Ali Dawah - February 07, 2020
MUSLIMS REACTING TO ISIS ATTACKER - STREATHAM ATTACK
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the terror attack that happened in Streatham, London on 7/7/2019, and how we can prevent copycat attacks happening across the UK. We also discuss the role of extremists within our own religion, and the role they play in perpetuating the ideology of terrorism.
Transcript
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it means they had two people on him as he's stepping out the house like i don't understand
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like i believe if that person is why is he let out i do not understand why is he let out if you
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know the guy is dangerous you know he's going to cause this and you've got two guys on in fact in
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order for me to not prove them wrong and stand up i have to go and be like yes let's go and kill
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them you're perverted because my teacher is allah and his messenger your teacher is bush and george
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bush and tony blair because you're seeing they're doing it to us we'll do the same
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as we know there was an attack terror attack that happened in streatham um yesterday
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and what we want to do is like we want to go into this person's mind yeah because there's
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copycat attacks happening yeah and they're all carrying these fake i think even before that
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we should give our condolences to yes of course 100 family of those affected yes and and and to
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to be honest the community as a whole yes yes definitely you know and uh for some reason he
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picked uh an uh a area which there is a lot of muslims in there as well uh so i wouldn't be
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surprised of some casualties of muslims it's regardless but i'm saying you know because
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these people they're they're on such a level of uh fanatism that i don't think they see
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muslims to them all of us we are all in the same camp we we are i mean a lot of the time in my course
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online islam plus yeah it's called extremism islam it's about to be released soon can you tell us a
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little bit about that so extremism islam is a textual approach i go through um the ideological
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underpinnings of theological justifications that's why many of these people do what they do
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um the course is run to two parts the first part uh deals with things like for example um um do all
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muslims uh all muslims commanded to fight and kill the non-believers the non-muslims that's a common
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thing this is probably what he believed as well allah knows best yeah many of them do especially
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isis and al-qaeda and the like uh and i deal with other uh texts and things that are used by these
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people to promote and to justify their belief their discourse such as the verse of the sword or the
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verses of the sword uh also the hadith for nabi sallallahu alayhi wa sallam where he says
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i've been ordered to command that to fight the people until they believe that there's no way
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except allah so on and so forth and a lot of these kind of things the second part of the course
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it really concerns muslims um themselves uh so it's an inter-muslim kind of discussion and really
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the whole discussion is centered on takfir and the concept of takfir or excommunication and taking
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one and rendering someone outside the fold of islam because it's used by a lot of the extremist
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groups as a tool of justification to justify spilling the blood of a muslim let alone a muslim
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we deal with that the previous course uh the previous part of the course and so inshallah
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will be coming out soon hopefully next week or even before so that's an online platform salam plus
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which you can come and sign up for free salam plus.org.uk and learn inshallah inshallah if you
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guys there's anyone watching this and sadly has been brainwashed by thinking that carrying out these
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attacks on innocent civilians is going to somehow help islam you're doing an absolute disservice to us
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you're uh misrepresenting our religion you are actually maybe a part reason why our religion
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is being attacked so absolutely you know please if you can watch this inshallah and maybe hopefully
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come to your senses and um not taking innocent lives so let's just quickly react to um this video from
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two men in plain clothes pointing guns one swaps his beanie hat for a police cap
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and lying before them on a high street in south london is the suspect
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strapped to his body what looks like a device it's a hoax
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then more arrive they're there within minutes because the suspect they've just killed
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had been under their watch and this is the end of a police surveillance operation
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several people had been stabbed by the suspect some were treated by passers-by who saw the horror
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on a sunday afternoon another person got stabbed down here as well uh massive bright orange trauma
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helicopter land on the common right in front of us and then there were uh police and ambulances uh
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driving about and we had assumed that there had been a car accident and that that's what all the
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things all the people there for and then we walked up this road just here and came to sort of about there
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and uh there were armed police everywhere there were people everywhere um the armed police looked
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like they were crouching down over someone i don't know if that's what they were doing
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um and then they started shouting at us all to get back um and just pushing us further down the road
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itv news understands the suspect was 21 year old sudesh a man who was released from prison one week ago
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he was jailed in 2018 after admitting 13 terror offenses and expressing a desire to carry out his own
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terror attack so so why okay this is the question that first needs to be asked before we go into his
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or go into this guy's mind um so like how would they how were they letting out this guy when he's
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clearly been he's been has said that he'd want to carry that carry out this attack i think is you don't know
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if he if he said this whilst in prison whilst in his sentence okay and a lot of the times i mean
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when i was in prison i saw all sorts of offenders okay one thing you're in prison people are going
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to think okay what are you talking about i was in prison for those who don't know my past go on to um
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watch my podcast with delhi hussein on the blood brothers podcast uh also we did one at salam
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so it's called i used to be radical so i i was convicted previously back in 2000 it was about 12 years
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ago 2008 for terror offense uh i was initially planning to go to afghanistan and i discuss it in those
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podcasts the reasons why my psychology at the time so but maybe people don't want to go to that
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podcast let's just just just a brief like let's ask yourself like what what led you to take that
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path because you're not coming from this because this guy wants anyone's blood absolutely you was
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more of um yeah like invading forces absolutely invading forces oppression on the muslims like i felt
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that the muslims were being victimized or being attacked and no one was there to defend them no one was
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there to to protect them protect their honor so on and so forth yeah um and i found identical
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justification to allow myself to travel and to promote myself to travel and to to try and um
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and take and join the armed forces there and so on and so forth that was it in a nutshell but what
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happened i mean you didn't make it obviously you got arrested of course yeah so i mean well not well
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yeah when i was in circuit then i came back and i got arrested the rest is history right um now with me i i
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saw i saw i saw the oppression that was taking place and i felt that there was no one there to
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support those protect the muslims protect the rise of the muslims and i found that i became slowly
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alienated from society from the mainstream muslims i felt that that no one was talking i felt our
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scholars weren't talking about it and everyone was quiet and and i found i'm obviously i kind of
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mentioned there but i'm a person who when i see injustices i can't i can't yeah i can't i can't deal
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with it right a lot of people a lot of people like this and i think it's a good character uh how it has to be
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challenged in the right way um and so i i secluded myself online i found a safe space i found people
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that i could communicate with online and we know that and there's a lot of research to suggest
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although there's nothing conclusive but online if it doesn't promote extremism or promote the
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radicalization of people it definitely fosters it so it creates a safe environment yes and this is
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research that was just coming out but i experienced it myself all right so i can i can i can testify to
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that um and i and i found that i slowly started to speak to like my people people treaties books were
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exchanged and people espousing these kind of views were exchanged so on and so forth i still at that
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time i wouldn't say that i became a what's known now as it is i wouldn't make it clear on everyone
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and all the muslims communication i wouldn't say that muslims are non-muslim and even justifying
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their bloodline exactly so i never kind of fell into that nor did i fall into the extremes of what
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this person was either does that make sense it was literally a case for me that i believed it was
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justified to go out there and to join the forces to fight against the rebelling army and that was it
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and i think it's a blessing from allah i didn't get that far uh because to be honest with you if i
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did get that far then you know allah knows best right um we see the results of this kind of dangerous
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ideology yeah and so that's my show from i'm not sure i don't want to take away from the viewers let
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them go watch the we'll put the links to the to the podcast insha'Allah all right