Battleground EP 206： The Battle For Speaker; War Against The Cartel In Mexico
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Join us as we discuss the current immigration crisis at the southern border of the United States of America. Congressman Troy Nels from the Great State of Texas joins us to discuss the situation and what the future holds for law enforcement and the citizens of the border states.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
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and i think there's some discussion of what's going to happen next we're very honored
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to have as our first guest tonight congressman troy nels from the great state of texas uh congressman
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nels you're actually major nels you're a retiree uh arm army reserve and you were also the sheriff
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down there in a couple locations but in fort ben county texas tell us about that tell us a little
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bit about yourself before we get into asking some questions
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sheriff my father was a sheriff in dodge county wisconsin i have an older brother that became
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a sheriff the sheriff in dodge county wisconsin and then i have an identical twin brother
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we moved on to texas and eventually i rose through the ranks and became the sheriff of fort
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main county texas which is a suburb of houston just outside of harris county i had a large county
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826 employees so i spent 30 years in law enforcement i was the sheriff for eight years
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and i enjoyed it but i have to tell you steve i don't know if i'd all want to start all over again
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very difficult occupation very difficult profession today
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congressman biden has announced they're going to go down to texas he's actually going to go to the
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walk us through the pressures just out of law enforcement what has since the biden administration
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i called the biden regime has come into office with this massive uh illegal alien essentially
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invasion of a country how how has that affected law enforcement how has affected the citizens
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down in fort ben well you know i'm about four hours north of the the southern border and i had
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my uh residents of fort ben county become victims of crime from illegal aliens that have entered this
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country i can recall a senior woman that was struck and killed by a car uh in my county obviously the
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individual uh fled from the scene we apprehended him and once we arrested him we discovered that this
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individual has been deported eight previous times think about that he's been deported eight times
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how the hell did he get back into this country so quickly
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so i we have a we have a southern border problem we have an immigration law or lack thereof we've got
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problems in our southern border they must be addressed so now joe biden's going down there to think that
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he's going to accomplish something if you want to accomplish something joe biden what you do is close your
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mouth close your mouth and reinstitute all of uh institute all of donald trump's policies because
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under donald trump it was the most secure border in four decades
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congressman now does law enforcement think that the uh that the forget the state government they think
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the federal government's got their back when it comes to enforcing uh the law and bringing criminals
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getting criminals away from victimizing individuals particularly the minority community the hispanic and
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the african american community does law enforcement uh officers the front line do they think that the
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federal government has their back well when you look at what's taking place in the great state of
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texas obviously we have hundreds of miles of the border in the great state of texas and what is our state
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legislature and our state government done uh you obviously have governor greg abbott that is augmenting the
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border patrol he's augmenting the border patrol with the department of public safety and the texas
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national guard because obviously the border patrol is spread so thin and we have an a crisis at our
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southern border the problem i have with that is i applaud the efforts but the problem i have with
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that is it's not the state of texas who's responsibility it's the federal government's
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responsibility specifically congress to secure our southern border so the texas taxpayers are paying
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for national guard soldiers to be there and the department of public safety up to the upwards of
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almost a billion dollars a year and it's not our responsibility so i understand why greg abbott's
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doing it but it shouldn't be required it should be done at the by the federal government and congress
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and so i i don't joe biden listen send your borders are down there what has she done for the southern
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border and when you got a guy named mayorkas your dhs secretary that will look at the american people
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in the camera and say that the southern border is secure he's lying to the american people and he
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should be impeached congressman you're an army major right and you're a sheriff i've spent a career
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in law enforcement why would a man of action run for congress what what what motivated you to do it and
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what did you hope to accomplish because you don't really think of of congress as a place for
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somebody that's out there in kind of the front lines is somebody that
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why did you do it and what did you hope to accomplish well it was the southern border steve it's a great
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question you know i was ready to retire i mean i had 30 years into this thing but when i looked at
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what was taking place at our southern border not only that story i shared with you about that elderly
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woman that was killed by an illegal immigrant who was deported a previous time we also had large
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amounts of gangs colombian gangs and others that were breaking into homes resident residential homes
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and committing burglaries so i saw that there was a significant problem with individuals entering our
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country oh and by the way the burglars that we apprehended there were like a gang of 17 several of
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those knuckleheads have been deported from our country more than one time so i knew that we had
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a problem here and i said to myself i'm going to do what i can to protect this nation to put the
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american people first and secure our southern border and that's what i'm trying to do i'm fighting for it
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each and every day in washington dc president trump just tweeted out today actually thinking put out
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more of a of a of a policy thing he said upon his re-election he will actually declare essentially war
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on the on the cartels and he wants military action or paramilitary action to really take the fight to the
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cartels even if that means and applies even it means going into mexico do you as someone from law
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enforcement that had to deal with this every day you agree with that i love the idea i think donald
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trump what he's trying to do is he's trying to protect the american people and right now we need
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to declare war on the cartels certainly if anybody that is awake and understands we are losing thousands
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of people in this country to the fentanyl crisis if you help secure the southern border we could lose
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less lives we will have we won't have the amount of fentanyl reaching the american people not only
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in texas that are in the southern states but this fentanyl crisis is reaching every american family
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across the entire country so i understand what donald trump is saying by we need to take the fight
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to the cartels we need to work something out with the mexican government and say let me tell you
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something in my opinion if we're not violating any treaties or any international law we need to identify
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who these individuals are these these terrorists quite honestly these drug pushers and we need to take
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them out we need to eliminate them eliminate them from the face of the earth because right now
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they control the cartels control our southern border we need to take the fight to them and we need to
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congressman when you shifted from 30 years in law enforcement and down in fort ben and you ran for
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office what are the one or two things not what you promised but what you heard from your constituents
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what were the one or two they wanted you to focus on when you went to washington dc
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well obviously when i was campaigning i had a very difficult primary a lot of individuals i clobbered
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them all you don't want to get you don't want to run against a pot you know a popular sheriff but i made
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a commitment to the people in my district that we will fight this swamp that there's an establishment
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swamp up here when trump described described this as a swamp he was right i've experienced it now
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for two years i said i'm going to fight this swamp we have to reduce spending we have to get our
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southern border under control we have to put the american people first and that's why i joined the
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freedom caucus i love what they stand for they're america first patriots and that's who i am and i put the
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american people first in the decisions that i make up here each and every day so i think they're very
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pleased quite honestly steve with my performance and what i've done over the first two years because
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i was very very successful in the primary and i overperformed in the general election as well
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congressman the freedom caucus is now on the tip of everybody's tongue even people that don't pay
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close attention to politics because the situation we're gonna get into this now um and and i realize
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that some of your colleagues and closest associates that are part of the group that are either working
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for forums or some of them just say hey look i don't trust mccarthy i'm not going to get there
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but in the freedom caucus itself is it appropriate to call the
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sir i'm sorry i you you cut out there for a bit steve i'm sorry
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there there are a lot of commentators particularly on msnbc and cnn are referring to the freedom
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caucus not just the the parts of the freedom caucus that are in the 20 that are uh you know
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either negotiating a package with mccarthy or fighting mccarthy not voting for him but they're
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calling the entire freedom caucus a collection of extremists uh is that in your mind a true statement
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i tell you when you look at me steve you're looking at me i served in law enforcement for 30 years
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i lost friends in combat in afghanistan i was i was in the military for 21 retired as a major
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went to iraq afghanistan i did all that do i look like an extremist i was willing i was willing steve
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to risk my life and lay down my life in service to this country so those organizations well it's
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whether it's mslsd or cnn or some of those other fake news networks want to say that i'm an extremist
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i want you to say that to my face because i would say shame on you i was willing to lay down my life
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in service to this country and i've done it for two and three decades so you're out of bounds you're
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out of bounds for for accusing me or looking at me as some type of an extremist we have many members
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in the freedom caucus and they're very principled people now we may not necessarily agree on this
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i don't think this is the the battle that we should be waging i think the real war starts
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as it comes to policy and legislation when we get our speaker and our people set but i i just i take
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offense to that and they should be shamed it's shameful that they would call individuals like me
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and other members extremists it's unfortunate right before i go to that i gotta ask you when
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you're overseas in combat and and with your uh your comrades and and your colleagues and and men and
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women giving uh becoming uh casualties and and some getting killed uh and some having ptsd when they got
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back and committing suicide when you were there at the time did you have any earthly idea when you
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would get to if you were ever to get to congress that the city and the swamp would run like it was
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you were there fighting for your country uh fighting for democracy fighting for all that was there any
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conception of how corrupt uh the washington dc is well you know when i was a sheriff i know i'm not
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30 years old or 40 years old either steve i've been around the block a few times i would come up to the
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city of washington dc for uh the national sheriff's association we had a midwinter conference up here
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every uh in the spring of every year and i would come up here and i would roll down the window in my
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car and i would let my beautiful bride i would say baby you can smell the corruption you can smell the
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corruption up here and it's unfortunate it's unfortunate that washington is where it is today
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this has to change it has to change we need to change direction this place has to have some
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strong leadership that puts the american people first i am one of very few that have never voted
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and could not support giving ukraine billions of dollars and why am i not willing to support ukraine
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i was there in august of 2021 i had an opportunity to visit the ukraine but i am not in favor of
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giving ukraine taxpayer money upwards of over 100 billion dollars and now when we have all the
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issues we face in america how about take some of that money and put it at our southern border
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how about help some of the homelessness that we have here in the city of washington dc how about
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helping some of those veterans that are suffering from ptsd so they don't take their lives and or the
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lives of their family members before they take their own lives and i've also experienced that as a
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share for fort pain county try to explain that one to relatives so we have all sorts of issues here
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in this country and i'm the guy that says we got to put the american people first and that money
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needs to be spent in this great country of ours to protect america to look out for america period
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okay okay if if i had to take your profile a guy that served his country once for in in the army and
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actually did deployments in combat then was in law enforcement for 30 years and was a popular sheriff
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and then a sheriff at fort bent and popular enough to get so for the third time you're serving your
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country going to congress and you're a little bit like mr smith goes to congress if i look at your
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profile freedom caucus hey i'm a patriot and i'm a defense guy but i don't agree with the ukraine
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situation i agree with the money your entire profile you would think that you would be one of
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the uh resistance or whatever they call them the 20 why make the case and you're in your number one
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thing in fact the reason you're not retired living on a ranch somewhere enjoying your retirement you're
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actually back and giving of yourself again is because you want to take on the swamp make the case what
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you seem like the perfect uh uh model that was supposed to be in the resistance why are you not
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why are you supporting kevin mccarthy sir a great question steven i'm happy to answer that i have spoken
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to some of my friends i have spoken to some of the 20 in the freedom caucus that are anti-mccarthy that
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are an absolute no to mccarthy and i tried to explain to them i says fellas and guys and gals i'm trying
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to understand this i know you don't want speaker mccarthy to be the leader but i number one you're
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fighting 201 individuals over 200 in this conference that are going to say we don't want anybody else
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other than leader mccarthy and all we are doing right now is delaying the ability for us to look
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into the investigations of hunter biden whether we look in the mayorkas with the southern border
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whether we look at christopher ray and garland who number one we need to have them in front of our
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committees i just felt this is not the battle we should be waging because in my humble opinion
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leader mccarthy understands we have 222 of us he'll need 218 to get any legislation across through the
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house of representatives steve there's 35 to 40 of us in the freedom caucus 35 to 40 of us kevin
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mccarthy understands that nothing will get through the house of representatives without the house
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freedom caucus he's going to need our support and he's going to need our endorsement on legislation
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and that is the time when we have policy and legislation that's these are the battles we should
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be having when we have policy and legislation and we will move kevin mccarthy to the right because
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if he doesn't move right nothing's going to pass the house or very little at all
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on the look we have a set of investigations you know you've got the administrative state
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you're law enforcement you know how out of control the fbi is you know how out of control the doj is
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the administrative state you look at the debt ceiling you look at they've taken the gavel away
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from mccarthy on this horrible omnibus bill do you believe this issue of trust comes up can you go back
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because obviously you're an honorable guy and in in the people thought enough of you a sheriff to put
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you in congress can you go back to your constitution and say hey look i trust this guy and when the time
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gets tough i'm giving you my word that he's going to be tough enough to make sure that we don't just
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get trillions of dollars in the debt ceiling we don't have another omnibus like the 1.7 trillion
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that the investigations congressmen are not going to be like benghazi just performing there's going
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to be real stuff that you're going to have a voice when it comes to ukraine and saying hey look
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i'm a patriot i've served my country i serve in combat but i don't agree with what's going on here
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do can you look your constituents in the eye and say hey this guy may not be perfect but this is the
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guy sir i believe he can steven and this is a good example when i look at uh the uh government
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oversight reform under representative comer i think he's going to be great he has done press conferences
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he has said we need to look at hunter biden we need to look at his laptop laptop we know who the
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big guy is i applaud his efforts to go after and look and have these investigations because i think
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the american people are demanding answers and then you have representative jim jordan who's going to be
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over judiciary which i hope i'm going to serve on and we can have those investigations as well as it
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relates to the fbi comer as it relates or the fbi as as well as uh the uh the doj so no i believe that
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there are great days ahead i believe that as the majority as the republican majority that we can get
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answers to some of these questions fauci needs to be brought up in front of us and so i think leader
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mccarthy speaker mccarthy who has a good team around him uh that we can do a lot of good service
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uh to the conservative base as well as the republican party as a whole
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do you believe last question do you believe that he will back up a real investigation of january 6th
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do we get to the bottom of the information pelosi had the information dhs had how much involvement by
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the fbi and dhs do we get a true accounting of what happened from soup to nuts on everything the
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good and the bad that the nation gets a full accounting with public hearings on j6 do you believe
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mccarthy would back people on that i certainly hope so and i would i would uh respectfully ask him to do
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so because listen steve i was at the uh the dc gulag today i spent an hour and 15 minutes in there
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i actually had an opportunity to talk to the 21 there are currently 21 j6 detainees inside the dc gulag
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and many of them are there on pre-trial confinement state they haven't found filled they haven't found
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found guilty of anything so i'm paying attention to this i know a little bit about january 6th i was
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the last member to leave the house floor i wrote a book on january 6th that's been endorsed by donald
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trump because this sham committee this benny thompson and liz cheney and all of them it's all about
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donald trump the this sham committee was not about seeking truth into january 6th and how we can
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prevent it from taking place again january 6th was a law enforcement failure and in the book it should
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have never happened i lay it all out there in the book that's been endorsed by donald trump so no i
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think we have some questions that need to be asked of the capitol police of the leadership team
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nancy pelosi needs to come before us we have a lot of questions because right now january 6th should
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have never happened it should have never happened and look at where we are today because they failed
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to act the leadership failed to act on the intelligence that was glaring them in the face
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weeks before january 6th and they did nothing with it they did nothing with it shameful that would
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shameful that would be that would be a man that would be a massive national scandal if we get to
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the bottom of it last question having been a sheriff and spent 30 years in law enforcement you just
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call it a gulag i understand someone like you chooses your words carefully have you ever in your
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career seen individuals held pre-trial for this length of time well they've been held is that not a
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national scandal sir yeah the problem that they have is that these individuals obviously have been
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charged with federal charges i told them when i was with them today i said you guys would have
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rather had state charges because then you would be offered bail under the federal system you're either
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offered you're either released or you're not there really is no bail system and and i told them all
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inside there i said i'm going to do what i can i'm going to do what i can to help you they had several
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complaints uh they were concerned about the grievance process their grievances won't be heard they were
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concerned about the medical treatment that they were receiving and obviously religious services so
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there are things that i want to do to try to help them with due process i think their violation their
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rights of due process obviously is a concern of mine and and we need to pay some attention to them
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and hopefully after we get our speaker elected kevin mccarthy will give me an opportunity to spend some
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time in that area working maybe with jim jordan and the others on judiciary
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uh congressman we'd look forward to having you back here what's your social media how can people
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follow you and how they go to the website to find out more about you well the best way to do it i think
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to see is is go to uh go to amazon go to amazon and look at the big fraud big fraud endorsed by
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donald trump it talks about january 6th it's all truth this is truth there's two chapters about january
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6th it talks about the sham committee it explains the timelines everybody wants to blame donald trump
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for this donald trump is not at fault for january 6th folks that sham report that committee report
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800 pages or so has donald trump's listed his name 4 000 times how many times was ray epp's name
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listed in that report a fat goose egg zero so you know that we're not about seeking the truth
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my book is all about the truth that's why it's doing very well on amazon it's called the big fraud
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google me troy nails yeah troy nails you'll see me i'm a i'm an america first patriot
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congressman we will push the book we'll make sure you get it up thank you very much for sending as
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much time as you did today appreciate it thank you steve you're a great american god bless
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well we try sir thank you very much i'll tell you what i've got todd bensman is big breaking news
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in the border but i also have dc drano uh dc drano uh thank you uh for joining us as uh sir
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do we have uh rogan o'hanley yes sir it's always we've got about two minutes here there's been a
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lot of going back and forth with deals today you've been a little hot on twitter give us an update
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right now i think they're actually getting ready for round 11 ballot 11 they're making the uh the
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introductory uh nomination speeches right now what are you hearing with all your sources uh dc about
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what's going on what's the horse trading that's going on right now i'm hearing that mccarthy is
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making a lot of concessions i can't get into details but uh the concessions he's making i will
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you know disclose at some point uh but it's it's insane that he was even holding back on some of these
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things and you know i i'm not a member of congress i can only speak as a member of the
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the maga base and a lot of us just don't trust mccarthy you know part of the concessions needs
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to be that he is not the speaker and we got 221 other members of congress jim jordan would be
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fantastic byron donald would be great so anyone but mccarthy but uh if if we are going to end up
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with mccarthy i do think that we have won a massive moral victory and proven to the entire dc swamp
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that nothing gets done without the freedom caucus without the people's vote so that is
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somewhat reassuring but i'm still anti mccarthy dc drano hang on for a second because i've got
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todd bensman i've got you i want to take a break i want to come back there's some activity up on the
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hill right now there's been another historic day i think they're into around 11 we have rogan o'hanley
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uh he knows the inside scoop i think what he's saying it's boiling down to and i think this is the
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it's going to get down to that i think rogan nailed it but i want to talk about this reform
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regardless of what happens here the game has changed the swamp has been changed for this process
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just in the last 72 hours also todd bensman joe biden has finally said he's going to go to the border
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there's a lot going on that really has not been focused on in the last couple days because the
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okay welcome back as we went to break uh matt gates republican from florida put into nomination
00:30:47.680
a donald j trump to be speaker of the house we're gonna get to that hopefully pull that in a second
00:30:51.960
memphis will let me know when that's ready rogan how does that change your attitude trump has now
00:30:56.600
uh put an official nomination uh for speaker is he the best compromise candidate here sir
00:31:02.220
well it's a dream of a lot of us i was on your show talking about this in january 2021
00:31:09.920
i think it would energize the base i think it would uh you know i i i i talk about how people think we're
00:31:17.540
upset that congress isn't moving this is the best uh news we've gotten in two plus years every time
00:31:24.160
congress moves our dollar is worth less our border is more open and more money goes overseas so
00:31:30.060
anything is better than what was happening and you know i think trump no no no no this is this
00:31:35.640
hold on hold it i want to say something this is kismet this is actual dharma when i was talking this i
00:31:42.600
would talk behind the scenes with people all the time sir you were the first one to put it out i think
00:31:47.260
you tweeted it out and that's why i said hey we gotta get dc drena on the show we could we had you on
00:31:52.000
the show that day i think it was a year and a half almost two years ago you were the very first guy i
00:31:56.420
think that actually ever went out there i i took as much credit for it as possible obviously but no
00:32:01.700
that is why it's so ironic in the very moment this was not set up in the very moment that matt gates
00:32:08.360
nominates trump rogan o'hanley dc drena one of the top influencers put this out there to talk about
00:32:15.140
and remember some people took it seriously i took it very seriously in fact i told i said look
00:32:19.200
if he had gotten focused and committed to this on monday night he would have won in the first round
00:32:24.720
we wouldn't have gone through any of this stuff and he would agree to the reform package in fact
00:32:27.980
rogan he would have sat there and go are you kidding me this is the way the place has been
00:32:31.640
run before we're not going to do that he would done is there anybody in your mind on a serious
00:32:36.380
given where we are right now given the debt ceiling negotiations that the the massive spending package
00:32:42.320
that we got to somehow defeat uh the southern border uh ukraine uh the the investigations into
00:32:48.720
the fbi and and the joint committee on weaponization of government is anybody better at least for a
00:32:53.660
hundred days and maybe more than donald j trump to step in here sir no he he's the number one he's he can
00:33:01.800
make a phone call and get anything done that needs to get done he knows all the players he knows the good
00:33:07.540
guys he knows the bad guys he knows the money people and he's going to be running in 2024 everyone's
00:33:12.960
going to be walking on eggshells to make sure they do the right thing can you imagine him running
00:33:17.180
the january 6 investigations it it needs to happen
00:33:21.940
i think this is i think it's absolutely amazing uh dc drano i know you can't talk about a lot of
00:33:30.080
what's going on behind the scenes but do you believe given the lack of trust even with this package
00:33:35.020
and you said it best uh the maga movement in the house freedom caucus and other associated people
00:33:40.540
like lauren boebert have moved this thing so far so far to the right where it was not and even
00:33:46.060
an exercise in uh in good government right but do you believe there's too much lack of trust by the
00:33:52.920
core of this 20 that mccarthy's just never going to be speaker i unfortunately think there's still
00:34:00.400
a chance that mccarthy can be speaker because when it comes down to it
00:34:05.020
power uh is power and he unfortunately has a lot of it but i do think this has sent shockwaves
00:34:13.160
through the system and i really want a different speaker i cannot trust this guy he was on a book
00:34:20.600
cover with paul ryan and eric kantor he wore the ukraine flag that you know what tucker carlson called
00:34:27.740
him out on the ukraine flag pin last night and he's not even wearing a u.s flag pin today right
00:34:33.780
that's just that you know maybe if we were sending money to americans he'd wear the u.s flag pin i mean
00:34:40.580
i don't know what it takes so i do not trust the guy whatsoever he's a swamp rat pretending to be a
00:34:46.940
chameleon for the maga base but uh in the end no matter what i am confident that the power of the
00:34:54.440
freedom caucus has been made very clear and nothing will get done without their consent
00:34:59.340
regardless of who is the speaker rogan how do people follow you on social media and uh in all
00:35:05.960
of it because you're one of the most important influencers in maga well i i think uh you know
00:35:12.060
i'm just just contributing here as much the war room i think is what's really moving the needle on
00:35:17.560
any given issue but you can find me dc underscore drano stands for draining the dc swamp we're
00:35:23.480
watching it right now i know you don't like the phrase as much but uh you know it's a beautiful
00:35:28.080
thing to watch it happen in real time this is the fight that the american people have wanted for a
00:35:33.440
long time it's very gratifying amen brother thank you very much dc drano a young man who really
00:35:42.100
came up with the idea two years ago talk about the irony at the very moment he's on the war room
00:35:47.560
is exactly when matt gates puts trump a name in nomination on something that rogan and hanley
00:35:52.520
thought of a couple of years ago and that we championed um in fact i say i steal i stole the
00:35:58.200
idea from rogan so i'm stealing it fair and square 202-225-3121 is the number we want your voice
00:36:05.240
to be heard if you support mccarthy support mccarthy call tell your congressman tell him you support
00:36:11.000
him if you want change and you don't support mccarthy call and say what you support what you
00:36:16.080
support first of is not mccarthy give them your ideas but make sure that your voice is heard do
00:36:21.080
not be silent this time there's been a massive exercise and it's not going to stop it's not
00:36:25.220
going to stop tonight uh even with this deal they're putting on the table but make sure that
00:36:29.880
your voice is heard because quite frankly much of this is because of this audience right in
00:36:35.400
particularly the debt ceiling and things like that uh do i still have todd bensman can i get todd
00:36:39.520
bensman up todd bensman of cis um todd i think by the way todd bensman of cis can i i want to do one
00:36:46.460
thing right and getting trot up i want to play i think we got the matt gates clip uh ready let's go
00:36:51.880
ahead and play the matt gates clip gentleman from florida rides to place a name in nomination for
00:36:57.160
the position of speaker of the house the gentleman is recognized my friends when donald trump was
00:37:02.900
president taxes were cut regulations were slashed energy was abundant wages were rising capital was
00:37:12.260
returning from overseas to fund the dreams and ambitions of our fellow americans and the economy
00:37:18.580
was roaring what a contrast to what we have seen from this administration now and so i rise to
00:37:26.120
nominate donald trump for the position of speaker of the house
00:37:32.900
okay that's uh that is uh matt gates pretty historic moment um by the way i think i misspoke
00:37:38.280
the john quincy adams was not speaker john quincy adams after the presidency and this is the
00:37:42.680
controversial one that he stole from andrew jackson went back was in the house afterwards so donald trump
00:37:48.380
had had as many votes i think as just as a member of the house not a speaker john adams actually got
00:37:54.040
two votes to be speaker trump is tied with that at least before this next round i want to bring in
00:37:59.140
todd bensman todd there's a lot going on and so much of what's happening right now on the speakership
00:38:03.080
as you know is tied to the issues that you deal with the southern border now first thing i got to
00:38:08.560
get because we haven't time to cover it joe biden is actually headed to the border in texas your
00:38:13.840
favorite place is this purely performative um uh todd and they made a bunch of announcements of 30 000
00:38:20.960
what a day and what they're going to let in or total walk us through all these changes that they're
00:38:25.820
talking about and joe biden's now feels like he's being forced to go to the southern border to act
00:38:30.840
tough sir so today joe biden announced to the entire world that everybody is welcome to enter the united
00:38:40.620
states at its southern border through extra legal processes that i have reported already they call
00:38:48.500
legal pathways uh they're actually illegal pathways uh where the illegal immigrants or people who are
00:38:56.480
intending to cross the border illegally are now going to be given a legal way while they're still in
00:39:03.100
mexico or uh somewhere else in latin america to then be escorted into the united states legally so that
00:39:12.680
they're not called illegal immigrants anymore they're expanding that pathway last month i reported
00:39:19.520
agnosium about this program this legal escort handoff program i don't know what to call it nobody's
00:39:27.280
got a name for it uh that's already been in place from tijuana to matamorris they've been letting in
00:39:33.820
tens of thousands already through the who were going to cross the border illegally by legalizing them
00:39:40.880
first under humanitarian parole the president told the entire world today that they were going to
00:39:48.860
uh have access to that program all over latin america and also at the u.s southern border uh that the
00:39:58.000
people that crossed the southern border would be pushed back under title 42 from four country four new
00:40:04.440
countries but not to stay in mexico but to get in line for this so-called legal parole uh legalization
00:40:13.820
uh system that i've been talking about so what this is going to do in my opinion is it's going to uh
00:40:22.700
really inspire uh millions of people from around the world to get on the road as soon as possible to
00:40:30.420
get to get in line to start uh you know the processes of the so-called legalization uh and also to cross
00:40:39.400
the border illegally if they can't qualify for that thing uh i think that this is a mile marker in the
00:40:46.840
border crisis that it has just ramped this thing up to a place that is far beyond where if they just
00:40:54.320
simply eliminated title 42 uh because there are now multiple pathways they've tripled the number of
00:41:02.680
refugee admissions from latin america of all places meaning uh they're now going to allow start
00:41:09.520
legalizing people as refugees under the refugee program to fly into the united states these are legal
00:41:17.500
legal pathways they keep calling it legal pathways i keep telling you if you ever hear the word legal
00:41:24.120
pathways watch out uh that's what they did today and my orcas followed up with that uh and we are we
00:41:32.900
are looking at inviting the world in who of people who are not eligible to enter through the southern
00:41:40.560
border one more thing if i can add i know i've been going on for a minute but sure no no no it's
00:41:46.320
fantastic keep going this process of providing humanitarian pool while the border crosser is
00:41:54.460
still south of the border is not legal it's under it's being it's a it's a new parallel system that
00:42:04.580
they've created that is there is no authority for this thing there is no authority for this thing
00:42:11.740
uh there is litigation but this litigation is slow moving i don't see anything happening with that
00:42:17.280
with the litigation that would put a stop to this but eventually the supreme court is going to rule
00:42:23.600
that this whole thing was illegal that there was no authority to do this
00:42:27.800
we're in a historic and i think i'm getting right now from one of my crack producers here um
00:42:35.140
the 11th round has just started the nominations have just finished they're now into it
00:42:39.820
uh and i think from everything that we're hearing he will lose uh in this 11th round they're not
00:42:45.060
they're going to wait till they adjourn somehow to try to make these deals do you believe the
00:42:48.960
biden administration seeing how tough and how focused uh the uh i would say the hardcore the
00:42:57.040
maga movement these 20 and there's obviously many many more in the back of that and they've seen the
00:43:01.880
overwhelming support they've gotten from the american people and one of the issues they keep talking
00:43:05.880
about every time they nominate somebody is the southern border the invasion of the southern
00:43:10.260
border do you think the biden administration is doing some of these things to get ahead
00:43:14.000
of the republican in the maga takeover of the house of representatives sir
00:43:18.440
i think that the biden administration is implementing these new processes and and projects
00:43:27.360
in order to prevent another del rio migrant crisis under the bridge scenario they're the goal is not
00:43:36.120
to block and stop and deter the goal is to bring in as many as possible in what they say is a
00:43:44.860
orderly legal humane manner that's all they care about uh this new thing that they're talking about
00:43:53.200
the the legalization of people while they're still south of the border uh that is actually illegal
00:44:00.240
that is going to reduce the numbers on paper of illegal border crossers but it is going to increase
00:44:08.000
the total number of people that are being brought in most of them are going to fly in on airplanes
00:44:14.260
into the interior airports so you never see it uh that is what the what the president just said
00:44:23.060
today in his in his press conference that we're going to put all of our onus on that we're going
00:44:29.200
to drive people into this legalization this legalized pathway and then they won't be illegal anymore
00:44:36.260
so it's just the whole thing is just misdirection i i hope nobody mistakes that for an actual solution
00:44:43.540
and it certainly is a parallel immigration system that completely skirts congressional statutes
00:44:52.840
totally skirts all of the laws that are in place to block stop and deter these millions and millions
00:45:02.560
of people that are about to cross and have already crossed but they've taken away our ability to shut it
00:45:08.620
down today this afternoon with the appropriations a zero but there is an appropriation bill that has
00:45:13.560
to be approved for september 30th of this year october 1st do you believe as you sit here today given
00:45:20.360
your experience that within congress we have the tools to be able to stop this we just don't have
00:45:26.060
to rely upon the courts do we have the authority in the statutes that have been written and passed as law
00:45:31.920
and the ability to fund this or defund it and to investigate and to impeach and remove officials
00:45:38.500
that won't follow the law in those three areas does todd bensman believe and if todd bensman was some
00:45:43.860
sort of advisor to a house committee that this could be stopped sir i think that the house will
00:45:51.620
has it within its authority to uh tighten up purse strings to block uh to to attempt to block
00:46:00.500
uh approval of funding for dhs operations they can try it i don't know if it's going to work we've
00:46:08.780
seen we've seen this happen before and it didn't work in the past uh but i believe that they will
00:46:15.040
probably hold it it didn't it didn't it didn't work because they blinked if you had the i'm saying
00:46:20.960
if you had the political will because this is what this fight up here right now it's not just about a
00:46:25.600
rules package not about this it's about who has the ability to stand in the breach and to fight
00:46:30.480
if biden's going to shut the government down because of some of these appropriations then god
00:46:33.900
bless you gonna shut the government down but we're going to have brink in the ship and we're going to
00:46:37.260
have it on a number of issues one of the central issue the one the debt ceiling and the spending but
00:46:42.100
that's also tied to the invasion of the southern border the sovereignty issue right now is we're losing
00:46:46.980
our sovereignty we're going to lose our sovereignty to the capital markets very quickly we're going to
00:46:52.040
spend a trillion dollars a year in interest payments on this debt a trillion dollars a year
00:46:56.320
cash money in interest payments the other attack on our sovereignty is the southern border so if you're
00:47:02.340
not prepared to to do those and do brinkmanship and not blink before when he said to do it the
00:47:08.260
tight and purse strings everybody at the end of the day will wave off they don't want to have the
00:47:12.480
hard conversations they don't want to be criticized in the new york times they don't want to be criticized
00:47:15.960
on uh on msmc or cnn right as bad people or tough people or evil people the problem is we haven't
00:47:23.720
had the stones to see it through to its logical conclusion is is that essentially what the issue
00:47:29.860
has been yes i think that there is a momentum and an interest uh in segments of the uh new congress
00:47:39.040
on the on the house side to use this the power of the purse to leverage border uh reforms uh actually
00:47:47.380
just to follow the the law um and to stop some of these things these crazy things that are happening
00:47:53.060
uh and if there is the will to follow it through it can be effective uh the question is is is there the
00:48:01.660
will i know that there is in in in certain parts of the freedom caucus i talked to those people i don't
00:48:08.000
know if uh mccarthy is going to have the will or whoever ends up as the speaker uh or whoever else
00:48:14.620
is going to to not blink but i think they're going to try it at least oh and one other thing is how do
00:48:21.940
people but go ahead go ahead i was just going to say you asked about whether they're that they would do
00:48:27.500
the investigations and yes and those those are crucial they need to be done they have to have hearings
00:48:33.980
we need to understand uh haul people up in front of the the uh panels and have them explain what they
00:48:42.400
did what they knew and when they knew it uh on on many many uh policies that they put in place that
00:48:49.260
created this totally parallel immigration system that lets everybody in past the statutes
00:48:56.360
is biden's trip to the border purely performative sir just for the optics
00:49:02.600
man i don't know what he's thinking uh i'm guessing that he needs to buy off the mexican president
00:49:11.300
to take back some of these uh 42 pushbacks to take back more i noticed that part of the
00:49:18.480
the package was a lot more money in security assistance and humanitarian aid uh that's the polar
00:49:28.160
opposite of the way the last administration did it which was all stick and the stick worked wonders
00:49:35.760
the mexican government did everything that that president wanted done uh this president is going
00:49:43.680
down there with money again uh so you know i'm not impressed by that i don't think that works
00:49:50.300
last question before we go uh donald trump said today when he takes office again in january 20th
00:49:57.060
2025 he's going to immediately go to a war a kinetic war with the cartels is that smart uh sir
00:50:04.280
yes a kinetic war is necessary and i'm talking about a military use of force against some of the labs
00:50:16.360
that are producing meth and fentanyl we know where those labs are the current president is not going to
00:50:25.320
sign off on this uh they are all about hugs not bullets but i think it's within the right of the
00:50:31.480
united states like it was when we battled fark in columbia and in the the jungles down there we had
00:50:39.060
military men and women on the ground yeah in choppers todd i want to i want to bring you back to mark
00:50:47.340
because we're out of time real quickly how did it get to you they got to follow you on social media
00:50:50.400
how they get to you and your writings yeah bensman todd at twitter now and t bensman at getter
00:50:56.720
i'm also on truth social you can follow me on all those places i just returned from mexico
00:51:02.240
eight days down there and i have a lot to report coming up fine we're gonna have you back on todd
00:51:09.140
bensman you're a patriot and a hero okay uh reporting uh uh mccarthy just lost the 11th ballot they're gonna
00:51:15.780
be deal making tonight we'll be up on getter talking about back at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning
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