00:05:22.240And this is one of the one of the sources for the Epstein Island list you will see online everywhere that they basically confirmed that the version that leaked in 2019 was genuine.
00:05:38.840Yeah, I don't know much about the leak. Like there was a leak of screenshots or photographs of the CIA or FBI or were they?
00:05:52.240uh so there's like a pdf of um it's like a hundred or so pages it's like basically
00:06:00.640epstein's rolodex did it have flight logs in it uh i believe there were like some things like that
00:06:10.740i remember looking through and i was like surprised that um like basically the major
00:06:16.860difference from the like like redacted version they put out recently and this version that leaked
00:06:24.620was the leaked version still had the home addresses and phone numbers of all the figures involved but
00:06:30.800this is like from 2008 so like no one still has the same phone number or address well i have seen
00:06:40.660a bunch of stuff online i'm assuming what i've seen is the same as what you saw but there's there's a
00:06:46.340whole bunch of stuff. It's all muddled because Epstein, so the Trump administration said they're
00:06:53.720going to release the JFK files and they were going to release the Epstein files. On the day they
00:06:58.420supposedly released the Epstein files, they didn't, everybody probably already knows this, but
00:07:03.160they didn't really release anything new. And they said the reason why is because the Southern
00:07:08.580District of New York and the FBI in New York were holding back and they didn't turn over everything
00:07:13.420they had, and that they were going to, I don't know, sue, or in some other way, put pressure
00:07:18.980on them to get the files released, and since then, yesterday, so yesterday was Monday the
00:07:24.5603rd of February, excuse me, of March, and yeah, Monday the 3rd of March, the FBI chief
00:07:35.420in New York resigned because he said, you know, they're, it looked like they were going
00:07:42.680to fire him basically i think pam bondi might have even said she was going to fire him but
00:07:46.860they were they were pressuring and otherwise threatening these people so he didn't want to
00:07:51.060comply and he he uh resigned so pam bondi is now saying they got the files that they wanted
00:07:57.960but there's national security secrets in them or compromising information to national security
00:08:05.440so they're going to redact anything that's compromising to national security so as anybody
00:08:10.420what half a brain should have known from the minute they said these files are going to be
00:08:14.140released it's now confirmed that that's going to be heavily redacted what what will they redact i
00:08:20.060don't know will we learn anything new i don't exactly know but this is still worth talking
00:08:27.260about and worth paying attention for a bunch of important reasons and mainly i think the epstein
00:08:34.620files are a bargaining chip for him because he's currently trying to broker peace in the ukraine
00:08:40.400And the United Kingdom is taking a very oppositional stance to the Trump administration, saying they're not going to support Ukraine.
00:08:49.240They're not going to give Zelensky any more money.
00:08:51.780And they also are saying that if they do support them more, they want access to the rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine.
00:09:00.340However, rare earth minerals are inaccessible.
00:09:04.180There was one survey commissioned by the Ukrainian government recently, before any of this happened, but recently, saying that it's not possible to even begin to dig for any of these minerals until at least 2027.
00:10:08.060So, if you think of rare minerals, like, accessible rare minerals, you'd expect it to be, like, barely randomly distributed in terms of, like, the world's circus area, right?
00:10:20.320like um like uh human settlement patterns were not determined by access to like lithium or
00:10:28.580whatnot it's a completely irrelevant resource right up until um like 10 years ago when they
00:10:36.560decided to like make lithium everything like it's kind of valuable for cell phones but like even
00:10:42.120like uh electric cars like electric cars are basically a spook like they're never going to
00:10:47.700like at your place gas vehicles and like gas vehicles are basically never going away like
00:10:53.520oil is an actual vital resource that like distorts geopolitics like like uh the oil
00:11:01.700resources of like venezuela or russia or the middle east warps the world around it rare earth
00:11:08.260minerals however only ever crop up in hot spots like as a topic of conversation in a hot spots
00:11:17.200where the u.s government wanted to militarize it anyway so like um if rare earth minerals were so
00:11:25.920valuable what you'd expect is it to be like basically really random like which parts of
00:11:31.060the world surface uh these vital vital rare earth minerals that are located like you'd expect that
00:11:38.600like northern canada or like vast stretches of the amazon or like random countries in africa
00:11:45.460are like suddenly becoming like hot spots you'd expect all suddenly like flashpoints to erupt
00:11:51.740over like obscure parts of like the siberian peninsula or like or like alaska all suddenly
00:11:59.400alaska needs to be militarized because you know it's these vast stretches of land and if this
00:12:05.020randomly distributed mineral is suddenly so valuable you'd expect to be dropping up highly
00:12:11.920viable in random stretches of land like you wouldn't expect um this to like ukraine was
00:12:18.940already like the crossroads of the world for war because it's like farmable but it's also at the
00:12:24.540crossroads of the eurasian staff but it's also where like 10 different ethnicities intersect
00:12:29.700and it's also where the khazars come from like you not expect like a random unobtainable resource
00:12:37.380to just randomly beam Ukraine that we are hearing about, like, two years after war has erupted
00:12:45.740there. Like, they weren't even talking about rare earth minerals in, like, 2020 in Ukraine.
00:12:50.940It wasn't even a discussion, like, related to the original Ukrainian civil war. It just crops up
00:12:56.360as, like, a red herring or, like, something to, like, throw around negotiations when people need
00:13:05.320a talking point for propaganda purposes. That's so excellently well said. And I've sort of started
00:13:12.740to intuit this too, by the way rare earth minerals have been talked about throughout my life. And
00:13:18.440that's exactly true. It's the only time it ever comes up. And people say this is kind of like
00:13:25.820a concept that's out there in the ether, that wars aren't really fought over natural resources
00:13:32.060anymore. That's not kind of like not really how like the geopolitical thing functions anymore.
00:13:37.820It's pretty much like more or less trade is what wars fought over, like trade routes access. For
00:13:44.680example, the Crimea is their outlet to the Black Sea. So that's why they wanted Crimea. But it is
00:13:51.680used as a posture. And I've seen it used as a posture very often, especially with China.
00:13:57.360So, for example, there was all this rare earth resources in Afghanistan that were purchased by the Chinese after the war.
00:14:18.320Like we can't allow the Chinese to get access to the rare earth there.
00:14:22.240The last I knew, 15 years later, they're still not being developed.
00:14:26.780And the Belt and Road Initiative was a huge, you know, this was a Chinese initiative around the world to basically build roads all around the world and train tracks to ship goods and trade and raw material around, I want to, I was going to say the provinces, but China, like, isn't really an empire.
00:14:47.780This is really privateering or something.
00:15:04.820That was huge in the news 10 years ago.
00:15:06.540And you never hear anything more about it.
00:15:08.380And it's like a lot of this stuff never really got off the ground.
00:15:11.040And now that Trump is talking about it in Ukraine, of course, if you if you scratch below the surface, I mean, it took me, it might have been the first thing that came up on Google.
00:15:22.780I read this report from from the Ukrainian government that said these these minerals are not accessible in any realistic sense and in any timely fashion.
00:15:32.680And that's like if there wasn't a war there. Of course, you know, all bets on timetables are off the off the table if there's still a war there.
00:15:42.080So you're right. I mean, if that's what you mean by calling it a spook, yeah, that's that's a really good perspective.
00:15:46.840And I agree. And I think too much is made about the rare earth.
00:15:52.080And honestly, if you watch the Trump, not to be it wasn't a debate, but if you watch the Trump discussion with Zelensky, Trump kind of said that he kind of was like, look,
00:16:02.000we don't care that much about your rare earth all right so like it's not that big of a deal
00:16:05.620because natural gas and and and oil are way more valuable and we have more than that and we and
00:16:11.980you have some but we don't need yours so like trump understands it's a bargaining chip but
00:16:18.100the thing is is like my opinion is that i don't know where you stand on trump uh i'm i'm like a
00:16:26.320lukewarm supporter of trump but at the end of the day i'm still a supporter of trump and you
00:16:31.940know it looks to me like all of this is bargaining all this is bargaining so ukraine excuse me the
00:16:40.140united kingdom put like a bid for lack of a better term it wasn't really a bid an offer
00:16:45.660they put forth a deal to support ukraine in the war in order to get their access to their rare
00:16:53.880earths but the the the the um okay oh this is how we this is by the way how this ties back to epstein
00:17:00.940OK, so I think it was January 19th, the United Kingdom approached Ukraine and said, if you give us access to this percentage of like the revenue generated by your rare earth, we will continue to support you financially in the war against Russia for X amount of dollars.
00:17:21.180now understand everyone involved here knows that no one can get at the rare earth half of the rare
00:17:28.940earth that ukraine has are now are currently under russian occupation so they've already lost half of
00:17:33.980it and the rest of it is in it's all in the east so it's in like a contested area or or or a hot
00:17:40.240zone it's in an area where active fighting is happening or where at least where mobilization
00:17:44.860and heavy militarization is happening nobody's going to go anywhere near those so the deal
00:17:51.340has a has a stipulation in it that that says basically like we know you can't give us any
00:17:58.100money for these rare earths and we are giving you the money now so until you're able to start making
00:18:05.240profits off the rare earth you're going to give us uh some share of like ukraine's gdp some tiny
00:18:13.240percentage of like the gdp of ukraine will go to us to pay us back for helping you right the u.s's
00:18:20.460proposal was for more access to the rare earth than uk asked for and in lieu of the the revenue
00:18:29.420for the rare earth uh profits in lieu of that they asked for a greater share of ukraine's gdp
00:18:37.440But also, we would support them at more money than the UK would give. So we would we would loan them make give them bigger loans than the UK. So I think that part of what's happening is the US is trying to Trump is trying to put the US in a better position that if we continue the war in Ukraine, which we're not now today, the fourth, the day we're podcasting, they announced that we're cutting off aid to Ukraine.
00:19:06.120Everyone kind of knew it was going to go this way.
00:19:08.600But Trump did put an offer on the table, and it was probably his plan the whole time to completely cut off aid.
00:19:15.240I've been saying in my podcast he was going to completely cut off aid within the first, like, two months of his administration, and we're pretty much right in that timetable.
00:19:25.340But he put the offer on the table, and it was kind of an unrealistic offer.
00:19:29.160Like, there's no way they're going to be giving the U.S. as much as their profit generation of their GDP or of their rare earth.
00:19:42.520Furthermore, Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe, all right?
00:19:48.580So they can't even really pay back our loans.
00:19:52.080They can't even really pay back our loans.
00:19:53.720So there's no good—the U.S. gets nothing.
00:19:58.020The only thing the U.S. gets out of a war in Ukraine is the geostrategic positioning against Russia that it wants if, if Ukraine becomes a NATO country because we can put missiles there, right?
00:20:49.540There's damning evidence against the United Kingdom and their government and the royal family in the Epstein files.
00:20:57.220One of the most heavily compromised world figures by Epstein was Prince Andrews.
00:21:02.660He retired from public life in 2019 because of the Epstein files.
00:21:10.420And this may have had something to do with the leaks you were talking about, right?
00:21:13.200So while Trump is trying to strong arm Ukraine into a deal that he knows they're not going to accept, so he knows they're going to turn them down, he's also shutting the United Kingdom out and he's trying to strong arm the UK out.
00:21:32.580At the same time, he's trying to force Ukraine into a deal he knows they're not going to take.
00:21:38.080And when they refuse to take the deal, he then says we cut off aid.
00:21:41.440now that the aid has been cut off all of a sudden the files are coming out you see what i'm saying
00:21:47.760the uk gets shut out they get this thrown in their face like we have dirt on you
00:21:54.440we have all the files you know what's in the files we know what's in the files and you know
00:22:00.600my contention is also that trump isn't in the files that's a little bit of a different story
00:22:04.520but people argue that trump was compromised too i don't know how compromised trump was i i i tend
00:22:10.840to think he wasn't. And part of the reason I tend to think he wasn't is because he's being so
00:22:14.880cavalier about this release. I think he knows that he wasn't. And one of the people he released
00:22:21.880the files to was Mike Cernovich. And say what you want about Mike Cernovich. I'm personally not a
00:22:27.160fan, but I'm not an enemy either. I just kind of like don't pay attention to the guy. Say what you
00:22:35.100want about him. He's a Trump supporter. That's incontestable. He's been pro-Trump the whole
00:22:41.760time. His whole career, his whole punditry is based on being pro-Trump. Cernovich, why was
00:22:48.180Cernovich one of the people given the files? Well, in 2015, Ghislaine Maxwell went on trial.
00:22:54.840And who did they interview to get information about Ghislaine Maxwell? But one Jeffrey Epstein.
00:23:02.820And there was all sorts of information brought forth in that trial. God only knows what's in it, right? Jeffrey Epstein gave, I don't want to say testimony, but interview information to the court about Ghislaine Maxwell. I believe it was 40 pages long.
00:23:19.740And one of the things that happened as part of the deal that Maxwell got, Maxwell's in prison right now, but she did, you know, make a deal of some sort, was to have all those records sealed, right?
00:23:33.920mike cernovich and fucking alan dershowitz of all people along with a bunch of other people
00:23:42.340including the miami herald sued the court to unseal those records and it took years
00:23:49.800and they eventually got the records unsealed right so mike cernovich is one of the people
00:24:27.220But it's definitely damning to the United Kingdom's government.
00:24:32.240And this big media spectacle happened right before the United Kingdom showed up and right before the Ukraine showed up and right before Trump outbid the United Kingdom with a deal that the Ukrainians can't survive without accepting.
00:24:52.260But if they reject it, they also have they can't survive the war.
00:24:56.640they have to end the war they have to come to terms if they reject our deal now some people
00:25:02.520say this is cope some i i was accused of being like a cutard when i laid this out a bunch of
00:25:08.080people were like dude you're basically like a fucking plan truster and i'm like yeah i guess
00:25:13.920i am because this is what i think happened and i think it i think i'm already proven right
00:25:18.060because as soon as the ukraine's aid got cut off uh trump's like okay here's the files
00:25:26.200And what are they? They're going to be heavily redacted, useless files with information we already know.
00:25:31.200So that's it in a nutshell. Now, I could go on and on and on because the rare earth, there's much more to the rare earth thing than what I've already talked about.
00:25:38.680But it will take us off topic that we want to talk about. So it's up to you where you want to take it.
00:25:44.900yeah so so there's one nation you kind of forgot to mention in in this circle around epstein and
00:25:55.320that's like israel you know the nation i'm aware of it though i'm aware yeah yeah so this is this
00:26:04.040is kind of the map that i have of what's going on right now so for those of you who don't know
00:26:10.560For those of you who need to be persuaded, it's obvious that the number one nation that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were spying for, the ultimate beneficiary of all their blackmail operations, was the state of Israel.
00:26:26.520You can argue that they were also selling information to, say, MI6 or CIA on the side or that they were feeding crumbs to them.
00:26:35.940But basically, there's Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was buried on Mount
00:26:44.500Olive in Israel with the Israeli president, the Israeli prime minister, and six current
00:26:50.400and former heads of the Mossad in attendance.
00:26:54.240Like Ghislaine Maxwell is Israeli royalty.
00:26:58.500She's the daughter of Israeli James Bond.
00:31:39.860but are very continuous with the international diaspora of Jews.
00:31:44.720So like all the liberal Jews in New York and elsewhere,
00:31:49.180a bunch of them are labor Zionists who left Israel
00:31:53.300and a bunch of them are like Zionists who never went to Israel
00:32:00.820are like set lukewarm zionists who always identified with the labor zionists because
00:32:07.840the labor zionists were um secular communist jews who like identified with their jewish
00:32:14.620ethnicity but weren't religious as are like most most uh liberal jews in new york liberal jews in
00:32:22.760dc liberal jews throughout the diaspora so what what's happened in like the past 20 years
00:32:29.620is that at really like it's been a long process but basically labor zionism like left-wing zionism
00:32:37.940in israel has like died out because they weren't really breeding and meanwhile of course the
00:32:44.320religious zionists have like a high high um birth rate and there's been like a sorting mechanism
00:32:51.820where religious Zionists are vastly more likely to move to Israel.
00:32:57.700Israel, whereas labor Zionists, like, are vastly more likely to leave Israel
00:33:02.420as, like, they get disgusted or disillusioned or whatever.
00:33:07.720This is a major theme of Israeli art, art and Jewish art.
00:33:12.160If you watch Steven Spielberg's Munich,
00:33:16.060a major theme of it is the liberal musad agent who's the star of munich uh becomes disgusted
00:33:25.200at what he's done for israel and decides to settle in new york and this is a big statement
00:33:30.460of like liberal steven spielberg his criticism of israel and whatnot and that's a story that
00:33:37.440has like played out hundreds of thousands of times over like the previous few decades so there's
00:33:43.980So there's this like massive divide within like kind of Zionist Judaism or soft Zionist Judaism between liberal leftist Jews who like had become like very social justice, justicy or like were always very leftist and have like become become more so or become like American leftist.
00:34:05.940basically who are increasingly like detached from israel but represent most of the power
00:34:13.540in like um kind of the global elite and then there are the religious zionists who are increasingly
00:34:20.360like like who are now completely dominant is in israel this is like netanyahu's core faction
00:34:28.020is this alliance of religious Zionists who like have a strong diaspora like um Ben Shapiro and
00:34:36.060all these other figures are like Likudnik are associated with Likud they have um they have all
00:34:43.020these social religious Zionists associates throughout the world but they're vastly less
00:34:48.860represented diaspora so really when you when people say Zionists are behind things or the
00:34:57.580zionists are um are running the government or have like an effective veto over western governments
00:35:04.680which is zionists because there's there's the left zionists who are like highly globalist
00:35:11.520and then there are religious zionists who are like highly focused on like greater israel and
00:35:17.440what we what we saw like during the biden years is like this really has heated up to the point
00:35:26.500where like biden and blinken and all these figures associate because biden of course like was an
00:35:32.100empty suit biden's in the office and like he doesn't know where he is half the time he like
00:35:37.020can't words the other half the time uh basically it's accepted that anthony blinken okay who's um
00:35:45.280who's the stepson of simon's pizarre like he was raised by simon simon pizarre sorry samuel pizarre
00:35:54.020who was Robert Maxwell's best friend, personal lawyer, and business partner.
00:36:01.260Like, Anthony Blinken was a childhood friend of Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:36:07.240Like, if Ghislaine Maxwell had not met Jeffrey Epstein,
00:36:14.300she would have probably married Anthony Blinken.
00:36:18.040Like, that is how close these people are.
00:36:20.480Why is no one talking about this dude?
00:36:24.020like like why is this oh this like a lot of people will be like oh this is conspiracy theory
00:36:29.940no it's not you just go to robert maxwell's funeral and it lays out his eulogy was given
00:36:36.360by simon tazar who's simon tazar click on it stepson anthony blinken lincoln like these people
00:36:42.900are like this close and the relationships are this obvious obvious in this open this much
00:36:49.320a matter of public record um i i put a tweet recently that that's like um you can really tell
00:36:55.500that like um when all this stuff was going down when they're having like public funerals and
00:37:01.300eulogizing maxwell that they i suspect they didn't realize that like be he's laying maxwell epstein
00:37:09.420thing would grow to what it did because like you would not put out all that information if you like
00:37:16.840knew that these people like were going to be doing this and going to be caught so like a lot of it
00:37:22.660was growing in the 90s but like there's this like massive evolution and information that happens
00:37:28.080that you can just draw these lines immediately but um but the power struggle that's happening
00:37:34.300because anthony blinken is basically running the u.s government he's the he's the unelected
00:37:39.640god emperor of the u.s during the biden years by and large and and he acting as joe biden
00:37:49.920tells the israeli generals because it's because the war in gaza is hurting biden's re-election
00:37:56.660chances he tells the israeli generals hey if you launched a military coup and overthrew netanyahu
00:38:04.640the u.s would not complain and the generals refused refused in israel and this like became
00:38:13.420a public a matter of public record like this is in the times of jerusalem uh what is a jerusalem
00:38:21.660post it's in several oh yeah yeah i read that sometimes yeah yeah it's i i googled it like
00:38:28.540Turns out, U.S. asked Israel to overthrow Netanyahu.
00:38:34.460They put on the paper that this conversation had happened, and this was like hinted or intimated.
00:38:43.160So why is there like this power struggle going on now?
00:38:48.080Well, because Trump is nearly directly related to Netanyahu.
00:38:54.860So Netanyahu is the godfather of Jared Kushner.
00:38:59.640Like when Netanyahu came and visited New York before he was prime minister in like the 80s, 80s, he would stay at Jared Kushner's house and sleep in Jared Kushner's bed while Jared Kushner took the couch.
00:39:13.560Like that's how closely these people are related to Chuck.
00:39:18.420and trump trump allegedly trump like does not like netanyahu uh because netanyahu was the first
00:39:26.580person to endorse biden in 2020 like trump has a rivalry with him with him but the thing is like
00:39:34.000netanyahu it is the most prominent basically the entire netanyahu faction has been prominently in
00:39:41.300the trump camp for 2024 and the reason for that is because the globalist jewish faction that like
00:39:50.020biden and blink and all these people represent turned on netanyahu and like netanyahu um this
00:39:56.940is hard for americans to comprehend because like america like has never enforced consequences for
00:40:03.940any of its leadership like going back to like the war of 1812 like James Madison pardoned General
00:40:12.580Hull for like surrendering Fort Detroit and like 2,500 soldiers who a smaller force like it was
00:40:21.740he was tried and convicted of cowardice and treason and like Madison pardoned him and basically
00:40:27.920since then no u.s official has ever been held accountable for anything so this is like very
00:40:34.540hard for you for u.s listeners to understand but netanyahu has been like like for the past
00:40:42.160year plus has been desperately trying to cling to power because the second he leaves power
00:40:47.180um he has corruption charges that are haunting him and basically it's well understood
00:40:52.920Israeli society and has been commented
00:40:56.100on by like the Judge Knapp crowd and all
00:40:58.000sort, that if he loses power, he loses
00:43:05.760complete completely different so you have these two very intense israeli political factions that
00:43:13.080like ate each other and heavily assassinated each other within like the past two three decades um
00:43:20.360and you have this massive power struggle between the diaspora jews and the the religious zionist
00:43:28.020Jews that Netanyahu represents and so the question is well which of these factions
00:43:36.600like is control of the Epstein stash which of these factions is actually like in control of
00:43:43.580the blackmail that they could leak it and it's and like normally like you'd expect the Mursad
00:43:52.320to like kind of jealously guard its neutrality on that stuff but if you look at which faction
00:44:00.640within that is like responsible for ukraine because um ukraine for those of you at home
00:44:08.500who are like this is going by like at like a hundred miles it's going to be going faster
00:44:14.580So Ukraine is entirely a result, like the escalation of Ukraine is entirely a result of Jewish money, basically.
00:44:29.120What happened in Russia in the 90s is the exact same thing that happened in Weimar in the 30s, where you had a collapsed empire with no internal capital that had historical ties to international Jewish finance.
00:44:53.420So almost all the Jews in the world, like a majority of them, come out of Eastern Europe within living memory.
00:45:02.400Like Russia had the largest Jewish population in the world up until like, I want to say the 80s.
00:45:10.720Now Russia actually has one of the smallest Jewish populations in the world.
00:45:14.040It's gone from like about 8 million down to 50,000 because all the poor Jews that were in Russia left
00:45:20.800And all the wealthy Jews who, like, had money and still, like, spoke Eastern European languages went into, there's a slight influx of them in the 90s, numbers-wise not very large, but in terms of economic impact, very large, who came into Russia and started buying up and using, like, various mafia-type connections to take over segments of the Russian state or Russian industries.
00:45:50.800industries and jump in they did this with massive amounts of help from the united states government
00:45:56.740yes exactly this is this is one of the things that like um you see these types of criminal
00:46:03.120operations that cannot exist anywhere else because they have basically two nation state level actors
00:46:09.280uh fully backing them they have israel to play to which israel will not extradite a um ethnic jew
00:46:17.680And they have the U.S., which vast chunks of its foreign policy since the 1930s have been run by, like, the Jewish faction of the Democratic Party.
00:46:30.340But, and the neocons were basically an offshoot faction of them who wound up being very prominent in the Republican Party.
00:46:40.540But they go into Russia, like Germany in the 20s, and they're plundering the country.
00:46:48.640There's lots of sex trafficking around this time.
00:46:51.260They take over large segments of Russian industry.
00:46:55.440And these Jewish oligarchs, most vast segments of the Russian oligarch class were ethnic Jewish.
00:47:05.420Um, actually, uh, oh God, tip of my tongue, tip of my tongue, uh, ahead of Wagner.
00:47:13.760Um, uh, for Gozin, he was part, part shish.
00:47:20.920Um, but yeah, but was he connected to this oligarch?
00:47:25.700Yeah, he was a wealthy oligarch, but, um, what happens around 2008, 2009 is Putin was
00:47:33.400aligned with the u.s throughout like the early 2000s and like was actually favored by um a lot
00:47:41.260of the oligarchs in the early early 2000s i'm getting most of this from reading between the
00:47:47.560lines of bill prouder's red notice who was was um one of these oligarchs who went in and plundered
00:47:56.440russia with the help of several different israeli billionaires but um
00:48:03.240but around 2008 what happened was putin starts to purge all these oligarchs and like basically
00:48:13.420makes them either retire or leave or confiscates their assets like like putin has secured enough
00:48:23.460power by 2008 he's been in long enough he has has these connections that he starts really cracking
00:48:29.760down on these all-yard sort of running like protection rackets on his country and like
00:48:34.940basically exercise being the most corrupt rentier class you can imagine he starts purging them
00:48:41.300because like they're they're barnacles on the the russian state like uh once you have secure
00:48:47.980ownership over the state like you've never allowed these people to do this do this for any reason
00:48:53.560like when she felt ownership of of the same and all like uh it's just corruption so he starts
00:49:00.220purging purging them and and bill browder and his associates are several are several of the
00:49:09.280oligarchs that he basically confiscates their assets and kicks them out but bill browder's
00:49:15.680So Bill Browder is a direct descendant of one of the most traumatic communists of the 1920s.
00:49:25.680His branding was, my grandfather was the biggest communist in America, and I wanted to be the biggest capitalist in Russia.
00:49:33.060But he was plundering the Russian society just like all of them.
00:49:41.400he was he was kicked out but his lawyer sergey magnitsky died in prison like by all accounts
00:49:49.700fairly randomly like um but i've never heard it really alleged that like hooten or anyone like
00:49:56.640purposely stalled out to have him killed like russian prison prison and like jail is a tough
00:50:02.580place like there's a lot of random deaths that happen there but um he he flees to america and
00:50:12.080he goes to ukraine and several other places but he winds up immediately connected with john mccain
00:50:19.060and christia freeland yes that christia freeland who's yeah yeah against minister of canada she
00:50:24.560was a reuters reporter who was heavily connected and like like heavily involved in the ukrainian
00:50:30.440diaspora in canada and like they were doing their own little rigmarole in ukraine at the time
00:50:36.560but but with pristia freeland and john mccain john mccain and probably a whole bunch of other
00:50:44.480oligarchs and figures that like didn't write a book about it they passed the magnitsky act
00:50:51.700act an entire series of sanctions on on russia starting around 2012 this is around the time
00:50:58.580that all suddenly all these like russian anarchist fairs like feminine feminine and all this uh
00:51:05.300posy ride all this stuff all suddenly they become like really really prom prom it and they start
00:51:10.480getting like heavily funded and well you almost certainly receive like millions backdoor by
00:51:17.000by usaid and stuff like that but this all happens around 2012 and then by 2014
00:51:24.600the maidan revolution happens in ukraine and so what happened within that like secure span that
00:51:32.900went from like putin being an ally of the u.s largely and like actually assisting the u.s in
00:51:38.480the war on terror terror and like in containing containing islamic fundamentalism to like
00:51:46.460we're overthrowing his guy in in ukraine and like there's there's ethnic cleansing starting
00:51:54.760of ethnic russians in in ukraine well he kicked out all these oligarchs garchs basically all the
00:52:01.740money laundering that was going to russia ended ended like all these operations ended and and
00:52:09.340the wars of the u.s in the in the middle east were winding down down so they shipped it all
00:52:16.820to ukraine and actually john mccain you can look at photos john mccain was in ukraine as euro
00:52:25.980my dan was happening and like taking cell phone photos videos and like drinking drinking wine
00:52:34.760out of a glass as as like the year of my dad protests were happening like this and these are
00:52:40.720actual like photos and videos that exist that he was like actually very proud after the fact
00:52:46.440that he like overthrew the ukrainian government and started this like cycle of civil war
00:52:51.880or but all this was like immediately right there in bill browner's book red notice which like he
00:53:01.920massages a lot but he's very explicit about like how many how many israeli and jewish figures he
00:53:07.260has has around him they're like doing all this russian oligarchs stuff like plundering the
00:53:13.100russian state they do all they were plundering russia then and then they switched to ukraine
00:53:19.740and the basically basically the question is okay so they're they're moving all this
00:53:29.400um money to your king which faction of jewish life is that is that the netanyahu faction of
00:53:36.380religious zionists or is that the international faction of labor zionists well which one is bill
00:53:43.040browder bill browder he was bragging about it his grandfather was the biggest communist in america
00:53:49.920and he wanted to be the biggest capitalist in russia he's the direct he's the direct grandson
00:53:55.540son of, oh, screw it, I'm going to look it up, I want to, actually, I think his grandfather
00:54:03.260might be, Earl Browder, Earl Browder was his direct grandfather, who was one of the
00:54:11.080most prominent communists in America, that these labor Zionists, these like, like communist
00:54:19.140Jews, are the faction that's, that's been most prominently laundering money through
00:54:25.340ukraine cream this international this internationalist faction that that represented by
00:54:34.200that if they're prominent in the u.s democratic party and as we know through anthony blanken's
00:54:41.960actions through biden tried to have netanyahu overthrown and and this
00:54:50.120it this is so like putting the pieces together putting them all together and like looking at what
00:54:57.540what isn't there so uk is desperately desperately desperately pushing like expedited war in
00:55:07.180in russia in ukraine escalating it uh the last ukrainian then maybe to the last brit as well
00:55:15.780well and we know that the british state is heavily heavily heavily blackmailed
00:55:22.900by by the epstein blackmail that they have prince andrew they probably have prince charles that's
00:55:30.900what i've seen on several lists um there's a photo of like gislaine maxwell and jeffrey epstein
00:55:38.140on a porch of like a cabin which like would not be significant would be nondescript except
00:55:45.680there's also a photo of queen elizabeth sitting on a on the porch of a cabin that looks the exact
00:55:51.280same same if you look at the individual logs of this log cabin uh the tree rings the tree knots
00:56:00.140exactly line up between the two two photos so basically we know that the that gizl gizlay
00:56:07.820maxwell and jeffrey epstein vacationed at one point at the private cabin of the royal family
00:56:15.000like that's how insinuated into this they were were so we know the british straight state the
00:56:24.520british state is that heavily blackmailed failed by the epstein list and they're pushing hards for
00:56:31.480war new free trump seems to have purposely torpedoed the negotiations with zelinski uh
00:56:39.380Zelensky seems to have been like actually coached by the theory I saw was Boris Johnson had just
00:56:46.900spoken to Zelensky, and apparently he coached him on how to embarrass Trump. This is the theory
00:56:52.000that I saw. So again, the British state trying to exercise this influence to escalate the war.
00:56:59.480Trump seemingly has is like trying to cut off Zelensky and trying to end the war
00:57:05.440ukraine so that implies to me which i think is very tidy that the internationalist labor zion
00:57:14.540zionists are like we'll just we'll just call them jewish financiers or like uh
00:57:21.260the the communist jewish mafia they're the ones laundering mass amounts of money through ukraine
00:57:28.720and seemingly seemingly netanyahu does not care like seemingly netanyahu it has not hurt his
00:57:40.420relationship with trump at all that trump wants to end the war the war in ukraine indeed like
00:57:47.940trump has been doubling down on gaza even as he's been like trying to end end the war in ukraine
00:57:53.580and have detente with Putin, that Zelensky either has no attachments to Ukraine, his
00:58:01.960faction of religious scientists don't, or they see, or even more so, he sees that like
00:58:08.620this kind of post-Soviet communist Jewish faction that's been like running the,
00:58:16.700that's been laundering money out of out of ukraine and through eastern europe he sees them as
00:58:24.360his enemy who like tried to have him overthrown and that strikes me as like the core of the
00:58:31.220power struggle and the tent of the question is is okay well who like controls the blackmail
00:58:39.620And it seems like it seems all of them have have like records of it because there's no way basically that this black male isn't sitting in Mossad headquarters where Mossad hasn't overthrown Netanyahu.
00:58:55.620netanyahu so like largely they're bound to answer to answer to him to some extent and he seems
00:59:07.060they seem to be loyal to him as far as i can tell israeli state the international was calm as zionist
00:59:15.240they have something on the british state that the brits are going this far the british state and
00:59:22.520the europeans were generally that they're going that far to the wall to try and keep the war in
00:59:26.780ukraine going and and presumably trump and the cia and them like all those records all those like
00:59:36.160piles of cds which we have photos of the piles of cds that they pulled out out of um
00:59:42.680out of epstein's house that he had recording devices everywhere that he had all stored on
00:59:51.640like physical media that they were covered covered that's all sitting somewhere in fbi or cia cia
00:59:59.140so so it's like singly um a mexican standoff and the where they all have the blackmail yet
01:04:38.860um the cold war and and weimar and the soviet union and like really cheap choose power like
01:04:50.340like once the state of israel forms and you have this like three-way uh semi-connected
01:04:58.800connected states that um a lot of these like jewish mafia type groups can move between of the
01:05:05.760u.s israel and and the soviet union where they for their influence like only ever declined
01:05:15.480like uh which is an interesting story that i need to read 200 years together to get to the bottom
01:05:22.860of of just like how they were so prominent in the early revolution and how they their influence
01:05:30.200declined to again russia right now has like fewer than 50 000 jews jews in the total population
01:05:37.480that like honestly that's part of the i suspect that's a big part of why uh the u.s right now
01:05:47.580is like has such animosity with with russia because um because russia a is like can't even
01:05:57.940really be like manipulated or or like influenced or like have much of a video exercised over it by
01:06:07.340like any of these like zionist or communist networks because there just isn't the jewish
01:06:15.060population there to do it but at the same time like um like they have all this experience with
01:06:23.180them um uh Vladimir Putin uh this is a known thing in Russia but um most of my American listeners
01:06:33.400will be shocked here Vladimir Putin is a massive massive fan of Solzhenitsyn and yeah uh which is
01:06:43.680like I'm certain this will be like funny or like like like kind of rack the brain of people that's
01:06:52.440So the two people who are obsessed with Solzhenitsyn are Vladimir Putin and Jordan Peterson. But no, Putin, despite having been a KGB officer, identified like very strongly with Solzhenitsyn's work has like read Gulag Archipelio and like most Russians, Russians has read 200 years together, which is Alexander Solzhenitsyn's history of
01:07:22.440um the russians and jewish people people and if you listen to the tucker carlson interview
01:07:31.220you uh you can actually see the outlines in his long description where he's just like
01:07:38.040very prominently and like winkingly glossing over like the history of the khazars
01:07:43.420and like their involvement in the kiev and ruse because he's telling this long elaborate story
01:07:48.280and you're like and it's like what's the point what's the point but the american audience is
01:07:54.280like not getting that he's very prominently and like like anyone who knows the story can't help
01:08:01.080but notice that he's leaving out the entire story of the is the kazar karnate the kazaris uh their
01:08:09.480conversion to judaism and like the history of judaism and the reason region which is like
01:08:14.900it's like if you told a story of france but just prominently never mentioned germany
01:08:19.500like they're that prominent in that that region like uh they were a regional power for like long
01:08:27.060time and were like one of the most prominent people like like if i told you the story of
01:08:31.220france in the 20th century and i just never mentioned germany it would like scream at you
01:08:36.140and apparently that's like everyone in russia who watched the interview
01:19:01.580Like, the British state is not stable, and it's very likely that if it starts sliding, that, like, destabilizes the rest of the chessboard as well.
01:19:13.980And, of course, like, Trump, Elon, and Vance, and all of them are, like, greatly upsetting the flows of money around all these networks.
01:19:30.920Like, ending the Ukraine war, cutting USAID, is like an existential threat to all these factions.
01:19:41.300Well, yeah, Biden was a conduit and a recipient, Biden and Hunter, of Ukraine money.
01:19:49.020And the United States government estimates that the Biden family took $6 million just from Ukraine when Hunter was there and Biden was the vice president.
01:20:00.920had but you can't remember that they were totally on the take
01:20:04.360they're totally on the take uh they're totally enabling like horrible shit but yeah i remember
01:20:10.800that like like the power of all these political factions depend on like this mass of um
01:20:18.080this bureaucratic ngo class acting as their foot soldiers soldiers and like oh yeah yeah
01:20:26.580They hide their people in, like, no-show jobs where they collect, like, 100, 200K a year to, like, do nothing at an institute.
01:20:39.480This is—never trust anyone who works at a think tank.
01:27:27.120they keep getting the money flowing and
01:27:29.440But if he's not bringing the money, or especially if he's perceived to have, like, screwed it up, like, they're going to get rid of him at many points.
01:33:06.380uh you were to you're suggesting uh he flee to england which i don't think he would because um
01:33:15.440basically england is very easy for it's better than france but it's very easy for like
01:33:25.180his would-be enemies in ukraine to to smuggle whatever they want there like um if he fled to
01:33:34.700england it's it'd be very easy for lay even something as crazy as like a javelin launcher
01:33:42.200system he's he's just in his mansion are like london penthouse apartment and a top attack
01:33:49.660javelin missile comes through his window like uh it's it's controversial it's debated but supposedly
01:33:57.260putin assassinated a russian journalist who got who fled to england with you know some sort of
01:34:04.280nuclear poison yeah polonium uh yeah so maybe he wouldn't be safe there but he has connections
01:34:12.040there he's in he's he's he was hiding money there laundering money there so that's why i put england
01:34:17.780forward but the thing is there's any sort of power struggle in ukraine after the war ends
01:34:24.240zelinski would probably be taken out for a number of reasons i mean as far as i can tell
01:34:29.740a lot of the fighters in ukraine want to keep fighting yeah so the fighters in ukraine um
01:34:39.280the ones who want to keep fighting aren't fighting so like uh when you see like people
01:34:47.780being dragged off the street and used as like hand fodder and stuff whose life expectancy is like
01:34:54.520you know hours on the front line like those people are actually at the front like in the trenches
01:35:00.600like eating russian artillery the um the people who like are in a position to exert pressure to
01:35:09.540keep fighting like um those are the recruiters those are like like special units who are being
01:35:16.420used now now and have been getting used first sometime like the euphrenian standing up army
01:35:24.540modern warfare um even if it the worst ukrainian numbers i've seen are true like they're still a
01:35:33.720large number of like maybe even like almost certainly a majority of the ukrainians have
01:35:40.720been called up who are still intact unwounded and are like in various like reserve and other
01:35:49.720positions being cycled around but um but uh ukraine is basically on the
01:36:00.300from what i've seen it's like quickly reaching the snowballing tipping point where like russian
01:36:08.780And if you follow any of the, like, war casters who do, like, daily or semi-daily updates, the amount of territory the Russians are taking have, like, turned from, like, one to two fields in a day to, like, large segments of cities.
01:36:27.020um uh it's gotten to the point where when russia moves into a city um instead of it being like
01:36:36.080block by block clearing like um what you would have seen like six months ago a year
01:36:41.640year ago where you could see day by day like the line very detailly move and them having to
01:36:48.480geolocate that these straits belong to the russians these straits belong to the ukrainians
01:36:54.480now the russians move into a village or town and and this massive gray area opens up on the map
01:37:03.280where the russians were geolocated here in the town down and the ukrainians do not have the men
01:37:11.960to actually hold the town so they're somewhere else in the town like over here they've been
01:37:16.500geolocated here but basically they can't fight over the individual territory of the town
01:37:23.840the russians move in and increase this massive like no man's man land of neutral space where
01:37:29.920where the buildings entire city blocks are are just like being abandoned and the russians have
01:37:38.180to like clear up the traps and stuff but it's not they're being fought over all the way because
01:37:43.660the ukrainians don't have the men to to hold these these towns and territories the russians are able
01:37:50.460to um the russians are able to take it largely without an infantry fight their positions like
01:37:59.760they can't advance quickly because um artillery and like drones are still seeking them out but
01:38:08.940as soon as they move into an urban area they the only thing that's really stopping them is the
01:38:14.340traps like that's what's slowing them down the piece at which they're taking territory has just
01:38:19.560been accelerating so there's probably going to come a point where the ukrainian front front
01:38:25.560collapses starts falling back really rapidly and that's uh that could be in the next month that
01:38:35.760could be by by the summer but it's pretty dramatic right right now um selensky
01:38:44.160he does have a massive mansion in florida somewhere but um that i didn't know yeah and
01:38:53.140he has a multi-billion dollar mansion apparently it's actually like relatively i heard it was
01:38:58.340relatively close to trump's but that might have been like uh uh a a joker reference or something
01:39:05.560something but um now i'm not sure he would want to play to the u.s that uh it's like not guaranteed
01:39:14.140that the american like intel agencies and stuff will be in a position much longer to like
01:39:21.280secure him or like he might just be treated as a private citizen he might not get like tons of
01:39:28.160security put on him which like again the u.s is like what you know the ukrainians aren't going to
01:39:35.720be able to swivel a javelin missile or from the u.s but like in the u.s you can just go out and buy
01:47:45.180The, the interesting thing is, so for long a time, I was predicting this and like, what if Althist was predicting this and tons of commentators were predicting a civil war in the US that, that the 24 election, 24 election would be like fortified or, or like flows in such a way that would be inclusive.
01:48:15.180of like 2020 and that this would spiral and we come really close to something like that happening
01:48:21.280um if if Kamala Harris had not been the worst candidate in U.S. history or Joe Biden had been
01:48:29.180like merely as bad as he was in 2020 or Trump had been assassinated like there's a very good chance
01:48:37.220we have like 2020 all over again between between november and confirmation and like something
01:48:46.040happened happens in there or if trump in the shot like that escalates very quickly to tons of
01:48:52.240instability in the u.s immediately delegitimizes u.s government for decades after after but instead
01:49:01.000Instead, what it's looking like now is that the U.S., barring something completely insane, which, like, doesn't look like it'll happen, it looks like there's a fair bit of redundancy.
01:49:15.560Like, even if Trump is assassinated, there's Vance, and Vance is not going to be, like, pried away from Musk.
01:49:23.080And their interests are very tightly aligned right now that you can't really divert that train.
01:49:32.940So what it's looking like instead is that the kind of global instability that was centered on the U.S. is now centered on Europe and the Commonwealth.
01:49:45.560Tariffs just went on candidates today, and already apparently there are delegations from Alberta going to D.C.
01:49:57.400without the explicit endorsement of the Alberta government to advocate Alberta joining the U.S.
01:50:05.000That, like, Canada's existence is kind of falling apart before our eyes, and several European countries now look, like, highly, highly unstable.
01:50:15.560So, the current prospect is that the U.S. Civil War has been diverted into a wire-like American satrapy instability that the U.S. Civil War will play out in Europe and the Commonwealth countries now.
01:50:40.040yeah i don't know too much about canada but i think trump's
01:50:50.380reign is going to be pretty much uncontested at this point but uh so look man you you have a
01:50:59.720really good understanding of the dynamics of ukraine israel russia and the united states uh
01:51:06.940A lot of the stuff you talked about, I cover in an episode about Biden corruption, Democrat corruption in the Ukraine.
01:51:15.160And, you know, they were facilitating, the Democrats were facilitating illegal operations in the United States laundering money.
01:51:25.640But I did want to talk about Luigi Mangione.
01:51:29.100You said there was a transition point earlier that we hit on.
01:51:33.740I'm not sure where you wanted to go with that or how you want to transition to that.
01:51:39.300So you wrote a piece that I found wonderfully interesting on the kind of morality of Luigi
01:51:49.400Maggioni's actions and the reaction to them.
01:51:52.540And I recently, I'm not sure if you saw it or not, I wrote a piece on the actual logistics
01:52:10.860uh my listeners if you listen to the previous two podcasts one was paywall but if you listen
01:52:18.220to the episode on on heat with um hypo zamata uh we talk a fair bit about luigi mangioni and
01:52:29.240And, of course, I wrote this incredibly, wonderfully long, detailed breakdown of exactly what it takes to perform a proper urban infiltration, exfiltration,
01:52:42.840what the nature of evidence is in the modern urban girl kind of combat zone how what you have
01:52:51.640to do to defeat to defeat um uh police camera nets and facial recognition technology and
01:53:00.860the modern electronic emissions uh surveillance systems that are constantly tracking your phones
01:53:07.160and um actually your laptops um this was revealed in wikipedia vault seven which i should go back
01:53:12.600can add to the piece that um if you have a laptop that is on and is in like your knapsack
01:53:19.540uh the nsa this was i'm not sure this might be a more targeting capability that i can't really do
01:53:29.880it for every everyone everywhere but the nsa if it will this was revealed in like 2017
01:53:36.780can track where your laptop is by just the random wi-fi networks that pings so you look at your
01:53:47.300your laptop it's picking up um the wi-fi networks around around you it's pinging those wi-fi networks
01:53:55.460to get their credentials so that you can see their name that like even though you haven't
01:54:00.080entered a passcode there's a little handshake that the computer systems do that your computer
01:54:07.820does with the wi-fi networks the nsa can track your individual laptop um identifying number
01:54:15.540and mac address by that so like you can be walking down the street and it can see you
01:54:21.200pinging every wi-fi network on on the street if you your like laptop is on or you haven't turned
01:57:02.380They believe in aristocratic violence.
01:57:04.240But all I see out of those people, because it is like a certain contingent of people that tweet that kind of stuff,
01:57:12.580uh when real violence happens they're like completely shocked and horrified and denounce it
01:57:18.260you know and october 7th was an example of this and luigi luigi mangione is an example of this like
01:57:25.440supposedly i'm a warrior who honors you know mishima and i'm a arian step nomad who who wants
01:57:34.180to hearken back to the ancient days when men were men and they took matters into their own hands
01:57:38.520But then whenever they see people doing it every time they say, no, not like that. So that's why I wrote the article about Luigi Mangione was to say that, like, we should be behind this in the same way that we're behind Daniel Penny and who else? Derek Chauvin. Right.
01:57:57.380Because these people were, like, protecting white people from people who want to do harm to them.
01:58:09.720He eliminated a massive threat to the white middle class.
01:58:13.880He eliminated an agent of the regime who was using their larcenous communist policy because Obamacare is really just a wealth transfer.
01:58:26.340And it's not a wealth transfer from the rich to the poor. No poor person is like getting wealthy or sharing or enjoying the riches that are being transferred to them by the middle class who pay for their health care.
01:58:51.620How many of them are welfare recipients who don't work, who are now getting free health care for no reason that we pay for?
01:58:58.020It's a wealth transfer from the middle class to the private insurance companies.
01:59:01.960And Brian Johnson was the most effective actor in the private sector of finding ways to siphon that money from Obamacare that was taken by Obamacare from the middle class and finding ways to siphon all that into the pockets of private insurance and shareholders.
01:59:23.400It was the company that made the most money off of the Obamacare reforms, which all of us right wingers, quote unquote, are supposed to be against.
01:59:33.460You know, so I the reason why I said I was against violence is because like my position on Luigi Mangione isn't that like we should all be like picking up pitchforks and and and and torches and going to the houses of these CEOs and taking these people out.
01:59:53.400What we need to do is have policy change to eliminate Obamacare.
01:59:59.040But the problem with this situation is there is no one anywhere on the political scene who wants to redact Obamacare.
02:00:08.840I mean, the Republicans from back then when Obamacare got put in paid a lot of lip service to it.
02:00:15.580And they did try to block it and they did try to stop it, but they didn't really offer any alternative.
02:00:20.400And the Dems pretty much rammed it through.
02:00:22.460And the only reason it got through is because it was rewritten by the private insurance companies to make sure that it was profitable for them.
02:00:34.020And there was a CEO from UnitedHealth who worked in, I think it was the HHS, under Trump.
02:00:45.200uh so they're they're this revolving door of private medical you know private insurance
02:00:51.180private pharmaceutical that was happening during the first trump administration and trump maybe
02:00:56.700he tried i don't know of any instance in which he really tried to redact uh obamacare or dismantle
02:01:04.580it or change it uh but it was one of the major instances that made the quality of life for
02:01:13.260people like me who's upper middle class go down because I I'm getting worse medical care now and
02:01:20.360I'm paying more money for it and that's what's happening to millions and millions of people
02:01:24.740and uh for some reason the online right tried to turn this into a leftist issue and say supporting
02:01:32.320this was you know not a right-wing position which I completely completely disagree with
02:01:39.200and that's what my essay was about you talked a lot about like the tactics of it but the thing
02:01:45.980is is like i don't really know what was going on with luigi and i don't want to spend any time with
02:01:51.640you talking about the conspiracy theories because they're they're unsubstantiated and you even kind
02:01:58.260of like say this in your essay like it's questionable the story is definitely questionable
02:02:03.920The narrative is questionable, but like it's too speculative to get into it.
02:02:10.480But if you and this is where your essay is very, very helpful, if you sort of parse out the actions that he took and follow it step by step, this guy like kind of didn't know what he was doing.
02:02:24.380My perspective on it is that the only thing he had planned out was killing the CEO and then the getaway thing with like he didn't really have the getaway planned out.
02:02:33.620And I think it like took all the wind out of him, like killing him was like it took all his energy to do that.
02:17:18.360This is a company that was using AI to fraudulently deny the claims of people they knew qualified for them in the hopes that they would, like, die in the interim or would, like, fail to appeal and contest it.
02:17:34.920Yeah, and they're using their money and influence to legally get out of providing a service that they've already been paid for.
02:17:44.940They've already collected the money for the service.
02:17:47.100So all these, like, right-wing libertarians, so all these people who, like, use libertarian arguments or talk about the free market, you know, you should be able to do what you want in the free market, barring force or fraud.
02:18:00.440Like, as long as someone isn't committing force or fraud against you.
02:18:03.280this is fraud it is fraud in force by the force of like like a tyrannical law but this is very
02:18:13.560consciously fraud on brian thompson's part which on basic like libertarian concern conservative
02:18:24.300or capitalist theory as soon as like force or fraud is used the end shoot the non-aggression
02:18:29.480principle no longer applies you're no longer protected by the non-aggression principle you're
02:18:33.800committing a crime against people and they're entitled to to self-defense against you it like
02:18:41.740if i yeah well you were in the middle of the desert and like i'm i cheat you in a game of
02:18:48.840charge or i promise to do something for you in exchange for money and i don't do it it's not
02:18:54.060Which is, oh, you tricked me fair and square.
02:24:41.040And, you know, the thing that makes this a left wing, right wing issue, it's not even about the killing, even though that's what like the right wingers who are supposedly like, you know.
02:24:55.480All of a sudden, they want to say like, oh, the issue is like violence, like we're opposed to this violence, even though I considered it an act of self-defense.
02:25:05.820I consider this to be an act of self-defense.
02:25:08.860I don't consider it to be an act of anarchic violence.
02:25:12.540I'm of a position that I think it's inevitable that violence will break out when people are put in a hopeless situation because I agree with you about immigration.
02:25:21.140But the point I'm making about immigration is that at least it's on the docket.
02:25:26.220At least it's something that they're paying lip service to, and it's giving us hope for a way out.
02:25:35.560And the left-wing position is, yeah, good, Luigi Mangione, you should go and do that because we want universal health care.
02:25:44.640So get rid of the evil capitalist CEO of universal health care.
02:25:50.600We can have socialized medicine. That's not my position at all. I'm not left wing. I don't I don't condone this killing or I don't like not trying to argue that we should embrace this killing on the grounds that we need socialized medicine.
02:26:07.360No, we should have extremely high quality privatized medicine, which is not what this is. We should have a complete repeal of Obamacare and we should go back to the system we had before, at least, or make a better one, which is not.
02:26:53.780you know premium if you just get rid of the deductible because the deductible was introduced
02:27:00.380and you said you're Canadian so I don't even know if you know what any of this shit is I mean from
02:27:04.380reading about it you probably do but on top of the premium and on top of a co-pay you also have
02:27:11.020a deductible the deductible was added in after Obamacare it's directly because of Obamacare
02:27:17.240So my argument is just repeal Obamacare. Now, I want to say something else. I'm interested in your opinion on this, if you don't mind. I compared Luigi Mangione to all these other murderers, self-defense murderers, that the right has embraced.
02:27:41.180Derek Chauvin, not self-defense. He was upholding the law, but it was not a self-defense situation.
02:27:51.960Daniel Penny, not a self-defense situation. I'm very glad that they did what they did.
02:27:57.720I completely support them. The right wing completely supports them unambiguously.
02:28:03.660The cop who shot Michael Brown that kicked off the Ferguson rally. I forgot his name now,
02:28:08.160but it's in my essay it was not necessarily a self-defense situation exactly i mean michael
02:28:15.940brown was attacking him uh but it's only because he was pursuing him to arrest him he could have
02:28:23.680just let him go but he didn't which is fine i'm not saying he should have let him go the point is
02:28:29.420is it's not the same as the trayvon martin situation with uh with uh what's his name
02:28:35.420Zimmerman, right? The Zimmerman, uh, I forgot his first name, but, uh, uh, Zimmerman, the guy who
02:28:44.820killed Trayvon Martin, he's a special case compared to the other ones. He is also considered a hero by
02:28:50.360the right now was, uh, completely railroaded in court. Thank God he was off. He got let off.
02:29:00.700Thank God he won his court case because the media tried to demonize him.
02:29:05.960The left-wing lynch mob came for him, and I do not think he deserved to be put away for killing Trayvon Martin.
02:29:13.100But I also maintain that he is not a hero who should not be celebrated in the same way these other guys are.
02:29:23.300I think we should celebrate Daniel Penny in particular.
02:29:25.940uh kyle rittenhouse absolutely a fucking american hero unambiguously an american hero
02:29:33.120zimmerman on the other hand i think it's a little bit murkier and cloudier because uh you know one
02:29:42.040of the things the right wants to say about trayvon is like oh trayvon was and this is
02:29:46.560controversial people don't like that i say this but they say oh trayvon actually was a thug and
02:29:52.380he was a criminal, and he was, you know, used drugs, and he was a rapper, and he did all this
02:29:57.460shit, and he was just basically like a thug, right? Okay, sure, maybe he was. But Zimmerman was not
02:30:04.420initially in a self-defense situation. He created the self-defense situation. He went out of his way
02:30:12.440to accost this kid. It's not that he was innocent, but he went out of his way to confront him when,
02:30:20.200like he didn't have his wits about him he didn't know what the fuck he was doing he was not a
02:30:25.080killer himself he could not fight this guy he could not take this guy down he was not effective
02:30:30.280at what was what he was doing at all and nobody argues that he didn't have the wrong guy like he
02:30:35.760had the wrong guy like Trayvon Martin really actually did live there Trayvon Martin was found
02:30:41.840with like supposedly with contraband but he was not caught with like stolen goods like there is
02:30:47.800no proof that Trayvon Martin was the guy breaking into all these houses, right?
02:30:54.980So I think Zimmerman is kind of an idiot. Like, if I was in that situation, like, I would have
02:31:02.260handled myself better. I can say that definitively. Like, a lot of other people would have handled
02:31:07.580themselves way better, and they would not have got themselves with their life being threatened.
02:31:13.380It became a self-defense situation because of his poor decision-making, right?
02:31:20.300My point here with all of this is to say it's ridiculous to call this guy a hero and not Luigi Mangione.
02:31:30.740Because the guy Luigi Mangione killed was way worse than Trayvon Martin.
02:33:07.260And why are they disavowing Luigi Mangione?
02:33:10.440I could say that I am certain that the reason is because they like see Brian Johnson as like an emblem of somebody that they want to aspire to.
02:33:22.000Like they like this guy is like a success story to them, which he's not at all.
02:33:28.360the only reason why it's a success story is because he was better at fucking robbing the
02:33:33.120america but but he was better at harnessing uh uh larson larson larsonist communist law of the land
02:33:41.660was better at harnessing it to fucking make money for his company that's why he got promoted that's
02:33:48.000why he kept his job that's why he got bonuses i see him as a way bigger criminal than any of
02:33:55.160other guys he's a way bigger criminal than michael brown he's a way bigger criminal than
02:33:59.120trayvon martin ever was he's a way bigger criminal than fucking george floyd way worse than they could
02:34:06.720ever be these guys could have spent their entire lives as petty criminals they never ever would
02:34:14.620have equated as much harm as brian johnson is causing and not only that brian johnson was doing
02:34:22.400it with the full fucking support of the regime, the Leviathan that us right-wingers are supposedly
02:34:29.680so against. Oh, we hate the regime, but then we get mad when someone who's fucking doing the
02:34:36.840dirty work of the regime gets killed. All these black criminals were doing it despite the regime
02:34:43.620in the face of the regime. They were doing it against the regime. They, they, they ended up,
02:34:48.140some of them with the full endorsement of the regime, like George Floyd, but not until after
02:34:53.740he got killed. Like he was not being supported by the regime as a criminal. He was supported by the
02:35:00.240regime after he got killed and he got turned into a martyr. But Brian Johnson was supported by the
02:35:05.720regime as a criminal. His crimes were endorsed, encouraged and facilitated by the regime. So,
02:35:13.340you know i'm not i don't have you know i don't have a i don't have a sob story for trayvon martin
02:35:18.540like i don't but but to to to to mock and laugh at him being killed and trying to turn him into
02:35:26.400this major fucking criminal at the same time on the other side of your face you're saying brian
02:35:31.300johnson is like a bootstrap fucking porn fed grain operator grain elevator operator fucking
02:35:37.280midwestern american corn boy uh who didn't ever did anything wrong and that you should aspire to
02:35:43.560be a guy like him that that's a dead giveaway that's a dead giveaway that all you're endorsing
02:35:49.780is grifting off the fucking julie and the impotence of the american people which is really
02:35:56.820what some of these guys saying this shit that's the only reason why they're even right wing at
02:36:01.640all is to fucking get what they can make a killing off of the fucking credulity of of the
02:36:08.400simpletons who are mad about everything that's happening to them but don't really know how to
02:36:12.040fix it so they see themselves none of the arguments about brian thompson's like like supposed down
02:36:20.180down to earth uh normal working life life none of the arguments about brian
02:36:26.420brian brian thompson's like i think i like seeming
02:36:32.180the seeming like caragon-ness works at all on any level if you just sub up the photo of him
02:36:42.180in the sweater and with the chubby face with like a gavin newsome looking guy in a suit with slick
02:36:49.040back hair like the entire sentimentality around around thompson is entirely tied up with just like
02:36:58.160one photo of him him and none of those arguments work the second you picture him at all as what
02:37:08.200he was which it was the ceo the careerist ceo of one of the fortune five companies
02:51:12.440I like to think I would have done something differently.
02:51:14.580I'd like to think I would have been hiding out in a motel or I would have been on the
02:51:18.820move like in a different town every day, but who the fuck knows why he did what he did.
02:51:23.420But what I do want to say is that, uh, I could tell you that if there was a, a burglar on
02:51:29.360the loose in my neighborhood and I was doing patrols and I saw a suspicious guy, I would
02:51:34.460follow him from my car I would call the police and I would follow him from my car and I would
02:51:39.840if I had to engage him I would engage him in my car and if I did get out of my car for some reason
02:51:44.720because I dude I've I've been in confrontations with people on the street somehow Zimmerman lost
02:51:51.460sight of Trayvon Martin and had him circle back around on him and sneak up on him that's why I
02:51:57.340call him an idiot by the way because he put himself in that situation so you see i insist
02:52:05.540i firmly insist that in a free country you have the right to put yourself in any situation you
02:52:13.380want and that if someone else attempts to exercise violence on you you have an unlimited right to
02:52:21.100defend yourself against it there's not there's not a street in america or canada for that matter
02:52:28.160where you cannot stand wherever you like and if someone attempts to use violence against you
02:52:35.260use unlimited violence to offender yourself like i hope i hope it doesn't sound like i'm coming
02:52:42.300across as against that because i endorse that as well but i i fully believe in like freedom of
02:52:49.020Even freedom of navigation, like traveling about going through a supposedly controlled area and, like, functionally daring people to attack you because they might want to deny you that right to travel there.
02:53:12.960If it's your neighborhood and you think somebody's committing crimes in your neighborhood, yeah, you should confront them 100%.
02:53:19.200But you should know what you're doing.
02:53:21.380If it's a neighborhood across the country, if there's one street in the country where someone insists that, no, this public street, you can't travel here unjustly or unlawfully, I think it's a heroic act to go there and walk that street just daring them to come at you.
02:53:41.920because if it's your right, it's your right full stop
02:53:44.380and every right should be defended to the life.
02:53:47.580Yeah, but you're making the case for Trayvon Martin then,
03:14:02.980I love what you're saying, man. I see it a little bit differently. I do love what you're saying. But my thing is like, he's not a martyr. If he gets off scot-free, like Daniel Penny is not a martyr unless he goes to prison. He's not a martyr. He he got away with it. But Luigi Mangione is a martyr because he's probably going to go to prison for the rest of his life.
03:14:25.900I think I mean that's what I think is going to happen