00:12:07.720philosophical and cultural and international and political?
00:12:15.760Well, for me, I am just hanging out here in Central Asia, and I work all the time just
00:12:23.380lecturing around, consulting with different schools, and I really love working with students.
00:12:27.740So as an academic, I'm kind of the lowest form of that, where I refuse to do any research and
00:12:32.780just want to hang out and teach the entire academic discipline of English and literature
00:12:40.000and philosophy all day. So I just work with students. And unfortunately, the land prices
00:12:44.380here have become astronomically hyperinflated due to the American and Russian conflict in Ukraine1.00
00:12:50.840where all these Russians are around. So I don't know what to do. I'm in a bit of a panic. I wanted1.00
00:12:55.060to buy a new piece of land or an apartment every year. And now I cannot do this because those damn0.99
00:13:00.080Russians invading my territory. So I have nothing else to do. My friend has called me up and says,1.00
00:13:06.320hey, you got to start getting on Twitter. And I say, I don't want to hang out on social media,
00:13:10.900the technological system. Have you not read Ted Kaczynski? Do you not know the fate of using the
00:13:16.100internet will be to become some degenerate? And sure enough, I have nothing else to do with my
00:13:20.280free time other than stare at the brutalist architecture that surrounds me and the depths
00:13:25.240of the smog here. So naturally I began writing on the internet, but unfortunately I write like
00:13:30.580an academic, which means I'm accustomed to writing hundreds of pages in real life. And so naturally
00:13:35.920I would write threads, 40, 50 pages long, pages long, posts long. And I would keep writing these
00:13:43.200vast articles and doing these lectures and nothing would come of it, you know, for a year,
00:13:49.320really no followers, no connections, no businesses from this. And I'm thinking, my God,
00:13:55.220I'm never going to reach my goal of buying new property every year at this rate. This is
00:13:58.700ridiculous. And eventually some fellow saw some of my videos with my nomadic tribes here. And he0.66
00:14:05.020said, hey, we'd love to bring 20 or 30 people over for horseback riding. Do you think you could
00:14:09.540arrange something like that? So naturally, I sunk $40,000 into horses and created the
00:14:15.360longest tour experience in the entire world of more than 500 kilometers horseback riding that
00:14:21.820I personally forged myself along with two of my nomadic friends here. And I organized the locals
00:14:28.280together to provide experiences for this group of 20 Americans who we took over to the country
00:14:33.460of Kyrgyzstan in 2025 in August of this year. We do a 10-day trip, two days with my eagle hunter
00:14:41.080friends. Normally we have, uh, our Eagle hunters here, there's only 31 of them, which is a little
00:14:46.760bit small of a population. So for a big treat, I was able to strap a camera onto the back of a
00:14:53.040Eagle for the first time. And we were able to go hunting with that animal. And the rest of the eight
00:14:58.900days, we were going between 70 and a hundred kilometers per day, 10 to 12 hours on horseback
00:15:04.240in day and night living just in tents on the steppe to cross a large percentage of the country
00:15:11.380going 5,000 meters above sea level on horses with people who frankly haven't really ridden before.
00:15:18.000And I myself am certainly not the best at riding horses. I mean, yes, I did Sunday. I go play
00:15:23.100Coke Peru with the local people and I'm going, you know, hundreds of kilometers in my free time,
00:15:27.700but I've really only been riding for a couple of years. So it was a surprise to me and leading
00:15:32.240the expedition just quickly. Sure. So Kokporu is our local sports game. I know you Americans
00:15:41.920and European folk are accompanied with basketball and football, but we don't do any of that
00:15:47.640nonsense here. We are a strictly horse based folk. Now, what does that mean? It means that we have
00:15:54.640livestock. That's our bank account. And what you do is gamble with your bank account. The locals
00:16:01.280will pitch in, they'll get a sheep, they'll decapitate the sheep head or the goat head,
00:16:05.880they take the head off, and then they fight over the carcass because you have to tenderize the
00:16:10.560meat before you can eat it. And this idea of tenderizing meat and turning it into a competition
00:16:16.040is the game in itself where you have two teams of riders, 12 on one team, 12 on another, and
00:16:22.800they're trying to pick up the goat carcass from the ground. We typically lodge it between our legs
00:16:27.440And then we gallop from side to side in the field to put the carcass into the tai khasan, which is the goalpost.
00:16:35.680It's like a giant ceramic dish made of concrete.
00:16:39.940And the person that gets three goals first, the team that gets three goals first, normally would win the game.
00:16:45.280If you're at a more professional tournament in Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan for the World Nomadic Games,
00:16:51.640where nomads from all across the world come and frolic and play our traditional sports,
00:16:56.400You'll see that these games could be for in-timed events to see how many goals you can score across three different periods, and if you ever have a tie, you have to get the golden point, the tiebreaker point, to win the game, and the winner, of course, gets to eat the now very tenderized sheep for their team alone, the most desired part being the brain.
00:17:18.520So playing that is what we normally do here on Sundays.
00:17:22.900uh very different than than football but uh yes i want to get that in there for for our listeners
00:17:34.220because you just explained it to me before we started recording uh but uh so you have
00:17:41.080invested in this business business you've got your horses you've done several tours for
00:17:48.920for various Americans on this long route that you've scouted yourself.
00:17:57.660Yes, it took about, I think about a full year to go throughout the country and gather allies
00:18:03.800and organize the allies, have them work under me, follow my command, and then also personally do
00:18:09.420this expedition myself beforehand. And I'd like to specify that I am American, meaning I refuse0.76
00:18:16.920to learn other languages. So my communication with them is strictly in English, meaning we
00:18:21.300don't actually communicate. They just follow my commands naturally and intuitively, which is a
00:18:25.740very unusual way of doing business, in my opinion. The English hit upon this as well. You encounter
00:18:34.100this in old Victorian literature. It's a technique you wouldn't expect to work, but it does.
00:18:41.560uh but you have developed this on now you are like uh probably one of the premier people for like um
00:18:53.520for like adventure tourism off the beaten path that yet not necessarily requiring uh full-on
00:19:05.020athletes the way um mountaineering expeditions would or like similar things like that you
00:19:11.700recently did a tour of the ho chi minh trail
00:19:16.620yeah so i lived in vietnam for a very long time with all types of ethnic tribes there i believe
00:19:24.660in total um the population of vietnam is 99 uh king people and the one percent is divided into
00:19:33.68064 different ethnic tribes. The Americans are most familiar with the tribe of the Hameng,
00:19:39.440and I am most familiar with people like the Tai Dan or the Zhao. And a couple summers ago,
00:19:47.340I gallivanted. Normally, I would live on the northern Chinese border, but I went down to
00:19:52.480the center region to visit some friends there. And I was just wandering in the city, and I said,
00:19:58.260hey, I got to get out of here. Please excuse me. If you guys go back to a different region,
00:20:02.640I'm going to stay here just for two extra days. And I just randomly met a tribal elder in the
00:20:10.880city and he picked me up on his motorcycle within 30 minutes of being introduced to him. And we
00:20:17.300drove off to see his ethnic tribe, who I am now an honorary friend with. And they were telling me
00:20:23.440all these wild stories about their tribal land being thousands of hectares and no foreigners
00:20:29.940ever go there. And they just have these herds of saula there. And the saula is, we translate in
00:20:37.440English as the literal unicorn. Now, a unicorn is a ancient bovine species. You can think of it as
00:20:45.600a type of antelope in appearance, and it is a very large mammal. It has only been seen four times
00:20:53.900in modern history. It was found in 1991 in Laos. And it was unusual to hear these claims because
00:21:02.940only one usually is seen at a time. The last trail camera photo was in 2013. So naturally,
00:21:10.080I need to do an expedition to go and find this animal. Now, there's a lot of people who have
00:21:14.420been trying to find this animal. It is the rarest in the world. And I've organized my tribal contacts
00:21:19.600to in december uh so that would be next week i suppose oh god next week um i'll be living with
00:21:26.440my tribe for about a month and i'm going to organize four different teams of workers under
00:21:32.580me to basically survey the entire jungle region that they inhabit the land that is under their
00:21:39.380control with trackers rangers and the village people so that i can be i guess the first person
00:21:46.200actually find this animal in the wild and then build a conservation program around it. And once
00:21:52.540I get that tour route satisfied with these tribes, then I'm going to be bringing Americans over there
00:21:58.340again in January and February. But because it's your show, I should be very clear that my tribal
00:22:04.100friends have a very unique background where they sided with the Americans during the Vietnam War,
00:22:09.920meaning they are guerrilla warfare experts, but not against Americans, against the Viet Cong.
00:22:16.040So we, the Americans, invested all this money into this particular region, and everyone there actually speaks fluent English even today, which is very unusual.
00:22:24.900And hopefully I can actually design an experience where ideally I could take like maybe a grandfather and a grandson or a father and son trip, and we can go over there and we can see the life of the tribes and get their perspective, the people who actually sided with the Americans and learned some new warfare techniques.
00:22:40.700So I think that'd be really cool in the future to provide for you, for example.
00:22:43.340this man is creating tours where you go to the lost kingdom where america won the hearts and
00:22:54.380minds of the vietnamese to find the unicorn and this is all real i want you to appreciate that
00:23:02.440this is all real do dear listeners this is not a script we wrote um but you can't write a script
00:23:11.740I mean, it's absurd. Like, you know, there's an American investing tens of thousands of dollars into a horseback riding operation in Central Asia. That doesn't mean anything to anybody. Then the income I receive from that goes directly to finding like the rarest animals in the world. That doesn't make any sense.
00:23:27.880And then that's like my genuine investment strategy where I've read so much of Ted Kaczynski that I'm now reviving these weird plantation structures and these investing all my money in horses rather than automobiles.
00:23:41.560I mean, my life makes absolutely no sense, especially to myself living it.0.81
00:26:35.860when i grew up i was an alpaca farmer and we i actually had the privilege of having the only
00:26:46.040purple alpaca in the entire world now that's a very strange sentence a purple animal there's only
00:26:53.420one of them and i was able to work on that farm and see that at an early age so i have this
00:26:59.760incredible experience where i could be around this like weird genetic anomaly every day and of
00:27:05.140course, you know, as a farmer and you grow up in like the future farmers of America and you run
00:27:10.800your own chapter, you know, these are incredible experiences to have access to when I was younger.
00:27:17.840And, you know, if I wasn't working with my alpacas, I would be working as a butcher. I didn't go to
00:27:24.020necessarily a normal high school in a sense. I was always working with different farmers to help
00:27:30.200them become food sufficient. You know, people would bring in deer all the time and I'd be
00:27:34.260staying after school until late into the wee hours of the night, just cutting up animals and
00:27:39.180butchering them for free and managing my local community. So I was always somebody who had
00:27:43.460access to this sort of self-sufficient group of people or the last self-sufficient group in this
00:27:49.080very urbanized state and environment. And when you grow up with these types of, you know,
00:27:54.540mythological heroic types, which is the farmer agrarian in the American context, I mean,
00:28:00.060that's the most inspiring environment for a young man to have. And when I was young, I'd always
00:28:04.820appreciated the grand adventurers like Steve Irwin from the Animal Planet. And I myself just
00:28:11.240spoke earlier this week to, I would say, the foremost famous wildlife biologist currently
00:28:17.740living with his own show, Forrest Galante. So I've never really veered away from that sort of,
00:28:24.020you know, heroic image in my mind of the American agrarian. And I've always had this
00:28:29.280unique interest with animals. Now, of course, animals I moved away from and began to focus
00:28:35.520more on humanities and philosophy because my grandfather himself is a minister. He would go
00:28:41.640around America and move to all these states and established Presbyterian churches, and he would
00:28:46.720never talk about Jesus. I've actually never once heard my minister grandfather a single time talk
00:28:51.580about Jesus, and I think that was very important because that means that my God in this religion
00:28:55.680would be Nietzsche. My grandfather was very close with learning from Freud and Nietzsche and all
00:29:01.400these really neat sort of existentialist philosophers. So that was the environment
00:29:04.980that I grew up in was always philosophy and kind of frontier farming with strange and unusual
00:29:10.540animals. And so naturally, when you finish up your bachelor's program in school, you'd throw
00:29:17.880yourself overseas. Sure, you know, so being around my grandfather all the time, I had to take
00:29:25.280academics very seriously. And I was never very good at taking academics seriously, because well,
00:29:30.560you know, all my professors were faggots, you go to a liberal university, and everybody supports,1.00
00:29:36.480you know, protesting against the horrid fascist Republican state. And I saw in 2016, when I was1.00
00:29:44.420in my first degree, people would be violently, violently rejecting Donald Trump. And I always
00:29:50.220thought that Donald Trump was some radical leftist. So it was confusing for me to see people who are
00:29:54.600more left-wing than Donald Trump. And I kept seeing my own countrymen scream and cry and
00:29:59.600piss themselves in fear at the horrors of fascist dictatorship that the Americans were thrown under.
00:30:04.840And I found this to be some terrible agony that my people were so divided in the political. It
00:30:11.140really took away from my focus on my profession at the time, which was a comedian. And I then
00:30:17.100decided to venture around the world looking for a solution, understanding the communist enemy,
00:30:21.860so to speak, how my people could be so radically possessed by a kind of foreign ideology. And
00:30:28.000naturally, when you question communism, your options are China, Vietnam, or North Korea.
00:30:33.740So I got a plane to Vietnam and started living off in the jungle for a few years to understand0.63
00:30:38.840And those people, the pandemic happened, which I knew was fake and gay immediately because I was living on the Chinese border at the time.0.95
00:30:45.960And then I came back to America, got some very serious academic degrees, and now I live with nomadic people here, which suits me just well, in short.0.95
00:30:55.820All right. And now your intellectual development. Kaczynski, how are you exposed to Ted Kaczynski?0.99
00:31:04.360well i didn't really care about this thinker at all um my group and i used to work very closely
00:31:14.260with some american friends and throughout the pandemic period we began to understand that
00:31:19.660nations don't actually exist they're like some fake narrative that we force one another to
00:31:28.440believe in, but to suggest that free and independent nations are now alive would be
00:31:35.340absurd. They had all the same exact 100% response to a global catastrophe. First, they believed
00:31:44.620that there was a virus, which never existed, and then they all believed that locking their people
00:31:51.080in their home was the most virtuous thing to do. And 100 percent, perhaps you could say 90 to be
00:31:58.640kind, just simply said, fine, we would love to lock ourselves in our homes and hyperinflate
00:32:04.220our currency. And we would also love afterwards if you then invaded us with our own tax money
00:32:09.980by individuals from foreign lands who could freely plunder our coffers and rape our women. Yes,0.99
00:32:15.880that's what we want to do as Americans and Europeans. And I found all of these events
00:32:21.160absolutely ridiculous. So I formed together with my allies and we created a sort of self-sufficient
00:32:27.720homestead in Armenia for a very brief time. And unfortunately, my allies, we were not able
00:32:33.380properly to secure Armenia due to some issues with me being able to go there. I was enrolled
00:32:39.900in an academic program at the time. I didn't feel like finishing up my master's degree sooner rather
00:32:44.940than later, and they had a terrible time surviving there without me to communicate with the local
00:32:50.880folk. So my response to the entire global system being very obviously fake and controlled was
00:32:57.740merely to create a sort of Amish settlement for my friends and I, hence my philosophy modeled
00:33:03.000after the Amish, the Mennonites, called Mennonite imperialism. It is a natural extension from the1.00
00:33:08.420way that we had previously lived and responded to the pandemic. And I found it absurd how all
00:33:14.760of these people seem to just worship technology. And the result of worshiping technology, living in
00:33:20.480a modern system, was to merely be a slave who was shackled into his home, his currency hyperinflated,
00:33:26.520and so on and so forth. So after this period of time, I needed to see if other thinkers had the
00:33:32.480same ideas that I was seeing and living in real life. And of course, the answer is Jacques Ellul,
00:33:39.060with his book on the technological society speaks about how, quote, the machine has become
00:33:45.080autonomous, or I suppose the technique has become autonomous of the machine. So the machine itself,
00:33:51.580the technological system has its own unique will. When I critique technology, I'm not talking about
00:33:56.800the physical structure of technology. I'm talking about this abstract sort of will that Jacques
00:34:01.040Alul outlines. And of course, writing online, you can never get someone to listen to Jacques Alul.
00:34:06.340No one knows who that is, even when I say him.
00:34:08.720So naturally, for clickbait purposes, I have to talk about Ted Kaczynski.
00:34:12.020But I don't really care about Ted Kaczynski whatsoever.
00:34:14.680I just use him for views on the internet to get people to understand my traditionalist philosophy that I'm living and writing about and establishing a discipline in.
00:34:25.420That is actually clever, latching on to the meme philosopher branding to just like sub in.
00:34:36.340Sure. I mean, it helps that he's right about everything, but I could care more or less whoever writes the ideas. I just care about the idea itself. I mean, there's only – I don't know. In terms of people who live, there's an abundance of tribes that live the philosophy that I espouse. That's who I learn from personally, but it's not like they write literature on it. So naturally, you're gravitated toward your two options of Jacques Ellul or Ted Kaczynski, and that's all we have, I think, in the anti-technological thinker space.
00:36:08.620Is the great man the 16, the 17, the 1800s wanderer who manifested destiny on the frontier?
00:36:15.680Is he the mountain man of Appalachia? Is he the minute man who has fought in the Revolutionary War to claim the American identity? Is it the members who followed George Washington's command and began scalping Indians to protect their folk?
00:36:29.540When we consider superiority of the Western variety, it is always grounded in access to frontier conditions and the embracing, the revival, the revitalization of the Aryan step nomad ideal, at least in the American context.
00:36:47.300So when I see these folk online talk about, oh, the wonders of AI, we can all sit at home and we can type endlessly away on our laptops.
00:36:58.360Yes, this is the pinnacle of life where we are taxed endlessly for our pathetic labor that is tied to the amount of items we can move around in a spreadsheet.
00:37:09.020the modern man is the ideal form. And I say, no, no, no, time goes backwards. We are not
00:37:14.500progressing into some utopian ideal. We are rapidly degenerating in an endless downturning.
00:37:22.420And rather, when we speak of the superiority of Western man, it is to go back in time to revive
00:37:28.600self-sufficient practices of folk power and to be entirely independent from the system of decline
00:37:35.600of which we are all imprisoned toward. And these ideals are what I speak of, self-sufficiency as
00:37:42.580the alternative for the total degeneration decline of our people, the reclamation of our frontier
00:37:49.480ethos as a unifying battle cry. This is absurd to speak about left versus right, of communism
00:37:55.940versus capitalism. It is all irrelevant. Rather, to take our destiny into our command again and
00:38:26.980both in terms of actually going to the steppe,
00:38:30.120But intellectually, you're the only person I've seen talking about Hesiod, which this has been like an obsession of mine for a while.
00:38:43.440I've started and stopped and then restarted and restopped trying to popularize the theogony and Hesiod's destruction of the creation of the universe and how this actually overlaps rightly with, like, Lovecraft and a lot of, like, the very apocalyptic thinkers of kind of the reaction to...
00:39:13.440to modern science and like this uh how the very first creation myth parallels
00:39:21.280the darkness of like uh of like the most the horrific philosophers we have have today but
00:39:31.260you've been taking he said's work and and not his description of the birth of the gods but his
00:39:38.940description of the cycles of man and you've been pulling out this uh elaborate philosophy that i
00:39:46.800i really haven't seen people engage with uh elsewhere or like apply to modern
00:39:54.040foreign philosophy that i i found quite distinctive to you
00:40:00.100well it's not distinctive to me terribly sorry to say um i studied under the premier
00:40:08.740I believe, Greek philosopher in the world who introduced me both to Hesiod and the idea of
00:40:14.240life in Armenia, for example. So I can very much thank Christopher Moore for that introduction.
00:40:20.040However, in terms of Hesiod, and this is just, you know, we have a pop audience,
00:40:25.020we're dealing with right-wing radical members. What are we talking about when we're right-wing?
00:40:29.100Are we merely going to be opposed to the left? Are we merely going to be anti-communist? Are
00:40:33.000we merely going to be anti-leftist? No, this is absurd. We have an authentic Western tradition
00:40:39.140that we can uphold. And what is the origin of Western tradition? Is it Plato, Socrates,
00:40:44.180and Aristotle? No, it's the pre-Socratics. We have a thinker by the name of Hesiod who predated0.95
00:40:48.860Socrates, and he very clearly laid out the way that traditionalist people think, which is in
00:40:55.260terms of cycles. The cornerstone of the modern person's belief system is predicated on the
00:41:00.920notion of progress, which is that we are advancing forward in time, whereas the ancient folk thought
00:41:08.160in terms of cycles, where you have, I suppose that would be the swastika, where time is moving
00:41:13.140in the four seasons, or time is moving into four ages. And each age, a man becomes further and
00:41:20.280further removed from God, and God ends the age with smiting them with some type of global
00:41:28.880catastrophe. If you look in Zoroastrianism, the first sort of religion, I suppose, maybe to be0.99
00:41:34.500written down, you could argue, the Zoroastrians believed that the end of the cycles would come
00:41:39.180a massive fire. And in between the cycles, you would have massive global cataclysms in the form
00:41:46.240of a flood. And so you can see that as degeneracy is increased, it is a clock in which man notices
00:41:53.500the rapidity of his demise. In the Quran, it is likened to birthing pangs, where the birthing
00:42:00.520pangs get faster and faster and faster until the baby of the conflagration is born, the great fire.
00:42:05.580Now, originally, when reading these texts and understanding the cyclic form of thinking,
00:42:10.580my comprehension is that a global cataclysm is to come. Unfortunately, I predicted a global flood.
00:42:17.080I think this time it is more logical to suggest it could be a fire. Now, the reason I live the
00:42:22.260furthest point away from an ocean is because obviously if you're predicting a global flood
00:42:27.300to come you'd want to be at the point where there is the least amount of water but also the highest
00:42:33.620skilled population. What you would understand is in Zoroastrianism particularly they suggest the
00:42:38.780earth is sort of consumed in a global fire and the people to rise out of this fire would be sort
00:42:44.220of nomadic people. I'm generalizing but my strategy was if there's going to be a global flood I better
00:42:49.280live with nomadic folk now so that we would be able to survive the flood from the furthest0.99
00:42:53.680point away from the ocean. And then naturally, once the flood recedes, so to speak, you would0.92
00:42:59.420be able to take your nomadic population and begin reconquering the world and starting civilization0.98
00:43:03.460again. So I'm saying that as sort of a hyperbolic thing of something I legitimately practice. I'm0.94
00:43:09.380not saying I necessarily believe in it despite practicing it in real life. But I am suggesting
00:43:13.280that if someone was to take these ancient texts very seriously, and you would claim to be a
00:43:19.000traditionalist you would be mirroring my actions in reality yes uh that that adds up very well and
00:43:28.960it overlaps i think with a lot of the instincts that uh many of our listeners have have i quite
00:43:36.660like that that you are oh i'm not quite sure i believe it but i i'm practicing it when of course
00:43:44.600The standard is to do the opposite, is to believe something quite sincerely and then do nothing about the fact that you believe it.
00:43:53.160I mean, this is a very radical thing to believe.
00:43:57.360I just like the listeners to understand about the necessity of living philosophy.
00:44:03.020So, again, the idea is that ancient people believed in cycles and cataclysms, and that if you are an actual philosopher, you would be taking these so seriously that you would spend the entirety of your life preparing against a cataclysm.
00:44:15.880Whether or not you believe in it or not, that is the actual basis of, I believe, all tradition, that idea of cyclical time.
00:44:23.780no 100 and this this is a recurring part of like many different traditions so the greeks
00:44:34.760and the mediterraneans uh famously the greeks uh that we know uh the ones who call themselves
00:44:43.700greek uh the ones who produce the elide the odyssey and the socratic philosophers and all that
00:44:50.980And Greece emerges in the Dark Age after the collapse of Mycenaean Greece, after the sea people had destroyed, destroyed basically all the civilizations of the Mediterranean with like one or two partial exceptions.
00:45:13.740And they're writing immediately after a dramatic collapse of civilization, like on a par with the fall of Rome, but it's Mycenae, it's not Rome.
00:45:29.560And the cycle of Mediterranean civilization is these like a thousand-ish year cycles that Mycenaeum falls after it's been unified so much.
00:45:53.080and Rome falls and Mediterranean civilization collapses again0.96
00:46:00.260in this great conflagration that Islam arises and whatnot.1.00
00:46:07.140But we have examples of cultures where the civilization collapses0.91
00:46:15.960and Armageddon's happen very frequently.
00:46:20.200Like a German culture is, like, almost entirely defined by the fact that they have something this apocalyptic almost every hundred years or so.
00:46:35.660Like, clockwork, 20 to, in some cases, 50% of Germany will die every 100 years, and its civilization, in a lot of ways, basically hard resets.
00:46:53.700like the the actual institutions of germany are profoundly unstable in this respect and it would
00:47:01.200be dramatic except for the fact that germany is uniquely at the intersection of of the empires
00:47:08.040and so anyone who's not living there uh uh sees it from the perspective of it being like a gradual
00:47:18.660thing because it's because these cultural changes are gradual everywhere else but the idea of like
00:47:25.400a cyclical uh history and the the cycles of destruction and interbirth are quite dramatic
00:47:36.580uh we have very plain examples that this is recurring greatly china has like
00:47:45.580every 200 300 years something on a part with this happens it's point consistent like goes with
00:47:55.180china it correlates heavily with the rebel yellow river but uh he sees its thesis of cyclical
00:48:03.220history and these rises and falls in these golden ages and these ages of decadence these ages of
00:48:10.600profound decay. He has a very specific description, but we know that the comparable cycles are
00:48:23.800happening elsewhere. Basically, all the time we see it, and you can see... I know commentators
00:48:34.100who are gaga about Pierre Tarchin and secular cycle,
00:50:23.640called tartaria i i yes yes i know like the meme version of it but i don't know like the actual
00:50:33.720like formal hypothesis version of it okay so just to be clear i'm going to turkmanistan like the
00:50:42.700only american that's allowed to do tourism routes in turkmanistan and i and the alleged hypothesis
00:50:48.160of tartaria is that there used to be and this is a meme ladies and gentlemen this is a meme we're
00:50:52.780talking about a meme. The meme of this is that there was like an ancient civilization that was
00:50:57.420more advanced than our world, and that this was a global empire that was centered primarily in
00:51:03.260Central Asia and connected with the continent of America. And you can go throughout the world and
00:51:09.360marvel at the ancient wonders of the Tartarian forgotten empire that was once destroyed by a vast
00:51:16.560mud flood. However, some nations like Turkmenistan, you can see they very clearly with their strange0.97
00:51:23.220architecture may be living remnants of this type of hidden ancient civilization. And I would
00:51:30.440actually like to take these schizo members to Turkmenistan and guide them there to show them1.00
00:51:35.520whether this theory that they so ardently believe is true or false. However, the point is, I would1.00
00:51:41.280like to give these people access to Hesiod as a thinker, because Hesiod does suggest that this
00:51:47.380mythical golden age, we would think of Atlantis from Plato's description, the ancients were far
00:51:53.180more superior than we are. We cannot understand the pyramids now as we cannot understand these
00:51:57.480hidden civilizations within the Amazon that perhaps someone like Grand Hamcock would talk
00:52:02.820about. So there is some evidence of our architecture that implies that there may be
00:52:08.420a more advanced civilization that predated our own, and however long ago that may be,
00:52:14.720it is unknown. But Hesiod, if you were a schizo-ancient-civilizational believer,
00:52:19.820like a Tartarian, Hesiod is the historical advice that you would use to verify your claim.
00:52:25.080He perfectly verifies that theory, and I so ardently wish that these Tartarian folk would
00:52:30.860simply just read him and learn about the ages. They could actually have an entire academic
00:52:35.060discipline of thinkers that would agree with their crazy schizo ideas that's my little plug1.00
00:52:40.100hope you can forgive me for bringing up such a ridiculous notion on the show here well tartaria0.98
00:52:45.060the mean version of it that uh actually all these beautiful old buildings that you see
00:52:51.660if you tour detroit or whatnot you're touring like this ruin of a town yet you're seeing
00:52:57.400uh golden statues in bronze of like great warrior goddesses and stuff on the side of buildings uh
00:53:08.180this is very plausible to anyone who lives in the american rust belt or who lives in the former
00:53:17.320british empire because tartaria like the my grumpy canadian version of this is tartaria is
00:53:26.900real. It was called the British Empire. And as soon as the British Empire fell, all of a sudden
00:53:32.500beautiful architecture died everywhere around the world. And this is actually our genuine problem.
00:53:40.960So, you know, just to tie things up for the benefit of your readers, what is the value of
00:53:45.540cyclical time? It's you can understand that the enemy is decline in itself, is degeneracy in
00:53:52.680itself. When we speak about superiority, we speak about empire. We speak about a connection with
00:53:58.280the gods, so to say. And it is only because we are going backward in time, so to speak,
00:54:04.080or downward. We are declining. We've come away from our foundational traditional principles that
00:54:09.080all is decaying around us. And Hesiod makes this marvelous point. He says, well, there's these four
00:54:15.280ages of time, the gold and the silver, the bronze and the iron, and now we're in the Iron Age. There
00:54:21.400is no escape cry cry pp but he says well there's also this one age of people called the heroic age
00:54:28.440the age of heroes and these magical heroic force of wills arose and they were able to stave off
00:54:35.260the decline for a moment in time and so ah we have a tradition i see the belief system is that we are
00:54:42.000going downwards that we are heroic warrior types and if we can band together we can destroy the
00:54:47.460decline. However, the heroic superior ideal can only be manifested when we revitalize our authentic
00:54:54.720traditional beliefs that reorient us toward the realm of the gods and toward empire. And thus,
00:55:00.960we have the basis of Western tradition as a thought. And so, to focus on this way of thinking
00:55:09.660is the remedy to decline. It is the heroic fight that we must engender if we are to be something
00:55:17.040akin to anti-leftists or anti-communists. This is the beginning.
00:55:47.040hello hello again hello hello again glorious listeners uh we had technical difficulties and
00:56:00.380are reconvening the recording uh 12 to 16 hours later uh broke welcome back so sorry for that
00:56:11.580It's fine. You know, I'm an anti-technological thinker. And from time to time, when I go on podcasts, the ghost of Ted Kaczynski revives itself and smites me from the grave for being a sacrilegious member of my own philosophy. So these types of things are completely normal when I arrive.
00:56:29.120ah fair enough anyway we were at he said uh the the golden the iron the golden the silver the
00:56:41.220heroic the bronze and the iron age and you're talking about how the hero gauge that he said
00:56:50.920theorizes, largely bucks the trend of Hesiod's pessimism and decline, that great men are able
00:57:02.620to draw order out of the chaos. Absolutely. I mean, what are we really doing as philosophers?
00:57:09.980We're saying that one, Western individuals do have an authentic tradition. And in our literature,
00:57:17.220It is suggested that we go through tremendous periods of decline. Those periods of decline are marked by just total rampant degeneracy at a base supposition, and the individual must then decide to resurrect the most heroic, superior elements of quality from his folk tradition so that he may conquer degeneracy.
00:57:43.280This is what it means to have virtue from, in this case, a pre-Socratic method and the type of thinking that we need to materialize today to reconquer our nations.
00:57:57.480Now, as someone who reads a lot of Evola, decline is best described in Evola's work on the Bowen Club.
00:58:06.940He talks about this concept called negrification, which is when you can think of it today as a word to describe diversity.0.88
00:58:14.680When you combine all of these lesser traditions and cultures together, you sort of become this soup of the lowest form of each of the tradition.
00:58:27.980Or in this case, when you force diversity, you mix into the melting pot of which results in the lowest form in quality of each of its members.
00:58:38.800So we're fighting this general decline, and this is not necessarily only exclusive to Western populations. This is a global issue, and we can very easily begin to unify with separate factions globally if we predicate a philosophical movement on a return to quality and a vanquishing of mere quantity.
00:59:03.260Yes, and this is very apparent if you look at the state of international foods, like even culinary traditions that traditionally are thought of as like quite distinct.
00:59:19.480Not third world slop dishes, but like fine Japanese dining or British beef wellingtons or French cuisine.
00:59:34.780And there's this consistent trend of people actively complaining about foreign versions of their food, food that's been slopified to appeal to a foreign population.
00:59:51.280And then that gets re-imported and starts to displace the actual refinement and quality of the original.
01:00:00.180I mean, this isn't just about replacement.
01:00:03.180Let's think about from a Kaczynskian perspective.
01:00:06.540When we suggest that we're eating food, what is it to be bread, for example, or any of
01:00:13.760the ingredients today that are in bread traditionally associated with bread from, let's say, the
01:01:13.620the decay of of refined methods of doing things the the way that industrial society
01:01:26.560what a machinist was in in the 1920s uh
01:01:31.880uh wait if you tour a steam show in uh in uh canada or america or britain basically anywhere
01:01:42.980in the anglosphere you can find these where uh old timers and like a few young autists
01:01:49.000will come out and uh tour all these uh steam engines that were made often in your area like
01:01:58.560you will go to one of these and if you're in like one of the industrialized areas like anywhere in
01:02:05.900the northwest northeast of the u.s uh anywhere in rust belt uh anywhere in like ontario uh they'll
01:02:14.220come out and they'll tour these machines that were made in like towns of like 500 2 000 and
01:02:22.080and all the these old guys know exactly like every part of these steam engines and this is what all
01:02:30.080these um all these machinists and all these hobbyists and all these farmers knew going back
01:02:38.420to the 1880s this deep understanding of their machinery and how to make it run and how it's
01:02:44.240actually rather finicky like uh they don't have a modern control system so you actually have to
01:02:52.240manipulate the uh physical parts of the engine to make it run just just right uh this often not
01:03:03.140even like by wire like actually pulling a lever that moves a part of the machine and they will
01:03:10.020go and set up like uh entire lumber mills in like uh public grounds for a weekend or uh
01:03:19.860we'll set we'll get old fire trucks and stuff from like the 1880s that run off like uh
01:03:26.500like not coal but wood and they will have all this out to down shred and they're
01:03:33.720they have this mastery of it and everyone there and all those guys can maintain
01:03:38.140these uh very very complex but also very primitive machines and then you go to
01:03:46.100modern factories and often the employees don't know how to maintain the machine they themselves
01:03:55.560work on for for like years on end you know they have to call they call in a a guy who
01:04:07.300calls the manufacturer who then ships ships a replacement i mean this is the real war here
01:04:16.400right it's a war to reclaim skills the canadians and the americans most likely the australians and
01:04:23.720rhodesians as well have superior qualities of organization in which you could see throughout
01:04:30.920our history you have these small bands of men would go off into the frontier they would order
01:04:36.500nature they would create an economy they would build civilization from nothing these are the
01:04:41.620most skilled men within human imagination and the result was creating these vast nations that were
01:04:49.220of such superior excellence that they were the envy of the entire human experience and to be a
01:04:58.020frontiersman is to be one who is either so integrated with nature that he can manifest
01:05:04.320this revitalization of the ancient Aryan spirit, or he's some sort of master of his craft,
01:05:11.200you could suggest. And what we have in America and Canada is these towns of people that maybe
01:05:17.680still exist, or perhaps the Amish would be the best example of this, where you have these highly
01:05:22.620skilled pockets who would, even into today's world, maintain their self-sufficient practices.
01:05:29.660And it is these individuals who not only, as your steam showman suggests, have full command over their destiny, have full command perhaps over their supply chains from an economic level, and have full control over the wielding of the traditions in their civilization, but also, like the Amish, are often blessed simultaneously with high birth rates.
01:05:50.460It is though skill gives birth to life in itself, or skill is the facilitator of tradition, and it is through the revitalization of skills that we can begin to grow in power once again.
01:06:04.320Something that horribly happened to decrease the skills of the American is this idea of conscriptive schooling, which began rollout in the 1864 in Massachusetts.
01:06:16.980And you have these frontiersmen families who essentially overnight were then legally mandated to accept conscriptive schooling. And this measure is the first to begin to take away the transmission of skills from the American. Now he was to become sort of a cog in the machine, if you will, or the state rather was to have complete control and dominion of the human.
01:06:41.940The state was to become the de facto parent, which was the words used in that legislation.
01:06:47.020And we can see that the American frontiersmen at the time had this violent revolt against conscriptive schooling, partially because in this line of argument, they would know that the skills of the student would be stripped from them and they would be essentially sacrificing their children to the state.
01:07:02.120And many were tar and feathering teachers. Many were burning down schoolhouses. Many were killing any teacher that was sent to the village. And of course, the military was then mobilized to kill the families who rebelled. And this, of course, happened all throughout America in the late 1800s into the early 1900s.
01:07:17.600And the American, as a result, he went from 98% literacy down to a horribly low level.
01:07:40.500Do you have any resources on the American experience of conscriptive schooling specifically?
01:07:46.960Absolutely. Like any book you can recommend to our listeners.
01:07:54.260Sure. The thinker I got this information from was called John Taylor Gatto. He was a former, I believe, highest ranked school teacher in the state of New York. And you can go through his entire collection of books to get the exact sources. The underground history of education, I believe, is where I'm pulling this from. I can link a thread in the comments that explains the total history of this idea.
01:08:18.480All right. I will include that in the show notes as well, because the American experience of conscriptive schooling is very unique from almost every other country.
01:08:32.620Because in Germany or Britain or France, schooling was very, very explicitly meant to produce soldiers.
01:08:47.200That everything about schooling is actually aping, in many respects, the structure of a military institution.
01:08:57.220uh if you if you remember back to like grade three uh you're probably taught
01:09:04.320cloud identification you know this is a cumulonimbus cloud this is a cirrus cloud
01:09:11.180no i only recall lessons on the holocaust i'm terribly sorry or um in math class you did
01:09:20.420about trigonometry and uh trigonometry and uh measuring of angles it's like well why is this
01:09:31.220and parabolic arcs you know that's that's an interesting part of math it has a history but
01:09:37.320why those specifically and the answer is that uh knowing you know your geography class your grade
01:09:45.360sixth geography class all that was originally set up to produce soldiers and administrators
01:09:51.140of empires that's why you have to know geography specifically why is music class in there that's
01:09:55.920like a hobby that's not necessarily academic well it's because armies need bands uh why are you
01:10:02.540learning about cumulonimbus clouds well because because that being your own weatherman uh when
01:10:12.100you're a scout or on the frontier or a little junior officer that's very important. Why
01:10:20.420parabolas and trigonometry? Well trigonometry is immediately applicable to land and sea navigation
01:10:27.840and parabolic arcs obviously are the math of firing a cannon and like arcing artillery
01:10:35.900and every every little part of your education when you go back and look and uh look at it with
01:10:44.540this in mind all that was originally set up uh by the germans originally to produce soldiers and
01:10:51.980this is why where all the other countries like slowly start copying the germans because they
01:10:57.000didn't want the germans to have a military advantage and the exception however is largely
01:11:04.100the americans why is this because america doesn't have like uh frontiers with their great power
01:11:09.540you know canada is the british north america is militarized as can be and uh has like probably
01:11:19.920one of probably was the most militarized society in the history of the world by some metrics like
01:11:25.920One in eight men volunteered for World War I in British North America, in Canada.
01:11:34.200And you go through the Canadian air attack artifacts, and it's maybe extraordinarily militarized.
01:11:45.600Every little town is this outpost of empire and very much structure like that.
01:11:50.380And you can go back to the artifacts of Canada and find photos of, like, military parades in towns that would never in a million years have a military parade today.
01:12:00.680Or Empire Day celebrations where kids are creating monuments to the alliance between the British and the Japanese of 1902 to 1922.
01:12:13.880That during that period, they really want to play up, no, these are our allies.
01:12:17.600These are, you need to know who the Japanese are now.1.00
01:12:20.380Now, a little Anne of Green Gables.0.99
01:12:25.040But none of that holds in America because it's like a frontier culture.
01:12:30.920It has no real territorial challenges.
01:12:35.840Canada's militarized as can be because the British are eternally afraid of a war with the Americans.
01:12:41.860The Americans, though, they aren't scared of Canada.
01:12:46.000Like, Canada has to be militarized because the Americans might invade.
01:12:49.240America does not have to be militarized for the Canadians.
01:12:53.420And so the process of schooling this incredibly militarized regimented conscripting of children into the functioning of the state needed another justification.
01:13:09.240You get this like stuff that's for factories or for the production of good citizens.
01:13:13.960and this always jumps out to me about like american schooling like how worse at every stage it is
01:13:23.620than almost every other country in the west western world up until very recently british
01:13:30.140schools might be worse now but uh that the decay all starts in america first because of course
01:13:35.440there's no mission discipline at any point in american schools there's no uh there's no sense
01:13:41.400that oh we're teaching them these skills as opposed to their traditional skills and also
01:13:47.620they actually have to learn these skills instead it's uh instead it's uh incredibly
01:13:54.580shockingly disjointed and at the same time america is having like the first really0.99
01:14:01.360urbanized immigrant population uh like before that cities had the poor but they were like the0.97
01:14:09.560poor of your own people america is the first like multicultural society with the arrival of like0.96
01:14:17.800italians and irish and and jews and new york who don't speak the language or are illiterate0.97
01:14:25.640and whatnot and are forming these ethnic ghettos that uh that a lot of the the seeds of0.83
01:14:33.360the modern decay is like american progressive aping things that exist in europe because europe
01:14:41.020is militarized and but uh wanting to replicate them in america because of course that creates
01:14:47.300a hierarchy in which the progressive intellectual gets a government job in which in which they will
01:14:53.240have prestige and power but without any real reason for that exist or any real metric of their
01:15:02.340own success. Well, this is where our problems begin, right? Because we have this rugged frontier
01:15:09.000culture who relatively everyone is entirely self-sufficient in one capacity or another with
01:15:16.440their frontier community. And then the 1800s, late 1800s, the frontier begins to be fully expanded
01:15:22.880and we begin to branch off into creating these, you know, separate permanent structures more so
01:15:29.460than usual. Or you could say that the permanent structures are finally multiplying because
01:15:33.620the end of the frontier is here. You can't just manifest destiny anymore. That period is just
01:15:37.740concluded. And naturally then the state would come to then conscript the children, consolidate power
01:15:42.720and to quell the population or cow them rather through manufactured consent into becoming this
01:15:49.160sedentary unit of people for the first time. And you naturally to extend that you would mix in
01:15:55.640Europeans who certainly look and act and appear physically as the American, as we are the Aryans,
01:16:03.000they are the Aryans, naturally we can coexist together. But then the emphasis of the American
01:16:06.880becomes less and less about frontier independence, more about subservience to the state and
01:16:11.240specifically more about subservience to the city. And all of these Europeans then come over and they1.00
01:16:17.640take our women and they merge with us. And they did not go through those frontier ritual rites.
01:16:22.500They did not continue this conquesting of America on to foreign lands, even, which was an option at one point. And we stopped this manifest destiny and we resulted with this sort of castrated, useless, skillless European population that became the the de facto culture of the American.0.90
01:16:44.120And we could see that the greatest of us in terms of ability were then killed off in World War I and World War II. This culminated finally with this suburban culture where we live as mere factory drones and we are entirely cut off from any self-sufficient practices.0.96
01:17:00.920We've now sold the family farm. We've made it a virtue to be a consumer. And now we basically live in these anthill civilizations where we have absolutely no attachment to any sort of ethnic identity and certainly are completely removed from any semblance of frontier skill set, which is how you would tap in to that tradition. And now we are a confused people with no true identity whatsoever.
01:17:23.320yeah and i want to emphasize this was a choice like it's not like uh
01:17:30.300it's not like suddenly the wild west stopped being wild uh if you've ever taken like a road
01:17:38.600trip across america or certainly across canada like you know very well that there's a lot of
01:17:46.060wide open, empty space out there. There's a whole lot of this continent where you could basically
01:17:54.080homestead. You know, you might have to purchase a property or you might have to jump through X or Y
01:18:00.580hoop, but getting to a homesteading frontier lifestyle is not an extraordinary barrier on
01:18:11.520the north american continent if you're willing to go into the extreme wilds sure just like i was
01:18:18.540telling you before you know my my big goal when i was a young child was of course to be steve
01:18:24.080and secondly to retire in yellow knife canada the heart of the true last canadian frontier in my
01:18:30.820young mind you know this sort of uh blood memory stays with the american it's a stamp on him this
01:18:36.620is how you can differentiate between the american founding stock and our european immigrants
01:18:41.420We have this constant calling in these very distinct pathways to reconnect with frontier ancestry above all.
01:18:50.260And I believe very deeply that this idea that we have primarily on Twitter of retaking the institution of powers is a very modern European 1900s immigrant standpoint.
01:19:00.020Because the American himself would be a religious extremist of some kind who would be gathering allies to make his own self-sufficient clan in the middle of a frontier condition.
01:19:12.120And there's many regions, most likely out in Wyoming, for example, that would still be perfectly suitable to create this type of movement.
01:19:19.580And I would like to see the Americans return to their genuine, authentic tradition of the recreation of these self-sufficient groups.
01:19:25.080Now, you don't have to be as radical as I am and go off to Eurasia where everybody has their own tribe and you have to make your own clan from scratch that can either unify the rest of the tribes or make your own that you can command with the full force of American tradition or whatever it is that I do.
01:19:39.860But I believe the remedy to most of our condition is the reformation of folk tribes and the revitalization of folk power across generations in which we are regaining skills so that we can detach entirely from the technological system as a new type of choice and sort of engage a new ethnogenesis where we have abandoned the modern system.
01:20:01.360you can call it communism, capitalism, globalism, internationalism, whatever word, and make an
01:20:05.780entirely new heroic orientation, a new heroic age of man. Thus, I come to my political distinction
01:20:13.040of which I identify as the hyperborean right. The libertarians did this. I want you people
01:20:20.860to appreciate this. If you look up the Free State Project, the libertarians managed to move
01:20:27.560something like 20 to might be up to 40,000 now people to the state of new hampshire where they
01:20:35.580now have like actually a kind of voting block but all these people moved to one of the most0.60
01:20:40.940the most autistic white individualistic white people in america organized to move to the most0.73
01:20:49.680rural individualistic white states and now they have like a coherent voting block and they have0.96
01:20:58.960their little festivals up up there and uh they're they're weird autistic hyper capitalist children0.78
01:21:06.180who try to shake shake you down or run uh or uh run all these like stands and stuff you know0.77
01:21:15.560all trying to be lemonade stand tycoons i i'm not joking i've seen this this is a real0.99
01:21:21.340real thing they'd they do and i want you to appreciate that the fucking libertarians0.99
01:21:28.960managed to do this the the the spurgiest splitteriest0.99
01:21:36.640most divisive people on on earth who can't play well with themselves let alone with others
01:21:45.060They managed to organize this. So what are you doing, you community-focused traditionalists out there? What are you doing that the Lulberts are able to organize this but not you?
01:22:00.840I think we should be even more extreme than libertarians. I think we should be conquering
01:22:06.100other countries like the Mennonites are doing. Particularly the group that I'm most fond of1.00
01:22:12.600are of course the Amish, the Mennonites more broadly. And they had this really interesting
01:22:16.560migrational pattern where a large group got together in the 1980s and they said, hey,
01:22:23.580we're in Pennsylvania. There's a lot of modern folk here. They're bringing credit card processors.
01:22:27.520we got to get out of here. These are heathens. We can't be around these people. We're getting
01:22:30.720soiled by low quality, inefficient, internationalized, cultureless swine.1.00
01:22:36.240So they gathered up, they moved down to Belize, who was offering citizenship to people who could0.94
01:22:41.240come in and clear some of their land and order it into a more civilized fashion. And the Belize
01:22:45.180government very happily gave them their land and said, hey, make beauty and order here on our
01:22:50.200frontier. And they did. And they had some very successful communities in Belize. But then fast
01:22:55.660forward 2017 oh my god we're having the same problem as the ancestors had these goddamn people0.95
01:23:01.620are too modern that we live around we have to abandon this project too and so what do they do0.89
01:23:07.140they move down to peru the peruvian amazon and the mennonite group there since 2017 has been very
01:23:13.980successfully colonizing and forming their own settlements still continuing to speak german
01:23:19.420majoritively still only learning exclusively from the bible zero government intervention down there
01:23:24.640And they live, again, entirely self-sufficient. Now, that is a population I would like to go visit in late 2026 on an expedition. That's the first thing I do once I quit my academic career. I'm going to be trying to meet this group of Amish and form some videos on them to get some ideas on how we as individuals in the modern world can organize in this fashion.
01:23:44.660but what is the benefit of organizing in this fashion anyway? The answer comes in the form of1.00
01:23:49.580Bolivia. Bolivia has such a large Amish population that they have now replaced the birth rates of the1.00
01:23:55.540quote-unquote native population of Bolivia, and they produce at a higher level, which means if0.99
01:24:00.160the trend continues, the Amish will be the vast majority in Bolivia moving forward, and they will
01:24:05.320have essentially captured their entirely owned country to later be named as Amistan. So what we0.99
01:24:11.480can do as frontiersmen today is think of this as a generational revolution where, again, we're
01:24:17.660banding together, us frontier people, to create a sort of new race, I suppose. You take the frontier
01:24:24.400Americans, Canadians, Australians, the remnants of Rhodesians, South Africans, the French. I really0.89
01:24:29.920enjoy spending time with them. I see them very often on my travels from the former French empire.
01:24:34.580They've got a great frontier spirit as well. The Russians, Soviet Russians are a type of
01:24:38.540frontierism as well, even though that claim is a little controversial. And what we could do is go
01:24:42.240somewhere like Argentina, for example, get birth tourism there from having children. And I believe
01:24:49.140that's given in about a two-year period, living full-time in Argentina after the birth of a child.
01:24:53.760And then we can go and legally purchase land in their frontier and make a sort of new type of
01:24:58.180civilization. That's the first group of revolutionaries. The second would be to order
01:25:02.940and develop an economy there and a supply chain. And the third, of course, would be focused on maybe
01:25:08.180re-entering civilization now that they have the choice whether to remain, whether to return to
01:25:13.240a kind of submission to the technological system or to continue to operate on their own self-sufficient
01:25:18.260power. That's the kind of big project that I'd have in mind. Whether or not I would be leading
01:25:23.060that or able to even do that myself here as an example, I'm not sure. But I think that type of
01:25:27.520challenge, which is very feasible and it's already being done by the Mennonites, could very easily be
01:25:31.460done by we dissident folk who are more grounded in authentic expression of frontier tradition as
01:26:07.380Because, of course, the thing that unites the Amish and the Mennonites
01:26:11.000is that they are religious communities.1.00
01:26:14.760And, of course, a lot of people, I've commented very belligerently about this.
01:26:22.460I've gotten some haters commenting on this.
01:26:25.780But there is this profound spiritual loss in the West today,
01:26:32.580This profound loss of moral order in the modern West and connection to our ancestors and any conception of the Hira at all.
01:26:46.800Oh, and of course, I'm quite famous for being the neo-pagan person, the one pushing everyone towards Freya in Odin.0.94
01:26:57.320And no, you have to reconnect with your ethnic gods.
01:27:00.000But you have have been exploring interesting things related to Carl Jung and his his essay Wotan, but also these these spiritual currents, let us say, permeating the right and the wider culture.
01:27:21.340Could you introduce us to your spiritual work?
01:27:23.960Sure. Well, you know, as an academic, my classes primarily are grounded on literary analysis. And my favorite thinker is Jung and Julius Evola, which is kind of funny because they would probably most likely Jung would be wonderfully interested in Evola and Evola would be spitting at Jung and calling him some sort of lesser cast swine, I imagine, because he directly stated how much he hates the sort of psychoanalysts of the day.
01:27:48.180And what I do with Jung is I introduce his ideas of, you know, the shadow, possession, basic terminology that students can learn about, you know, basically how to embrace the shadow rather than rejecting it, unify with your opposites and become someone who can powerfully reconnect with folk tradition.
01:28:34.300What symbols and effigies and characters are they worshiping?0.81
01:28:39.900And the consistent focus on the population of individuals that uses X, that's the only social media I use, I'm viewing them, they consistently focus on Hitler.
01:28:54.540What is so interesting about that category of people?0.98
01:28:58.400Yes, logically, we have been indoctrinated by gay race communists for so long that you would go to the opposite extreme, which would be fascism.0.97
01:29:07.880But there's something more to that.0.86
01:29:09.900And Jung touches on this idea in his essay of Wotan.
01:29:12.540He suggests that Hitler is the literal reincarnation of the ancient German god Wotan, Wotan, or Odin, as you may better know him as.0.93
01:29:23.420And what I believe that the Zuma generation is literally living out is they are reviving the ancient Wotanic spirit.0.81
01:29:33.340They are focusing on summoning a god through extreme attention to the Hitler figure, not Hitler as a man, but the idea of this sort of great man.0.97
01:29:45.740They're trying to summon a new great man who best mirrors the Wotonic ideal, and it is the second coming of Wotan, not as Hitler.
01:29:55.120I should say perhaps the third coming of Wotan, who very clearly in his next incarnation will be an American.
01:30:02.240And it is the American's duty to best revive his frontier traditions as the mechanism to unify his folk. And that individual can be considered the Wotanic ideal that is the focal point of the Zoomers summoning.0.93
01:30:17.380What do all these words mean? Essentially, Wotan, you could say the human form of Odin, is typically characterized as this wandering frontier huntsman who is just going around with his ravens and he's hanging out with some wolves and he's giving travelers advice.0.78
01:30:35.340So this, perhaps one could say to the German consciousness, is the ideal hunter frontiersman living self-sufficient in the wilds and is communicating with his folk exclusively when they themselves are in the wilds as well.
01:30:50.700So the American best represents the extension of Wotan and these Appalachian mountain men figures, where you have this entirely skilled population who is so superior that they not only overthrew the British with bare bones, rudimentary materials, but these were the most aggressive people in human imagination who actually cleansed all of the, air quote, illegal immigrants of the day in terms of the natives,0.67
01:31:17.960using the natives' own techniques of scalping.
01:31:21.200I mean, these were the most powerful beings within human experience whose ancestors, whose0.87
01:31:25.960current modern-day lineage now lives as castrated men.0.93
01:31:28.920So very clearly, this is the correct political orientation to have as well, this idea of
01:31:36.040an American founding stock led by the frontier ethnic traditions of our folk, and one great
01:31:43.100man would therefore be able to reunite the entire country under that newly recreated,
01:32:37.300Hitler had, like, something approaching the A10 blue eyes.
01:32:42.880It might not have been that exact color, but it was commented on by many different people that his gaze, he had blue eyes, and his gaze was just penetrating in this bizarre manner.
01:32:56.800And Carl Jung recounts, he's in the crowd, and he looks, and Hitler stares, like, looks down and looks at him directly and makes eye contact with him.
01:33:05.000And Carl Jung has this like psychic experience looking on Hitler and like almost like loses his composure from it.
01:33:17.100And the essay recounts this spirit that he sees in the crowd and in the German people and is building tension and how it's as if the wild hunt has been released across Europe, which, of course, there are other premonitions on this.
01:33:35.160uber boyo has done uh some did an excellent video on exactly this this topic but uh but if you have
01:33:45.580not read that essay and uh it's kind of importance to like uh it is maybe the most important essay
01:33:53.880right now in terms of like online spiritual movements and like zoomer uh zoomer like uh
01:34:01.920like a cult cultism uh like the like not just uh like zoomer uh uh footsie like uh esoteric
01:34:15.860hitlerism stuff but like this is a foundational text and like a lot of different spiritual
01:34:21.900movements that's that's like not just oh hitler it's like no this is how we are going to conceive
01:34:27.460of the gods and spiritual forces in the world going forward we're going to conceive of them
01:34:32.480as like the social and psychic psychic movements through the people and and that all these forces
01:34:40.460are going to be real we're going to attach these mysterious forces to the names of previous gods
01:34:45.900and it's actually going to be those gods but it's going to be this new conception of them and that
01:34:52.340That format exists there perfectly in Young's Wotan.
01:34:57.560If you want to create a new meme set or a new idea set or a new conception of the world, read Young's Wotan and you will understand exactly what the power you need to integrate into that is.
01:35:17.800um also so let me be let me you know really break this down for the listeners here of what that
01:35:25.000actually looks like by introducing a central asian mythology and in my opinion which i am very biased
01:35:32.960to and therefore i'm incorrect in the kargus ethnogenesis myth is very important to note here
01:35:40.440it's actually a blueprint of something that the americans can use to revitalize their own folk
01:35:46.820identity under a heroic figure. Please allow me a couple of minutes to introduce this. So
01:35:51.600in Kyrgyzstan, where I live, you have the word Kyrgyz, which is Kyrgyz. 40 is the number.
01:35:57.840Stan is, of course, land. Land of 40. 40 what? 40 different tribes. These tribes were in the0.88
01:36:04.660all-time mountain range, which is in the south of Russia, and the origin of them was on the
01:36:10.820Yenisai River region. And this group of 40 individual tribes was unified under one singular
01:36:17.780great man called Manas. And Manas then brought his 40 tribes together due to, you know, the Chinese,
01:36:27.680and he was using them to vanquish the Chinese to protect his new ethnic group of people,0.97
01:36:32.840and then used that vitalized force to walk down to the Tian Shenhan mountain range where modern
01:36:40.560Kyrgyzstan is now located, and in the 900s built the Kyrgyz Kaganat, which lasted until
01:36:45.920the Mongol arrival in the 1200s. So what exactly does a Wotanic figure do in the Western context?
01:36:53.540It would be something like your greatness. You are the perfect embodiment of your traditional
01:37:01.080ideals in the sense that you can literally reorder reality to suit you, to observe you.
01:37:09.560You are the sun that all submit themselves towards, you are wielding tradition as if it were lightning, and you're organizing people. This, and why I call my movement the hyperborean right, you are the eternal north, indeed, not idea set. You are the idea, you are superiority, you are the focal point of quality.
01:37:34.760and it is irrelevant whether someone is a leftist or on the right or a libertarian or this position
01:37:41.580or that it is only your excellence that guides them away from the maya from the illusion of
01:37:47.840their attachments and they begin to serve you because you are the embodiment of the tradition
01:37:52.520in itself and using that structure we're beginning not to focus on being anti something but we are
01:38:00.040living for only to hone ourselves into that ideal American frontiersman again. And this chosen
01:38:07.420individual is the only one capable of any genuine movement for the Americans. And that movement will
01:38:17.360of course come from our ethnic folk community, one of the American founding stock. Any other
01:38:22.520individual who has claim to America is a fraud. He is a liar. He is a foreigner. He is to be1.00
01:38:28.840rejected. Zero blood who has come to our country post-frontier has claim here. Zero. It is not a0.56
01:38:36.300matter of debate. All of them are foreigners, European or otherwise. Our people are to be
01:38:43.100commanded by our original frontier people, bar none, without exception. And until we become
01:38:50.440comfortable with that singular mentality and someone demonstrates what that would look like,
01:38:57.300all political discourse is absolutely meaningless yes and i want to emphasize that
01:39:05.780that the that figure is probably to come from a weird place but still embody all of that so if
01:39:16.460you think of um out uh king arthur in the british mythos is coming from like a weird corner and now
01:39:25.860he's the the king and but he exactly embodies the like uh celtic british ideal uh alexander
01:39:33.880the great of course was a macedonian he's just on the edge of of of hellenic civilization and yet0.81
01:39:42.020he's the one who spreads it to the the world and creates the hellenic golden age uh the hitler0.88
01:39:50.020himself was an Austrian, not German.0.65
01:43:36.660you should be sitting in a cubicle under led lights and moving files between excel sheets
01:43:43.140you understand that that is slavery correct you understand that everything wrong with the world
01:43:49.080has been sort of manifested and lived by you you're not authentically consenting genuinely
01:43:57.580to living this modern lifestyle this is something that has been manufactured within us it is a
01:44:04.640preference that is not the origin of the American identity. It's something that has come as a result
01:44:10.620of our fixation on sedentary life, as my critique stands. You don't have to do that. You can
01:44:17.560authentically create some new movement that finds some vast frontier and conquers it or
01:44:26.480experience those traditions of the ancestors. Now, again, we have to think about the actionable
01:44:32.460steps because when you're moving and mobilizing in real life, it is the same as the online world
01:44:38.560where you might get too lofty into ideals. Like for example, when I take this tall ship,
01:44:44.760this vintage sailing vessel down to explore Antarctica, that's a very challenging journey.
01:44:50.560I would love to say that I commit to that and I would love to build promotions around that concept,
01:44:56.180but because that's so perilous and my connections are so new, I will be using a ship captain from
01:45:02.140Nova Scotia, Canada, by the way, in this example, because Canadians are clearly still the best
01:45:07.160seafarers for some odd reason, but that's beside the point. I'd love to say, I'm just going to go
01:45:12.220down to Antarctica and it'll be some simple thing. That's not necessarily the case. Instead,
01:45:17.320what we're suggesting is that the frontier is this portal that is always open to you.
01:45:23.100And as an American, you have to think of it, regardless of whether you're pagan or Christian,
01:45:27.440that your ancestral lineage is about accepting the call to adventure to find wherever the next
01:45:34.220frontier is and conquest it. As one frontier presents itself to you and you conquest it and
01:45:41.220you bring civilization there, another civilization will fall and you can move into that arena and so
01:45:46.600on and so forth throughout the earth. That's the ancient Aryan step nomad ideal, always moving to0.99
01:45:52.220create civilization. Now, what would that look like in reality? For me, I've been living this0.85
01:45:58.100way for, you know, my entire life as I introduced in the beginning of the video. It wasn't until
01:46:04.440this summer when I had to go back to America for the first time in five years. I was visiting my
01:46:09.380grandfather and I went through the family archives. We have these thousand pages of thousands of pages
01:46:15.700about our ancestors and my ancestral line one of them came over on mayflower that was the first
01:46:22.360arrival to america but the second individual to come over was far more interesting than the first
01:46:28.560his name was peter winnie and he was um in the employment of the dutch empire and he was coming
01:46:36.880in from curaco i believe that's how it's pronounced and he went into the mayflower settlement they
01:46:45.600said, you're not allowed to come here. You came a little bit too late. I'm going to give you four
01:46:48.520months, live through the winter, and you're going to have to go elsewhere to conquer some other
01:46:52.060area of land. So he waited through the winter. He took his allies and he went over to Rhode Island
01:46:56.140and he created the first plantation or settlement there on one of the islands.
01:47:02.200And this ancestor then went to establish the first trading routes and the trading company
01:47:07.800between the Europeans and the Mohawk Indians and facilitated, I believe, the purchase of
01:47:13.940Manhattan. And then that line went on to found everywhere from Manhattan to Schenectady to
01:47:21.060Albany, and eventually all the way up on the Canadian border in Buffalo. And I found that
01:47:26.540to be incredible because I spend my entire life investing tens of thousands of dollars into0.71
01:47:31.420tribal people all throughout the world, only to be living nearly the same exact way that my
01:47:38.080founding stock ancestor had lived to the best of my ability, which is to say that the frontier
01:47:44.300identity is something that lives through you. It's almost a mandate of heaven. You could treat
01:47:49.200it like that. It's this kind of destiny that's encoded into your blood that at any time you'll
01:47:54.500find either that you're living or have the capacity to live at the fullest extent. The frontier is
01:47:59.660something that cannot be bred out of you, but it has to be wielded again in a newer modern context
01:48:05.240text and lived by you. That's what the heroic means for the American to continue
01:48:09.740that tradition exactly. And it's within the heart of each and every one of us.
01:48:17.520Ah, so much so. I want to emphasize this to you listeners out there. The youngest person to ever
01:48:27.280surf circumnavigate the globe solo was a 14 year old dutch girl you you don't have excuses for not
01:48:35.820living out your dreams or not living out your your ambitions uh this is all profoundly achievable
01:48:43.540and and especially like you could do it in the next six months
01:48:50.460and if you don't know how you can sign up on one of our expeditions we've got a wonderful
01:48:56.580roster for you to relive those ancestral blood memories as soon as today. Going off to Vietnam
01:49:03.400in January, being the first Americans to ride through the deserts of Turkmenistan in March,
01:49:09.340going to Armenia and visiting off-grid Christian monasteries and self-sufficient groups. We've
01:49:14.680got going to Kyrgyzstan for the World Nomad Games, and we're going to circumnavigate the world in
01:49:19.540tall ships. We're going on a motorcycle tour in Nepal. If you're interested in these type of
01:49:24.640things let me know we can arrange an expedition together oh that's my fault i set you up for that
01:49:30.080plug too well please subscribe to the narconomicon podcast please i i'm poor but uh but yes were
01:49:39.460were there any other points you want to get to you obviously we're re-recording so it feels like we
01:49:44.780just just uh started but actually we have a an hour plus of content in the bank already uh
01:49:54.840listen i think it's best i think it's absolutely the best use for the entire world if we could
01:50:01.080really sit down and tackle this problem of what the local people colloquially call illegal migration
01:50:09.180this is something that you and i seemingly are the only individuals to talk about i have no idea
01:50:14.660why i'm perplexed actually that we are the only people to suggest that the americans and likely
01:50:20.200the canadians have the same legal system of dealing with illegal invaders which is what they
01:50:26.060are they're not migrants they're not immigrants they're you're paying people to invade you with
01:50:32.000your tax dollars and the taxes are increasing the invaders are increasing and your personal0.50
01:50:37.820power is decreasing. What the original Americans did up until 1922 was individual states set
01:50:45.120bounties and allowed scalping, where if you brought in an Indian who was warring against
01:50:51.760your people, you were allowed to behead them and take the head of the scalp specifically
01:50:57.440to your government and say, hey, I've taken care of threats on the frontier who were invading us
01:51:04.280and pillaging our people and the government would say thank you so much for doing all this hard work
01:51:08.600here in the case of pennsylvania would be the equivalent of 19 000 to 20 000 american dollars
01:51:15.960per scalp every state have this type of laws the best being in ohio and pennsylvania and this was
01:51:24.220our solution until i believe 1922 when we finally finished conquering the dissident tribes in
01:51:30.440California, and in Texas with the Lone Rangers, I believe they're called the Texas Rangers. And
01:51:37.720I believe that this is very clearly something that needs to be said, because we have this group
01:51:42.900online who proclaims to be of the right, despite having no connection with the frontier ancestry.
01:51:49.180And we have this ridiculous notion that we're going to revive the back to Africa movement and0.62
01:51:55.600ready up the ships to take away these immigrant populations, as though paying for a first-class0.95
01:52:01.580ticket to remove an invading population is in any way coherent with an American or a Canadian0.86
01:52:10.700tradition. I find all of these things ridiculous, and I'd love to delve into the topic with you.
01:52:16.020Yeah, so the Canadian tradition is somewhat different. We use concentration camps.
01:52:21.320This is how Canada has always dealt with foreign hostile populations, is concentration camps.0.93
01:52:36.380The British invented the concentration camp during the Boer War, and Canada used them right up until 1945.
01:52:43.740I think even 1947, Canada had concentration camps.
01:52:48.280So the Canadian imperial experience is significantly different, although there is a history somewhat of Indian fighting. Sadly, it isn't quite there. The British were more likely to ally with the Indians against the Americans. This is actually one of the great complaints of the American colonists at the British Empire.
01:53:09.480That's why we branded the Indians terrorists. That's where, you know, in one part, the scalping laws remained because the Indian society of the British, we legally designated them as terrorist groups, which began the history of Americans being, let's say, paranoid about terrorism from the Indians or the African pirates who would steal our people from and put them into slavery and the Barbary slave trade.0.68
01:53:32.920And this birthed the idea that Americans.0.63
01:53:35.640The shores of Tripoli, dear listener, the shores of Tripoli.
01:53:39.480Yeah. And that birthed the idea that the Americans were always going to be legally allowed to defend themselves using the most horrific levels of violence that was necessary to protect our communities. We had that idea of folk unity. Now, we had different interpretations of folk at that time, where if you were a Puritan and you were a Quaker, that was going to be a big problem.0.51
01:53:59.320And the Quakers would often be tar and feathered and bullied by the other Christian extremist groups. But we still have this broad sense of camaraderie against these, what we identified at the time, terrorist organizations. And so if we need a cry for unity, I think it's to restore our authentic rights of self-defense to legally expel invaders from our own lands as we have the legal right to do up until about 1922. That solves all of the problem.0.59
01:54:26.240And I want to emphasize this to you. I have a lot of libertarian listeners and a lot of constitutional conservatives who I haven't chased off yet. This is 100% constitutional.
01:54:39.800there you might all the excuses for why the founders did something but we can't do it
01:54:46.820is usually run through uh the 1864 uh 14th amendment uh they they usually try to justify
01:54:56.480anti-discrimination law that way or what what have you that that doesn't does not apply your
01:55:05.040A, because it's non-citizens, but B, because for the first 60 years, 1964 to 1922, the 14th Amendment existed and scalp bounties were still being issued.
01:55:17.840There's been no constitutional amendment in the interim that has changed that.
01:55:25.700The 1964 Civil Rights Act is not a constitutional amendment.
01:55:29.420uh brown versus board of education is not a constitutional amendment the americans with
01:55:36.140disabilities act is not a constitutional amendment all these things are just ordinary
01:55:40.760acts of congress or highly debatable supreme court cases uh that have as much moral weight
01:55:50.200as like roe versus wade or citizens united you know you should you should ascribe as much
01:55:57.980moral significance to the 1964 Civil Rights Act as you do to Obamacare and its ability to shape
01:56:05.800who you are as an individual. If Obamacare didn't change who you are as a citizen, if it doesn't
01:56:11.720have any moral force to change what you should believe, the 1964 Civil Rights Act doesn't
01:56:17.420either. If Roe versus Wade and Citizens United don't have the moral force to change your
01:56:25.120spiritual relation to your fellow man, neither does Brown versus Board of Education. Neither do
01:56:31.780all these due process cases that were dreamt up by progressive judges in the 30s and 60s.
01:56:41.060Even the right to a public defender was dreamt up in the 30s. Before that, you would have
01:56:49.440volunteer lawyers or or um or you'd represent yourself or someone you know would rep represent
01:57:01.720you uh there wasn't this unconditional right to unlimited free public representation
01:57:07.200uh your right to an attorney was the same as your right to bear arms
01:57:12.980then told you to no public funds the same way the government does not have to provide you with a
01:57:18.740handgun uh the government does not have to provide you with attorney according to the first 150 years
01:57:25.960of u.s case law and that was like trimmed away the same thing with uh miranda rights uh the
01:57:31.620miranda case they didn't tell him what his rights rights were actually that's not anywhere in the
01:57:39.820found founding documents that was in the 60s the first 180 years of the american american
01:57:48.540experiment uh if you want to exercise your right to remain silent you had to be intelligent enough
01:57:54.580enough and like a decent enough citizen to know that you had a right to remain silent you had to
01:58:01.100read your founding document once in your life and like take note of it uh well what i'm curious for
01:58:09.760you is what is going on with people where if you reference a standard mode of American or Canadian
01:58:19.480behavior post-1900s, people shut down. They act like we had never done any of those things or
01:58:27.240anything that was before the year 1900. It didn't exist. It's not a part of the American tradition.
01:58:33.040The only American tradition can be what was invented in 1950s suburbia. This was the peak
01:58:38.440of life. This is the peak of the American tradition from 1950 until maybe 1965. It's like that
01:58:45.84015-year stretch is the peak utopian existence. Nothing before had ever existed, and we must
01:58:51.820only live with this singular identity. Any law, any act of self-sufficiency, any metric of a
01:59:01.300sustainable extremist population like the Puritans, the pilgrims, is just simply forgotten. We can0.91
01:59:08.160never reference it as though it must be expelled from the earth and of memory. And we have these
01:59:14.260people who claim to be on the right, but they are entirely removed from any practices and the
01:59:20.800interest to resurrect any of the practices from our past. I'm very curious on your analysis of
01:59:26.980what that phenomenon is. Yeah. So it's a, I would say it's an interesting complex phenomena because
01:59:37.200it like combines it does this thing that all good uh all effective democracy memes do
01:59:44.960where it combines like three narratives uh that like different sets of people will believe
01:59:52.400believe but in different ways depending on like uh their own conception of it so it's like using
02:00:01.480the same words or the same like formatting to achieve wildly different results so a there's0.97
02:00:08.880the people who don't know history you know people who are just stupid who like you know we did this0.75
02:00:14.760in 1776 okay well they broke people on the wheel in 1282 you know they crucified people in 0 ad0.98
02:00:25.840you know people who have no real conception of history they're just like oh that's like
02:00:32.920some medieval punishment that existed in the dark ages of the past two years before i was born
02:00:40.280that just have this conception of there's this darkness that exists before me and like that's
02:00:47.860where all the evil of the world is and then everything's good now because teacher was good
02:00:52.680to me and like uh exactly parallels the like uh kind of psychosexual relation between uh
02:01:01.080children their parents and like their government teachers where it's where it's like oh this order
02:01:09.460has is established and all this wild stuff happens out there but i'm in this like ordered environment
02:01:17.180that has been created for me and i owe my loyalty to that ordered environment environment that
02:01:25.120people intuitively believe believe on some level like you see this is why the you can just do
02:01:32.240things meme is like so powerful is because like uh people have been trained in their entire life
02:01:37.600that you cannot just do things you cannot just get up and go to the washroom you need to ask
02:01:41.280the teacher's permission and get a hall pass uh you cannot you cannot just uh go on an adventure
02:01:47.560you know you need to wait for school for a field trip day uh you can you cannot just sign what
02:01:54.560you're going to do uh homework is going to be assigned to you to you that this is heavily
02:02:00.100trained into people i remember when i was a teenager i wanted to be be a little businessman
02:02:07.300god i was a libertarian uh i wanted to be a little business person uh i wanted to
02:02:13.780to uh start like a business in my teenage years and the these government people came to our class
02:02:22.300or class on business and we're talking about uh and we're talking about oh yeah we can do all this
02:02:29.140stuff for you at a government office to help you start the business and i remember like asking them
02:02:34.540all these questions and trying to nail down what I had to do to start a business it's like that's
02:02:41.940a very incoherent question what do I have to do to start a business business because it's like well
02:02:49.020if you're if you're logging you have to cut down trees if you're if you're sewing you have to buy
02:02:55.920fabric you know every business is unique it has all this stuff but what I was actually asking
02:03:00.800is what form do I need to fill out to get a permission slip from you to start a business?
02:03:07.760Which, of course, is the exact opposite of how you start a business.
02:03:10.120What you do is you exclude the government entirely from everything you're doing
02:03:15.140as long as you possibly can, run everything out the back door
02:03:20.980unless it's a very capital-intensive thing,
02:03:23.280and even then you want to exclude yourself from government scrutiny as long as possible
02:03:29.080and they'll, like, ask forgiveness later, or if you reach a regulatory hurdle, do catch
02:03:39.420it up and, like, on the back end, make it look like you're doing it the right way the
02:03:46.040You do not want to, if you try to ask the government permission to start a business,
02:03:51.160it will take 10 million years, and they will never give you that permission slip that,
02:03:55.800yes now you can start doing things you can actually just do things and also you can only
02:04:02.940actually just do things if you wait for permission you will die of old age okay so there's the
02:04:08.760manufactured it's so one it is the modern manufacturing of consent through this
02:04:17.700whatever broadly speaking the system is so the system forces an individual to submit to it
02:04:24.640beyond all and then the additional statement that you have could be related to the myth of progress
02:04:30.420we believe that we subserve we we serve the system to expand the system and as the result
02:04:37.120we are being progressively thrown in alignment with a utopian future is that the mechanism
02:04:44.060that you would agree that holds people back one of the mechanisms like that's so there's this uh
02:04:50.960There's this ignorance, and then there's, like, this trained helplessness that precludes people from entertaining these thoughts or demanding the power to solve their problems by the traditional means.
02:05:05.080But then there's also, like, the ethnic resentment of it.
02:05:08.840So, like, the majority of white people in America are not a founding stock.
02:05:15.180Like, I slowly realize this as a Canadian.0.53
02:05:19.640And I, one of my ancestors was the first white man to fell a tree in my county.
02:07:11.820extensively what you find is that most a shocking percentage of all people in in america canada any
02:07:22.140like colonial community uh their founding story is not you know pioneers going out and like
02:07:29.520creating stuff in a hardscrabble land and like like looking at the artifacts around like their
02:07:36.060house or like their old photos and thinking wow that was hard these people were tough that was
02:07:40.060like a huge achievement and like you know half remembering like some skill that's that's still
02:07:46.480being passed down through the family and you're going to pass it down to your kids most of them
02:07:51.980if they trace it back identify themselves as some kind of victim of those people and like this is
02:07:59.980true of white people this is true of like all immigrant communities like a few very rare
02:08:05.740exceptions that that they don't think of themselves as like breaking the earth they think of their0.63
02:08:11.200ancestors you know getting a shitty wage at a at picking fruit or getting a or being exploited
02:08:21.320in the mines or the uh the industrial plants in pennsylvania and then having to organize strikes
02:08:30.120as part of the early communism the early labor movements and communism whatnot so a lot for a
02:08:37.480lot of people you appeal to like the founders and whatnot and i see this all the time when
02:08:45.100constitutional conservatives they do not identify with the founders at all they identify with the
02:08:50.380constitution is a bill of promises that was made that no one actually kept at the time but i could
02:08:55.540still demand that bill of things that i am i am owed you know this cornucopia that was never
02:09:03.000really there but but we can progress towards towards you know all these all these goodies
02:09:10.980that i've been promised in the bill of rights that that were denied my ancestors but i'm gonna
02:09:16.580get them damn it and it's like well how were you denied them well well we it was a land of promise0.67
02:09:23.440some plenty and it's like yeah but that's not a right in the constitution then they interpret0.99
02:09:28.800anti-discrimination in there so that all their resentments it's like you see it was a promise
02:09:34.180uh anti-discrimination is a core value of america and we were discriminated against once
02:09:38.960so we need x or y and this is again this is like very obvious when it comes to like uh0.97
02:09:46.180the big minority groups like uh like blacks uh jews hold on to this resentment in at to insane
02:09:57.700levels uh um mexicans and whatnot but this is also true of a wide section of white people that0.89
02:10:06.480their core narrative was uh was oh we were humiliated and persecuted and like uh had x
02:10:14.600y happened to us in 1870 when we landed at ellis island and and that resentment holds on
02:10:22.620holds on in the younger generations because that all suddenly becomes a justification
02:10:28.740of like their own class resentment to their own like frustrated material ambitions so like uh
02:10:37.160this is why the image that like there are wasps out there somewhere there are rich wasps out there
02:10:44.400somewhere somewhere there's a guy in a a blazer or like uh yacht shoes smoking a cigar and speaking
02:10:54.380in like a north atlantic accent and discussing discussing how how we wouldn't like those sort
02:11:04.420in here and that's the guy actually running america somewhere out there you know there's
02:11:08.440some George H.W. Bush-sounding motherfucker who wasn't a Texas, he was a Connecticut Yankee,0.99
02:11:16.980and somewhere out there, there's a guy exactly like that who's actually running the show and is0.99
02:11:21.280actually behind anything and is actually rich, you know, who's the old money that Great Gatsby
02:11:27.260resents. And of course, this is absurd. Those people lost power in like the 50s and 60s,
02:11:34.620like they're very decayed and like you have it to the extent they still exist it's because they
02:11:39.680like glommed on to uh to the decayed uh managerial class which it's and their kids are like drug
02:11:50.900addicts and stuff it's profoundly sad how they absolutely failed to maintain in their culture
02:11:57.440uh do not i think it's a very important interjection here you've referenced the great
02:12:02.680Gatsby. I'm currently teaching that text just because it works so well with my frontier thesis.
02:12:08.320I'd like to suggest that the Gatsby, it perfectly integrates this conversation because I believe
02:12:14.500the actual message of Gatsby is the idea that the character of Gatsby, he is originally from
02:12:24.440North Dakota and his parents were frontiersmen and they were building a frontier identity for
02:12:30.720their family at that time. And Gatsby only identifies this mythos as poverty, and he sees
02:12:38.400it as something disgusting in the American experience, and he rejects it to try to get
02:12:42.700this type of Federal Reserve inflated fiat currency materialism. And he goes into New York,
02:12:49.120and what does he do when he arrives in New York? Of course, he works with Meyer Wolfsheim,
02:12:53.740who is an ethnic Jew who has recently immigrated from Germany. Now, I have nothing against the0.75
02:12:58.580jews personally but it's the idea that he's he's serving someone who has recently arrived in the
02:13:04.800soil where his family has this transcendent uh destiny they're trying to maintain of manifesting0.60
02:13:10.680destiny and he decries that he finds it to be uh disgusting and beneath him and the only other way0.92
02:13:16.540then that he makes money is by literally being the front man to this foreigner and he does all0.66
02:13:24.820of these deals by selling alcohol illegally, which, okay, that's prohibition. It's probably0.95
02:13:31.380bad to do anyway. So whatever, you're selling alcohol, that's fine. There's some ideas of
02:13:36.460selling drugs illegally, but more importantly, he's putting people in debt and getting them to1.00
02:13:40.740take credit from the foreigners who have newly arrived to our country. So that, I think, is the0.99
02:13:45.960actual critique of Gatsby. It's the American has made a fool of himself, where he's decried his0.89
02:13:51.080frontier ethos, and he's pursued materialism above all. And now we know only how to exist0.95
02:13:57.480as these man-children addicted to material comforts, funded by credit. We've become debt
02:14:04.080slaves. And the worst part of it is we are venerating the debt slave as the highest form
02:14:10.020of reality. We are venerating the newly arrived modern American immigrant as the height of man.0.94
02:14:16.960And we are forfeiting this beautifully heroic revival of the European nomadic ideal.
02:14:27.100And because we have done that in the early 1900s, we are now a people that is entirely castrated, unable to even recognize any aspect of authentic American tradition.
02:14:38.320And I would like to be the personal stop to that.
02:14:41.460I would like to suggest that it is possible to embrace those frontier roots.
02:14:44.920And you might even have such a fun time, you can gallivant all across the world in a way that supports the authentic heritage of your people rather than being a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet mover, so to speak, is the very practical other option.
02:15:02.680Yes, Instagram might have actually saved the human race when all of a sudden it made photos in exotic locations more valuable than houses with the exact same minimalist style that just communicates,
02:15:27.840oh i'm so luxurious i'm so luxurious mate with me uh the the fact that like actually climbing a
02:15:34.920mountain and having a photo on the top is a better dating profile photo is actually
02:15:38.720almost certainly in the long run going to be a very good thing although it's caused a great0.98
02:15:45.060deal of displacement but uh the but no this uh this crippled action there's the the ethnic
02:15:55.480resentment there's the actual ignorance there's a learned learned helplessness uh there as you
02:16:03.680rightly identify this kind of contempt for the frontier the in this is a very recent addition
02:16:12.760to american culture actually if you look at um television there is this huge event in the 70s
02:16:19.820The Rural Purge. Before this event, all the most popular shows on TV, a lot of the most popular
02:16:30.240media were stuff like Little House on the Prairie, The Waltons. The most popular genre of film was
02:16:37.860the western uh and there's this huge impetus in american culture to to lionize the people0.79
02:16:49.080in the sticks like in the most miserable like like far-flung corners of the country uh the
02:16:55.980little house on the prairie about uh how miserable the weather is and i think it's north dakota
02:17:00.620is little house on the prairie or the western these guys uh on dusty trails in the middle of
02:17:07.060no word that this is the real America that everyone loves. And in the 70s, there was a
02:17:15.120very concerted effort. It was largely coordinated. It's pretty documented as coordinated. You can
02:17:20.700look on the Wikipedia page of the rural purge and see just how across the border it was. Suddenly,
02:17:27.880there was no rural media whatsoever in American culture. It was a concerted effort that now we
02:17:33.880are going to push urban culture, contemporary culture, and in cities as the core of the
02:17:45.260American experience. And partly this was an effort to push diversity, but the thing is there was
02:17:51.280actually no government mandate to push diversity. It was Hollywood political types of ethnicities
02:18:01.160that I presume you can guess, who just really despised and resented the rural people who
02:18:09.140are being lionized and heroicized in media throughout the 60s and 70s and, of course,
02:18:17.200the 50s and before that. I imagine someone from the 50s traveling to the president and asking,
02:18:24.960well, who's the real successor to John Wayne? Who's the tough guy in media?
02:18:29.360and it like there's no one uh you know you could argue like mel gibson kind of filled that role at
02:18:37.220one point and he's like still in like minor film roles now kind of fulfilling that but like there's
02:18:43.960no like uh there's no like reserve tough guy guy fair left in public media in in um mainstream
02:18:55.200culture there's no frontiersman in public public media and all that was a choice all that was
02:19:01.300designed uh all that was designed recently uh into the 80s you had figures like uh
02:19:09.940fort reynolds uh was lionized as like this very rural um good old boy character in stuff like
02:19:21.480smoking the bandit or gator or whatnot who was very much a guy on a frontier that would have been
02:19:28.420trucking movies in general is like reconceptualizing the american frontier
02:19:33.380and car movies reconceptualizing the american frontier is like this domain of
02:19:39.140like speed and the rural and the master of space and now you kind of struggle to think of an
02:19:48.100american film film that's come out that is set in rural spaces the only westerns that come out
02:19:55.440are deconstructionist westerns about how it wasn't real and it was all is all violent and awful and
02:20:02.780you shouldn't like it you know uh the assassination of jesse james and and the revenant and well the
02:20:12.880revenant was actually like pretty decent but like the assassination of jesse james and blood
02:20:16.980meridian and unforgiven everything has to be a darker more deconstructionist western there's
02:20:22.580you know the idea that you tell a story about like a decent guy creating order out of chaos
02:20:30.180on the frontier and living happily ever after at the end of it are achieving something meaningful
02:20:54.580And Daniel Day-Lewis, there's a lot of writing
02:20:57.660about Daniel Day-Lewis in the context of John Wayne,
02:21:03.180that Lewis's performance is exactly recreating
02:21:06.700the uh confident man voice of john wayne and early western actors but of course the entire
02:21:13.220point of there will be blood is that he loses everything by being the confident man who can
02:21:18.380create order out of nothing and that it was all meaningless and he squandered everything that
02:21:23.400mattered to him and and shouldn't you feel that about lionizing those earlier frontiers men who
02:21:31.020did exactly that and it's like this guy created daniel day lewis's character in it like
02:21:36.520like there's one industrial accident and he shoots the guy who was trying to defraud him
02:21:42.400and he beats the corrupt priest and is like bad to his kid the light he creates an entire industry
02:21:50.400in the middle of the desert in this small town that employs hundreds of people it creates this
02:21:56.460This vast fortune settles the American West and lays the industrial groundwork for what America will become.0.97
02:22:09.680And it's summed up with him, the entire film is summed up with him barking madly and yelling about how great he is even when he's drunk and pathetic.0.55
02:22:20.680and that is what what hollywood and like uh the urbanized american wants to conceive of the0.70
02:22:29.320frontier american is they they want to believe largely because they know they don't measure up
02:22:35.340to any standard that that a frontiersman would admire they want to imagine that they don't have
02:22:42.620to measure up to those standards because they were they were vicious cruel trunks and monstrous0.77
02:22:47.360people and uh and and uh war criminals criminals and bad fathers and whatnot you know the meme of
02:23:01.300of 1950s superbia where it's the happy photo and the reddit liberal has has included uh the mom's
02:23:09.780addicted to drugs, this. The dad's secretly gay. The daughter's been raped by her boyfriend.0.98
02:23:18.460The son has polio. You know, no one was ever happy. No one was ever, no one ever had a0.99
02:23:26.260successful family. No one ever built something meaningful. That's how they want to view the
02:23:31.5601950s, how they want to view frontier America. Watch There Will Be Blood. That's what they want
02:23:38.680to think of the bounding frontiersman? Well, I think this is really the key here. We have this
02:23:45.400idea of an authentic American tradition. We have the basis of it. It's all very clear.
02:23:50.080Now, this orientation is obviously either mutant in media or it's vanquished or it's seen as an
02:24:00.400evil. But the alternative, as we can very clearly see, is that we get overwhelmed with different
02:24:06.480waves of immigrants so that that reconnection with tradition becomes more and more foreign1.00
02:32:20.160Instead, unifying the family first if you can, friends to be second, and using your resources to purchase land and grow the skills necessary to either live off-grid in the best-case scenario or to live on the grid as a choice rather than as a castrated man-child who knows nothing else but the sustenance provided by the grid.
02:32:41.680and instead going back to the reliance on authentic folk and family power that
02:32:47.280overarching idealistic vision is something that you could utilize to to you know suggest as an
02:32:55.860alternative to degeneracy and decline that we can authentically reject this through vitalizing the
02:33:03.160family unit so to speak vitalizing the friend group so to speak we don't all need to be
02:33:07.700divided individualists throughout our entire lives. We can, in fact, begin to revive these
02:33:14.160Puritan and Pilgrim and Amish ways of living. It's entirely doable. And continuing to attempt0.90
02:33:21.220to align yourself further and further with these authentic expressions of folk identity
02:33:26.000should be the way that we view saving the country rather than just tweeting Pinterest aesthetic
02:33:32.220posts and suggesting that we're going to reclaim institutional power while doing nothing but
02:33:37.120decaying i want to emphasize right now that uh there is a way to do this within an urban
02:33:46.620urban setting like uh that you can probably start doing tomorrow like if i um basically unless you're
02:33:57.220in the worst possible urban area on earth unless you're in houston uh you can like get an e-bike
02:34:05.220or a bicycle and bike to work you can start mastering the space immediately around you
02:34:11.280tomorrow uh i'm going snowshoeing immediately after this podcast finishes recording but uh
02:34:20.380you can like i i'm amazed at the people i i moved from in a rural small town to a city
02:34:29.560uh for university i've moved into toronto for university and i was amazed at the people
02:34:36.940who have lived in the city their entire life who knew nothing about the city like uh
02:34:44.000like every city has its own unique interesting geography i actually quite like looking at maps
02:34:50.800of cities and going over google maps of different cities and uh seeing the shape of them whatnot
02:34:56.860But the geography of cities actually do lend themselves fairly well to mastering the space.
02:35:07.040And, like, you can have, like, really cool and interesting adventures in cities.
02:35:13.900This is partly why role kids kind of fantasize about cities.
02:35:18.300They imagine these adventures that could be head there.
02:35:21.960But you actually have to go out and interact with the physical space out there.
02:35:26.540Not go out and be like, oh, I'm going to meet some friends and we're going to go to a bar and have a meal and get fat doing nothing.
02:35:38.060You know, these Instagram posts where people, oh, I had this amazing adventure this weekend.
02:40:42.160Now is not the time for hiding behind anonymous accounts and engaging in the surrogate activity of posting online.
02:40:48.760We need in-person organization, and we need to think about this from a tribalistic perspective of you're building a clan, you're building a legacy, you're forging a new destiny for your people.
02:41:03.820And it is the time that we move in and begin to gain dominance of our environment.
02:41:10.120And that begins with having you, listener, as the individual, the conduit that calls forth his tradition and lives it through his excellence and begins to reorganize the world around his superior quality of embodiment, the tradition, allowing it to flow through you once more.
02:41:40.120I'm not going to be able to top that Nick collusion.
02:41:44.140You listeners out there, stay glorious.