960 Jesus

01:35:20.260 could

01:35:21.420 make

01:35:21.660 reference

01:35:22.140 to

01:35:22.420 the Old

01:35:22.760 Testament

01:35:23.060 and say

01:35:23.500 this

01:35:24.260 proves

01:35:24.780 that

01:35:24.920 I'm

01:35:25.080 the

01:35:25.200 Messiah

01:35:25.560 so

01:35:27.100 where

01:35:27.460 is

01:35:27.640 there

01:35:27.780 any

01:35:28.060 place

01:35:28.420 in

01:35:28.560 the

01:35:28.680 Old

01:35:28.840 Testament

01:35:29.220 where

01:35:29.600 there

01:35:29.780 is

01:35:29.920 a

01:35:30.080 prophecy

01:35:30.540 that

01:35:31.320 could

01:35:31.540 possibly

01:35:32.080 live up

01:35:32.700 to

01:35:32.860 the

01:35:33.000 level

01:35:33.300 of

01:35:33.800 clarity

01:35:34.380 that

01:35:34.660 you

01:35:34.780 just

01:35:35.040 demanded

01:35:35.420 from

01:35:35.640 Psalm 91

01:35:36.260 by the way

01:35:37.160 it's

01:35:37.340 Psalm 91

01:35:38.040 Psalms 91

01:35:39.820 yes

01:35:40.200 it's not

01:35:40.580 Psalms

01:35:41.000 it's

01:35:41.240 Psalm

01:35:41.560 right

01:35:42.320 okay

01:35:42.640 you don't

01:35:43.480 say

01:35:43.640 Songs 91

01:35:44.500 Psalm 91

01:35:48.000 when I say

01:35:48.960 Psalms

01:35:49.340 the book

01:35:49.620 of Psalms

01:35:50.140 chapter 91

01:35:51.500 just one of my

01:35:52.320 little

01:35:52.520 sorry

01:35:52.860 it was like

01:35:54.440 you were

01:35:54.680 pulling your

01:35:55.360 fingernails

01:35:55.860 down

01:35:56.120 right

01:35:56.860 so

01:35:59.400 when we

01:36:00.940 read this

01:36:01.820 chapter

01:36:02.140 it is

01:36:03.120 very clear

01:36:03.740 that it's

01:36:04.180 talking about

01:36:05.800 a

01:36:06.900 messianic

01:36:07.340 figure

01:36:07.620 who will

01:36:08.600 be saved

01:36:09.100 right

01:36:09.980 and then

01:36:10.940 the book

01:36:11.300 of Matthew

01:36:11.640 tells us

01:36:12.200 that this

01:36:12.980 passage

01:36:13.400 is talking

01:36:14.200 about

01:36:14.440 Jesus

01:36:14.740 it's

01:36:15.980 very

01:36:16.340 perplexing

01:36:17.640 that

01:36:18.000 then

01:36:19.080 Matthew

01:36:19.660 Luke

01:36:20.040 and Mark

01:36:20.500 go on

01:36:21.020 to

01:36:21.200 claim

01:36:21.600 that

01:36:21.780 Jesus

01:36:21.960 died

01:36:22.240 on the

01:36:22.440 cross

01:36:22.720 so

01:36:23.320 your

01:36:23.500 assumption

01:36:25.280 is

01:36:26.020 that

01:36:26.900 dying

01:36:27.240 on the

01:36:27.520 cross

01:36:27.880 is not

01:36:28.360 being

01:36:28.640 saved

01:36:29.060 even

01:36:29.320 though

01:36:29.560 Matthew

01:36:29.900 Mark

01:36:30.140 Luke

01:36:30.320 and

01:36:30.460 John

01:36:30.680 also

01:36:31.040 say

01:36:31.380 he

01:36:31.800 is

01:36:32.000 then

01:36:32.220 resurrected

01:36:32.760 and

01:36:33.040 exalted

01:36:33.400 at the

01:36:33.640 right

01:36:33.800 hand

01:36:34.020 of the

01:36:34.220 father

01:36:34.480 which

01:36:34.720 is

01:36:34.860 the

01:36:34.980 greatest

01:36:35.200 form

01:36:35.440 of

01:36:35.560 salvation

01:36:35.980 that

01:36:36.140 could

01:36:36.220 ever

01:36:36.380 be

01:36:36.660 no

01:36:37.060 but

01:36:37.200 if

01:36:37.380 you

01:36:37.500 read

01:36:37.740 the

01:36:38.000 chapter

01:36:39.500 91

01:36:40.020 it

01:36:40.520 clearly

01:36:40.880 states

01:36:41.220 that

01:36:41.420 he

01:36:41.600 will

01:36:41.920 not

01:36:42.500 suffer

01:36:42.920 he

01:36:43.460 will

01:36:43.580 not

01:36:43.760 suffer

01:36:44.060 you

01:36:44.740 will

01:36:44.900 not

01:36:45.080 fear

01:36:45.440 Jesus

01:36:46.420 was

01:36:46.680 clearly

01:36:47.000 in a

01:36:47.300 state

01:36:47.460 of

01:36:47.600 fear

01:36:47.800 right

01:36:48.360 we

01:36:48.600 know

01:36:48.800 the

01:36:49.060 passages

01:36:49.420 where

01:36:50.160 he

01:36:50.360 fell

01:36:50.620 on

01:36:50.740 his

01:36:50.860 face

01:36:51.160 and

01:36:51.320 he

01:36:51.420 prayed

01:36:51.580 to

01:36:51.760 God

01:36:51.960 and

01:36:52.820 there

01:36:55.160 are

01:36:55.280 other

01:36:55.480 passages

01:36:55.840 here

01:36:56.060 we

01:36:56.840 are

01:36:57.580 going to

01:36:57.680 have

01:36:57.800 to

01:36:57.900 disagree

01:36:58.100 on

01:36:58.240 how

01:36:58.400 you

01:36:58.560 can

01:36:59.060 even

01:36:59.280 come

01:36:59.540 up

01:36:59.700 with

01:36:59.940 these

01:37:01.620 issues

01:37:01.920 but

01:37:02.140 you

01:37:02.660 said

01:37:03.500 that

01:37:03.760 Paul

01:37:04.360 originated

01:37:05.320 the

01:37:06.440 atonement

01:37:07.000 theory

01:37:07.520 was

01:37:09.000 that

01:37:09.200 your

01:37:09.520 direct

01:37:10.000 statement

01:37:10.240 atonement

01:37:11.200 by

01:37:11.580 human

01:37:12.000 sacrifice

01:37:12.700 in

01:37:13.880 the

01:37:15.800 form

01:37:16.020 of

01:37:16.160 Jesus

01:37:16.380 Christ

01:37:16.740 dying

01:37:17.040 on

01:37:17.160 the

01:37:17.280 cross

01:37:17.540 there

01:37:19.120 are

01:37:19.280 some

01:37:19.440 theories

01:37:19.800 that

01:37:20.280 Paul

01:37:21.040 had

01:37:21.620 to

01:37:21.780 come

01:37:21.960 up

01:37:22.080 with

01:37:22.200 that

01:37:22.400 because

01:37:22.820 the

01:37:23.740 Jewish

01:37:23.960 people

01:37:24.280 had

01:37:24.460 rejected

01:37:24.860 the

01:37:26.100 killed

01:37:26.460 Messiah

01:37:26.940 they

01:37:27.760 simply

01:37:28.280 couldn't

01:37:29.100 believe

01:37:30.100 in a

01:37:30.320 Messiah

01:37:30.560 who was

01:37:30.860 killed

01:37:31.140 on

01:37:31.480 the

01:37:31.640 cross

01:37:31.920 or

01:37:32.200 was

01:37:33.880 hung

01:37:34.320 on

01:37:34.520 a

01:37:34.640 tree

01:37:34.880 and

01:37:36.080 as

01:37:36.520 the

01:37:36.740 Old

01:37:36.900 Testament

01:37:37.140 is

01:37:37.300 very

01:37:37.440 clear

01:37:37.660 about

01:37:37.840 that

01:37:38.000 that

01:37:38.140 would

01:37:38.260 be

01:37:38.380 a

01:37:38.520 curse

01:37:38.880 right

01:37:39.500 and

01:37:40.100 Paul

01:37:40.320 refers

01:37:40.660 to

01:37:40.800 that

01:37:41.000 curse

01:37:41.380 and

01:37:42.320 turns

01:37:42.760 that

01:37:42.980 curse

01:37:43.240 into

01:37:43.500 a

01:37:43.700 positive

01:37:43.940 thing

01:37:44.300 so

01:37:44.840 if

01:37:46.040 that's

01:37:46.580 the

01:37:46.700 case

01:37:47.000 though

01:37:47.320 and

01:37:48.180 James

01:37:48.640 is

01:37:49.040 actually

01:37:49.320 writing

01:37:49.600 against

01:37:49.860 Paul

01:37:50.160 why is

01:37:50.520 there

01:37:50.620 no

01:37:50.800 condemnation

01:37:51.420 of

01:37:51.580 atonement

01:37:51.840 theology

01:37:52.340 in

01:37:52.740 the

01:37:52.960 epistle

01:37:53.200 of

01:37:53.380 James

01:37:53.700 well

01:37:54.400 well

01:37:54.420 that's

01:37:54.640 that's

01:37:54.660 what

01:37:54.700 that's

01:37:55.560 what

01:37:55.640 it is

01:37:56.040 is

01:37:56.100 when

01:37:56.720 James

01:37:57.840 is

01:37:58.320 telling

01:37:58.720 that

01:38:00.700 you

01:38:01.380 cannot

01:38:01.820 have

01:38:03.340 faith

01:38:03.760 alone

01:38:04.200 without

01:38:04.580 works

01:38:05.020 that's

01:38:06.820 not

01:38:06.980 atonement

01:38:07.280 theology

01:38:07.840 in

01:38:08.680 other

01:38:08.820 words

01:38:09.000 if

01:38:09.520 in

01:38:10.820 fact

01:38:11.220 this

01:38:11.540 radical

01:38:12.340 thing

01:38:13.240 does

01:38:13.580 not

01:38:13.760 find

01:38:13.960 its

01:38:14.100 origination

01:38:14.660 in

01:38:14.900 Psalm

01:38:15.180 22

01:38:15.700 and

01:38:16.220 in

01:38:16.720 Isaiah

01:38:17.240 53

01:38:17.860 but

01:38:18.720 Paul

01:38:19.180 came up

01:38:19.660 with

01:38:19.860 it

01:38:20.100 then

01:38:20.800 wouldn't

01:38:21.180 that

01:38:21.400 be

01:38:21.640 the

01:38:21.920 central

01:38:22.420 aspect

01:38:22.960 of

01:38:23.520 the

01:38:23.720 book

01:38:23.880 of

01:38:24.020 James

01:38:24.320 no

01:38:24.620 that

01:38:24.900 is

01:38:25.080 the

01:38:25.260 atonement

01:38:25.620 theology

01:38:26.040 of

01:38:26.240 Paul

01:38:26.520 Paul

01:38:26.980 talks

01:38:27.980 about

01:38:28.260 law

01:38:28.820 no

01:38:29.240 longer

01:38:29.520 being

01:38:29.760 necessary

01:38:30.280 because

01:38:30.620 of

01:38:30.740 the

01:38:30.820 sacrifice

01:38:31.220 of

01:38:31.400 Jesus

01:38:31.560 Christ

01:38:31.940 law

01:38:32.920 has

01:38:34.040 become

01:38:34.500 unnecessary

01:38:35.460 because

01:38:36.600 Jesus

01:38:38.180 died

01:38:38.480 on the

01:38:38.720 cross

01:38:38.940 for

01:38:39.100 us

01:38:39.220 I

01:38:39.440 have

01:38:39.620 passages

01:38:39.980 here

01:38:40.240 does

01:38:41.000 James

01:38:41.360 ever

01:38:42.020 use

01:38:42.500 the

01:38:42.740 term

01:38:43.040 atonement

01:38:43.760 and

01:38:44.120 say

01:38:44.280 no

01:38:44.400 he

01:38:44.620 doesn't

01:38:44.880 he

01:38:45.020 doesn't

01:38:45.260 have

01:38:45.420 to

01:38:45.620 because

01:38:46.300 I

01:38:46.740 don't

01:38:47.000 think

01:38:47.160 the

01:38:50.100 was

01:38:50.660 even

01:38:51.280 known

01:38:51.500 to

01:38:51.640 everyone

01:38:52.000 propitiation

01:38:53.000 there's

01:38:53.480 all

01:38:53.780 sorts

01:38:53.980 of

01:38:54.100 terms

01:38:54.320 that

01:38:54.440 can

01:38:54.460 be

01:38:54.560 used

01:38:54.780 but

01:38:55.060 when

01:38:56.780 you

01:38:56.940 actually

01:38:57.480 read

01:38:58.040 James

01:38:58.580 it's

01:38:59.340 a

01:38:59.800 epistle

01:39:00.880 exhorting

01:39:02.000 people

01:39:02.380 to live

01:39:02.960 the

01:39:03.160 Christian

01:39:03.520 life

01:39:03.900 this

01:39:04.140 idea

01:39:04.440 that

01:39:04.620 it's

01:39:04.740 some

01:39:04.920 corrective

01:39:05.560 I

01:39:07.080 don't

01:39:07.380 even

01:39:07.520 know

01:39:07.640 where

01:39:07.760 it

01:39:07.880 comes

01:39:08.120 from

01:39:08.400 but

01:39:08.680 there's

01:39:10.480 nothing

01:39:10.860 in

01:39:11.380 the

01:39:12.360 epistle

01:39:12.720 that

01:39:13.040 even

01:39:13.320 addresses

01:39:13.800 the

01:39:14.140 idea

01:39:14.620 of

01:39:15.380 denying

01:39:15.920 substitutionary

01:39:17.060 atonement

01:39:17.780 the

01:39:19.580 sacrifice

01:39:20.100 of

01:39:20.480 Christ

01:39:21.020 and

01:39:22.060 in

01:39:22.240 fact

01:39:22.580 let

01:39:23.780 me

01:39:24.260 just

01:39:24.440 ask

01:39:24.680 you

01:39:24.780 to

01:39:24.900 look

01:39:25.060 at

01:39:25.180 one

01:39:25.520 text

01:39:26.320 and

01:39:26.720 tell

01:39:27.080 me

01:39:27.200 if

01:39:27.300 it

01:39:27.400 doesn't

01:39:27.700 seem

01:39:28.000 to

01:39:28.720 sound

01:39:30.400 just

01:39:30.680 like

01:39:30.940 Paul

01:39:31.220 James

01:39:32.820 chapter

01:39:33.120 1

01:39:33.380 verse

01:39:33.620 18

01:39:34.140 in

01:39:34.960 the

01:39:35.120 exercise

01:39:35.660 of

01:39:36.160 his

01:39:36.440 will

01:39:36.900 he

01:39:37.560 brought

01:39:37.880 us

01:39:38.120 forth

01:39:38.580 by

01:39:38.860 the

01:39:39.060 word

01:39:39.280 of

01:39:39.440 truth

01:39:39.960 so

01:39:40.600 that

01:39:40.740 we

01:39:40.900 would

01:39:41.060 be

01:39:41.220 a

01:39:41.380 kind

01:39:41.700 of

01:39:41.900 first

01:39:42.280 fruits

01:39:42.740 among

01:39:43.140 his

01:39:43.360 creatures

01:39:43.760 I

01:39:43.960 mean

01:39:44.040 that

01:39:44.180 sounds

01:39:44.460 like

01:39:44.660 Romans

01:39:44.940 chapter

01:39:45.280 8

01:39:45.740 so

01:39:47.020 why

01:39:47.220 is

01:39:47.340 using

01:39:47.680 Pauline

01:39:48.160 language

01:39:48.540 if

01:39:48.760 he's

01:39:48.920 actually

01:39:49.240 trying

01:39:49.540 to

01:39:49.680 correct

01:39:49.900 Paul

01:39:50.280 that

01:39:51.820 actually

01:39:52.160 proves

01:39:52.460 my

01:39:52.640 point

01:39:52.980 that's

01:39:54.480 that's

01:39:54.720 a

01:39:54.800 point

01:39:54.980 in

01:39:55.100 my

01:39:55.280 favor

01:39:55.580 because

01:39:56.400 when

01:39:57.540 people

01:39:57.880 refuse

01:39:59.580 to

01:39:59.780 accept

01:40:00.040 that

01:40:00.300 James

01:40:00.640 is

01:40:00.780 actually

01:40:01.060 talking

01:40:01.360 to

01:40:01.540 Paul

01:40:01.740 when

01:40:01.920 he

01:40:02.020 says

01:40:02.220 you

01:40:02.380 foolish

01:40:02.760 man

01:40:03.160 you

01:40:03.700 senseless

01:40:04.160 man

01:40:04.540 people

01:40:05.100 say

01:40:05.320 he's

01:40:05.980 not

01:40:06.180 talking

01:40:06.300 to

01:40:06.440 Paul

01:40:06.680 but

01:40:07.100 if

01:40:07.280 you're

01:40:07.360 claiming

01:40:07.600 that

01:40:07.800 he's

01:40:07.960 talking

01:40:08.260 he's

01:40:08.840 using

01:40:09.080 Paul's

01:40:09.520 language

01:40:09.940 that

01:40:10.220 means

01:40:10.420 he's

01:40:10.600 actually

01:40:10.800 talking

01:40:11.080 to

01:40:11.280 Paul

01:40:11.480 but

01:40:11.640 in

01:40:11.760 agreement

01:40:12.160 all

01:40:13.680 the

01:40:13.840 apostles

01:40:14.220 would

01:40:14.420 use

01:40:14.580 this

01:40:14.740 language

01:40:15.220 right

01:40:15.980 but

01:40:16.780 you're

01:40:17.320 missing

01:40:17.480 my

01:40:17.660 point

01:40:17.880 I'm

01:40:18.100 saying

01:40:18.340 if

01:40:18.720 you're

01:40:19.720 claiming

01:40:19.960 that

01:40:20.160 James

01:40:20.400 was

01:40:20.560 using

01:40:20.800 Paul's

01:40:21.180 language

01:40:21.520 that

01:40:21.880 means

01:40:22.120 he

01:40:22.300 knew

01:40:22.460 Paul's

01:40:22.840 language

01:40:23.220 that's

01:40:24.080 the

01:40:24.220 case

01:40:24.480 he's

01:40:25.140 talking

01:40:25.380 to

01:40:25.580 Paul

01:40:25.940 and

01:40:26.220 he's

01:40:26.360 calling

01:40:26.600 him

01:40:26.760 a

01:40:26.860 foolish

01:40:27.060 man

01:40:27.360 in

01:40:28.380 James

01:40:28.680 2

01:40:28.920 14

01:40:29.320 it

01:40:30.760 specifically

01:40:31.340 says

01:40:32.040 can

01:40:32.940 a

01:40:33.360 faith

01:40:34.820 that

01:40:35.060 has

01:40:35.400 no

01:40:36.020 evidence

01:40:36.480 of his

01:40:36.740 existence

01:40:37.160 save

01:40:38.020 do you

01:40:38.980 think

01:40:39.120 that's

01:40:39.360 actually

01:40:39.600 what

01:40:39.760 Paul

01:40:39.960 was

01:40:40.140 teaching

01:40:40.460 Paul

01:40:43.340 was

01:40:43.580 teaching

01:40:43.920 that

01:40:44.340 like

01:40:45.240 for

01:40:45.400 example

01:40:45.780 let's

01:40:46.520 read

01:40:47.280 sorry

01:40:48.400 if

01:40:48.780 everyone

01:40:49.040 could

01:40:49.260 please

01:40:49.600 silence

01:40:50.000 their

01:40:50.220 cell

01:40:50.540 the

01:40:50.720 time

01:40:50.920 elapsed

01:40:51.600 and I

01:40:51.860 didn't

01:40:52.340 get to

01:40:52.600 it

01:40:52.720 fast

01:40:52.940 enough

01:40:53.220 right

01:40:54.660 okay

01:40:55.200 my

01:40:55.700 turn

01:40:56.060 I hit

01:41:01.380 cancel

01:41:01.740 it's

01:41:01.960 supposed

01:41:02.140 to

01:41:02.300 stop

01:41:02.580 I

01:41:02.720 don't

01:41:02.820 know

01:41:02.920 why

01:41:03.040 it

01:41:03.160 doesn't

01:41:04.540 so this

01:41:07.600 is the

01:41:07.760 last 10

01:41:08.120 minutes

01:41:08.340 right

01:41:08.560 all

01:41:09.360 right

01:41:09.520 it's

01:41:12.580 all

01:41:12.700 yours

01:41:12.980 right

01:41:14.300 so

01:41:14.660 as

01:41:15.100 we're

01:41:15.260 talking

01:41:15.460 about

01:41:15.680 James

01:41:15.960 and

01:41:16.120 Paul

01:41:16.460 look

01:41:17.960 James

01:41:19.260 is

01:41:19.440 talking

01:41:19.720 about

01:41:20.200 and

01:41:21.960 let's

01:41:22.300 see

01:41:22.660 what

01:41:22.840 he

01:41:22.980 has

01:41:23.140 to

01:41:23.240 say

01:41:23.380 what

01:41:23.940 good

01:41:24.620 is

01:41:24.780 it

01:41:24.960 my

01:41:25.280 brothers

01:41:25.680 and

01:41:25.960 sisters

01:41:26.280 if

01:41:26.580 you

01:41:26.740 say

01:41:27.000 you

01:41:27.240 have

01:41:27.440 faith

01:41:27.900 but

01:41:28.400 do

01:41:28.560 not

01:41:28.740 have

01:41:28.980 works

01:41:29.380 can

01:41:29.920 faith

01:41:30.360 save

01:41:30.820 you

01:41:31.040 okay

01:41:31.340 you

01:41:31.780 you're

01:41:32.260 starting

01:41:32.620 way

01:41:33.380 too

01:41:33.620 far

01:41:33.960 into

01:41:34.100 the

01:41:34.220 passage

01:41:34.620 I'm

01:41:35.920 reading

01:41:36.180 James

01:41:36.520 2

01:41:36.720 14

01:41:37.120 which

01:41:37.540 is

01:41:37.640 what

01:41:37.760 you

01:41:37.880 referred

01:41:38.160 to

01:41:38.400 right

01:41:38.800 yeah

01:41:39.300 that's

01:41:39.860 what

01:41:39.940 he

01:41:40.040 states

01:41:40.260 and

01:41:40.640 then

01:41:40.800 it

01:41:40.920 goes

01:41:41.120 on

01:41:41.420 in

01:41:41.760 verse

01:41:41.980 20

01:41:42.440 same

01:41:43.360 chapter

01:41:43.780 do

01:41:44.400 you

01:41:44.560 want

01:41:44.820 to

01:41:44.940 be

01:41:45.100 shown

01:41:45.480 you

01:41:45.780 senseless

01:41:46.320 person

01:41:47.180 or

01:41:47.960 in

01:41:48.120 some

01:41:48.300 translations

01:41:48.740 you

01:41:49.000 foolish

01:41:49.340 man

01:41:49.700 that

01:41:50.400 faith

01:41:50.800 apart

01:41:51.200 from

01:41:51.400 works

01:41:51.660 is

01:41:51.800 barren

01:41:52.300 was not

01:41:53.440 our

01:41:55.100 ancestor

01:41:55.560 Abraham

01:41:56.040 justified

01:41:56.500 by works

01:41:57.080 when he

01:41:57.880 offered

01:41:58.260 his son

01:41:58.740 Isaac

01:41:59.160 on

01:41:59.560 the

01:42:00.160 altar

01:42:00.480 you

01:42:01.880 see

01:42:02.240 that

01:42:02.600 faith

01:42:02.900 was

01:42:03.080 active

01:42:03.460 along

01:42:03.720 with

01:42:03.880 his

01:42:04.020 works

01:42:04.380 and

01:42:04.700 faith

01:42:05.040 was

01:42:05.220 brought

01:42:05.500 to

01:42:05.700 completion

01:42:06.120 by

01:42:06.400 the

01:42:06.560 works

01:42:06.900 I'm

01:42:07.780 going

01:42:07.860 to

01:42:07.980 ask

01:42:08.460 if

01:42:10.220 we

01:42:10.480 have

01:42:10.740 a

01:42:10.880 copy

01:42:11.200 of

01:42:11.580 the

01:42:11.700 God

01:42:11.900 who

01:42:12.040 justifies

01:42:12.680 in

01:42:12.940 the

01:42:13.040 back

01:42:13.340 and

01:42:14.080 if

01:42:14.200 we

01:42:14.340 do

01:42:14.580 I'm

01:42:15.420 going

01:42:15.560 to

01:42:15.740 personally

01:42:16.300 pay

01:42:16.680 for it

01:42:17.040 and ask

01:42:17.640 that it

01:42:18.000 be given

01:42:18.380 thank you

01:42:19.380 to

01:42:20.240 brother

01:42:20.940 can you

01:42:22.180 bring that

01:42:22.460 up brother

01:42:22.860 to

01:42:24.340 another

01:42:25.400 another

01:42:25.440 present

01:42:25.800 for you

01:42:27.400 because

01:42:27.920 I

01:42:28.760 can't

01:42:30.640 summarize

01:42:31.020 a

01:42:31.400 24

01:42:31.740 page

01:42:32.280 exegesis

01:42:33.140 right

01:42:33.520 now

01:42:34.080 but let

01:42:34.400 me

01:42:34.500 just

01:42:34.680 do

01:42:35.200 this

01:42:35.380 for

01:42:35.520 you

01:42:35.680 what

01:42:36.500 use

01:42:36.860 is

01:42:37.040 it

01:42:37.160 my

01:42:37.340 brethren

01:42:37.760 if

01:42:38.060 someone

01:42:38.440 says

01:42:38.980 he

01:42:39.160 has

01:42:39.360 faith

01:42:39.820 but

01:42:40.040 he

01:42:40.160 has

01:42:40.420 no

01:42:40.660 works

01:42:41.120 can

01:42:42.000 that

01:42:42.720 faith

01:42:43.200 save

01:42:43.500 him

01:42:43.620 pistis

01:42:44.040 has

01:42:44.340 the

01:42:44.520 Greek

01:42:44.760 article

01:42:45.160 there

01:42:45.500 it

01:42:46.320 is

01:42:46.620 functioning

01:42:47.220 to

01:42:47.520 say

01:42:47.780 this

01:42:48.400 kind

01:42:48.860 of

01:42:49.040 faith

01:42:49.340 it

01:42:49.560 is

01:42:49.720 a

01:42:49.920 faith

01:42:50.440 that

01:42:51.120 cannot

01:42:51.840 give

01:42:52.480 evidence

01:42:53.120 of

01:42:53.540 its

01:42:53.740 existence

01:42:54.360 that

01:42:55.560 is

01:42:55.820 the

01:42:56.020 faith

01:42:56.640 that

01:42:56.860 is

01:42:57.000 being

01:42:57.340 eschewed

01:42:58.200 and

01:42:58.420 condemned

01:42:58.960 throughout

01:42:59.640 this

01:43:00.080 text

01:43:00.520 and

01:43:00.840 it

01:43:00.980 is

01:43:01.180 never

01:43:01.900 ever

01:43:02.900 Paul's

01:43:03.680 teaching

01:43:04.100 that

01:43:05.160 the

01:43:05.360 faith

01:43:05.920 that

01:43:06.060 is

01:43:06.200 produced

01:43:06.620 by

01:43:06.880 the

01:43:07.060 spirit

01:43:07.380 of

01:43:07.580 God

01:43:07.900 in

01:43:08.100 the

01:43:08.200 hearts

01:43:09.520 of

01:43:09.680 the

01:43:09.780 elect

01:43:10.060 of

01:43:10.200 God's

01:43:10.540 people

01:43:10.860 is

01:43:11.820 that

01:43:12.160 kind

01:43:12.560 of

01:43:12.720 faith

01:43:13.140 okay

01:43:13.500 I'll

01:43:14.140 stop

01:43:14.400 you

01:43:14.540 there

01:43:14.680 because

01:43:14.900 you're

01:43:15.060 doing

01:43:15.200 now

01:43:15.420 exegesis

01:43:16.160 right

01:43:16.500 yes

01:43:17.140 okay

01:43:17.660 that's

01:43:18.220 what we

01:43:18.400 have

01:43:18.620 to

01:43:18.740 do

01:43:18.860 let's

01:43:19.400 go

01:43:19.520 to

01:43:22.480 question

01:43:22.720 is

01:43:22.920 taking

01:43:23.340 place

01:43:23.800 on

01:43:24.560 the

01:43:24.740 issue

01:43:25.000 of

01:43:25.180 law

01:43:25.480 this

01:43:25.920 very

01:43:26.220 issue

01:43:26.480 we're

01:43:26.660 talking

01:43:26.900 about

01:43:27.200 this

01:43:27.880 is

01:43:27.980 where

01:43:28.080 the

01:43:28.180 problem

01:43:28.440 was

01:43:28.820 Paul

01:43:29.800 was

01:43:30.180 in

01:43:30.420 Jerusalem

01:43:30.760 to

01:43:31.180 justify

01:43:31.580 himself

01:43:32.100 for

01:43:32.640 what

01:43:32.780 he

01:43:32.900 was

01:43:33.020 doing

01:43:33.240 you're

01:43:33.360 talking

01:43:33.440 about

01:43:33.620 Acts

01:43:33.780 15

01:43:34.040 yes

01:43:34.920 I'm

01:43:35.160 talking

01:43:35.460 about

01:43:35.600 the

01:43:35.660 book

01:43:35.800 of

01:43:35.920 Acts

01:43:36.160 it's

01:43:36.420 a

01:43:36.560 long

01:43:36.980 you know

01:43:37.980 yeah

01:43:38.480 but

01:43:38.680 the

01:43:38.940 Jerusalem

01:43:39.420 council

01:43:39.860 in

01:43:40.020 Acts

01:43:40.180 chapter

01:43:40.360 15

01:43:40.720 exactly

01:43:41.160 so

01:43:41.940 why

01:43:42.660 are

01:43:42.840 they

01:43:42.960 discussing

01:43:43.380 law

01:43:43.920 why

01:43:45.040 are

01:43:45.200 they

01:43:45.280 even

01:43:45.420 discussing

01:43:45.820 it

01:43:46.020 when

01:43:46.260 Paul

01:43:46.780 himself

01:43:47.240 is

01:43:47.540 clearly

01:43:48.300 preaching

01:43:50.380 to people

01:43:51.080 that it

01:43:51.760 is not

01:43:52.040 necessary

01:43:52.480 to follow

01:43:52.920 the law

01:43:53.280 anymore

01:43:53.720 because

01:43:54.360 Jesus

01:43:54.620 died

01:43:54.880 for our

01:43:55.180 sins

01:43:55.440 so

01:43:55.960 and

01:43:57.240 Paul

01:43:57.540 was

01:43:57.880 according

01:43:58.360 to the

01:43:58.620 book

01:43:58.740 of

01:43:58.880 Acts

01:43:59.120 accused

01:43:59.840 of

01:44:00.020 that

01:44:00.220 very

01:44:00.920 thing

01:44:01.280 that

01:44:01.940 very

01:44:02.380 idea

01:44:03.040 actually

01:44:03.820 if you

01:44:04.320 look at

01:44:04.700 Acts

01:44:04.900 chapter

01:44:05.160 15

01:44:05.680 Adnan

01:44:06.200 the

01:44:07.520 Paul

01:44:09.120 does

01:44:09.880 give

01:44:10.540 testimony

01:44:11.260 concerning

01:44:12.140 his

01:44:12.420 ministry

01:44:12.840 amongst

01:44:13.160 the

01:44:13.320 Gentiles

01:44:13.780 but

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01:44:25.560 James

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01:44:51.660 judgment

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01:44:53.180 Acts

01:44:53.380 15

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01:45:27.260 Jerusalem

01:45:27.540 church

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01:45:28.840 the

01:45:28.960 term

01:45:29.460 bishop

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01:45:35.240 the

01:45:35.460 law

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01:45:41.200 the

01:45:41.300 words

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01:46:19.880 Christian

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01:46:52.600 Acts

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01:47:12.020 and

01:47:12.620 James

01:47:13.060 and

01:47:13.420 Peter

01:47:13.740 right

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01:47:16.720 unity

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01:47:25.560 said

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01:47:26.340 is

01:47:26.460 no

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01:47:27.580 part

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01:47:29.300 it

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01:47:31.320 decided

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01:47:35.100 the

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01:47:38.740 doesn't

01:47:38.980 say

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01:47:39.820 say

01:47:39.940 that

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01:47:40.220 the

01:47:40.300 text

01:47:40.560 yeah

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01:47:41.580 look

01:47:41.740 at

01:47:41.820 what

01:47:41.920 the

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01:47:45.760 hot

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01:47:46.800 getting

01:47:47.040 heated

01:47:47.420 now

01:47:47.780 right

01:47:48.280 no

01:47:48.720 no

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01:47:50.900 think

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01:47:51.640 I

01:47:52.140 really

01:47:52.540 honestly

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01:47:53.600 with

01:47:53.800 Acts

01:47:54.060 chapter

01:47:54.380 15

01:47:55.020 rather

01:47:55.820 in

01:47:56.200 depth

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01:47:58.700 my

01:47:58.900 Roman

01:47:59.080 Catholic

01:47:59.500 friends

01:48:00.020 in

01:48:00.260 another

01:48:00.520 context

01:48:00.980 so

01:48:01.260 I

01:48:02.060 I've

01:48:02.820 done

01:48:02.960 a lot

01:48:03.180 of

01:48:03.280 work

01:48:03.480 on

01:48:03.700 it

01:48:03.860 and

01:48:04.380 I

01:48:09.820 going

01:48:10.000 to

01:48:10.100 ask

01:48:10.460 you

01:48:10.820 honestly

01:48:12.360 to

01:48:13.760 look

01:48:14.980 carefully

01:48:15.600 at

01:48:16.380 what

01:48:16.600 I

01:48:16.820 did

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01:48:17.340 James

01:48:17.620 chapter

01:48:17.940 2

01:48:18.180 we

01:48:18.320 left

01:48:18.580 James

01:48:18.900 chapter

01:48:19.180 2

01:48:19.460 I

01:48:19.480 will

01:48:19.660 definitely

01:48:20.040 do

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01:48:20.600 because

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01:48:21.560 honestly

01:48:22.140 believe

01:48:22.920 that

01:48:24.000 the

01:48:24.740 reason

01:48:25.280 that

01:48:25.560 Luther

01:48:25.820 said

01:48:26.160 you

01:48:26.360 quoted

01:48:26.660 Luther

01:48:27.020 yes

01:48:27.900 you

01:48:28.240 know

01:48:28.360 why

01:48:28.740 Luther

01:48:29.020 said

01:48:29.300 that

01:48:29.520 because

01:48:30.300 Luther

01:48:30.720 was

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01:48:31.180 a

01:48:31.320 battle

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01:48:32.180 his

01:48:32.420 life

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01:48:33.260 Roman

01:48:33.520 Catholicism

01:48:34.280 yes

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01:48:35.020 as

01:48:35.420 a

01:48:35.580 result

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01:48:36.400 you've

01:48:36.760 seen

01:48:37.020 this

01:48:37.360 in

01:48:37.880 the

01:48:38.040 history

01:48:38.520 of

01:48:39.240 Islam

01:48:39.760 there

01:48:40.540 will

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01:48:41.260 that

01:48:41.480 go

01:48:41.680 on

01:48:41.960 and

01:48:42.140 some

01:48:42.360 people

01:48:42.600 become

01:48:42.980 somewhat

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01:48:45.300 against

01:48:45.660 a

01:48:45.820 particular

01:48:46.280 position

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01:48:49.260 I

01:48:49.420 think

01:48:49.640 must

01:48:50.340 recognize

01:48:51.140 that

01:48:52.380 Acts

01:48:52.840 15

01:48:53.400 is

01:48:53.800 consistent

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01:48:55.220 a

01:48:55.400 proper

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01:48:56.180 of

01:48:56.420 James

01:48:56.720 chapter

01:48:57.060 2

01:48:57.380 and

01:48:57.980 this

01:48:58.180 whole

01:48:58.380 idea

01:48:58.680 that

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01:49:05.300 the

01:49:05.420 Bible

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01:49:06.340 argument

01:49:06.620 there

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01:49:09.520 think

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01:49:09.900 consistent

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01:49:10.920 as

01:49:11.180 a

01:49:11.420 Muslim

01:49:12.080 who

01:49:12.700 has

01:49:12.960 your

01:49:13.100 own

01:49:13.380 book

01:49:13.580 of

01:49:13.700 revelation

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01:49:16.240 presupposition

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01:49:18.520 that

01:49:18.660 I

01:49:18.780 can

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01:49:19.620 apart

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01:49:22.340 things

01:49:22.580 that

01:49:22.720 I

01:49:22.840 did

01:49:23.040 in

01:49:23.160 my

01:49:23.280 book

01:49:23.480 on

01:49:23.620 the

01:49:23.740 Quran

01:49:23.980 is

01:49:24.640 I

01:49:24.780 attempted

01:49:25.240 to

01:49:25.800 let

01:49:25.980 the

01:49:26.120 Quran

01:49:26.380 speak

01:49:26.800 for

01:49:27.020 the

01:49:27.160 Quran

01:49:27.460 first

01:49:28.120 if

01:49:29.160 you

01:49:29.280 allow

01:49:29.540 James

01:49:30.060 and

01:49:30.280 Paul

01:49:30.500 to

01:49:30.700 speak

01:49:30.920 for

01:49:31.060 themselves

01:49:31.500 first

01:49:32.000 you

01:49:32.620 will

01:49:32.840 discover

01:49:33.300 that

01:49:33.600 they

01:49:33.720 are

01:49:33.860 friends

01:49:34.320 not

01:49:34.860 enemies

01:49:35.300 I

01:49:36.380 never

01:49:37.060 claimed

01:49:37.420 they

01:49:37.560 were

01:49:37.700 enemies

01:49:38.180 in

01:49:38.780 theologically

01:49:39.480 I'm

01:49:39.740 speaking

01:49:40.000 allegorically

01:49:41.640 they are

01:49:42.140 not

01:49:42.340 theological

01:49:42.860 enemies

01:49:43.360 I

01:49:43.700 am

01:49:44.380 aware

01:49:44.640 of

01:49:44.800 reconciliations

01:49:45.680 or attempted

01:49:46.220 reconciliations

01:49:47.020 between

01:49:47.360 James

01:49:51.420 Have you

01:49:52.480 read

01:49:52.640 mine

01:49:52.880 I

01:49:53.060 will

01:49:53.220 have

01:49:53.440 to

01:49:53.560 read

01:49:53.740 mine

01:49:54.760 that's

01:49:55.040 right

01:49:55.240 and

01:49:57.060 see

01:49:57.340 if

01:49:57.480 it

01:49:57.600 changes

01:49:57.860 my

01:49:58.060 mind

01:49:58.340 coming

01:49:59.380 to

01:50:00.560 another

01:50:00.780 question

01:50:01.260 it

01:50:04.360 is

01:50:04.500 claimed

01:50:04.760 that

01:50:04.960 Jesus

01:50:05.160 died

01:50:05.560 willingly

01:50:05.940 on

01:50:06.300 the

01:50:06.440 cross

01:50:06.720 and

01:50:07.300 there

01:50:07.460 are

01:50:07.580 some

01:50:07.740 disturbing

01:50:08.160 passages

01:50:08.580 which

01:50:08.960 I

01:50:10.640 would

01:50:10.800 like

01:50:11.020 to

01:50:11.240 hear

01:50:11.480 your

01:50:11.620 response

01:50:12.020 on

01:50:12.280 where

01:50:13.560 it

01:50:14.480 simply

01:50:14.780 states

01:50:15.100 that

01:50:15.280 Jesus

01:50:15.500 was

01:50:15.760 simply

01:50:16.060 not

01:50:16.260 willing

01:50:16.440 to

01:50:16.600 die

01:50:16.840 and

01:50:17.800 again

01:50:18.100 it

01:50:18.300 goes

01:50:18.500 back

01:50:18.720 to

01:50:18.920 Psalms

01:50:19.400 91

01:50:20.260 Psalms

01:50:21.220 chapter

01:50:21.600 91

01:50:22.160 right

01:50:22.820 okay

01:50:23.500 so

01:50:24.420 in the

01:50:25.000 book of

01:50:25.240 Matthew

01:50:25.520 chapter

01:50:25.860 21

01:50:26.260 verse

01:50:26.500 22

01:50:26.880 we're

01:50:27.140 told

01:50:27.380 you

01:50:27.580 will

01:50:27.820 receive

01:50:28.180 whatever

01:50:28.520 you

01:50:28.760 ask

01:50:29.060 for

01:50:29.280 in

01:50:29.460 prayer

01:50:29.760 right

01:50:30.920 Jesus

01:50:31.260 is

01:50:31.580 basically

01:50:32.100 telling

01:50:32.420 people

01:50:32.960 that

01:50:33.200 you

01:50:33.340 will

01:50:33.500 receive

01:50:33.860 if

01:50:34.240 you

01:50:34.320 pray

01:50:34.480 for

01:50:34.680 it

01:50:34.780 you

01:50:34.900 will

01:50:35.020 receive

01:50:35.280 it

01:50:35.520 then

01:50:36.620 we

01:50:37.000 are

01:50:37.120 told

01:50:37.380 he

01:50:37.580 prayed

01:50:37.960 in

01:50:38.100 the

01:50:38.200 gospel

01:50:38.420 of

01:50:38.560 Mark

01:50:38.720 chapter

01:50:38.960 14

01:50:39.320 36

01:50:40.120 father

01:50:40.880 he

01:50:41.480 said

01:50:41.720 everything

01:50:42.060 is

01:50:42.280 possible

01:50:42.680 for

01:50:42.900 you

01:50:43.060 take

01:50:43.820 this

01:50:44.280 cup

01:50:44.680 from

01:50:45.180 me

01:50:45.460 right

01:50:46.900 then

01:50:48.120 Luke

01:50:48.620 22

01:50:49.060 42

01:50:49.520 father

01:50:50.520 if

01:50:50.900 you

01:50:51.180 are

01:50:51.520 willing

01:50:51.880 take

01:50:52.440 this

01:50:52.820 cup

01:50:53.120 from

01:50:53.560 me

01:50:53.860 then

01:50:55.320 Matthew

01:50:55.780 26

01:50:56.300 39

01:50:56.760 my

01:50:57.480 father

01:50:57.900 if

01:50:58.500 it

01:50:58.640 is

01:50:58.800 possible

01:50:59.260 I'm

01:50:59.580 going to

01:50:59.720 run out of

01:51:00.120 time here

01:51:00.660 right

01:51:01.240 so

01:51:01.620 go

01:51:01.920 away

01:51:02.100 okay

01:51:02.400 very

01:51:03.120 very

01:51:03.300 quickly

01:51:03.600 when

01:51:05.820 Jesus

01:51:06.160 says

01:51:06.660 if

01:51:07.320 you

01:51:07.440 ask

01:51:07.820 anything

01:51:08.240 he

01:51:09.200 very

01:51:09.780 clearly

01:51:10.180 makes

01:51:10.500 a part

01:51:10.740 of

01:51:10.840 his

01:51:10.940 teaching

01:51:11.240 this

01:51:11.500 must

01:51:11.720 be

01:51:11.900 in

01:51:12.040 accordance

01:51:12.400 with

01:51:12.680 God's

01:51:13.060 will

01:51:13.260 he

01:51:13.700 doesn't

01:51:13.940 simply

01:51:14.180 say

01:51:14.420 to

01:51:14.540 us

01:51:14.740 shut

01:51:19.000 up

01:51:19.360 thank

01:51:20.100 you

01:51:20.420 sorry

01:51:21.560 he

01:51:21.980 does

01:51:22.180 not

01:51:22.460 simply

01:51:22.880 say

01:51:23.340 you

01:51:23.860 can

01:51:24.020 go

01:51:24.200 and

01:51:24.360 pray

01:51:24.560 for

01:51:24.820 a

01:51:25.400 Ferrari

01:51:25.820 and

01:51:26.100 I

01:51:26.220 automatically

01:51:26.580 give

01:51:26.920 it

01:51:27.040 to

01:51:27.140 you

01:51:27.260 it

01:51:27.480 has

01:51:27.800 to

01:51:27.940 be

01:51:28.040 in

01:51:28.140 accordance

01:51:28.440 with

01:51:28.640 God's

01:51:28.960 will

01:51:29.120 because

01:51:29.400 that

01:51:29.680 makes

01:51:29.960 your

01:51:30.160 prayer

01:51:30.600 you're

01:51:31.920 not

01:51:32.060 forcing

01:51:32.380 God

01:51:32.620 to

01:51:32.720 do

01:51:32.860 something

01:51:33.160 in

01:51:33.520 the

01:51:33.660 same

01:51:33.980 way

01:51:34.340 in

01:51:34.620 each

01:51:34.780 one

01:51:34.940 of

01:51:35.000 those

01:51:35.120 texts

01:51:35.400 you

01:51:35.500 just

01:51:35.640 read

01:51:35.860 Jesus

01:51:36.120 said

01:51:36.460 not

01:51:37.040 my

01:51:37.300 will

01:51:37.580 but

01:51:38.060 yours

01:51:38.320 be

01:51:38.520 done

01:51:38.700 so

01:51:39.540 to

01:51:40.420 really

01:51:40.720 get

01:51:40.940 to

01:51:41.120 the

01:51:41.300 normal

01:51:41.700 Muslim

01:51:42.060 objection

01:51:42.460 to

01:51:42.620 this

01:51:42.740 as

01:51:42.900 quickly

01:51:43.120 as

01:51:43.320 I

01:51:43.460 can

01:51:43.860 when

01:51:44.900 you

01:51:45.020 say

01:51:45.200 Jesus

01:51:45.560 did

01:51:45.820 not

01:51:46.040 want

01:51:46.400 to

01:51:46.600 die

01:51:47.000 what

01:51:47.640 you

01:51:47.800 really

01:51:48.600 need

01:51:48.780 to

01:51:48.860 understand

01:51:49.220 is

01:51:49.400 what

01:51:49.540 you're

01:51:49.720 seeing

01:51:50.260 in

01:51:50.620 those

01:51:50.900 words

01:51:51.160 of

01:51:51.340 Jesus

01:51:51.660 is

01:51:52.420 the

01:51:52.620 sinless

01:51:53.200 son

01:51:53.420 of

01:51:53.580 God

01:51:53.840 this

01:51:54.140 is

01:51:54.280 not

01:51:54.440 a

01:51:54.580 fear

01:51:54.760 of

01:51:54.920 death

01:51:55.260 he

01:51:56.460 recognizes

01:51:57.180 he

01:51:57.460 is

01:51:57.600 going

01:51:58.000 to

01:51:58.340 become

01:51:58.860 sin

01:51:59.640 on

01:52:00.060 the

01:52:00.200 cross

01:52:00.640 you

01:52:01.440 don't

01:52:01.640 believe

01:52:01.860 that

01:52:02.040 happened

01:52:02.520 but

01:52:03.080 it's

01:52:03.200 the

01:52:03.320 only

01:52:03.520 way

01:52:03.740 to

01:52:03.920 explain

01:52:04.480 it

01:52:04.640 because

01:52:04.880 you

01:52:05.080 believe

01:52:05.360 Jesus

01:52:05.680 was

01:52:05.860 a

01:52:06.000 prophet

01:52:06.340 a

01:52:07.840 prophet

01:52:08.200 would

01:52:08.400 not

01:52:08.580 have

01:52:08.860 mere

01:52:09.280 fear

01:52:09.660 of

01:52:09.880 death

01:52:10.280 so

01:52:10.980 why

01:52:11.200 did

01:52:11.340 Jesus

01:52:11.580 say

01:52:11.840 these

01:52:12.040 things

01:52:12.320 because

01:52:12.900 he

01:52:13.300 knew

01:52:13.620 he

01:52:13.820 was

01:52:14.020 going

01:52:14.300 to

01:52:14.480 be

01:52:14.620 made

01:52:14.860 sin

01:52:15.340 upon

01:52:15.740 the

01:52:15.960 cross

01:52:16.320 and

01:52:16.480 that

01:52:16.600 is

01:52:16.740 how

01:52:16.900 our

01:52:17.100 salvation

01:52:17.520 would

01:52:17.720 take

01:52:17.860 place

01:52:18.300 okay

01:52:19.580 gentlemen

01:52:20.120 we

01:52:20.680 are

01:52:20.800 now

01:52:21.040 going

01:52:21.320 to

01:52:21.460 move

01:52:21.840 into

01:52:22.380 the

01:52:22.680 closing

01:52:23.060 statements

01:52:23.880 Dr.

01:52:24.700 White

01:52:25.080 will

01:52:25.280 close

01:52:25.660 first

01:52:26.080 he

01:52:26.360 has

01:52:26.760 10

01:52:27.240 minutes

01:52:27.660 and

01:52:28.420 then

01:52:28.740 Mr.

01:52:29.220 Rashid

01:52:29.700 will

01:52:30.220 close

01:52:30.560 after

01:52:34.640 at

01:52:35.080 that

01:52:35.300 time

01:52:35.660 once

01:52:36.700 again

01:52:36.980 I

01:52:37.260 thank

01:52:37.560 all

01:52:37.780 of

01:52:37.900 you

01:52:38.000 for

01:52:38.200 being

01:52:38.440 here

01:52:38.680 braving

01:52:39.140 the

01:52:39.380 cold

01:52:39.820 and

01:52:40.140 the

01:52:40.360 snow

01:52:40.740 and

01:52:41.520 of

01:52:41.680 course

01:52:41.920 I

01:52:42.120 thank

01:52:42.380 Adnan

01:52:42.900 15

01:52:43.760 hour

01:52:44.340 flights

01:52:44.920 you

01:52:45.620 need

01:52:45.780 to

01:52:45.900 thank

01:52:46.100 somebody

01:52:46.480 for

01:52:46.740 surviving

01:52:47.160 something

01:52:47.500 like

01:52:47.780 that

01:52:48.120 and

01:52:48.600 coming

01:52:49.040 all

01:52:49.260 the

01:52:49.380 way

01:52:49.580 here

01:52:50.020 indeed

01:52:51.600 I

01:52:56.540 have

01:52:56.920 been

01:52:57.280 very

01:52:57.740 severely

01:52:58.280 criticized

01:52:58.780 by

01:52:59.260 many

01:52:59.620 for

01:53:00.980 the

01:53:01.180 fact

01:53:01.620 that

01:53:02.740 I

01:53:02.980 openly

01:53:03.440 profess

01:53:04.160 my

01:53:04.600 respect

01:53:05.260 for

01:53:05.720 and

01:53:06.080 love

01:53:06.440 for

01:53:06.920 Muslim

01:53:08.180 people

01:53:08.680 such

01:53:09.040 as

01:53:09.460 Adnan

01:53:09.880 I

01:53:12.380 think

01:53:12.720 Adnan

01:53:13.300 would

01:53:13.460 be

01:53:13.520 the

01:53:13.680 first

01:53:13.920 person

01:53:14.480 to

01:53:15.000 say

01:53:15.800 that

01:53:16.720 he

01:53:16.860 is

01:53:17.020 not

01:53:17.240 confused

01:53:17.880 about

01:53:18.940 what

01:53:19.180 James

01:53:19.400 White

01:53:19.600 believes

01:53:20.020 that

01:53:21.000 James

01:53:21.260 White

01:53:21.580 is

01:53:21.860 not

01:53:22.080 trying

01:53:22.340 to

01:53:22.500 compromise

01:53:22.880 with

01:53:23.240 Islam

01:53:23.660 that

01:53:24.820 James

01:53:25.100 White

01:53:25.320 is

01:53:25.420 a

01:53:25.540 critic

01:53:25.780 of

01:53:26.080 Islam

01:53:26.520 but

01:53:27.500 that

01:53:27.700 he

01:53:27.840 recognizes

01:53:28.500 that

01:53:28.940 I

01:53:29.200 criticize

01:53:29.780 seeking

01:53:30.940 to be

01:53:31.480 fair

01:53:31.980 and

01:53:32.320 honest

01:53:32.780 and

01:53:33.080 truthful

01:53:33.460 in

01:53:34.200 what

01:53:34.360 I'm

01:53:34.500 saying

01:53:34.880 and

01:53:35.680 I

01:53:35.800 think

01:53:35.940 that's

01:53:36.160 simply

01:53:36.460 what

01:53:36.620 it

01:53:36.740 means

01:53:36.960 to be

01:53:37.180 a

01:53:37.300 Christian

01:53:37.620 we

01:53:38.600 serve

01:53:39.120 him

01:53:39.380 who

01:53:39.560 is

01:53:39.740 the

01:53:39.900 truth

01:53:40.240 and

01:53:40.440 therefore

01:53:40.700 we

01:53:40.940 have

01:53:41.160 to

01:53:41.260 be

01:53:41.400 truthful

01:53:41.760 and

01:53:42.340 that

01:53:42.440 means

01:53:42.620 there

01:53:42.720 are

01:53:42.800 some

01:53:42.940 arguments

01:53:43.320 that

01:53:43.480 we

01:53:43.580 cannot

01:53:43.820 use

01:53:44.200 because

01:53:44.460 some

01:53:44.720 arguments

01:53:45.060 just

01:53:45.280 aren't

01:53:45.440 all

01:53:45.580 that

01:53:45.760 good

01:53:46.120 this

01:53:47.080 evening

01:53:47.500 our

01:53:47.900 subject

01:53:48.340 is

01:53:48.940 is

01:53:49.500 the

01:53:49.620 cross

01:53:49.960 necessary

01:53:50.480 for

01:53:50.760 salvation

01:53:51.280 and

01:53:52.440 I

01:53:52.560 said

01:53:52.860 in

01:53:53.440 my

01:53:53.600 opening

01:53:53.920 I

01:53:54.260 demonstrate

01:53:55.200 the

01:53:55.440 centrality

01:53:55.980 of the

01:53:56.260 cross

01:53:56.640 across

01:54:03.460 prophetic

01:54:03.860 stream

01:54:04.460 from

01:54:04.860 Isaiah

01:54:05.400 and

01:54:05.800 from

01:54:06.040 Psalm

01:54:06.360 22

01:54:06.840 and

01:54:07.080 there

01:54:07.180 are

01:54:07.240 so

01:54:07.360 many

01:54:07.500 other

01:54:07.680 places

01:54:08.000 we

01:54:08.200 could

01:54:08.340 have

01:54:08.460 gone

01:54:08.760 to

01:54:09.280 see

01:54:09.600 that

01:54:09.980 and

01:54:10.780 to

01:54:11.140 see

01:54:11.380 the

01:54:11.600 richness

01:54:12.040 from

01:54:12.740 which

01:54:13.040 the

01:54:13.280 apostles

01:54:13.680 drew

01:54:14.100 their

01:54:14.700 own

01:54:14.880 understanding

01:54:15.440 of

01:54:15.800 those

01:54:16.020 Old

01:54:16.220 Testament

01:54:16.540 texts

01:54:16.920 which

01:54:17.080 I

01:54:17.200 believe

01:54:17.440 they

01:54:17.640 received

01:54:18.180 from

01:54:18.500 Jesus

01:54:18.940 through

01:54:20.060 the

01:54:20.220 ministry

01:54:20.500 of

01:54:20.640 the

01:54:20.740 Holy

01:54:20.900 Spirit

01:54:21.260 and

01:54:21.640 things

01:54:22.120 like

01:54:22.340 that

01:54:22.560 we

01:54:23.240 saw

01:54:23.640 all

01:54:23.940 of

01:54:24.080 that

01:54:24.320 but

01:54:24.520 then

01:54:24.720 I

01:54:24.940 closed

01:54:25.560 by

01:54:25.800 stating

01:54:26.200 that

01:54:26.420 really

01:54:26.740 when

01:54:27.000 you

01:54:27.100 think

01:54:33.460 we

01:54:33.660 didn't

01:54:33.860 get

01:54:33.980 a

01:54:34.080 chance

01:54:34.280 to

01:54:34.380 get

01:54:34.480 into

01:54:34.640 this

01:54:34.800 I

01:54:34.920 wanted

01:54:35.100 to

01:54:35.200 get

01:54:35.300 into

01:54:35.440 some

01:54:35.640 of

01:54:35.720 the

01:54:35.820 hadith

01:54:36.080 I

01:54:36.240 wanted

01:54:36.420 to

01:54:36.540 talk

01:54:36.740 about

01:54:37.000 the

01:54:37.760 hadith

01:54:38.100 where

01:54:38.260 the

01:54:38.380 man

01:54:38.560 kills

01:54:38.860 99

01:54:39.180 people

01:54:39.640 and

01:54:39.760 he

01:54:39.940 kills

01:54:40.140 the

01:54:40.240 100th

01:54:40.700 person

01:54:41.020 and

01:54:41.180 yet

01:54:41.360 he's

01:54:41.880 ushered

01:54:42.220 into

01:54:42.360 paradise

01:54:42.840 because

01:54:43.080 he

01:54:43.180 was

01:54:43.300 going

01:54:43.540 to

01:54:43.680 a

01:54:43.840 city

01:54:44.040 to

01:54:44.220 find

01:54:44.420 out

01:54:44.580 about

01:54:44.780 repentance

01:54:45.180 and

01:54:45.480 we

01:54:46.120 should

01:54:46.360 have

01:54:46.500 spent

01:54:46.860 some

01:54:47.040 more

01:54:47.160 time

01:54:47.420 talking

01:54:48.020 about

01:54:48.280 how

01:54:48.460 God's

01:54:48.840 law

01:54:49.080 is

01:54:49.260 fulfilled

01:54:49.700 and

01:54:49.940 the

01:54:50.340 fact

01:54:50.540 from

01:54:50.680 the

01:54:50.780 Christian

01:54:51.080 perspective

01:54:51.680 atonement

01:54:52.300 is

01:54:52.540 necessary

01:54:53.200 so

01:54:53.900 that

01:54:54.060 his

01:54:54.260 law

01:54:54.580 is

01:54:54.940 fulfilled

01:54:55.420 so

01:54:55.660 God's

01:54:56.200 not

01:54:56.360 just

01:54:56.540 simply

01:54:56.740 saying

01:54:57.020 well

01:54:57.220 you've

01:54:57.940 killed

01:54:58.080 100

01:54:58.280 people

01:54:58.640 I'm

01:54:59.060 going

01:54:59.160 to

01:54:59.180 let

01:54:59.340 you

01:54:59.440 in

01:54:59.560 anyways

01:54:59.880 because

01:55:00.200 you're

01:55:00.540 one

01:55:00.820 cubit

01:55:01.220 closer

01:55:01.600 to

01:55:01.780 a

01:55:01.920 city

01:55:02.100 you

01:55:02.240 were

01:55:02.340 going

01:55:02.580 to

01:55:02.840 from

01:55:03.460 the

01:55:03.580 Christian

01:55:03.860 perspective

01:55:04.360 that

01:55:04.700 simply

01:55:05.200 doesn't

01:55:05.520 make

01:55:05.700 any

01:55:05.920 sense

01:55:06.280 and

01:55:06.440 then

01:55:06.600 right

01:55:07.540 in

01:55:07.660 that

01:55:07.780 same

01:55:08.100 section

01:55:08.540 in

01:55:08.700 Sahih

01:55:08.940 Muslim

01:55:09.200 and

01:55:09.380 that

01:55:09.600 hadith

01:55:10.200 actually

01:55:10.520 is

01:55:10.640 one of

01:55:10.820 the

01:55:10.860 hadith

01:55:11.060 could

01:55:11.260 see

01:55:11.460 I

01:55:11.800 wanted

01:55:11.960 to

01:55:12.080 ask

01:55:12.280 you

01:55:12.380 whether

01:55:12.560 you

01:55:12.800 gave

01:55:13.480 that

01:55:13.660 more

01:55:14.000 weight

01:55:14.300 we

01:55:14.500 can't

01:55:14.740 get

01:55:14.840 into

01:55:14.960 that

01:55:15.140 now

01:55:15.360 but

01:55:15.580 in

01:55:16.080 that

01:55:16.200 same

01:55:16.420 section

01:55:16.820 in

01:55:17.260 Sahih

01:55:17.800 Muslim

01:55:18.120 is

01:55:18.920 our

01:55:19.540 three

01:55:20.000 hadith

01:55:20.600 that

01:55:20.800 talk

01:55:21.080 about

01:55:21.280 how

01:55:21.480 on

01:55:21.580 the

01:55:21.680 day

01:55:21.800 of

01:55:21.940 judgment

01:55:22.280 there

01:55:22.480 could

01:55:22.600 be

01:55:22.700 certain

01:55:22.940 Muslims

01:55:23.280 that

01:55:23.440 have

01:55:23.540 come

01:55:23.680 to

01:55:23.820 judgment

01:55:24.140 that

01:55:24.600 have

01:55:24.720 a

01:55:24.860 pile

01:55:25.240 of

01:55:25.500 sins

01:55:26.040 and

01:55:26.880 their

01:55:27.080 sins

01:55:27.460 could

01:55:27.580 be

01:55:27.700 placed

01:55:28.000 upon

01:55:28.200 a

01:55:28.360 Jew

01:55:28.500 or

01:55:28.620 Christian

01:55:28.960 it's

01:55:29.900 in

01:55:40.640 talking

01:55:40.800 about

01:55:40.980 that

01:55:41.160 all

01:55:41.480 come

01:55:41.780 back

01:55:42.220 to

01:55:42.580 the

01:55:43.660 issue

01:55:44.180 that

01:55:44.560 is

01:55:44.740 found

01:55:45.220 in

01:55:45.620 the

01:55:45.840 thesis

01:55:46.140 statement

01:55:46.700 which

01:55:47.000 is

01:55:47.220 a

01:55:47.700 little

01:55:47.780 bit

01:55:47.940 different

01:55:48.220 than

01:55:48.520 arguing

01:55:48.900 about

01:55:49.120 James

01:55:49.380 chapter

01:55:49.680 2

01:55:49.940 I'll

01:55:50.220 argue

01:55:50.440 about

01:55:50.680 James

01:55:50.940 chapter

01:55:51.240 2

01:55:51.580 but

01:55:52.920 is

01:55:54.620 the

01:55:54.860 cross

01:55:55.240 necessary

01:55:56.080 why

01:55:56.920 is

01:55:57.240 it

01:55:57.380 necessary

01:55:58.000 from

01:55:58.740 the

01:55:58.900 Christian

01:55:59.240 perspective

01:55:59.780 it's

01:56:00.260 because

01:56:00.620 we

01:56:01.620 recognize

01:56:02.500 the

01:56:03.500 deadness

01:56:04.120 of man

01:56:04.640 in sin

01:56:05.300 and the

01:56:05.780 darkness

01:56:06.120 of his

01:56:06.520 heart

01:56:06.860 this

01:56:08.620 is

01:56:08.780 not

01:56:09.120 Paul

01:56:09.620 read

01:56:10.820 Jeremiah

01:56:11.440 spend

01:56:13.340 some

01:56:13.660 serious

01:56:14.200 time

01:56:14.680 with

01:56:14.840 the

01:56:14.980 prophet

01:56:15.260 Jeremiah

01:56:15.880 and

01:56:17.020 he

01:56:17.140 will

01:56:17.320 tell

01:56:17.540 you

01:56:17.660 you

01:56:17.840 cannot

01:56:18.180 trust

01:56:18.620 the

01:56:18.800 heart

01:56:18.960 of

01:56:19.100 man

01:56:19.340 it

01:56:20.640 is

01:56:20.800 desperately

01:56:21.400 wicked

01:56:21.780 and sick

01:56:23.980 and so

01:56:25.600 if

01:56:26.160 that

01:56:26.760 heart

01:56:27.560 cannot

01:56:28.020 be

01:56:28.420 fundamentally

01:56:29.120 changed

01:56:30.340 then

01:56:31.840 how

01:56:32.040 can

01:56:32.220 any

01:56:32.480 one

01:56:32.680 of

01:56:32.800 us

01:56:32.980 ever

01:56:33.280 do

01:56:33.880 sufficient

01:56:34.540 works

01:56:35.120 that

01:56:35.580 could

01:56:35.740 cause

01:56:36.080 us

01:56:36.260 to

01:56:36.440 stand

01:56:36.760 before

01:56:37.080 a

01:56:37.260 holy

01:56:37.480 God

01:56:37.860 I

01:56:39.240 believe

01:56:39.740 when the

01:56:40.880 scripture

01:56:41.140 says

01:56:41.600 that

01:56:41.860 nothing

01:56:42.440 unclean

01:56:43.160 will

01:56:43.720 dwell

01:56:43.980 in

01:56:44.120 his

01:56:44.280 presence

01:56:44.700 nothing

01:56:45.240 and then

01:56:47.340 I look

01:56:47.580 at

01:56:47.680 Isaiah

01:56:47.980 chapter

01:56:48.360 six

01:56:48.740 and I

01:56:49.000 see

01:56:49.240 that

01:56:49.520 that

01:56:49.980 vision

01:56:50.560 of

01:56:51.000 Yahweh

01:56:51.540 exalted

01:56:52.800 and sitting

01:56:53.340 upon his

01:56:53.840 throne

01:56:54.180 and

01:56:54.480 yeah

01:56:55.080 John

01:56:55.380 tells us

01:56:55.780 that was

01:56:56.000 Jesus

01:56:56.260 but

01:56:56.640 the

01:56:57.120 holiness

01:56:57.560 of

01:56:57.940 God

01:56:58.460 illustrated

01:56:59.640 because

01:57:00.120 the

01:57:00.360 angels

01:57:00.960 surround

01:57:01.500 the

01:57:01.740 throne

01:57:02.080 and

01:57:02.280 they

01:57:02.440 say

01:57:02.940 holy

01:57:03.460 holy

01:57:04.000 holy

01:57:04.540 nothing

01:57:06.420 unclean

01:57:06.900 there

01:57:07.080 is

01:57:07.240 no

01:57:07.380 going

01:57:07.520 to

01:57:07.560 be

01:57:07.700 grading

01:57:08.160 on

01:57:08.460 a

01:57:08.620 curve

01:57:09.220 and

01:57:11.700 so

01:57:11.820 I

01:57:11.940 have

01:57:12.120 to

01:57:12.200 ask

01:57:12.360 the

01:57:12.480 question

01:57:12.780 that

01:57:13.000 man

01:57:13.240 that

01:57:13.380 killed

01:57:13.580 a

01:57:13.700 hundred

01:57:13.860 people

01:57:14.240 how

01:57:14.780 does

01:57:15.000 he

01:57:15.200 stand

01:57:15.820 before

01:57:16.420 God

01:57:16.920 what

01:57:17.640 righteousness

01:57:18.300 does

01:57:18.700 he

01:57:18.900 have

01:57:19.540 because

01:57:20.940 not

01:57:21.700 only

01:57:21.880 has

01:57:22.100 he

01:57:22.220 broken

01:57:22.640 God's

01:57:23.100 law

01:57:23.260 he's

01:57:23.440 a

01:57:23.520 mass

01:57:23.780 murderer

01:57:24.140 but

01:57:24.520 there's

01:57:24.740 all

01:57:24.980 these

01:57:25.180 positive

01:57:25.740 things

01:57:26.080 he

01:57:26.220 never

01:57:26.460 did

01:57:26.840 he

01:57:27.320 has

01:57:27.760 no

01:57:28.000 righteousness

01:57:28.580 he

01:57:29.340 has

01:57:29.640 no

01:57:29.840 positive

01:57:30.280 righteousness

01:57:30.860 so

01:57:31.920 how

01:57:32.140 is

01:57:32.280 he

01:57:32.380 going

01:57:32.580 to

01:57:32.760 dwell

01:57:33.160 in

01:57:33.360 the

01:57:33.500 presence

01:57:33.960 of

01:57:34.460 a

01:57:34.640 holy

01:57:34.980 God

01:57:35.840 the

01:57:37.760 Christian

01:57:38.060 has

01:57:38.300 an

01:57:38.440 answer

01:57:38.760 and

01:57:40.440 I'll

01:57:40.560 be

01:57:40.660 perfectly

01:57:40.940 honest

01:57:41.200 with

01:57:41.340 you

01:57:41.440 Adnan

01:57:41.720 I've

01:57:42.140 read

01:57:42.280 the

01:57:42.420 Quran

01:57:42.580 many

01:57:42.880 times

01:57:43.340 I've

01:57:43.840 read

01:57:43.960 all

01:57:44.140 of

01:57:44.260 Sahih

01:57:44.480 Al-Bukhari

01:57:44.980 Sahih

01:57:45.800 Muslim

01:57:46.140 most

01:57:48.040 of

01:57:48.520 Ibn

01:57:48.860 Kathir

01:57:49.200 and

01:57:51.240 my

01:57:52.440 conclusion

01:57:53.040 is

01:57:53.660 that

01:57:54.780 the

01:57:55.160 writer

01:57:55.420 of

01:57:55.560 the

01:57:55.660 Quran

01:57:55.960 the

01:57:56.980 early

01:57:57.320 Muslims

01:57:57.900 did

01:57:59.080 not

01:57:59.420 have

01:58:00.000 any

01:58:00.560 idea

01:58:01.000 what

01:58:01.480 the

01:58:01.580 book

01:58:01.720 of

01:58:01.840 Hebrews

01:58:02.120 taught

01:58:02.660 they

01:58:02.880 just

01:58:03.020 didn't

01:58:03.160 know

01:58:03.320 there's

01:58:03.540 no

01:58:03.660 references

01:58:04.040 to

01:58:04.260 it

01:58:04.360 there's

01:58:04.520 no

01:58:04.620 responses

01:58:05.100 to

01:58:05.320 it

01:58:05.400 there's

01:58:05.560 no

01:58:05.660 rebuttal

01:58:06.020 of

01:58:06.140 it

01:58:06.280 they

01:58:07.100 did

01:58:07.400 not

01:58:07.640 know

01:58:08.080 the

01:58:08.340 message

01:58:09.140 of

01:58:09.700 the

01:58:09.880 imputed

01:58:10.640 righteousness

01:58:11.320 of

01:58:11.680 Jesus

01:58:11.980 Christ

01:58:12.420 or

01:58:12.580 if

01:58:12.680 they

01:58:12.800 heard

01:58:13.020 somebody

01:58:13.280 talking

01:58:13.680 about

01:58:14.020 it

01:58:14.200 they

01:58:14.760 thought

01:58:15.120 that

01:58:15.340 someone

01:58:15.540 was

01:58:15.740 saying

01:58:15.960 oh

01:58:16.160 you

01:58:16.280 don't

01:58:16.380 have

01:58:16.540 to

01:58:16.600 worry

01:58:16.700 about

01:58:16.820 what

01:58:16.960 you

01:58:17.100 do

01:58:17.260 somebody

01:58:17.520 else

01:58:17.700 does

01:58:17.860 everything

01:58:18.100 for

01:58:18.420 you

01:58:18.560 they

01:58:18.980 don't

01:58:19.280 recognize

01:58:19.840 the

01:58:20.220 nature

01:58:20.580 of the

01:58:21.000 great

01:58:21.440 exchange

01:58:22.560 now

01:58:23.660 you've

01:58:23.960 had to

01:58:24.220 learn

01:58:24.360 that

01:58:24.540 because

01:58:24.800 you're

01:58:24.980 a

01:58:25.100 modern

01:58:25.340 Muslim

01:58:25.700 and

01:58:26.480 you

01:58:26.560 have

01:58:26.700 to

01:58:26.820 interact

01:58:27.240 with

01:58:27.420 Christianity

01:58:27.960 but

01:58:29.320 in

01:58:29.440 those

01:58:29.680 early

01:58:30.120 centuries

01:58:31.080 I

01:58:31.380 see

01:58:31.620 no

01:58:31.780 evidence

01:58:32.220 that

01:58:32.400 there

01:58:32.520 was

01:58:32.640 understanding

01:58:33.160 of

01:58:33.380 these

01:58:33.580 things

01:58:34.000 it's

01:58:34.880 that

01:58:35.120 great

01:58:35.500 exchange

01:58:35.980 that

01:58:36.480 answers

01:58:36.940 the

01:58:37.140 question

01:58:37.660 my

01:58:38.980 sin

01:58:39.580 imputed

01:58:40.000 to

01:58:40.160 him

01:58:40.320 which

01:58:40.540 is

01:58:40.700 why

01:58:41.040 Jesus

01:58:41.440 says

01:58:41.820 take

01:58:42.080 this

01:58:42.300 cup

01:58:42.480 from

01:58:42.660 me

01:58:42.780 he's

01:58:43.120 not

01:58:43.240 a

01:58:43.380 coward

01:58:43.720 he's

01:58:45.700 not

01:58:45.860 afraid

01:58:46.340 of

01:58:46.540 death

01:58:47.080 he

01:58:49.900 is

01:58:50.080 going

01:58:50.260 to

01:58:50.400 be

01:58:50.540 made

01:58:50.800 sin

01:58:51.340 for

01:58:51.660 us

01:58:52.080 he

01:58:53.100 made

01:58:53.540 him

01:58:53.900 to

01:58:54.100 be

01:58:54.260 sin

01:58:54.700 for

01:58:54.980 us

01:58:55.400 who

01:58:55.740 knew

01:58:55.980 no

01:58:56.280 sin

01:58:56.600 that

01:58:57.020 we

01:58:57.320 might

01:58:57.640 be

01:58:57.820 made

01:58:58.140 the

01:58:58.380 righteousness

01:58:58.860 of

01:58:59.220 God

01:58:59.600 in

01:58:59.880 him

01:59:00.300 the

01:59:01.220 great

01:59:01.440 exchange

01:59:02.120 and

01:59:04.000 how

01:59:04.280 can

01:59:04.460 the

01:59:04.580 great

01:59:04.740 exchange

01:59:05.140 take

01:59:05.420 place

01:59:05.840 how

01:59:06.680 can

01:59:06.960 God

01:59:07.360 justly

01:59:08.000 look

01:59:08.260 at

01:59:08.400 me

01:59:08.760 knowing

01:59:10.020 my

01:59:10.360 sin

01:59:10.900 knowing

01:59:12.600 the

01:59:12.840 things

01:59:13.100 that

01:59:13.280 even

01:59:13.520 this

01:59:13.800 day

01:59:14.120 I've

01:59:14.400 left

01:59:14.680 undone

01:59:15.320 knowing

01:59:17.940 that

01:59:18.140 I

01:59:18.300 have

01:59:18.420 not

01:59:18.660 treated

01:59:18.960 people

01:59:19.320 the way

01:59:19.640 they

01:59:19.820 should

01:59:20.000 have

01:59:20.080 been

01:59:20.240 treated

01:59:20.540 knowing

01:59:21.060 that

01:59:21.260 the

01:59:21.380 greatest

01:59:21.640 commandment

01:59:22.040 is

01:59:22.120 to

01:59:22.260 love

01:59:22.440 the

01:59:22.580 Lord

01:59:22.780 your

01:59:22.940 God

01:59:23.120 with

01:59:23.260 all

01:59:23.340 your

01:59:23.440 heart

01:59:23.660 soul

01:59:23.940 mind

01:59:24.240 and

01:59:24.380 strength

01:59:24.840 and

01:59:25.660 I

01:59:25.800 stand

01:59:26.100 before

01:59:26.380 you

01:59:26.500 today

01:59:26.720 and

01:59:26.840 say

01:59:26.940 I

01:59:27.280 have

01:59:27.580 not

01:59:27.840 done

01:59:28.080 that

01:59:28.320 this

01:59:28.560 day

01:59:28.860 so

01:59:29.940 how

01:59:30.100 am

01:59:30.200 I

01:59:30.280 supposed

01:59:30.460 to

01:59:30.640 stand

01:59:30.840 before

01:59:31.100 a

01:59:31.240 holy

01:59:31.400 God

01:59:31.760 how

01:59:33.420 am

01:59:33.540 I

01:59:33.620 supposed

01:59:33.800 to

01:59:33.960 actually

01:59:34.220 pretend

01:59:34.640 that

01:59:34.820 I

01:59:34.940 have

01:59:35.100 peace

01:59:35.480 with

01:59:35.700 God

01:59:36.080 Romans

01:59:36.600 5

01:59:36.880 1

01:59:37.100 says

01:59:37.320 therefore

01:59:37.560 having

01:59:37.800 been

01:59:37.980 justified

01:59:38.300 by

01:59:38.540 faith

01:59:38.820 we

01:59:38.920 have

01:59:39.060 peace

01:59:39.300 with

01:59:39.460 God

01:59:39.680 through

01:59:39.820 our

01:59:39.920 Lord

01:59:40.060 Jesus

01:59:40.260 Christ

01:59:40.580 where

01:59:40.940 does

01:59:41.040 that

01:59:41.160 peace

01:59:41.380 come

01:59:41.620 from

01:59:41.960 it's

01:59:43.480 because

01:59:43.780 I

01:59:44.220 am

01:59:44.680 in

01:59:44.820 possession

01:59:45.240 of

01:59:45.980 a

01:59:46.120 righteousness

01:59:46.540 that

01:59:46.880 is

01:59:47.000 not

01:59:47.180 my

01:59:47.380 own

01:59:47.660 it's

01:59:49.400 a

01:59:49.500 righteousness

01:59:49.820 of

01:59:50.060 another

01:59:50.280 because

01:59:50.580 I

01:59:50.840 have

01:59:50.960 been

01:59:51.140 joined

01:59:51.640 to

01:59:52.360 Jesus

01:59:52.660 Christ

01:59:53.080 and

01:59:53.360 he

01:59:53.580 did

01:59:53.900 love

01:59:54.140 the

01:59:54.320 father

01:59:54.580 perfectly

01:59:55.080 every

01:59:55.440 day

01:59:55.760 he

01:59:57.120 has

01:59:57.340 a

01:59:57.540 positive

01:59:58.040 righteousness

01:59:58.620 that

01:59:58.960 is

01:59:59.100 imputed

01:59:59.500 to

01:59:59.720 me

01:59:59.960 and

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02:00:01.300 is

02:00:01.500 able

02:00:01.760 as

02:00:01.980 the

02:00:02.120 God

02:00:02.380 man

02:00:02.700 to

02:00:02.920 bear

02:00:03.140 not

02:00:03.380 only

02:00:03.620 my

02:00:04.000 sins

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02:00:09.360 all

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02:00:09.740 God's

02:00:10.020 elect

02:00:10.260 people

02:00:10.580 and

02:00:12.380 that's

02:00:12.700 why

02:00:13.000 the

02:00:13.600 cross

02:00:14.040 is

02:00:14.700 absolutely

02:00:15.140 necessary

02:00:15.760 and

02:00:17.780 so

02:00:17.900 what I

02:00:18.160 say

02:00:18.480 to

02:00:18.700 Adnan

02:00:19.200 what

02:00:19.440 I

02:00:19.580 say

02:00:19.960 to

02:00:20.920 all

02:00:21.240 the

02:00:21.440 Muslim

02:00:21.720 people

02:00:22.140 for

02:00:23.640 whom

02:00:23.900 God

02:00:24.240 has

02:00:24.460 given

02:00:24.700 me

02:00:24.900 a

02:00:25.180 love

02:00:25.660 so

02:00:26.280 that

02:00:26.400 I

02:00:26.540 pray

02:00:26.840 for

02:00:27.060 them

02:00:27.380 I

02:00:28.860 listen

02:00:29.300 to

02:00:29.620 them

02:00:29.960 I

02:00:30.420 hear

02:00:30.860 them

02:00:31.340 I

02:00:32.360 feel

02:00:32.560 badly

02:00:33.020 when

02:00:33.280 my

02:00:33.520 fellow

02:00:33.760 Christians

02:00:34.260 refuse

02:00:34.740 to

02:00:35.080 do

02:00:35.260 that

02:00:35.640 but

02:00:37.220 what

02:00:37.340 I

02:00:37.480 say

02:00:37.740 to

02:00:37.940 all

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02:00:38.360 them

02:00:38.540 is

02:00:38.860 this

02:00:39.720 is

02:00:40.100 the

02:00:40.280 message

02:00:40.700 of

02:00:40.940 the

02:00:41.080 gospel

02:00:41.580 that

02:00:42.680 has

02:00:42.940 been

02:00:43.260 kept

02:00:43.920 from

02:00:44.440 you

02:00:44.700 because

02:00:45.940 of

02:00:46.260 40

02:00:46.700 Arabic

02:00:47.060 words

02:00:47.620 and

02:00:48.480 in

02:00:48.940 the

02:00:49.360 Quran

02:00:49.680 in

02:00:49.980 Surah

02:00:50.240 4

02:00:50.460 157

02:00:51.300 you

02:00:52.280 don't

02:00:52.500 have

02:00:52.740 a

02:00:52.860 mediator

02:00:53.360 you

02:00:53.580 don't

02:00:53.860 have

02:00:54.260 the

02:00:54.760 God

02:00:55.080 man

02:00:55.360 who

02:00:55.520 can

02:00:55.700 stand

02:00:56.060 in

02:00:56.240 the

02:00:56.360 gap

02:00:56.780 you

02:00:57.220 don't

02:00:57.420 have

02:00:57.700 the

02:00:57.860 one

02:00:58.100 that

02:00:58.240 can

02:00:58.400 give

02:00:58.740 you

02:00:58.880 that

02:00:59.140 righteousness

02:00:59.760 you

02:01:01.680 have

02:01:01.880 a

02:01:02.040 zeal

02:01:02.400 and I

02:01:03.800 appreciate

02:01:04.200 that

02:01:04.620 I

02:01:06.100 appreciate

02:01:06.580 this

02:01:06.840 man's

02:01:07.280 zeal

02:01:07.600 I

02:01:08.120 appreciate

02:01:08.480 his

02:01:08.680 willingness

02:01:08.960 to

02:01:09.240 come

02:01:09.500 here

02:01:09.820 and

02:01:10.060 to

02:01:10.240 he's

02:01:11.280 sort

02:01:11.500 of

02:01:11.720 you

02:01:11.940 know

02:01:12.060 in

02:01:12.260 the

02:01:12.380 minority

02:01:12.780 here

02:01:13.360 you

02:01:13.520 might

02:01:13.740 say

02:01:14.020 on

02:01:14.360 many

02:01:14.640 different

02:01:14.900 levels

02:01:15.300 even

02:01:16.840 though

02:01:16.980 you

02:01:17.060 notice

02:01:17.320 a lot

02:01:17.620 of

02:01:17.700 the

02:01:17.780 Calvinists

02:01:18.140 here

02:01:18.260 have

02:01:18.400 beards

02:01:18.700 so

02:01:19.000 you

02:01:19.160 actually

02:01:19.580 can

02:01:19.760 sort

02:01:19.920 of

02:01:20.020 sneak

02:01:20.520 in

02:01:20.700 a little

02:01:20.860 bit

02:01:21.000 better

02:01:21.200 that way

02:01:21.580 but

02:01:23.060 he's

02:01:23.280 come

02:01:23.520 to

02:01:23.660 this

02:01:23.860 place

02:01:24.160 and

02:01:24.300 he

02:01:24.420 knows

02:01:24.680 he's

02:01:24.920 going

02:01:25.040 to

02:01:25.100 be

02:01:25.280 the

02:01:25.480 minority

02:01:25.840 person

02:01:26.360 I

02:01:27.600 appreciate

02:01:28.120 that

02:01:28.600 zeal

02:01:29.100 but

02:01:31.240 he

02:01:31.500 knows

02:01:32.020 in

02:01:32.260 his

02:01:32.480 heart

02:01:32.800 I

02:01:33.000 hope

02:01:33.260 he

02:01:33.400 knows

02:01:33.640 in

02:01:33.760 his

02:01:33.920 heart

02:01:34.120 that

02:01:34.300 my

02:01:34.740 greatest

02:01:35.740 desire

02:01:36.460 for

02:01:36.840 him

02:01:37.200 is

02:01:38.280 to

02:01:38.420 come

02:01:38.720 to

02:01:38.940 understand

02:01:39.460 there's

02:01:41.060 unity

02:01:41.420 in

02:01:44.900 and

02:01:45.360 what

02:01:45.620 he

02:01:45.800 did

02:01:46.000 is

02:01:46.160 enough

02:01:46.560 it's

02:01:47.900 not

02:01:48.080 just

02:01:48.260 simply

02:01:48.560 a

02:01:48.720 tipping

02:01:48.940 your

02:01:49.140 hat

02:01:49.360 toward

02:01:49.660 God

02:01:50.060 it

02:01:50.920 is

02:01:51.080 casting

02:01:51.520 yourself

02:01:51.960 completely

02:01:52.600 and

02:01:52.960 totally

02:01:53.400 upon

02:01:54.160 Jesus

02:01:54.700 Christ

02:01:55.160 and

02:01:55.400 saying

02:01:55.620 if

02:01:55.780 I'm

02:01:55.920 going

02:01:56.000 to

02:01:56.020 be

02:01:56.140 saved

02:01:56.460 it's

02:01:57.200 going

02:01:57.300 to

02:01:57.360 be

02:01:57.440 because

02:01:57.700 of

02:01:57.880 what

02:01:58.280 you've

02:01:58.720 done

02:01:58.920 for

02:01:59.140 me

02:01:59.400 and

02:02:00.360 then

02:02:00.580 recognizing

02:02:01.280 the

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02:02:02.420 that

02:02:02.620 in

02:02:02.740 the

02:02:02.820 New

02:02:02.920 Testament

02:02:03.260 is

02:02:03.560 that

02:02:03.700 God

02:02:03.960 wants

02:02:04.180 to

02:02:04.320 make

02:02:04.500 me

02:02:04.640 more

02:02:04.840 like

02:02:05.120 Christ

02:02:05.500 which

02:02:05.740 means

02:02:06.000 I'm

02:02:06.480 going

02:02:06.560 to

02:02:06.660 love

02:02:06.880 God

02:02:07.300 and

02:02:07.460 I'm

02:02:07.620 going

02:02:07.720 to

02:02:07.800 love

02:02:08.000 others

02:02:08.460 and

02:02:08.640 I'm

02:02:08.760 going

02:02:08.840 to

02:02:08.920 hate

02:02:09.100 my

02:02:09.340 sin

02:02:09.780 and

02:02:10.220 he's

02:02:10.420 going

02:02:10.520 to

02:02:10.640 bring

02:02:10.960 all

02:02:11.140 those

02:02:11.320 good

02:02:11.580 works

02:02:11.920 out

02:02:12.260 of

02:02:12.380 me

02:02:12.500 as

02:02:12.640 a

02:02:12.780 changed

02:02:13.120 person

02:02:13.600 not

02:02:14.060 to

02:02:14.260 add

02:02:14.680 to

02:02:14.800 what

02:02:14.940 Christ

02:02:15.280 has

02:02:15.460 done

02:02:15.740 but

02:02:16.100 because

02:02:16.420 that's

02:02:17.020 what

02:02:17.240 glorifies

02:02:17.960 him

02:02:18.360 that's

02:02:20.140 the

02:02:20.260 beautiful

02:02:20.520 message

02:02:21.020 and

02:02:21.220 it's

02:02:21.380 consistent

02:02:21.840 across

02:02:22.260 the

02:02:22.420 New

02:02:22.540 Testament

02:02:22.860 that's

02:02:23.860 the

02:02:23.960 message

02:02:24.200 I

02:02:24.400 have

02:02:24.620 for

02:02:24.720 the

02:02:24.820 Muslim

02:02:25.080 people

02:02:25.400 I

02:02:25.640 hope

02:02:25.900 that

02:02:26.040 in

02:02:26.200 hearing

02:02:26.480 it

02:02:26.680 in

02:02:26.880 dialogue

02:02:27.300 you

02:02:28.120 will

02:02:28.220 be

02:02:28.340 able

02:02:28.460 to

02:02:28.600 hear

02:02:28.800 it

02:02:28.920 with

02:02:29.040 clarity

02:02:29.500 that

02:02:30.280 is

02:02:30.580 truly

02:02:30.940 my

02:02:31.200 heart's

02:02:31.580 desire

02:02:31.900 thank

02:02:32.300 you

02:02:32.440 for

02:02:32.560 being

02:02:32.780 here

02:02:32.940 this

02:02:33.120 evening

02:02:33.340 thank

02:02:33.660 you

02:02:33.820 sir

02:02:34.040 God

02:02:34.600 bless

02:02:34.780 you

02:02:34.920 all

02:02:35.240 thank

02:02:36.780 you

02:02:36.920 Dr.

02:02:37.300 White

02:02:37.600 Mr.

02:02:39.500 Rashid

02:02:39.800 has

02:02:40.240 10

02:02:40.680 minutes

02:02:41.060 for

02:02:41.340 his

02:02:41.540 closing

02:02:41.920 statements

02:02:42.540 right

02:02:49.100 thank

02:02:52.260 you

02:02:52.400 James

02:02:52.720 for

02:02:53.180 that

02:02:53.540 passionate

02:02:53.940 ending

02:02:54.860 I

02:02:55.980 would

02:02:56.120 like

02:02:56.340 to

02:02:56.500 thank

02:02:56.820 all

02:02:57.720 my

02:02:58.000 hosts

02:02:58.520 who

02:02:58.880 have

02:02:59.020 done

02:02:59.220 an

02:02:59.460 amazing

02:02:59.720 job

02:03:00.100 in

02:03:00.500 receiving

02:03:01.900 me

02:03:02.140 accommodating

02:03:02.780 me

02:03:03.000 and

02:03:03.280 making

02:03:03.860 my

02:03:04.080 stay

02:03:04.280 very

02:03:04.500 comfortable

02:03:04.940 especially

02:03:05.960 Michael

02:03:07.900 O'Fallan

02:03:09.200 is that

02:03:09.860 correct

02:03:10.940 pronunciation

02:03:11.520 and his

02:03:12.620 team

02:03:12.960 Kathy

02:03:13.620 Larry

02:03:14.500 and all

02:03:15.480 the other

02:03:15.860 brothers

02:03:16.180 who have

02:03:16.520 been

02:03:16.720 working

02:03:17.500 very

02:03:17.880 very

02:03:18.100 hard

02:03:18.420 to

02:03:18.620 make

02:03:18.780 my

02:03:18.940 stay

02:03:19.120 comfortable

02:03:19.560 they

02:03:20.600 picked

02:03:20.800 me

02:03:20.940 up

02:03:21.080 from

02:03:21.200 the

02:03:21.340 airport

02:03:21.600 they

02:03:21.780 waited

02:03:22.060 for

02:03:22.260 three

02:03:22.480 hours

02:03:22.780 nearly

02:03:23.060 outside

02:03:24.080 and

02:03:25.240 then

02:03:25.420 brought

02:03:25.760 me

02:03:25.880 to

02:03:25.980 the hotel

02:03:26.420 and

02:03:26.740 made

02:03:26.940 sure

02:03:27.200 that

02:03:27.440 I

02:03:27.680 have

02:03:27.960 a

02:03:28.140 very

02:03:28.320 comfortable

02:03:28.760 stay

02:03:29.060 so I

02:03:29.380 would

02:03:29.580 from the

02:03:30.540 depth of

02:03:30.840 my heart

02:03:31.320 like to

02:03:31.980 thank

02:03:32.360 James as

02:03:33.280 well for

02:03:33.580 flying in

02:03:34.120 and taking

02:03:35.360 part in this

02:03:36.040 debate

02:03:36.320 thank you so much

02:03:37.180 everyone

02:03:37.540 thank you

02:03:38.080 with regards to

02:03:40.100 this discussion

02:03:40.720 I would like to

02:03:41.500 say that

02:03:41.880 this is

02:03:42.560 to be

02:03:43.880 cherished

02:03:44.360 it is to

02:03:45.360 be encouraged

02:03:45.980 Muslims and

02:03:47.940 Christians coming

02:03:48.520 together as

02:03:49.600 brothers and

02:03:50.760 sisters in

02:03:51.340 humanity to

02:03:52.040 discuss and

02:03:52.660 talk and

02:03:53.640 share values

02:03:54.540 that are

02:03:56.020 dear to

02:03:56.380 us

02:03:56.720 and

02:03:57.800 most

02:03:58.460 importantly

02:03:59.120 demonstrate

02:03:59.840 the beauty

02:04:00.640 of our

02:04:01.660 faiths by

02:04:02.480 talking to

02:04:03.620 each other

02:04:04.160 respectfully

02:04:04.900 and

02:04:06.260 honoring

02:04:07.020 each other

02:04:07.800 in front

02:04:09.760 of God

02:04:10.160 so that's

02:04:11.380 very important

02:04:12.040 a lot of

02:04:12.580 people don't

02:04:13.200 agree with

02:04:13.640 us

02:04:13.920 a lot of

02:04:14.700 people would

02:04:15.160 like to

02:04:15.700 spread

02:04:16.160 hatred

02:04:16.520 they would

02:04:17.320 rather

02:04:17.720 throw

02:04:18.860 accusations

02:04:20.600 and

02:04:21.400 you know

02:04:23.620 promote

02:04:24.060 mistrust

02:04:24.660 but that's

02:04:25.480 not you're

02:04:25.760 going to

02:04:26.020 find with

02:04:26.380 myself and

02:04:27.100 Dr.

02:04:27.420 James White

02:04:27.880 we have

02:04:28.860 deep respect

02:04:29.400 for each

02:04:29.780 other in

02:04:30.580 this regard

02:04:31.120 with regards

02:04:34.120 to the

02:04:34.340 topic I

02:04:34.820 think it

02:04:35.700 is very

02:04:36.060 clear to

02:04:36.480 myself

02:04:36.840 and

02:04:37.380 to

02:04:39.220 possibly

02:04:40.460 some of

02:04:40.860 you that

02:04:41.500 Paul was

02:04:43.560 the man

02:04:43.940 who was

02:04:44.220 responsible

02:04:44.720 for this

02:04:45.820 atonement

02:04:46.580 theory

02:04:48.140 he was

02:04:49.000 the one

02:04:49.260 who

02:04:49.420 forwarded

02:04:49.800 this

02:04:49.960 theory

02:04:50.240 he broke

02:04:51.240 away

02:04:51.560 from

02:04:52.000 the

02:04:52.700 Jewish

02:04:52.980 tradition

02:04:53.440 and

02:04:54.560 the

02:04:55.300 followers

02:04:55.660 of

02:04:55.880 Jesus

02:04:56.080 Christ

02:04:56.500 as

02:04:56.860 clearly

02:04:57.400 demonstrated

02:04:57.960 that he

02:04:58.380 was having

02:04:58.760 debates

02:04:59.200 with

02:05:00.260 the

02:05:01.100 disciples

02:05:01.600 of

02:05:01.900 Jesus

02:05:02.120 Christ

02:05:02.560 who

02:05:02.780 spent

02:05:03.080 a lot

02:05:03.420 of

02:05:03.580 time

02:05:03.920 with

02:05:04.720 him

02:05:04.900 and

02:05:05.160 don't

02:05:05.360 forget

02:05:05.620 that

02:05:05.900 the

02:05:06.140 gospel

02:05:06.460 of

02:05:06.720 Luke

02:05:07.160 is

02:05:08.420 thought

02:05:08.700 to

02:05:08.860 have

02:05:09.000 been

02:05:09.160 written

02:05:09.440 by

02:05:09.900 a

02:05:10.580 physician

02:05:10.900 of

02:05:11.140 Paul

02:05:11.460 a

02:05:12.040 man

02:05:12.260 who

02:05:12.360 was

02:05:12.480 a

02:05:12.600 physician

02:05:12.880 to

02:05:13.080 Paul

02:05:13.400 and

02:05:14.120 if

02:05:14.240 the

02:05:14.360 book

02:05:14.500 of

02:05:14.660 Acts

02:05:14.980 is

02:05:15.240 written

02:05:15.540 by

02:05:15.880 him

02:05:16.160 then

02:05:16.840 you

02:05:17.160 expect

02:05:17.540 him

02:05:17.700 to

02:05:17.820 be

02:05:18.000 little

02:05:18.600 biased

02:05:19.220 towards

02:05:19.800 the

02:05:20.860 man

02:05:21.080 he

02:05:21.240 knows

02:05:21.560 and

02:05:23.240 despite

02:05:23.900 that

02:05:24.440 there

02:05:25.180 are

02:05:25.580 details

02:05:27.260 in the

02:05:27.540 book

02:05:27.680 of

02:05:27.820 Acts

02:05:28.140 that

02:05:28.900 highlight

02:05:29.380 the

02:05:30.040 tension

02:05:30.520 between

02:05:30.980 Paul

02:05:31.460 and

02:05:32.020 the

02:05:32.180 disciples

02:05:32.620 of

02:05:32.840 Jesus

02:05:33.040 Christ

02:05:33.500 discussing

02:05:34.240 the

02:05:34.460 importance

02:05:34.920 of

02:05:35.140 law

02:05:35.500 to

02:05:36.220 an

02:05:36.360 extent

02:05:36.660 where

02:05:36.880 James

02:05:37.280 is

02:05:37.540 actually

02:05:37.940 insisting

02:05:38.480 that

02:05:38.680 law

02:05:39.080 must

02:05:39.880 be

02:05:40.100 followed

02:05:40.380 even

02:05:40.760 by

02:05:41.040 the

02:05:41.200 Gentiles

02:05:41.840 even

02:05:42.820 by

02:05:43.040 the

02:05:43.180 Gentiles

02:05:43.660 and

02:05:44.700 by

02:05:44.880 this

02:05:45.120 time

02:05:45.440 Jesus

02:05:45.840 has

02:05:46.980 already

02:05:47.360 been

02:05:47.580 crucified

02:05:48.060 allegedly

02:05:48.740 as

02:05:49.640 the

02:05:49.840 gospel

02:05:50.140 state

02:05:50.600 he

02:05:51.040 has

02:05:51.240 been

02:05:51.400 crucified

02:05:51.760 the

02:05:52.280 sacrifice

02:05:52.740 has

02:05:53.200 been

02:05:53.380 done

02:05:53.720 Paul

02:05:54.500 is

02:05:54.660 already

02:05:54.940 preaching

02:05:55.360 this

02:05:55.920 is

02:05:56.020 the

02:05:56.120 time

02:05:56.340 for

02:05:56.500 Paul

02:05:56.740 to

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02:12:17.680 faith equal to the weight of an atom will be taken out of hell in other words those who did

02:12:23.780 not repent and died in a state of sinful sinfulness and had faith they will eventually

02:12:30.100 be taken out of hellfire and they will have eternal life so we as muslims have an absolute

02:12:36.420 guarantee a promise so long as we die muslim so long as we do not apostatize and worship other

02:12:43.100 gods besides allah god that was worshiped by abraham moses and jesus we will have salvation

02:12:49.580 this is exactly what jesus taught this is exactly what the old testament prophet taught

02:12:54.780 prophets taught this is exactly what the new testament uh um preachers such as james taught

02:13:02.140 and even in the synoptic gospels we we find such teachings so ladies and gentlemen finally

02:13:08.000 to summarize the presentation we do not need the cross for salvation because we find plenty of

02:13:16.600 evidence in the scriptures that the cross is not the way to salvation rather believing in god and

02:13:25.420 doing good works and repenting is the way to salvation that is the way to eternal life not

02:13:32.820 the cross as taught by paul against all the prophets of the old testament and jesus christ and muhammad

02:13:39.120 thank you so much thank you so much and god bless you all thank you mr rashid okay now we're going to

02:13:46.880 go into a quick rapid fire round and my attempt is to try to have us finish up by 10 p.m and ensure

02:13:53.560 that everybody including staff can go home for the evening okay each person that i ask the question of

02:13:59.980 whether it be dr white or mr rashid what will happen is that i will ask them a question they

02:14:05.200 will have one minute to respond then their opponent will have 30 seconds for a rebuttal okay and then

02:14:13.500 we'll go to the next one the first question is for dr white dr white without the originals how do we

02:14:20.860 know that the new testament what the new testament actually says well we didn't have an opportunity to

02:14:27.820 get into the argument it was stated that all scholars have given up on finding the original

02:14:33.020 text it's simply not true uh show up on friday dr michael kruger from reform theological seminary

02:14:39.040 will be here we'll we'll be addressing issues like that um uh the reality is that even unbelieving

02:14:47.480 scholars recognize that today we're just tinkering with the text that we have an incredibly accurate

02:14:53.920 um new testament manuscript tradition and it just simply is not true that everyone has given up on

02:15:02.660 finding what the originals are the reality is that we're dealing with uh a small percentage of the text

02:15:09.240 as far as variation is concerned and we do continue to find new manuscripts uh so the the reality is we have

02:15:17.040 an embarrassment of information to be dealing with uh much more than uh in other religions shall we say

02:15:23.780 but i'm out of time thank you dr white mr sheen thank you uh dr white for that um i simply want to

02:15:30.620 ask everyone to read bruce metzger's work uh the text of the new testament it's uh reception corruption and

02:15:39.060 uh restoration uh the fact that the title is worded like that shows you that the the text of the new

02:15:47.140 testament was received it was corrupted and then there is a process of restoration which is going on

02:15:53.360 to this day okay this is a question for mr rashid uh james 2 10 says for whoever shall keep the whole

02:16:01.860 law and yet stumble in one point he is guilty of all the question is have you kept the whole law if not

02:16:10.680 how are your sins forgiven since you are guilty thank you for that question that's a very good question

02:16:17.340 i have answered that question in my um final statement that anyone who is not able to fulfill

02:16:24.240 the law completely or follow the law completely rather uh simply has the promise that uh you repent

02:16:30.720 you do your best to follow the law follow the instructions of god and his prophets and if you

02:16:35.620 slack which you will there's no doubt that there's no perfection in this world as clearly acknowledged

02:16:40.960 by god and his prophets uh including prophet muhammad in one of the reports he stated that all the

02:16:47.460 children of adam are sinners all of them not because of the original sin because they are by nature

02:16:53.500 weak they uh are tempted they sin and the best of sinners are those who repent

02:17:00.280 those who repent because repentance definitely immediately wipes away your sins this is how we

02:17:07.260 are taught this is what we believe in so anyone who uh fails to follow certain injunctions uh can

02:17:13.920 simply repent and will be forgiven thank you sir dr white however repentance is not a meritorious

02:17:20.040 thing repentance is a necessary thing but repentance does not actually provide the grounds for forgiveness

02:17:24.880 forgiveness that's why there was a sacrificial system that pointed away from itself to a greater

02:17:29.640 fulfillment and certainly it was the intention of james to point out that god does not grade on a

02:17:36.520 curve and that there needs to be a mechanism whereby the guilt of that sin is removed that mechanism is not

02:17:43.660 any longer the the blood of goats and calves and bulls that was all pointing forward to the finished work of

02:17:49.740 jesus christ on the cross question for dr white why can't god just forgive us why must he require christ's sacrifice

02:17:58.800 central point of this debate and that is that god's law in christianity represents his nature and his

02:18:07.140 being it is not just simply well i'm just going to come up with this form of law and because this sort

02:18:11.780 pleases me it represents who he is in himself his holiness is innate to his being and therefore there

02:18:20.700 is no possibility for god to simply go well i know that my law states that this is abhorrent to me

02:18:27.280 but i'm going to suspend that and forgive this person without the law being fulfilled without the

02:18:34.220 penalty of the law being fulfilled and i'm going to just simply allow this contradiction to exist in my

02:18:39.780 nature uh this is the real issue that we have here is that that hadith really introduces for me a

02:18:47.860 substantial contradiction in the very nature of god that does not exist in the old and new testaments

02:18:54.460 because of the sacrificial system and its fulfillment in jesus christ mr rashi i think the question should

02:19:01.180 be why do we need the sacrifice of a righteous innocent person why does god need to kill an innocent

02:19:08.480 person for uh to save guilty people that's injustice it's like james commits a crime and i take michael by

02:19:16.640 the hand and crucify him doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense and god doesn't need to do this uh

02:19:23.100 this uh this i mean i don't like to use this word but this drama because if jesus is god he's not

02:19:29.760 actually suffering because he's god okay mr rasheed how can god accept an imperfect man

02:19:35.180 without impinging on his justice how can god how can god accept an imperfect man without impinging on

02:19:44.980 his own justice god has created us and he knows that we are imperfect because that's the way he has

02:19:53.440 created us he knows that he has given us temptations he has told us what is good what is bad and he has

02:19:59.360 given us a free will and god knows that many if not all will be tempted by the devil and they will

02:20:07.420 commit bad deeds and for that reason they will need to repent otherwise we are all doomed we are all

02:20:14.600 doomed if there is no repentance if there's no forgiveness if there's no mercy the fact that god

02:20:19.580 is so merciful makes him even holier in my eyes he's bigger than simply taking someone innocent

02:20:27.340 and killing him on the cross instead of forgiving them simply so the old testament system was a lot

02:20:32.840 better than what paul had to tell us simply repent to god and god will forgive you it is it is as simple

02:20:40.640 as that repent and you will be forgiven dr white jesus christ freely gave himself it's not the idea you

02:20:48.740 take some innocent person and unwillingly place them upon the cross jesus christ gave his life

02:20:56.620 voluntarily upon the cross of calvary this was the agreed plan of father son and holy spirit from

02:21:03.320 eternity past and so it's not some unjust action it is a merciful action and since jesus is the god man

02:21:11.980 it is the action of god whereby he provides the solution to the problem that mankind faces

02:21:18.740 for dr white if i read first corinthians 16 9 and see within myself that i am guilty of these sins

02:21:27.280 then what hope or resolution does christianity offer first corinthians what six says 16 9 i have a feeling

02:21:37.580 it's 6 9 and 10 because i don't think there is a first corinthians 16 this is not an infallible

02:21:42.620 infallible document okay um just reading all right i'm going i'm going to assume that we're talking

02:21:47.580 about the text that came up in the discussion which is first corinthians chapter 6 verses 9 and 10

02:21:52.480 um and the the the list that is provided there of sins and then what i pointed out is paul's

02:22:01.100 statement is such were some of you but you were washed you were sanctified you were justified

02:22:08.780 in jesus in the name of jesus christ and the spirit of our god so the point is that when you are

02:22:15.420 redeemed by god when you are born again you are given a new nature you are indwelt by the holy spirit

02:22:21.880 of god and therefore it is god's work within our lives to conform us to the image of christ that

02:22:27.720 causes us to desire the things that god would have us to desire and to do the things that would glorify

02:22:33.960 him and so it is not that by doing those things i'm adding to what christ did but is that i am

02:22:40.760 acting consistently with the spirit of god that he has placed within me

02:22:44.520 right the time's still finishing okay yes uh what really perplexes me is uh the fact that if jesus

02:22:53.480 died for our sins as paul claimed then whatever sins we commit are paid for it might be a license to

02:23:02.520 to to to simply go and go on an orgy for that matter you know you can have your your beach parties

02:23:09.560 you can go and you know abuse children you can have you know you know i don't want to go into the

02:23:16.860 details grim details people are doing all kind of things in the world today so if one believes in the

02:23:21.620 sacrifice then all of this is paid for okay this is a question for for adnan rashid what saved abraham

02:23:30.020 his faith because it faltered or his obedience because it was imperfect i believe abraham was saved

02:23:37.780 simply due to his obedience to god he believed primarily first of all he had to believe and after

02:23:43.080 believing he was very diligent in following god's teachings and he was a sincere man and it was because

02:23:51.100 of his obedience to god he was saved and not only he was saved his entire progeny was promised great

02:23:59.180 things in the form of uh the israelite prophets and eventually muhammad i believe muhammad was actually

02:24:05.180 foretold in very powerful words um isaiah 53 if it's a prophecy about jesus then isaiah 42 is more so

02:24:12.700 about muhammad for telling an arabian arabian prophet uh who will come with all these qualities foretold

02:24:19.020 in that particular passage so if isaiah 53 is foretelling jesus then there's no problem in

02:24:24.540 accepting isaiah 42 as a prophecy for muhammad so i think abraham was the cause of all this that

02:24:31.660 happened in his progeny abraham was saved by his faith in the promise that was given to him in genesis

02:24:41.900 chapter 15 of the covenant that god provided to him it wasn't there was no merit in his goodness he

02:24:49.580 wasn't uh the the most holy man and therefore he was chosen because he was the most holy man god was

02:24:54.940 free in choosing him but his the basis of his salvation the same basis of all the rest of us faith

02:25:00.860 in the fulfillment of the promises that yahweh provided to him in the covenant last two questions

02:25:06.860 for dr white as a muslim how can i be saved that's the question okay um if the question is

02:25:16.700 if you're asking as a muslim how can you be saved believe on the lord jesus christ and you will be

02:25:23.900 saved not a jesus who is a mere prophet not a jesus um who is just one prophet amongst many prophets

02:25:32.940 but the jesus of the new testament the lord jesus christ who himself said he came down from heaven

02:25:42.620 belief and faith in him is trusting in him completely casting all of your sin upon him

02:25:50.220 and trusting that his sacrifice the fact that he gave his life and rose again on the third day

02:25:56.780 that is seated at the right hand of the father that he is able to save completely those who flee

02:26:03.100 unto him for salvation but editing him down to someone you're a little bit more comfortable with

02:26:10.780 uh jesus said that was not a possibility mr rashid that's my turn to respond yes um yeah but you have

02:26:18.380 to answer the exact question i i don't think jesus was simply a mere prophet and um i don't think he ever

02:26:26.780 died for our sins uh i don't think that's true and i don't think he was god in any shape or form

02:26:33.500 uh he if he was god then he didn't do a good job telling us that he was god he had plenty of

02:26:39.900 opportunities he had time to to to curse the pharisees he had time to curse the tree he had time

02:26:47.340 to talk to people about things he didn't have time to just state one sentence i'm god worship me so

02:26:54.460 salvation is through following uh the law jesus followed okay last question for mr rashid in your

02:27:02.620 presentation you said that mark and matthew copy from luke i believe you use the word plagiarism

02:27:08.700 would you please provide uh evidence for this all scholars of the new testament when i say all i am

02:27:17.340 very confident that all scholars believe because there are passages in luke and matthew that have

02:27:23.340 been copied word by word from mark uh james will confirm that i hope he will and when it's time to

02:27:30.300 speak there are passages in matthew and luke copied word by word from mark and of course luke and matthew

02:27:39.980 added more information and then comes along john with a lot more information a lot more interpretation

02:27:45.340 that's why scholars believe that john has this high christology he came with came up with a lot of

02:27:51.980 ideas that cannot be found in the synoptic tradition even conservative scholars uh like ff bruce and

02:27:58.780 richard bolkham have clearly stated that the gospel of john is a lot more interpretive and a lot more

02:28:05.500 extensive uh in uh in you know extending on details than the synoptic tradition so there's plenty of evidence

02:28:14.380 that these gospels took ideas and words from each other especially mark dr white the second okay

02:28:24.460 uh the assumption being made of course is what's called literary dependence uh i do not believe in

02:28:30.620 literary dependence um i'm not sure why muslims push this so hard because there's all sorts of things in

02:28:36.140 the quran where there are repetitions of stories that differ from one another that raises questions as to

02:28:41.500 why one author would be doing that but the reality is you have the tradition of jesus and it is recorded

02:28:47.020 for us by mark by matthew by luke and by john much later on it's one consistent tradition and the

02:28:53.580 consistencies come from the fact they're teaching one one truth ladies and gentlemen would you please

02:28:59.420 let's thank these two gentlemen for their time and for this great debate this evening

Ali Dawah - January 25, 2018

DO WE NEED THE CROSS FOR SALVATION？ - Adnan Rashid vs James White

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