Ali Dawah - April 19, 2021


IF QURAN IS RIGHT THEN QURAN IS FALSE - REACTING TO PASTOR


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11 minutes

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5

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A missionary on stage says that Islam is the final revelation to mankind. What does the Quran have to say about this? Is it true or not? What does it say about Christianity and Judaism? Is the Bible the final Revelation to mankind?

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00:00:00.000 Guys, before the video starts, I'm trying to raise 300,000 meals for 1,000 families in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Bangladesh, brothers and sisters, inshallah.
00:00:07.220 Help us feed them this Ramadan to open and break their fast. 0.99
00:00:10.100 And he's probably a Muslim who's trying to say that Islam is the final revelation to mankind. 0.99
00:00:16.700 Whether you obey the Bible or not, the Quran must be false. 1.00
00:00:20.700 Because if the Bible's true, the Quran is false. 1.00
00:00:22.820 If the Bible's false, the Quran is telling you to obey a false document. 0.89
00:00:26.020 But at no point in the Quranic discourse does Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala say, or in any hadith does the Prophet say, that the Bible is what is referred to here.
00:00:36.540 Okay.
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00:00:51.540 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
00:00:52.940 Brothers and sisters and dear friends, hope you guys are well inshallah.
00:00:54.820 We've got another reaction video that was sent to me on Instagram.
00:00:58.460 If you guys have any reaction videos you would like me and Hijab or Zishan to do, send them on my Instagram.
00:01:02.920 That's where I usually look.
00:01:04.180 This one's quite interesting because this is a missionary on stage.
00:01:06.840 And they use this a lot.
00:01:07.840 And I don't think they really understand it.
00:01:09.800 So he's showing the Quranic dilemma.
00:01:13.180 Let's watch for ourselves inshallah.
00:01:14.220 And I think the questioner is a Muslim.
00:01:15.980 You ready?
00:01:18.000 This is Mohammed Hijab, by the way.
00:01:19.860 Salam to the people.
00:01:20.540 Do you think they don't know who I am or they know who you are?
00:01:23.100 I know this is your channel, but man.
00:01:24.280 I need introduction.
00:01:24.960 They know who I am.
00:01:26.000 They know who I am.
00:01:27.380 They know who you are.
00:01:28.460 Islam is basically a complete version of Christianity and Judaism. 1.00
00:01:35.060 He said the Quran contains both Judaism and Christianity.
00:01:40.500 How would you respond to that?
00:01:41.540 He said that Islam and Judaism are what now?
00:01:48.020 Say that again. 0.71
00:01:48.780 Get a little closer to the mic if you could.
00:01:51.260 Islam is the complete version of Christianity and Judaism. 0.99
00:01:57.420 More like a Quran contains both in one book.
00:02:00.800 I would first ask, what do you mean by that?
00:02:04.660 And then how did you come to that conclusion?
00:02:07.380 Just those two questions.
00:02:08.760 Because again, he has to support.
00:02:10.240 First of all, he has to clarify and then support what he says.
00:02:13.540 And he's probably a Muslim who's trying to say that Islam is the final revelation to mankind. 0.99
00:02:22.080 And I would ask him for evidence of that.
00:02:25.160 Why do you think Islam is the final revelation to mankind?
00:02:28.200 In fact, you could even use the Quran to point out that it's not.
00:02:32.040 Because in the Quran, chapter 5, verse 68, and in other places, Surah 5, verse 68 is a chapter.
00:02:40.880 It says, O ye people of the book.
00:02:42.960 Who are the people of the book?
00:02:43.960 Christians and the Jews. 0.97
00:02:45.080 You have no ground to stand on unless you stand on the law and the gospels.
00:02:48.280 In other words, the Quran tells Christians and Jews to obey the Old Testament and the New Testament, the law and the gospels. 0.86
00:02:55.800 Now, if we go back to the Old Testament and the New Testament, it leaves no room for the Quran. 0.99
00:03:04.460 So the Quran is saying, obey the Bible.
00:03:08.120 But the Bible says, nope, no more revelation.
00:03:11.440 It's done.
00:03:12.960 So if the Quran is saying, obey the Bible, then the Quran is false.
00:03:20.860 Or Islam is false, I should say. 1.00
00:03:23.660 Right? 0.68
00:03:23.860 If the Quran is telling Christians and Jews to obey the Bible, and as Muslims will say, it's been corrupted, the Quran is also false. 0.98
00:03:36.180 In other words, it's called the Quranic Dilemma. 1.00
00:03:39.700 Whether you obey the Bible or not, the Quran must be false. 1.00
00:03:43.660 Because if the Bible is true, the Quran is false. 1.00
00:03:45.820 If the Bible is false, the Quran is telling you to obey a false document. 0.91
00:03:49.020 These are the books of the New Testament, where you have, you know, up until the book of Revelation.
00:03:53.660 And by the way, some other books were going to be added, but then they decided, who is this guy to tell us, would you respect Athanasius?
00:03:59.700 Who is he to tell us what should be the word of God?
00:04:03.660 And how could it be that for all this time, the patristic fathers and the ecumenical writers for 300 years, they didn't know what the entire Bible was?
00:04:12.900 They were debating it.
00:04:13.560 So you want us to believe.
00:04:16.080 So the important question is, who are they to say that's the Bible?
00:04:18.720 And who are you to tell us that the Injil that Allah is talking about is the Bible that you're talking about?
00:04:22.860 Of course.
00:04:23.340 Look, the word Bible is, like I said, it's understood as the Old Testament and New Testament.
00:04:27.500 Nowhere in the Quran is that word mentioned.
00:04:29.500 What the Quran is talking about is the original Torah and the Injil.
00:04:33.140 So there's a flaw in his premise.
00:04:34.700 So when he says the Bible, when Allah talks about, like the people of the book, okay, we know who they're talking about, that's clear. 0.86
00:04:40.280 But when Allah talks about Injil and Torah, his premise is false because he's not talking about the Bible that you have in your hand.
00:04:44.740 We believe in the doctrine of Tahrif, if you want to put it that way, right? 0.98
00:04:47.560 It's a doctrine which says that the books that the Christians and Jews have now has been muharraf, has been corrupted and changed.
00:04:53.720 Yes.
00:04:53.940 There are too many verses in the Quran to even start beginning, to name them.
00:05:06.900 So woe to those who write the book with their own hands and say, this is from God, so that they can get with it a miserly prize.
00:05:17.540 Or in the other verse, it says,
00:05:21.200 They distort the words out of it.
00:05:22.880 And what do those who change it with?
00:05:24.740 There's so many.
00:05:25.820 But let's not even go there.
00:05:27.880 The Quran, in the same chapter that he's talking about, it says that the Quran is muhaymin wa muhayminun alayhi.
00:05:36.960 It's a muhaymin on the Torah and the Injil. 0.94
00:05:41.060 Meaning, it's a guardian.
00:05:42.900 Now actually one of God's names is a muhaymin. 0.65
00:05:44.720 He's a guardian, right?
00:05:45.420 Which means that he checks to see which of the things in the scriptures that we have now, passed down from the previous dispensations, which of those things are acceptable and which are not.
00:05:57.140 That's why we don't say everything in the Bible is false.
00:05:59.240 Anything which matches what we believe in, we believe in.
00:06:01.280 And if something doesn't match, and it goes again, if it contradicts it, then we know it's false.
00:06:05.920 Because the Quran says X and the Bible says Y, so we know that thing is false.
00:06:09.800 If it neither confirms nor rejects, the Prophet actually told us what to do.
00:06:14.100 He says,
00:06:14.360 لا تصدقوهم ولا تكذبوهم.
00:06:15.960 Don't belie them.
00:06:17.920 Do not say that they're telling the truth.
00:06:19.980 And do not belie them.
00:06:20.920 In other words, have an agnostic attitude towards those things which the Quran has not mentioned.
00:06:25.480 So we have a full template on how to deal with those books that have made it from the previous dispensations into the canons that we have today.
00:06:35.100 But at no point in the Quranic discourse does Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala say, or in any hadith does the Prophet say,
00:06:42.020 that the Bible is what is referred to in the Bible.
00:06:45.680 Okay, so it's very clear that when it's talking about, Allah talks about the Injil, it's not talking about the Quran Bible that you have.
00:06:52.140 So that's the first fallacy.
00:06:53.360 Okay, number two, when Allah refers to them.
00:06:55.440 So for example, we know a group of Jews who came to the Prophet, peace be upon him.
00:06:58.740 And Allah mentions in the Quran where Allah told them to refer back to their book.
00:07:02.800 Don't you have the Torah?
00:07:04.260 Now, this is a specific instance where they came because in their books.
00:07:08.200 And this is very important because what Allah is trying to signify here, and we know from the hadith of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
00:07:13.780 is this very instance was about an adulterous man or a woman.
00:07:17.500 And obviously, they came to the Prophet for judgment.
00:07:20.020 And they would not come to the Prophet usually because they don't believe him to be a Prophet.
00:07:22.860 But because they were trying to sway out of the capital punishment that is in their books, they came to the Prophet.
00:07:28.620 So the Prophet ï·º said, why don't you go to your book?
00:07:31.800 Now, he's using this as one of those things to support and be like, well, hold on a second.
00:07:36.100 Your Prophet is saying Torah, he mentioned Torah. 0.83
00:07:38.280 Allah says Torah as well.
00:07:39.460 But the reason why Allah is saying that in the Quran, and we have a hadith of the Prophet, peace be upon him,
00:07:44.920 explaining the situation is because the Prophet, peace be upon him, is saying, go to your books.
00:07:49.520 In your books, it's very clear what it says.
00:07:50.840 Basically, in a nutshell, why are you trying to avoid the ruling that you have in your scripture?
00:07:55.940 So that doesn't mean that, for example, it affirms, for example, the whole thing.
00:08:02.340 It's telling you in a specific instance, stop being, you know, clever, trying to be clever about it and dodge God's commandments.
00:08:08.440 Go to your book.
00:08:09.020 What does it say in your book?
00:08:09.940 Go and apply that.
00:08:11.840 And another thing that he mentioned in there, what was the verse he said in Surah Maida verse?
00:08:16.200 Yeah, this verse,
00:08:17.360 You're not upon anything except if you uphold the Torah.
00:08:26.800 We believe in the Torah.
00:08:28.480 We believe in the Torah and we believe in the Injil. 0.99
00:08:30.940 So why won't they say that they had the Torah at the Prophet's time? 0.58
00:08:34.080 If Allah is telling them to go to the book, how could you say he's corrupted when Allah is telling them to go back to the book?
00:08:40.420 No, because remember Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, he says,
00:08:43.020 if you look at, we just look from chapter 5 and verse 40 to verse 70, just read that in your own time.
00:08:48.500 You will see it's very clear what is being said here, right?
00:08:51.300 That you have these previous books that have been sent,
00:08:54.380 but that the Quran is the guardian over those books.
00:08:59.060 And that we believe in, as part of the faith of Muslims,
00:09:02.600 we believe that Jesus was originally given an Injil, 0.75
00:09:05.240 that Moses was originally given a Torah.
00:09:06.680 So we do believe that you have to believe in those books and that you have to uphold those books.
00:09:11.440 But do we have those books now?
00:09:12.680 Now we don't have those books.
00:09:13.880 They've been muharraf. 1.00
00:09:15.400 Not just by the Islamic contention of that,
00:09:20.040 but by almost practically, look at Bruce Metzger's works,
00:09:22.820 look at anybody who's done anything on biblical,
00:09:25.580 sorry, on, what do you call it, criticism, text criticism.
00:09:30.840 Text criticism is an entire field, right?
00:09:33.420 And the assumption of it is that the Old Testament and the New Testament,
00:09:37.800 both of them are not by one author.
00:09:39.800 Like you have something called documentary hypothesis,
00:09:41.760 which is that all these different authors came back
00:09:43.960 and they kind of made a documentary style book.
00:09:46.600 So in an actual, brothers and sisters,
00:09:47.800 you can see that this premise is flawed in the beginning.
00:09:49.940 And also, for example, it's actually, I believe it's a Quranic prophecy
00:09:53.500 that we, I think we miss a lot of the times in the Dawah as well,
00:09:56.720 is that Allah is saying that the scriptures are corrupted
00:09:59.340 and the Christians themselves are coming and saying,
00:10:02.260 our scriptures are corrupted.
00:10:03.440 That's actually a prophecy if you think about it,
00:10:05.140 because that affirms the Quranic.
00:10:06.880 It's unseen knowledge.
00:10:07.780 Yeah, it's unseen knowledge.
00:10:08.580 Not only that, because if the Bible wasn't corrupted,
00:10:10.500 what is Allah talking about? 0.56
00:10:11.900 The people of the day, I mean, at the time of the Prophet and before that, 0.94
00:10:14.760 they didn't have this notion of a corrupted Bible.
00:10:17.580 Now, because of text criticism, this notion is widespread.
00:10:21.400 So what was in the Quran 1,400 years ago,
00:10:25.180 the Christians and Jews didn't appreciate as much 0.98
00:10:27.680 as they are forced to appreciate it now,
00:10:29.440 because of text criticism.
00:10:30.780 And maybe they weren't aware of it.
00:10:31.880 They know about it.
00:10:32.660 So in a nutshell, Abraham says,
00:10:33.760 there's no contradiction when Allah tells us 0.93
00:10:35.720 that those people of the book have corrupted their scripture,
00:10:38.360 and that in specific instances,
00:10:39.880 Allah is telling them to refer back to their book 1.00
00:10:41.760 out of to show their hypocrisy, 0.92
00:10:43.640 that not only do you corrupt your book,
00:10:45.520 but you don't even want to abide by the law
00:10:48.220 that you have in there,
00:10:49.460 because it goes against your standards.
00:10:51.320 The punishment of the Old Testament is very clear. 0.98
00:10:53.660 Stoning to death. 0.85
00:10:54.700 It's as simple as that for adultery. 0.84
00:10:56.100 But you don't want to apply that,
00:10:57.200 which shows that the Jews 0.67
00:10:59.660 and the Christians at that time specifically,
00:11:01.960 this is what they were doing,
00:11:02.740 and that's all Allah is showing.
00:11:03.660 So I think we've debunked that claim,
00:11:05.780 and I hope you guys enjoyed this video.
00:11:07.400 And if you have any other questions,
00:11:08.620 do share this with your Christian friends.
00:11:10.160 As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.