Ali Dawah - March 19, 2018


SINCERE TALK ON GROOMING GANGS - MUST WATCH!! - speakers corner


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

203.80858

Word Count

3,407

Sentence Count

379

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I should not say to myself, the grooming that's happening,
00:00:03.420 oh, it's white girls, I'm a Muslim, it's not happening to my daughter, I don't care.
00:00:06.900 That's nonsense. I need to question my whole existence
00:00:09.780 if I can say to myself, it's a white girl being groomed, I don't care.
00:00:14.200 That's disgusting. I have to say, no, that could be my daughter.
00:00:18.280 Just because she's white, so, this is my problem here.
00:00:21.900 It's a child, it's a child.
00:00:22.820 It's a child, for God's sake. So I would expect the same from you.
00:00:25.980 If you were to hear that a Muslim, my daughter, is being groomed, what would you do?
00:00:30.240 We feel exactly the same.
00:00:31.500 Thank you. So we have something in common.
00:00:33.320 This is what we need to say to Amber Rudd right now.
00:00:37.780 This problem, and the actual mainstream media
00:00:41.120 are only now starting to take this serious, along with the government,
00:00:45.160 the police as well, begs to ask, when you look at Rochdale,
00:00:49.340 20 years apparently this has been going on.
00:00:51.820 How do you feel about that?
00:00:53.580 As obviously a devoted Muslim, how do you feel about being,
00:00:57.440 putting that light by your fellow brothers?
00:01:00.740 You've asked a very valid question, and I really thank you for that.
00:01:03.380 My point is this. Do you have a daughter?
00:01:05.920 I have a daughter, yeah?
00:01:07.040 I have a few daughters, yeah.
00:01:07.520 Okay, I have a daughter as well, yeah?
00:01:08.900 I understand.
00:01:09.320 I do not care if she, the girl is white, black, Muslim, non-Muslim, Christian, Jew.
00:01:14.820 She shouldn't come into it, should it?
00:01:15.620 Of course not.
00:01:17.000 The point that I have, the point, the point, what's your name by the way?
00:01:20.120 Justin.
00:01:20.520 Justin, I'm Ali, yeah?
00:01:21.340 Sorry, I haven't.
00:01:21.780 You've probably known me from Tommy Robbins' videos, yeah?
00:01:23.380 Yeah, yeah, I see you.
00:01:23.660 Okay, all I'm saying is this, yeah?
00:01:25.540 The way we hate, we should hate all kinds of acts.
00:01:28.160 You know what I find sickening?
00:01:29.480 Is that, do we have a problem with grooming gangs because the perpetrators are Asian Muslim,
00:01:35.400 or do we have a problem with grooming gangs because the act is wrong?
00:01:38.840 I'm saying we should all hate the act, no matter if it's done by a black, green, yellow,
00:01:44.160 blue colour, whoever it may be.
00:01:45.860 But the problem that I see is when the term Muslim comes into it, firstly, in Islam, as
00:01:51.260 you know, I had a discussion with Lauren Southern.
00:01:53.460 Have you seen it?
00:01:54.160 No, I'm not.
00:01:55.140 She's a Canadian YouTuber.
00:01:56.440 She said to me, Ali, can you shake my hand?
00:01:58.440 I said, with all due respect, just as the Jews have a belief, I am not allowed to touch
00:02:02.200 the hand of a female.
00:02:02.960 If in my religion, I am not even allowed to touch the hand of another female, how could,
00:02:08.480 how could, thank you, thank you.
00:02:10.080 Kevin, yeah?
00:02:10.980 Justin.
00:02:11.480 Justin, sorry, sorry.
00:02:12.080 So, Justin, all I'm saying is our religion full out condemns raping girls, drinking alcohol,
00:02:19.940 going clubbing, taking drugs.
00:02:21.740 These scumbags in Russia, wherever it is, I have, all over the country, yeah?
00:02:25.920 All over the country.
00:02:26.300 I swear to God, I have no problem.
00:02:29.040 See, that's the problem I have.
00:02:30.660 That's the problem I have.
00:02:31.320 Basically, what?
00:02:31.960 When it's paedophilia, do I go and say Christian white men?
00:02:35.900 I don't, because I know you're not like them.
00:02:38.020 So, why am I being brought into a category where I, look at paedophilia.
00:02:43.760 No, no, no, no, look, look at, look at the, no, no, no, this is what I'm saying.
00:02:47.420 No, no, no, hear me out.
00:02:49.680 Paedophilia, when we look at paedophilia, it's majority white males.
00:02:53.420 No, no, no, no, no, hear me, hear me, hear me, hear me, it doesn't make you right.
00:02:58.240 I'm not saying it makes you right.
00:02:59.720 It doesn't make you right.
00:03:00.140 So, you're talking about an act.
00:03:02.180 So, Justin.
00:03:02.960 We need, obviously, to see a more stringent action in, by people in the communities, the government, the police, especially.
00:03:11.480 100%.
00:03:11.800 100%.
00:03:12.720 I am with you 100%.
00:03:15.960 When I went to Tommy Robinson, let me make something very clear, yeah?
00:03:19.320 With Tommy Robinson, I did not go to Tommy Robinson and say, hey, what are you going after Muslim grooming gangs for?
00:03:23.420 Hey, what are you going after?
00:03:24.640 I have no problem with him going after grooming gangs.
00:03:27.840 And I swear to God, I have no problem joining him.
00:03:29.660 But my point is, why is it when it's only Muslim grooming gangs?
00:03:32.940 You feel a certain type?
00:03:33.940 Yes, I'm saying we should go after grooming gangs, be they're Muslim or non-Muslim.
00:03:38.380 Terrorists, be they're Muslim or non-Muslim.
00:03:40.080 That's my problem.
00:03:41.260 Because I have a daughter.
00:03:42.540 Do you really think if I knew your daughter is being grooved, then I'm going to be like, oh, it's a white girl, who cares?
00:03:47.680 I swear to God, I don't want to say anything on camera, but you get the point, yeah?
00:03:52.000 I will deal with the situation, yeah?
00:03:53.680 And then I'll buy the grace, yeah?
00:03:55.460 I've got one of your friends, who's a fellow Muslim.
00:03:57.860 His name is Noah.
00:03:58.700 Really nice chap.
00:03:59.880 He works on behalf of Cancer Research.
00:04:02.860 I asked for a lot of feedback on how this is deemed.
00:04:09.000 By obviously those that are respectful to Allah, and those that are respectful to the understanding of society's expectations.
00:04:18.840 Yes, yes.
00:04:19.300 And I was quite convinced that he was a genuine man, and that he answers well on behalf of, obviously, the Islamic followers.
00:04:27.880 And as a result of that, it opened my mind up even more.
00:04:31.160 That's the whole point.
00:04:32.880 But what we have, as you have said, is a monumental problem.
00:04:36.580 Just like the Catholic hierarchy.
00:04:38.840 And the monumental problem in Britain is being undermined.
00:04:42.660 And the whole reason for everyone here today, including yourself, is the truth has to prevail.
00:04:48.360 Yes.
00:04:48.580 And what the government are trying to do is use...
00:04:53.040 Brush it under the carpet.
00:04:53.980 They're trying to use different races, whether it's black and white, and loads of other ethnic backgrounds, against Muslims.
00:05:03.360 Because, basically, we are being led to believe you are the aggressors.
00:05:08.320 Exactly.
00:05:08.520 You are the biggest problem that this country has faced.
00:05:11.580 Exactly.
00:05:12.180 I'm not necessarily agreeing to that.
00:05:14.360 I understand that there are these ripples.
00:05:17.100 Yes.
00:05:17.320 But, what we have to look at is how to deal with this effectively.
00:05:21.420 We're all here for that reason.
00:05:22.660 Yes.
00:05:22.940 This is an ongoing problem.
00:05:24.420 It's not actually eradicated by the law, by the process of judicial trials.
00:05:30.240 Or the government, Home Secretary Amber Rudd, taking it bloody serious.
00:05:34.280 What Amber Rudd has done is basically say, it's acceptable to allow this...
00:05:39.520 Sorry.
00:05:41.040 Come here, come here.
00:05:42.040 Sorry.
00:05:42.160 To allow this to be ongoing, as if it's our problem, just our problem, not theirs.
00:05:48.780 Let's get on with the problems inside Parliament.
00:05:50.900 That's what they want to do.
00:05:51.500 It's everyone's problem.
00:05:52.840 This issue of grooming gangs...
00:05:54.580 Inside Parliament, not outside of it.
00:05:57.260 And this is society.
00:05:58.520 We are taxed by everyone.
00:05:59.860 We pay our taxation.
00:06:01.140 We're paying for many services, and we expect protection for our families.
00:06:06.200 All of us have that right.
00:06:07.600 What we need to see is that people understand one another's positions, and not turn around
00:06:13.980 and isolate sectors and community, because it is easy enough to do so.
00:06:18.620 Because on one hand, we're being expected of being tolerant, and go about our business
00:06:23.360 as if nothing's happened after a bombing, and not pressurise another group to do more.
00:06:29.800 Say, in the Muslim community, to do more.
00:06:32.080 But it does have to be a joint effort.
00:06:33.960 We do need to accept that this is actually happening.
00:06:37.620 Unfortunately, there are wolves in sheep's clothing.
00:06:40.300 They're amongst the actual community of Islam.
00:06:43.680 And how are people going to deal with that?
00:06:46.660 It's not just the police's job.
00:06:48.360 It's not just the society.
00:06:49.580 It's not just the job of government.
00:06:51.240 It's the job of society.
00:06:53.300 All of them.
00:06:53.800 And if I was to look at you straight, and father to father today, and turn around and
00:06:58.460 say, please, spread your word to the communities of the greater Muslim followers, that this is
00:07:07.000 happening amongst them.
00:07:09.500 How is it going to be handled?
00:07:11.720 Because you need to utilise the police, local MPs, to aid you to eradicate this problem in
00:07:19.300 these communities.
00:07:20.400 You can see it's brewing.
00:07:21.640 I mean, we don't want this problem between the divide.
00:07:24.500 This is a great nation.
00:07:26.280 Let's do what we set out to do.
00:07:28.080 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:07:28.800 Go to work, have our families, protect them, enjoy our lives, and do it together.
00:07:34.120 Exactly.
00:07:34.500 Let's do it together.
00:07:35.340 That's exactly my point, Justin, because you made very valid points there.
00:07:39.020 Because you need to understand that, I said it before and I'll say it again, we have to
00:07:43.120 come together to eradicate the problem.
00:07:45.520 My issue with Tommy Robinson is, I don't know if he's had a bad experience with Muslims, I don't
00:07:50.140 know what his problem is.
00:07:50.860 But what he does is, the moment I go in this tweet, it's like what the Jews went through
00:07:55.440 in Nazi Germany.
00:07:56.580 The Jews were vilified.
00:07:58.260 And Hitler didn't come and say, today we're going to kill all the Jews.
00:08:01.480 No, it was a process.
00:08:03.200 Vilification.
00:08:03.780 They're evil.
00:08:04.360 They want to kill us.
00:08:05.160 They want to attack us.
00:08:05.960 They're raping our girls.
00:08:06.660 Till it came to a point where Hitler said, kill them, they were ready to do it.
00:08:11.200 So...
00:08:11.440 Go on there.
00:08:13.020 Where's your water?
00:08:14.440 I'm fine.
00:08:14.940 I'm fine.
00:08:15.200 Yeah, no problem.
00:08:15.900 So, the question here is that what Tommy Robinson is doing is that he's vilifying a certain
00:08:21.620 community, yeah?
00:08:22.560 I don't know why.
00:08:23.720 I personally believe maybe he had a bad experience with Muslims in Newton where he lived.
00:08:26.840 Have you actually asked Tommy outright yourself what is his reason?
00:08:30.480 I had a phone conversation with him.
00:08:32.720 I've met Tommy, and as far as I'm concerned, he's a passionate father as well.
00:08:37.040 Of course.
00:08:37.360 He believes, obviously, in protecting the fundamental values.
00:08:40.960 Yes.
00:08:41.320 And, obviously, there is a lot of challenge towards Tommy.
00:08:43.880 You saw what happened last Saturday.
00:08:46.280 The attack on him last Saturday.
00:08:48.720 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:49.140 I think this is an attack on an individual who is representing a mass population of people
00:08:56.300 who want justice to be served.
00:08:59.520 Of course.
00:08:59.580 They want an eradication of these actual grooming cases.
00:09:02.400 Yes.
00:09:03.060 Put aside, we know what their actual nationalities are.
00:09:06.420 Yes.
00:09:06.680 Pakistani heritage.
00:09:07.800 Okay.
00:09:08.120 Obviously, that of an Islamic...
00:09:09.540 So, what about an Islamic following?
00:09:11.900 But, obviously, their following is that of being a Muslim.
00:09:16.860 So, they're tarnishing your side of community by their own standards.
00:09:22.480 But we have that, as you pointed out earlier.
00:09:24.820 There are British and English white people doing this.
00:09:28.620 I'm seeing.
00:09:29.400 I'm seeing.
00:09:31.100 Why does it have to be?
00:09:32.400 Or Muslim grooming gangs.
00:09:33.900 Exactly.
00:09:34.180 Or, for example, Christian thieves or Hindu car robbers.
00:09:39.180 That's it.
00:09:39.600 That's it.
00:09:39.880 The problem here is this, yeah.
00:09:41.040 Our religion outright condemns this act.
00:09:45.000 So, these people, by the basis...
00:09:46.620 It's an identification.
00:09:47.760 This is what it is.
00:09:48.560 It becomes an identification.
00:09:49.220 You can say they're Asian.
00:09:50.420 You can say maybe it's an Asian problem.
00:09:53.160 I haven't needed it.
00:09:53.900 You might say that.
00:09:54.740 But where does Muslim fit into that?
00:09:56.800 I'm still trying to figure it out to this day.
00:09:58.560 Yeah, I'm saying.
00:09:58.580 Do you get it?
00:09:59.220 Do you get it?
00:09:59.560 Now, I've actually seen him tweet about white people.
00:10:04.000 But should I tell you...
00:10:06.220 No, you're right.
00:10:07.500 But should I tell you why?
00:10:08.440 Because I think...
00:10:10.080 I might be assuming the worst of him, yeah?
00:10:11.420 But I know if he was to do only tweeting Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, he's going to look wrong.
00:10:16.220 So, to be fair, to be fair, he's posting every now and then a white guy doing this act.
00:10:22.180 But the problem here is this.
00:10:23.740 I have a problem with the act that is done.
00:10:26.100 Not with the background of the person that's doing it.
00:10:29.000 I'm saying terrorism, killing innocent people is wrong.
00:10:31.880 I don't care what colour you are.
00:10:33.560 Grooming girls is wrong.
00:10:35.500 I don't care what colour you are.
00:10:36.960 Paedophilia is wrong.
00:10:38.040 I do not care what colour you are.
00:10:39.360 But with Tommy, it seems it's...
00:10:41.280 Okay, what's happened today?
00:10:42.920 Grooming girls.
00:10:43.360 Okay, are they Muslim?
00:10:44.020 No?
00:10:44.240 Okay.
00:10:45.120 Hold on a second.
00:10:46.460 You should hate the act.
00:10:48.560 That's how I feel.
00:10:49.780 That's how I feel.
00:10:50.540 But why is it that he concentrates so much on Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, Muslim?
00:10:54.820 And when I go to him...
00:10:55.760 Because it's an ongoing thing, isn't it?
00:10:59.040 You're talking about guys who are all organising themselves for that particular purpose.
00:11:05.380 That is an organised criminal act.
00:11:08.520 Now, that is the monumental issue.
00:11:12.000 Obviously, we can look at individuals.
00:11:13.920 Say, like me and you.
00:11:14.920 We could be an individual.
00:11:16.520 We could be doing something online.
00:11:18.040 We are obviously not necessarily committing the act.
00:11:22.860 We're doing something called grooming if we did that online.
00:11:26.440 The fact is, these guys are in a community sending younger guys out to befriend these girls.
00:11:31.920 And then eventually they're being brought into an environment where they are taken forward.
00:11:37.320 Exactly.
00:11:38.180 That is organised crime.
00:11:40.040 Of course.
00:11:40.680 Like organised pedophilia.
00:11:42.380 They don't work in actual gangs.
00:11:43.720 They work online.
00:11:44.420 What is Amber Rudd to do?
00:11:47.400 What would you say to her to do about this problem if you wanted to actually cleanse this problem from the community that IE is the Muslim community?
00:11:57.920 Of course.
00:11:58.160 We need to give more resources to the police.
00:11:59.580 Number one, yeah?
00:12:00.260 But what would you say to Amber Rudd, sorry?
00:12:01.900 No, no.
00:12:02.240 I would personally say that to her.
00:12:03.600 Like I said, for example, increasing resources for the police.
00:12:06.240 Yeah?
00:12:06.460 Because if they don't have the resources, they cannot deal...
00:12:08.660 What could you expect them to do?
00:12:10.120 Another issue is that we should not brush problems under the carpet.
00:12:13.460 This is another big problem that's happening.
00:12:15.000 This is why we're all here today.
00:12:15.820 Exactly.
00:12:16.220 For the truth, my friend.
00:12:17.240 Exactly.
00:12:17.440 For the truth.
00:12:18.060 Because...
00:12:18.420 Because we're all being expected to go about our business.
00:12:21.380 Yes.
00:12:21.760 Not talk to one another.
00:12:22.720 Yes.
00:12:23.320 Not have this debate.
00:12:25.120 Yeah.
00:12:25.440 We're expected to not bring tension.
00:12:27.560 Yes.
00:12:27.920 I've taken all the photos of all the Metropolitan Police vehicles that are here today, left, right.
00:12:32.600 Yeah?
00:12:33.320 The simple fact is they're here because they expect us not to be tolerant.
00:12:37.020 They expect us to not work together and try to resolve the problem.
00:12:41.940 Yeah.
00:12:42.240 This is what we've got.
00:12:43.460 A problem.
00:12:43.960 Yeah.
00:12:44.300 Because I didn't take a fucking...
00:12:45.240 Of course.
00:12:45.280 So, so...
00:12:45.840 A mess problem.
00:12:46.600 Yes.
00:12:46.840 And they are not dealing with it themselves.
00:12:48.580 Of course.
00:12:49.040 And that's the issue.
00:12:50.360 Look, we have a problem.
00:12:51.240 And we're taking this step to deal with this ourselves.
00:12:53.940 Yeah.
00:12:54.140 Yeah.
00:12:55.260 No.
00:12:55.920 Any motherfucker.
00:12:56.520 If you fuck with the boys in blue, they'll fuck with you.
00:12:58.660 Brothers, brothers...
00:12:59.120 If you fuck with the boys in blue...
00:13:00.300 Let's calm down.
00:13:00.940 Calm down.
00:13:01.380 They said to me that I look the part.
00:13:02.960 I look the part.
00:13:03.600 Anyway.
00:13:04.000 Sorry, buddy.
00:13:04.620 So, my question is this, yeah?
00:13:05.900 We have a big problem, yeah?
00:13:07.220 You know what I sometimes find funny?
00:13:08.560 We have this massive problem in the UK, yeah?
00:13:11.360 We have homeless people are dying out on the streets, yeah?
00:13:14.160 We have grooming gang issues.
00:13:15.620 And be it Muslim or non-Muslim, the grooming gang issue.
00:13:18.520 We have pedophilia.
00:13:19.480 We have all kinds of sex trafficking going on.
00:13:21.580 We have extremists, be it Muslim or non-Muslim, yeah?
00:13:24.080 We have to...
00:13:24.960 We have to deal with this situation, yeah?
00:13:27.340 We are the new black people.
00:13:29.060 Brother, brother, calm down.
00:13:29.980 Please, please, please.
00:13:30.700 Calm down.
00:13:31.480 Calm down.
00:13:31.840 I know you're passionate, but let's not swear.
00:13:33.000 Let's calm down, yeah?
00:13:34.240 So...
00:13:34.680 Yeah, I know, I know.
00:13:36.880 So, we have these problems.
00:13:38.420 We have to deal with it as a whole community.
00:13:40.560 I should not say to myself, the grooming that's happening,
00:13:43.980 oh, it's white girls.
00:13:45.080 I'm a Muslim.
00:13:45.760 It's not happening to my daughter.
00:13:46.620 I don't care.
00:13:47.380 That's nonsense.
00:13:48.440 I need to question my whole existence.
00:13:50.640 If I can say to myself, it's a white girl being groomed,
00:13:53.680 I don't care.
00:13:54.800 That's disgusting.
00:13:56.020 I have to say, no, that could be my daughter.
00:13:58.820 Just because she's white.
00:13:59.800 So, we...
00:14:01.160 This is my problem here.
00:14:02.400 It's a child.
00:14:03.220 It's a child, for God's sake.
00:14:05.040 So, I would expect the same from you.
00:14:06.720 If you were to hear that a Muslim, my daughter,
00:14:09.480 has been groomed, what would you do?
00:14:10.800 We feel exactly the same.
00:14:11.860 Thank you.
00:14:12.540 So, we have something in common.
00:14:13.880 This is what we need to say to Amber Rudd right now.
00:14:15.620 You see, it's this, yeah?
00:14:16.420 It's like, the rich, they care about their daughters
00:14:19.120 because they're not the ones that go into public school.
00:14:21.560 They are private schools.
00:14:22.480 So, to be honest, we're in the same boat.
00:14:24.740 Muslim and non-Muslim.
00:14:25.660 Because the ones up high, they don't care.
00:14:27.720 All they care about is the money that goes in their pocket.
00:14:29.200 And me and you are here, made to be the enemies
00:14:31.640 who are going to fight each other.
00:14:32.860 And we're not going to allow that to happen.
00:14:34.360 We're going to help fight this cause, whatever it is.
00:14:37.580 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:14:38.300 And that's what I want.
00:14:39.480 And my sole, sole purpose,
00:14:41.500 and my problem with Tommy Robinson,
00:14:43.180 is the fact that when it's a Muslim,
00:14:45.380 he just goes full out.
00:14:47.240 Tommy's going to see this video.
00:14:48.500 That's my problem.
00:14:49.260 He's going to see all the footage.
00:14:50.640 He's going to see all the footage.
00:14:51.720 He does, he does.
00:14:52.520 Have you seen my debate with him?
00:14:54.680 Have you seen my debate with him?
00:14:55.960 Yeah.
00:14:56.440 Look, did it, how was your name?
00:14:58.240 What's your name?
00:14:58.660 He doesn't.
00:14:59.200 What's your name?
00:15:00.060 No, no, no.
00:15:00.880 Sorry, sorry.
00:15:01.460 My name's Ali.
00:15:01.980 Just, just as an introduction, yeah?
00:15:03.840 Hey?
00:15:04.260 Sorry.
00:15:04.980 Okay.
00:15:05.500 I'll call you S.
00:15:06.540 Lady S.
00:15:07.160 Lady S, yeah?
00:15:08.560 Look, I had a debate with him, yeah?
00:15:10.160 I know.
00:15:10.780 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:11.620 So I specifically asked him a question,
00:15:13.820 because he goes and says,
00:15:14.860 this book here,
00:15:15.960 teaching the killer.
00:15:16.580 He's so passionate about what's going on.
00:15:17.800 I know he's passionate,
00:15:18.880 but he's causing,
00:15:20.340 but hear me out, hear me out, yeah?
00:15:22.140 He wanted to fight him.
00:15:23.800 I wanted to fight him.
00:15:24.780 I think he wanted to fight him.
00:15:25.240 He wanted to fight me.
00:15:26.360 He was like,
00:15:26.600 I think you started that.
00:15:28.040 Was this the boxing match?
00:15:29.820 I said, I want to debate.
00:15:30.960 He goes, let's have a boxing match.
00:15:32.300 I was like, what's a boxing match?
00:15:33.180 It's going to be for charity.
00:15:34.060 Let's put that aside.
00:15:34.780 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:35.540 That was something else.
00:15:36.180 He said it, yeah?
00:15:37.180 I'm not about violence.
00:15:38.420 I just want to communicate.
00:15:39.320 Do you get what I'm saying?
00:15:40.460 All I'm saying is,
00:15:41.620 he claims my book,
00:15:42.800 the book that I follow,
00:15:43.600 teaches the killing of innocent people.
00:15:45.080 I said, Tommy,
00:15:45.580 you've written a book.
00:15:46.700 Why Muslims kill for Islam?
00:15:48.480 Now, when Darren Osborne reads that,
00:15:50.120 he's going to say,
00:15:50.620 look, these guys are outright to kill us.
00:15:52.820 That's why I don't blame,
00:15:54.060 like, you can see why Darren Osborne
00:15:55.800 went and did what he did.
00:15:56.940 Because he said,
00:15:57.600 there is a Muslim problem.
00:15:58.760 The government's not doing nothing about it.
00:16:00.280 I'm going to take matters into my own hands.
00:16:01.840 And this is the exact same thing
00:16:03.560 ISIS are doing.
00:16:05.380 This is why the like of Darren Osborne
00:16:08.000 needing to speak to someone
00:16:09.960 who represents that community.
00:16:11.800 Communication, exactly.
00:16:12.680 He would have got a different take.
00:16:14.220 Thank you.
00:16:14.800 That is my point.
00:16:15.560 That's why when Tommy said to me a boxing match,
00:16:17.240 I said, Tommy,
00:16:17.740 I want to talk,
00:16:18.680 not fight.
00:16:19.720 Because me fighting,
00:16:20.820 what's going to happen?
00:16:22.140 What's going to happen?
00:16:22.840 It's just like a feeling.
00:16:23.520 Confusion.
00:16:23.960 Exactly.
00:16:24.920 Why cannot we talk?
00:16:26.140 Do you get what I'm trying to say?
00:16:26.880 And when I did go to him,
00:16:27.840 I said, Tommy,
00:16:28.320 can you show me a verse
00:16:29.220 that claims that I should come
00:16:30.740 and kill this lady or you?
00:16:32.340 He did not give me one single verse.
00:16:34.400 But just to wrap it up,
00:16:36.040 in a nutshell,
00:16:36.900 it was nice talking to you, Justin.
00:16:37.840 And lady, yes.
00:16:38.820 Thank you.
00:16:39.120 I'll respect that on stage.
00:16:40.200 Thank you very much.
00:16:40.980 But, but,
00:16:41.600 Yeah, sure, sure.
00:16:42.900 Yeah.