Battleground 116ļ¼ The Baby Die Off Comes From IsrealĀ To America, Pfiszer Docs Points to Miscarriage In Test Group; Erik Prince And The Hacking Of The MachinesĀ
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Dr. Naomi Wolf and Dr. Erick Prince join us in The War Room to talk about the new CDC guidance on vaccines and the new data on transmission of the deadly Ebola virus. They also discuss the latest in the fight against the spread of the pandemic, and what we can do about it.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon okay you're in the battleground it's uh monday 15 august year of
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2022 the anniversary of the one year of the disastrous pull-off from afghanistan that we
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handled in the last hour um we've got two massive races actually three tomorrow with cheney and
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wyoming uh and of course kelly chewbacca versus murkowski uh so it's hegeman versus cheney and
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and murkowski uh versus kelly chewbacca also sarah palin in the battleground what i want to do uh for
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this hour i've asked two of our more prominent contributors to really drill down on topics of
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interest we got to get in back of and it's dr naomi wolf everything to dealing with now the new
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cdc guidance the vaccines the mask philadelphia just instituted last week mass mandates for the
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kids for the first 10 days of school yet at the same time you've got universities around the the
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area saying you don't need to be you know boosted anymore it's just total chaos and so that's why i
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asked naomi who's been doing the tremendous or under amy kelly has been coordinating all this
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amazing research done by the war room posse so we want to get a full update second part of the show
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we're going to have eric prince eric has just returned from the hackers conference hacker con
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out in uh in vegas he's going to tell us everything in the run-up to the summit this weekend in
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missouri uh he's going to walk us through everything they're saying about being able to hack the machines
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and also other updates on cyber technology and cyber security let's go to dr naomi wolf
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naomi i don't think this entire time even in the early days of the pandemic i've seen more confusion
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more spin more i mean it's just you know the cdc says one thing get fda saying another these world
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bodies say one thing just where are we and everything maybe maybe i start with what should
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be the easiest one the mask in philadelphia why under and what what universe are they thinking
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of putting masks back on the kids to put them in school and do it i think for the first 10 days of
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the year it's so heartbreaking and so surreal i i can only imagine that at this point it's gestural
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um that you know the data are so in and so solid that masks don't help in terms of transmission
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um or make a very small difference and what they do effectively which we've discussed so much is
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hurt the development of children's speech and children's emotional uh perception of other faces
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so i feel like now it's it's like a fig leaf you know like all these people are being found out
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caught out emperor has no clothes and they're they're just like you know like kind of waving a
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handkerchief in front of a a crime scene in order to kind of distract people or say well we're not
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going to drop it all together surely it made some difference i i can't speculate i'd love to know what
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parents in philadelphia were told about why their kids had to have to wear masks for the first 10 days
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and then not presumably but um it it feels like the dying of an empire in which in which you know a
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priestly caste that no longer has anyone believing in them are still sending up you know incense and
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part of this is now the evidence is coming back on the vaccine particularly the vaccine among
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little kids children and also the fact that i think it's moderna's got 30 million or so many million
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uh tens of millions of unused that people just throughout the world are saying we're not doing
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this anymore we don't want to hear about boosts we want to hear about more boosts i think general austin
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was reported today got you know he's he's quintupled vaxxed he got covid for the second
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time i i realize now they're saying oh it doesn't do anything with transmission it only that uh it'll
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help you not go to icu uh so what what is the update on on on vaccines across the board and
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particularly cdc's new guidance which to me is very confusing because it doesn't make any
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differentiation at all between vax and unvax was this whole thing just a joke is that what cdc's saying
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i mean this can you imagine how i feel on this day steve i've literally been saying
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for a year and a half vaccines don't affect transmission there's no reason to have mandates
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there's no physical reason the manufacturers don't claim that vaccines affect transmission
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this is invented this this kind of mythology that vaccines affect transmission so you have to
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segregate people and fire people from their jobs and dismiss people from you know the air force
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academy and keep people from graduating at west point if they're unvaccinated and so now you know
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a year and a half later after countless people have had their livelihoods destroyed and i hear from
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these people every day countless people have had their health destroyed um the cdc's like oh
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you know oh sorry um no not even sorry like oh well it never mattered anyway don't treat vaccinated
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unvaccinated differently um it's honestly it's it's like the end of the wizard of oz i said this before
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like everything is revealed and and there is a tiny person slinking away i mean that's that's where we're
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at so they lied from the start um they should be held accountable for lying from the start all these
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people who have been fired for no reason you know have have causes of action or more but it's i mean
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i'm just seeing this edifice crumbling um because so many people have exposed their lies
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okay let's go to that what so it's cdc actually is that your interpretation or is that the interpretation
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they're putting out for people because you call them a priestly caste i don't understand how they can
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come forward this today and not think that from the airline pilots to the military uh personnel
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so the doctors nurses i mean it's stunning quite frankly you i don't really know what you could do
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for defamation the last two years and particularly as we got into the you know past the 2020 election
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and into 2021 you know people were adamantly sitting there going hey now we see science now we see
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evidence that you've rolled this out and you can't put these mandates up there how did cdc just come out
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did they put forward any evidence studies how did they just kind of drop this on everybody
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and here's the interesting thing you didn't see it carpet bombed on msnbc or cnn it wasn't like they
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were out there fauci wasn't doing the sunday shows in this it was kind of like oh by the way uh
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vaccine on vaccine we treat the same so in your mind how did they actually roll it out and how did
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they have the you know the audacity just to kind of slide it out there well they're you know they're
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very well positioned to um do sneaky things in terms of public health messaging because they have
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a compliant legacy media so as you say instead of if there if there were real journalists in america
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at the atlantic or at the new york times or at the wall street journal it would be a front page story
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what do you mean all that create a jim crow society out of thin air in the united states of america
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was for nothing um were you lying then are you lying now um but but it's crickets right and they
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just kind of put it out there and and have a compliant press but it is funny to see the cdc
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try to make a story to justify their um 180 degree uh reversal um that that shows that no one should
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have been discriminated against in the first place the spokesperson said something like that they make
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up this kind of fantasy about how viruses work right and how epidemiology works and how populations
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work so now they're like well we haven't changed our guidance science has evolved and everyone has
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herd immunity and a lot of people are vaccinated so it's okay to treat everyone the same as everyone
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else even if they're not vaccinated a lot of people have been infected already i mean it's just and
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no as you point out right no studies no data the cdc is very good at making pronouncements without
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linking any scientific peer-reviewed studies to their claims um it's just a it's just the guidance has
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been revised and unfortunately we in america who used to be a nation of independent-minded critical
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thinkers have been so bludgeoned uh ideologically and terrified and locked down um not this audience
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but you know a lot of people we know and love that people react to the guidance has changed as if that
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has some magical power uh but really they the cdc has come up with zero explanation scientifically for
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why they cause discrimination in the first place cause people to lose their businesses to lose their
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relationships to lose i mean i i get emails from people whose lives are completely ruined like an
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rn who didn't want to be injected you know had to give up his home he's living in a trailer in the
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middle of the desert with his family with no water because that's what they can afford now i mean that's
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what the cdc has done to the united states of america and now they're like oh sorry no reason but we're not
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answering questions before we go to your research which is and and how you're connecting dots which
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is pretty uh shocking and damning i just wanted to go back to the priestly cast is it just me
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or is it seem like tony fauci is now in the witness protection program he wasn't out front at all about when
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biden had it three times in a row or five times in a row i i really haven't seen i know he's been
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doing some podcasts but you haven't he's not rolled out like he used to be rolled out sunday shows
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everywhere prime time msmc cnn is he in the witness protection program and if he is why is the high
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priest why is all of a sudden the high priest somebody that you can't see anymore i mean yeah
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again exactly like the end of the wizard of oz it's the great and mighty oz but but what is he he's a a
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a man of lies i mean so many stories that we were told by his media apparatus um have fallen apart
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you know he swore that this virus came from a wet market in wuhan well that's fallen apart and even
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legacy media reports on the fact that it was engineered it would appear um and the scientific
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consensus is now that it was engineered um so much documentation of his conflicts of interest
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have emerged and i predicted these long ago just based on his behavior i predicted on fox i said we're
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going to find out he doesn't work for us he works for someone else and that turned out to be true
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um scientists getting royalties uh hundreds of thousands of dollars in royalties um in in a conflict
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um at the nih that has emerged so he's not looking good and and he is and now you know these these
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injections and i think your platform has made a difference um tucker carlson to his credit keeps
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reporting on these issues that has made a difference uh all of the dissident doctors dr malone dr alexander
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dr mccullough they've made a difference and certainly the the amazing pfizer research volunteers
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3500 of them now have made a difference word has gotten out um to your earlier question about the
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harms of these injections these mrna injections word has gotten out about the menstrual dysregulation
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problems that yours truly got deplatformed for breaking that important story um deplatformed from
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twitter um and word has gotten out about the heart damage and people are seeing that you know healthy
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young adults are dropping dead uh healthy people are having debilitating illnesses i just have a new
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substack up in which i assess uh the scale of the injuries and the damage um from the mrna injections
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and project them based on very conservative models and from government data and from um data from a german
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uh insurer so very solid data and i project forward that indeed hundreds of thousands of injuries um and
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and thousands of deaths can be attributed in the united states now to these mrna vaccines again super
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conservatively don't take my word for it look at my math look at my citations um this is a catastrophe
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and that that's on the level with if you take the most conservative estimates it's on the level of the
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people injured by stroke in the united states every year and if you take the more robust estimates it's
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at the level of people diagnosed with cancer in the united states every year so a massive public health
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crisis not due to the virus but now due to the vaccine so to your point about dr fauci um vaccine
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uptake is flat and it's two percent for children i think you are going to go to heaven really steve i mean
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may you live to be 120 as my grandmother would say but you know when it's time for you to show up and
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account for yourself um you really saved who knows millions of babies and small children from
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from harm and so did your your your your lips your lips to god's ear on that one let's go back though
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but i want to go yeah but i want to go but look we were just a platform you amy kelly your team amazing
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team at daily cloud in the war room volunteers walk through let's on that subset walk through the
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evidence that you compiled because i you're you're like uh miles and and uh and and steve cortez and
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other people i said hey just go back and look at the tracker of what they said the evidence they put
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forward and it all turns out to come true walk us through what your research and how has it led you
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to this point yeah well let me share um the the latest pfizer uh documents report because there's
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been news about that um you all may remember that i shared with you all last week or so that uh the
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america first legal oya freedom of information act request uh released 268 pages showing that the cdc
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had colluded with twitter and google and youtube and facebook to de-platform people including me
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for early on um breaking this very serious story about women having menstrual harms when they were
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injected well predictably and i've been screaming and yelling about this for over a year predictably
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that is going to result in harms to fertility and now the pfizer volunteers these 3500 experts
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have uh put up a new report about a 44 percent um spontaneous abortion or miscarriage rate
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in the pfizer documents and i will walk you through that report but before i do i will say that
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that was posted this morning on daily clout twitter which they hadn't bothered to ban yet and with
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immediately twitter banned daily clout from twitter and also locked our account
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hold on hang on stop go back to the top you guys did the research what did it show you put it out
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and they banned you immediately yeah they and they banned and locked our account like they're they're not
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scared enough yet obviously because you know i am suing twitter and they must know that but in the
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meantime they're racking up more damages by now having banned and uh and and i mean banned and locked
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daily clout's twitter account with thousands of followers and for a completely i mean when they call
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this misinformation my post-enlightenment head wants to explode because this is literally i'm not
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kidding this is literally and i had an expensive education right i went to yale i went to oxford i'm a
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road scholar this is how you're trained to make an argument this is primary source documentation it
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doesn't get better than that this is an internal set of documents released under court order these are
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pfizer's own documents right and they're they're analyzed by the most highly credentialed people and the
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links are right there so there is literally no way and i'm saying this to the judge in this case i hope
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he or she is watching there is no way this can be misinformation because it is literally information
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that is like um primary documentation it is it is the the the defendant's own documentation so now let's go
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to why they shut us down and i'm asking you to notice that this is a war on women steve and it's a war on
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babies and it's a war on other people too that we can discuss we've got an a new report about harms to
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um to men which are horrific which i'll get to if there's time but right now i want you to notice that
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twitter banned and the cdc banned an early discussion about dysregulating menstrual cycles which you need
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to have a healthy baby and now twitter banned a thoroughly documented report showing that
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almost half of the pregnant women in the pfizer internal trials lost their babies all right they're
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keeping this quiet they're keeping these harms quiet and in the meantime women are being told to
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this day by their pediatricians and by their um obstetricians uh it's safe and effective it won't
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harm your baby you know go ahead and take the injection go ahead and have the booster go ahead
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and have the second booster and and they're suppressing the fact that there were 22 dead babies
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in this one document out of these 55 000 documents in the pfizer trials and i can lift out an important
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paragraph from this critical um research if you are willing to hear it please please absolutely please
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so the the headline is pfizer misleadingly classified the 44 of pregnancies that ended in miscarriage and
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this is a direct quote from the report of pfizer adverse events document released by the fda so again
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like misinformation this is our government releasing this information under court order right
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process that this is this is your tax dollars paying for the release of this information
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reveals and this is on july 1st 2022 due to this court order right reveals chilling data showing 44
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percent of pregnant women participating in pfizer's mrna covid vaccine trial suffered miscarriages and
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there's the link all right a section of the document on page 3643 called listing of subjects reporting
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pregnancy after dose one shows that 50 women became pregnant during the internal trial however one must
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dig through the rest of the large document and this is why i worship and love these volunteers they are
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doing that right to learn that 22 of these 50 women who got pregnant suffered quote abortion spontaneous end
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quote quote abortion spontaneous complete end quote which means a miscarriage quote abortion
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spontaneous incomplete uh end quote or quote miscarriage so this means losing your baby when
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you don't want to it doesn't mean going to an abortionist it means you're gestating a perfectly
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normal healthy baby as far as anyone knows and you lose that baby the adverse events report cutoff date
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was march 13 2021 and this will blow your mind and the fda received the report from pfizer on april 1st 2021
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so guys that was i'm sorry but that was over a year ago i'm sorry to i know we're not supposed to cry
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in the war room but over a year ago the fta received this report that out of 50 pregnant women 22 of them lost
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their babies and they did not say anything thus the fda was aware of the horrifying rate of fetal death
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by the start of april 2021 and were silent and pfizer was silent they kept up their drumbeat of
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inject the pregnant women inject the pregnant women doesn't hurt your baby it doesn't hurt your baby
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and and now predictably as you and i have discussed in in my sub stack uh drawing on other pfizer reports
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called i'm sorry to announce a genocide there is the the scaled up evidence of this horrific
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cover-up this mengala type cover-up and i'm jewish i don't say that lightly if you if you extrapolate
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globally to all the pregnant women who are injected it explains it could explain what we're seeing now
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of a baby die-off 200 percent rise in neonatal deaths or spontaneous abortions and miscarriages
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in scotland sorry um 86 babies died in ontario when they usually have five or six and in israel a
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34 percent rise of spontaneous abortions and miscarriages to vaccinate versus unvaccinated
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so this this this tie this this ties back to the ontario to israel and i think you mentioned scotland i
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wasn't familiar i was very familiar with the israel and ontario and by the way what we want to do is
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have you back on tomorrow because i can take you a little past the segment but this is too too um
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meaningful and powerful in in the documents that you got and the team went through and particularly
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drilled down wouldn't they were supposed to turn over everything right all the email am i right when
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they send these documents over in this research they were also supposed to send over their emails
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in their conversations wouldn't it have occurred that someone inside of pfizer or the fda shouldn't
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there be some back and forth communication because someone had to have seen what was happening here and
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raise the red flag and say hey we've got a problem 44 of these women are spontaneous aborting uh maybe we
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ought to have a meeting maybe we want to get on a zoom call maybe we ought to have a chat right i can't
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believe i i do believe in seeing some of them there's some of them are the mengala guys the nazi
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doctors but i can't believe everybody is so so the question is technically did you get all of the
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internal emails from this around this topic or you just had these reports that you had to dig you had to
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burr in and dig out that yourself so steve no we don't have emails um the the foia was just for
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these um scientific documents so we don't see anyone talking to anyone about these documents
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although i'm sure uh you know i don't know why um the foia did not include uh all communications
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around it i can reach out to aaron series organization and ask but uh the experts that
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we have are literally just working with the internal scientific documents that then were all shared with
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the fda and that's something that should definitely be foia especially now that we see that the seat
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from the other foia that the cdc and twitter were communicating to to silence discussion about this
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um and i can talk to my lawyers uh scott street and john howard who are suing twitter and the cdc on my
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behalf to extend that and see if we can um include any communications that the fda had um about closing down
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discussion of this or or as you say someone at the fda because the fda is is is is are there
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transmission are there transmission documents in your possession in this you know the tens of thousands
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of pages that were supposed to be blocked for 75 years and now i think i know why there's no there's
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no transmission a thing of actually transmitting it to the fda or transmitted it to any of the priestly
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cast that's a good question i'll ask amy kelly the genius project director to search i haven't seen
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any and none of the volunteers have alerted me to any but we haven't done a specific search for like
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here's a cover letter saying my my my understanding is that there's still there's still a task force
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you know remember we're still under emergency we're still under emergency measures because by as you
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remember biden extended it you said this is a big problem um they still have a task force you would
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assume that information at this uh of this import would have gotten to the task force and if it
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didn't the question is why did i tell you what naomi hang on for just through the break we're gonna go
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through a break and i'm gonna hold you over i want to get a couple things cleared up and then set up
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for to have you back tomorrow because this is too um important okay naomi wolf on these incredible
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documentation that the team is going through and just what they're finding and now you see the cd
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saying hey no difference between vax and unvax might destroy your career as a pilot might have
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gotten you kicked out of the military might have not let you walked in the graduation ceremony at
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west point in the air force academy but hey no harm no foul or in this case maybe harm and foul
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short commercial break back with naomi wolf and eric prince in a moment
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okay welcome back naomi wolf uh is our guest dr naomi wolf about all the studies she's been doing
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and quite frankly completely blown our head up here uh what i want to do we don't know the time
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we're trying to work at her schedule but she will be back on the war room or in battleground sometime
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tomorrow we'll figure that out and then we'll put it up everywhere so people know this and naomi we
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haven't finished even with the woman's part yet because there's so many questions we've got to
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drill down and you've got a whole presentation on the on uh the the impact on men we'll make sure we
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get to that at least started i think this probably will be a daily for the next couple of days because
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we have to do this the cdc just comes out with this flippant you know oh there's no difference
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between vax and unvax and and then the philadelphia school oh what we're going to do is just mask the kids
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for 10 days it's just people are they're just this priestly cast they think they're off the hook
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and they're not off the hook and that's why it's so important what you're doing a daily cloud and
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what the war room posse is assisting you under the tutelage and guidance of amy kelly and now your
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lawyers um we got to bring the heat and it just shows you and for people say oh well you know the
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pandemic so she put out additional reporting to this morning and twitter automatically takes her down
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for disinformation they're up in your face they're up in your grill on this and it's not going to
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change until we start punching back it's just hey she puts the report up the study that's all footnoted
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it has you know all the data all the evidence and she can do the math but you can argue hey she got this
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wrong i don't believe in that part of the equation you took this and you extrapolated that's all part of
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the scientific process and the debate that should go on obviously on everything we're not saying what
00:31:39.020
naomi wolf puts up is holy writ but it's not to be taken down immediately by some grun dune at uh at
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twitter which obviously has the team on naomi wolf right because and like they have on mcculloch and
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like they have on malone like they have on all of them as disinformation as the as the the mark of
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cain disinformation naomi wolf yeah well i'm banned from twitter so they actually took down daily cloud
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and now have banned daily clouds so uh even the platform where these primary source documents are
00:32:13.600
being published has now no presence on twitter which means there's no way for the whole millions
00:32:19.380
of people on twitter to know what the threats and and harms are that are emerging in these reports
00:32:24.960
um and i guess always can we get can we have your other social media by the way you can tell your
00:32:32.020
parents a lot that that uh expensive education the yale oxford road scholar i guess twitter's telling
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you suck on that baby we don't care you put it doesn't matter it doesn't mean anything yeah um
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well yeah don't hold it yeah don't don't pull the don't pull the don't pull the credentials on me
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we're gonna we're gonna take daily clout down now and permanently ban you it's it's unbelievable
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it is this women will understand how tragic this is pfizer took those deaths of babies those
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spontaneous abortions and miscarriages and recategorized them as recovered resolved adverse
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effects in other words if you lost your baby it was categorized by pfizer as a resolved adverse
00:33:18.920
event like a headache that got better that's the last thing i want to share with the women of america
00:33:25.060
oh my god that's what that's what that's the orwell that hold a hold a slow down give me the orwell
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what did george orwell himself think that up for him but give me the orwellian term for for the
00:33:36.220
spontaneous abortions losing their babies what's it called okay so pfizer notes the miscarriages as
00:33:42.240
serious adverse events with moderate or severe toxicity ratings however all of them were recategorized
00:33:49.680
by pfizer in the internal documents under the category adverse events that were recovered or
00:33:57.280
resolved like you had a problem when you had a baby when you lost the baby you recovered from that
00:34:03.140
problem it resolved the adverse event the negative thing the miscarriage is like a is in the same
00:34:09.440
category as a headache that went away if you lost your baby pfizer said your adverse event was recovered
00:34:16.820
or resolved these are monsters well i'm very proud of all of our no you called it first we had the
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guy daniel horowitz wrote the book or this rise for that you called it a year and a half or two years
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ago he said these guys are like the nazi doctors this would be way before the holocaust he says it
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started with the doctors doctors were there eight years or seven or eight years before all that it starts
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with that and i'm telling you called it out what what how can people what's the social media and where
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they go to the site that people can get to you thank you go to dailyclout.io you'll read this
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report there all the reports are there and also the the related one which i'll be discussing tomorrow
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as soon as you can have me back on about men and sperm count which really parents of teenage boys and
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baby boys need to know right away um and additionally you can find me on dr naomi r wolf on getter
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um and please keep reading the bodies of others as my platforms vanish um it's really my book that
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i guess you'll be screaming when you read it you'll be screaming at the walls but remember
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naomi wolf's going to punch through this that's how we got to do it dr wolf thank you very much
00:35:48.000
join us thank you steve thank you bye-bye okay eric prince and uh brother patterson are on here and
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they're going to tell us ryan they're going to tell us about hacker con you got to make me feel better
00:36:01.180
guys i'm so depressed i'm actually energized that we're fighting back on big pharma and eric you and
00:36:06.460
i have spent so many hours talking about this and the implications of it tomorrow she's going to drop
00:36:11.520
this report they're working on on about sperm the abortions and the self and the spontaneous abortions
00:36:17.760
and menstrual are bad enough but uh what the team has done in research is just incredible so tell us
00:36:23.760
about that you were out there with the rogues and the rebels part of it was to uh was to make sure
00:36:28.740
that you get hackers or try to hack into your own system but give us overall hacker con what was the
00:36:34.140
what was the general tone of things in the most important cyber security conference in the world
00:36:40.400
and particularly this weekend we're going to go where we're with mike lindell in the summit talking
00:36:45.360
about the trial of the machines and hacking into the machines where is that just a fantasy of crazy
00:36:50.540
people like mike lindell and tina peters or do the smartest toughest uh most expert people in the
00:36:58.480
world and hacking think that the machines are vulnerable guys uh steve this is my first time
00:37:05.200
at defcon the big hacker conference in las vegas i've been to vegas many many times mostly for the
00:37:10.000
shot show and those kind of places so it's definitely it would an unusual experience uh it is basically a
00:37:15.740
it's 25 conferences within a conference and they're doing everything from aviation hacking
00:37:21.660
um car hacking physical lock hacking um a voting machine hacking area uh dozens of conference uh
00:37:31.720
dozens of speakers etc and we went there because we wanted to crowdsource our security for unplugged
00:37:37.820
phones and so um it's the right place to gain the knowledge to to meet the kind of people that are
00:37:44.440
after this we met people from the military from uh all across the spectrum of of defenders and
00:37:50.640
attackers and i would say on the election hacking already in 2017 they started doing um uh attempted
00:37:58.800
hacks on voting machines and they got into them within two hours so and they were busy at it again uh
00:38:05.300
this conference as well and so i would say um the voting machines and and you can even look at it from
00:38:11.140
the business side making voting machines is not very big business and so it's hard to get companies to
00:38:16.800
spend a lot of money on the on the defensive measures that they should considering how important voting
00:38:22.400
machines are to the republic uh government tends to buy low cost goods not necessarily the highest
00:38:28.260
quality and uh what i can say i i don't understand the detail of how they were hacking but they were
00:38:34.000
busy hacking those same kind of voting machines across the spectrum of manufacturers today so again we were
00:38:40.640
there to meet the right people to to get guidance as to the kind of uh bug bounty the kind of uh
00:38:49.600
rewards that need to be out there for for us and so i'll pass this to my colleague ryan who is a true
00:38:56.020
pro from the uh information security and messaging industry about what we're doing to crowdsource our
00:39:01.160
security ryan great thanks eric yeah what was interesting for for me to realize is we had both the
00:39:09.680
the technical hacking side of thing but then also the human hacking side of thing there was an entire
00:39:13.740
social engineering uh curriculum at defcon um and and normally when we get into things it requires a
00:39:21.560
little bit of both right you need to get somebody who's willing to say here's a pathway in and there
00:39:26.500
was a there was a competition where people were calling into companies and trying to get username
00:39:31.820
password access what's the physical access in in a building look like who do i need to talk to
00:39:37.760
um and so as we sat we we had we had we had one idea of what we wanted to do for the bounty and the
00:39:43.880
crowdsourcing of our of our platform uh the security of our platform but then we came away and thought like
00:39:49.200
we could make this much better so so here's what we're going to do steve and we're going to announce
00:39:53.120
this all the rules on the first of september um so you're getting the first preview um we're going
00:39:58.220
to put two dozen phones around the world um in israel jordan south africa ecuador uh the united
00:40:07.460
states all over and those phones are going to be running our unplugged vpn our unplugged messenger
00:40:12.640
and they're going to be passing back and forth to each other in group texts the password for a
00:40:18.080
cryptocurrency wallet that's got five thousand dollars in it if you can get to that wallet and
00:40:24.500
find our password that five thousand dollars is yours if you then come back to us and say here's
00:40:31.100
how we got to the wallet and give us the pathway with with which you got it we've got twenty five
00:40:36.140
thousand more dollars for you escrowed with with attorneys ready to go we're going to publish the
00:40:41.860
locations of all the phones um city and country not not any more precise than that we are going to
00:40:46.780
publish all the phone numbers of the phones um the phones will be continually pushing messages
00:40:52.160
around we'll be able to provide updates and visualizations of where messages flowed all over
00:40:56.360
the world and our whole goal is to get other people uh to look at it eric talked about this
00:41:01.580
crowdsourcing you know you hand it over to one person and they do it you can't replicate it you hand
00:41:06.320
it over to a hundred thousand people and they all get after it uh you you learn so much uh from the
00:41:12.620
crowd and so we're we're we're really excited to be able to to announce this first here on your show
00:41:18.020
uh all the rules will be out on the first of september and uh yeah we're looking forward to
00:41:24.900
some after what we saw on las vegas we're in we're looking forward to some very very
00:41:34.180
is is is the uh is the uh yeah go ahead eric go ahead and remember that's unplugged.com
00:41:43.520
forward slash war room where you can pre-order a phone and you can download our secure messenger
00:41:50.680
vpn and app suite right now uh come and join and uh and guarantee secure communication with your
00:41:58.080
friends family and uh and colleagues you you guys pride yourself in the encryption key and this that
00:42:06.180
it's unhackable that's why you're going out to the that's why you're going out to the uh to the world
00:42:11.380
to say hey we challenge you to do this but in the attitude when you go to defcon is that these people
00:42:17.260
think everything is hackable they don't think there's been a system yet whether it's a whether
00:42:23.320
it's a cryptocurrency or whether it's a nuclear code and i realize there's there's a vast percentage
00:42:30.000
they haven't hacked but the attitude of these guys these are real rogues rebels and and gunslingers
00:42:35.160
right yeah and so i i started to talk a little bit about the fact that it usually takes some
00:42:41.420
technical and some personal and we look back to edward snowden um the biggest stuff that that got
00:42:46.880
hacked from our nation and that included a human and some technical access and some technical prowess
00:42:53.280
and um you know if you can always the the biggest flaw um in our systems are the humans that are on the
00:43:01.060
other side of the keyboard um and and that was that was why it was so interesting for us to see
00:43:04.800
physical locks technical locks and then and then cognitive locks uh and people be able to hack
00:43:10.280
humans um to get them to give up things that they shouldn't give up so if you've got a human on the inside
00:43:16.520
let me ask you um when you talk about your your system is so sophisticated right it's like some of
00:43:28.500
the ones in national security because you two guys come out of national security when i talk about
00:43:33.860
elections and the run-up we've got to the summit this week that breakout session they had over the
00:43:39.060
elections that's not really the pros from dover i mean they hack into these machines they say this is
00:43:44.880
not me and i'm not a machine guy at all but they they sit there and correct me if i'm wrong at defcon
00:43:49.980
and say hey we hack into these things in a couple hours because it's just not they're not that
00:43:55.900
complicated is that the sense that you guys get also
00:43:59.060
i would say with the amount of money that's been thrown around at elections the chances of hiring
00:44:07.880
professional hackers to do malfeasance to an election uh machine is quite high and it's extremely
00:44:13.980
dangerous and uh uh it's almost an argument to go back to uh to to paper or to something that is uh
00:44:25.900
what i'm not even talking about you get you can have professional hang for a second ryan you jump
00:44:31.760
here nine professional uh eric the ccp the russians eastern europe i mean the guys are the experts in
00:44:40.300
the best in hacking let's leave the united states folks out for a second are uh what i saw bad hombres
00:44:46.760
from bad neighborhoods right it's all the eastern european guys you know bulgaria romania
00:44:53.740
it's uh ukraine it's russia or it's the ccp north korea or that area up in manchuria that's really
00:45:02.080
kind of no man's land right so forget even the individual entrepreneurial bandits and pirates
00:45:08.640
but just state sponsored hacking in this has got to be a national security concern right and i don't
00:45:15.980
know why it's not put up as a higher national concern because the security concern by the
00:45:20.440
administrative state because as you said these contracts are led to the lowest cost bidder as
00:45:26.300
these state governments and local governments and even where the federal government government is
00:45:31.200
they're not that sophisticated at least not that sophisticated as far as the ability
00:45:36.160
to to beat off uh hacking and i realize i keep saying they're not hooked up to the internet never
00:45:41.600
hooked up to the internet but it seems to me enough professionals are out there that are questioning
00:45:45.760
that that is something that's got to be dealt with now ryan let me start with you and then we go to
00:45:50.080
air yeah again i just i think i think one of the things that gets glossed over a lot is is that the
00:45:56.120
attack surface the attack vectors are broad and they start with connection at some point in time these
00:46:01.560
machines are connected to the internet um during the operation of voting they're not um there are folks
00:46:07.880
that can get close enough to a device proximity rfi rfid or other proximity where they can get into
00:46:14.160
those and then there is the human side of this where somebody can make a mistake and give somebody
00:46:18.840
access that they did not intend to give access to right so there's there's long there's far away
00:46:23.360
um network access there's proximity access and then there's human access that come into all of
00:46:28.420
these things and and it often gets it often gets devolved down to like this person hacked into the
00:46:34.860
internet and that's that's not how any of our major breaches um that we've seen anywhere in the globe
00:46:40.700
have happened it's always been a combination of those three things eric your thoughts on this
00:46:46.740
yeah as ryan says with with broad access close access and of course the invariability of humans
00:46:55.140
either making a an intentional or a a unintentional mistake uh clearly there's a lot of access a lot of
00:47:02.640
ways for bad things to happen in voting and uh you know our our elections are so contested because
00:47:08.080
government has just become too large uh it is our job to just make it smaller so people can go on with
00:47:13.960
their lives but uh but we're gonna things are gonna get really really ugly if people continue to lose
00:47:20.400
faith and to to question the validity of these elections and so it it must be tightened down and it's
00:47:27.340
something that you can do at your local level to make sure your local election is tight you can demand
00:47:31.560
it at your state level and of course the federal government we know has its own set of issues but
00:47:36.080
um that's the strength of our federal system hopefully most things still affect us uh at our
00:47:42.060
state and local level uh and and and the federal election has to be tightened up and uh and i believe
00:47:48.080
you said there is a big supreme court decision pending uh that will put those decisions back in the
00:47:53.380
hands of state legislatures and take it away from activist uh yes uh governors and secretaries of state
00:47:58.740
that's a very very key decision independent state legislature yep in in the couple minutes we got
00:48:04.960
left you know we we have uh home title lock we have a lot of sponsors that are there to tell people
00:48:11.360
hey it's a new universe out there when everything's digital everything's online what's just your general
00:48:16.040
takeaway and coming going to defcon and seeing the number of hackers the depth of their talent the
00:48:22.100
scale of what they can do uh is it a is a uh are you more comfortable with cyber security today
00:48:28.340
are you saying hey this is this conference ought to be called defcon one uh well i you know private
00:48:36.420
companies take this much more seriously because they have legal exposure for uh for disclosure of
00:48:42.380
private information uh ford tesla have vehicles there where people can hack them and whoever hacks them the
00:48:49.500
best uh gets a vehicle and the companies learn from that experience they it's well worth them
00:48:56.480
spending the vehicle and sending people out there because they are constantly probed they are
00:49:00.300
crowdsourcing security that's why we are crowdsourcing our security for unplugged by by casting it wide for
00:49:06.940
the world the problem with government is it's tend to be slow to adapt uh very bureaucratic even if it's
00:49:13.160
the best intentions of people running the government they're still very very bureaucratic and slow and they
00:49:18.660
don't really adapt to the the modern threats and nuances now if you couple um that much exposure
00:49:25.540
on top of uh i would say uh perhaps bad intent by some bureaucrats it's a very very volatile combination
00:49:32.900
and it must be addressed and repaired immediately
00:49:35.300
ryan we got about a minute give us your summary about how can people look forward to the one september
00:49:42.740
start of this so as eric said you know we're really looking forward to putting the crowd
00:49:48.580
on this problem i i've had the pleasure of serving in a couple of very fun government agencies that did
00:49:53.160
research and development uh for the department of defense and they crowdsource things everything from
00:49:59.080
autonomous vehicles to cyber defense and other things right and so and so everybody has now realized
00:50:03.240
when you get a larger set of eyes to look at a problem and folks that are willing to spend a few hours
00:50:08.220
when you bring that together with some potential prizes whether they be you know a little bit of
00:50:12.040
a prize for everybody or a large prize for somebody um you get to outsize your ability to have folks help
00:50:18.100
you get more secure um i i i i think there there is still this this place where people don't understand
00:50:27.200
just how vulnerable we are in our everyday communication on everything we do all the time
00:50:32.680
agree uh unplugged.com forward slash war room go there check it out today we'll be back at 10 o'clock
00:50:41.220
eric eric prince ryan patterson thank you guys very much for joining us we'll see you tomorrow morning