IF MY DAUGHTER DID THAT ILL DISOWN HER - SPEAKERS CORNER
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Jummah Kutbahaykum: What is the connection between the Father and the Word of God? Is there a connection between creation and God's word? What does the Bible say about God and the Qur'an?
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The following, we admire God more via his creation.
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So this is where we differ because the reason why Islam is so harsh against idol worship or any kind of worship is that it's saying, look, God has created all of this.
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Why are you? Can you imagine your child comes and says, thank you, Ali, for looking after me?
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Look, look, that's what you just said is profound.
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The kalam of Allah, the speech of Allah is uncreated.
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Okay, so when Allah says Isa alayhi wa ta'ala is the kalam of Allah, is the word of Allah, we're talking about kun faya kun, what God Almighty will.
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Because Adam al-Saleen, Adam alayhi wa salaam, he for example...
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He made him out of a clock, he didn't just be him.
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No, no, no, but the point is this, Allah can make things out of pre-existing materials, or he can make it out of nothing, because that's his ability.
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So when he says his word, you're confusing it with his speech.
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I'll tell you what I'm confusing it with, that's what I'm worried about.
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I'm confusing it with the Bible that calls in the capital W, Word.
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Yeah, but don't confuse the word there and here.
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I'm not going to confuse it, because some of the things that were in the Bible he initially went with, and then obviously as he gained power, he sort of said...
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Well, the thing is, the word in the Bible and the word in the Qur'an are two separate things, we're forced to equivocation...
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No, no, no, no, no, of course, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course, Jesus, that's why we have a whole chapter on his mum,
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and he's mentioned in the Qur'an, because otherwise, the Qur'an could have rejected him.
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Qur'an could just easily say, you know what, Jesus has got nothing to do with us, but we have to affirm him,
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because we believe he was a true man set down with a true message.
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And that's why even in the Bible, Jesus claims again and again, I myself can do nothing, as I see, I judge.
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So when somebody says that there's a connection, when anyone says the Father, there is another party involved.
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So when we're talking about, so if there's any party involved, that shows that the person is limited.
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So what we're saying is, well, God in his nature can't, we believe God has attributes, the most powerful,
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the all-knowing, the most merciful, the most wise.
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We studied this in the books of Aqidah, that for example, God is merciful within his nature.
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He does not need to be merciful when there's creation.
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So as a mother, you've always had that mercy, even if your child was not existing.
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But what I'm saying is, none of it, I'm talking about motherly love, yeah?
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That's something unique that God has given females.
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Because you had that in you, but you didn't have time to explore it with the children being born.
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So are you saying that when your child was born, you got the attribute of mercy?
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No, I had mercy, but I never had motherly love before I was a mother.
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Okay, so what I'm saying is, okay, so what we're saying is, God Almighty always had the attribute of mercy and love
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God, no, no, but you know, what you're doing is you're using your human attributes to understand God.
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You exist, God exists, but the existence is different.
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So what we're trying to say is, if God is alone, he's not going to be, oh, I'm so bored and lonely.
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No, no, no, no, but we're not talking about me praying five times a day.
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Worship is, for example, when I'm eating food, I say, Bismillah, I remember him.
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When I give him charity, it's a form of worship.
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When I'm good to my wife, it's a form of worship.
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So Allah created human beings out of, not a need as in his, I accept that you're not
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self-sufficient and all of that, and yet, my God at least, in his infinite wisdom, even
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though he knows all of time, he still made us, knowing Hitler was going to come along,
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knowing the genocide and the pedophilia there and everything, he knew it, and still he loved
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us enough while we were still sinners to do all the Christian stuff.
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So therefore, I'm wondering why, if he's not lonely, he doesn't need people, then why
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did he make them, knowing that he's going to misguide some of them and guide some?
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You know, Allah says in the Quran, the angels are asking the same question.
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The angels said to him, why are you creating people that are going to cause havoc on the
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And he said, and this is why, for example, the angels do as they're told, yeah?
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So here, some people have a misconception that the angels don't ask questions.
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And that's the reason why, for example, a jinn.
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God Almighty created man to make his own decisions by himself.
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So if you act on your desires, you become like animals.
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If you, for example, do good stuff with your own will, you become better than the angels.
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Because the angels do as they're told, you do it out of your own will.
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Okay, so for example, out of his mercy, because if he's the most merciful, he wants to...
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Why is he being merciful to say that it's surely more merciful to say, none of this is...
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I'm going to misguide someone, not guide someone.
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For example, the reason why he didn't, is because I didn't think he's God Almighty.
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The purpose of human beings is to worship God constantly.
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But God didn't create, God didn't create us and be like, okay, you know what?
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From the get-go, your child, when he starts getting his faculties,
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There's going to be an instant understanding of gratitude, yeah?
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Now, you didn't create them to be grateful to you.
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You created them maybe a bit of love or whatever it may be, yeah?
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But the default position of that child is to be grateful to the mother and the father
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I'm not saying he did it for gratitude, I'm not.
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The moment he desires, it's God, it's self-sufficient.
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In Christianity, God desires that people be saved, that they love him and he can love them without the sin in the way.
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He desires it, he doesn't need it, but he wants it.
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He has personality, he has will, he says, don't do that.
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But don't you think the Christians are blaspheming when God Almighty is saying, worship me, and you're taking Jesus and saying, no, God, we're going to worship.
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So this is where we differ because the reason why Islam is so harsh against idol worship or any kind of worship is that it's saying, look, God has created all of this.
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Can you imagine your child comes and says, thank you, Ali, for looking after me.
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Look, look, that's what you just said is profound.
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Maybe not disowned, but I'm sure you didn't mean that, yeah?
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I'll do what you've said about the age of girls being...
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I wouldn't want to even come and learn a lot to do that.
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That was a one-hour discussion that got cut out and it's very clear my position.
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And I've even explained the whole six-year-old thing to today.
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But what I'm trying to say is, you said you would disown your child.
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Because you've looked after them all this time.
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So the reason that Ali gives is that Christianity is a form of idolatry or blasphemy, actually,
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Obviously, he can't see the triunity of Yahweh.
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He can't see that Jesus is present in every single book of the Old Testament as well as
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So in the beginning, when God says, let there be light, that's his word.
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And the word was not only with God, but the word was God.
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And when we see the Holy Spirit references God, we see a triunity.
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He's prophesied in Isaiah 700 years before he comes along.
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Every single book of the Bible, literally, the Torah, everything, I can show you Jesus in there.
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So Yahweh alone, in the Old Testament, searches the hearts and minds of men.
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His name will be, you know, everlasting father, meaning they will call him God.
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He's the eternal son from the beginning of time who is made flesh.
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And therefore, we are not worshipping him as separate to Yahweh.
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We are worshipping him as the second person of Yahweh, of the Godhead.
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It says in the New Testament that the Father was pleased to have him embody the fullness of the Godhead.
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He empties himself because obviously God can't be killed.
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So he makes himself lesser in order so that he can be tempted by Satan.
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He makes himself lowly so that he can identify with us and understand us in a way that really and truly the Father and the Spirit can't.
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I just want to wrap up because I need to go as well.
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The reason why I'm saying it is because I found that statement profound.
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The thing I found amazing is the moment I said if your child, for example, if it said...
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No, it's a natural reaction in the context where...
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Because you claim that I said I'll marry my daughter at six years old.
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So the thing is, is that I've got a co-classification on my channel.
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But you have a right as a mother that if somebody...
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If I heard somebody say that out of context, I myself would be worried, yeah?
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But look at what's beautiful in this conversation, yeah?
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But what I'm saying is look at the conversation, yeah?
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Is that the moment I said that, you said you would disown her out of care, out of care.
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My child thanking someone else and I'm upset with her.
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Imagine God creating the heavens and the earth.
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And this is the reason why if you die on this, you end up in hellfire as long as the message of Islam didn't reach you, yeah?
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If you go and thank something else, let's not Jesus, let's say Muhammad.
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We're not going to a stone or a prophet or anybody.
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We're going to God and we're using earthly manifestations.
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Okay, but as Muslims, our point is that he is not God and you're making him God.
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Why does the angel come and make Maryam pregnant?
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Just the same reason, why did Adam credit with no mother and no father?
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Like, even John the Baptist, the Holy Spirit was involved...
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My point is, in the Quran, why is that story there if it's not to point to him being...
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It's not something that God desires so much that he makes a miracle to get him there.
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Because sin passes through the father, from father to child to child to child.
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And therefore, the curse of Adam can't come on because he's the seed of David.
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But he's also the seed of the woman from Genesis with a serpent, Satan, who's going to defeat him.
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And that's the prophecy right from the beginning when Jesus is in the tomb.
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And that's why women, when they give birth, they carry some kind of burden, as the Bible says.
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So what I'm saying is, again, we don't have that concept.
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No, I'm saying it makes sense in the Bible, but not in the Quran.
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And everything he's done, imagine he made the most amazing miracles more than any prophet.
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Because the thing is, just because someone does profound miracles...
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When I look at my watch, I bought this recently for fitness, yeah?
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But I really admire it because it helps me be more active when I know I'm reaching my goals.
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No, I haven't, but what I'm looking at is, I admire what he's done in the works, yeah?
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When we look at Jesus and the actions he's done, we should praise God more.
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No, praise Jesus because there's a misunderstanding happening.
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I believe he's God because the Father called him.
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Let me just finish because I need to, I need to go, yeah?
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When I look at the sky, I'm like, God is great.
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When I look at you and me, like, sorry, for example, females, sometimes I, I look at my wife
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I'm like, look how God has, how, no, no, no, no, no.
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But the thing is, the way God has created them from birth to, for example, suckling,
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I pray, I say, Alhamdulillah, God, because the creation is so amazing.
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And I'm going to, you can finish the last sentence.
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It's all right, my point is that, in the context of the Bible, it absolutely makes sense,
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the virgin birth to happen, because we see the seed of the woman is prophesied in Genesis,
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the very first of the Bible, fight against the serpent.