SINCERE ATHEIST ADMITS GOD IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP
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Summary
In this episode, we have a guest who has taken his faith in God to the next level. He is someone who has been working for the government, he has been on the cover of the cover bond, he even works for the U.S. government, and he has even been in the top ranks of the Ustaz (secret government). In this episode we talk about why he refuses to believe in a higher being, why he doesn t worship him, and why he chooses not to worship him.
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I just I just choose not to believe in them okay check this out yeah can I see
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your hands yeah okay look at my hands yeah we have nails yeah do you do you
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hate your hands or do you love your hands somewhere in between okay so how
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could you find use and love yourself but not love the one who created you
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not only does it encourage you to read it tells you how many verses you've read
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how many pages you read how long you've been on it and best of all the hasana
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counter download the qurani app now and have a ramadan with allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
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book like you've never had before asalaamu alaikum guys we have here
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somebody who has taken covet to the next level he might be working for the
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government are you working for the government i can't say he can't say it's
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on the cover bond james bond or you know luke bond james
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how you doing luke i'm doing okay yeah yeah okay i will need you speak a little
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bit louder so they can hear you no no no keep it on keep it on it looks cool it's
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cool we really like it so now he was walking down the road and i saw you and i
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thought what's going on here is there a attack a nuclear attack that's going to
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uh it's just for a joke it's just for a joke yeah okay so who's the joke on is
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there someone you're targeting no it's just um it's just probably to give people
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a good laugh you know oh okay interesting so just people that you have you you caught
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my eye if you remember yeah okay now luke you said that you read the quran
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no i never read it i just heard about it oh you heard about it yeah okay today i'm
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gonna gift you one after we're gonna talk yeah okay um now do you believe in a higher
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being a creator uh no not really okay is there any specific reason why which you
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have come to the conclusion that there is not a higher being
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no no really i just um i just don't really like getting involved like religions and stuff
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okay it's not like a race thing or anything like that i just don't really just find religion
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interesting okay don't manage okay let's put religion to a side yeah let's talk about
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as two logical human beings yeah when we look around us or when you go about your day-to-day
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life you use your logic right yeah okay so when you woke up today you woke up believing that
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you was in your bedroom and you maybe went downstairs or you know you know where your fridge is you
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know that to make breakfast you know what you bought what you've got there and what you're
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going to use you know i'm going to use a a fork or a knife or i'm going to do peanut butter jam
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have you had peanut butter jam before um once yeah you need to try it i never had it before
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but when i tried it i was like wow i tried really i like i really liked it yeah so now you use your
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logic on day-to-day basis even when you came out today you logically said to yourself i want to have
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a laugh i want to make people smile i want to do a little joke you gave yourself a purpose for that
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day to come out and do this and use your logic do you not ever wonder luke where did i come from
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yeah why am i here i do wonder sometimes you do wonder yeah yeah okay do you not think to
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yourself logically doesn't it follow that there must have been a cause to you which is okay your
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mom and dad but what is the cause to the whole universe to us human beings human beings is large
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on this planet why are we here why do like once someone said i think he's a philosopher he said
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why is there something rather than nothing you're conscious i'm conscious so do you not ever wonder
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there must be a higher power what's stopping you from believing in that nothing really i just don't
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i don't know i just i just don't really um like religion all that much you don't really i don't
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really like getting involved with religion okay my family my family's a catholic but i'm i'm not
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okay but luke would you not say that there is many many reasons to believe in a higher intelligence
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yes i do believe there is yeah okay well one second then okay what's stopping you look let's put
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religion to a side i know look before i came to islam i thought religion is man-made it's there to
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control the masses everybody's saying i'm right but i had to come to a realization that realization
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was the following i believed in a higher being but i said how could this higher being exist but not
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give me purpose so you said you know there are reasons to believe in a higher being yeah why do you
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not believe i just choose not to okay that's very interesting man so you do believe there are
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signs and evidence to a higher intelligence but you refuse to worship him or you do you refuse to
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worship him or do you refuse to acknowledge that he exists i just refuse to worship them okay why
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it's very interesting why why do you like do you believe he's not worthy or or can it be luke that
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you have a perception of god in your mind or something that you've been through that has made you feel
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like he's not worthy of worship maybe no what's what's what's what's what's what's stopping you
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can i take this off yeah yeah take off take off yeah yeah sorry now that's uh really nothing honestly
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um i just i just choose not to believe in them okay check this out yeah
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can i see your hands yeah okay look at my hands yeah we have nails yeah do you do you hate your hands
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or do you love your hands somewhere in between okay so your eyes that you see with the tongue that
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you taste with yeah your faculties as a human being would you say that you are happy like happy in the
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context where you know they they they bring you some kind of joy when eating food you know yes okay
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so how could you find use and love yourself but not love the one who created you it doesn't make
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sense in the context where how could you say wow my hands they helped me to grab things yeah
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how could you find useful in something like you're being your hand how could you love your hands but not
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love the one who created them it wouldn't add up do you know what i'm trying to say yeah so if you
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think about it if you acknowledge that god almighty is the one that's given all this to you all these
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faculties he's the one who sustains you he's the one who provides food for you and water and all these
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kind of things yeah does that not make you feel like he is worthy of worship yeah when you put it like
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that yes okay good so now what that means luke is that and anyone's watching this what that means is
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because we do not ponder deep enough and think about it and sometimes what happens we may have
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gone through some trauma in our life and we ascribe that to god and that's why we say i don't want to
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worship that god because he's made me suffer argument's sake but reflecting and pondering upon it
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allah says in the quran i'll recite to you allah says in the creation of the heavens and the earth
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and in the alternation of the night and day there are signs for those who have logic thinking so you i
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admire you honestly by the way yeah i really i'm very happy to talk to you seem like a very sincere
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it's it's not because like i hate religion or anything like that people can believe whatever
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they believe and i just choose not to believe in anything you definitely have that right but
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thinking about and discussing now you do seem sincere you do accept that there are signs that god exists
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and you did say that you do not believe that you want to worship him even though you believe it exists
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but when we broke it down that the things that he's done for us and the things that he does you do
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accept that he is worthy of worship yes okay from now onwards would you still say you are someone that
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believes in god but doesn't worship him or would you say you're someone i'm somewhere in the middle okay would you
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say for example that we can get you to the side where you believe in god and accept that he's
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worthy of worship and you're going to start a journey maybe just trying to acquire that
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yes yeah i think that's a good start and that's i'm not putting words in your mouth that's if you
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believe that yeah because you did say that because come on how could we are you ungrateful to your mom
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and dad no i love my mom you love your mother why do you love your mom and dad because they because
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they're the ones that look out to me all my life what about the one who gave you your mom and dad
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and the one that looks after you till this day that would be my grandparents no no no no whatever
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no i'm talking about god almighty your great great grandparents yeah so for example your mom and dad
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they go out to work for the food yeah yeah but who only my dad goes out to work okay that's good
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that's good that's a quite traditional way of muslim household yeah the the thing is here that what
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about the resources that we have now some people come and say oh i go to i work for it no you don't
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because the water that we have why is it so clean for us to drink who made it like that
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why why is our water clean for us to drink do you get what i'm trying to say yeah who has who has given
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it that functionality that it is good for us the food that we eat why has it got nutrition why has
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it got stuff that benefits us why is it that when a baby is born that it's the first thing that he
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wants to do is suckle and the mother has the breast the milk is that a coincidence no so what we're
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trying to say is these are all attributed to god almighty because if he exists and he's created us
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he has his mercy is all around us do you get what i'm trying to say yeah so based on that we need
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to understand and accept that because of who he is he's deserving of our worship do you get what i'm
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trying to say yeah so i will give you a quran i'm going to leave you on this i don't want to hold
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you do you have any questions for me uh no okay what i'm going to do is this yeah can you just hold this
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yeah it's a microphone actually you know what you do this open the quran yeah
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okay let's open the quran anywhere and point out point out to a verse to me
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this one okay okay this is surah al-imran al-imran verse one five or one five one uh one five
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one five okay so here is allah says but allah is your protector and he is the best of helpers
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yeah we will okay so this is here it says but allah is your protector and he is the best of helpers
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so as you can see this very specific verse yeah here it's telling you that he is your protector
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and he is your helper well what we're talking about here of who he is and what he does for us
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and that's why if he's worthy of worship or not yeah i'm going to give this to you as a gift
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but what allah is saying in here is that he is your helper and your protector meaning that he provides
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for you and we even believe there are angels that protect you from harm do you get what i'm trying to
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say so i believe luke that you know you should look into this and if he exists if you know he exists
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and he is deserving of worship because of everything he does for us pray to him you've got nothing to lose
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go home and say look god if you're there guide me to the truth i'm confused i know you're there
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okay i'm in the middle maybe you're worthy of worship okay we'll discuss that but guide me to
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the truth can you do that yes luke thank you very much any more questions no thank you very much it's
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a pleasure we'd like to see you with more costumes yes no problem thank you very much luke uh youtube
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channel it'll be uh i'll give it to you my name is ali dower
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uh yes but not today there might be another so right my name ali a li are you a train driver
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come talk to us a-l-i ali space d-a-w-a-h it's ali dower to come up
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yeah that's my channel yeah yeah no problem it's been a pleasure luke man look after yourself
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make sure you read the quran yeah i mean guys as you can see we're having nice honest questions here
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and i find it very profound that he accepts that there are signs for god but he was like i don't
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believe deserving of worship after some reflection he realized that god almighty is deserving of
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worship and we discussed that today and this is what we're doing yes come let's talk about it
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have you look after yourself thank you so as you can see uh guys we are causing we just want people
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to reflect the fitrah is there we're just trying to reignite it and that's what happened today he
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acknowledged that how could he love his body parts but not love the one who created those
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so hopefully allah guides him you can support us at paypal in the link inshallah so we can carry