Ali Dawah - September 10, 2021


SHAM IDREES & WIFE ACCUSE WAITRESS - LIES OR TRUTH?


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19 minutes

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4,323

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1

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6

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Brother Shams Idris and his wife claim that they suffered Islamophobia at a public place to eat in Canada. Is this true? What really happened to them and how should we act towards this kind of claim?

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00:00:21.340 and dear friends hope you guys are well inshallah before i start i want to praise allah subhanahu
00:00:23.780 wa ta'ala the most merciful the most trust or praise his glory and gratitude belong to him
00:00:26.540 today's video i'm going to get straight into inshallah is about brother sham idris and his
00:00:31.120 wife um this video was sent to me as you can see on the screen i don't go and look for these videos
00:00:34.680 i actually even had no clue what the person that forwarded to me was even saying i was like i don't
00:00:39.320 know what you're talking about um so some people come to me and said you know like expose them etc
00:00:44.280 um and i want to make something very clear about my sisters yeah first i'm going to play two videos
00:00:48.760 one's going to be of his wife froggy uh the second one is of himself and i want to make something very
00:00:53.320 clear i i do not intend or i do not look for people's mistakes because i feel allah subhanahu
00:00:57.900 wa ta'ala the process said if uh a person looks for the sins of his brother allah will find the
00:01:03.220 sins in his house so we shouldn't be people looking for like oh how can i catch this person now oh well
00:01:07.080 this is this is a disease in the heart yeah now i could use this opportunity if i had this disease
00:01:12.760 in the heart uh i have many diseases may allah protect me i'm just talking about the specific
00:01:15.960 one and may allah protect me from this as well um that i could have easily make this and
00:01:20.080 just go full out on them because there's many things that they do that is not permissible
00:01:23.420 yeah i could have got full out on them and use this on top and just send hate towards them and
00:01:27.400 you know the video could go like that yeah i could just say you know what you guys are like this you
00:01:32.160 guys are like that you fake the whole thing etc the question that i would have to ask myself is why
00:01:36.920 would i do that yeah why would i do that why am i doing it because genuinely care or because i have a
00:01:41.120 hate uh inside me towards them i have a disease i just don't like them because of whatever it may be
00:01:45.760 let's go to the video this is a video that of this couple who's gone to a place to eat and they
00:01:52.900 are claiming that they suffered islamophobia let's first listen to the wife i'm going to blur her face 0.99
00:01:58.260 the reason i'm going to blur her face but in this sense i'm going to blur it because she's somebody's
00:02:01.620 wife she's married and she's uh you know wearing makeup she's beautified herself so i prefer not to 0.97
00:02:06.500 you know see that as i'm listening um uh yeah so let's go into it we just got back from dimitri's
00:02:12.620 which is a dessert cafe it's in oakville we went to the oakville location it's in ontario canada
00:02:18.540 i took my kids my family and some of my hijabi friends we just wanted to have some dessert just
00:02:25.020 have a night out you know how people go out the servers at that location did not want to take our
00:02:31.700 order they asked us to leave the restaurant and if we didn't leave the restaurant they said they will
00:02:39.020 call the cops which they did because we didn't want to leave because we were muslim and they didn't
00:02:45.100 want to take our order okay now that's a big claim it is very distressing for anyone that suffered
00:02:49.100 from islamophobia and we deal this head on you know with islamophobes in the uk and etc around the
00:02:53.940 world uh that we try to expose um so here's a big claim uh but there was a message from another
00:03:00.260 uh individual another sister uh who claimed that she was at the restaurant herself
00:03:05.020 she claims that uh that's not how it unfolded etc but let's carry on we're gonna find out what
00:03:12.380 really happened we're gonna come to understand inshallah what really happened and as muslims how
00:03:15.900 we should be behaving towards this kind of claims after going to a public restaurant just to have some
00:03:21.760 food especially with a baby told to leave along with my hijabi friends and my family because we
00:03:28.440 are muslim and we wear hijab this is so disgusting i just want to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone
00:03:33.320 again um and obviously there are certain people that are contesting that as well let's see what
00:03:38.060 uh brother idris has to say because he brings some evidence forward i'll be explaining everything with
00:03:43.240 facts so make sure you watch this video till the end i've been on social media since 2012 and the last
00:03:49.360 nine years i have never talked about a brand like this publicly and honestly i had no intentions of doing
00:03:55.240 so but after what we experienced that night i really wanted to share everything with you guys
00:04:00.220 now i want to clarify that i've been to dimitri's plenty of times in the past as a matter of fact
00:04:05.960 in the past it was my favorite dessert place to go to i have never experienced racism i have never
00:04:11.420 experienced any islamophobia in the past and i celebrated my wife's birthday party at dimitri's
00:04:17.460 for a group of 11 people that arrived at dimitri's around 11 or 5 pm now keep in mind that this group
00:04:23.840 consisted of three hijabis a 10 year old and an 18 month old baby muhammad our friend his mom fatima
00:04:31.280 wanted to treat us so she got in the line she even got a text message while we waited in the rain for our 0.95
00:04:37.780 table to be ready the timing of this message is very important because some staff members and people
00:04:43.640 claim that we walked in 10 minutes before closing which is incorrect so you can see from the timing of
00:04:50.540 this message when we started waiting for our line shortly after we were directed to the table even
00:04:55.740 when we were denied service it was still 11 36 pm we were promised a booth a group of teens who are
00:05:02.780 not muslims came after us and they were given the booth so far it looks plausible in the context where
00:05:07.900 the accusations that they were there when it was about to close etc goes out the window with this
00:05:11.760 evidence we were offered two tables which we gladly took they were right next to each other
00:05:16.940 and we asked a staff member not jessica that staff member was wearing a red or maroon sweater
00:05:22.460 if we can organize them together because we had kids and family with us and she said sure that's
00:05:28.620 not a problem now i want you to listen to this clip where my wife mentions this to another staff
00:05:33.940 member at the counter she said i don't think it's a problem and we started moving them and that man
00:05:41.600 is like we can't eat here anymore does that sound after we moved the tables with permission jessica
00:05:47.120 came over and asked us who gave you permission to move these tables so we pointed towards the staff
00:05:53.320 member and she said well you have to ask a supervisor as a customer we can go into a restaurant and ask
00:06:00.220 anybody that works there we're not going to be asking hi can you please direct us to a supervisor
00:06:04.940 so we can move our tables if a staff member agrees we are obviously going to move the table
00:06:09.900 now at this point jessica mentions uh these people that were sitting about four to five feet away from
00:06:15.620 us that look they're very uncomfortable at that point so um at this point i'll just stop for a quick
00:06:21.560 second um is that it's a miscommunication because someone a staff has said something maybe she should
00:06:26.260 have not said and due to covered restrictions the two tables should not be joined together
00:06:30.060 even though we can say they are family uh from the same family but if they shouldn't be they
00:06:35.240 shouldn't be now is it their fault shamadris's and his family's not not at all is it jessica's
00:06:39.600 fault not at all it's just a miscommunication and anyways they move on from that those people turned
00:06:44.240 out to be fans so they replied to jessica by saying no we're not uncomfortable we love their videos
00:06:49.700 hello guys uh i'm making this here you have the brother who's just testifying that he was not
00:06:54.680 uncomfortable etc so that clears the doubt uh that that may have been uncomfortable uh in the
00:07:00.300 context where maybe she said it unless let's assume the best that jessica may have thought
00:07:03.600 this is an individual covid is there maybe he doesn't you know want to be close that's understandable
00:07:08.720 again i cannot blame jessica and we cannot blame adres and the rest she's doing her job to make sure
00:07:14.360 everyone feels comfortable um so yeah and if that wasn't their fan maybe they would have felt
00:07:20.300 uncomfortable so let's just be fair here uh let's carry on to this jessica replied well you have to
00:07:25.520 move the tables back so we agreed and said can you please find us a longer table so all of us can sit
00:07:31.380 together she agreed and left while waiting peacefully i even recorded a video of my wife and baby
00:07:38.400 yes sierra you can see from this video that we have already turned the tables and we are sitting
00:07:43.720 separately in a group of six and a group of five at this point while sitting at the table and waiting for
00:07:49.460 a big table to be available many of my family members took their masks and to be honest
00:07:54.620 again just to clarify some people said that there was 22 of them so the fact that he's shown image
00:08:00.040 which we can see there's 11 of them there's not 22 of them that clears that doubt for me anyways
00:08:05.300 every single person that was at the restaurant while they were sitting at their tables they had taken
00:08:10.840 their masks off after waiting for a little bit we asked the supervisor if our bigger table was ready
00:08:16.420 so he directed us to a table that was closer to the door the entrance of demetri's but that table
00:08:22.480 was still dirty he says go over there i'll get the table cleaned up for you now we're waiting at this
00:08:28.120 table waiting for it to be cleaned so we can order our food and joseph comes and hands us a card and
00:08:33.920 says we have the right not to serve you call our manager tomorrow and you need to leave the restaurant
00:08:39.140 to be honest we were a little confused at this point as to what just happened so we went to the
00:08:44.160 counter and asked what exactly went wrong why did you guys not want to serve us she said i don't
00:08:50.300 think it's a problem and we started moving them and that man is like we can't eat here anymore
00:08:53.800 doesn't that sound it's exactly at this point another staff member that was just making something
00:08:59.660 at the back i don't have a milkshake or something just passed a comment i'll be very frank with you
00:09:04.280 at this point i became very upset when i heard that i pulled out the camera and started recording
00:09:10.180 now i want you to closely listen to this clip they didn't okay firstly you're asking a question
00:09:25.320 like you don't like serving us uh because she wears a hijab i don't know where that came from 1.00
00:09:31.200 you haven't shown the full clip with brother idris uh brother sham uh i i don't know where that come
00:09:36.040 from it's it's as if you're putting maybe words in her mouth i'm not saying you are but it comes
00:09:39.760 across like that so and she does say yeah but i don't know if she says yeah because she heard you
00:09:46.300 or she said yes to something else or i don't know but i very highly doubt that a person i was told that
00:09:53.080 it was owned by a muslim owner that the person is going to come and say that yes we're not serving
00:09:57.940 because she wears a um hijab and you ask her that so here it's just a bit like um i don't know i'm not
00:10:06.120 sure is that yeah i'm recording uh you guys what exactly did we do we have a baby with us what exactly
00:10:13.340 did we do can you please tell us what did we do after this the supervisor and jessica started ignoring
00:10:21.940 us and here's another video of me standing at the counter while they don't even acknowledge me
00:10:26.680 we asked another staff member why we were asked to leave when we didn't do anything
00:10:33.980 this is the same clip i played for you guys early listen closely
00:10:38.080 so they're calling this miscommunication at this point they had already called the police
00:10:51.520 so the police arrived
00:10:52.720 they informed us that as of february 2021 any restaurants can ask any customers to leave
00:11:03.060 without giving them a reason as long as it's not racism and we said well this is racism look exactly
00:11:08.100 what happened and they said you know it's going to be very hard for you to prove that so we recommend
00:11:13.200 you go home call the manager tomorrow and take it up with them at this point to be honest i was very
00:11:17.660 upset my family was very upset but i told them to just stay calm let's not create a fuss we'll go
00:11:22.700 home i'll take this up on social media and we'll get them justice this isn't a case of covid 19 or
00:11:28.400 miscommunications we were there we saw that jessica and others felt very uncomfortable when they were
00:11:34.720 dealing with the two hijabi girls my wife and muhammad's mom fatima who were dealing directly with
00:11:40.140 them there was even another hijabi woman present at that time but now yes there's another hijab woman 0.99
00:11:46.020 present at that time and not only that there was someone who claimed the story is a little bit
00:11:50.120 different she's a hijabi as well um so to say that they discriminated because of islamophobia 1.00
00:11:55.900 is a case that we need to really prove uh because it's a big it is a big claim and we shouldn't take
00:12:03.500 it lightly at all uh so the thing is if there's a hijabi already claiming that there's a hijabi already
00:12:08.060 there and there are muslims there if they were not felt welcome i'm sure they would have expressed
00:12:13.780 that they would not want to serve them because they're hijabis they could have done that all 1.00
00:12:17.640 across board do you get what i'm trying to say so again i'm not saying you may have not felt like
00:12:21.900 that but it's to make that claim it's it's a big claim this isn't the first time that this restaurant
00:12:26.880 experienced customer service issues you can look at the reviews for the past few years and you can see
00:12:31.320 again and again a lot of people complain about service issues every restaurant has service issues etc so i
00:12:37.300 wouldn't really use that if people came and said you know what if you saw many few hijabis in that
00:12:42.700 comment section saying you know what i was discriminated against then i would say you've
00:12:45.680 got a case there but with people complaining about foods and service it's it's it's bound to happen
00:12:49.680 and to all the people who are not there or to all the people that may not have had this first
00:12:56.420 hand experience don't make comments on this because islamophobia does exist look what happened
00:13:02.300 in london ontario so we experienced it firsthand of course islamophobia exists i'm i did with it 1.00
00:13:08.840 firsthand but to claim that okay islamophobia exists here here here therefore it also existed
00:13:13.720 here i wouldn't say would be fair because just because certain things happen in certain places
00:13:18.440 doesn't mean you being denied for whatever reason you believe it waslamophobia they believe it was
00:13:23.680 covered restrictions and other elements um so we can't add that in there but in a nutshell guys i just
00:13:27.940 want to give you guys a bit of a reminder okay now like i said before i don't have anything personal
00:13:31.660 against prophet sham uh idris and his wife froggy etc um and i believe one thing that i would like to
00:13:38.700 give them as a reminder everybody as well is firstly we should there's a concept in islam called
00:13:42.800 yeah we should have the best of assumptions to our believers the salaf would say that if we saw our 0.84
00:13:48.500 brother his beard drenched in alcohol we'll say somebody poured it over their head if we saw our
00:13:53.720 brother in the mountain saying i am your lord and you are my servant we would say that he's reading a
00:13:58.660 verse of the quran the point here is this we need to give the benefit of the doubt to everybody yeah 0.81
00:14:03.640 okay especially muslims as well yeah now however however one thing that we need to say is in this
00:14:09.600 specific situation i'm going to i would not accept the the the accusations of islamophobia that i i would
00:14:15.460 that that's a fast stretch personally yeah i believe that there was a covet issue etc joining tables
00:14:23.580 together they'd separated we have that in the uk etc so they had right to concern and few
00:14:28.560 other elements god knows what happened you went to the other table i don't know what happened and
00:14:31.520 truth would come out when the cameras whatever it happened however the point here is this we should
00:14:35.940 have the best of assumptions but number two i want to give an advice to our dear brothers
00:14:40.180 uh shamidris and his dear wife uh sister froggy you need to understand there is videos that you've
00:14:47.520 done before where it might be a clickbait it might be things that are not true etc um and i don't know i
00:14:54.520 don't watch your guys videos but the thing is if you may have or not i'm not understanding if there's
00:15:00.840 a certain reputation that you've built of certain things that may have happened there was a situation
00:15:05.140 that was told to me that you claim the wife got punished in a sentence in pakistan or something
00:15:08.560 like that and it wasn't true what happens is people lose trust and that's why it's very very
00:15:12.740 important for us uh to build that reputation where you know we try not to like me i do clickbaits
00:15:18.740 yeah i try my clickbaits to be quran and sunnah i don't lie in them and i try to give a beneficial
00:15:22.720 reminder when people watch it yeah and even then people like sometimes think oh that's a clickbait
00:15:26.920 i've kind of built that reputation in that sense i can't really blame people if they think ali's
00:15:32.040 next video is clickbait so the point here is the following that if you guys have done certain things
00:15:37.800 that have built a reputation towards yourself then what people don't believe in you can we blame them
00:15:43.400 or blame ourselves that's point number one um point number two is like i said before let's not use
00:15:48.000 the word islamophobia very loosely because it's a big term people have been killed over it
00:15:51.340 uh people have died so the point is that we should understand so yeah that being said i would
00:15:55.720 like to give you guys a personal advice as well yeah this is i've never done a video about you guys
00:15:59.100 etc but using this opportunity once and for all i don't want to come back here um is that look you
00:16:03.300 guys are social influencers yeah you guys have a big following yeah this is off topic this off topic yeah
00:16:07.920 you guys have a big big following and you need to understand how you carry yourself how you conduct
00:16:11.840 yourself is a responsibility and a man allah subhanahu wa ta'ala will ask you yeah brother idris you know
00:16:16.880 sometimes you free mix with women yeah okay i'm not here to pick on you i'm here to as your brother
00:16:21.160 if i care about you i'm saying have i done a video about this before like you said have you ever talked
00:16:25.340 about rational people no you haven't have i ever talked about you guys before i could have made a
00:16:28.520 hundred excuses to just attack you guys and i'm not attacking i'm giving a brother advice okay i have
00:16:32.620 to because remind the benefits of believer yeah with other women okay free mixing etc you are social
00:16:38.900 influencers you need to understand that people individuals like sister dina tokyo and her legs
00:16:43.340 even sister habiba the silver these individuals sadly the way they portray the hijab is not the
00:16:48.060 hijab i'm so sorry you know wearing absolutely tight clothings where you can see the whole body 0.96
00:16:52.880 you know or showing the hair now we have a pandemic of sisters showing their hair i'm out with my wife 1.00
00:16:58.140 and i can we see maybe 20 or sisters who are showing their hair the hair is outer where did this come
00:17:04.700 from it started from the emirates then dina tokyo popularized it now you have these people who are
00:17:08.980 following this the point i'm trying to make is your actions you have people that look up to
00:17:13.300 you even you guys done a video that you guys used to be best friends yeah and then you get married
00:17:17.160 alhamdulillah may allah bless your marriage and keep you firm but the point is this being friends
00:17:22.060 it's haram it's not permissible so when you portray this and make it like we were friends before
00:17:26.420 you are opening the doors to zina indirectly i'm not saying directly you're saying that but what you're
00:17:32.080 doing is you're making the people believe the muslim youth you can be friends with opposite gender
00:17:36.260 the prophet peace be upon him said if a man or a woman is alone the third person is shaitan
00:17:39.420 when you're friends there is no i've done a social experiment called can men and women just
00:17:44.340 be friends they can't it's impossible forget forget the experiment what allah and his messenger told
00:17:49.420 us you know so the point is this there's certain things that you're portraying even i would do
00:17:53.240 your sister your wife you know when she wears hijab maybe a certain element she's showing you know 0.76
00:17:56.980 maybe whatever i don't want to listen to your wife i don't feel comfortable going into this what i'm
00:18:00.640 trying to say is that social influences you guys have a responsibility please please bear that in mind
00:18:05.380 i'm not here to attack you i don't think i'm better than you maybe you guys a hundred a million times
00:18:09.700 better than me yeah maybe i'm a very corrupt individual yeah my point here is not i'm not
00:18:14.340 coming with a holy i'm holy than thou you know i'm just trying to say please for your akhira yeah
00:18:19.560 for your akhira please please please yeah bear this in mind and one little advice is this yusuf
00:18:25.620 he had a dream and his dad told him not to share his dream with his brothers my dear sister and brother
00:18:31.360 you guys are sharing everything in the entire world there are people that don't have the positions
00:18:35.880 that you have they might be jealous that's the reason why so many people message me that oh attack
00:18:40.300 they i'm doing this i'm not going to do that because why do i need to do that because i know
00:18:45.480 their genuine concern is not the right things yeah there are people who genuinely for the sake of
00:18:50.300 allah dislike what you guys do but there are people out there who do not like you because why
00:18:55.560 because they want what you guys have and you showing this you are opening the doors to evil eye
00:19:00.720 and many other things protect yourself don't show everything out there i have hosted than that yes
00:19:07.080 you guys experienced this i don't believe you guys lied or made a drama etc from what i can see the
00:19:11.360 evidence that you probably answered quite a few doubts however the islamophobia thing it's it's
00:19:15.920 far stretched yeah um to make it seem i i i i can't so i'm going to be balanced here assume the best
00:19:21.260 you know i'm not going to come and say you fake this and did this and i'm not going to do that yeah
00:19:24.300 so i'm just saying that inshallah and i hope you guys have benefited brother sham and i hope i haven't
00:19:28.940 hurt you guys but it's my duty to remind you guys that you have a following of millions and these
00:19:34.260 people watch you guys be careful to the things you do give the right of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala as a
00:19:38.600 reminder to everybody that's watching this pray your salah give it zakah fast in ramadan give allah's
00:19:44.460 rights abstain from major sins okay this is my reminder to you guys inshallah and let not let's not
00:19:50.400 allow this dunya a few moments of the dunya to cost our akhirah inshallah till next time
00:19:55.420 assalamualaikum warahmatullahi barakatuh um goodbye