00:00:00.000I noticed that you said she's agnostic and not atheistic, which I think is a really important
00:00:06.740distinction. If she has the capacity to entertain belief in something higher than herself, I think
00:00:15.620that's a huge step in the right direction. We're living in an interesting time. In the days of our
00:00:22.160ancestors, there wasn't a conversion process. We're coming from a different place now. So I
00:00:26.440think the expectation that for her to just blindly devote herself to the gods, that's a big ask and
00:00:32.600usually not a very realistic one. What I think is really important is that she's provided with
00:00:38.020opportunities and encouragement to develop those relationships. And if she's open to it, that she
00:00:45.020is invited and encouraged to come along and attend different things with you at whatever level of
00:00:53.200participation she wants to have. First, establish that this isn't some spooky secret thing you do
00:01:00.620by yourself. This is something that she's welcome to be a part of. Secondly, I would say get her to
00:01:07.060a place where this is not scary to her. Getting her to see that it's nice people in the daylight
00:01:13.800doing something nice and positive and not scary is a big part of it too. And not being afraid
00:01:20.740to express your faith on associating good changes and good growth in your life to your
00:01:28.720Ausitru practice and expressing that in a way to where she associates your Ausitru practice with
00:01:36.660positive things. I think that goes a long way. So getting her to be open to the possibility
00:01:44.080And the more you can get her involved in processes where there's no expectation that she's pretending to be something she's not, because you can't fool the gods, you can't trick them.
00:01:56.740Oftentimes, if people don't initially have a sincere faith in the gods, one of the things that is easier to get them to be open to is the ancestors.
00:02:06.840In moments of quiet in their life, they will talk to the dead.
00:02:12.500They may not go through a big deal of lighting a candle and going before their altar, talk
00:02:17.740to their parents or their grandparents.