Ali Dawah - December 26, 2023
MUSLIM CONFR0NTS PRO ZION!STS GROUP
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Summary
In this podcast, I talk about why I don't think Israel is killing innocent Palestinian children and why I think they are killing themselves. I talk to a pro-Zionist Israeli man who is a father of 3 daughters and tells me why he doesn't think that Palestinian children are innocent civilians.
Transcript
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I go, do you condemn Israel for killing innocent Palestinian kids?
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Because you can see how his attitude is and his actual beliefs from the Torah and Talmud
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compared to nationalist Zionists who he was just talking to.
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And she was clearly saying, oh, I don't believe Palestinian kids are innocent civilians.
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Brothers and sisters, just imagine for a second that you give £10 in donation
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and that £10 is used to buy food or bricks or whatever to help the people in Gaza.
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But then just imagine this amazing day that you want to do, but we turn it into a money making machine.
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They take your money and the money that we are going to put in this Waqf, this building,
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and every single time the money generated from that Waqf, that building is going to go to our
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Palestinian brothers and sisters for the next 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 100, 150 years.
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And this will be a form of true Sadaqah Jariyah.
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I myself will be donating for that, inshaAllah.
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Click the link below and donate. May Allah bless and preserve you guys.
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Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, look at what he's saying.
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How old are your kids, if you don't mind me asking?
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If I saw anyone going close to your kids to harm them.
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Well, I don't, I wouldn't approve violence of any kind.
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Number one, how as a father, your daughters are here.
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I've got a two year old and I've got a five month old.
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If I, if I, if I, because if I was a Palestinian living in Palestine, my kids would be massacred.
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Stop, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause.
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Are you calling to the eradication and the end of the state of Israel?
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Because they kill innocent people, he thinks I'm asking for the same.
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I am against, I am against a state, not individual.
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Did I ever say to you, did I ever say to you, I want innocent people harmed?
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Because, because your government kills innocent people, you think I'm doing the same.
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I would never ever ask for any Jewish or Zionist, or any Muslim or non-Muslim for that matter,
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And by the way, there are the Jewish people in Israel who want Netanyahu out of power.
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So, do they want a genocide against themselves?
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Why do you not condemn the killing of people who are killing children at your daughter's age?
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Because I do not believe, I genuinely do not believe, I think it is fake news that Israel
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is indiscriminately bombing innocent civilians.
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I think Israel does everything it can, everything in its power to avoid and to limit the damage
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For example, for example, for example, they drop leaflets, flyers everywhere.
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They phone call people and speak to them in Arabic.
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They announce in advance, we believe there is a Hamas tunnel or Hamas cell in your building.
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Please, can you go and remove all the people in your building?
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And then they're on the phone with these people and they say, is everyone gone?
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Which other army in the world, British, American, which other army in the world announces,
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hey, by the way, we're coming in an hour or two or three.
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Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go with the analogy, yeah?
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If they, if they have, listen, brother, so if this is them being, look, look, guys,
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No, no, let me get, let me get, let me get this right.
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Anyways, anyways, anyways, anyways, now, now, if, if, indirectly, there you go.
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Now, guys, if, if, if, if the most humane army in the world.
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The hospital where Hamas of 500 people were killed.
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A spokesman, a spokesman, a spokesman for Israel.
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He made a tweet and he said, we, we attacked a Shifaal hospital.
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He deleted this tweet and we haven't heard from him ever since.
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Now, if you're telling me, if you're telling me Israel, the most human army in the world,
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has called them and gave leaflets out, can you imagine the amount of civilians who
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If 27,000 people have been killed, check this out, check this out, check this out, yeah?
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If 27,000 people have been killed and with them telling them, check this out, it's like
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me saying to you, I'm taking over your house, just to let you know, I'm going to bomb you.
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Can you imagine me as a Muslim, I go, I go to my friend, what's your name?
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Listen, can you leave with you and the kids and family?
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No, you missed out on my own part of the football.
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I'm about to blow your house up, there are terrorists underneath the building.
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There are terrorists in your house, in your building, I'm going to blow it up, yeah?
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I'm about to blow your family up, can you leave?
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I have condemned, I condemn, I condemn Hamas, Israel, America, anyone that kills civilians.
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I condemn anybody who indiscriminately kills innocent civilians.
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Hamas, for the first start, I don't believe Israel is indiscriminately.
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You, you know what, you've got two, you've got two daughters here.
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Because you do not condemn the state terror that's being carried out by Israel against
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Because I do not accept that they are committing terrorism.
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I do not condemn Israel because I do not accept that there is a terrorist.
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You guys went into Israel and killed innocent people.
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I condemn Israel with the right facts and knowing exactly.
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Do you believe, do you accept that Israel killed innocent Palestinian children?
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That's the thing is I don't think they're innocent.
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Firstly, firstly, firstly, thank you for your honesty.
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I go, do you condemn Israel for killing innocent Palestinian kids?
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I think that they're being put in a position that they're...
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Let me just say, if I didn't have any shame, I swear to God, you...
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I hope any child in your family is never harmed.
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The context is that Hamas is not putting them in hospitals or places that Israel is advancing
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Do you believe it is correct what they are doing?
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Is there a difference between Zionism and Judaism?
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Like, what's your stance on Israel now as a state?
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The occupation of the West Bank or generally Israel?
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Like, just have a land to a home, a home for the Jews.
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But, religiously, is that according to the Torah and the Talmud?
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And also, the Messiah will not come until that state is abolished.
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So then, would I be correct to say, as a true Jew, you would want that state to not exist so the Messiah comes, religiously?
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Because I'm just trying to get the dynamics and understand it.
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If the Jews lived together with the Palestinians and the Christians...
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So, for example, if the Jews lived in the Palestinian lands, which they did...
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If it's not on homeland, let's say it's Palestine.
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But the Jews live with the Palestinians, no problem at all.
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According to Judaism, would you not say that them living in the Palestinians...
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Because, number one, they want the Messiah to come.
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Because the Zionists do not believe in Messiah.
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The real Jews, like yourself, would have no problem living with the Palestinians, because
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They are not persecuted because they've lived there for a very long time.
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Because the Palestinians never persecuted the Jews.
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So, I think for a real Jew, if I'm not mistaken, it works for you guys to live in Palestine
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Live together in peace as they did for centuries.
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Number one, you stick into the Torah and the Talmud.
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Number three, that will allow you to wait for the Messiah to come because there's no government.
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Israel, the Zionist nationals have started this date.
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So, there won't be a sad temple if it continues like this.
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But do you condemn what Israel is doing by killing innocent men, women and children?
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Because I was speaking to another Jewish person and he was refusing to condemn Israel.
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And some of them were saying, the Palestinians are there to blame.
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And look at what the Zionists are spoke to about.
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So, when people come and talk about antisemitism, I mean, I'll be honest with you.
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Some people call it as taqiyya, whatever it's called.
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My religion doesn't have a problem with you as an individual.
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Has there been instances where Muslims have persecuted the Jews?
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And the point is very interesting because how could it be antisemitism when my religion,
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And doesn't it say in your book that God Almighty also punished the Jews for breaking
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Like for example, when they went against God's covenant.
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Does that mean that you're antisemitic against yourself?
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God punished those who didn't go against their commandment.
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So this antisemitism nonsense is clear because you can see how his attitude is and his actual
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beliefs from the Torah and Talmud compared to nationalist Zionists who he was just talking
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And she was clearly saying, oh, I don't believe Palestinian kids are innocent civilians.
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I can't see even if you go to contable with these crimes.
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But you can see people just saying, oh, Ionde and Talmud come to somebody and look at
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You can see, don't let him leave a war on an island just saying that man God exists,
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And I don't believe that he actually planted about thisoo on an island.
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And if you want to be a titter, you know, to start changing things first on health,
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And I know disconnect that you're important, which we'll receive