Anarchonomicon - Ep 3： Audio-Essay ＂The Depth of Religious and Value Difference＂

00:00:00.000 All forms of violence are a quest for identity.

00:00:05.000 When you live out on the frontier, you have no identity.

00:00:09.000 You're a nobody. Therefore, you get very tough.

00:00:12.000 You have to prove that you are somebody.

00:00:15.000 And so you become very violent. 1.00

00:00:18.000 I'm coming to kill you! 1.00

00:00:20.000 For greater safety, please avoid the English language. 0.98

00:00:25.000 please do not translate this message and so identity is always accompanied by violence

00:00:33.680 this seems paradoxical to you it works violence works therefore television is reality and reality

00:00:44.840 is less than television were you listening to me neo or were you looking at the woman in the red

00:00:50.440 drifts. It's just a grotesque post-modern psyop, and anyone who's fallen for this is brain damaged. 0.98

00:00:57.160 The depth of religious and value difference. No, a pagan Europe would not have been liberal. 0.72

00:01:04.320 By Catgirl Kulak, originally published December 23rd, 2024, at Anarchonomicon.com.

00:01:11.040 one of the strange things about arguing paganism versus christianity is that a lot of christians

00:01:22.820 don't believe in their religion not that they don't believe their religion some do some don't

00:01:29.800 but whether or not they intuitively believe it's true metaphysically whether they see creation

00:01:35.940 the flood, the miracles of Christ as historical fact or metaphor.

00:01:40.740 Whether they are true believers or closet agnostics,

00:01:44.140 Christians of all stripes seemingly don't believe or understand that their religion

00:01:47.820 and the culture of their religion itself exists. 1.00

00:01:51.820 Like the fish when asked, how's the water, replies, what is water?

00:01:57.520 One of the main arguments I get again and again in these debates

00:02:00.660 is that I and other vaguely defined Nietzscheans are confusing Christianity

00:02:05.640 which my interlocutors allow has some, or many depending on the church, institutional corruptions 0.95

00:02:13.240 with the wider corrupt liberal culture and now the gay race communist culture 0.94

00:02:18.380 that has descended on the West and taken over their churches like it has seemingly every other institution, 1.00

00:02:24.120 poisoning communities and marriages against each other 1.00

00:02:26.640 and compelling the importation of millions of foreigners. 0.99

00:02:29.280 They find it either confused or almost bizarre that I blame these recent corrupt and occasionally explicitly anti-Christian ideas on a 200, 500, 2,000, or 3,500-year-old religion, depending on which figure or thinker they want to date the final form of their faith to. 0.71

00:02:53.200 Surely if Christianity had never existed

00:02:55.660 and Jupiter, Odin, and the mysterious Slavic and Celtic gods had remained, 0.95

00:03:01.180 they'd be going through the sicknesses of liberalism and progressivism, too,

00:03:05.920 in the modern day, just like Christianity is. 0.99

00:03:09.280 Instead of charity, liberal corrupted pagan churches would say 0.98

00:03:12.580 that ancient hospitality norms compel us to accept infinite migrants. 0.88

00:03:17.840 They'd drop obscure parables from mythology or the sagas 0.78

00:03:21.140 to justify the exact same family courts

00:03:23.600 taking the exact same 50% of everything from men 0.84

00:03:27.160 to enable their cheating wives.

00:03:32.720 And the liberal decay would look largely the same. 0.95

00:03:38.120 It is not anything about Christian culture and values 0.57

00:03:41.600 according to this theory that creates modernity. 0.74

00:03:44.860 Christianity is seemingly one of the smallest cultural factors

00:03:48.000 in the world today.

00:03:48.840 compared to things like liberalism, Hollywood, or even obscure Marxists like the Frankfurt School.

00:03:55.920 There's one problem, though. This isn't true.

00:04:00.260 This is like the fish who, having water explained to him by reference to currents and tides,

00:04:06.820 replies, how would I know how the water is today? The nearest current is miles away.

00:04:14.200 The response betrays the fact that they simply don't understand the scale of how big a question

00:04:20.560 culture and religion is, how little what they think of as normal or human nature is actually universal.

00:04:31.180 It is actually a struggle to explain just how vast the factor of religion and religious values are,

00:04:38.560 how completely various faiths change everything about people and culture.

00:04:43.340 To narrow it down to just sex and marriage practices in the near-Western world, 0.88

00:04:48.900 a topic which itself would consume a career,

00:04:52.140 all of these societies were in close contact with each other.

00:04:56.200 You had Roman, Germanic, Christian, and Muslim sexual norms and ideals

00:05:01.280 within just over a thousand miles and a few hundred years of each other. 0.99

00:05:05.940 And they could not be more different. 0.93

00:05:08.060 In a Roman marriage, it would be perfectly normal for a husband to not only sleep with his slave, 0.93

00:05:13.340 But to do it in front of his wife, who was expected to treat her husband's slaves basically 0.93

00:05:19.360 like household appliances.

00:05:22.180 And while in the early Rowan period the husband had the power of paterfamilies, that of life

00:05:27.840 and death over his wife, even by Julius Caesar's day it was common for wives to cheat on their

00:05:33.280 husbands and for this to merely end in divorce.

00:05:36.900 Caesar himself divorced his wife for a rumor of infidelity, claiming to not believe it,

00:05:42.680 but also claiming that he required his wife to be even above suspicion.

00:05:47.140 In an oft-interpreted and reinterpreted episode,

00:05:50.460 no one quite knows what the implications were or why Caesar did this.

00:05:56.480 For the late Romans, marriages were convenient or inconvenient political arrangements,

00:06:02.500 with men who had slaves for sex and ample and poor prostitutes throughout the city,

00:06:08.280 often treating marriage as one of the great chores and torments of life. 0.53

00:06:13.460 Ironically, despite the vast harems of slaves a wealthed Roman man might have,

00:06:18.360 Rome was legally monogamous.

00:06:20.920 You could only have one wife, who was ideally of a comparable social class.

00:06:26.260 Roman men often despised their wives of marriages, 0.73

00:06:30.460 of burdens, expenses, and vectors of political attack.

00:06:34.420 Marriage was seen as an awkward legal contract or corporate merger, 1.00

00:06:38.400 and a truly scandalous wife who slept with every man except for her husband

00:06:43.480 might be treated by the husband as an embarrassing distant relation

00:06:47.880 that he no longer sees at holidays,

00:06:50.740 saving his time and affection for his loyal Iberian slaves. 0.52

00:06:56.900 This got so bad that under the Emperor Augustus and countless subsequent emperors, 0.80

00:07:02.020 they had to implement policies to try and get Roman husbands and wives 0.76

00:07:07.440 to sleep with each other and produce children. 1.00

00:07:09.920 That in spite of the insane amounts of sex

00:07:12.640 and incredibly high birth rates of ancient Rome,

00:07:15.740 with a total fertility rate averaging something near five or six per woman,

00:07:21.060 actually getting true-born Romans to breed with each other 0.66

00:07:24.920 and produce more true-born Romans

00:07:27.140 was an ongoing intractable political struggle.

00:07:32.100 Whereas at the other extreme, Islam, at least early Islam, 0.98

00:07:37.440 Considered even premarital fornication, a Roman commonality, to be punishable by a hundred lashes. 0.97

00:07:45.360 And adultery, even hypothetically in men, but more commonly punished in women, to be punishable by stoning to death. 0.52

00:07:53.520 With a cuckold man being almost required to seek his wife's death and that of her lover, so as to restore his honor.

00:08:01.960 The thought that a great general would simply divorce a wife publicly accused of adultery and remarry would be unthinkable.

00:08:10.780 Marriage was the highest reflection of honor and demanded blood if it was violated. 0.96

00:08:15.680 In spite of comparable sexual slavery, a sultan or Islamic noble could have dozens of sex slaves. 0.54

00:08:24.320 Islam was quite different from Rome in that polygamy, as opposed to serial monogamy, was also allowed.

00:08:32.260 Thus, wives never became so political or scarce as to stop being centers of property and reproduction. 0.68

00:08:39.900 Or at least in a political marriage, neither wife nor husband could stand

00:08:49.380 to not preclude the husband also having other wives

00:08:52.520 who would generate trueborn sons.

00:08:56.440 Christianity, by contrast, is almost entirely different. 0.61

00:08:59.880 It comes out of ancient Judaism, 0.79

00:09:01.820 which had comparable adultery punishments to Islam,

00:09:05.540 stoning to death.

00:09:07.120 However, early Christianity was considerably different.

00:09:10.560 The perfect marriage ideal in Christianity is Mary and Joseph,

00:09:14.760 a mother whose first child was not her husband's

00:09:17.460 and which did not compromise Joseph's love for her.

00:09:21.000 Likewise, Jesus famously rescued the adulterer, Mary Magdalene.

00:09:25.840 One can speculate as the significance of the name repeat.

00:09:29.840 And Jesus preached a gospel of forgiveness, survival,

00:09:33.260 and turning the other cheek and resisting not evil.

00:09:38.280 This is very significant for early Christians

00:09:41.380 who were Greeks and Jews

00:09:43.580 and were disproportionately the slaves of the Romans,

00:09:48.060 who exercised their Roman totaled power over their slaves' bodies wantonly,

00:09:54.120 irrespective of whatever marriages the slaves practiced amongst themselves. 0.96

00:09:58.760 Nobly, the Jews, having gone in and out of bondage a dozen plus times, 1.00

00:10:02.880 recognized dissent only via the mother, 0.93

00:10:05.920 with patrilineal norms of dissent not working under the repeated sexual humiliation,

00:10:12.740 rape and slavery the significance of joseph joseph standing by mary and jesus rescuing

00:10:20.780 nightling created a tradition and expresses a wire value set they see to this day where christian

00:10:27.060 reverends encourage wives and husbands to work together to forgive and repair infidelities as

00:10:33.380 tragedies and to rescue the marriage above all else as a matter of duty and the benefit of

00:10:38.800 Children. Church ladies, Christian priests, and their feminist descendants are scandalized in 0.99

00:10:45.520 attempt to shame or even shun men who, upon finding out about their wives' infidelity and 0.84

00:10:51.380 even the fact that their children are not their children, resolved to divorce or abandon their

00:10:56.260 wife. In other traditions, such a husband might be expected to kill such a wife and children

00:11:01.700 and be forbidden to pray until he had killed them. But in Christianity, the marriage is conceived as 0.64

00:11:07.440 trial that can only be endured and survived by working together and working

00:11:11.940 to love each other maybe even in spite of each other and all possible reason

00:11:18.060 that one might love someone and then there is the northern Germanic tradition

00:11:24.360 and the Celtic Arthurian tradition that it influenced which is the most

00:11:30.360 dramatically romantic of the four where love at first sight being willing to lay

00:11:35.720 Lay down one's life for love, fight to the death over the slightest matter of a beautiful

00:11:40.280 lady's honor, or even commit suicide of a romantic tragedy predominates during the pagan

00:11:46.100 era and the romantic Christian medieval period that immediately followed.

00:11:51.200 The dramatic ideal of pure passion and true love and faithfulness to that passion is the

00:11:56.880 highest ideal. 0.97

00:11:58.560 Damn whatever convention, political implication, or personal consequences predominate well 0.99

00:12:05.140 into the medieval period. Lancelot's celebrative wooing of Guinevere, despite 0.98

00:12:10.540 her already being married to King Arthur, the greatest of kings and dearest of

00:12:14.580 Lancelot's friends no less, is an example of how totally passionate romantic love

00:12:19.720 itself is attributed moral and reality's starting importance. A king's greatest

00:12:25.840 ally betrays him in the most humiliating of sexual manners, and this was

00:12:31.240 celebrated for hundreds and now a thousand plus years as amongst the most

00:12:35.560 beautiful admirable tales of true love ever told. So totally is a love

00:12:41.320 celebrated no matter its consequences in the Germanic and Celtic tradition. The

00:12:47.740 most pure example of this is probably Brunhilde and Siegfried, two half-divine

00:12:52.840 figures descended from Odin, she's technically Siegfried's aunt, who fall

00:12:58.600 instantly in love when Siegfried wakes her from a never-ending slumber. Only for

00:13:04.000 Siegfried to paradoxically not marry her. Depending on the version of the story

00:13:10.000 that's told, it's either out of obstinacy, a private promise to another girl, a

00:13:14.860 magic potion that makes Siegfried forget Brunhilde. There are many versions of

00:13:21.220 the story. But what does Brunhilde do with the seeming betrayal? Naturally, she

00:13:27.880 plots have Siegfried killed. She manipulates those around her into killing Siegfried for her, 0.50

00:13:35.360 tricking her either now betrothed or now wedded husband to take part in the plan.

00:13:40.560 And then she dramatically commits suicide in some version after sacrificing her slaves,

00:13:46.520 betraying the man who thought he was to be her husband and casting herself alive onto Siegfried's

00:13:51.760 funeral pyre that she might be his wife in death. In Manosphere language, they're to die with 0.53

00:13:57.780 chad than live with brad here marriage and love is a fury a tempest a wildfire possibly quaint

00:14:07.200 literally something divine of the most horrifyingly sublime and romantic ways

00:14:12.220 with slave girls encouraged and tricked to die with their lords and free women willing to die 0.75

00:14:17.680 in their apocalyptic romantic passions rather than settle for a shameful slavery or a second

00:14:23.040 marriage. We can speculate, as I do elsewhere, about how this heavily

00:14:28.560 selected Germanic attitudes and affected their ongoing genetic stock and the 0.72

00:14:35.040 propensity for blonde women to turn men to psychopaths and commit extraordinary

00:14:39.760 violence and suicide for reasons that no one, not even they, can fully articulate. 0.56

00:14:45.600 This apocalypse of romanticism has often been speculated as highly

00:14:50.840 aristocratic and eugenic, or that it uniquely adapts the North European to

00:14:56.660 the endless wars of that continent. But this is just the immediate marriage

00:15:02.360 norms of four very closely related traditions. These four traditions

00:15:06.840 existed within a few hundred miles of each other, within a few hundred years.

00:15:11.960 Indeed, from about 100 AD to 800 AD you could find some version or proto-

00:15:17.420 virgin of all four of these norms within about a month's walk or what today would be a day's drive

00:15:23.540 of each other. This is how wildly religious and cultural traditions vary and diverge in not the

00:15:31.420 form but the very nature of all values. Brynhilde is not just incompatible with the Christian idea

00:15:39.140 of a wife and motherhood embodying by Mary. She's an image of an almost demonic madness and evil 0.85

00:15:46.800 itself to christianize joseph's forgiveness and understanding towards mary is a mockable dishonor 0.99

00:15:54.540 and his affection a ridiculous pathetic simping and shame for which a caesar would unceremoniously 0.98

00:16:01.840 divorce his own wife without concern or even must remotion lest he be mocked and it damaged his 0.99

00:16:07.640 political career before he returned to his household of loyal slave girls who he exercised

00:16:13.700 total power over. And the nonchalance which even a Caesar would dismiss a wife in her infidelity

00:16:20.320 would be an unacceptable dishonor, demanding blood or eternal shame for a Muslim. Whereas the 1.00

00:16:27.700 flippancy with which a Muslim man might divorce a disobedient wife, wives saying, I divorce you, 0.66

00:16:34.320 I divorce you, I divorce you, would not be a quiet personal tragedy for a German woman, 0.84

00:16:40.000 but rather an outrageous insult to her honor for which she conspired to have her husband killed. 0.99

00:16:48.040 We could go on. 0.98

00:16:49.520 A Japanese lord could simply command an underling to divorce 0.89

00:16:53.000 or command an unmarried or widow lady to marry a person of his choosing.

00:17:00.660 There are even accounts of Japanese lords ordering samurai to kill their own wife

00:17:05.500 for some shame or offense she has done

00:17:07.480 so as to maintain his own honor and family honor. 1.00

00:17:11.180 The Aztec men had great harems,

00:17:13.480 sometimes in the hundreds or thousands of women,

00:17:16.500 for a great Aztec lord. 1.00

00:17:18.280 One via annually declared wars

00:17:20.160 on their heal-out populations of subject people.

00:17:23.440 This is why they had all the human sacrifices. 1.00

00:17:26.180 They needed something to do with all the slaves 0.80

00:17:29.120 they were capturing who were male.

00:17:30.580 Human values and traditions vary vastly more than you'd ever think possible.

00:17:38.240 Things you'd never in a million years imagine anyone doing

00:17:41.960 or that you think would violate all norms of human nature.

00:17:46.140 Some culture has found a way to make it at least conditionally viable.

00:17:51.260 There exists Himalayan tribes that practice reverse polygamy,

00:17:54.800 where one woman takes multiple husbands who trade off during the year.

00:17:59.960 However, this is not to say leftists are right and we are blank slates and cultural constructivism is correct.

00:18:06.620 Rather, the viability of all these cultures, values, and beliefs are determined, at least in part, by the alien selection pressures of genetics and group evolution.

00:18:18.480 Those Himalayan men who share a single wife, for example, are almost always brothers or other close relations who travel for work and survival,

00:18:27.500 such that any child is at least partially related to all of them

00:18:31.640 and they're rarely together competing for her attention at the same time.

00:18:35.800 These brothers might share a wife they only see whilst they're in town

00:18:39.760 the same way brothers might share a distant cottage or a pickup truck.

00:18:45.560 This is why I find it absurd to think paganism would have been corrupted by liberalism too.

00:18:52.440 If paganism had continued, nothing resembling liberalism or egalitarianism

00:18:57.380 could have ever been philosophically suggested.

00:19:00.740 Indeed, if modernity and technology are the corrupting forces

00:19:04.000 and did corrupt either Roman paganism or Germanic paganism,

00:19:09.000 either would have turned into indescribably weird oddities 0.88

00:19:12.860 as alien to modern people as the trans madness or pride crate 0.83

00:19:17.960 would be to a medieval peasant. 1.00

00:19:21.320 Women flying into incomprehensible Brunhild-esque madness 1.00

00:19:25.700 and forming terrorist movements to kill their favorite boy bands, 1.00

00:19:29.520 that together their armed faction might burn alive 0.98

00:19:32.100 and ascent to Valhalla with the Backstreet Boys,

00:19:35.440 boys, whom they've successfully firebombed,

00:19:40.240 only for them to be celebrated by the wider culture

00:19:42.780 and the mad fangirls to be glorified in documentary books and films

00:19:47.540 as divine avatars of true love,

00:19:49.980 the way we celebrate famed rebels or humanitarians. 0.94

00:19:54.540 The recent femme cell shooter would have been treated not as a pathetic madness, 0.97

00:20:01.080 but as a national hero of furious, prideful, and yielding femininity. 0.96

00:20:07.740 Or modern Romans would form political marriages with women they barely meet or never meet

00:20:14.160 and only consummate the marriage so as to expedite a divorce, 0.98

00:20:17.580 even as both husband and wife maintained scores of sugar-baity lovers and captured Iraqi slaves 0.55

00:20:24.260 and coordinated their sexual affairs and romances with each other 0.88

00:20:28.040 so as to best advance their political and sexual careers. 0.94

00:20:32.220 It's possible modern pagan Europe and America would have gone just as mad as the current Christian West has. 0.95

00:20:39.060 Indeed, Rome exhibited several advanced madnesses for its wealth and advancement. 0.97

00:20:45.040 But the madnesses an alternative pagan West might develop under conditions of social media and industrial society

00:20:52.960 would be alien in ways almost unimaginable to the modern Christian West's imagination. 0.99

00:21:01.300 The madnesses of the modern West are entirely Christian. 1.00

00:21:06.620 The unwillingness to judge women and hold them to any standards, 1.00

00:21:10.560 Or, more tellingly, the modern trading of the most outrageous sexual improprieties of world-famous whores 0.98

00:21:18.000 as a tragic form of self-harm from which we should blame the men who interacted with them 0.88

00:21:23.980 or who merely looked up the relevant video online?

00:21:28.220 Her publicly sleeping with a hundred men is a tragic self-harm for which she needed to hug. 0.99

00:21:33.480 You looking up videos of her doing so is a disgusting poor-brained moral failure 1.00

00:21:38.720 for which she should be paraded. 0.97

00:21:41.400 This is merely Christ's forgiveness of Mary Magdalene

00:21:45.020 in his instruction,

00:21:47.280 let he who is without sin cast the first stone, 0.95

00:21:55.300 taken to its most outrageous and ridiculous extreme. 1.00

00:22:00.260 Islam would stone such a woman to death. 1.00

00:22:02.680 The Romans would sell her to a brothel 1.00

00:22:04.400 where she could continue to perverge 1.00

00:22:06.500 until the day she died in obscurity. 0.99

00:22:08.840 And the Germanics? 1.00

00:22:10.100 The free German women would probably execute her 1.00

00:22:13.380 or trick her into one really long drug-fueled orgy 1.00

00:22:17.660 whereby she'd become a human sacrifice. 0.99

00:22:21.200 Look up the Rysla of Ibn Fadlan. 0.93

00:22:24.720 This was one of the Rus' Vikings' recurring sacrifice rituals for slave girls. 0.92

00:22:30.780 Likewise, the inability to turn away refugees who arrived by the millions 0.90

00:22:36.740 is a perversion of the Christian charity to beggars. 0.99

00:22:41.100 Even as the inability to charge them with crimes 1.00

00:22:43.620 or punish them at all comparably

00:22:45.960 with how an established member of the citizenry would be punished,

00:22:50.300 is the Christian forgiveness and special attention to the weak

00:22:53.380 taken to a perverse logical conclusion.

00:22:56.860 Almost all other cultures would treat such people

00:23:00.180 vastly more harshly for being a foreigner accused of a crime

00:23:04.040 as compared with a citizen who is supposed to have rights and privileges and honors equivalent to like minor nobility. 0.68

00:23:13.100 But most importantly, the suicide of the West, the seeming willingness of the West to kill off or suffocate its native population of favor and virtue signaling, 0.92

00:23:23.480 this is uniquely Christian. 0.72

00:23:26.180 Almost all historical religions are ancestral ethnic religions.

00:23:30.200 They replicate via the replication of the people who hold the religion. 0.90

00:23:35.020 Judaism is a good example. 0.84

00:23:37.040 It is incredibly rare for someone to convert to Judaism, 0.97

00:23:40.060 and this is usually done only for marriage. 1.00

00:23:43.700 Judaism spreads by birthing more Jews. 0.57

00:23:47.120 Likewise, the Germanics basically never tried to convert anyone to worshipping Odin. 0.93

00:23:52.600 You spread the faith of Odin by winning in battle,

00:23:55.460 capturing wives, and having little baby Vikings, the Germanic warriors. 0.80

00:23:59.860 Rome started out as an ethnic ancestral religion.

00:24:04.840 But then as it extended citizenship to non-ethnic Romans,

00:24:08.400 it started to collapse as new citizens despised the symbols,

00:24:12.520 ancestors, gods, and heroes of their historic ethnic rivals.

00:24:17.580 This is very similar to America,

00:24:19.460 where Washington, Lee, and Jefferson are hated foremost

00:24:22.720 simply for being white and old men who are symbols of the original America.

00:24:31.240 Christianity, however, has always spread more dramatically via conversion than by multiplication. 0.50

00:24:38.760 Sure, Christians breed, but they don't tell stories about having 12 kids

00:24:43.840 who each have 12 kids of their own and dying in old age.

00:24:46.640 They tell martyr stories, stories of purely unshakably faithful saints who set aside all concern for their own lineage or self-interest so that they might go on mission against the most dangerous heathens and, in most stories, die horribly as a demonstration of the truth of their faith.

00:25:09.360 at which point their heathen persecutors are at least partially persuaded

00:25:15.360 that either they're right or they at least possess some mysterious secret

00:25:20.760 and slowly they assume those Christian values and cultures,

00:25:26.980 even as the saint and their genetics die out.

00:25:30.260 You notice how the West is basically scaling up that story to the entire civilization,

00:25:34.620 willingly sacrificing their birthright, nation, and children at mass scale 0.99

00:25:41.360 to prove them moral points in the hopes they'll persuade African savages, 1.00

00:25:47.600 subcontinental Hindus, and boat people Muslims of their true moral character 0.98

00:25:53.040 and who knows, maybe they think they'll persuade God of their merit as well.

00:25:58.460 That they'll persuade divine entities in the foreign hordes that, no, really, they're not racist. 0.98

00:26:07.680 They really do love the brown heathens as their own children, even as their own children are beaten and raped in their schools. 0.96

00:26:16.280 Now, if you're deeply critical, you may say that Christianity has always been politic, parasitic on its population. 0.99

00:26:23.460 that being a saint is equal to being one of those insects 0.99

00:26:27.160 that's been taken over by parasitic brain worms 0.77

00:26:29.660 and compelled to act against its interests, 0.99

00:26:32.360 climb out on a limb and die

00:26:34.000 so that the bug might be eaten by a bird

00:26:36.680 and the brain worm continue up the food chain.

00:26:40.700 But at least in early Christianity,

00:26:42.740 it was arguable that it was moving up,

00:26:46.540 that the early martyrs were going from slave populations of Jews

00:26:50.880 in the slave Greeks to spreading to high-class Romans and Germanic kings.

00:26:55.820 Those conversions trickled back and benefited the kin of the saint

00:26:59.360 with higher status and access to opportunities and marriages

00:27:02.300 in the higher status communities. 0.99

00:27:05.000 But having infected the entirety of the First World, 1.00

00:27:09.200 the maddened Christianity now sacrificed the flower 1.00

00:27:12.700 of First World European civilization to try and prove its moral worth 1.00

00:27:17.560 to African savages who, in their home countries, 1.00

00:27:20.920 would have converted for one-one-thousandth

00:27:23.000 what Western states spend on them.

00:27:26.060 Or at the least, meld their conversions 0.99

00:27:28.200 and incorporated Christian symbols into their voodoo. 0.98

00:27:34.840 Sorry to break this to you, but Africans and Haitians

00:27:38.060 and several people, their only religion is voodoo. 1.00

00:27:43.240 Converting them to Christianity just 0.86

00:27:44.640 makes it Christian voodoo. 1.00

00:27:47.560 Oh, but you still have to prove you really do love the migrant 0.99

00:27:51.060 and think they're just a generation or two of public school 1.00

00:27:54.280 from being little programmers, doctors, lawyers,

00:27:57.240 and patriotic military officers.

00:27:59.960 This is all the more disturbing

00:28:01.740 because academia now tries to force them through

00:28:04.900 for doctor and lawyer,

00:28:06.240 and the military now tries to force them through for commission,

00:28:09.480 with obvious disastrous result.

00:28:12.840 Simply put,

00:28:14.740 When even places that never convert to monotheism like Japan, China, and even now India are below replacement for fertility,

00:28:23.600 largely because of U.S. forced constitutions and the communist revolution in the first two instances destroyed the traditional range matchmaking system,

00:28:33.180 I don't think we can afford a culture built around values that aren't even optimized to spread by sexual reproduction but by conversion. 0.62

00:28:43.860 I don't think we can afford a culture that treats beggars as satric objects

00:28:48.400 when the West is under 15% of the world's population

00:28:51.800 and there are literally billions of beggars just a 12-hour flight from your front door. 0.99

00:28:57.960 And I don't think we can afford a culture which values quiet endurance,

00:29:03.120 tolerance, and turning the other cheek when the West has everything to lose.

00:29:08.820 In a world where we're wealthy enough to indulge almost anything

00:29:12.520 without people dying young for their poor choices,

00:29:15.620 we need a culture where pride and honor, war-fighting, fitness, and dominance 0.96

00:29:20.220 is valued above pride and being special, meek, disabled, or sexually degenerate and failed. 1.00

00:29:27.720 There is a reason the modern pride fight has not just gay, 0.88

00:29:31.540 but disabled and black identity included in this color scheme.

00:29:36.160 It's the same Christian egalitarian pride and joy

00:29:39.180 as saying a Down syndrome child is just as good and worthy of saving,

00:29:45.140 and that the faith and soul of despised minority is just as important. 0.76

00:29:51.600 These are continuations of Christian morality to even more absurd logical conclusions, 0.67

00:29:57.100 just as Nietzsche predicted, and Tom Holland in his book Traditions 0.82

00:30:01.460 and Other Progressive Liberal Christians of the 2010s openly celebrate as their final victory.

00:30:09.180 that homosexuality, secularism, liberalism, the Beals, and Me Too are all deeply Christian

00:30:16.060 and do not make sense outside a Christian moral framework.

00:30:19.900 And one might add mass migration, lockdowns, vaccine mandates,

00:30:24.180 or at least the moral justification, protect your neighbor.

00:30:29.180 All only makes sense in the Christian moral framework and its descendant ideologies.

00:30:35.200 Islamic, Roman, Germanic, Aztec, and Celtic moral systems would be alienly different and incompatible with these moral instincts.

00:30:46.920 The interesting thing is, however, because of how Christianity implanted in the West,

00:30:53.180 we have examples of pre-Christian cultural and moral artifacts continuing up until the late 19th and early 20th century.

00:31:01.100 The European practice of dueling had no Jewish or Christian precedent.

00:31:06.720 There is exactly one duel in the Bible,

00:31:10.440 and David cheated, and Goliath's seconds, if they weren't dishonorable, would kill David for cheating.

00:31:18.460 Indeed, Christian priests advocated against dueling,

00:31:21.480 denouncing it as a murder and attempted to criminalize duels,

00:31:25.280 basically from the second they gained any authority. 0.98

00:31:27.760 Yet the ancient culture of aristocratic honor and the contest to maintain one's own image for courage and greater dignity than the rabble 0.96

00:31:36.760 continued up until the mid-19th century, even the early 20th century in Germany and Eastern Europe. 0.96

00:31:43.780 Likewise, the institutions and cultures of royal courts and the divine right of kings,

00:31:49.040 the institution of slavery in the Americas, women's sports and traveling,

00:31:53.160 and many core liberties such as the right to free speech and the right to keep and bear arms

00:31:58.160 all have a little to no biblical precedent but are found in pagan germanic kingly culture

00:32:04.580 or the philosophy of aristotle the greek city-states and germanic valkyrie culture and

00:32:10.440 the self-set limits and virtues the various city-states caesars and kings accepted for

00:32:16.220 themselves. Notably, both Caesar Augustus and the Germanic all thing are praised in primary

00:32:22.880 sources, all Roman, for the freedom of speech they tolerated and enabled. Indeed, one could argue

00:32:30.220 much of the sickness of modernity, if one needs a more recent origin, results from the death of

00:32:36.840 the absolutist European monarchies in World War I, and the results in death of the ancient European

00:32:42.100 social and cultural institutions that were both pre-Christian or medieval.

00:32:49.240 However, I'd argue the end result is the same.

00:32:52.320 Whether one accepts the near dates or thinks the cultural decline is an ancient erosion

00:32:57.440 that's continued to the modern day, many of the most important European values and

00:33:03.460 cultural institutions, individual honor defended by dueling, the lust for glory,

00:33:08.640 glory the semi-psychite germanic female pride apocalyptic romantic love hellenic philosophy

00:33:16.720 ruthless roman military dish discipline the kind of which the royal navy would copy individual

00:33:25.200 fitness and women's sportings individual liberties like the right to keep in bare armor the freedom

00:33:30.440 of speech the valuing of individual authenticity and fort rightness right or wrong above all else

00:33:36.800 and the willingness to die or commit suicide rather than partake in dishonor.

00:33:41.760 All of these had their origin in the various pagan traditions of Europe

00:33:46.060 and were maintained by European institutions that originated in paganism

00:33:50.820 and cannot be justified or recreated by Christian values, morality, institutions, and culture

00:33:58.180 because they were never Christian in origin.

00:34:02.520 You cannot find any of these in the Bible. 0.71

00:34:05.000 And I do not believe any of them can be recaptured or revived without reviving the pagan values and cultures that originally birthed them. 0.75

00:34:13.980 You cannot get European dueling or death before dishonor out of the Christian moral framework, nor can you get Roman military discipline. 0.92

00:34:23.180 Christ's apostles fell asleep at their watch in the Garden of Gethsemane, whereas into the 19th century, the Royal Navy would have hanged a 13-year-old boy for falling asleep at the watch.

00:34:33.460 You cannot recapture the ambition for conquest and adventure without returning to the Iliad and sagas. 0.97

00:34:42.900 And you cannot revive our ancient European honors and liberties without actually treating the cultures and the all things that birth those liberties and honors is sacred instead of pagan stupidities.

00:34:55.400 And you cannot recapture national and ethnic honor, culture, self-discipline, and glory 0.79

00:35:02.320 without treating those cultures and ethnicities and divine and wise in themselves 1.00

00:35:07.160 instead of wild, backward savages set straight by Jews and their bondage. 1.00

00:35:15.360 This has been the Depths of Religious and Value Differences, 0.87

00:35:20.820 originally published at Narconomicon.com.

00:35:23.120 I'm your host, Catgirl Deluxe, signing off.

00:35:29.200 They will chain you, like Prometheus, to a rock,

00:35:35.120 where the memory of your own greatness will gnaw you.

00:35:39.180 the battle for the mind of north america will be fought in the video arena the video drum

00:35:58.940 you look around what do you see businessmen teachers lawyers carpenters the very minds of

00:36:05.940 people we are trying to save but until we do these people are still a part of that system

00:36:11.140 and that makes them our enemy no we're not doing that you're getting called a slur

00:36:17.380 after all there is nothing real outside our perception of reality is there you can see that

00:36:25.620 can't you tribal people uh one of the main uh kinds of sport is sort of butchering each other

00:36:32.580 It's a full-time sport in Trump's societies.

00:36:36.100 You, my children, are the water.

00:36:39.460 They will wash away all that has gone before. 0.98

00:36:44.460 The gleam in the eye of sex.

00:36:47.120 It's very simple.

00:36:48.800 The message is force is more effective than voting.

00:36:52.560 Elections change nothing.

00:36:54.220 But I had some ideas.

00:36:55.180 We got global and tribal.

00:36:56.700 We were going to become...

00:36:57.900 The closer we got together, the more you like each other?

00:37:00.060 Yeah.

00:37:00.760 There's no evidence of that in any situation that we've ever heard of.

00:37:04.880 Major Lennox answered with his life, as you should have done if you had any sense of honor.

00:37:09.400 You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.

00:37:14.420 And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

00:37:20.680 He who saves a nation violates no law.

00:37:26.540 All forms of violence are a quest for identity.

00:37:32.500 When you live out on the frontier, you have no identity, you're a nobody, therefore you

00:37:37.620 get very tough.

00:37:39.620 You have to prove that you are somebody, and so you become very violent. 1.00

00:37:44.540 I'm coming to kill you! 1.00

00:37:47.300 For greater safety, please avoid the English language. 0.99

00:37:53.800 Please do not translate this message.

00:37:57.500 So identity is always accompanied by violence.

00:38:01.700 This seems paradoxical to you?

00:38:03.860 It works.

00:38:05.400 Violence works.

00:38:06.400 Therefore, television is reality, and reality is less than television.

00:38:13.760 Were you listening to me, Neo, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? 0.91

00:38:18.080 It's just a grotesque postmodern psy-op and anyone who's fallen for this is brain damaged. 0.97

Anarchonomicon - February 07, 2025

Ep 3： Audio-Essay ＂The Depth of Religious and Value Difference＂

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