TRANSGENDER HINDU TELLS MUSLIM TO IDOL WORSHIP - LIVE
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In this episode, we have a special guest who is a transgender Muslim and a transgender Hindi Muslim. He shares his views on issues such as gay rights, lgbtqia rights and whether muslims have a future in India.
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there's this other god pharaoh jack and he if he if you don't pray enough he'll cast a spell upon
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you called brimstone and basically you'll get bad luck but do you see what's happening now
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now what's happening is you have this innate disposition to worship god alone but because
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you've broken down into segments you have these all these demi gods that you need to be like okay
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i need to do this or this god will do this to me good so i go to the one god with many attributes
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rather than one god with demi uh sub categorized individuals who are doing different jobs you
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what i'm trying to say become disbelievers or monaphics but those who excel towards god
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it's not based on color what skin color you are how many you know what you have etc what money you earn
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or hierarchy of how much wealth you have etc no we believe every human being has a potential to get
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closer to god by his righteous deeds not by his color not by what your hierarchy is this this is not in
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islam this is injustice and allah has negated injustice to himself think about it if someone
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created created like like a website okay let's let's get this website created like a suit or
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something and he had different like administrators for the website would you go straight to suit or
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would you go to the different administrators i will go straight look the analogy you're giving
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i will go to the one look i will go to the one who is the master that if a fly was to come in front
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of the idol brahma whatever you wish now where you want to call and the fly was to take its food
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it can't even protect its food from the fly just listen to me yeah so now imagine you're praying
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but you've got five problems today financial somebody upset you you're going through an illness now
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you're thinking oh i need to write down i need to go to this god for that that god for this
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um hello um okay i'm much i'm from india i'm a transgender hindu and um i was running what
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your views are on lgbtqia rights and whether muslims have a future in india okay do you mind i just want
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to know if you're sincere do you mind if we can see your face um okay one second it's like it's just
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you know we get trolls and stuff like that and you troll that once three seconds you have three
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seconds and then you're off you know just reminding you guys but yeah okay so all right
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i appreciate so yourself you you are a trans hindu yes okay so and
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okay you're right so okay so um yeah so what's our views uh are you asking so you're asking as
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not my views about islam yeah yes yes okay so what i would say is very simple um that in islam
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we believe that anybody that um dresses up as a man that dressed up as a woman or a woman that
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dressed up as a man we believe the curse of god is on them now this is obviously a it's a general ruling
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however like i said to you before um that we don't believe we believe that whatever god is willed
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if allah has willed god almighty has willed that you are a man you are a man and now can you would
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you have tendencies or you know what i want to be a woman i feel that these are things that we are all
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tested with yeah there are there are muslims who are tested with homosexual tendencies there are
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muslim men who just can't help but sleep around there are women who go and sleep around these are
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tendencies that we need to control why because the greater purpose in our life is to worship god
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and him alone and survive the test of life and when we go to paradise we will have whatever we want
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there that is obviously a thing that is not against what allah has decreed so the whole purpose is this
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what's your name by the way um my name is alvik alvik alvik alvik yeah so in the in the last show my uh my dear
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brother my friend is that look we're just here to be tested we have desires left right center and we
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believe even if you're an lgbq like you know you know trans etc you have a relation you should have a
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relationship with god god does not hate you dislikes you it's the sin so you should you can still have a
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relationship with god and you said you're a hindu so you believe in multiple deities yeah so my main
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deities are um vishnu and this is unknown one it's called copson um okay so tell me about vishnu
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who's vishnu okay so basically in the um there's there's like a hindu tri-environment um so vishnu is
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one of brahma's like sons basically and he represents like rebirth and all of that and i'm he's like
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one of like the main ones in my family he's been passed around through generations so that's why okay
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so you know brahma so brahma who's brahma okay so you know you have like allah in islam right
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so yeah yeah brahma is basically the creator in the hindu religion okay so does brahma have an
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image um not really he's kind of described you can there's like it's but no one really like knows
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wow so so so does brahma is he is he um is there statues of him is there idols of him yes okay so he
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does they have given a phone to him yeah yes okay so you said the other one was vishnu yeah and okay
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what characteristics does he have that brahma doesn't have that brahma needs him okay so basically
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um vishnu is one of like brahma's sons brahma has like one daughter and two sons and brahma doesn't
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like control like the world anymore he's above that now and so his sons are in control of it and his
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daughter and his sons also have sons sons and they're like forms of the father in other ways
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like um this one cobson he's also another main one he's one of the sons of vishnu okay so does
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brahma have daughters um yes he has two sons one daughter okay so in a nutshell we believe this is
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idol worship and we are giving different attributes it's like it's like us believing in allah and making
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each attribute divine so there's for example no making the angels the angels divine so what we're
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seeing is this my uh my dear uh brother is that look we believe that god is one he does not have
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partners he has attributes we believe allah has 99 names that we know of he has attributes that belong
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to him so his attribute of all-knowing there's not an all-knowing son or an all-knowing god uh god
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or or all-knowing this or he's the all-knowledgeable that doesn't mean there's a separate demigod
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so what we're seeing is that our fitrah fitrah means your innate disposition is created for what
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that we accept that god is one and you deep down actually believe that that's why we believe every
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child is born a muslim until their families make them what they are so to me this concept that you
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have of brahma vishnu this person that person we're saying worship god alone now if god look
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god has to be one if god has more than one partner there will be chaos would you not accept that
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no because i think like cops and is very like influential like keeping the world in check
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okay so see so what that means is this now god has brahma has who's what's he called kropna
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kopsin kopsin so kopsin so what that means is cannot brahma do that on his own that he needs kopsin
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well brahma is above that now he's he's like okay if he's if he's if he above that means that
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at one moment he was below that so that's a weakness in god that we negate so what that means
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is if at one moment brahma had these attributes which is not praiseworthy and he's above that now
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that means god at one point had these traits that doesn't befit him we say that doesn't befit god
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because we don't say he's above that now and now he's given this job to his son or daughter do you
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get what i'm trying to say it's a blasphemy against god we say allah has always been perfect and is
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perfect he has always been the all-knowing not at one moment in time he was not knowledgeable like
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jesus like christians believe that jesus is god and he chose to be ignorant he didn't know the season
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of the fig or he didn't know when the hour was we say you cannot negate these attributes that belong
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to the creation to the creator this is what we call shirk we say god is the all-knowing and has
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always been all-knowing he's all wise and he's always always he's the creator and he's always been
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the creator even though there was no creation so we say that those attributes belong to god alone
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why divide it into segmentations and then say oh he was like this before because you're attributing
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weakness to god you get it you would accept that god cannot never be weak right yeah but think
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there's two there's two traits okay so there's heavenly traits which we call arian and there's
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earthly traits which is like the gods that treat us the earthly traits are called jami
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okay but this is this is again uh uh my dear friend once you talk about earthly traits and heavenly
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traits again it falls into this is why i came to islam i looked into a bit of hinduism before i came to
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islam this is one of the reasons i rejected hinduism and christianity because it's kind of similar
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why because it's like earthly characteristics heavenly characteristics we believe god has
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one one essence in the sense where it doesn't change oh today god is weak but he will be strong
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in heaven on the earth he's weak but in heaven he's strong we don't believe this concept we believe
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god in his true nature does not have this characteristics of a human being look today i can
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be strong i went to the gym i benched this i went boxing but tomorrow i fell ill and i'm weak
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so what i'm saying is that that only belongs to the creation like me i'm weak i can become stronger
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but allah is the most powerful and always the powerful so do you see why there's problems in
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that aspect because now you've turned god into like it's like a it's like a circus do you get what i'm
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trying to say yeah but there's there's like things that you could do to not become weak in hinduism we
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call being weak brimstone um and we it's basically like an effect if you do if you don't pray enough
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yeah okay so so so again like by the way look it's the thing is here just just want to touch on this
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is that we are you're saying there are things in hinduism that we believe that one can do to not be
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weak are you talking about a human being or god um okay so there's there's this other god pharaoh
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jack and he if he if you don't pray enough he'll cast a spell upon you called brimstone i'm trying
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to explain this in english terms that's why it's kind of like off but it's called brimstone and
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basically you'll get bad luck but do you see what's happening now now what's happening is you
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have this innate disposition to worship god alone but because you've broken down into segments you have
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these all these demigods that you need to be like okay i need to do this or this god will do this to
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me do you see what you've done like if you think about in essence you actually believe you want to
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believe in the oneness of god like we do but what you've done is now you've got these multiple gods
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divided into different sections of different characteristics and you're like if i do this i'll
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be cursed by that that god is controlled of that now you are serving multiple because in my head i'm
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like okay i know allah is the one that can punish me i don't think of another demigod i just think
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allah has his characteristics he's the all wise so number one i trust him in his judgment when
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something happens to me in my life and it doesn't make sense i'm like i trust my god because he's
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the all wise good so i go to the one god with many attributes rather than one god with demi uh
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sub categorized individuals who are doing different jobs you get what i'm trying to say so your essence is
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that you you have the inclination of believing in one god you just have these different demigods and
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i'm just saying why don't you worship god alone which is allah well and then and then you can say
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you know what for example if i shouldn't wrong people because what i want that for myself and
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allah can punish me instead of thinking oh no there's this other demigod i need to make sure
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because i don't want to get cursed by him do you get what i'm trying to say yeah so there's a group of
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people called brahmins and they believe that they're directly playing the brahma um it's like
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it's a sort of thing called like baby c does is islam basically like baby c does it accept that
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no no we don't we don't have this hierarchy so in hinduism you have hierarchy yeah okay we don't have
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this we believe everybody in the sight of allah is equal and those who get close to allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
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um like as human beings but those who transgress become disbelievers or monaphics but those who
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excel towards god it's not based on color what skin color you are how many you know what you have
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etc what money you earn or hierarchy of how much wealth you have etc no we believe every human being
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has a potential to get closer to god by his righteous deeds not by his color not by what your hierarchy
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is this this is not in islam this is injustice and allah has negated injustice to himself why would
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it be just that somebody has a hierarchy getting closer to god or have connection to god why i have
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a potential as a person who may have been far away from god coming to islam and being better than
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somebody who's been a muslim all of his life it's based on taqwa it's based on your god consciousness
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and being closer to him do you get what i'm trying to say so this racism or like hierarchy this is not in
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islam my brother do you believe in interface marriage i believe in interfaith marriages
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islam and as a muslim man can marry a christian a jew but we are not allowed to marry idol worshipers
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neither um muslim woman married allowed to marry a christian jew or idol worshipers but muslim man
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can marry a christian and a jew yeah so why oh what made you say that in um in india there was a
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a muslim boy dating a hindu girl recently and the hindu girl basically got like like beat up at the
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at the store what is yeah it's horrible who got who got beat up the muslim boy um no it was a hindu girl
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oh the hindu girl got beat up for marrying a muslim yeah well you see this is the issue you know this is
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this is like i said to you before you know at the end we don't have this concept of being beaten up we
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just say the marriage is invalid yeah we don't go and beat the muslim woman up or the man we don't
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believe that yeah but in an essence let's come back to tolkit my my brother why do you not
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worship god alone why don't you worship god is one there's nothing like him look for example in
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the quran that we say say he allah is one he's self-sufficient you know when you talk of brahma
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has this this that self-sufficient means he needs no body he does not beget nor is he begotten and there
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is nothing like him so why this concept why don't you come to islam worship god alone you don't
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have to have this hierarchy this that etc you worship the one true creator which is deserving
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of worship and this is the way we understand brahman to be as well it's hakika meaning actual
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reality is only with god but but but but the but their but their attributes of brahma is totally
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different because they they believe he was so no i'm saying originally if you go back to the
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origins even if you define brahman if you define what brahman what it actually means
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it's very close to the way okay it's it's very close but like brahma for example if it's let's
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say brahma was let's say the way they explained it we're like okay that's like what we believe is
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allah yeah but even the name we don't call allah brahma no no we don't say that yeah but the essence
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in itself it is yeah because i know some people are going to clip this out and be like oh he's trying
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to say brahma is allah he's not saying that yeah you're yeah it's it's what he's saying is this
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that true concept of brahma from the beginning could have been that it's the worship of the one
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true god what we're saying is distorted now so what i'm saying to you my brother is that
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why don't you worship god alone just him one god think about it like a company do you go to the ceo
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for minor requests if i want to be kind i prayed a wholesome soy jack if i wanted to be um like
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calm i prayed a calm jack if i wanted to be something you know you don't go to the higher up
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for minor but do you see do you see okay why can't you go to the higher up what's stopping you
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why do you have to go to this different deity you said when i need this i go to that it's like you
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go it's like you got so many different people you go to for different stuff we're seeing we have i
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have a hundred problems and i go to one god you're seeing i have a hundred problems i go to a hundred
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different gods yeah so why they can help you to your needs correctly no no no no no one second
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330 million divas no no there is there there is but one second something really profound one second
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you are saying that i need to go to individual it's like an expert in that field yeah is that
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what you're saying yeah i'm saying allah allah listen my friend my brother allah is the best
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advisor in all of your problems i repeat again the one true god any problem that you have he can
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be the jack of all trades but he cannot specialize in one no that's t what you find is attributed a
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human trait to god because because a man can't do that you're thinking about a man oh if i need this
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i go to this specific if i need to get my card and i go to a mechanic i need my tire shop i go to the
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tire shop the tire shop cannot be the mechanic the mechanic cannot be the accountant the accountant
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cannot be the solicitor we are talking about the creator you're talking about the creation
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you're equating the creation to the creator my brother you've got a million problems there is
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one true god that can deal with them in the best way himself not you do you understand that this is
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why you're stuck worship god alone i'm inviting you to islam that true creator i'm telling you i've
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been a muslim for 11 years all my problems i go to him he solves them or he makes me patient and
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gives me something better he solves them i don't go to hundreds or different that's i do that in the
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human being i need to get a haircut go to my hair dress i don't go to my mechanic yeah they are the
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creation you're equating the creation to the creator the creator is far greater than the creation
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do you understand so what do you mean from accepting islam think about it if someone created
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created like like a website okay let's let's give this website creator name like suit or something
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and he had different like administrators for the website would you go straight to suit or would
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you go to the different administrators i will go straight look the analogy you're giving i will go
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to the one look i will go to the one who is the master of all of that i'm not going to go to those
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who are like yeah i'm a supervisor i'm a manager now i've i want to go to the source and that is
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god almighty why do you want to go to these people who are not experts and or false theities that cannot
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even benefit you for example like allah says in the quran that if a fly was to come in front of the idol
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brahma whatever you wish now where you want to call and the fly was to take its food it can't even
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protect its food from the fly how are you worshiping things that you have made with your own hands
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you're you're a transgender hindu yeah you can be a trans you can be a look you can be i'm not
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saying that you should be but you can be a trans trans muslim you're a muslim but you're committing
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a sin okay i'm telling you at least come and have worship of allah alone at least die on la ilaha illallah
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look we accept you we accept you with your sin we don't we don't say that it's a good thing we
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accept you why don't you accept islam have one source that you go to with all your problems man forget
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i'm gonna go to vishnah sometimes you might even get the names mixed up oh support i was supposed
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to be uh what was it crop crop now what was it yeah i was supposed to go to him oh no his name i
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forgot my brother one name you need one name that will solve all your problems allah all of your
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problems allah just one name you don't even need him if i was that i would get confused man
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oh who's vishnah for ah i got confused i went to i went to vishnah for the wrong thing i was supposed
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to go to the other one allah one god so i'm inviting you to islam and you know what i will
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teach you how to pray i will give you you know this prayer man yeah my dear brother we want islam
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for you look look you will we will teach you how to pray you see here brother look i will teach you
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how to pray step by step yeah and imagine you worshiping god alone when you pray imagine you look
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let me tell you something yeah something very profound yeah i'm gonna go imagine my charger real quick
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but i'll be okay no problem just just listen to me yeah so now imagine you're praying but you've
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got five problems today financial somebody upset you you're going through an illness now you're
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thinking oh i need to write down i need to go to this god for that that god for this do you understand
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the beauty of going to allah and saying oh allah i have all my problems and i only have you to turn
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to and you know imagine how power just keep that bro you're going to one creator for all your
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problems rather than going to multiple creators with multiple problems hinduism is the oldest
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continually practice no no no no no no no we islam is the oldest religion we believe islam came
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from day one islam didn't come 1400 years ago just so you know yeah islam came from adam from day dot
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yeah so what we're seeing is that islam's message was that god is one so what i'm seeing is this one
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look in a nutshell like obviously um i want to also help you ask your question but we've got limited
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time like i said before when you go to pray when you go to pray you have if you have five problems
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pertaining to different areas of your life you're gonna have to go to five demigods i if i have 20
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problems i go to one god yeah and i ask him for the problems for all of them all of them and he has
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the capabilities of answering all of them so look islam is there it doesn't have hierarchy it's the
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worship of one god and believe me you're just thinking about the creation he can't do this i
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will do and listen you know very well it is much better to go to the king directly and go to his
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sub this person that person to the governor this that you know what that means that king doesn't
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have time for you if you had the opportunity yes go to the king exactly who would you want to go
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simple question the king let's say the king of the world yeah let's say there's a king an individual
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and he has all these governors and mayors and this that etc and you have to talk to him and your
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problems and what about if he says to you what about the king says to you i am open to listen
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to you yeah you you you amongst all the people he wants to listen to you and all those other people
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well yes who would you he could listen to me but he wouldn't be able to listen to all the other people
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no but i'm saying to you allah has the capability let's hear something if every single person on earth
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was praying to god he listens to every single one and can answer every single one that is who allah
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is do you understand you you do you understand the belief we have about god oh it's it's like
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you know how you have peace be upon him so when you say brahma so once you like reference one like
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the way he will always be a gem okay yeah oh no no no no no no no no but anyway no no we can't say
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no we can't say that we can't no i'm saying you did i'm just i'm just letting him know that yeah we
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we we can't say that yeah um so anyway so what we're trying to say is my brother is that you know
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what you said about unity like how can god listen to everything look in the definition it says this
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the thing that unifies the unity behind all diversity that one point where everything
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it's it's it's it's yes true and also one thing i want to add though is that there's certain
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terminology used there that we don't believe in like consciousness and he's like he is all in we
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don't believe this concept that allah is all in one etc i don't think he's like a gem yeah yeah
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because you know what it is their definition might be a little bit different consciousness we
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don't believe in consciousness yeah so just i just need to give that disclaimer because again
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people i know what's gonna happen yeah so so guys so does that make sense probably in a nutshell
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yeah um i'm calling you to worship one god so is dawud just worshiping one god you have many
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problems like i said before he can hear all of them so the choice is yours i invite you to islam
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if you would like to come uh it's the worship of one true god you worship him alone um and you
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can be you are a trans person you said you can still be a muslim you know so yeah so would you
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it's up to you i'll leave the ball in your court um okay i think i'm gonna say hindu i'm gonna
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practice um soja party okay um shouts out sam tyler um sorry say that again oh i said i think i'll
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continue to be a hindu for now but okay that's fine totally yeah totally there's no in islam we
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believe there's no compulsion in religion yeah we've conveyed the message to you and the rest is
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up to you i call you to the worship of one god uh but carry on look we would like to hear from you
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throughout ramadan yeah we're here he was a very lovely person yes polite ask questions listened uh so
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yeah it was really nice talking to you and please join us throughout ramadan thank you very much
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okay bye thank you thank you thank you really appreciate really appreciate these kind of
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calls and you know what yeah as we was talking the donation of coming in we are literally 210
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pound away from our our target the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam said whoever builds a
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masjid for the sake of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam allah will build for him a similar house
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in jannah on that day where allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam tells us that our books will be given
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and every little atom weight of good deed you've done will be there and imagine you see a mountain
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and you're like what a lucky person which righteous person and allah says this is for you for me yes
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what did i do you allow people to pray you built a masjid i never had the money to build a masjid
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oh allah you helped you gave towards it and allah gives you the reward of as if you've built it
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