Ali Dawah - March 19, 2018


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In this episode, we discuss the grooming of young Muslim girls by white men in the UK. This is a topic that has been on the front pages of the mainstream media for a while now, but is getting more and more attention.

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00:00:00.000 I should not say to myself, the grooming that's happening,
00:00:03.420 oh, it's white girls, I'm a Muslim, it's not happening to my daughter, I don't care.
00:00:06.900 That's nonsense. I need to question my whole existence
00:00:09.780 if I can say to myself, it's a white girl being groomed, I don't care. 0.99
00:00:14.200 That's disgusting. I have to say, no, that could be my daughter.
00:00:18.280 Just because she's white, so, this is my problem here. 1.00
00:00:21.900 It's a child, it's a child.
00:00:22.820 It's a child, for God's sake. So I would expect the same from you.
00:00:25.980 If you were to hear that a Muslim, my daughter, is being groomed, what would you do?
00:00:30.240 We feel exactly the same.
00:00:31.500 Thank you. So we have something in common.
00:00:33.320 This is what we need to say to Amber Rudd right now.
00:00:37.780 This problem, and the actual mainstream media
00:00:41.120 are only now starting to take this serious, along with the government,
00:00:45.160 the police as well, begs to ask, when you look at Rochdale,
00:00:49.340 20 years apparently this has been going on.
00:00:51.820 How do you feel about that?
00:00:53.580 As obviously a devoted Muslim, how do you feel about being,
00:00:57.440 putting that light by your fellow brothers?
00:01:00.740 You've asked a very valid question, and I really thank you for that.
00:01:03.380 My point is this. Do you have a daughter?
00:01:05.920 I have a daughter, yeah?
00:01:07.040 I have a few daughters, yeah.
00:01:07.520 Okay, I have a daughter as well, yeah?
00:01:08.900 I understand.
00:01:09.320 I do not care if she, the girl is white, black, Muslim, non-Muslim, Christian, Jew. 0.98
00:01:14.820 She shouldn't come into it, should it?
00:01:15.620 Of course not.
00:01:17.000 The point that I have, the point, the point, what's your name by the way?
00:01:20.120 Justin.
00:01:20.520 Justin, I'm Ali, yeah?
00:01:21.340 Sorry, I haven't.
00:01:21.780 You've probably known me from Tommy Robbins' videos, yeah?
00:01:23.380 Yeah, yeah, I see you.
00:01:23.660 Okay, all I'm saying is this, yeah?
00:01:25.540 The way we hate, we should hate all kinds of acts.
00:01:28.160 You know what I find sickening?
00:01:29.480 Is that, do we have a problem with grooming gangs because the perpetrators are Asian Muslim, 0.95
00:01:35.400 or do we have a problem with grooming gangs because the act is wrong?
00:01:38.840 I'm saying we should all hate the act, no matter if it's done by a black, green, yellow, 1.00
00:01:44.160 blue colour, whoever it may be.
00:01:45.860 But the problem that I see is when the term Muslim comes into it, firstly, in Islam, as
00:01:51.260 you know, I had a discussion with Lauren Southern.
00:01:53.460 Have you seen it?
00:01:54.160 No, I'm not.
00:01:55.140 She's a Canadian YouTuber.
00:01:56.440 She said to me, Ali, can you shake my hand?
00:01:58.440 I said, with all due respect, just as the Jews have a belief, I am not allowed to touch 1.00
00:02:02.200 the hand of a female.
00:02:02.960 If in my religion, I am not even allowed to touch the hand of another female, how could, 0.99
00:02:08.480 how could, thank you, thank you.
00:02:10.080 Kevin, yeah?
00:02:10.980 Justin.
00:02:11.480 Justin, sorry, sorry.
00:02:12.080 So, Justin, all I'm saying is our religion full out condemns raping girls, drinking alcohol,
00:02:19.940 going clubbing, taking drugs.
00:02:21.740 These scumbags in Russia, wherever it is, I have, all over the country, yeah? 1.00
00:02:25.920 All over the country.
00:02:26.300 I swear to God, I have no problem.
00:02:29.040 See, that's the problem I have.
00:02:30.660 That's the problem I have.
00:02:31.320 Basically, what?
00:02:31.960 When it's paedophilia, do I go and say Christian white men? 0.66
00:02:35.900 I don't, because I know you're not like them.
00:02:38.020 So, why am I being brought into a category where I, look at paedophilia.
00:02:43.760 No, no, no, no, look, look at, look at the, no, no, no, this is what I'm saying.
00:02:47.420 No, no, no, hear me out.
00:02:49.680 Paedophilia, when we look at paedophilia, it's majority white males. 0.98
00:02:53.420 No, no, no, no, no, hear me, hear me, hear me, hear me, it doesn't make you right.
00:02:58.240 I'm not saying it makes you right.
00:02:59.720 It doesn't make you right.
00:03:00.140 So, you're talking about an act.
00:03:02.180 So, Justin.
00:03:02.960 We need, obviously, to see a more stringent action in, by people in the communities, the government, the police, especially.
00:03:11.480 100%.
00:03:11.800 100%.
00:03:12.720 I am with you 100%.
00:03:15.960 When I went to Tommy Robinson, let me make something very clear, yeah?
00:03:19.320 With Tommy Robinson, I did not go to Tommy Robinson and say, hey, what are you going after Muslim grooming gangs for? 0.92
00:03:23.420 Hey, what are you going after?
00:03:24.640 I have no problem with him going after grooming gangs.
00:03:27.840 And I swear to God, I have no problem joining him.
00:03:29.660 But my point is, why is it when it's only Muslim grooming gangs? 1.00
00:03:32.940 You feel a certain type?
00:03:33.940 Yes, I'm saying we should go after grooming gangs, be they're Muslim or non-Muslim. 1.00
00:03:38.380 Terrorists, be they're Muslim or non-Muslim. 1.00
00:03:40.080 That's my problem.
00:03:41.260 Because I have a daughter.
00:03:42.540 Do you really think if I knew your daughter is being grooved, then I'm going to be like, oh, it's a white girl, who cares? 0.98
00:03:47.680 I swear to God, I don't want to say anything on camera, but you get the point, yeah?
00:03:52.000 I will deal with the situation, yeah?
00:03:53.680 And then I'll buy the grace, yeah?
00:03:55.460 I've got one of your friends, who's a fellow Muslim.
00:03:57.860 His name is Noah.
00:03:58.700 Really nice chap.
00:03:59.880 He works on behalf of Cancer Research.
00:04:02.860 I asked for a lot of feedback on how this is deemed.
00:04:09.000 By obviously those that are respectful to Allah, and those that are respectful to the understanding of society's expectations.
00:04:18.840 Yes, yes.
00:04:19.300 And I was quite convinced that he was a genuine man, and that he answers well on behalf of, obviously, the Islamic followers.
00:04:27.880 And as a result of that, it opened my mind up even more.
00:04:31.160 That's the whole point.
00:04:32.880 But what we have, as you have said, is a monumental problem.
00:04:36.580 Just like the Catholic hierarchy.
00:04:38.840 And the monumental problem in Britain is being undermined.
00:04:42.660 And the whole reason for everyone here today, including yourself, is the truth has to prevail.
00:04:48.360 Yes.
00:04:48.580 And what the government are trying to do is use...
00:04:53.040 Brush it under the carpet.
00:04:53.980 They're trying to use different races, whether it's black and white, and loads of other ethnic backgrounds, against Muslims.
00:05:03.360 Because, basically, we are being led to believe you are the aggressors.
00:05:08.320 Exactly.
00:05:08.520 You are the biggest problem that this country has faced.
00:05:11.580 Exactly.
00:05:12.180 I'm not necessarily agreeing to that.
00:05:14.360 I understand that there are these ripples.
00:05:17.100 Yes.
00:05:17.320 But, what we have to look at is how to deal with this effectively.
00:05:21.420 We're all here for that reason.
00:05:22.660 Yes.
00:05:22.940 This is an ongoing problem.
00:05:24.420 It's not actually eradicated by the law, by the process of judicial trials.
00:05:30.240 Or the government, Home Secretary Amber Rudd, taking it bloody serious.
00:05:34.280 What Amber Rudd has done is basically say, it's acceptable to allow this...
00:05:39.520 Sorry.
00:05:41.040 Come here, come here.
00:05:42.040 Sorry.
00:05:42.160 To allow this to be ongoing, as if it's our problem, just our problem, not theirs.
00:05:48.780 Let's get on with the problems inside Parliament.
00:05:50.900 That's what they want to do.
00:05:51.500 It's everyone's problem.
00:05:52.840 This issue of grooming gangs...
00:05:54.580 Inside Parliament, not outside of it.
00:05:57.260 And this is society.
00:05:58.520 We are taxed by everyone.
00:05:59.860 We pay our taxation.
00:06:01.140 We're paying for many services, and we expect protection for our families.
00:06:06.200 All of us have that right.
00:06:07.600 What we need to see is that people understand one another's positions, and not turn around
00:06:13.980 and isolate sectors and community, because it is easy enough to do so.
00:06:18.620 Because on one hand, we're being expected of being tolerant, and go about our business
00:06:23.360 as if nothing's happened after a bombing, and not pressurise another group to do more.
00:06:29.800 Say, in the Muslim community, to do more.
00:06:32.080 But it does have to be a joint effort.
00:06:33.960 We do need to accept that this is actually happening.
00:06:37.620 Unfortunately, there are wolves in sheep's clothing.
00:06:40.300 They're amongst the actual community of Islam.
00:06:43.680 And how are people going to deal with that?
00:06:46.660 It's not just the police's job.
00:06:48.360 It's not just the society.
00:06:49.580 It's not just the job of government.
00:06:51.240 It's the job of society.
00:06:53.300 All of them.
00:06:53.800 And if I was to look at you straight, and father to father today, and turn around and
00:06:58.460 say, please, spread your word to the communities of the greater Muslim followers, that this is
00:07:07.000 happening amongst them.
00:07:09.500 How is it going to be handled?
00:07:11.720 Because you need to utilise the police, local MPs, to aid you to eradicate this problem in
00:07:19.300 these communities.
00:07:20.400 You can see it's brewing.
00:07:21.640 I mean, we don't want this problem between the divide.
00:07:24.500 This is a great nation.
00:07:26.280 Let's do what we set out to do.
00:07:28.080 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:07:28.800 Go to work, have our families, protect them, enjoy our lives, and do it together.
00:07:34.120 Exactly.
00:07:34.500 Let's do it together.
00:07:35.340 That's exactly my point, Justin, because you made very valid points there.
00:07:39.020 Because you need to understand that, I said it before and I'll say it again, we have to
00:07:43.120 come together to eradicate the problem.
00:07:45.520 My issue with Tommy Robinson is, I don't know if he's had a bad experience with Muslims, I don't
00:07:50.140 know what his problem is.
00:07:50.860 But what he does is, the moment I go in this tweet, it's like what the Jews went through
00:07:55.440 in Nazi Germany.
00:07:56.580 The Jews were vilified.
00:07:58.260 And Hitler didn't come and say, today we're going to kill all the Jews.
00:08:01.480 No, it was a process.
00:08:03.200 Vilification.
00:08:03.780 They're evil.
00:08:04.360 They want to kill us.
00:08:05.160 They want to attack us.
00:08:05.960 They're raping our girls. 1.00
00:08:06.660 Till it came to a point where Hitler said, kill them, they were ready to do it. 1.00
00:08:11.200 So...
00:08:11.440 Go on there.
00:08:13.020 Where's your water?
00:08:14.440 I'm fine.
00:08:14.940 I'm fine.
00:08:15.200 Yeah, no problem.
00:08:15.900 So, the question here is that what Tommy Robinson is doing is that he's vilifying a certain
00:08:21.620 community, yeah?
00:08:22.560 I don't know why.
00:08:23.720 I personally believe maybe he had a bad experience with Muslims in Newton where he lived.
00:08:26.840 Have you actually asked Tommy outright yourself what is his reason?
00:08:30.480 I had a phone conversation with him.
00:08:32.720 I've met Tommy, and as far as I'm concerned, he's a passionate father as well.
00:08:37.040 Of course.
00:08:37.360 He believes, obviously, in protecting the fundamental values.
00:08:40.960 Yes.
00:08:41.320 And, obviously, there is a lot of challenge towards Tommy.
00:08:43.880 You saw what happened last Saturday.
00:08:46.280 The attack on him last Saturday.
00:08:48.720 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:49.140 I think this is an attack on an individual who is representing a mass population of people
00:08:56.300 who want justice to be served.
00:08:59.520 Of course.
00:08:59.580 They want an eradication of these actual grooming cases.
00:09:02.400 Yes.
00:09:03.060 Put aside, we know what their actual nationalities are.
00:09:06.420 Yes.
00:09:06.680 Pakistani heritage.
00:09:07.800 Okay.
00:09:08.120 Obviously, that of an Islamic... 1.00
00:09:09.540 So, what about an Islamic following?
00:09:11.900 But, obviously, their following is that of being a Muslim.
00:09:16.860 So, they're tarnishing your side of community by their own standards.
00:09:22.480 But we have that, as you pointed out earlier.
00:09:24.820 There are British and English white people doing this.
00:09:28.620 I'm seeing.
00:09:29.400 I'm seeing.
00:09:31.100 Why does it have to be?
00:09:32.400 Or Muslim grooming gangs. 0.77
00:09:33.900 Exactly.
00:09:34.180 Or, for example, Christian thieves or Hindu car robbers. 0.84
00:09:39.180 That's it.
00:09:39.600 That's it.
00:09:39.880 The problem here is this, yeah.
00:09:41.040 Our religion outright condemns this act.
00:09:45.000 So, these people, by the basis...
00:09:46.620 It's an identification.
00:09:47.760 This is what it is.
00:09:48.560 It becomes an identification.
00:09:49.220 You can say they're Asian.
00:09:50.420 You can say maybe it's an Asian problem. 0.97
00:09:53.160 I haven't needed it.
00:09:53.900 You might say that.
00:09:54.740 But where does Muslim fit into that? 0.66
00:09:56.800 I'm still trying to figure it out to this day.
00:09:58.560 Yeah, I'm saying.
00:09:58.580 Do you get it?
00:09:59.220 Do you get it?
00:09:59.560 Now, I've actually seen him tweet about white people.
00:10:04.000 But should I tell you...
00:10:06.220 No, you're right.
00:10:07.500 But should I tell you why?
00:10:08.440 Because I think...
00:10:10.080 I might be assuming the worst of him, yeah?
00:10:11.420 But I know if he was to do only tweeting Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, he's going to look wrong.
00:10:16.220 So, to be fair, to be fair, he's posting every now and then a white guy doing this act.
00:10:22.180 But the problem here is this.
00:10:23.740 I have a problem with the act that is done.
00:10:26.100 Not with the background of the person that's doing it.
00:10:29.000 I'm saying terrorism, killing innocent people is wrong.
00:10:31.880 I don't care what colour you are. 0.99
00:10:33.560 Grooming girls is wrong. 1.00
00:10:35.500 I don't care what colour you are. 0.99
00:10:36.960 Paedophilia is wrong.
00:10:38.040 I do not care what colour you are. 1.00
00:10:39.360 But with Tommy, it seems it's...
00:10:41.280 Okay, what's happened today?
00:10:42.920 Grooming girls. 0.95
00:10:43.360 Okay, are they Muslim?
00:10:44.020 No?
00:10:44.240 Okay.
00:10:45.120 Hold on a second.
00:10:46.460 You should hate the act.
00:10:48.560 That's how I feel.
00:10:49.780 That's how I feel.
00:10:50.540 But why is it that he concentrates so much on Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, Muslim?
00:10:54.820 And when I go to him...
00:10:55.760 Because it's an ongoing thing, isn't it?
00:10:59.040 You're talking about guys who are all organising themselves for that particular purpose.
00:11:05.380 That is an organised criminal act.
00:11:08.520 Now, that is the monumental issue.
00:11:12.000 Obviously, we can look at individuals.
00:11:13.920 Say, like me and you.
00:11:14.920 We could be an individual.
00:11:16.520 We could be doing something online.
00:11:18.040 We are obviously not necessarily committing the act.
00:11:22.860 We're doing something called grooming if we did that online.
00:11:26.440 The fact is, these guys are in a community sending younger guys out to befriend these girls.
00:11:31.920 And then eventually they're being brought into an environment where they are taken forward.
00:11:37.320 Exactly.
00:11:38.180 That is organised crime.
00:11:40.040 Of course.
00:11:40.680 Like organised pedophilia.
00:11:42.380 They don't work in actual gangs.
00:11:43.720 They work online.
00:11:44.420 What is Amber Rudd to do?
00:11:47.400 What would you say to her to do about this problem if you wanted to actually cleanse this problem from the community that IE is the Muslim community? 1.00
00:11:57.920 Of course.
00:11:58.160 We need to give more resources to the police.
00:11:59.580 Number one, yeah?
00:12:00.260 But what would you say to Amber Rudd, sorry?
00:12:01.900 No, no.
00:12:02.240 I would personally say that to her.
00:12:03.600 Like I said, for example, increasing resources for the police.
00:12:06.240 Yeah?
00:12:06.460 Because if they don't have the resources, they cannot deal...
00:12:08.660 What could you expect them to do?
00:12:10.120 Another issue is that we should not brush problems under the carpet.
00:12:13.460 This is another big problem that's happening.
00:12:15.000 This is why we're all here today.
00:12:15.820 Exactly.
00:12:16.220 For the truth, my friend.
00:12:17.240 Exactly.
00:12:17.440 For the truth.
00:12:18.060 Because...
00:12:18.420 Because we're all being expected to go about our business.
00:12:21.380 Yes.
00:12:21.760 Not talk to one another.
00:12:22.720 Yes.
00:12:23.320 Not have this debate.
00:12:25.120 Yeah.
00:12:25.440 We're expected to not bring tension.
00:12:27.560 Yes.
00:12:27.920 I've taken all the photos of all the Metropolitan Police vehicles that are here today, left, right.
00:12:32.600 Yeah?
00:12:33.320 The simple fact is they're here because they expect us not to be tolerant.
00:12:37.020 They expect us to not work together and try to resolve the problem.
00:12:41.940 Yeah.
00:12:42.240 This is what we've got.
00:12:43.460 A problem.
00:12:43.960 Yeah.
00:12:44.300 Because I didn't take a fucking...
00:12:45.240 Of course.
00:12:45.280 So, so...
00:12:45.840 A mess problem.
00:12:46.600 Yes.
00:12:46.840 And they are not dealing with it themselves.
00:12:48.580 Of course.
00:12:49.040 And that's the issue.
00:12:50.360 Look, we have a problem.
00:12:51.240 And we're taking this step to deal with this ourselves.
00:12:53.940 Yeah.
00:12:54.140 Yeah.
00:12:55.260 No.
00:12:55.920 Any motherfucker.
00:12:56.520 If you fuck with the boys in blue, they'll fuck with you.
00:12:58.660 Brothers, brothers...
00:12:59.120 If you fuck with the boys in blue...
00:13:00.300 Let's calm down.
00:13:00.940 Calm down.
00:13:01.380 They said to me that I look the part.
00:13:02.960 I look the part.
00:13:03.600 Anyway.
00:13:04.000 Sorry, buddy.
00:13:04.620 So, my question is this, yeah?
00:13:05.900 We have a big problem, yeah?
00:13:07.220 You know what I sometimes find funny?
00:13:08.560 We have this massive problem in the UK, yeah?
00:13:11.360 We have homeless people are dying out on the streets, yeah?
00:13:14.160 We have grooming gang issues.
00:13:15.620 And be it Muslim or non-Muslim, the grooming gang issue. 0.95
00:13:18.520 We have pedophilia.
00:13:19.480 We have all kinds of sex trafficking going on.
00:13:21.580 We have extremists, be it Muslim or non-Muslim, yeah? 0.96
00:13:24.080 We have to...
00:13:24.960 We have to deal with this situation, yeah?
00:13:27.340 We are the new black people.
00:13:29.060 Brother, brother, calm down.
00:13:29.980 Please, please, please.
00:13:30.700 Calm down.
00:13:31.480 Calm down.
00:13:31.840 I know you're passionate, but let's not swear.
00:13:33.000 Let's calm down, yeah?
00:13:34.240 So...
00:13:34.680 Yeah, I know, I know.
00:13:36.880 So, we have these problems.
00:13:38.420 We have to deal with it as a whole community.
00:13:40.560 I should not say to myself, the grooming that's happening,
00:13:43.980 oh, it's white girls. 1.00
00:13:45.080 I'm a Muslim.
00:13:45.760 It's not happening to my daughter.
00:13:46.620 I don't care.
00:13:47.380 That's nonsense.
00:13:48.440 I need to question my whole existence.
00:13:50.640 If I can say to myself, it's a white girl being groomed, 1.00
00:13:53.680 I don't care.
00:13:54.800 That's disgusting.
00:13:56.020 I have to say, no, that could be my daughter.
00:13:58.820 Just because she's white. 0.99
00:13:59.800 So, we...
00:14:01.160 This is my problem here.
00:14:02.400 It's a child.
00:14:03.220 It's a child, for God's sake.
00:14:05.040 So, I would expect the same from you.
00:14:06.720 If you were to hear that a Muslim, my daughter,
00:14:09.480 has been groomed, what would you do?
00:14:10.800 We feel exactly the same.
00:14:11.860 Thank you.
00:14:12.540 So, we have something in common.
00:14:13.880 This is what we need to say to Amber Rudd right now.
00:14:15.620 You see, it's this, yeah?
00:14:16.420 It's like, the rich, they care about their daughters
00:14:19.120 because they're not the ones that go into public school.
00:14:21.560 They are private schools.
00:14:22.480 So, to be honest, we're in the same boat.
00:14:24.740 Muslim and non-Muslim. 0.92
00:14:25.660 Because the ones up high, they don't care.
00:14:27.720 All they care about is the money that goes in their pocket.
00:14:29.200 And me and you are here, made to be the enemies
00:14:31.640 who are going to fight each other.
00:14:32.860 And we're not going to allow that to happen.
00:14:34.360 We're going to help fight this cause, whatever it is.
00:14:37.580 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:14:38.300 And that's what I want.
00:14:39.480 And my sole, sole purpose,
00:14:41.500 and my problem with Tommy Robinson,
00:14:43.180 is the fact that when it's a Muslim, 0.92
00:14:45.380 he just goes full out.
00:14:47.240 Tommy's going to see this video.
00:14:48.500 That's my problem.
00:14:49.260 He's going to see all the footage.
00:14:50.640 He's going to see all the footage.
00:14:51.720 He does, he does.
00:14:52.520 Have you seen my debate with him?
00:14:54.680 Have you seen my debate with him?
00:14:55.960 Yeah.
00:14:56.440 Look, did it, how was your name?
00:14:58.240 What's your name?
00:14:58.660 He doesn't.
00:14:59.200 What's your name?
00:15:00.060 No, no, no.
00:15:00.880 Sorry, sorry.
00:15:01.460 My name's Ali.
00:15:01.980 Just, just as an introduction, yeah?
00:15:03.840 Hey?
00:15:04.260 Sorry.
00:15:04.980 Okay.
00:15:05.500 I'll call you S. 0.99
00:15:06.540 Lady S.
00:15:07.160 Lady S, yeah? 0.94
00:15:08.560 Look, I had a debate with him, yeah?
00:15:10.160 I know.
00:15:10.780 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:11.620 So I specifically asked him a question,
00:15:13.820 because he goes and says,
00:15:14.860 this book here,
00:15:15.960 teaching the killer.
00:15:16.580 He's so passionate about what's going on.
00:15:17.800 I know he's passionate,
00:15:18.880 but he's causing,
00:15:20.340 but hear me out, hear me out, yeah?
00:15:22.140 He wanted to fight him.
00:15:23.800 I wanted to fight him.
00:15:24.780 I think he wanted to fight him.
00:15:25.240 He wanted to fight me.
00:15:26.360 He was like,
00:15:26.600 I think you started that.
00:15:28.040 Was this the boxing match?
00:15:29.820 I said, I want to debate.
00:15:30.960 He goes, let's have a boxing match.
00:15:32.300 I was like, what's a boxing match?
00:15:33.180 It's going to be for charity.
00:15:34.060 Let's put that aside.
00:15:34.780 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:35.540 That was something else.
00:15:36.180 He said it, yeah?
00:15:37.180 I'm not about violence.
00:15:38.420 I just want to communicate.
00:15:39.320 Do you get what I'm saying?
00:15:40.460 All I'm saying is,
00:15:41.620 he claims my book,
00:15:42.800 the book that I follow,
00:15:43.600 teaches the killing of innocent people.
00:15:45.080 I said, Tommy,
00:15:45.580 you've written a book.
00:15:46.700 Why Muslims kill for Islam? 0.99
00:15:48.480 Now, when Darren Osborne reads that,
00:15:50.120 he's going to say,
00:15:50.620 look, these guys are outright to kill us.
00:15:52.820 That's why I don't blame,
00:15:54.060 like, you can see why Darren Osborne
00:15:55.800 went and did what he did.
00:15:56.940 Because he said,
00:15:57.600 there is a Muslim problem. 0.61
00:15:58.760 The government's not doing nothing about it.
00:16:00.280 I'm going to take matters into my own hands.
00:16:01.840 And this is the exact same thing
00:16:03.560 ISIS are doing.
00:16:05.380 This is why the like of Darren Osborne
00:16:08.000 needing to speak to someone
00:16:09.960 who represents that community.
00:16:11.800 Communication, exactly.
00:16:12.680 He would have got a different take.
00:16:14.220 Thank you.
00:16:14.800 That is my point.
00:16:15.560 That's why when Tommy said to me a boxing match,
00:16:17.240 I said, Tommy,
00:16:17.740 I want to talk,
00:16:18.680 not fight.
00:16:19.720 Because me fighting,
00:16:20.820 what's going to happen?
00:16:22.140 What's going to happen?
00:16:22.840 It's just like a feeling.
00:16:23.520 Confusion.
00:16:23.960 Exactly.
00:16:24.920 Why cannot we talk?
00:16:26.140 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:16:26.880 And when I did go to him,
00:16:27.840 I said, Tommy,
00:16:28.320 can you show me a verse
00:16:29.220 that claims that I should come
00:16:30.740 and kill this lady or you? 1.00
00:16:32.340 He did not give me one single verse.
00:16:34.400 But just to wrap it up,
00:16:36.040 in a nutshell,
00:16:36.900 it was nice talking to you, Justin.
00:16:37.840 And lady, yes. 0.76
00:16:38.820 Thank you.
00:16:39.120 I'll respect that on stage.
00:16:40.200 Thank you very much.
00:16:40.980 But, but,
00:16:41.600 Yeah, sure, sure.
00:16:42.900 Yeah.