00:06:04.560I have to, I have to start, stop burning out the audience I have on, on all my esoteric, insane takes on everything.
00:06:15.600And expand to more people that I can burn out.
00:06:18.260But you, Intronius is also one of the most important members of the AnarchonomCon community, both because you've been here, I think, almost every book club, but you also did the Misery March.
00:06:40.640uh for those of you listening who are unaware uh misery marches uh our concept that i started i
00:06:49.060by the time you're listening to this i might have a piece up on the misery march or uh
00:06:55.140or unpacking the misery march a deep reaping from it but uh but a misery marches were a concept i
00:07:04.000came up with that uh on hopefully the worst days of the years which we had a nice day so it wasn't
00:07:10.640as bad as it should have been uh we do a brutal force march through suburbia industrial parks
00:07:18.320and all the places that no normal hiker would ever go uh
00:07:24.400uh 30 kilometers from nowhere to back into the city uh we did nowhere to nowhere which was
00:07:33.380an interesting aesthetic choice but uh but after we got lost because a bridge was out
00:19:05.100and yeah he he there was a hair cell back then a few that did get copied in the 60s so you see
00:19:12.260this guy it's like like this guy in glasses with like uh with like uh with like with like
00:19:23.020san francisco hair is san francisco blonde hair is like walking around it's historically accurate
00:19:29.440But it's also, like, very purposely calling out the fact that these 60s hippie radicals, like, handing out drugs, were, like, just as perverse and just as much, like, waging, like, a psychological war against the health of their civilization as, like, these depraved witch hunters were.
00:19:53.560this image of a depraved witch hunter like this guy's corrupt by witch hunters understanders like
00:19:58.940a lot of the witch hunters like um this is a fun part of european history a lot of witch hunters
00:20:06.480like were completely sincere and actually like worked really hard to uh disprove witch cases
00:20:14.280like they'd be called in you know someone's accusing someone of being a witch and and they
00:20:22.320were like almost all the figures of this era were very much embarrassed by this like uh they're
00:20:28.640like this is the 1600s this is the era of like enlightenment like rationalism is kicking off
00:20:35.040this is high rationalism the era and like the enlightenment is kicking off and all
00:20:39.580and the renaissance has been going on for a hundred hundred years and all this has been
00:20:47.320continuing and and these are some of the most intelligent people have ever lived like
00:20:52.880like shakespeare is alive like in the height of like one of the witch hunting
00:20:58.740crazes um or like kind of looping around it it they coincide with wars but uh like this is
00:21:07.140the era when like the westphalian system is codified this is the era when um
00:21:12.400when so many scientific discoveries are being made
00:38:01.220Yes, exactly. He lives in one of the towers in one corner of a church, and he has this second-rate Grecian statue he keeps about and is obviously quite fond of.
00:38:19.580It looks like it could be the end of a D&D dungeon, you know? It looks like a wizard's tower.
00:38:29.080no the entire film looks incredible um for those of you if you look at look up the film
00:38:36.840like a lot of the shots like don't look real like uh the architecture uh is this weird like
00:38:43.620white stone like in very angular shapes that's like that doesn't look like a proper medieval
00:38:49.440castle castle that doesn't look like the 1600s however if you look up the architecture of like
00:38:55.620the last remnants of the ludon's fortifications like online uh there's a tower and there's a
00:39:01.780uh saint peter's uh church which which um they didn't shoot at it for the film but the church
00:39:10.560is specifically named in the film saint peter's church in ludon the actual architecture in the
00:39:16.860film look exactly like ludon looked in the 1600s like that's exactly what ludon looked like and
00:56:23.160Um, uh, so there is, like, an element of it that's a continuation of, like, pagan Roman institutions, so there were a lot of weird, um, like, priesthoods within, uh, pagan Rome.
00:56:39.420Julius Caesar was one of these priests, actually, and then, and he would have never been Julius Caesar except his, his clerisy was annulled or like he was kicked out of it in the midst of one of the earlier civil wars between Marius and Sulla, that it somehow got annulled.
00:57:01.100I can't remember how, but he was, like, had to wear a funny costume and, like, couldn't do this
00:57:07.820or couldn't do that. I can't recall if he specifically was prohibited to wed or if he,
00:57:14.200like, had to get married, marry someone in, like, a certain class because of it, but there were a
00:57:21.160lot of, like, weird little priesthoods like that within Rome that had these odd characters, and
00:57:27.160And most famously, they had the Vestal Virgins, which were women who were, like, had to remain
00:57:33.480virgins, and if they violated that, they'd get killed.
00:57:35.780If you violated a Vestal Virgin, you know, you'd get this horrifying, shameful punishment.
00:57:41.900But Rome had a lot of institutions like this that its various emperors are said to have
00:57:49.500slept with the Vestal Virgin, said that was, like, a great slander against emperor.
00:57:53.940but then you know these are a bunch of virginal women so and if you're the most powerful man of
00:57:59.400rome rome you might want to do that so there's speculation on that but um but generally the real
00:58:07.260function of the vessel virgins was uh they're kind of signed by lottery um caesar augustus
00:58:14.600expanded the vessel virgin specifically like uh as a whip to try and make roman citizens marry
00:58:22.440younger so that they and then have kids because the rome was having this demographic problem0.99
00:58:29.700of like actual like flesh and blood roman citizens weren't breeding as fast as they0.95
00:58:34.560were incorporating um a slaves and other people into the empire who were breeding faster than
00:58:40.460them you know story of today really story of the american and western empires that's like all these
00:58:47.960conquered and integrated people who are dependent on us are breeding faster than people who
00:58:52.460were actually producing useful stuff but uh this was a problem in rome and one of the ways
00:58:58.160counterintuitively that caesar gussis did was he expanded the order of um
00:59:04.500of women who had to remain virgins because he could say okay six months from now uh we're
00:59:11.900going to have the lottery and all these women are going to be be forced to become virgins for life0.96
00:59:17.860so you had six months to run out and get married or marry your daughter off as fast as possible0.80
00:59:24.020and you'd do this uh in time because otherwise you know people would sit around like competitively
00:59:30.400trying to uh to like get these girls better and better marriages or no i won't wed my daughter1.00
00:59:36.960until after i've achieved this station because then she'll get a better match and that will
00:59:41.900you know this hyper competitive upwards mobility that like is is cancer to uh to actually getting0.99
00:59:50.640people to wed and breed you know no one wants to no one wants to to wed and like have kids if they
01:00:00.460think that oh i'm gonna be richer in a few years in which case i'll get a better spouse you know
01:00:06.720or oh i shouldn't go on the dating apps now not thin enough uh i should i should go to the gym
01:00:14.660more and then and then once i've like gotten so fit at the gym then i'll go on the dating apps
01:00:20.800and then i'll really clean up you know you you see this dynamic today but so the vessel virgins
01:00:26.540a lot of these virginal orders uh a lot of these chasers were um ways to apply pressure to make
01:00:34.120people wed faster because, you know, the order of monks would get you if you didn't move fast
01:00:40.300enough. But a lot of these have like weird cultural inheritances that vary a lot from
01:00:48.240people to people. I often think that the reason Protestantism happened is because like
01:00:56.340uh germanic uh civilization uh did not really did not accept the um the sex selection effects
01:01:08.020of like monasteries and nunneries and stuff that uh like if you look at the kind of people that
01:01:15.620um germanic human sacrifice rituals were selecting for before the christian era you know
01:01:22.540They'd have these rituals where they'd have a human sacrifice of, like, slave girls who'd volunteer, like, really wanton women.
01:01:30.680Women are, like, women who'd be tempted by, like, drugs and an orgy into sacrificing themselves.0.77
01:01:38.200um tassily selecting for like incredibly willful uh long time horizon with men and women who um0.67
01:01:49.100who would be like kind of frigid and like uh would value like abstraction and like arts and like uh
01:01:59.320like a lot of mannish pursuits over like forming family over immediately forming family or like1.00
01:02:07.020romantic uh pursuits you know if you think of the the frigid mannish germanic woman who has like a0.76
01:02:15.100weird autistic interest and you have to like really really pursue really hard to get anything0.90
01:02:21.520like romantic out of her but then she falls in love like in love like very deeply and is attached0.99
01:02:27.380to you forever like that's that's like that brunhilde type is exactly what germanic pagan0.74
01:02:35.000human sacrifice rituals and other rituals and like incentives we're slacking for and if you0.91
01:02:40.500think of um if you think of what a nunnery does right it takes every woman it takes women who
01:02:49.420the value abstraction value education value delayed gratification uh you know have like0.95
01:02:57.080more interest in the world and mannish pursuits you know the women who aren't just like uh
01:03:02.780you know boy crazy and just want to get married as fast as possible1.00
01:03:08.200it selects those women out of the gene pool entirely like uh if you're like oh i could0.62
01:03:15.280i could get married or i could pursue like like an autistic interest or education or like
01:03:22.620this spiritual higher calling what does what does uh kefalsem do if you have like a large0.68
01:03:29.500uh contingents of nuns well takes those women who like temporarily uh are not interested in0.96
01:03:38.440romance or are like interested in like pursuing something else or like like all these things that0.99
01:03:43.780like a free a free northern people like really value and it removes them from the gene pool
01:03:51.500entirely so only so like you only have uh giddy schoolgirls and like um really like sexually0.90
01:04:00.860licentious women breeding which uh this is where there's the stereotype around the catholic school1.00
01:04:06.400girl it's because well any catholic schoolgirls like being very wanton or being very very easy1.00
01:04:14.440or very slutty or like really going boy crazy and it's because well if you're catholic0.98
01:04:20.380and a girl and you get and you weren't boy crazy and you weren't like very easy and very0.99
01:04:27.680and very licentious like uh there was a good chance you'd wind up a nun and you'd be like
01:04:34.440oh maybe i will pursue a higher spiritual calling or whatnot it's like bam select it out of the
01:04:39.800gene pool and so like if you if you want to think of like what catholicism does uh catholicism is0.69
01:04:50.200a slow-moving genocide of autistic people like that's what catholicism exists to do it0.76
01:04:56.600like like if you look at sex sacrifice rituals which is this like long you know because a nun1.00
01:05:05.000or a monastery is a human sacrifice ritual it's just the sacrifices they live out their life
01:05:10.040in like this single sex explosion in which they never breed and they like pre-commit to never
01:05:16.400breeding and stuff uh catholicism is a selection process to get rid of germanic autism
01:05:23.820and like you can see this like stark cultural division between catholic countries and protestant
01:05:31.820countries that the protestant countries are incredibly like ruthlessly autistic
01:05:36.800and like uh very obsessed with like abstractions and like uh rational principles and you know0.97
01:05:46.640technical matters and engineering pursuing warfare whereas catholic countries are like
01:05:51.420like these hot-blooded uh places of like like lusty women and like men with lots of machismo
01:06:00.400and i think that's why and that's not the that's not the original purpose of the institution the
01:06:08.700original purposes of the institution like evolved in rome and then developed and developed and
01:06:14.480developed and developed and like uh but but if you look at like what kephalism is actually
01:06:21.780doing throughout the medieval and renaissance period and like into the modern day like that's0.97
01:06:29.100really what it's doing is it's slacking out
01:13:45.540or they're never in a position to walk it back again.
01:13:47.480and so from that like initial moment of force when they accept like they're on the compliance ladder
01:13:54.560and like slowly we see we see it do this uh this uh this order of nuns that was like
01:14:06.080genuinely faithful if like a little school girlish like uh in some some of their behaviors
01:14:13.240like they had pranks and stuff um we see that devolve into like uh like them some of them
01:14:21.400actually like like uh there's a lot of people who if they start acting mad will actually go mad
01:14:27.740like uh a lot of people do not have like very tight senses of self like like uh the most rational
01:14:34.860autists do you know like these these hyper rational like very male brain minds like most
01:14:41.660people are not like that most people if they start acting acting crazy they'll slowly start to
01:14:47.320to actually behave to be crazy yeah you become what you are if you act licentiously pretty soon0.96
01:14:54.740you'll just be like licentious you know if you either all of like someone who's retarded pretty0.95
01:15:00.780soon you'll be a lot because before you become what you want people yes i i i have to make a0.99
01:15:10.840No, I said the R word because now, now we might want to put this on YouTube, but, uh,0.60
01:15:20.700the, but like, uh, the, the act of enacting it makes it so eminior in most respects.0.97
01:15:30.140And this is where, uh, so you see this nunnery that like was faithful.
01:15:36.260It was never visited, like, had no demonic possessions aside from, like, this one Mother Superior having, like, very, like, reasonably tame visions of, like, Father Grandier, which she interprets darkly.
01:15:52.160uh you see it devolve into a brothel and complete madhouse like consciously guided by this witch0.51
01:16:00.180witch hunter and the rest because if they behave poorly and demonically possess and licentiously1.00
01:16:07.440they get rewarded you know you have all this license like these nuns start sort of start1.00
01:16:15.440behaving like obscenely sexually or like start start of like uh like behaving like they're in1.00
01:16:24.020a brothel or or start interacting with each other in these obscene ways and you see how
01:16:30.740how the force of this institution is punishing virtue and rewarding
01:16:36.860rewarding licentiousness and how they play they're like basically play acting this and
01:16:45.440And you see, like, the few moments in the spell break,
01:16:48.880or, like, they don't know what they're supposed to do.
01:16:51.560And they're just all stunned and confused,
01:36:29.880that have not been seen or like were only like someone saw the clip once
01:36:37.980that they were forced to take out like it was originally supposed to be an nc-17 release and
01:36:43.080it is an nc-17 release at least entirely like like there is graphic nudity in in this um if
01:36:51.460you if you take uh your your significant other or date to this like make sure they're the type of
01:36:58.800person who's like likes horror cinema and likes graphic cinema because like like this is like an
01:37:07.380inverse doll curve movie of either like you're never going to date that person again or they're
01:37:12.640going to become obsessed with you after that like it's one or the other make sure to buy them a
01:37:17.120drink for the movie if you go to one of the cinemas that serves alcohol but uh but like it
01:37:23.760If you have a goth girl in your life who really likes scary movies and stuff and really likes witchy stuff and scandals and like a cult or a cult media or just media about cults or whatnot, like anything to do with like social contagion or social games and stuff, this is a very common type of girl.
01:38:18.740No, no, take the prudest, chaste, Catholic girl to this movie and see what happens.
01:38:25.980I mean, like, if it's right on the edge of, like, should I do this girl, should I not, you know, is this worth it, is it not, does she like me, does she not, you know.0.52
01:38:42.040This movie will decide in one way or the other.
01:38:44.480you know either she's gonna be like oh i want you to be my grandier or she's like1.00
01:38:49.280or she'll look at but then she'll be like you took me to what and be scandalized and storm out
01:38:56.280you know which dating is about efficiently sorting people people right dating is about
01:39:06.300yeah sorry no no i just remember i recently met up with you know
01:39:15.060a bit of the a bit of the chuddies you know uh but but there are also many of the the christians
01:39:22.600there and i and i me being a bit into biology let's say was describing uh how um what is it0.88
01:39:33.720how the gays get and she covered her ears and it was so funny because i used metaphor and i didn't
01:39:41.440go into detail at all but i wonder what will happen if they go to this movie
01:39:47.100i wonder if i have to censor censor that sentence from youtube oh we'll see what we'll see
01:39:57.340oh oh um if you're how they get hate yes exactly no we we shall see
01:40:07.100yes i made a very simple metaphor of locks and keys well go ahead i i will just leave a blank
01:40:17.520in the audio who knows how youtube works this will be interesting this will be fun we're gonna
01:40:22.640to learn things you and i do dear uh well i suppose if you're on youtube you might be a viewer
01:40:27.740uh i'm not probably be a still image and i don't know you guys can listen to this while work
01:40:34.840or something but i'm not sure when people consume podcasts via youtube that's always been the alien
01:40:41.760experience for me but uh but yeah so this oh last thing i want to leave you guys off with
01:40:49.380I wrote an entire article about this, but if you did not read the article, yet you listened to the entire podcast.
01:40:59.260This is the most historically accurate film.
01:41:03.800Like, everything, every decision in this film is controversial in some way.
01:41:08.880Like, every individual element, there's a historical debate about.
01:41:14.120But if you bring this film to someone in, like, 1650, and they're, like, a Protestant or of any other, like, denomination that hated Cardinal Richelieu, they would tell you 100% that this is exactly what happened and this is exactly who King Louis XIII was.
01:41:38.120was and they would tell you this is exactly louis the 13th louis the 12th maybe uh this is exactly
01:41:45.820who this king louis was they'll tell you this is exactly what happened to those poor people at
01:41:51.140ludol and this is why you have this is why you have to pray every night and keep your gun loaded1.00
01:41:56.900and be paranoid as can be because the catholics are going to get you like this is exactly what0.99