Ali Dawah - September 10, 2021
SHAM IDREES & WIFE ACCUSE WAITRESS - LIES OR TRUTH?
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Summary
Brother Shams Idris and his wife claim that they suffered Islamophobia at a public place to eat in Canada. Is this true? What really happened to them and how should we act towards this kind of claim?
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and dear friends hope you guys are well inshallah before i start i want to praise allah subhanahu
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wa ta'ala the most merciful the most trust or praise his glory and gratitude belong to him
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today's video i'm going to get straight into inshallah is about brother sham idris and his
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wife um this video was sent to me as you can see on the screen i don't go and look for these videos
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i actually even had no clue what the person that forwarded to me was even saying i was like i don't
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know what you're talking about um so some people come to me and said you know like expose them etc
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um and i want to make something very clear about my sisters yeah first i'm going to play two videos
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one's going to be of his wife froggy uh the second one is of himself and i want to make something very
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clear i i do not intend or i do not look for people's mistakes because i feel allah subhanahu
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wa ta'ala the process said if uh a person looks for the sins of his brother allah will find the
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sins in his house so we shouldn't be people looking for like oh how can i catch this person now oh well
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this is this is a disease in the heart yeah now i could use this opportunity if i had this disease
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in the heart uh i have many diseases may allah protect me i'm just talking about the specific
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one and may allah protect me from this as well um that i could have easily make this and
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just go full out on them because there's many things that they do that is not permissible
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yeah i could have got full out on them and use this on top and just send hate towards them and
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you know the video could go like that yeah i could just say you know what you guys are like this you
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guys are like that you fake the whole thing etc the question that i would have to ask myself is why
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would i do that yeah why would i do that why am i doing it because genuinely care or because i have a
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hate uh inside me towards them i have a disease i just don't like them because of whatever it may be
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let's go to the video this is a video that of this couple who's gone to a place to eat and they
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are claiming that they suffered islamophobia let's first listen to the wife i'm going to blur her face
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the reason i'm going to blur her face but in this sense i'm going to blur it because she's somebody's
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wife she's married and she's uh you know wearing makeup she's beautified herself so i prefer not to
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you know see that as i'm listening um uh yeah so let's go into it we just got back from dimitri's
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which is a dessert cafe it's in oakville we went to the oakville location it's in ontario canada
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i took my kids my family and some of my hijabi friends we just wanted to have some dessert just
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have a night out you know how people go out the servers at that location did not want to take our
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order they asked us to leave the restaurant and if we didn't leave the restaurant they said they will
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call the cops which they did because we didn't want to leave because we were muslim and they didn't
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want to take our order okay now that's a big claim it is very distressing for anyone that suffered
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from islamophobia and we deal this head on you know with islamophobes in the uk and etc around the
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world uh that we try to expose um so here's a big claim uh but there was a message from another
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uh individual another sister uh who claimed that she was at the restaurant herself
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she claims that uh that's not how it unfolded etc but let's carry on we're gonna find out what
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really happened we're gonna come to understand inshallah what really happened and as muslims how
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we should be behaving towards this kind of claims after going to a public restaurant just to have some
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food especially with a baby told to leave along with my hijabi friends and my family because we
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are muslim and we wear hijab this is so disgusting i just want to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone
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again um and obviously there are certain people that are contesting that as well let's see what
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uh brother idris has to say because he brings some evidence forward i'll be explaining everything with
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facts so make sure you watch this video till the end i've been on social media since 2012 and the last
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nine years i have never talked about a brand like this publicly and honestly i had no intentions of doing
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so but after what we experienced that night i really wanted to share everything with you guys
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now i want to clarify that i've been to dimitri's plenty of times in the past as a matter of fact
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in the past it was my favorite dessert place to go to i have never experienced racism i have never
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experienced any islamophobia in the past and i celebrated my wife's birthday party at dimitri's
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for a group of 11 people that arrived at dimitri's around 11 or 5 pm now keep in mind that this group
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consisted of three hijabis a 10 year old and an 18 month old baby muhammad our friend his mom fatima
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wanted to treat us so she got in the line she even got a text message while we waited in the rain for our
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table to be ready the timing of this message is very important because some staff members and people
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claim that we walked in 10 minutes before closing which is incorrect so you can see from the timing of
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this message when we started waiting for our line shortly after we were directed to the table even
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when we were denied service it was still 11 36 pm we were promised a booth a group of teens who are
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not muslims came after us and they were given the booth so far it looks plausible in the context where
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the accusations that they were there when it was about to close etc goes out the window with this
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evidence we were offered two tables which we gladly took they were right next to each other
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and we asked a staff member not jessica that staff member was wearing a red or maroon sweater
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if we can organize them together because we had kids and family with us and she said sure that's
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not a problem now i want you to listen to this clip where my wife mentions this to another staff
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member at the counter she said i don't think it's a problem and we started moving them and that man
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is like we can't eat here anymore does that sound after we moved the tables with permission jessica
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came over and asked us who gave you permission to move these tables so we pointed towards the staff
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member and she said well you have to ask a supervisor as a customer we can go into a restaurant and ask
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anybody that works there we're not going to be asking hi can you please direct us to a supervisor
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so we can move our tables if a staff member agrees we are obviously going to move the table
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now at this point jessica mentions uh these people that were sitting about four to five feet away from
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us that look they're very uncomfortable at that point so um at this point i'll just stop for a quick
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second um is that it's a miscommunication because someone a staff has said something maybe she should
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have not said and due to covered restrictions the two tables should not be joined together
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even though we can say they are family uh from the same family but if they shouldn't be they
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shouldn't be now is it their fault shamadris's and his family's not not at all is it jessica's
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fault not at all it's just a miscommunication and anyways they move on from that those people turned
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out to be fans so they replied to jessica by saying no we're not uncomfortable we love their videos
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hello guys uh i'm making this here you have the brother who's just testifying that he was not
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uncomfortable etc so that clears the doubt uh that that may have been uncomfortable uh in the
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context where maybe she said it unless let's assume the best that jessica may have thought
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this is an individual covid is there maybe he doesn't you know want to be close that's understandable
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again i cannot blame jessica and we cannot blame adres and the rest she's doing her job to make sure
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everyone feels comfortable um so yeah and if that wasn't their fan maybe they would have felt
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uncomfortable so let's just be fair here uh let's carry on to this jessica replied well you have to
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move the tables back so we agreed and said can you please find us a longer table so all of us can sit
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together she agreed and left while waiting peacefully i even recorded a video of my wife and baby
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yes sierra you can see from this video that we have already turned the tables and we are sitting
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separately in a group of six and a group of five at this point while sitting at the table and waiting for
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a big table to be available many of my family members took their masks and to be honest
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again just to clarify some people said that there was 22 of them so the fact that he's shown image
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which we can see there's 11 of them there's not 22 of them that clears that doubt for me anyways
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every single person that was at the restaurant while they were sitting at their tables they had taken
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their masks off after waiting for a little bit we asked the supervisor if our bigger table was ready
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so he directed us to a table that was closer to the door the entrance of demetri's but that table
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was still dirty he says go over there i'll get the table cleaned up for you now we're waiting at this
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table waiting for it to be cleaned so we can order our food and joseph comes and hands us a card and
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says we have the right not to serve you call our manager tomorrow and you need to leave the restaurant
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to be honest we were a little confused at this point as to what just happened so we went to the
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counter and asked what exactly went wrong why did you guys not want to serve us she said i don't
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think it's a problem and we started moving them and that man is like we can't eat here anymore
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doesn't that sound it's exactly at this point another staff member that was just making something
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at the back i don't have a milkshake or something just passed a comment i'll be very frank with you
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at this point i became very upset when i heard that i pulled out the camera and started recording
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now i want you to closely listen to this clip they didn't okay firstly you're asking a question
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like you don't like serving us uh because she wears a hijab i don't know where that came from
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you haven't shown the full clip with brother idris uh brother sham uh i i don't know where that come
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from it's it's as if you're putting maybe words in her mouth i'm not saying you are but it comes
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across like that so and she does say yeah but i don't know if she says yeah because she heard you
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or she said yes to something else or i don't know but i very highly doubt that a person i was told that
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it was owned by a muslim owner that the person is going to come and say that yes we're not serving
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because she wears a um hijab and you ask her that so here it's just a bit like um i don't know i'm not
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sure is that yeah i'm recording uh you guys what exactly did we do we have a baby with us what exactly
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did we do can you please tell us what did we do after this the supervisor and jessica started ignoring
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us and here's another video of me standing at the counter while they don't even acknowledge me
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we asked another staff member why we were asked to leave when we didn't do anything
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this is the same clip i played for you guys early listen closely
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so they're calling this miscommunication at this point they had already called the police
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they informed us that as of february 2021 any restaurants can ask any customers to leave
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without giving them a reason as long as it's not racism and we said well this is racism look exactly
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what happened and they said you know it's going to be very hard for you to prove that so we recommend
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you go home call the manager tomorrow and take it up with them at this point to be honest i was very
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upset my family was very upset but i told them to just stay calm let's not create a fuss we'll go
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home i'll take this up on social media and we'll get them justice this isn't a case of covid 19 or
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miscommunications we were there we saw that jessica and others felt very uncomfortable when they were
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dealing with the two hijabi girls my wife and muhammad's mom fatima who were dealing directly with
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them there was even another hijabi woman present at that time but now yes there's another hijab woman
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present at that time and not only that there was someone who claimed the story is a little bit
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different she's a hijabi as well um so to say that they discriminated because of islamophobia
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is a case that we need to really prove uh because it's a big it is a big claim and we shouldn't take
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it lightly at all uh so the thing is if there's a hijabi already claiming that there's a hijabi already
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there and there are muslims there if they were not felt welcome i'm sure they would have expressed
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that they would not want to serve them because they're hijabis they could have done that all
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across board do you get what i'm trying to say so again i'm not saying you may have not felt like
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that but it's to make that claim it's it's a big claim this isn't the first time that this restaurant
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experienced customer service issues you can look at the reviews for the past few years and you can see
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again and again a lot of people complain about service issues every restaurant has service issues etc so i
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wouldn't really use that if people came and said you know what if you saw many few hijabis in that
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comment section saying you know what i was discriminated against then i would say you've
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got a case there but with people complaining about foods and service it's it's it's bound to happen
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and to all the people who are not there or to all the people that may not have had this first
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hand experience don't make comments on this because islamophobia does exist look what happened
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in london ontario so we experienced it firsthand of course islamophobia exists i'm i did with it
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firsthand but to claim that okay islamophobia exists here here here therefore it also existed
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here i wouldn't say would be fair because just because certain things happen in certain places
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doesn't mean you being denied for whatever reason you believe it waslamophobia they believe it was
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covered restrictions and other elements um so we can't add that in there but in a nutshell guys i just
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want to give you guys a bit of a reminder okay now like i said before i don't have anything personal
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against prophet sham uh idris and his wife froggy etc um and i believe one thing that i would like to
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give them as a reminder everybody as well is firstly we should there's a concept in islam called
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yeah we should have the best of assumptions to our believers the salaf would say that if we saw our
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brother his beard drenched in alcohol we'll say somebody poured it over their head if we saw our
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brother in the mountain saying i am your lord and you are my servant we would say that he's reading a
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verse of the quran the point here is this we need to give the benefit of the doubt to everybody yeah
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okay especially muslims as well yeah now however however one thing that we need to say is in this
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specific situation i'm going to i would not accept the the the accusations of islamophobia that i i would
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that that's a fast stretch personally yeah i believe that there was a covet issue etc joining tables
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together they'd separated we have that in the uk etc so they had right to concern and few
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other elements god knows what happened you went to the other table i don't know what happened and
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truth would come out when the cameras whatever it happened however the point here is this we should
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have the best of assumptions but number two i want to give an advice to our dear brothers
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uh shamidris and his dear wife uh sister froggy you need to understand there is videos that you've
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done before where it might be a clickbait it might be things that are not true etc um and i don't know i
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don't watch your guys videos but the thing is if you may have or not i'm not understanding if there's
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a certain reputation that you've built of certain things that may have happened there was a situation
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that was told to me that you claim the wife got punished in a sentence in pakistan or something
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like that and it wasn't true what happens is people lose trust and that's why it's very very
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important for us uh to build that reputation where you know we try not to like me i do clickbaits
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yeah i try my clickbaits to be quran and sunnah i don't lie in them and i try to give a beneficial
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reminder when people watch it yeah and even then people like sometimes think oh that's a clickbait
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i've kind of built that reputation in that sense i can't really blame people if they think ali's
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next video is clickbait so the point here is the following that if you guys have done certain things
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that have built a reputation towards yourself then what people don't believe in you can we blame them
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or blame ourselves that's point number one um point number two is like i said before let's not use
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the word islamophobia very loosely because it's a big term people have been killed over it
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uh people have died so the point is that we should understand so yeah that being said i would
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like to give you guys a personal advice as well yeah this is i've never done a video about you guys
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etc but using this opportunity once and for all i don't want to come back here um is that look you
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guys are social influencers yeah you guys have a big following yeah this is off topic this off topic yeah
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you guys have a big big following and you need to understand how you carry yourself how you conduct
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yourself is a responsibility and a man allah subhanahu wa ta'ala will ask you yeah brother idris you know
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sometimes you free mix with women yeah okay i'm not here to pick on you i'm here to as your brother
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if i care about you i'm saying have i done a video about this before like you said have you ever talked
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about rational people no you haven't have i ever talked about you guys before i could have made a
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hundred excuses to just attack you guys and i'm not attacking i'm giving a brother advice okay i have
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to because remind the benefits of believer yeah with other women okay free mixing etc you are social
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influencers you need to understand that people individuals like sister dina tokyo and her legs
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even sister habiba the silver these individuals sadly the way they portray the hijab is not the
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hijab i'm so sorry you know wearing absolutely tight clothings where you can see the whole body
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you know or showing the hair now we have a pandemic of sisters showing their hair i'm out with my wife
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and i can we see maybe 20 or sisters who are showing their hair the hair is outer where did this come
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from it started from the emirates then dina tokyo popularized it now you have these people who are
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following this the point i'm trying to make is your actions you have people that look up to
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you even you guys done a video that you guys used to be best friends yeah and then you get married
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alhamdulillah may allah bless your marriage and keep you firm but the point is this being friends
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it's haram it's not permissible so when you portray this and make it like we were friends before
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you are opening the doors to zina indirectly i'm not saying directly you're saying that but what you're
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doing is you're making the people believe the muslim youth you can be friends with opposite gender
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the prophet peace be upon him said if a man or a woman is alone the third person is shaitan
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when you're friends there is no i've done a social experiment called can men and women just
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be friends they can't it's impossible forget forget the experiment what allah and his messenger told
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us you know so the point is this there's certain things that you're portraying even i would do
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your sister your wife you know when she wears hijab maybe a certain element she's showing you know
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maybe whatever i don't want to listen to your wife i don't feel comfortable going into this what i'm
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trying to say is that social influences you guys have a responsibility please please bear that in mind
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i'm not here to attack you i don't think i'm better than you maybe you guys a hundred a million times
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better than me yeah maybe i'm a very corrupt individual yeah my point here is not i'm not
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coming with a holy i'm holy than thou you know i'm just trying to say please for your akhira yeah
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for your akhira please please please yeah bear this in mind and one little advice is this yusuf
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he had a dream and his dad told him not to share his dream with his brothers my dear sister and brother
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you guys are sharing everything in the entire world there are people that don't have the positions
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that you have they might be jealous that's the reason why so many people message me that oh attack
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they i'm doing this i'm not going to do that because why do i need to do that because i know
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their genuine concern is not the right things yeah there are people who genuinely for the sake of
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allah dislike what you guys do but there are people out there who do not like you because why
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because they want what you guys have and you showing this you are opening the doors to evil eye
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and many other things protect yourself don't show everything out there i have hosted than that yes
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you guys experienced this i don't believe you guys lied or made a drama etc from what i can see the
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evidence that you probably answered quite a few doubts however the islamophobia thing it's it's
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far stretched yeah um to make it seem i i i i can't so i'm going to be balanced here assume the best
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you know i'm not going to come and say you fake this and did this and i'm not going to do that yeah
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so i'm just saying that inshallah and i hope you guys have benefited brother sham and i hope i haven't
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hurt you guys but it's my duty to remind you guys that you have a following of millions and these
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people watch you guys be careful to the things you do give the right of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala as a
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reminder to everybody that's watching this pray your salah give it zakah fast in ramadan give allah's
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rights abstain from major sins okay this is my reminder to you guys inshallah and let not let's not
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allow this dunya a few moments of the dunya to cost our akhirah inshallah till next time
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assalamualaikum warahmatullahi barakatuh um goodbye