Ali Dawah - September 07, 2017


MUSLIMS REACT TO GROOMING GANGS - DEBUNKED


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

193.75746

Word Count

5,351

Sentence Count

5

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

73


Summary

As Muslims, what does Islam say about grooming young girls? What does it mean and what does it teach us about this vile and cowardly act? Is there a link between Islam and grooming? Is it a crime against Islam? And what does the Quran say about it?


Transcript

00:00:00.280 Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
00:00:01.880 Brothers and sisters and dear friends, hope you guys are doing well
00:00:03.700 If there's non-Muslims tuning in to this, which I'm sure
00:00:06.020 they will be, it's great that
00:00:08.160 you've come to my channel, inshallah, because our
00:00:09.940 whole point today is
00:00:12.200 obviously you guys know from the title, there's
00:00:13.940 grooming gang issue, yeah? And as Muslims
00:00:15.860 we would love for you guys to hear where we're
00:00:17.900 coming from, and we would just really appreciate
00:00:19.960 if for a moment, we know the news
00:00:22.220 everyone, Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, we just
00:00:24.060 want you to, today, zone out
00:00:26.120 meaning, put that thinking to
00:00:27.980 aside, and hear us out
00:00:29.940 what does Islam really teach, and
00:00:32.080 as Muslims, what is our say
00:00:34.120 on this matter of grooming, young
00:00:36.140 girls, whoever it may be, whoever
00:00:38.140 it's done by, how do you feel?
00:00:39.960 Automatically as a human being, yeah
00:00:42.040 not talking about religion, or
00:00:44.260 race, or caste, or creed
00:00:45.380 immediately when you hear stuff like this, it
00:00:48.060 sickens you, to the core
00:00:49.460 it's a vile and cowardly act
00:00:52.000 to be preying on
00:00:54.060 disenfranchised and vulnerable
00:00:55.880 children, women
00:00:58.040 or anyone, yes, who's
00:01:00.000 who's been a victim to this, that's the
00:01:02.220 first and foremost, and that's what we want to make
00:01:04.240 clear as well from the beginning, this video
00:01:06.420 is by no means in any
00:01:08.520 fraction of
00:01:10.240 the matter that we are defending
00:01:12.280 it, yeah? This act has
00:01:14.280 absolutely no defence whatsoever, and
00:01:16.500 any human being that has
00:01:18.420 you know, any emotion or
00:01:20.320 justice in their heart, will see something
00:01:22.200 like this, and they will automatically be
00:01:24.340 disgusted to the core, exactly, if there's one
00:01:26.380 thing we're defending, we're just trying to defend Islam
00:01:28.300 from this vile behaviour, exactly, that is
00:01:30.180 only one thing, so when we, Islam is free from
00:01:32.360 this, so when we come with statistics and stuff like that
00:01:34.180 the only thing we're defending here, is we're
00:01:36.300 freeing Islam from these individuals, that's
00:01:38.300 the only thing, and when you said that, it reminded me of
00:01:40.300 the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, when a man came
00:01:42.180 and said, I want to commit sexual intercourse with
00:01:44.160 this, yeah? And the Prophet sat him down, and this
00:01:46.220 is, imagine, this is sexual intercourse, meaning
00:01:48.260 two people are consenting, let alone
00:01:51.880 not consenting and taking them
00:01:54.320 and exploiting them, yeah? The Prophet Muhammad
00:01:56.300 peace be upon him said, would you want that for your mum?
00:01:58.420 He said, no I wouldn't, would you want that for your daughter?
00:02:00.420 No, no, no, no, for your sister?
00:02:02.200 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said, you wouldn't want
00:02:04.260 that for your own, yeah? Then why
00:02:06.440 would you do that? And this is two people
00:02:08.020 consenting, so let alone
00:02:10.340 somebody going and saying, you know what, I'm gonna
00:02:12.200 what, how would the Prophet act? And a kid
00:02:14.220 as well, because this is an issue
00:02:16.360 and it is happening
00:02:18.320 in certain communities, it's very
00:02:20.320 important that if you are a Muslim
00:02:22.100 or you're embroiled or you're around
00:02:24.340 this, there's a few things to understand, yeah?
00:02:26.440 Because one issue that people did say
00:02:28.220 was, certain communities want to
00:02:30.280 keep such issues hidden, yeah?
00:02:32.120 We can't go away from this fact, and it's very
00:02:34.300 important, Islamically, you shouldn't keep
00:02:36.240 it hidden, yeah? In fact, there's a very good verse
00:02:38.320 that comes to mind, chapter
00:02:39.560 chapter 4, verse 1, 3, 5
00:02:41.800 O you who believe, be
00:02:44.500 upholders of justice
00:02:45.860 witnesses for Allah, even if
00:02:48.400 it goes against yourselves
00:02:49.940 your parents or your family
00:02:52.060 so if you are a parent and your child is
00:02:54.460 embroiled in some
00:02:56.060 madness, it is your duty
00:02:58.260 to make sure they are brought to justice
00:03:00.360 yeah? You don't take them to the
00:03:02.240 side and say, no, don't worry, we'll just cover
00:03:04.160 it up or what not, this has to be brought
00:03:06.220 out, and just because someone
00:03:08.240 is white, black or brown or
00:03:10.200 whatever, Islam is the only
00:03:12.300 religion that overtly
00:03:14.080 clearly, in text
00:03:15.680 refutes racism, clearly
00:03:18.180 yeah? Clearly
00:03:19.360 so these perpetrators that are targeting
00:03:22.180 whites or whatever
00:03:23.980 this is against the Islamic
00:03:25.940 principle. There's no connection, there is no way
00:03:28.100 you can make a connection with Islam in this. It's antithetical
00:03:29.940 let's, we're going to watch a video which we're going to react to
00:03:32.120 hopefully, let's watch that and then
00:03:34.080 we're going to come to the statistics, etc, etc
00:03:35.980 that they're simply hard to believe
00:03:38.480 but this one is true
00:03:40.200 as many as one million
00:03:42.300 white English children may have
00:03:44.240 been the victims of Muslim rape
00:03:45.980 gangs, better known as grooming
00:03:48.180 gangs, in towns
00:03:50.120 up and down Great Britain
00:03:51.760 policy analyst George Igler
00:03:54.020 I mean when you encounter an issue that is
00:03:56.020 just so unbelievable
00:03:58.020 just so outside your frame of reference
00:04:00.020 and understanding the immediate human reaction
00:04:02.020 is just not want
00:04:04.020 to believe it at all. Perhaps even
00:04:06.020 harder to believe is that while there have been
00:04:08.020 prosecutions, British
00:04:10.020 authorities have still not stopped
00:04:12.020 this criminal activity
00:04:14.020 there's a particular problem involving
00:04:16.020 Pakistani heritage men
00:04:18.020 who target young vulnerable white
00:04:20.020 English girls, not my
00:04:22.020 words, but a member of parliament
00:04:24.020 Black Straw, who also said
00:04:26.020 these Pakistani heritage men
00:04:28.020 view white English girls as quote
00:04:30.020 easy meat
00:04:32.020 this is when some shout racism
00:04:34.020 but here are the facts
00:04:36.020 calculations based on convictions
00:04:38.020 show that a British Muslim male
00:04:40.020 is 170 times
00:04:42.020 more likely to be part of a sex
00:04:44.020 grooming gang than a non-muslim
00:04:46.020 and there are no recorded
00:04:48.020 instances of non-muslims doing
00:04:50.020 did you really just say
00:04:52.020 170 times?
00:04:54.020 let's keep that in mind
00:04:56.020 let's just carry on
00:04:57.020 doing this to Muslim girls
00:04:58.020 as part of a criminal enterprise
00:05:00.020 in one local jurisdiction
00:05:02.020 it was estimated that 6 out of 7
00:05:04.020 Muslim males either knew about
00:05:06.020 or were part of a grooming gang
00:05:08.020 what you do not have
00:05:10.020 is any example of
00:05:12.020 non-muslim men
00:05:14.020 targeting Muslim girls
00:05:16.020 for this organised form of abuse
00:05:18.020 so the argument that
00:05:20.020 this crime exists everywhere
00:05:22.020 is not only false
00:05:24.020 but is being deliberately
00:05:26.020 cultivated by the media
00:05:28.020 and by the government inquiry
00:05:30.020 that is kicking the can down the rows
00:05:32.020 the grooming gangs
00:05:34.020 ok let's stop there
00:05:36.020 so I heard key words
00:05:38.020 it started off with
00:05:39.020 Muslims and Tablay
00:05:40.020 then it was Pakistani
00:05:41.020 then I heard easy meat
00:05:42.020 meaning that
00:05:43.020 these individuals are targeting
00:05:44.020 because these girls are easy
00:05:46.020 and what this guy just said
00:05:48.020 oh 100 and
00:05:49.020 we're as Muslims
00:05:50.020 we are 170 times more likely
00:05:53.020 to do this
00:05:54.020 which is
00:05:55.020 I don't know what statistics
00:05:56.020 that's crazy
00:05:57.020 I don't know maybe
00:05:58.020 he got that from
00:06:00.020 I don't know maybe
00:06:01.020 he didn't do maths at school
00:06:02.020 is there Caucasian grooming gangs?
00:06:05.020 of course there are
00:06:06.020 ok ok let's
00:06:07.020 what's the percentage?
00:06:08.020 they say 38%
00:06:09.020 I think something like that
00:06:10.020 38% is Caucasian
00:06:12.020 the rest is all agencies
00:06:13.020 this is a fringe
00:06:14.020 this is a branch
00:06:15.020 that's been taken
00:06:16.020 of the umbrella
00:06:17.020 you were talking about
00:06:18.020 was child sex abuse
00:06:19.020 this grooming gangs
00:06:20.020 is one element
00:06:21.020 it's one little element
00:06:22.020 you can look at
00:06:23.020 50,000 people are watching
00:06:24.020 indecent child pictures online
00:06:26.020 you've got currently
00:06:28.020 261 celebrities
00:06:29.020 that are being
00:06:30.020 well investigated
00:06:31.020 for child sex abuse
00:06:33.020 you're seeing Scotland Yard
00:06:34.020 covering this up
00:06:35.020 ok
00:06:36.020 ok alright
00:06:37.020 so
00:06:38.020 38% Caucasian
00:06:39.020 and the rest is Asian
00:06:40.020 UK
00:06:41.020 no not the rest is Asian
00:06:42.020 there's 22% black
00:06:43.020 28% Asian
00:06:44.020 ok alright
00:06:45.020 no problem
00:06:46.020 what's in common?
00:06:47.020 the victims are?
00:06:48.020 a lot of the time
00:06:49.020 they say the victims are white
00:06:50.020 ok
00:06:51.020 ok
00:06:52.020 so then
00:06:53.020 we need to ask a question
00:06:54.020 why are the
00:06:55.020 Caucasian and the black men
00:06:56.020 going for white girls?
00:06:57.020 yeah so it could be
00:06:58.020 it could be a problem of race
00:06:59.020 it could be
00:07:00.020 no no no why why
00:07:01.020 no no no even the Caucasian
00:07:02.020 why are they going for their own race?
00:07:03.020 yeah that's a good point
00:07:04.020 no no why why
00:07:05.020 it's a question
00:07:06.020 because the thing is the victims
00:07:07.020 seems like it's a regular pattern
00:07:08.020 of victims
00:07:09.020 the perpetrators
00:07:10.020 are a mixture
00:07:11.020 so if the perpetrators are a mixture
00:07:13.020 and the victim is the same
00:07:14.020 how can you get a small group
00:07:16.020 and say look
00:07:17.020 victims
00:07:18.020 are the same
00:07:19.020 look these guys
00:07:21.020 do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:07:22.020 yeah yeah I get it
00:07:23.020 so because the thing is
00:07:24.020 it shows
00:07:25.020 it comes back to
00:07:26.020 easy meat
00:07:27.020 yeah?
00:07:28.020 easy meat
00:07:29.020 not only for the Asian group and gangs
00:07:30.020 violent animals
00:07:31.020 but the same with the perpetrators
00:07:32.020 black and white
00:07:33.020 they're doing the same thing
00:07:34.020 ok
00:07:35.020 what do we blame them for?
00:07:36.020 ok
00:07:37.020 ok
00:07:38.020 why does the Caucasians
00:07:39.020 the only difference is
00:07:40.020 why are they doing it?
00:07:41.020 right wingers
00:07:42.020 aren't as vocal
00:07:43.020 about
00:07:44.020 other races
00:07:45.020 or cultures
00:07:46.020 or religions
00:07:47.020 as they are about Muslims
00:07:48.020 ok
00:07:49.020 ok
00:07:50.020 why
00:07:51.020 so are they basically trying to say
00:07:52.020 that we are ok with our own kind raping our own kind
00:07:54.020 that's literally a quote of what they said
00:07:56.020 they said British crimes should be perpetrated by British people
00:08:01.020 what kind of a sick mind is that?
00:08:02.020 it should be
00:08:03.020 it should be
00:08:04.020 it should be
00:08:05.020 nobody should do it
00:08:06.020 let's deal with the second to last
00:08:07.020 the penultimate thing you just mentioned
00:08:09.020 the
00:08:10.020 the most recent
00:08:11.020 COP
00:08:12.020 which is the Child Exploration Online Protection Centre
00:08:14.020 they looked at 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008
00:08:20.020 and basically they found that 26% of those individuals were Asian
00:08:24.020 38% were white etc
00:08:25.020 now of the Asians in 2012 that 415 were of the Asians
00:08:30.020 there were 35 of which were Pakistani
00:08:33.020 so here
00:08:34.020 because he's mentioned Pakistanis right?
00:08:36.020 yes
00:08:37.020 what he said is actually factually incorrect
00:08:39.020 yeah
00:08:40.020 what he said according to the most authoritative body in this country that analyzes these statistics
00:08:46.020 is actually factually incorrect
00:08:48.020 and he's been allowed to get away with it
00:08:49.020 he said that this is a particular problem for Pakistanis
00:08:52.020 actually factually that's not correct
00:08:54.020 because only 35 of 415 Asians were Pakistani
00:08:58.020 5 of them were from Bangladesh
00:09:00.020 which means to say that 10%
00:09:02.020 and this is what people have said about this
00:09:05.020 10%
00:09:06.020 the Guardian has said 10%
00:09:08.020 of the Asians
00:09:09.020 were Muslim
00:09:10.020 so in other words
00:09:11.020 this is not a specific
00:09:12.020 it's not a specific Muslim problem as was suggested
00:09:14.020 as was suggested in the beginning
00:09:16.020 when they said it was a Muslim issue
00:09:17.020 now this is one point
00:09:19.020 the second point is really really important anyways
00:09:21.020 which is
00:09:22.020 the last thing he said
00:09:24.020 he said that this is not an issue
00:09:26.020 okay
00:09:27.020 which
00:09:28.020 relates to other races
00:09:29.020 which is completely false
00:09:30.020 when you look at it from an international perspective
00:09:32.020 the Polaris Project
00:09:34.020 which is one of the leading
00:09:36.020 once again authorities in this
00:09:37.020 conducted a survey
00:09:39.020 which using central
00:09:41.020 the Bureau of Central Statistics
00:09:43.020 in America's statistics
00:09:45.020 found that 77%
00:09:47.020 of Americans
00:09:49.020 being humanly
00:09:50.020 being human trafficked
00:09:51.020 like the human trafficking going on
00:09:53.020 are people of colour
00:09:54.020 are people of colour
00:09:55.020 so basically black people
00:09:56.020 people from Asia etc
00:09:57.020 and the people that are doing this the most
00:09:59.020 are in fact white people
00:10:01.020 so human trafficking in many ways
00:10:03.020 is more severe than grooming
00:10:04.020 because it's
00:10:05.020 literally selling slaves
00:10:06.020 for the purpose of sexual exploitation
00:10:08.020 yeah
00:10:09.020 this is happening
00:10:10.020 in the United States of America
00:10:12.020 more so
00:10:13.020 from white people
00:10:14.020 to the people of colour
00:10:15.020 than it is
00:10:16.020 happening in the UK
00:10:17.020 okay so I want to be
00:10:18.020 Tommy Robinson for a minute
00:10:19.020 yeah
00:10:20.020 I want to use that
00:10:21.020 because this is what exactly
00:10:22.020 he's doing yeah
00:10:23.020 yeah
00:10:24.020 you said to me in America
00:10:25.020 there's these Caucasian men
00:10:26.020 who are using coloured girls
00:10:27.020 they're selling them for sex
00:10:28.020 yeah
00:10:29.020 okay
00:10:30.020 okay
00:10:31.020 I'm going to put Tommy Robinson
00:10:32.020 in the brain
00:10:33.020 yeah
00:10:34.020 it's going to be hard for me to be him
00:10:35.020 alright
00:10:36.020 but
00:10:37.020 and okay
00:10:38.020 alright
00:10:39.020 is America a Christian country?
00:10:40.020 well the majority of Americans
00:10:41.020 according to the census
00:10:42.020 excuse me sir
00:10:43.020 so I'm Tommy Robinson
00:10:44.020 I just want a direct question
00:10:45.020 yeah so you would say yeah
00:10:46.020 it's a Christian country yeah
00:10:47.020 okay hold on a second
00:10:48.020 okay
00:10:49.020 they follow the bible?
00:10:50.020 the majority of them
00:10:51.020 are they Caucasian?
00:10:52.020 the majority of them
00:10:53.020 is exploitation happening?
00:10:54.020 yes
00:10:55.020 that's a Christian issue to me
00:10:57.020 so yeah
00:10:58.020 if you take the same
00:10:59.020 look
00:11:00.020 that's the thing
00:11:01.020 this is what's happening here
00:11:02.020 this is exactly what's happening
00:11:03.020 so
00:11:04.020 now I want you guys to understand this
00:11:05.020 this is the reason why
00:11:06.020 so would I have a right
00:11:07.020 to go to Tommy
00:11:08.020 and say
00:11:09.020 look mate
00:11:10.020 you're a Christian
00:11:11.020 probably a Christian yeah
00:11:12.020 I want you
00:11:13.020 this is your problem right now yeah
00:11:14.020 what are you going to do about it?
00:11:16.020 how would you feel?
00:11:17.020 well that's the point
00:11:18.020 this is the false premise here
00:11:20.020 that just because there's a correlation
00:11:22.020 there's a causation
00:11:23.020 and there's a difference between correlation
00:11:25.020 and causation
00:11:26.020 for example
00:11:27.020 if we did a study on obese people
00:11:29.020 yeah
00:11:30.020 obesity and depression
00:11:32.020 which I'm one
00:11:33.020 I am actually
00:11:34.020 you know
00:11:35.020 if we did a study on obesity and depression
00:11:37.020 right
00:11:38.020 yeah
00:11:39.020 and we picked up a sample of a hundred people
00:11:40.020 and we said that we want to find out
00:11:41.020 if obesity links to depression
00:11:43.020 okay
00:11:44.020 and we asked those individuals
00:11:45.020 are you depressed?
00:11:46.020 and some of them say
00:11:47.020 well the majority of them say yes
00:11:48.020 that's a correlation
00:11:49.020 but we have no right to judge that
00:11:50.020 the reason for the depression is obesity
00:11:52.020 because it could be
00:11:53.020 that it's depression
00:11:55.020 that leads to obesity
00:11:56.020 rather than obesity
00:11:57.020 that leads to depression
00:11:58.020 so correlations and causations
00:11:59.020 are two different things
00:12:00.020 you have to look holistically
00:12:02.020 at the situation
00:12:03.020 and one more thing
00:12:04.020 that I just wanted to mention quickly
00:12:05.020 was
00:12:06.020 the NSPCC
00:12:07.020 has said that 90%
00:12:09.020 because we talked about human trafficking
00:12:10.020 being a general sexual exploitation problem
00:12:12.020 but the NSPCC has said
00:12:14.020 in relation to children
00:12:16.020 that 90% of children
00:12:18.020 have been sexually abused
00:12:19.020 sexually abused
00:12:20.020 at one stage
00:12:21.020 by adults
00:12:22.020 and for the most part
00:12:23.020 these adults
00:12:24.020 it can't be Asians
00:12:25.020 because for the most part
00:12:26.020 they were their family members
00:12:27.020 right
00:12:28.020 so here we have
00:12:29.020 layers of problems
00:12:30.020 we have exploitation
00:12:31.020 which is one layer
00:12:32.020 general sexual exploitation
00:12:33.020 which is a problem in the West
00:12:35.020 it's a problem in the West
00:12:36.020 and it's not something
00:12:38.020 you can scape out to Muslim communities
00:12:40.020 or any other communities
00:12:41.020 you have a problem of sexual
00:12:43.020 child exploitation
00:12:44.020 which the NSPCC says
00:12:45.020 is reaching epidemic levels of 90%
00:12:48.020 right
00:12:49.020 and the majority of people
00:12:50.020 that are taking part of this
00:12:51.020 are people
00:12:52.020 you know
00:12:53.020 family members
00:12:54.020 doing it to their own children
00:12:55.020 or to their own nieces
00:12:56.020 or to their own
00:12:57.020 wherever it may be
00:12:58.020 this is happening
00:12:59.020 so 90% of these people
00:13:00.020 are in fact
00:13:01.020 they cannot be Muslim
00:13:02.020 by virtue of population
00:13:03.020 because Muslims
00:13:04.020 account for 5%
00:13:05.020 of the UK population
00:13:06.020 so
00:13:07.020 from these perspectives
00:13:08.020 it seems like
00:13:09.020 these narratives
00:13:10.020 what they're intentionally doing
00:13:12.020 is they're trying to sabotage
00:13:13.020 statistical information
00:13:14.020 in order to derive
00:13:15.020 some kind of false conclusion
00:13:17.020 about Muslim
00:13:18.020 depravity
00:13:19.020 in relation to sexual intercourse
00:13:21.020 or exploitation
00:13:22.020 yeah
00:13:23.020 no to be honest look
00:13:24.020 the fact that there's
00:13:25.020 non-Muslims
00:13:26.020 doing this or non-Asians
00:13:27.020 you need to bring an argument
00:13:28.020 where you're going to say
00:13:29.020 look here look everywhere
00:13:30.020 yeah
00:13:31.020 there's nobody but Asians and Muslims
00:13:32.020 then we will say you know what
00:13:33.020 okay there is a problem going on here
00:13:34.020 but anyways let's watch it
00:13:35.020 yeah
00:13:36.020 and then we're going to come to
00:13:37.020 you've got some things to say
00:13:38.020 yeah yeah yeah
00:13:39.020 but let's watch it
00:13:40.020 yeah
00:13:41.020 they've been traced back
00:13:42.020 as far as the late 1980s
00:13:44.020 at risk white English girls
00:13:46.020 often from broken homes
00:13:48.020 and some as young as 9 years old
00:13:50.020 were wooed or groomed
00:13:52.020 by teenage Muslim boys
00:13:54.020 called Romeos
00:13:55.020 and even by groups of Muslim men
00:13:58.020 who hung around school gates
00:14:00.020 the plan was to make the girl feel important
00:14:02.020 she was given gifts and drugs
00:14:05.020 but she was being groomed
00:14:06.020 to be a drug addicted prostitute
00:14:08.020 then came the gang rapes
00:14:10.020 the girls were threatened with death
00:14:12.020 if they tried to flee
00:14:14.020 it's not just sexual abuse
00:14:19.020 unspeakable levels of violence
00:14:21.020 victims being raped with knives
00:14:23.020 victims being raped with bottles
00:14:25.020 victims having their tongue nailed to tables
00:14:28.020 these are sometimes girls who are being
00:14:30.020 picked up from children's homes on a Friday
00:14:33.020 are being raped during the course of the weekend
00:14:36.020 by hundreds of men
00:14:38.020 and then returned with bleeding groins
00:14:39.020 back to the children's homes on a Monday morning
00:14:42.020 and they don't do anything about it at all
00:14:45.020 Christine's goddaughter was preyed on by the grooming gang
00:14:48.020 they pulled up by the side of her in cars
00:14:51.020 they tried to get her in the car
00:14:53.020 they were talking to her
00:14:54.020 come on come with us
00:14:55.020 we'll take you here
00:14:56.020 we'll take you there
00:14:57.020 were you saying that the authorities make it sound like
00:14:59.020 it's the English girls fault
00:15:01.020 yeah or the parents fault
00:15:03.020 it's your fault because you haven't got control of your child
00:15:07.020 if you are a young English girl particularly between the ages of 9 and 14
00:15:12.020 and you find yourself subject to the perversions of Muslim men
00:15:15.020 you effectively exist in a country where the forces of law and order don't exist at all
00:15:19.020 they've said Muslim way too many times
00:15:21.020 yes
00:15:22.020 you know if it was such a Muslim problem yeah
00:15:24.020 if you look at the top 5 countries in which rape is just the highest
00:15:30.020 yeah the top 5 countries
00:15:31.020 when it gets Pakistan
00:15:32.020 number 1 is the US
00:15:34.020 yeah and they are a majority Christian country
00:15:37.020 number 2 South Africa
00:15:39.020 oh really
00:15:40.020 majority Christian country
00:15:42.020 number 3 Sweden
00:15:44.020 wow
00:15:45.020 atheistic country
00:15:46.020 yeah
00:15:48.020 number 4
00:15:49.020 be careful when you go there
00:15:50.020 yeah
00:15:51.020 number 4 is India
00:15:53.020 Hindu country
00:15:54.020 and number 5
00:15:56.020 UK
00:15:57.020 which is atheist
00:15:58.020 slash Christian country
00:16:00.020 not one of them
00:16:01.020 are majority Muslim country
00:16:02.020 if this was such an issue
00:16:04.020 it would be
00:16:05.020 that one is on
00:16:06.020 just destroys the whole argument
00:16:08.020 but
00:16:09.020 if you look at the facts
00:16:11.020 no one credible
00:16:12.020 has mentioned religion
00:16:14.020 you don't have any credible research or peer reviewed journals
00:16:17.020 that has claimed with backed up research that it is a Muslim Islamic problem
00:16:21.020 number 1
00:16:22.020 no judge linked it to Islam
00:16:24.020 you have no victim that has linked it to Islam
00:16:27.020 no police report has linked it to Islam
00:16:30.020 so the question arises where on earth is this Muslim thing coming from?
00:16:34.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:35.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:36.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:37.020 now if they are saying no it is a Muslim problem
00:16:40.020 you have to now conclude that
00:16:42.020 the police are wrong
00:16:43.020 the judicial system is wrong
00:16:45.020 the victims are wrong
00:16:46.020 the policing system is wrong
00:16:47.020 so
00:16:48.020 putting them all aside
00:16:49.020 yeah you can say oh the whole system is wrong
00:16:50.020 the victim
00:16:51.020 the victim would have come and said
00:16:52.020 you know what
00:16:53.020 these guys before they were doing it
00:16:54.020 I heard them talking about this verses of the Quran
00:16:56.020 and they were saying this
00:16:57.020 and you know
00:16:58.020 they were praying
00:16:59.020 they had the Quran open
00:17:00.020 yes yes yes
00:17:01.020 yeah no if they had the Quran open
00:17:02.020 they would not be doing that
00:17:03.020 another thing to equate it
00:17:04.020 like Asians
00:17:05.020 equals Muslims
00:17:06.020 then the whole of India Hindus
00:17:08.020 therefore become Muslim then
00:17:09.020 because they are Asian
00:17:10.020 I think the majority of Asians in this country are actually Indian
00:17:14.020 and I am not going to say the majority
00:17:16.020 but at least the vast
00:17:17.020 maybe the majority actually
00:17:18.020 the majority of Indians are actually Hindu
00:17:21.020 in this country
00:17:22.020 exactly
00:17:23.020 so again this term grooming gang
00:17:24.020 yeah let's not get sucked up in the media frenzy
00:17:26.020 because of the voice of the far rights
00:17:28.020 let's kind of okay
00:17:30.020 let's kind of just put that to the side
00:17:31.020 and academically let's look at this
00:17:33.020 grooming gangs
00:17:34.020 the term
00:17:35.020 where
00:17:36.020 what's the history
00:17:37.020 where is it from
00:17:38.020 yeah it's only come to
00:17:40.020 our screens in about 2003
00:17:42.020 what does that mean
00:17:43.020 that it didn't exist before 2003
00:17:45.020 it did exist
00:17:46.020 yeah
00:17:47.020 but because there was no minority
00:17:49.020 that was
00:17:50.020 that could be scapegoated
00:17:52.020 it wasn't kind of
00:17:53.020 put into the headlines
00:17:55.020 as it is now
00:17:56.020 it wasn't made into a separate category
00:17:57.020 you could say
00:17:58.020 exactly
00:17:59.020 I mean you have look
00:18:00.020 you can think of it this way
00:18:01.020 you have the umbrella of sexual exploitation
00:18:03.020 underneath the umbrella
00:18:04.020 you have different segments
00:18:05.020 so you have rape
00:18:06.020 you have child abuse
00:18:07.020 you have the
00:18:08.020 and sometimes obviously they link
00:18:09.020 trafficking
00:18:10.020 and a lot of times they will link with each other
00:18:13.020 and so what I think the problem with statistics
00:18:15.020 another problem we talked about the causality correlation problem
00:18:17.020 but there's another problem
00:18:18.020 which is that when you make your own category
00:18:20.020 sometimes you can do so with the intent of marginalizing a certain community
00:18:24.020 why don't we just talk about these problems generically
00:18:28.020 like for example human trafficking
00:18:29.020 why don't we talk about rape generally
00:18:31.020 generally
00:18:32.020 that's not going to be mentioned
00:18:33.020 because there's no minority to pender on
00:18:35.020 exactly
00:18:36.020 the grooming gangs thing
00:18:37.020 anytime you're told grooming gang or terrorist
00:18:39.020 who do you think of first
00:18:40.020 right
00:18:41.020 immediately now you think of Muslim
00:18:42.020 and that's what the EDL has been doing
00:18:44.020 immediately linking Muslim with grooming gang
00:18:47.020 Muslim with the word terrorist
00:18:49.020 yeah
00:18:50.020 human trafficking is an old term
00:18:51.020 yeah
00:18:52.020 prostitution
00:18:53.020 pimping
00:18:54.020 there are old terms for example
00:18:55.020 we were talking about pimping
00:18:56.020 yeah
00:18:57.020 11 Hungarians
00:18:58.020 have been caught trafficking and exploiting 250 women
00:19:01.020 yeah
00:19:02.020 one Brazilian has made about 150,000 from prostitution in the UK
00:19:07.020 but like you said
00:19:08.020 because this is a term
00:19:09.020 that's been there for quite a while
00:19:11.020 grooming gangs
00:19:12.020 this term hasn't
00:19:13.020 it's a
00:19:14.020 it's a relatively fresh term
00:19:15.020 so you can agree
00:19:16.020 yeah
00:19:17.020 it's untainted
00:19:18.020 so it has now been planted on the Muslims
00:19:20.020 and now because of what's been shown to us repetitively
00:19:23.020 it's being drilled into our subconscious
00:19:25.020 ok
00:19:26.020 let's
00:19:27.020 carry on
00:19:28.020 Stephen Lennon
00:19:29.020 also known as Tommy Robinson
00:19:31.020 former leader of the English Defence League
00:19:33.020 was just a young boy in the town of Luton
00:19:36.020 when he learned a family member had been victimised by a grooming gang
00:19:40.020 my cousin was raped
00:19:42.020 and she was found naked running from the Muslim community
00:19:46.020 age 13
00:19:47.020 police wouldn't help
00:19:48.020 running from the Muslim community
00:19:50.020 such big words like his
00:19:53.020 Muslim community
00:19:54.020 how many millions are there in this country
00:19:56.020 so she was running away from all the Muslims
00:19:59.020 that's what I'm saying
00:20:00.020 extreme
00:20:01.020 all the police would say is she's a drug addict
00:20:03.020 she was a drug addict
00:20:04.020 because they got her hooked on drugs after grooming and raping her
00:20:06.020 some say grooming gangs originate from a particular region of Pakistan
00:20:11.020 but others point out that the Quran encourages Muslims to take enemy women as sex slaves
00:20:17.020 and that Mohammed had sex with a nine year old wife
00:20:21.020 like for example Tommy Robinson
00:20:23.020 we don't have an issue with him
00:20:24.020 and we don't say to him
00:20:25.020 you know what
00:20:26.020 why are you going after these valuable individuals
00:20:28.020 these Pakistani
00:20:29.020 we don't have a problem with you going after them
00:20:32.020 I'm being honest with you
00:20:33.020 if you rang me today
00:20:34.020 and said look I'm going to go there
00:20:36.020 you come
00:20:37.020 I'll say look time and place
00:20:38.020 because the thing is
00:20:39.020 my issue is this
00:20:40.020 you're going there and making it seem a Muslim problem
00:20:43.020 my issue is that
00:20:45.020 when you go into these terrorist attacks that happen
00:20:46.020 you make it a Muslim problem
00:20:48.020 not you don't see it as
00:20:49.020 okay look this terrorism done
00:20:50.020 yes terrorism done
00:20:51.020 it's done by a variety of people from different backgrounds
00:20:54.020 you know what I'm trying to say
00:20:55.020 we don't have that issue with you
00:20:57.020 the issue is that you take things out of context
00:20:59.020 let me just address what he said here
00:21:00.020 because he made a couple of allegations
00:21:02.020 we said that with the
00:21:03.020 with that issue I think
00:21:04.020 the prophet's wife
00:21:06.020 me and you made a video
00:21:08.020 you'll put it in the description
00:21:09.020 yes yes yes
00:21:10.020 so that you guys can refer to that
00:21:11.020 but just quickly on the other issue
00:21:13.020 the other issue of what the right hand possesses
00:21:15.020 which is referred to in the Quran
00:21:16.020 now the thing is
00:21:17.020 you have to understand
00:21:18.020 that this is referring to prisoners of war
00:21:20.020 that actually is completely dependent upon
00:21:23.020 as you've mentioned
00:21:24.020 the social and political context
00:21:26.020 it does not apply in today's world
00:21:28.020 according to the consensus of the scholars
00:21:30.020 because now there is no such thing as prisoners of war
00:21:34.020 we're not in a state of war
00:21:35.020 and this is the reality
00:21:36.020 yeah
00:21:37.020 of the situation
00:21:38.020 so no one can use this as an example
00:21:39.020 now having said that
00:21:40.020 once again
00:21:41.020 as you correctly said
00:21:42.020 yeah
00:21:43.020 you correctly said that
00:21:44.020 basically in America
00:21:45.020 it's you could
00:21:46.020 you could argue
00:21:47.020 because the majority are actually Christian
00:21:48.020 that they follow
00:21:49.020 now I could
00:21:50.020 I could pull out 30
00:21:51.020 numbers 31 18
00:21:52.020 and say look
00:21:53.020 it says that
00:21:54.020 go and go into the town
00:21:55.020 and kill the
00:21:56.020 take the women as the young
00:21:57.020 the young girls as
00:21:58.020 as slaves
00:21:59.020 and I can say look
00:22:00.020 this is linked to this
00:22:01.020 so
00:22:02.020 most Christians would object to that
00:22:04.020 and rightfully so
00:22:05.020 and rightfully so
00:22:06.020 they say listen this is no cause
00:22:07.020 alayhi here
00:22:08.020 exactly
00:22:09.020 why because actually I don't think they're inspired by this
00:22:10.020 the same thing would apply with us
00:22:12.020 I bet you they don't eat
00:22:13.020 they don't even know this verse
00:22:15.020 I bet you not a single would say you know what I did what I did why
00:22:18.020 because I challenge you look I'm being very clear cut here
00:22:21.020 yeah
00:22:22.020 they would not same way with these guys I'm sorry yeah
00:22:24.020 looking at their lifestyle and what they're doing
00:22:26.020 you are far from like I'm sorry you are far from what Islam teaches
00:22:30.020 and this is why you're doing why do you think
00:22:32.020 let me ask you a question
00:22:33.020 why do you think these men are doing what they're doing
00:22:35.020 why why because here it was used that easy target
00:22:38.020 yeah
00:22:39.020 to me it seems they're like
00:22:40.020 whichever one's an easy target
00:22:41.020 yeah
00:22:42.020 the issue here
00:22:43.020 the word that we need to understand is
00:22:44.020 easy
00:22:45.020 they're looking for easy target
00:22:46.020 easy yeah
00:22:47.020 do you get it?
00:22:48.020 yeah
00:22:49.020 and if that easy target is a black girls
00:22:50.020 they're gonna go for black girls
00:22:51.020 if it's Muslim girls
00:22:52.020 they're gonna go for Muslim girls
00:22:53.020 if it's white girls
00:22:54.020 which what they're doing
00:22:55.020 the most that you can say you know what
00:22:56.020 these guys are racist
00:22:57.020 yeah
00:22:58.020 do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:22:59.020 you know what's interesting as well
00:23:00.020 is that this news report
00:23:01.020 is kind of contradicting itself
00:23:03.020 first it's talking about
00:23:04.020 how these people are addicted to drugs
00:23:06.020 to drugs and these kind of things
00:23:08.020 and then they're not only addicted to drugs
00:23:09.020 but they actually supply it for the people
00:23:11.020 that they groom
00:23:12.020 yeah
00:23:13.020 but at the same time they're meant to represent
00:23:14.020 an orthodox strand of Islam
00:23:16.020 it's two opposites
00:23:17.020 or an extremist form of Islam even
00:23:19.020 yeah
00:23:20.020 so having said that
00:23:21.020 it doesn't make any sense
00:23:22.020 because there's no interpretation
00:23:23.020 not even the extremist
00:23:24.020 abhorrent ISIS interpretation of Islam
00:23:26.020 that allows for example
00:23:28.020 the consumption of intoxicants
00:23:29.020 so here we don't see
00:23:31.020 what do you want us to believe here
00:23:32.020 there's no correlation
00:23:33.020 there is no causation
00:23:34.020 because somebody's just trying to connect it
00:23:36.020 yeah
00:23:37.020 like you have to try hard
00:23:38.020 to connect it
00:23:39.020 and it's all based on emotions
00:23:40.020 statistics doesn't show it
00:23:41.020 scripture doesn't show it
00:23:42.020 yeah
00:23:43.020 now you guys said numbers
00:23:44.020 now if we look at Romania
00:23:45.020 yeah
00:23:46.020 Romania is 98% Christian
00:23:48.020 yeah
00:23:49.020 there was an issue of a Romanian paedophile
00:23:51.020 who groomed 10 kids
00:23:52.020 yeah
00:23:53.020 now
00:23:55.020 is that now a Christian problem?
00:23:57.020 why was there no mention
00:23:58.020 of the word Christian
00:23:59.020 in any of the articles
00:24:01.020 or news coverage
00:24:02.020 now if you look at say Poland
00:24:04.020 94% Christian
00:24:06.020 yeah
00:24:07.020 country
00:24:08.020 same issue happened
00:24:09.020 no mention of the word
00:24:10.020 Christian
00:24:11.020 you know
00:24:12.020 even in Hungary
00:24:13.020 yeah
00:24:14.020 there was a grooming gang
00:24:15.020 who exploited hundreds of women
00:24:16.020 yeah
00:24:17.020 hundreds of women
00:24:18.020 for 6 years
00:24:20.020 hundreds
00:24:21.020 of women for 6 years
00:24:23.020 where did they get this from?
00:24:24.020 yeah
00:24:25.020 now
00:24:26.020 they are
00:24:27.020 over 50% of the country is Christian
00:24:28.020 yeah
00:24:29.020 majority Christian nation
00:24:30.020 are you going to link that to Christianity then?
00:24:33.020 Jimmy Savo
00:24:34.020 yeah
00:24:35.020 Jimmy Savo was
00:24:36.020 he had a Roman Catholic upbringing
00:24:38.020 his religion
00:24:39.020 isn't getting mentioned
00:24:40.020 the texts aren't being scrutinised
00:24:42.020 verses aren't being taken out of context
00:24:44.020 you take someone like Richard Huckle
00:24:46.020 who was a practicing Christian
00:24:47.020 from Kent
00:24:48.020 and he went to Malaysia
00:24:50.020 abusing kids
00:24:51.020 his religion
00:24:52.020 that was the purpose of his visit
00:24:54.020 his religion wasn't brought up
00:24:56.020 Bible texts weren't taken
00:24:58.020 and the Christian community
00:25:00.020 weren't told
00:25:01.020 to apologise for these acts
00:25:03.020 yeah
00:25:04.020 these are majority
00:25:05.020 Romania, Poland, Hungary
00:25:06.020 in fact
00:25:07.020 the thing is
00:25:08.020 the danger is
00:25:09.020 when you monopolise
00:25:10.020 to a particular colour
00:25:11.020 or religion
00:25:12.020 yeah
00:25:13.020 what you are now doing
00:25:14.020 is
00:25:15.020 you're painting
00:25:16.020 the perpetrators
00:25:17.020 of a certain colour
00:25:18.020 and a faith
00:25:19.020 which gives a free pass
00:25:21.020 to the others
00:25:22.020 that's why initially
00:25:23.020 the police failed to do so
00:25:24.020 the West
00:25:25.020 because of its power structures
00:25:27.020 and its elite
00:25:28.020 being on top in the media
00:25:29.020 and all those kind of things
00:25:30.020 he says that
00:25:31.020 you're always going to have
00:25:32.020 in the West
00:25:33.020 the bad guy
00:25:34.020 so as you mentioned correctly
00:25:35.020 before you had the black guys
00:25:36.020 the Jews
00:25:38.020 in Europe
00:25:40.020 actually there was
00:25:41.020 a Jewish problem in Europe
00:25:42.020 then you have
00:25:43.020 what do you call it
00:25:44.020 then you have
00:25:45.020 Russians
00:25:46.020 Russians, Japanese
00:25:47.020 all of these individuals
00:25:48.020 had their turn
00:25:49.020 who do you think
00:25:50.020 is going to be next
00:25:51.020 I think the Koreans
00:25:52.020 but if these people
00:25:54.020 are more responsible
00:25:55.020 and like you said
00:25:56.020 if they are just
00:25:57.020 and they go to
00:25:58.020 Christian perpetrators
00:25:59.020 they go to white
00:26:00.020 black perpetrators
00:26:01.020 they will be more just
00:26:02.020 and if you are just
00:26:03.020 you can tackle this issue
00:26:04.020 head on
00:26:05.020 now we're not saying that
00:26:06.020 Asians or Muslims
00:26:07.020 they are exempt from this
00:26:08.020 we're saying
00:26:09.020 look if it is an issue
00:26:10.020 go for it
00:26:11.020 but wherever this issue
00:26:12.020 is arising
00:26:13.020 deal with it holistically
00:26:15.020 don't just deal
00:26:16.020 with fringe elements
00:26:17.020 if it's happening
00:26:18.020 with MPs
00:26:19.020 and it's been covered up
00:26:20.020 deal with it
00:26:21.020 if things are happening
00:26:22.020 online
00:26:23.020 deal with it
00:26:24.020 we're asking
00:26:25.020 Tommy Robinson
00:26:26.020 look we're not even asking
00:26:27.020 you to find us
00:26:28.020 we will come to you
00:26:29.020 no problem
00:26:30.020 we've said this before
00:26:31.020 we'll say it again yeah
00:26:32.020 look you're going to people
00:26:33.020 who can't speak English properly
00:26:34.020 etc. we're saying to you
00:26:35.020 look why don't you come
00:26:36.020 and talk to one of us
00:26:37.020 all your arguments
00:26:38.020 the prophet marrying Aisha at 9
00:26:39.020 these sexes
00:26:40.020 whatever you claim
00:26:41.020 no problem
00:26:42.020 why don't you come
00:26:43.020 and talk to us
00:26:44.020 because you know
00:26:45.020 it will be your intellectual burial
00:26:46.020 because you know
00:26:47.020 intellectual you'll be buried
00:26:48.020 because this is what
00:26:49.020 this is what you thrive on
00:26:50.020 putting terror
00:26:51.020 in the people's hearts
00:26:52.020 and you're making money off that
00:26:53.020 he's perfect
00:26:54.020 Tommy wrote a book recently
00:26:55.020 didn't he
00:26:56.020 yeah yeah yeah
00:26:57.020 there you go
00:26:58.020 he's writing books about Muslims
00:26:59.020 no it's crazy
00:27:00.020 it's like Hitler writing a book
00:27:01.020 on the Old Testament
00:27:02.020 yeah
00:27:03.020 no no no
00:27:04.020 but
00:27:05.020 I'm not saying he's
00:27:06.020 as bad as him
00:27:07.020 yeah yeah
00:27:08.020 come on man
00:27:09.020 he's ridiculous
00:27:10.020 moreover
00:27:11.020 let me just not
00:27:12.020 I don't want to humiliate
00:27:13.020 anyone here
00:27:14.020 he humiliates himself
00:27:15.020 you don't need to
00:27:16.020 no the point is like
00:27:17.020 someone who might not even have
00:27:18.020 formal GCSE qualifications
00:27:19.020 I mean I don't even know
00:27:20.020 if he's got a C grade
00:27:21.020 in maths and english
00:27:22.020 someone like that
00:27:23.020 writing an academic piece
00:27:24.020 on Islam
00:27:25.020 a religion
00:27:26.020 which he has no idea about
00:27:27.020 in a language
00:27:28.020 which he has not
00:27:29.020 it doesn't have to
00:27:30.020 write his own name in
00:27:31.020 so guys
00:27:32.020 hope you guys have benefited
00:27:33.020 that's about it really
00:27:34.020 do share this with your friends and family
00:27:35.020 and non muslim as well
00:27:36.020 that's it