Ali Dawah - August 03, 2020


MUSLIMS LED ME TO LEAVE ISLAM - JASMINE STORY


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

212.19987

Word Count

2,616

Sentence Count

164

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

In this episode, we have a special guest who shares his story about his doubts about Islam and how he overcame them. He shares how he became a believer in Islam and why he decided to leave the Christian and Shia communities.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I give Salaam to my people in Bangladesh, Salaam to the people of Marrakech.
00:00:09.520 Okay, Asalaamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh, brothers and sisters and dear friends.
00:00:12.460 So we had a sister, I forgot your name, sister, what's your name?
00:00:16.940 Sister Jasmine, yeah?
00:00:17.860 Okay, Sister Jasmine came to the park, if I'm not mistaken, last year,
00:00:20.920 and we had a discussion about a doubt that you had.
00:00:23.360 So, she wanted to share a story that at one moment, I think,
00:00:28.020 you was doubting Islam, yeah?
00:00:30.180 So we just want to know, for example, because as the brothers in the Dawah,
00:00:34.160 we really want to know, for example, as youngsters, what you're going through,
00:00:37.500 what's causing you to have doubts, what's led to it, yeah?
00:00:40.860 So, inshaAllah, and Sister Jasmine, tell us a bit about your journey to Islam.
00:00:45.800 When did you start kind of practicing, or start practicing?
00:00:48.980 Just tell us a bit about it.
00:00:50.740 So, growing up, I didn't have as much knowledge.
00:00:56.460 I was more grown up on culture, basically.
00:00:59.380 Culture?
00:00:59.840 Yeah, more basically grown up on culture more.
00:01:02.440 So, I started looking at YouTube videos, yours, to be honest.
00:01:07.100 I started looking at yours, and then I started getting into it,
00:01:10.300 and then I decided to take Shahada again,
00:01:12.780 because I realized I wasn't taking it seriously, so I thought it was me.
00:01:15.600 It was around, like, it was kind of after me and you had that talk, kind of.
00:01:21.680 So, it was after me and you had that talk.
00:01:23.520 So, after me and you had that talk.
00:01:24.600 So, when you talked to me, you had doubts about Islam?
00:01:26.460 Yeah.
00:01:27.940 So, that happened, and then I started actually doing the research,
00:01:31.200 rather than be ignorant, because what I used to do here,
00:01:33.040 I used to look at the Christians, I used to think,
00:01:34.320 oh, you know what, they have a little bit of a point and stuff like that,
00:01:37.420 but then I realized it makes no logical sense, so I came to that conclusion.
00:01:41.120 So, I had a lot of doubts.
00:01:42.980 I used to see, like, obviously no names, but, like,
00:01:45.540 people backbiting here and there in the park,
00:01:48.080 and it made me think, okay, so, if backbiting is not allowed,
00:01:50.880 why are you able to do it yourself?
00:01:52.260 So, you saw an inner conflict within the park?
00:01:53.920 Yeah, and it made me think, so, if this is what Islam is about,
00:01:57.140 because the thing is, the Christians,
00:01:58.760 the reason why they don't confront each other is because
00:02:00.440 they all just don't care about the book.
00:02:03.840 The book is already, like, gone.
00:02:05.020 It's already written by so many people, they don't care.
00:02:07.240 But with us, we took it seriously, so.
00:02:09.780 When I saw the conflict, it made me want to leave Islam,
00:02:11.960 because it made me think, if this is what it's about, I don't want to be a part.
00:02:13.780 And the conflict you're talking about, are you talking about Muslims
00:02:16.580 sometimes fighting each other, or you're talking about
00:02:19.260 individuals who come to this park, like myself, Mohammed, Mohammed.
00:02:22.700 You know what, you know what, both, both.
00:02:24.840 Both, so both, yeah.
00:02:26.260 Because when I see both Muslims confronting each other,
00:02:29.380 whether, even if they're Shia or Sunni,
00:02:31.260 it's one thing to debate, but it's another thing to fight.
00:02:33.400 Like, you know, there was this one video,
00:02:34.960 I know it's been happening years ago.
00:02:36.820 What's his name? I don't want to say names.
00:02:39.240 The Shia got chased by so many Sunni boys.
00:02:41.900 When I saw that, it made me want to leave Islam,
00:02:43.540 because, like, how could you get chased because you're a different sect?
00:02:46.060 I know, okay, look.
00:02:47.460 I know some things might not be the best, like, views or whatnot,
00:02:51.220 but it's not good to do that, is what I'm trying to say.
00:02:54.940 When I saw that, it just made me think, don't want to be a part of it.
00:02:58.340 So, other stuff, for example, you mentioned something specific, yeah?
00:03:02.900 So, you said there were certain things that led to that.
00:03:05.420 So, you've seen Muslims fighting each other, etc.
00:03:07.520 And you mentioned a specific person, which I'm not going to name,
00:03:11.000 that you said his backbiting was something that, yeah?
00:03:15.880 Yeah, and we'll talk about this.
00:03:17.540 And remember, I gave you the example about Brother Isa,
00:03:19.980 may Allah have mercy on him, who died, yeah?
00:03:21.500 Who passed away.
00:03:22.660 And this is the very same brother that I was so, so enraged and angry about,
00:03:27.300 because Brother Isa, he was somebody who came to the park,
00:03:31.440 and he was someone who was a, I would say, the finest example.
00:03:35.100 You know Brother Isa?
00:03:36.180 Yeah.
00:03:36.980 Yeah.
00:03:37.400 His smile, his character, his behavior, his akhlaq, his adab,
00:03:41.400 in this park was unmatched.
00:03:43.320 And this park is not the same without him.
00:03:45.280 I'll be very honest with you.
00:03:46.080 It's not the same without him.
00:03:47.780 And, subhanAllah, this brother that you was talking about as well,
00:03:51.580 to backbite him, somebody who has passed away,
00:03:54.040 that really annoyed me, that really hurt me, yeah?
00:03:56.640 So, sometimes, like, I don't want that conflict to happen.
00:03:59.280 I'll be honest with you.
00:03:59.820 These conflicts, I don't want to happen.
00:04:01.460 That's why I never, ever, I avoided,
00:04:04.320 that brother had problems with us for a long time, yeah?
00:04:06.280 And I tried to avoid it.
00:04:07.240 You know why?
00:04:07.840 Because I don't want youngsters to be watching that
00:04:09.840 and be like, oh, look at these guys fighting each other.
00:04:11.280 because Yaqeen Institute in America
00:04:13.540 done a study, done a research,
00:04:15.160 and they found out that
00:04:15.940 one of the main reasons why a lot of Muslims leave Islam
00:04:18.960 is because inter-conflict, inner-conflict.
00:04:21.580 And that is a fine example.
00:04:22.680 When you came to me today and said,
00:04:24.100 Brother Ali, you know what?
00:04:25.880 So, those are the things I saw in the park
00:04:27.100 and you mentioned this brother,
00:04:28.300 which I said, don't mention his name.
00:04:30.420 That's sad because, let alone you as a Muslim,
00:04:33.740 Brother Isa's family,
00:04:34.720 they got in contact with me
00:04:36.440 and they were so angry.
00:04:38.300 Like, you didn't have nothing good to say
00:04:40.420 about Brother Isa.
00:04:41.440 Someone like Isa.
00:04:42.140 Look, if it was me,
00:04:43.140 I would say, you know what?
00:04:43.640 Sometimes I'm controversial.
00:04:44.800 Sometimes I do things that upset people.
00:04:46.500 But to come and pick on Brother Isa,
00:04:48.800 sorry about him,
00:04:49.780 people, someone like Brother Isa
00:04:51.440 and somebody who's just passed away,
00:04:53.540 for you to come and,
00:04:55.600 you know, make him look like he's someone bad,
00:04:57.960 oh, Allah mustang,
00:04:58.940 don't watch his video, etc.
00:05:00.740 How did you feel when you,
00:05:01.760 did you see that video, by the way?
00:05:02.680 How did you feel when you saw someone,
00:05:05.600 a believer, a Muslim,
00:05:07.840 justifying, backbiting a believer?
00:05:11.200 From the videos I saw,
00:05:13.140 I never saw a single thing he said that was wrong.
00:05:14.980 I never, my honest,
00:05:16.000 he didn't do it yourself.
00:05:16.880 Yeah, I never,
00:05:17.560 I didn't see anything wrong.
00:05:18.820 Like, if he,
00:05:20.020 if he was like a fight or something in the park,
00:05:22.100 I'd understand,
00:05:22.800 but he didn't do anything.
00:05:24.400 Like, obviously,
00:05:25.300 he had a sweet personality.
00:05:26.280 That's what I saw personally.
00:05:27.160 I feel like you have every right to feel,
00:05:29.320 the way you felt,
00:05:30.020 because I wouldn't say he was upset.
00:05:32.000 I would say he was upset,
00:05:33.160 because the thing is,
00:05:34.600 the thing is,
00:05:36.180 I'm thinking,
00:05:36.760 what did the guy do?
00:05:38.320 And we found out later,
00:05:40.060 which is,
00:05:40.400 Wallahi,
00:05:40.700 so profound,
00:05:41.860 Dawood had a interview with him,
00:05:43.980 before,
00:05:46.020 yeah,
00:05:46.780 and we found,
00:05:47.620 and subhanAllah,
00:05:48.000 it's as if he was speaking from the dead.
00:05:49.580 Wallahi,
00:05:49.900 it's as if,
00:05:50.560 this interview came out later.
00:05:51.900 It was recorded a long time ago,
00:05:53.440 but once he passed away,
00:05:54.720 Dawood told me about it.
00:05:55.600 May Allah bless him, yeah.
00:05:56.320 Dawood told me.
00:05:57.480 And in that video,
00:05:58.320 he left this group.
00:06:00.800 Yeah,
00:06:00.980 this group who comes here,
00:06:02.340 and everyone's in the park,
00:06:03.620 yeah,
00:06:04.180 Brother Mansour,
00:06:05.160 Brother Hashim,
00:06:06.000 Mohammed Hijab,
00:06:06.920 Adnan Rashid,
00:06:07.700 all of us in the park,
00:06:09.000 we go and eat together.
00:06:10.060 We talk together.
00:06:11.420 We move together,
00:06:12.460 and even if we say,
00:06:13.440 we're not going to talk to somebody,
00:06:14.460 we don't talk to that person together.
00:06:15.960 The only person that doesn't come and join us,
00:06:18.300 is this group,
00:06:18.880 in the park.
00:06:20.060 You'll even see them,
00:06:21.000 moving around in groups,
00:06:22.380 yeah.
00:06:23.320 And we're thinking,
00:06:23.980 subhanAllah,
00:06:24.280 Allah says in the Quran,
00:06:25.140 to be merciful to the Muslims.
00:06:27.580 And towards each other,
00:06:28.380 be merciful.
00:06:29.320 You move merciful towards the non-Muslims,
00:06:31.020 not going to be merciful.
00:06:31.360 Thank you.
00:06:31.900 Why?
00:06:32.520 But that's the thing is,
00:06:33.340 why?
00:06:33.680 Now let me tell you something,
00:06:34.320 sister, yeah?
00:06:34.920 Some people are going to come and say,
00:06:35.860 oh, you're planted.
00:06:37.580 Did I tell you to come here?
00:06:39.060 Did I tell you to come and approach me?
00:06:40.780 I approached you.
00:06:41.840 Okay,
00:06:42.060 taken off by Allah,
00:06:43.060 if this is,
00:06:43.740 because I know,
00:06:44.220 let me tell you something,
00:06:44.560 people are going to think,
00:06:45.400 that I probably staged this.
00:06:47.180 I swear upon Allah,
00:06:49.020 may Allah deal with me,
00:06:50.200 if I ask you to come.
00:06:50.960 Did I ask you to come?
00:06:52.360 Tell us what happened.
00:06:53.900 So I approached Ali,
00:06:55.360 wallahi I approached Ali,
00:06:56.420 because I mentioned,
00:06:57.660 I came here for the same reason,
00:06:59.060 that I just wanted to see what was going on,
00:07:00.460 but I saw a lot of things,
00:07:02.680 so I just wanted to ask Ali about it.
00:07:04.100 and I just told him that,
00:07:06.200 I felt really upset that,
00:07:07.340 there was a lot of conflict from this,
00:07:09.560 I'm not trying to be rude,
00:07:10.500 this couple of people,
00:07:11.860 so I wanted to adjust it,
00:07:13.240 and see why,
00:07:14.640 why?
00:07:15.180 Because I wanted to know,
00:07:16.460 whether it's from your sect,
00:07:17.320 or is it from your sect,
00:07:17.940 I don't even know the sects,
00:07:18.760 that you guys are on about,
00:07:20.240 so I just wanted to see which one it was.
00:07:21.500 Exactly,
00:07:22.120 exactly,
00:07:22.800 and that's why,
00:07:23.440 so the people who are watching this,
00:07:25.140 brothers and sisters,
00:07:26.280 wallahi sometimes,
00:07:27.440 when there's conflict with other Muslims,
00:07:28.940 we avoid it.
00:07:30.180 We try our best,
00:07:31.000 because you know why?
00:07:31.840 We know our youngsters who are watching this,
00:07:33.860 like this sister,
00:07:35.120 she was on the verge of leaving Islam,
00:07:37.100 yeah,
00:07:37.420 she was on the verge,
00:07:38.440 or she may have done that.
00:07:40.140 Why?
00:07:40.900 Because unnecessary conflict.
00:07:44.000 Oh, you don't take from my teacher.
00:07:45.800 Yeah, Aki,
00:07:46.120 what is wrong with you?
00:07:47.220 Who is his teacher?
00:07:48.400 Who is his teacher?
00:07:49.800 Someone,
00:07:50.560 yeah,
00:07:50.860 the point is this,
00:07:52.360 the issue is this,
00:07:54.160 that arrogance,
00:07:55.520 arrogance,
00:07:56.080 because shaitan's fall,
00:07:57.520 everybody talks about this,
00:07:58.480 yeah,
00:07:59.020 do you know shaitan was a worshipper of Allah?
00:08:01.540 He was,
00:08:02.300 and then he'd serve.
00:08:03.100 You know he was a very righteous.
00:08:04.640 So much so,
00:08:05.160 Allah says in the Quran,
00:08:05.980 when we ask the angels to prostrate,
00:08:07.720 all of them prostrate,
00:08:08.980 except Iblis.
00:08:09.600 Iblis is not an angel.
00:08:10.900 He was at the ranks of the angels.
00:08:13.460 Arrogance,
00:08:13.940 arrogance,
00:08:14.560 arrogance.
00:08:15.000 The way when we move,
00:08:15.880 if I move around,
00:08:16.700 like I'm an arrogant person,
00:08:18.380 self-righteous,
00:08:19.680 oh,
00:08:19.880 Aki,
00:08:20.140 this guy's misguided,
00:08:21.020 he's misguided,
00:08:21.620 he's misguided,
00:08:21.940 oh,
00:08:22.100 mashallah,
00:08:22.460 Allah made Jannah just for you.
00:08:24.040 Wow,
00:08:24.500 bravo.
00:08:25.140 So Allah made the whole Jannah
00:08:26.520 for you and your buddies
00:08:27.840 and your homies.
00:08:29.120 And the reason why I'm so angry
00:08:30.640 for the sake of Allah
00:08:31.560 is because we see,
00:08:32.980 you're the one,
00:08:33.460 you came with your own mouth here
00:08:34.560 off camera
00:08:35.180 and said,
00:08:36.160 certain Muslims caused me
00:08:37.500 to nearly leave Islam
00:08:38.480 or I left Islam.
00:08:40.020 And that's a burden upon us
00:08:41.780 when we fight with each other
00:08:43.620 for silly,
00:08:44.500 petty stuff.
00:08:45.520 Oh,
00:08:45.620 bravo,
00:08:45.820 you're not for my clique.
00:08:46.520 But ban you and your clique.
00:08:48.260 Ban you and your clique.
00:08:49.540 Who gives a damn about your clique?
00:08:50.940 Just because,
00:08:51.540 oh,
00:08:51.720 we're Salafi,
00:08:52.400 we're this,
00:08:52.780 we're that.
00:08:53.500 So many youth,
00:08:54.460 and this is evidence,
00:08:55.420 brothers and sisters,
00:08:56.200 Yaqeen Institute carried out a study
00:08:58.080 that shows Muslim youth
00:08:59.680 leave Islam
00:09:00.680 just like this sister.
00:09:01.840 Why?
00:09:02.400 Because inter-conflict.
00:09:04.260 Unnecessary conflict.
00:09:05.840 So we ask people
00:09:07.160 who are watching there,
00:09:07.940 inshaAllah,
00:09:08.680 and you're a Muslim now.
00:09:10.440 May Allah bless you,
00:09:10.980 sister.
00:09:11.180 Eid Mubarak,
00:09:11.780 inshaAllah,
00:09:12.220 I hope your Eid is going well.
00:09:13.320 We ask Allah to keep you firm,
00:09:14.980 yeah,
00:09:15.380 and wallahi,
00:09:16.120 this attitude of arrogance.
00:09:17.980 And one thing that as Muslims we do
00:09:19.400 is we look at someone's
00:09:20.540 outer appearance.
00:09:21.700 Oh,
00:09:21.900 I wear the hijab,
00:09:22.920 niqab,
00:09:23.360 look at his beard and foam.
00:09:24.700 Yaqeen,
00:09:25.000 okay,
00:09:25.340 good,
00:09:25.600 that's good,
00:09:25.960 don't get it twisted.
00:09:26.900 How many people
00:09:28.340 would look at this sister,
00:09:30.040 oh,
00:09:30.200 she doesn't wear a hijab,
00:09:31.440 oh,
00:09:31.760 Astaghfirullah.
00:09:32.700 Yaqeen,
00:09:33.700 yes,
00:09:34.100 the hijab,
00:09:34.620 you know,
00:09:34.920 it's fired on you,
00:09:35.460 yeah,
00:09:35.980 and you're working on it.
00:09:37.280 But to come and demonize her,
00:09:39.380 oh,
00:09:39.560 she's like this.
00:09:40.120 Yaqeen,
00:09:40.280 I'm so sorry.
00:09:41.180 I've seen a lot of hijabis
00:09:42.580 that do a lot of wrong stuff.
00:09:44.240 And I've seen a lot of sisters
00:09:45.280 who don't wear the hijab
00:09:46.000 but praise Salah.
00:09:47.120 The point is this,
00:09:48.840 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:09:49.680 says in the Quran
00:09:50.240 in Surah Baqarah,
00:09:50.900 Wallahi,
00:09:51.220 I love these verses.
00:09:52.560 Allah says,
00:09:53.960 when you slaughter an animal,
00:09:55.440 yeah,
00:09:55.800 we're in this Eid,
00:09:56.900 yeah,
00:09:57.560 when you slaughter an animal,
00:09:58.700 it's not the blood
00:09:59.400 or the flesh that reaches Allah,
00:10:00.820 but it is the taqwa.
00:10:02.380 So what's Allah trying to tell you?
00:10:03.520 Allah is telling you,
00:10:04.580 when you sacrifice an animal,
00:10:06.020 it is not the blood
00:10:07.420 nor the flesh
00:10:08.440 that reaches Allah.
00:10:09.520 It is the taqwa.
00:10:10.920 Allah says in the Quran
00:10:11.860 that He has given us garments,
00:10:13.700 clothing,
00:10:14.360 to hide our shame.
00:10:15.860 Allah says,
00:10:16.600 the taqwa,
00:10:17.440 the clothing of taqwa
00:10:18.800 is more beloved.
00:10:20.740 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:10:21.560 says in the Quran,
00:10:23.020 facing east or west
00:10:25.020 is not righteousness,
00:10:25.980 Baba.
00:10:26.900 Don't think,
00:10:27.480 oh,
00:10:27.640 I'll face the Kaaba.
00:10:28.860 So righteous.
00:10:30.160 Allah is saying,
00:10:31.000 facing the east or the west
00:10:32.620 is not righteousness.
00:10:34.420 And lastly,
00:10:35.280 I'll finish off this,
00:10:36.160 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:10:36.920 says,
00:10:37.640 when the Munafikun
00:10:38.440 were building a masjid,
00:10:40.340 yeah,
00:10:40.560 Masjid Diral,
00:10:41.460 when they were building
00:10:42.280 a masjid
00:10:42.940 to plot against the Muslims,
00:10:45.020 Allah says,
00:10:45.500 it is more deserving
00:10:46.660 that you worship
00:10:47.940 in the masjid of taqwa.
00:10:49.440 From the clothes
00:10:50.260 that you wear
00:10:50.780 to the animal
00:10:51.360 that you sacrifice,
00:10:52.260 to the direction
00:10:52.920 that you face
00:10:53.620 to the masjid
00:10:54.600 that you're in.
00:10:55.380 Taqwa,
00:10:55.800 taqwa,
00:10:56.200 taqwa,
00:10:56.580 taqwa.
00:10:57.020 But what do we do?
00:10:58.220 Oh,
00:10:58.420 that person,
00:10:59.020 he's got a beard.
00:10:59.700 He must be so righteous.
00:11:01.300 He's done a video
00:11:02.060 with 100 books behind him.
00:11:03.700 Allahu Akbar.
00:11:05.120 Subhanallah.
00:11:06.220 Brothers and sisters,
00:11:07.300 let's look at
00:11:07.880 the inner dynamics
00:11:08.700 of someone
00:11:09.200 and let's not judge people
00:11:10.760 and avoid these
00:11:12.060 petty conflicts
00:11:14.080 that cause
00:11:14.900 our youngsters,
00:11:15.700 our youth,
00:11:16.120 our sisters,
00:11:16.780 our brothers
00:11:17.340 to leave Islam.
00:11:19.060 Is there any last words
00:11:19.860 you would like to say?
00:11:20.460 Sorry,
00:11:20.740 I went on a bail.
00:11:21.200 I'm really passionate.
00:11:22.180 Is there anything
00:11:22.520 you would like to say?
00:11:23.080 I don't really have
00:11:25.140 anything to say.
00:11:25.920 Okay.
00:11:26.500 May Allah bless you,
00:11:27.100 sister,
00:11:27.340 inshallah.
00:11:27.640 If you have any doubts,
00:11:28.880 if there's anything
00:11:29.440 that you want to ask,
00:11:30.400 we're here as your brothers.
00:11:31.700 We're here,
00:11:32.080 inshallah,
00:11:32.380 to help you,
00:11:33.380 inshallah,
00:11:34.220 to make sure
00:11:34.860 we're not here to judge.
00:11:35.920 Wallahi,
00:11:36.200 I never,
00:11:36.620 I don't think
00:11:37.120 I'm better than you.
00:11:38.060 Wallahi,
00:11:38.280 you might be better than me
00:11:39.240 in Allah's eyes
00:11:39.880 100 times.
00:11:41.000 We ask Allah
00:11:41.540 subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:11:42.120 to make you firm,
00:11:43.280 inshallah.
00:11:44.080 And yeah,
00:11:44.900 may Allah bless you
00:11:45.380 for your time.
00:11:45.900 Assalamualaikum
00:11:46.420 wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
00:11:47.440 Thank you.
00:11:48.180 Brothers and sisters,
00:11:49.260 assalam corner,
00:11:50.240 our aim here
00:11:50.920 is to dialogue.
00:11:52.000 We're here to dialogue
00:11:52.620 with our youngsters.
00:11:53.960 We're not here
00:11:54.380 to judge people.
00:11:55.420 We want people
00:11:55.820 to come and open up to us,
00:11:56.980 talk to us.
00:11:57.740 Let's have a heart to heart,
00:11:59.040 inshallah.
00:11:59.700 And we invite anybody
00:12:00.900 around the world,
00:12:01.860 you come to Speakers Corner,
00:12:03.120 come visit us.
00:12:04.260 Inshallah,
00:12:04.620 assalam corner,
00:12:05.680 assalamualaikum
00:12:06.380 wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
00:12:09.440 Thank you,
00:12:09.960 sister.
00:12:10.240 May Allah bless you.
00:12:10.920 If you need anything,
00:12:11.860 we're here.
00:12:12.700 Thank you.
00:12:17.760 Yes,
00:12:19.160 we're going to 100.