Ali Dawah - December 13, 2023


PIERS MORGANS ＂APOLOGY＂ TO MUSLIM WOMAN - MUSLIMS REACT


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7 minutes

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1,589

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121

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Misogyny

11

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Toxicity

8

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Hate speech

15

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Why do so many women become Muslim these days because they want to be oppressed? Is that what it means to be a feminist? What does that mean and why does it matter to the West? Is it a good or bad thing that women who want to convert to Islam should do so for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?

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00:00:00.000 Why do so many women become Muslim these days? 1.00
00:00:02.600 Because they want to be oppressed.
00:00:03.980 Is that what you're going to tell me?
00:00:04.700 No, no.
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00:00:22.780 Why do so many women become Muslim these days? 1.00
00:00:25.320 Because they want to be oppressed.
00:00:26.640 Is that what you're going to tell me?
00:00:27.380 No, no.
00:00:27.960 Why do so many...
00:00:28.960 Because they want to be oppressed.
00:00:30.000 Why do women in the world become Muslim these days? 1.00
00:00:32.800 You tell me. 0.74
00:00:33.960 You better ask them.
00:00:35.280 Why don't you tell me what you think?
00:00:36.600 They seem to find it something that attracts them, Islam.
00:00:39.600 Really?
00:00:39.980 Yeah.
00:00:40.440 I don't suggest for a moment that women who want to convert to Islam
00:00:45.180 should do so for any other than perfectly good reasons.
00:00:49.280 I have no problem with Islam as a religion or with Muslims.
00:00:52.660 I have a problem.
00:00:54.020 So here's where I have a problem with this guy.
00:00:55.800 Here is the fact that why is there a connotation or an insinuation
00:01:00.900 of oppression with Muslim women coming to Islam?
00:01:05.600 Why didn't he say, oh, do you want them to be more happy?
00:01:08.500 Do you want them to be liberated?
00:01:09.860 Why was the word oppression used?
00:01:11.020 That's what I'm curious about.
00:01:12.380 Yeah.
00:01:12.500 Where's that coming from?
00:01:13.540 Because he said, I know...
00:01:14.640 Remember he said, I know what Sharia law wants for a woman. 1.00
00:01:17.080 Exactly.
00:01:17.540 And then he follows that message.
00:01:19.300 And he saves himself with the question of, oh, is that what you want?
00:01:22.420 Exactly.
00:01:22.760 Which would be absurd, really, because why would he want that as a Muslim himself? 0.94
00:01:26.440 And then why did he mention those three things?
00:01:29.160 When he said he knows about Sharia, is that what he knows about Sharia?
00:01:33.840 Because surely that's not a comprehensive...
00:01:35.860 Yeah, but even what he said is false because he said, I mean, what interpretation of Sharia law
00:01:41.700 suggests that there should be no feminist in a polity that's run by it anyway? 1.00
00:01:47.120 Like, what does it mean?
00:01:48.140 So, for example, let's think about it for a second.
00:01:50.380 If you have a polity and you have women inside of that polity, whether they be Muslim women
00:01:55.160 or non-Muslim women, would they have to be forcibly exiled for having those beliefs? 1.00
00:01:59.920 Where does it ever mention that in the books of fiqh and jurisprudence?
00:02:03.120 So, he doesn't know about Sharia law.
00:02:05.060 Exactly.
00:02:05.240 He says, I do know about it, but he's got a journalism degree.
00:02:09.620 He doesn't know much about Sharia law.
00:02:11.360 And he's made all these assumptions, asked all these kind of unjust questions, frankly.
00:02:17.840 And he's coming back and saying, actually, I'm not anti-Muslim, I'm not anti-Islam,
00:02:22.860 perfectly good reasons and all those kind of things.
00:02:24.940 He's backtracking.
00:02:26.000 To me, I needed asking, what's the definition of oppression?
00:02:29.580 Because I believe that if you can reduce women down to a sexual object, 0.99
00:02:33.420 where the only thing that they have to offer is sex. 0.95
00:02:35.620 Because if you think about it, at the end of the day, if I want to go and relieve myself, 0.94
00:02:40.900 I go to the toilet.
00:02:42.060 That's what I do.
00:02:42.600 I go to the toilet to relieve myself.
00:02:43.920 We all do. 0.59
00:02:44.360 And if you look at it, the Western system has sexualized women to such a level, 1.00
00:02:49.320 it's as if, to their worldview, as if they are walking toilets where men can just relieve 0.99
00:02:54.080 themselves inside of them, like one night stands, using them and chucking them.
00:02:57.620 So much so that they have broken down the woman to such a level that women do not feel 1.00
00:03:02.440 secure in their self.
00:03:03.720 Like, when we got over COVID, yeah, people was wearing masks.
00:03:06.940 There was a study done that showed that women carried on wearing masks because they 0.99
00:03:09.860 didn't want to be judged based on their appearance.
00:03:11.260 Or where they were in America, in New York, their specific clothes that they wear so they're
00:03:15.360 not harassed on the streets.
00:03:16.520 So when we're talking about oppression, if majority, like, when I talk about Western
00:03:20.600 women, by the way, this includes Muslim women who are sadly inflicted by the Western system.
00:03:25.660 So the point is what?
00:03:26.560 What do you define as oppression?
00:03:27.680 There are women out there who are walking, who are getting butt implants, dying in the process. 1.00
00:03:31.260 It's actually martyrdom in the process of beauty.
00:03:33.700 So what does oppression mean?
00:03:34.940 There are billions of women around the world who have been affected.
00:03:38.040 So oppression, define what?
00:03:39.740 Yeah, that's good.
00:03:41.120 Because what's the theory of justice that you're using?
00:03:44.940 And that's the problem with Piers Morgan.
00:03:46.360 I don't think he has a coherent theory of justice.
00:03:48.780 That's why he finds it.
00:03:49.780 He's so ambivalent when it comes to these ethical questions, because he doesn't know.
00:03:54.800 He's always saying it's a quandary for me and all these kind of things.
00:03:57.100 And he's conflicted and ambivalent.
00:03:59.300 And he's undecided because he doesn't go to the biblical.
00:04:03.000 Obviously, he says he's a self-proclaimed Catholic.
00:04:05.140 Like, in Catholicism, we know what the, for example, biblical verses say about homosexuality.
00:04:11.760 And we know what the popes have said throughout the years on homosexuality as a sin, which is the normative position.
00:04:18.800 And we know what orthodox Judaism says.
00:04:19.940 Because, in fact, what Ben Shapiro himself has come out and said, that he believes biblically that homosexuality is a sin.
00:04:27.480 So all of these things, having been said, he doesn't have a theory of justice.
00:04:32.360 That's why he resorts to looking at Winston Churchill as some kind of prophet, effectively.
00:04:38.320 Whatever this guy says, it must be the case.
00:04:40.600 It must be the truth.
00:04:41.200 It's as if he has become the moral standard.
00:04:44.200 These great white Western figures have become the moral standard.
00:04:48.280 You know, the Quran will ask him a question, which it does. 0.80
00:04:52.060 You know, what is...
00:04:54.000 أَمْ شَرَعُ لَهُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَنْ بِهِ اللَّهِ
00:04:56.960 أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ شَرَعُ لَهُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَنْ بِهِ اللَّهِ
00:05:02.960 Have they got associates with God who have legislated for them in the religion?
00:05:07.000 Well, Allah has not given them authority. 0.66
00:05:09.300 In other words, where is your morality coming from?
00:05:11.960 It's not coming from the divine.
00:05:13.940 So it's a man-made morality.
00:05:16.480 And why are you then imposing that upon other cultures and other people?
00:05:20.160 And also, I've done a reaction video of how he treated Ben Shapiro
00:05:22.960 when it came to this question of homosexuality.
00:05:25.100 It was a whole different tone.
00:05:26.140 I don't know if you've seen it.
00:05:26.900 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:27.340 It's a whole different tone which I've reacted to.
00:05:29.260 But I think it's a closet Islamophobe.
00:05:31.600 I genuinely believe what he said yesterday to Abdu Wahid 1.00
00:05:35.540 clearly showed that this is what he thinks about the Sharia.
00:05:38.580 And that's the reason why, bro, he cannot call the IDF a terrorist state.
00:05:42.680 He's afraid to be labeled an Islamophobe.
00:05:44.100 He cannot, bro.
00:05:44.660 You know why?
00:05:45.240 Because his loyalties are clear where it's with.
00:05:47.400 It's as simple as that.
00:05:47.920 He dehumanizes.
00:05:49.100 Look, if you despise something, if you see the Sharia as something, 0.83
00:05:51.580 an oppressing woman, do you think you are in favor? 1.00
00:05:54.360 No.
00:05:55.060 Therefore, you are not going to be in favor.
00:05:56.840 Look at the Palestinians. 1.00
00:05:57.700 If the Palestinians were Christians, do you think you would have this tone?
00:06:00.200 You don't even use the word acts of terrorism of what's going on.
00:06:03.660 18,000 people massacred, bro.
00:06:05.460 So I think that's it.
00:06:06.900 I believe he's just an Islamophobe.
00:06:08.840 Should we continue the video?
00:06:10.160 I think the problem is that his response should have been clear.
00:06:15.100 It should have been decisive.
00:06:16.580 I apologize if my words have been taken out of context.
00:06:19.760 I retract them.
00:06:20.780 And, you know, I condemn.
00:06:24.220 He's asking everybody else for condemnation.
00:06:26.440 He should condemn his own words, frankly, because they've come at a very inopportune time.
00:06:31.740 We were expecting a clear, decisive retraction.
00:06:35.360 Yeah.
00:06:35.660 Now, for him to then say, oh, there's a context.
00:06:39.000 I'm sorry.
00:06:39.740 What's the context of using a misogynist Islamophobic trope?
00:06:43.780 At a time where the current ruling party, the Conservative Party, have just got rid of Suwala Bravaman, who has been kowtowing to the far right.
00:06:55.980 Far right is rising here in the UK.
00:06:58.300 So to be championing, you know, the tropes that have been put forward by them is dangerous and it needs to be dealt with decisively.
00:07:08.960 Not, oh, there's a context.
00:07:10.560 Also, if there's a context, you can link oppression with Muslim women. 0.97
00:07:14.220 Is that what you're saying?
00:07:15.300 The Prophet ﷺ said, whoever builds a masjid for the sake of Allah SWT, Allah will build for him a similar house in Jannah. 0.53
00:07:23.680 On that day where Allah SWT tells us that our books will be given and every little atom weight of good deeds you've done will be there.
00:07:31.940 And imagine you see a mountain and you're like, what a lucky person.
00:07:35.880 Which righteous person?
00:07:37.940 Allah says, this is for you.
00:07:39.540 For me?
00:07:40.260 Yes.
00:07:40.900 What did I do?
00:07:42.300 You allowed people to pray.
00:07:44.000 You built a masjid.
00:07:45.060 I never had the money to build a masjid, oh Allah. 0.62
00:07:47.040 You helped.
00:07:48.180 You gave towards it.
00:07:49.160 And Allah gives you the reward of as if you've built it.
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