Ali Dawah - September 07, 2017


MUSLIMS REACT TO GROOMING GANGS - DEBUNKED


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27 minutes

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5,351

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5

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Misogyny

22

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Toxicity

93

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Hate speech

73

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As Muslims, what does Islam say about grooming young girls? What does it mean and what does it teach us about this vile and cowardly act? Is there a link between Islam and grooming? Is it a crime against Islam? And what does the Quran say about it?

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00:00:00.280 Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
00:00:01.880 Brothers and sisters and dear friends, hope you guys are doing well
00:00:03.700 If there's non-Muslims tuning in to this, which I'm sure 1.00
00:00:06.020 they will be, it's great that
00:00:08.160 you've come to my channel, inshallah, because our
00:00:09.940 whole point today is
00:00:12.200 obviously you guys know from the title, there's
00:00:13.940 grooming gang issue, yeah? And as Muslims 1.00
00:00:15.860 we would love for you guys to hear where we're
00:00:17.900 coming from, and we would just really appreciate
00:00:19.960 if for a moment, we know the news
00:00:22.220 everyone, Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, we just
00:00:24.060 want you to, today, zone out
00:00:26.120 meaning, put that thinking to
00:00:27.980 aside, and hear us out
00:00:29.940 what does Islam really teach, and
00:00:32.080 as Muslims, what is our say
00:00:34.120 on this matter of grooming, young
00:00:36.140 girls, whoever it may be, whoever
00:00:38.140 it's done by, how do you feel?
00:00:39.960 Automatically as a human being, yeah
00:00:42.040 not talking about religion, or
00:00:44.260 race, or caste, or creed
00:00:45.380 immediately when you hear stuff like this, it
00:00:48.060 sickens you, to the core 0.81
00:00:49.460 it's a vile and cowardly act 0.99
00:00:52.000 to be preying on
00:00:54.060 disenfranchised and vulnerable
00:00:55.880 children, women
00:00:58.040 or anyone, yes, who's
00:01:00.000 who's been a victim to this, that's the
00:01:02.220 first and foremost, and that's what we want to make
00:01:04.240 clear as well from the beginning, this video
00:01:06.420 is by no means in any
00:01:08.520 fraction of
00:01:10.240 the matter that we are defending
00:01:12.280 it, yeah? This act has
00:01:14.280 absolutely no defence whatsoever, and
00:01:16.500 any human being that has
00:01:18.420 you know, any emotion or
00:01:20.320 justice in their heart, will see something
00:01:22.200 like this, and they will automatically be
00:01:24.340 disgusted to the core, exactly, if there's one
00:01:26.380 thing we're defending, we're just trying to defend Islam
00:01:28.300 from this vile behaviour, exactly, that is
00:01:30.180 only one thing, so when we, Islam is free from 1.00
00:01:32.360 this, so when we come with statistics and stuff like that
00:01:34.180 the only thing we're defending here, is we're
00:01:36.300 freeing Islam from these individuals, that's 1.00
00:01:38.300 the only thing, and when you said that, it reminded me of
00:01:40.300 the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, when a man came 0.99
00:01:42.180 and said, I want to commit sexual intercourse with 0.99
00:01:44.160 this, yeah? And the Prophet sat him down, and this 0.99
00:01:46.220 is, imagine, this is sexual intercourse, meaning
00:01:48.260 two people are consenting, let alone 0.84
00:01:51.880 not consenting and taking them
00:01:54.320 and exploiting them, yeah? The Prophet Muhammad 0.87
00:01:56.300 peace be upon him said, would you want that for your mum?
00:01:58.420 He said, no I wouldn't, would you want that for your daughter?
00:02:00.420 No, no, no, no, for your sister?
00:02:02.200 The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said, you wouldn't want 1.00
00:02:04.260 that for your own, yeah? Then why
00:02:06.440 would you do that? And this is two people
00:02:08.020 consenting, so let alone
00:02:10.340 somebody going and saying, you know what, I'm gonna
00:02:12.200 what, how would the Prophet act? And a kid 0.83
00:02:14.220 as well, because this is an issue
00:02:16.360 and it is happening
00:02:18.320 in certain communities, it's very
00:02:20.320 important that if you are a Muslim
00:02:22.100 or you're embroiled or you're around
00:02:24.340 this, there's a few things to understand, yeah?
00:02:26.440 Because one issue that people did say
00:02:28.220 was, certain communities want to
00:02:30.280 keep such issues hidden, yeah?
00:02:32.120 We can't go away from this fact, and it's very
00:02:34.300 important, Islamically, you shouldn't keep 1.00
00:02:36.240 it hidden, yeah? In fact, there's a very good verse
00:02:38.320 that comes to mind, chapter
00:02:39.560 chapter 4, verse 1, 3, 5
00:02:41.800 O you who believe, be
00:02:44.500 upholders of justice
00:02:45.860 witnesses for Allah, even if
00:02:48.400 it goes against yourselves
00:02:49.940 your parents or your family
00:02:52.060 so if you are a parent and your child is
00:02:54.460 embroiled in some
00:02:56.060 madness, it is your duty
00:02:58.260 to make sure they are brought to justice
00:03:00.360 yeah? You don't take them to the
00:03:02.240 side and say, no, don't worry, we'll just cover
00:03:04.160 it up or what not, this has to be brought
00:03:06.220 out, and just because someone
00:03:08.240 is white, black or brown or
00:03:10.200 whatever, Islam is the only 1.00
00:03:12.300 religion that overtly 0.99
00:03:14.080 clearly, in text
00:03:15.680 refutes racism, clearly
00:03:18.180 yeah? Clearly
00:03:19.360 so these perpetrators that are targeting
00:03:22.180 whites or whatever
00:03:23.980 this is against the Islamic 1.00
00:03:25.940 principle. There's no connection, there is no way
00:03:28.100 you can make a connection with Islam in this. It's antithetical 1.00
00:03:29.940 let's, we're going to watch a video which we're going to react to
00:03:32.120 hopefully, let's watch that and then
00:03:34.080 we're going to come to the statistics, etc, etc
00:03:35.980 that they're simply hard to believe
00:03:38.480 but this one is true
00:03:40.200 as many as one million
00:03:42.300 white English children may have 0.99
00:03:44.240 been the victims of Muslim rape 1.00
00:03:45.980 gangs, better known as grooming 1.00
00:03:48.180 gangs, in towns
00:03:50.120 up and down Great Britain
00:03:51.760 policy analyst George Igler
00:03:54.020 I mean when you encounter an issue that is
00:03:56.020 just so unbelievable
00:03:58.020 just so outside your frame of reference
00:04:00.020 and understanding the immediate human reaction
00:04:02.020 is just not want
00:04:04.020 to believe it at all. Perhaps even
00:04:06.020 harder to believe is that while there have been
00:04:08.020 prosecutions, British
00:04:10.020 authorities have still not stopped
00:04:12.020 this criminal activity
00:04:14.020 there's a particular problem involving
00:04:16.020 Pakistani heritage men
00:04:18.020 who target young vulnerable white
00:04:20.020 English girls, not my 1.00
00:04:22.020 words, but a member of parliament
00:04:24.020 Black Straw, who also said
00:04:26.020 these Pakistani heritage men
00:04:28.020 view white English girls as quote 0.99
00:04:30.020 easy meat
00:04:32.020 this is when some shout racism
00:04:34.020 but here are the facts
00:04:36.020 calculations based on convictions
00:04:38.020 show that a British Muslim male 0.76
00:04:40.020 is 170 times 0.81
00:04:42.020 more likely to be part of a sex 0.99
00:04:44.020 grooming gang than a non-muslim 1.00
00:04:46.020 and there are no recorded
00:04:48.020 instances of non-muslims doing 0.78
00:04:50.020 did you really just say
00:04:52.020 170 times?
00:04:54.020 let's keep that in mind
00:04:56.020 let's just carry on 0.98
00:04:57.020 doing this to Muslim girls 1.00
00:04:58.020 as part of a criminal enterprise
00:05:00.020 in one local jurisdiction
00:05:02.020 it was estimated that 6 out of 7
00:05:04.020 Muslim males either knew about 1.00
00:05:06.020 or were part of a grooming gang 0.95
00:05:08.020 what you do not have
00:05:10.020 is any example of
00:05:12.020 non-muslim men
00:05:14.020 targeting Muslim girls 0.99
00:05:16.020 for this organised form of abuse 0.97
00:05:18.020 so the argument that
00:05:20.020 this crime exists everywhere
00:05:22.020 is not only false
00:05:24.020 but is being deliberately
00:05:26.020 cultivated by the media
00:05:28.020 and by the government inquiry
00:05:30.020 that is kicking the can down the rows
00:05:32.020 the grooming gangs
00:05:34.020 ok let's stop there
00:05:36.020 so I heard key words
00:05:38.020 it started off with
00:05:39.020 Muslims and Tablay
00:05:40.020 then it was Pakistani
00:05:41.020 then I heard easy meat
00:05:42.020 meaning that
00:05:43.020 these individuals are targeting
00:05:44.020 because these girls are easy 1.00
00:05:46.020 and what this guy just said
00:05:48.020 oh 100 and
00:05:49.020 we're as Muslims
00:05:50.020 we are 170 times more likely
00:05:53.020 to do this
00:05:54.020 which is
00:05:55.020 I don't know what statistics
00:05:56.020 that's crazy
00:05:57.020 I don't know maybe
00:05:58.020 he got that from
00:06:00.020 I don't know maybe
00:06:01.020 he didn't do maths at school
00:06:02.020 is there Caucasian grooming gangs?
00:06:05.020 of course there are
00:06:06.020 ok ok let's
00:06:07.020 what's the percentage?
00:06:08.020 they say 38%
00:06:09.020 I think something like that
00:06:10.020 38% is Caucasian
00:06:12.020 the rest is all agencies
00:06:13.020 this is a fringe
00:06:14.020 this is a branch
00:06:15.020 that's been taken
00:06:16.020 of the umbrella
00:06:17.020 you were talking about
00:06:18.020 was child sex abuse 0.97
00:06:19.020 this grooming gangs 0.75
00:06:20.020 is one element
00:06:21.020 it's one little element
00:06:22.020 you can look at
00:06:23.020 50,000 people are watching
00:06:24.020 indecent child pictures online
00:06:26.020 you've got currently
00:06:28.020 261 celebrities
00:06:29.020 that are being
00:06:30.020 well investigated
00:06:31.020 for child sex abuse
00:06:33.020 you're seeing Scotland Yard
00:06:34.020 covering this up
00:06:35.020 ok
00:06:36.020 ok alright
00:06:37.020 so
00:06:38.020 38% Caucasian
00:06:39.020 and the rest is Asian 0.80
00:06:40.020 UK
00:06:41.020 no not the rest is Asian 0.71
00:06:42.020 there's 22% black
00:06:43.020 28% Asian
00:06:44.020 ok alright
00:06:45.020 no problem
00:06:46.020 what's in common?
00:06:47.020 the victims are?
00:06:48.020 a lot of the time
00:06:49.020 they say the victims are white
00:06:50.020 ok
00:06:51.020 ok
00:06:52.020 so then
00:06:53.020 we need to ask a question
00:06:54.020 why are the 0.66
00:06:55.020 Caucasian and the black men 0.74
00:06:56.020 going for white girls? 1.00
00:06:57.020 yeah so it could be
00:06:58.020 it could be a problem of race
00:06:59.020 it could be
00:07:00.020 no no no why why
00:07:01.020 no no no even the Caucasian 1.00
00:07:02.020 why are they going for their own race?
00:07:03.020 yeah that's a good point
00:07:04.020 no no why why
00:07:05.020 it's a question
00:07:06.020 because the thing is the victims
00:07:07.020 seems like it's a regular pattern
00:07:08.020 of victims
00:07:09.020 the perpetrators
00:07:10.020 are a mixture
00:07:11.020 so if the perpetrators are a mixture
00:07:13.020 and the victim is the same
00:07:14.020 how can you get a small group
00:07:16.020 and say look
00:07:17.020 victims
00:07:18.020 are the same
00:07:19.020 look these guys
00:07:21.020 do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:07:22.020 yeah yeah I get it
00:07:23.020 so because the thing is
00:07:24.020 it shows
00:07:25.020 it comes back to
00:07:26.020 easy meat
00:07:27.020 yeah?
00:07:28.020 easy meat
00:07:29.020 not only for the Asian group and gangs 0.72
00:07:30.020 violent animals
00:07:31.020 but the same with the perpetrators
00:07:32.020 black and white
00:07:33.020 they're doing the same thing
00:07:34.020 ok
00:07:35.020 what do we blame them for?
00:07:36.020 ok
00:07:37.020 ok
00:07:38.020 why does the Caucasians 1.00
00:07:39.020 the only difference is
00:07:40.020 why are they doing it?
00:07:41.020 right wingers
00:07:42.020 aren't as vocal
00:07:43.020 about
00:07:44.020 other races
00:07:45.020 or cultures
00:07:46.020 or religions
00:07:47.020 as they are about Muslims
00:07:48.020 ok
00:07:49.020 ok
00:07:50.020 why
00:07:51.020 so are they basically trying to say 0.97
00:07:52.020 that we are ok with our own kind raping our own kind 0.96
00:07:54.020 that's literally a quote of what they said 0.96
00:07:56.020 they said British crimes should be perpetrated by British people 1.00
00:08:01.020 what kind of a sick mind is that? 0.99
00:08:02.020 it should be 1.00
00:08:03.020 it should be
00:08:04.020 it should be
00:08:05.020 nobody should do it
00:08:06.020 let's deal with the second to last
00:08:07.020 the penultimate thing you just mentioned
00:08:09.020 the
00:08:10.020 the most recent
00:08:11.020 COP
00:08:12.020 which is the Child Exploration Online Protection Centre
00:08:14.020 they looked at 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008
00:08:20.020 and basically they found that 26% of those individuals were Asian
00:08:24.020 38% were white etc
00:08:25.020 now of the Asians in 2012 that 415 were of the Asians
00:08:30.020 there were 35 of which were Pakistani
00:08:33.020 so here
00:08:34.020 because he's mentioned Pakistanis right?
00:08:36.020 yes
00:08:37.020 what he said is actually factually incorrect
00:08:39.020 yeah
00:08:40.020 what he said according to the most authoritative body in this country that analyzes these statistics
00:08:46.020 is actually factually incorrect
00:08:48.020 and he's been allowed to get away with it
00:08:49.020 he said that this is a particular problem for Pakistanis
00:08:52.020 actually factually that's not correct
00:08:54.020 because only 35 of 415 Asians were Pakistani
00:08:58.020 5 of them were from Bangladesh
00:09:00.020 which means to say that 10%
00:09:02.020 and this is what people have said about this
00:09:05.020 10%
00:09:06.020 the Guardian has said 10%
00:09:08.020 of the Asians 0.96
00:09:09.020 were Muslim
00:09:10.020 so in other words
00:09:11.020 this is not a specific
00:09:12.020 it's not a specific Muslim problem as was suggested
00:09:14.020 as was suggested in the beginning
00:09:16.020 when they said it was a Muslim issue
00:09:17.020 now this is one point
00:09:19.020 the second point is really really important anyways
00:09:21.020 which is
00:09:22.020 the last thing he said
00:09:24.020 he said that this is not an issue
00:09:26.020 okay
00:09:27.020 which
00:09:28.020 relates to other races
00:09:29.020 which is completely false
00:09:30.020 when you look at it from an international perspective
00:09:32.020 the Polaris Project
00:09:34.020 which is one of the leading
00:09:36.020 once again authorities in this
00:09:37.020 conducted a survey
00:09:39.020 which using central
00:09:41.020 the Bureau of Central Statistics
00:09:43.020 in America's statistics
00:09:45.020 found that 77%
00:09:47.020 of Americans
00:09:49.020 being humanly
00:09:50.020 being human trafficked
00:09:51.020 like the human trafficking going on
00:09:53.020 are people of colour
00:09:54.020 are people of colour
00:09:55.020 so basically black people
00:09:56.020 people from Asia etc
00:09:57.020 and the people that are doing this the most
00:09:59.020 are in fact white people 0.96
00:10:01.020 so human trafficking in many ways 0.96
00:10:03.020 is more severe than grooming
00:10:04.020 because it's
00:10:05.020 literally selling slaves 0.82
00:10:06.020 for the purpose of sexual exploitation 0.82
00:10:08.020 yeah
00:10:09.020 this is happening
00:10:10.020 in the United States of America
00:10:12.020 more so
00:10:13.020 from white people
00:10:14.020 to the people of colour
00:10:15.020 than it is
00:10:16.020 happening in the UK
00:10:17.020 okay so I want to be
00:10:18.020 Tommy Robinson for a minute
00:10:19.020 yeah
00:10:20.020 I want to use that
00:10:21.020 because this is what exactly
00:10:22.020 he's doing yeah
00:10:23.020 yeah
00:10:24.020 you said to me in America
00:10:25.020 there's these Caucasian men 0.85
00:10:26.020 who are using coloured girls 1.00
00:10:27.020 they're selling them for sex 1.00
00:10:28.020 yeah 0.99
00:10:29.020 okay
00:10:30.020 okay
00:10:31.020 I'm going to put Tommy Robinson 0.89
00:10:32.020 in the brain
00:10:33.020 yeah
00:10:34.020 it's going to be hard for me to be him
00:10:35.020 alright
00:10:36.020 but
00:10:37.020 and okay
00:10:38.020 alright
00:10:39.020 is America a Christian country?
00:10:40.020 well the majority of Americans
00:10:41.020 according to the census
00:10:42.020 excuse me sir
00:10:43.020 so I'm Tommy Robinson
00:10:44.020 I just want a direct question
00:10:45.020 yeah so you would say yeah
00:10:46.020 it's a Christian country yeah
00:10:47.020 okay hold on a second
00:10:48.020 okay
00:10:49.020 they follow the bible?
00:10:50.020 the majority of them
00:10:51.020 are they Caucasian?
00:10:52.020 the majority of them
00:10:53.020 is exploitation happening?
00:10:54.020 yes
00:10:55.020 that's a Christian issue to me
00:10:57.020 so yeah
00:10:58.020 if you take the same
00:10:59.020 look
00:11:00.020 that's the thing
00:11:01.020 this is what's happening here
00:11:02.020 this is exactly what's happening
00:11:03.020 so
00:11:04.020 now I want you guys to understand this
00:11:05.020 this is the reason why
00:11:06.020 so would I have a right
00:11:07.020 to go to Tommy
00:11:08.020 and say
00:11:09.020 look mate
00:11:10.020 you're a Christian
00:11:11.020 probably a Christian yeah
00:11:12.020 I want you
00:11:13.020 this is your problem right now yeah
00:11:14.020 what are you going to do about it?
00:11:16.020 how would you feel?
00:11:17.020 well that's the point
00:11:18.020 this is the false premise here
00:11:20.020 that just because there's a correlation
00:11:22.020 there's a causation
00:11:23.020 and there's a difference between correlation
00:11:25.020 and causation
00:11:26.020 for example
00:11:27.020 if we did a study on obese people
00:11:29.020 yeah
00:11:30.020 obesity and depression
00:11:32.020 which I'm one
00:11:33.020 I am actually
00:11:34.020 you know
00:11:35.020 if we did a study on obesity and depression
00:11:37.020 right
00:11:38.020 yeah
00:11:39.020 and we picked up a sample of a hundred people
00:11:40.020 and we said that we want to find out
00:11:41.020 if obesity links to depression
00:11:43.020 okay
00:11:44.020 and we asked those individuals
00:11:45.020 are you depressed?
00:11:46.020 and some of them say
00:11:47.020 well the majority of them say yes
00:11:48.020 that's a correlation
00:11:49.020 but we have no right to judge that
00:11:50.020 the reason for the depression is obesity
00:11:52.020 because it could be
00:11:53.020 that it's depression
00:11:55.020 that leads to obesity
00:11:56.020 rather than obesity
00:11:57.020 that leads to depression
00:11:58.020 so correlations and causations
00:11:59.020 are two different things
00:12:00.020 you have to look holistically
00:12:02.020 at the situation
00:12:03.020 and one more thing
00:12:04.020 that I just wanted to mention quickly
00:12:05.020 was
00:12:06.020 the NSPCC
00:12:07.020 has said that 90%
00:12:09.020 because we talked about human trafficking
00:12:10.020 being a general sexual exploitation problem
00:12:12.020 but the NSPCC has said
00:12:14.020 in relation to children
00:12:16.020 that 90% of children
00:12:18.020 have been sexually abused
00:12:19.020 sexually abused
00:12:20.020 at one stage
00:12:21.020 by adults
00:12:22.020 and for the most part
00:12:23.020 these adults
00:12:24.020 it can't be Asians 1.00
00:12:25.020 because for the most part
00:12:26.020 they were their family members
00:12:27.020 right
00:12:28.020 so here we have
00:12:29.020 layers of problems
00:12:30.020 we have exploitation
00:12:31.020 which is one layer
00:12:32.020 general sexual exploitation
00:12:33.020 which is a problem in the West
00:12:35.020 it's a problem in the West
00:12:36.020 and it's not something
00:12:38.020 you can scape out to Muslim communities
00:12:40.020 or any other communities 0.97
00:12:41.020 you have a problem of sexual 0.56
00:12:43.020 child exploitation
00:12:44.020 which the NSPCC says
00:12:45.020 is reaching epidemic levels of 90%
00:12:48.020 right
00:12:49.020 and the majority of people
00:12:50.020 that are taking part of this
00:12:51.020 are people
00:12:52.020 you know
00:12:53.020 family members
00:12:54.020 doing it to their own children
00:12:55.020 or to their own nieces
00:12:56.020 or to their own
00:12:57.020 wherever it may be
00:12:58.020 this is happening
00:12:59.020 so 90% of these people
00:13:00.020 are in fact
00:13:01.020 they cannot be Muslim 1.00
00:13:02.020 by virtue of population 0.92
00:13:03.020 because Muslims
00:13:04.020 account for 5%
00:13:05.020 of the UK population
00:13:06.020 so
00:13:07.020 from these perspectives
00:13:08.020 it seems like
00:13:09.020 these narratives
00:13:10.020 what they're intentionally doing
00:13:12.020 is they're trying to sabotage
00:13:13.020 statistical information
00:13:14.020 in order to derive
00:13:15.020 some kind of false conclusion
00:13:17.020 about Muslim 0.99
00:13:18.020 depravity 1.00
00:13:19.020 in relation to sexual intercourse
00:13:21.020 or exploitation
00:13:22.020 yeah
00:13:23.020 no to be honest look
00:13:24.020 the fact that there's
00:13:25.020 non-Muslims
00:13:26.020 doing this or non-Asians 0.99
00:13:27.020 you need to bring an argument
00:13:28.020 where you're going to say
00:13:29.020 look here look everywhere
00:13:30.020 yeah
00:13:31.020 there's nobody but Asians and Muslims 0.53
00:13:32.020 then we will say you know what 0.82
00:13:33.020 okay there is a problem going on here
00:13:34.020 but anyways let's watch it
00:13:35.020 yeah
00:13:36.020 and then we're going to come to
00:13:37.020 you've got some things to say
00:13:38.020 yeah yeah yeah
00:13:39.020 but let's watch it
00:13:40.020 yeah
00:13:41.020 they've been traced back
00:13:42.020 as far as the late 1980s
00:13:44.020 at risk white English girls
00:13:46.020 often from broken homes
00:13:48.020 and some as young as 9 years old
00:13:50.020 were wooed or groomed
00:13:52.020 by teenage Muslim boys
00:13:54.020 called Romeos
00:13:55.020 and even by groups of Muslim men
00:13:58.020 who hung around school gates
00:14:00.020 the plan was to make the girl feel important 0.99
00:14:02.020 she was given gifts and drugs
00:14:05.020 but she was being groomed 0.99
00:14:06.020 to be a drug addicted prostitute 1.00
00:14:08.020 then came the gang rapes 1.00
00:14:10.020 the girls were threatened with death 0.80
00:14:12.020 if they tried to flee
00:14:14.020 it's not just sexual abuse
00:14:19.020 unspeakable levels of violence 0.73
00:14:21.020 victims being raped with knives
00:14:23.020 victims being raped with bottles 0.93
00:14:25.020 victims having their tongue nailed to tables
00:14:28.020 these are sometimes girls who are being 1.00
00:14:30.020 picked up from children's homes on a Friday
00:14:33.020 are being raped during the course of the weekend 0.80
00:14:36.020 by hundreds of men 0.99
00:14:38.020 and then returned with bleeding groins
00:14:39.020 back to the children's homes on a Monday morning
00:14:42.020 and they don't do anything about it at all
00:14:45.020 Christine's goddaughter was preyed on by the grooming gang 1.00
00:14:48.020 they pulled up by the side of her in cars
00:14:51.020 they tried to get her in the car 0.99
00:14:53.020 they were talking to her
00:14:54.020 come on come with us
00:14:55.020 we'll take you here
00:14:56.020 we'll take you there
00:14:57.020 were you saying that the authorities make it sound like
00:14:59.020 it's the English girls fault 1.00
00:15:01.020 yeah or the parents fault
00:15:03.020 it's your fault because you haven't got control of your child
00:15:07.020 if you are a young English girl particularly between the ages of 9 and 14 0.92
00:15:12.020 and you find yourself subject to the perversions of Muslim men 1.00
00:15:15.020 you effectively exist in a country where the forces of law and order don't exist at all
00:15:19.020 they've said Muslim way too many times
00:15:21.020 yes
00:15:22.020 you know if it was such a Muslim problem yeah 1.00
00:15:24.020 if you look at the top 5 countries in which rape is just the highest 0.98
00:15:30.020 yeah the top 5 countries
00:15:31.020 when it gets Pakistan 0.97
00:15:32.020 number 1 is the US
00:15:34.020 yeah and they are a majority Christian country
00:15:37.020 number 2 South Africa
00:15:39.020 oh really
00:15:40.020 majority Christian country
00:15:42.020 number 3 Sweden
00:15:44.020 wow
00:15:45.020 atheistic country
00:15:46.020 yeah
00:15:48.020 number 4
00:15:49.020 be careful when you go there
00:15:50.020 yeah
00:15:51.020 number 4 is India
00:15:53.020 Hindu country
00:15:54.020 and number 5
00:15:56.020 UK
00:15:57.020 which is atheist
00:15:58.020 slash Christian country 1.00
00:16:00.020 not one of them 0.99
00:16:01.020 are majority Muslim country
00:16:02.020 if this was such an issue
00:16:04.020 it would be
00:16:05.020 that one is on
00:16:06.020 just destroys the whole argument
00:16:08.020 but
00:16:09.020 if you look at the facts
00:16:11.020 no one credible
00:16:12.020 has mentioned religion
00:16:14.020 you don't have any credible research or peer reviewed journals
00:16:17.020 that has claimed with backed up research that it is a Muslim Islamic problem
00:16:21.020 number 1
00:16:22.020 no judge linked it to Islam
00:16:24.020 you have no victim that has linked it to Islam
00:16:27.020 no police report has linked it to Islam
00:16:30.020 so the question arises where on earth is this Muslim thing coming from? 0.99
00:16:34.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:35.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:36.020 apart from the fire art group
00:16:37.020 now if they are saying no it is a Muslim problem
00:16:40.020 you have to now conclude that
00:16:42.020 the police are wrong
00:16:43.020 the judicial system is wrong
00:16:45.020 the victims are wrong
00:16:46.020 the policing system is wrong
00:16:47.020 so
00:16:48.020 putting them all aside
00:16:49.020 yeah you can say oh the whole system is wrong
00:16:50.020 the victim
00:16:51.020 the victim would have come and said
00:16:52.020 you know what
00:16:53.020 these guys before they were doing it
00:16:54.020 I heard them talking about this verses of the Quran
00:16:56.020 and they were saying this
00:16:57.020 and you know
00:16:58.020 they were praying
00:16:59.020 they had the Quran open
00:17:00.020 yes yes yes
00:17:01.020 yeah no if they had the Quran open
00:17:02.020 they would not be doing that
00:17:03.020 another thing to equate it
00:17:04.020 like Asians 1.00
00:17:05.020 equals Muslims 0.99
00:17:06.020 then the whole of India Hindus 0.78
00:17:08.020 therefore become Muslim then 0.98
00:17:09.020 because they are Asian
00:17:10.020 I think the majority of Asians in this country are actually Indian
00:17:14.020 and I am not going to say the majority
00:17:16.020 but at least the vast
00:17:17.020 maybe the majority actually
00:17:18.020 the majority of Indians are actually Hindu
00:17:21.020 in this country
00:17:22.020 exactly
00:17:23.020 so again this term grooming gang
00:17:24.020 yeah let's not get sucked up in the media frenzy
00:17:26.020 because of the voice of the far rights
00:17:28.020 let's kind of okay
00:17:30.020 let's kind of just put that to the side
00:17:31.020 and academically let's look at this
00:17:33.020 grooming gangs
00:17:34.020 the term
00:17:35.020 where
00:17:36.020 what's the history
00:17:37.020 where is it from
00:17:38.020 yeah it's only come to
00:17:40.020 our screens in about 2003
00:17:42.020 what does that mean
00:17:43.020 that it didn't exist before 2003
00:17:45.020 it did exist
00:17:46.020 yeah
00:17:47.020 but because there was no minority
00:17:49.020 that was
00:17:50.020 that could be scapegoated
00:17:52.020 it wasn't kind of
00:17:53.020 put into the headlines
00:17:55.020 as it is now
00:17:56.020 it wasn't made into a separate category
00:17:57.020 you could say
00:17:58.020 exactly
00:17:59.020 I mean you have look
00:18:00.020 you can think of it this way
00:18:01.020 you have the umbrella of sexual exploitation
00:18:03.020 underneath the umbrella
00:18:04.020 you have different segments 0.86
00:18:05.020 so you have rape 1.00
00:18:06.020 you have child abuse 0.99
00:18:07.020 you have the
00:18:08.020 and sometimes obviously they link
00:18:09.020 trafficking
00:18:10.020 and a lot of times they will link with each other
00:18:13.020 and so what I think the problem with statistics
00:18:15.020 another problem we talked about the causality correlation problem
00:18:17.020 but there's another problem
00:18:18.020 which is that when you make your own category
00:18:20.020 sometimes you can do so with the intent of marginalizing a certain community
00:18:24.020 why don't we just talk about these problems generically
00:18:28.020 like for example human trafficking
00:18:29.020 why don't we talk about rape generally 0.95
00:18:31.020 generally
00:18:32.020 that's not going to be mentioned
00:18:33.020 because there's no minority to pender on
00:18:35.020 exactly
00:18:36.020 the grooming gangs thing
00:18:37.020 anytime you're told grooming gang or terrorist
00:18:39.020 who do you think of first
00:18:40.020 right
00:18:41.020 immediately now you think of Muslim
00:18:42.020 and that's what the EDL has been doing 0.69
00:18:44.020 immediately linking Muslim with grooming gang 0.87
00:18:47.020 Muslim with the word terrorist 0.99
00:18:49.020 yeah 0.98
00:18:50.020 human trafficking is an old term
00:18:51.020 yeah
00:18:52.020 prostitution
00:18:53.020 pimping 0.89
00:18:54.020 there are old terms for example
00:18:55.020 we were talking about pimping
00:18:56.020 yeah
00:18:57.020 11 Hungarians
00:18:58.020 have been caught trafficking and exploiting 250 women
00:19:01.020 yeah
00:19:02.020 one Brazilian has made about 150,000 from prostitution in the UK
00:19:07.020 but like you said
00:19:08.020 because this is a term
00:19:09.020 that's been there for quite a while
00:19:11.020 grooming gangs
00:19:12.020 this term hasn't
00:19:13.020 it's a
00:19:14.020 it's a relatively fresh term
00:19:15.020 so you can agree
00:19:16.020 yeah
00:19:17.020 it's untainted
00:19:18.020 so it has now been planted on the Muslims 0.99
00:19:20.020 and now because of what's been shown to us repetitively
00:19:23.020 it's being drilled into our subconscious
00:19:25.020 ok
00:19:26.020 let's
00:19:27.020 carry on
00:19:28.020 Stephen Lennon
00:19:29.020 also known as Tommy Robinson
00:19:31.020 former leader of the English Defence League
00:19:33.020 was just a young boy in the town of Luton
00:19:36.020 when he learned a family member had been victimised by a grooming gang
00:19:40.020 my cousin was raped 0.94
00:19:42.020 and she was found naked running from the Muslim community 0.91
00:19:46.020 age 13
00:19:47.020 police wouldn't help
00:19:48.020 running from the Muslim community 1.00
00:19:50.020 such big words like his
00:19:53.020 Muslim community
00:19:54.020 how many millions are there in this country
00:19:56.020 so she was running away from all the Muslims 0.99
00:19:59.020 that's what I'm saying
00:20:00.020 extreme
00:20:01.020 all the police would say is she's a drug addict 1.00
00:20:03.020 she was a drug addict 1.00
00:20:04.020 because they got her hooked on drugs after grooming and raping her 1.00
00:20:06.020 some say grooming gangs originate from a particular region of Pakistan 0.99
00:20:11.020 but others point out that the Quran encourages Muslims to take enemy women as sex slaves 0.99
00:20:17.020 and that Mohammed had sex with a nine year old wife 1.00
00:20:21.020 like for example Tommy Robinson 0.99
00:20:23.020 we don't have an issue with him
00:20:24.020 and we don't say to him
00:20:25.020 you know what
00:20:26.020 why are you going after these valuable individuals
00:20:28.020 these Pakistani 0.95
00:20:29.020 we don't have a problem with you going after them
00:20:32.020 I'm being honest with you
00:20:33.020 if you rang me today
00:20:34.020 and said look I'm going to go there
00:20:36.020 you come
00:20:37.020 I'll say look time and place
00:20:38.020 because the thing is
00:20:39.020 my issue is this
00:20:40.020 you're going there and making it seem a Muslim problem 0.80
00:20:43.020 my issue is that
00:20:45.020 when you go into these terrorist attacks that happen
00:20:46.020 you make it a Muslim problem 1.00
00:20:48.020 not you don't see it as 0.92
00:20:49.020 okay look this terrorism done
00:20:50.020 yes terrorism done
00:20:51.020 it's done by a variety of people from different backgrounds
00:20:54.020 you know what I'm trying to say
00:20:55.020 we don't have that issue with you
00:20:57.020 the issue is that you take things out of context
00:20:59.020 let me just address what he said here
00:21:00.020 because he made a couple of allegations
00:21:02.020 we said that with the
00:21:03.020 with that issue I think
00:21:04.020 the prophet's wife 0.75
00:21:06.020 me and you made a video
00:21:08.020 you'll put it in the description
00:21:09.020 yes yes yes
00:21:10.020 so that you guys can refer to that
00:21:11.020 but just quickly on the other issue
00:21:13.020 the other issue of what the right hand possesses
00:21:15.020 which is referred to in the Quran
00:21:16.020 now the thing is
00:21:17.020 you have to understand
00:21:18.020 that this is referring to prisoners of war
00:21:20.020 that actually is completely dependent upon
00:21:23.020 as you've mentioned
00:21:24.020 the social and political context
00:21:26.020 it does not apply in today's world
00:21:28.020 according to the consensus of the scholars
00:21:30.020 because now there is no such thing as prisoners of war
00:21:34.020 we're not in a state of war
00:21:35.020 and this is the reality
00:21:36.020 yeah
00:21:37.020 of the situation
00:21:38.020 so no one can use this as an example
00:21:39.020 now having said that
00:21:40.020 once again
00:21:41.020 as you correctly said
00:21:42.020 yeah
00:21:43.020 you correctly said that
00:21:44.020 basically in America
00:21:45.020 it's you could
00:21:46.020 you could argue
00:21:47.020 because the majority are actually Christian
00:21:48.020 that they follow
00:21:49.020 now I could
00:21:50.020 I could pull out 30
00:21:51.020 numbers 31 18
00:21:52.020 and say look
00:21:53.020 it says that
00:21:54.020 go and go into the town 1.00
00:21:55.020 and kill the 1.00
00:21:56.020 take the women as the young 1.00
00:21:57.020 the young girls as
00:21:58.020 as slaves
00:21:59.020 and I can say look
00:22:00.020 this is linked to this
00:22:01.020 so
00:22:02.020 most Christians would object to that
00:22:04.020 and rightfully so
00:22:05.020 and rightfully so
00:22:06.020 they say listen this is no cause
00:22:07.020 alayhi here
00:22:08.020 exactly
00:22:09.020 why because actually I don't think they're inspired by this
00:22:10.020 the same thing would apply with us
00:22:12.020 I bet you they don't eat
00:22:13.020 they don't even know this verse
00:22:15.020 I bet you not a single would say you know what I did what I did why
00:22:18.020 because I challenge you look I'm being very clear cut here
00:22:21.020 yeah
00:22:22.020 they would not same way with these guys I'm sorry yeah
00:22:24.020 looking at their lifestyle and what they're doing
00:22:26.020 you are far from like I'm sorry you are far from what Islam teaches 1.00
00:22:30.020 and this is why you're doing why do you think
00:22:32.020 let me ask you a question
00:22:33.020 why do you think these men are doing what they're doing 0.99
00:22:35.020 why why because here it was used that easy target
00:22:38.020 yeah
00:22:39.020 to me it seems they're like
00:22:40.020 whichever one's an easy target
00:22:41.020 yeah
00:22:42.020 the issue here
00:22:43.020 the word that we need to understand is
00:22:44.020 easy
00:22:45.020 they're looking for easy target
00:22:46.020 easy yeah
00:22:47.020 do you get it?
00:22:48.020 yeah 0.98
00:22:49.020 and if that easy target is a black girls 1.00
00:22:50.020 they're gonna go for black girls 1.00
00:22:51.020 if it's Muslim girls 1.00
00:22:52.020 they're gonna go for Muslim girls 1.00
00:22:53.020 if it's white girls 1.00
00:22:54.020 which what they're doing
00:22:55.020 the most that you can say you know what 0.81
00:22:56.020 these guys are racist
00:22:57.020 yeah 0.99
00:22:58.020 do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:22:59.020 you know what's interesting as well
00:23:00.020 is that this news report
00:23:01.020 is kind of contradicting itself
00:23:03.020 first it's talking about
00:23:04.020 how these people are addicted to drugs
00:23:06.020 to drugs and these kind of things
00:23:08.020 and then they're not only addicted to drugs
00:23:09.020 but they actually supply it for the people
00:23:11.020 that they groom
00:23:12.020 yeah
00:23:13.020 but at the same time they're meant to represent
00:23:14.020 an orthodox strand of Islam
00:23:16.020 it's two opposites
00:23:17.020 or an extremist form of Islam even
00:23:19.020 yeah
00:23:20.020 so having said that
00:23:21.020 it doesn't make any sense
00:23:22.020 because there's no interpretation
00:23:23.020 not even the extremist
00:23:24.020 abhorrent ISIS interpretation of Islam
00:23:26.020 that allows for example 0.96
00:23:28.020 the consumption of intoxicants
00:23:29.020 so here we don't see
00:23:31.020 what do you want us to believe here
00:23:32.020 there's no correlation
00:23:33.020 there is no causation
00:23:34.020 because somebody's just trying to connect it
00:23:36.020 yeah
00:23:37.020 like you have to try hard
00:23:38.020 to connect it
00:23:39.020 and it's all based on emotions
00:23:40.020 statistics doesn't show it
00:23:41.020 scripture doesn't show it
00:23:42.020 yeah
00:23:43.020 now you guys said numbers
00:23:44.020 now if we look at Romania
00:23:45.020 yeah
00:23:46.020 Romania is 98% Christian
00:23:48.020 yeah
00:23:49.020 there was an issue of a Romanian paedophile
00:23:51.020 who groomed 10 kids
00:23:52.020 yeah
00:23:53.020 now
00:23:55.020 is that now a Christian problem? 0.97
00:23:57.020 why was there no mention
00:23:58.020 of the word Christian
00:23:59.020 in any of the articles
00:24:01.020 or news coverage
00:24:02.020 now if you look at say Poland
00:24:04.020 94% Christian
00:24:06.020 yeah
00:24:07.020 country
00:24:08.020 same issue happened
00:24:09.020 no mention of the word
00:24:10.020 Christian
00:24:11.020 you know
00:24:12.020 even in Hungary
00:24:13.020 yeah
00:24:14.020 there was a grooming gang
00:24:15.020 who exploited hundreds of women
00:24:16.020 yeah
00:24:17.020 hundreds of women 0.97
00:24:18.020 for 6 years
00:24:20.020 hundreds
00:24:21.020 of women for 6 years 0.54
00:24:23.020 where did they get this from?
00:24:24.020 yeah
00:24:25.020 now
00:24:26.020 they are
00:24:27.020 over 50% of the country is Christian
00:24:28.020 yeah
00:24:29.020 majority Christian nation
00:24:30.020 are you going to link that to Christianity then?
00:24:33.020 Jimmy Savo
00:24:34.020 yeah
00:24:35.020 Jimmy Savo was
00:24:36.020 he had a Roman Catholic upbringing
00:24:38.020 his religion
00:24:39.020 isn't getting mentioned
00:24:40.020 the texts aren't being scrutinised
00:24:42.020 verses aren't being taken out of context
00:24:44.020 you take someone like Richard Huckle
00:24:46.020 who was a practicing Christian
00:24:47.020 from Kent
00:24:48.020 and he went to Malaysia
00:24:50.020 abusing kids 0.94
00:24:51.020 his religion
00:24:52.020 that was the purpose of his visit
00:24:54.020 his religion wasn't brought up
00:24:56.020 Bible texts weren't taken 0.99
00:24:58.020 and the Christian community
00:25:00.020 weren't told
00:25:01.020 to apologise for these acts
00:25:03.020 yeah
00:25:04.020 these are majority
00:25:05.020 Romania, Poland, Hungary
00:25:06.020 in fact
00:25:07.020 the thing is
00:25:08.020 the danger is
00:25:09.020 when you monopolise
00:25:10.020 to a particular colour
00:25:11.020 or religion
00:25:12.020 yeah
00:25:13.020 what you are now doing
00:25:14.020 is
00:25:15.020 you're painting
00:25:16.020 the perpetrators
00:25:17.020 of a certain colour
00:25:18.020 and a faith
00:25:19.020 which gives a free pass
00:25:21.020 to the others
00:25:22.020 that's why initially
00:25:23.020 the police failed to do so
00:25:24.020 the West
00:25:25.020 because of its power structures
00:25:27.020 and its elite
00:25:28.020 being on top in the media
00:25:29.020 and all those kind of things
00:25:30.020 he says that
00:25:31.020 you're always going to have
00:25:32.020 in the West
00:25:33.020 the bad guy
00:25:34.020 so as you mentioned correctly 0.98
00:25:35.020 before you had the black guys 1.00
00:25:36.020 the Jews 0.97
00:25:38.020 in Europe
00:25:40.020 actually there was
00:25:41.020 a Jewish problem in Europe 0.95
00:25:42.020 then you have
00:25:43.020 what do you call it
00:25:44.020 then you have
00:25:45.020 Russians
00:25:46.020 Russians, Japanese 0.99
00:25:47.020 all of these individuals
00:25:48.020 had their turn
00:25:49.020 who do you think
00:25:50.020 is going to be next
00:25:51.020 I think the Koreans 1.00
00:25:52.020 but if these people
00:25:54.020 are more responsible
00:25:55.020 and like you said
00:25:56.020 if they are just
00:25:57.020 and they go to
00:25:58.020 Christian perpetrators 0.99
00:25:59.020 they go to white 1.00
00:26:00.020 black perpetrators 1.00
00:26:01.020 they will be more just 0.99
00:26:02.020 and if you are just
00:26:03.020 you can tackle this issue
00:26:04.020 head on
00:26:05.020 now we're not saying that
00:26:06.020 Asians or Muslims 0.77
00:26:07.020 they are exempt from this
00:26:08.020 we're saying
00:26:09.020 look if it is an issue
00:26:10.020 go for it
00:26:11.020 but wherever this issue
00:26:12.020 is arising
00:26:13.020 deal with it holistically
00:26:15.020 don't just deal
00:26:16.020 with fringe elements
00:26:17.020 if it's happening
00:26:18.020 with MPs
00:26:19.020 and it's been covered up
00:26:20.020 deal with it
00:26:21.020 if things are happening
00:26:22.020 online
00:26:23.020 deal with it
00:26:24.020 we're asking
00:26:25.020 Tommy Robinson
00:26:26.020 look we're not even asking
00:26:27.020 you to find us
00:26:28.020 we will come to you
00:26:29.020 no problem
00:26:30.020 we've said this before
00:26:31.020 we'll say it again yeah
00:26:32.020 look you're going to people
00:26:33.020 who can't speak English properly
00:26:34.020 etc. we're saying to you
00:26:35.020 look why don't you come
00:26:36.020 and talk to one of us
00:26:37.020 all your arguments
00:26:38.020 the prophet marrying Aisha at 9 0.98
00:26:39.020 these sexes
00:26:40.020 whatever you claim
00:26:41.020 no problem
00:26:42.020 why don't you come
00:26:43.020 and talk to us
00:26:44.020 because you know
00:26:45.020 it will be your intellectual burial
00:26:46.020 because you know
00:26:47.020 intellectual you'll be buried
00:26:48.020 because this is what
00:26:49.020 this is what you thrive on
00:26:50.020 putting terror
00:26:51.020 in the people's hearts
00:26:52.020 and you're making money off that
00:26:53.020 he's perfect
00:26:54.020 Tommy wrote a book recently
00:26:55.020 didn't he
00:26:56.020 yeah yeah yeah
00:26:57.020 there you go
00:26:58.020 he's writing books about Muslims 0.96
00:26:59.020 no it's crazy 0.98
00:27:00.020 it's like Hitler writing a book 0.90
00:27:01.020 on the Old Testament
00:27:02.020 yeah
00:27:03.020 no no no
00:27:04.020 but
00:27:05.020 I'm not saying he's
00:27:06.020 as bad as him
00:27:07.020 yeah yeah
00:27:08.020 come on man 1.00
00:27:09.020 he's ridiculous 0.99
00:27:10.020 moreover 0.99
00:27:11.020 let me just not
00:27:12.020 I don't want to humiliate
00:27:13.020 anyone here
00:27:14.020 he humiliates himself
00:27:15.020 you don't need to
00:27:16.020 no the point is like
00:27:17.020 someone who might not even have
00:27:18.020 formal GCSE qualifications
00:27:19.020 I mean I don't even know
00:27:20.020 if he's got a C grade
00:27:21.020 in maths and english
00:27:22.020 someone like that
00:27:23.020 writing an academic piece
00:27:24.020 on Islam
00:27:25.020 a religion
00:27:26.020 which he has no idea about
00:27:27.020 in a language
00:27:28.020 which he has not
00:27:29.020 it doesn't have to
00:27:30.020 write his own name in
00:27:31.020 so guys
00:27:32.020 hope you guys have benefited
00:27:33.020 that's about it really
00:27:34.020 do share this with your friends and family
00:27:35.020 and non muslim as well
00:27:36.020 that's it