Ali Dawah - February 07, 2020


MUSLIMS REACTING TO ISIS ATTACKER - STREATHAM ATTACK


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

206.60805

Word Count

1,778

Sentence Count

3

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the terror attack that happened in Streatham, London on 7/7/2019, and how we can prevent copycat attacks happening across the UK. We also discuss the role of extremists within our own religion, and the role they play in perpetuating the ideology of terrorism.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 it means they had two people on him as he's stepping out the house like i don't understand
00:00:05.000 like i believe if that person is why is he let out i do not understand why is he let out if you
00:00:12.980 know the guy is dangerous you know he's going to cause this and you've got two guys on in fact in
00:00:17.160 order for me to not prove them wrong and stand up i have to go and be like yes let's go and kill
00:00:22.800 them you're perverted because my teacher is allah and his messenger your teacher is bush and george
00:00:29.760 bush and tony blair because you're seeing they're doing it to us we'll do the same
00:00:33.020 as we know there was an attack terror attack that happened in streatham um yesterday
00:01:02.160 and what we want to do is like we want to go into this person's mind yeah because there's
00:01:08.920 copycat attacks happening yeah and they're all carrying these fake i think even before that
00:01:12.160 we should give our condolences to yes of course 100 family of those affected yes and and and to
00:01:18.180 to be honest the community as a whole yes yes definitely you know and uh for some reason he
00:01:22.380 picked uh an uh a area which there is a lot of muslims in there as well uh so i wouldn't be
00:01:28.160 surprised of some casualties of muslims it's regardless but i'm saying you know because
00:01:32.220 these people they're they're on such a level of uh fanatism that i don't think they see
00:01:37.660 muslims to them all of us we are all in the same camp we we are i mean a lot of the time in my course
00:01:43.440 online islam plus yeah it's called extremism islam it's about to be released soon can you tell us a
00:01:47.480 little bit about that so extremism islam is a textual approach i go through um the ideological
00:01:52.400 underpinnings of theological justifications that's why many of these people do what they do
00:01:56.740 um the course is run to two parts the first part uh deals with things like for example um um do all
00:02:02.300 muslims uh all muslims commanded to fight and kill the non-believers the non-muslims that's a common
00:02:07.320 thing this is probably what he believed as well allah knows best yeah many of them do especially
00:02:10.740 isis and al-qaeda and the like uh and i deal with other uh texts and things that are used by these
00:02:15.880 people to promote and to justify their belief their discourse such as the verse of the sword or the
00:02:20.820 verses of the sword uh also the hadith for nabi sallallahu alayhi wa sallam where he says
00:02:24.140 i've been ordered to command that to fight the people until they believe that there's no way
00:02:28.760 except allah so on and so forth and a lot of these kind of things the second part of the course
00:02:32.940 it really concerns muslims um themselves uh so it's an inter-muslim kind of discussion and really
00:02:40.360 the whole discussion is centered on takfir and the concept of takfir or excommunication and taking
00:02:45.620 one and rendering someone outside the fold of islam because it's used by a lot of the extremist
00:02:49.620 groups as a tool of justification to justify spilling the blood of a muslim let alone a muslim
00:02:54.720 we deal with that the previous course uh the previous part of the course and so inshallah
00:02:58.080 will be coming out soon hopefully next week or even before so that's an online platform salam plus
00:03:01.380 which you can come and sign up for free salam plus.org.uk and learn inshallah inshallah if you
00:03:05.380 guys there's anyone watching this and sadly has been brainwashed by thinking that carrying out these
00:03:10.500 attacks on innocent civilians is going to somehow help islam you're doing an absolute disservice to us
00:03:15.600 you're uh misrepresenting our religion you are actually maybe a part reason why our religion
00:03:20.480 is being attacked so absolutely you know please if you can watch this inshallah and maybe hopefully
00:03:24.980 come to your senses and um not taking innocent lives so let's just quickly react to um this video from
00:03:31.540 my tv news
00:03:32.200 two men in plain clothes pointing guns one swaps his beanie hat for a police cap
00:03:42.020 it's now clear they're undercover officers
00:03:46.420 and lying before them on a high street in south london is the suspect
00:03:53.780 gone down twice
00:03:55.300 strapped to his body what looks like a device it's a hoax
00:04:04.580 the police clear the streets
00:04:10.340 then more arrive they're there within minutes because the suspect they've just killed
00:04:16.820 had been under their watch and this is the end of a police surveillance operation
00:04:21.140 several people had been stabbed by the suspect some were treated by passers-by who saw the horror
00:04:30.420 on a sunday afternoon another person got stabbed down here as well uh massive bright orange trauma
00:04:37.780 helicopter land on the common right in front of us and then there were uh police and ambulances uh
00:04:43.300 driving about and we had assumed that there had been a car accident and that that's what all the
00:04:48.180 things all the people there for and then we walked up this road just here and came to sort of about there
00:04:52.980 and uh there were armed police everywhere there were people everywhere um the armed police looked
00:04:59.060 like they were crouching down over someone i don't know if that's what they were doing
00:05:02.260 um and then they started shouting at us all to get back um and just pushing us further down the road
00:05:08.580 itv news understands the suspect was 21 year old sudesh a man who was released from prison one week ago
00:05:15.940 he was jailed in 2018 after admitting 13 terror offenses and expressing a desire to carry out his own
00:05:24.260 terror attack so so why okay this is the question that first needs to be asked before we go into his
00:05:28.820 or go into this guy's mind um so like how would they how were they letting out this guy when he's
00:05:36.420 clearly been he's been has said that he'd want to carry that carry out this attack i think is you don't know
00:05:41.700 if he if he said this whilst in prison whilst in his sentence okay and a lot of the times i mean
00:05:46.660 when i was in prison i saw all sorts of offenders okay one thing you're in prison people are going
00:05:50.660 to think okay what are you talking about i was in prison for those who don't know my past go on to um
00:05:54.260 watch my podcast with delhi hussein on the blood brothers podcast uh also we did one at salam
00:05:58.500 so it's called i used to be radical so i i was convicted previously back in 2000 it was about 12 years
00:06:02.660 ago 2008 for terror offense uh i was initially planning to go to afghanistan and i discuss it in those
00:06:08.340 podcasts the reasons why my psychology at the time so but maybe people don't want to go to that
00:06:11.540 podcast let's just just just a brief like let's ask yourself like what what led you to take that
00:06:18.660 path because you're not coming from this because this guy wants anyone's blood absolutely you was
00:06:23.220 more of um yeah like invading forces absolutely invading forces oppression on the muslims like i felt
00:06:29.700 that the muslims were being victimized or being attacked and no one was there to defend them no one was
00:06:34.020 there to to protect them protect their honor so on and so forth yeah um and i found identical
00:06:38.820 justification to allow myself to travel and to promote myself to travel and to to try and um
00:06:43.860 and take and join the armed forces there and so on and so forth that was it in a nutshell but what
00:06:48.500 happened i mean you didn't make it obviously you got arrested of course yeah so i mean well not well
00:06:53.300 yeah when i was in circuit then i came back and i got arrested the rest is history right um now with me i i
00:06:59.300 saw i saw i saw the oppression that was taking place and i felt that there was no one there to
00:07:04.100 support those protect the muslims protect the rise of the muslims and i found that i became slowly
00:07:08.340 alienated from society from the mainstream muslims i felt that that no one was talking i felt our
00:07:12.180 scholars weren't talking about it and everyone was quiet and and i found i'm obviously i kind of
00:07:16.580 mentioned there but i'm a person who when i see injustices i can't i can't yeah i can't i can't deal
00:07:20.580 with it right a lot of people a lot of people like this and i think it's a good character uh how it has to be
00:07:25.220 challenged in the right way um and so i i secluded myself online i found a safe space i found people
00:07:30.420 that i could communicate with online and we know that and there's a lot of research to suggest
00:07:34.420 although there's nothing conclusive but online if it doesn't promote extremism or promote the
00:07:39.700 radicalization of people it definitely fosters it so it creates a safe environment yes and this is
00:07:43.940 research that was just coming out but i experienced it myself all right so i can i can i can testify to
00:07:48.260 that um and i and i found that i slowly started to speak to like my people people treaties books were
00:07:53.300 exchanged and people espousing these kind of views were exchanged so on and so forth i still at that
00:07:57.940 time i wouldn't say that i became a what's known now as it is i wouldn't make it clear on everyone
00:08:02.740 and all the muslims communication i wouldn't say that muslims are non-muslim and even justifying
00:08:08.580 their bloodline exactly so i never kind of fell into that nor did i fall into the extremes of what
00:08:12.340 this person was either does that make sense it was literally a case for me that i believed it was
00:08:16.180 justified to go out there and to join the forces to fight against the rebelling army and that was it
00:08:19.700 and i think it's a blessing from allah i didn't get that far uh because to be honest with you if i
00:08:23.140 did get that far then you know allah knows best right um we see the results of this kind of dangerous
00:08:29.220 ideology yeah and so that's my show from i'm not sure i don't want to take away from the viewers let
00:08:32.740 them go watch the we'll put the links to the to the podcast insha'Allah all right