Bannon's War Room - Battleground EP 206： The Battle For Speaker; War Against The Cartel In Mexico

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:16.880 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:23.860 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:29.780 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:34.540 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:38.820 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground

00:00:45.120 here's your host stephen k bannon

00:00:47.640 and i think there's some discussion of what's going to happen next we're very honored

00:01:00.420 to have as our first guest tonight congressman troy nels from the great state of texas uh congressman

00:01:07.400 nels you're actually major nels you're a retiree uh arm army reserve and you were also the sheriff

00:01:13.300 down there in a couple locations but in fort ben county texas tell us about that tell us a little

00:01:19.640 bit about yourself before we get into asking some questions

00:01:22.120 sheriff my father was a sheriff in dodge county wisconsin i have an older brother that became

00:01:29.940 a sheriff the sheriff in dodge county wisconsin and then i have an identical twin brother

00:01:35.160 we moved on to texas and eventually i rose through the ranks and became the sheriff of fort

00:01:40.240 main county texas which is a suburb of houston just outside of harris county i had a large county

00:01:45.540 826 employees so i spent 30 years in law enforcement i was the sheriff for eight years

00:01:50.380 and i enjoyed it but i have to tell you steve i don't know if i'd all want to start all over again

00:01:55.320 very difficult occupation very difficult profession today

00:01:59.040 congressman biden has announced they're going to go down to texas he's actually going to go to the

00:02:07.600 border someone that was in law

00:02:10.240 walk us through the pressures just out of law enforcement what has since the biden administration

00:02:16.040 i called the biden regime has come into office with this massive uh illegal alien essentially 0.71

00:02:21.080 invasion of a country how how has that affected law enforcement how has affected the citizens

00:02:25.940 down in fort ben well you know i'm about four hours north of the the southern border and i had

00:02:33.440 my uh residents of fort ben county become victims of crime from illegal aliens that have entered this 0.98

00:02:41.500 country i can recall a senior woman that was struck and killed by a car uh in my county obviously the

00:02:49.300 individual uh fled from the scene we apprehended him and once we arrested him we discovered that this

00:02:57.180 individual has been deported eight previous times think about that he's been deported eight times

00:03:04.780 how the hell did he get back into this country so quickly 0.99

00:03:07.640 so i we have a we have a southern border problem we have an immigration law or lack thereof we've got

00:03:14.380 problems in our southern border they must be addressed so now joe biden's going down there to think that

00:03:21.440 he's going to accomplish something if you want to accomplish something joe biden what you do is close your

00:03:28.600 mouth close your mouth and reinstitute all of uh institute all of donald trump's policies because

00:03:35.640 under donald trump it was the most secure border in four decades

00:03:38.320 congressman now does law enforcement think that the uh that the forget the state government they think

00:03:46.000 the federal government's got their back when it comes to enforcing uh the law and bringing criminals

00:03:51.040 getting criminals away from victimizing individuals particularly the minority community the hispanic and

00:03:56.520 the african american community does law enforcement uh officers the front line do they think that the

00:04:02.100 federal government has their back well when you look at what's taking place in the great state of

00:04:07.620 texas obviously we have hundreds of miles of the border in the great state of texas and what is our state

00:04:13.100 legislature and our state government done uh you obviously have governor greg abbott that is augmenting the

00:04:19.640 border patrol he's augmenting the border patrol with the department of public safety and the texas

00:04:25.000 national guard because obviously the border patrol is spread so thin and we have an a crisis at our

00:04:31.700 southern border the problem i have with that is i applaud the efforts but the problem i have with

00:04:36.500 that is it's not the state of texas who's responsibility it's the federal government's

00:04:40.860 responsibility specifically congress to secure our southern border so the texas taxpayers are paying

00:04:47.900 for national guard soldiers to be there and the department of public safety up to the upwards of

00:04:53.960 almost a billion dollars a year and it's not our responsibility so i understand why greg abbott's

00:04:59.940 doing it but it shouldn't be required it should be done at the by the federal government and congress

00:05:06.400 and so i i don't joe biden listen send your borders are down there what has she done for the southern 0.96

00:05:14.020 border and when you got a guy named mayorkas your dhs secretary that will look at the american people

00:05:20.300 in the camera and say that the southern border is secure he's lying to the american people and he

00:05:27.220 should be impeached congressman you're an army major right and you're a sheriff i've spent a career

00:05:35.840 in law enforcement why would a man of action run for congress what what what motivated you to do it and

00:05:42.600 what did you hope to accomplish because you don't really think of of congress as a place for

00:05:47.860 somebody that's out there in kind of the front lines is somebody that

00:05:52.260 why did you do it and what did you hope to accomplish well it was the southern border steve it's a great

00:06:00.060 question you know i was ready to retire i mean i had 30 years into this thing but when i looked at

00:06:05.580 what was taking place at our southern border not only that story i shared with you about that elderly

00:06:10.960 woman that was killed by an illegal immigrant who was deported a previous time we also had large 1.00

00:06:16.780 amounts of gangs colombian gangs and others that were breaking into homes resident residential homes

00:06:22.640 and committing burglaries so i saw that there was a significant problem with individuals entering our

00:06:29.460 country oh and by the way the burglars that we apprehended there were like a gang of 17 several of

00:06:36.160 those knuckleheads have been deported from our country more than one time so i knew that we had 1.00

00:06:42.140 a problem here and i said to myself i'm going to do what i can to protect this nation to put the

00:06:48.520 american people first and secure our southern border and that's what i'm trying to do i'm fighting for it

00:06:53.800 each and every day in washington dc president trump just tweeted out today actually thinking put out

00:07:00.240 more of a of a of a policy thing he said upon his re-election he will actually declare essentially war

00:07:07.040 on the on the cartels and he wants military action or paramilitary action to really take the fight to the

00:07:14.000 cartels even if that means and applies even it means going into mexico do you as someone from law

00:07:19.440 enforcement that had to deal with this every day you agree with that i love the idea i think donald

00:07:25.360 trump what he's trying to do is he's trying to protect the american people and right now we need

00:07:30.220 to declare war on the cartels certainly if anybody that is awake and understands we are losing thousands

00:07:37.440 of people in this country to the fentanyl crisis if you help secure the southern border we could lose

00:07:43.320 less lives we will have we won't have the amount of fentanyl reaching the american people not only

00:07:49.300 in texas that are in the southern states but this fentanyl crisis is reaching every american family

00:07:54.480 across the entire country so i understand what donald trump is saying by we need to take the fight

00:08:00.240 to the cartels we need to work something out with the mexican government and say let me tell you

00:08:05.420 something in my opinion if we're not violating any treaties or any international law we need to identify

00:08:11.180 who these individuals are these these terrorists quite honestly these drug pushers and we need to take

00:08:18.020 them out we need to eliminate them eliminate them from the face of the earth because right now

00:08:24.660 they control the cartels control our southern border we need to take the fight to them and we need to

00:08:30.680 eliminate them off the face of the earth

00:08:32.480 congressman when you shifted from 30 years in law enforcement and down in fort ben and you ran for

00:08:39.880 office what are the one or two things not what you promised but what you heard from your constituents

00:08:44.960 what were the one or two they wanted you to focus on when you went to washington dc

00:08:51.320 well obviously when i was campaigning i had a very difficult primary a lot of individuals i clobbered

00:08:58.400 them all you don't want to get you don't want to run against a pot you know a popular sheriff but i made

00:09:04.300 a commitment to the people in my district that we will fight this swamp that there's an establishment

00:09:09.780 swamp up here when trump described described this as a swamp he was right i've experienced it now

00:09:15.620 for two years i said i'm going to fight this swamp we have to reduce spending we have to get our

00:09:21.200 southern border under control we have to put the american people first and that's why i joined the 0.76

00:09:27.300 freedom caucus i love what they stand for they're america first patriots and that's who i am and i put the

00:09:34.140 american people first in the decisions that i make up here each and every day so i think they're very

00:09:39.840 pleased quite honestly steve with my performance and what i've done over the first two years because

00:09:45.920 i was very very successful in the primary and i overperformed in the general election as well

00:09:52.220 congressman the freedom caucus is now on the tip of everybody's tongue even people that don't pay

00:09:59.480 close attention to politics because the situation we're gonna get into this now um and and i realize

00:10:04.500 that some of your colleagues and closest associates that are part of the group that are either working

00:10:09.660 for forums or some of them just say hey look i don't trust mccarthy i'm not going to get there

00:10:13.300 but in the freedom caucus itself is it appropriate to call the

00:10:16.860 sir i'm sorry i you you cut out there for a bit steve i'm sorry

00:10:23.860 there there are a lot of commentators particularly on msnbc and cnn are referring to the freedom

00:10:30.740 caucus not just the the parts of the freedom caucus that are in the 20 that are uh you know

00:10:36.360 either negotiating a package with mccarthy or fighting mccarthy not voting for him but they're

00:10:40.740 calling the entire freedom caucus a collection of extremists uh is that in your mind a true statement

00:10:47.040 i tell you when you look at me steve you're looking at me i served in law enforcement for 30 years

00:10:53.760 i lost friends in combat in afghanistan i was i was in the military for 21 retired as a major

00:11:00.320 went to iraq afghanistan i did all that do i look like an extremist i was willing i was willing steve

00:11:08.000 to risk my life and lay down my life in service to this country so those organizations well it's

00:11:14.820 whether it's mslsd or cnn or some of those other fake news networks want to say that i'm an extremist

00:11:22.400 i want you to say that to my face because i would say shame on you i was willing to lay down my life

00:11:29.520 in service to this country and i've done it for two and three decades so you're out of bounds you're

00:11:35.480 out of bounds for for accusing me or looking at me as some type of an extremist we have many members

00:11:42.580 in the freedom caucus and they're very principled people now we may not necessarily agree on this

00:11:48.340 i don't think this is the the battle that we should be waging i think the real war starts

00:11:55.380 as it comes to policy and legislation when we get our speaker and our people set but i i just i take

00:12:03.060 offense to that and they should be shamed it's shameful that they would call individuals like me

00:12:08.660 and other members extremists it's unfortunate right before i go to that i gotta ask you when

00:12:16.100 you're overseas in combat and and with your uh your comrades and and your colleagues and and men and

00:12:22.160 women giving uh becoming uh casualties and and some getting killed uh and some having ptsd when they got

00:12:29.380 back and committing suicide when you were there at the time did you have any earthly idea when you

00:12:34.860 would get to if you were ever to get to congress that the city and the swamp would run like it was

00:12:41.580 you were there fighting for your country uh fighting for democracy fighting for all that was there any

00:12:46.960 conception of how corrupt uh the washington dc is well you know when i was a sheriff i know i'm not

00:12:55.140 30 years old or 40 years old either steve i've been around the block a few times i would come up to the

00:13:00.760 city of washington dc for uh the national sheriff's association we had a midwinter conference up here

00:13:07.580 every uh in the spring of every year and i would come up here and i would roll down the window in my

00:13:14.080 car and i would let my beautiful bride i would say baby you can smell the corruption you can smell the

00:13:20.780 corruption up here and it's unfortunate it's unfortunate that washington is where it is today

00:13:27.240 this has to change it has to change we need to change direction this place has to have some

00:13:35.540 strong leadership that puts the american people first i am one of very few that have never voted

00:13:42.620 and could not support giving ukraine billions of dollars and why am i not willing to support ukraine

00:13:49.940 i was there in august of 2021 i had an opportunity to visit the ukraine but i am not in favor of

00:13:57.080 giving ukraine taxpayer money upwards of over 100 billion dollars and now when we have all the

00:14:03.940 issues we face in america how about take some of that money and put it at our southern border

00:14:09.220 how about help some of the homelessness that we have here in the city of washington dc how about

00:14:14.700 helping some of those veterans that are suffering from ptsd so they don't take their lives and or the

00:14:20.760 lives of their family members before they take their own lives and i've also experienced that as a

00:14:26.480 share for fort pain county try to explain that one to relatives so we have all sorts of issues here

00:14:32.580 in this country and i'm the guy that says we got to put the american people first and that money

00:14:39.180 needs to be spent in this great country of ours to protect america to look out for america period

00:14:45.780 okay okay if if i had to take your profile a guy that served his country once for in in the army and

00:14:53.020 actually did deployments in combat then was in law enforcement for 30 years and was a popular sheriff

00:14:58.760 and then a sheriff at fort bent and popular enough to get so for the third time you're serving your

00:15:04.020 country going to congress and you're a little bit like mr smith goes to congress if i look at your

00:15:08.460 profile freedom caucus hey i'm a patriot and i'm a defense guy but i don't agree with the ukraine

00:15:14.500 situation i agree with the money your entire profile you would think that you would be one of

00:15:20.880 the uh resistance or whatever they call them the 20 why make the case and you're in your number one

00:15:29.260 thing in fact the reason you're not retired living on a ranch somewhere enjoying your retirement you're

00:15:34.980 actually back and giving of yourself again is because you want to take on the swamp make the case what

00:15:42.020 you seem like the perfect uh uh model that was supposed to be in the resistance why are you not

00:15:49.040 why are you supporting kevin mccarthy sir a great question steven i'm happy to answer that i have spoken

00:15:56.200 to some of my friends i have spoken to some of the 20 in the freedom caucus that are anti-mccarthy that

00:16:02.480 are an absolute no to mccarthy and i tried to explain to them i says fellas and guys and gals i'm trying

00:16:08.620 to understand this i know you don't want speaker mccarthy to be the leader but i number one you're

00:16:13.940 fighting 201 individuals over 200 in this conference that are going to say we don't want anybody else

00:16:20.580 other than leader mccarthy and all we are doing right now is delaying the ability for us to look

00:16:27.640 into the investigations of hunter biden whether we look in the mayorkas with the southern border

00:16:33.460 whether we look at christopher ray and garland who number one we need to have them in front of our

00:16:38.380 committees i just felt this is not the battle we should be waging because in my humble opinion

00:16:45.040 leader mccarthy understands we have 222 of us he'll need 218 to get any legislation across through the

00:16:54.120 house of representatives steve there's 35 to 40 of us in the freedom caucus 35 to 40 of us kevin

00:17:01.520 mccarthy understands that nothing will get through the house of representatives without the house

00:17:07.260 freedom caucus he's going to need our support and he's going to need our endorsement on legislation

00:17:12.520 and that is the time when we have policy and legislation that's these are the battles we should

00:17:18.100 be having when we have policy and legislation and we will move kevin mccarthy to the right because

00:17:23.700 if he doesn't move right nothing's going to pass the house or very little at all

00:17:28.240 on the look we have a set of investigations you know you've got the administrative state

00:17:33.860 you're law enforcement you know how out of control the fbi is you know how out of control the doj is

00:17:38.280 the administrative state you look at the debt ceiling you look at they've taken the gavel away

00:17:42.400 from mccarthy on this horrible omnibus bill do you believe this issue of trust comes up can you go back

00:17:50.160 because obviously you're an honorable guy and in in the people thought enough of you a sheriff to put

00:17:54.460 you in congress can you go back to your constitution and say hey look i trust this guy and when the time

00:18:00.060 gets tough i'm giving you my word that he's going to be tough enough to make sure that we don't just

00:18:05.400 get trillions of dollars in the debt ceiling we don't have another omnibus like the 1.7 trillion

00:18:09.600 that the investigations congressmen are not going to be like benghazi just performing there's going

00:18:14.260 to be real stuff that you're going to have a voice when it comes to ukraine and saying hey look

00:18:18.200 i'm a patriot i've served my country i serve in combat but i don't agree with what's going on here

00:18:23.040 do can you look your constituents in the eye and say hey this guy may not be perfect but this is the

00:18:28.600 guy sir i believe he can steven and this is a good example when i look at uh the uh government

00:18:35.820 oversight reform under representative comer i think he's going to be great he has done press conferences

00:18:41.480 he has said we need to look at hunter biden we need to look at his laptop laptop we know who the

00:18:47.440 big guy is i applaud his efforts to go after and look and have these investigations because i think

00:18:53.840 the american people are demanding answers and then you have representative jim jordan who's going to be

00:18:59.020 over judiciary which i hope i'm going to serve on and we can have those investigations as well as it

00:19:04.960 relates to the fbi comer as it relates or the fbi as as well as uh the uh the doj so no i believe that

00:19:14.820 there are great days ahead i believe that as the majority as the republican majority that we can get

00:19:21.080 answers to some of these questions fauci needs to be brought up in front of us and so i think leader

00:19:26.360 mccarthy speaker mccarthy who has a good team around him uh that we can do a lot of good service

00:19:34.040 uh to the conservative base as well as the republican party as a whole

00:19:38.020 do you believe last question do you believe that he will back up a real investigation of january 6th

00:19:45.720 do we get to the bottom of the information pelosi had the information dhs had how much involvement by

00:19:51.580 the fbi and dhs do we get a true accounting of what happened from soup to nuts on everything the

00:19:57.620 good and the bad that the nation gets a full accounting with public hearings on j6 do you believe

00:20:03.380 mccarthy would back people on that i certainly hope so and i would i would uh respectfully ask him to do

00:20:10.680 so because listen steve i was at the uh the dc gulag today i spent an hour and 15 minutes in there

00:20:17.120 i actually had an opportunity to talk to the 21 there are currently 21 j6 detainees inside the dc gulag

00:20:26.160 and many of them are there on pre-trial confinement state they haven't found filled they haven't found

00:20:31.840 found guilty of anything so i'm paying attention to this i know a little bit about january 6th i was

00:20:37.820 the last member to leave the house floor i wrote a book on january 6th that's been endorsed by donald

00:20:43.620 trump because this sham committee this benny thompson and liz cheney and all of them it's all about

00:20:50.340 donald trump the this sham committee was not about seeking truth into january 6th and how we can

00:20:57.360 prevent it from taking place again january 6th was a law enforcement failure and in the book it should

00:21:03.520 have never happened i lay it all out there in the book that's been endorsed by donald trump so no i

00:21:08.380 think we have some questions that need to be asked of the capitol police of the leadership team

00:21:13.680 nancy pelosi needs to come before us we have a lot of questions because right now january 6th should

00:21:19.620 have never happened it should have never happened and look at where we are today because they failed

00:21:24.940 to act the leadership failed to act on the intelligence that was glaring them in the face

00:21:30.440 weeks before january 6th and they did nothing with it they did nothing with it shameful that would

00:21:36.520 shameful that would be that would be a man that would be a massive national scandal if we get to

00:21:41.300 the bottom of it last question having been a sheriff and spent 30 years in law enforcement you just

00:21:45.200 call it a gulag i understand someone like you chooses your words carefully have you ever in your

00:21:50.440 career seen individuals held pre-trial for this length of time well they've been held is that not a

00:21:57.720 national scandal sir yeah the problem that they have is that these individuals obviously have been

00:22:04.140 charged with federal charges i told them when i was with them today i said you guys would have

00:22:08.140 rather had state charges because then you would be offered bail under the federal system you're either

00:22:12.920 offered you're either released or you're not there really is no bail system and and i told them all

00:22:18.160 inside there i said i'm going to do what i can i'm going to do what i can to help you they had several

00:22:22.980 complaints uh they were concerned about the grievance process their grievances won't be heard they were

00:22:29.020 concerned about the medical treatment that they were receiving and obviously religious services so

00:22:34.380 there are things that i want to do to try to help them with due process i think their violation their

00:22:40.660 rights of due process obviously is a concern of mine and and we need to pay some attention to them

00:22:46.140 and hopefully after we get our speaker elected kevin mccarthy will give me an opportunity to spend some

00:22:52.760 time in that area working maybe with jim jordan and the others on judiciary

00:22:57.020 uh congressman we'd look forward to having you back here what's your social media how can people

00:23:03.340 follow you and how they go to the website to find out more about you well the best way to do it i think

00:23:08.040 to see is is go to uh go to amazon go to amazon and look at the big fraud big fraud endorsed by

00:23:15.740 donald trump it talks about january 6th it's all truth this is truth there's two chapters about january

00:23:21.840 6th it talks about the sham committee it explains the timelines everybody wants to blame donald trump

00:23:27.940 for this donald trump is not at fault for january 6th folks that sham report that committee report

00:23:36.640 800 pages or so has donald trump's listed his name 4 000 times how many times was ray epp's name

00:23:43.680 listed in that report a fat goose egg zero so you know that we're not about seeking the truth

00:23:49.620 my book is all about the truth that's why it's doing very well on amazon it's called the big fraud

00:23:55.020 google me troy nails yeah troy nails you'll see me i'm a i'm an america first patriot

00:24:00.700 congressman we will push the book we'll make sure you get it up thank you very much for sending as

00:24:05.940 much time as you did today appreciate it thank you steve you're a great american god bless

00:24:09.940 well we try sir thank you very much i'll tell you what i've got todd bensman is big breaking news

00:24:15.580 in the border but i also have dc drano uh dc drano uh thank you uh for joining us as uh sir

00:24:21.660 do we have uh rogan o'hanley yes sir it's always we've got about two minutes here there's been a

00:24:30.520 lot of going back and forth with deals today you've been a little hot on twitter give us an update

00:24:36.140 right now i think they're actually getting ready for round 11 ballot 11 they're making the uh the

00:24:42.040 introductory uh nomination speeches right now what are you hearing with all your sources uh dc about

00:24:48.480 what's going on what's the horse trading that's going on right now i'm hearing that mccarthy is

00:24:53.720 making a lot of concessions i can't get into details but uh the concessions he's making i will

00:25:00.600 you know disclose at some point uh but it's it's insane that he was even holding back on some of these

00:25:07.860 things and you know i i'm not a member of congress i can only speak as a member of the

00:25:13.740 the maga base and a lot of us just don't trust mccarthy you know part of the concessions needs

00:25:20.360 to be that he is not the speaker and we got 221 other members of congress jim jordan would be

00:25:28.300 fantastic byron donald would be great so anyone but mccarthy but uh if if we are going to end up

00:25:35.620 with mccarthy i do think that we have won a massive moral victory and proven to the entire dc swamp

00:25:42.360 that nothing gets done without the freedom caucus without the people's vote so that is

00:25:47.240 somewhat reassuring but i'm still anti mccarthy dc drano hang on for a second because i've got

00:25:54.320 todd bensman i've got you i want to take a break i want to come back there's some activity up on the

00:25:58.340 hill right now there's been another historic day i think they're into around 11 we have rogan o'hanley

00:26:04.080 uh he knows the inside scoop i think what he's saying it's boiling down to and i think this is the

00:26:09.520 case is that there there looks like a massive reform package has been brought about by by the

00:26:14.980 freedom caucus and others been negotiating the question is can anybody trust him and i think

00:26:20.320 it's going to get down to that i think rogan nailed it but i want to talk about this reform

00:26:23.400 regardless of what happens here the game has changed the swamp has been changed for this process

00:26:31.380 just in the last 72 hours also todd bensman joe biden has finally said he's going to go to the border

00:26:36.800 there's a lot going on that really has not been focused on in the last couple days because the

00:26:41.420 intensity on capitol hill but remember the intensity on capitol hill one of the big things is the

00:26:46.220 invasion on the southern border and the people feel that that uh that mccarthy has the titanium steel

00:26:53.800 you're going to need not just to build a wall but to stop the invasion short commercial break todd

00:26:58.260 benson from cis rogan o'hanley dc drano one of the top influencers in the mega movement next

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00:30:32.220 war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:30:38.080 okay welcome back as we went to break uh matt gates republican from florida put into nomination

00:30:47.680 a donald j trump to be speaker of the house we're gonna get to that hopefully pull that in a second

00:30:51.960 memphis will let me know when that's ready rogan how does that change your attitude trump has now

00:30:56.600 uh put an official nomination uh for speaker is he the best compromise candidate here sir

00:31:02.220 well it's a dream of a lot of us i was on your show talking about this in january 2021

00:31:09.920 i think it would energize the base i think it would uh you know i i i i talk about how people think we're

00:31:17.540 upset that congress isn't moving this is the best uh news we've gotten in two plus years every time

00:31:24.160 congress moves our dollar is worth less our border is more open and more money goes overseas so

00:31:30.060 anything is better than what was happening and you know i think trump no no no no this is this

00:31:35.640 hold on hold it i want to say something this is kismet this is actual dharma when i was talking this i

00:31:42.600 would talk behind the scenes with people all the time sir you were the first one to put it out i think

00:31:47.260 you tweeted it out and that's why i said hey we gotta get dc drena on the show we could we had you on 0.90

00:31:52.000 the show that day i think it was a year and a half almost two years ago you were the very first guy i

00:31:56.420 think that actually ever went out there i i took as much credit for it as possible obviously but no

00:32:01.700 that is why it's so ironic in the very moment this was not set up in the very moment that matt gates

00:32:08.360 nominates trump rogan o'hanley dc drena one of the top influencers put this out there to talk about

00:32:15.140 and remember some people took it seriously i took it very seriously in fact i told i said look

00:32:19.200 if he had gotten focused and committed to this on monday night he would have won in the first round

00:32:24.720 we wouldn't have gone through any of this stuff and he would agree to the reform package in fact

00:32:27.980 rogan he would have sat there and go are you kidding me this is the way the place has been

00:32:31.640 run before we're not going to do that he would done is there anybody in your mind on a serious

00:32:36.380 given where we are right now given the debt ceiling negotiations that the the massive spending package

00:32:42.320 that we got to somehow defeat uh the southern border uh ukraine uh the the investigations into

00:32:48.720 the fbi and and the joint committee on weaponization of government is anybody better at least for a

00:32:53.660 hundred days and maybe more than donald j trump to step in here sir no he he's the number one he's he can

00:33:01.800 make a phone call and get anything done that needs to get done he knows all the players he knows the good

00:33:07.540 guys he knows the bad guys he knows the money people and he's going to be running in 2024 everyone's

00:33:12.960 going to be walking on eggshells to make sure they do the right thing can you imagine him running

00:33:17.180 the january 6 investigations it it needs to happen

00:33:21.940 i think this is i think it's absolutely amazing uh dc drano i know you can't talk about a lot of

00:33:30.080 what's going on behind the scenes but do you believe given the lack of trust even with this package

00:33:35.020 and you said it best uh the maga movement in the house freedom caucus and other associated people

00:33:40.540 like lauren boebert have moved this thing so far so far to the right where it was not and even 0.83

00:33:46.060 an exercise in uh in good government right but do you believe there's too much lack of trust by the

00:33:52.920 core of this 20 that mccarthy's just never going to be speaker i unfortunately think there's still

00:34:00.400 a chance that mccarthy can be speaker because when it comes down to it

00:34:05.020 power uh is power and he unfortunately has a lot of it but i do think this has sent shockwaves

00:34:13.160 through the system and i really want a different speaker i cannot trust this guy he was on a book

00:34:20.600 cover with paul ryan and eric kantor he wore the ukraine flag that you know what tucker carlson called

00:34:27.740 him out on the ukraine flag pin last night and he's not even wearing a u.s flag pin today right

00:34:33.780 that's just that you know maybe if we were sending money to americans he'd wear the u.s flag pin i mean

00:34:40.580 i don't know what it takes so i do not trust the guy whatsoever he's a swamp rat pretending to be a 0.98

00:34:46.940 chameleon for the maga base but uh in the end no matter what i am confident that the power of the

00:34:54.440 freedom caucus has been made very clear and nothing will get done without their consent

00:34:59.340 regardless of who is the speaker rogan how do people follow you on social media and uh in all

00:35:05.960 of it because you're one of the most important influencers in maga well i i think uh you know

00:35:12.060 i'm just just contributing here as much the war room i think is what's really moving the needle on

00:35:17.560 any given issue but you can find me dc underscore drano stands for draining the dc swamp we're

00:35:23.480 watching it right now i know you don't like the phrase as much but uh you know it's a beautiful

00:35:28.080 thing to watch it happen in real time this is the fight that the american people have wanted for a

00:35:33.440 long time it's very gratifying amen brother thank you very much dc drano a young man who really

00:35:42.100 came up with the idea two years ago talk about the irony at the very moment he's on the war room

00:35:47.560 is exactly when matt gates puts trump a name in nomination on something that rogan and hanley

00:35:52.520 thought of a couple of years ago and that we championed um in fact i say i steal i stole the

00:35:58.200 idea from rogan so i'm stealing it fair and square 202-225-3121 is the number we want your voice

00:36:05.240 to be heard if you support mccarthy support mccarthy call tell your congressman tell him you support

00:36:11.000 him if you want change and you don't support mccarthy call and say what you support what you

00:36:16.080 support first of is not mccarthy give them your ideas but make sure that your voice is heard do

00:36:21.080 not be silent this time there's been a massive exercise and it's not going to stop it's not

00:36:25.220 going to stop tonight uh even with this deal they're putting on the table but make sure that

00:36:29.880 your voice is heard because quite frankly much of this is because of this audience right in

00:36:35.400 particularly the debt ceiling and things like that uh do i still have todd bensman can i get todd

00:36:39.520 bensman up todd bensman of cis um todd i think by the way todd bensman of cis can i i want to do one

00:36:46.460 thing right and getting trot up i want to play i think we got the matt gates clip uh ready let's go

00:36:51.880 ahead and play the matt gates clip gentleman from florida rides to place a name in nomination for

00:36:57.160 the position of speaker of the house the gentleman is recognized my friends when donald trump was

00:37:02.900 president taxes were cut regulations were slashed energy was abundant wages were rising capital was

00:37:12.260 returning from overseas to fund the dreams and ambitions of our fellow americans and the economy

00:37:18.580 was roaring what a contrast to what we have seen from this administration now and so i rise to

00:37:26.120 nominate donald trump for the position of speaker of the house

00:37:32.900 okay that's uh that is uh matt gates pretty historic moment um by the way i think i misspoke

00:37:38.280 the john quincy adams was not speaker john quincy adams after the presidency and this is the

00:37:42.680 controversial one that he stole from andrew jackson went back was in the house afterwards so donald trump

00:37:48.380 had had as many votes i think as just as a member of the house not a speaker john adams actually got

00:37:54.040 two votes to be speaker trump is tied with that at least before this next round i want to bring in

00:37:59.140 todd bensman todd there's a lot going on and so much of what's happening right now on the speakership

00:38:03.080 as you know is tied to the issues that you deal with the southern border now first thing i got to

00:38:08.560 get because we haven't time to cover it joe biden is actually headed to the border in texas your

00:38:13.840 favorite place is this purely performative um uh todd and they made a bunch of announcements of 30 000

00:38:20.960 what a day and what they're going to let in or total walk us through all these changes that they're

00:38:25.820 talking about and joe biden's now feels like he's being forced to go to the southern border to act

00:38:30.840 tough sir so today joe biden announced to the entire world that everybody is welcome to enter the united

00:38:40.620 states at its southern border through extra legal processes that i have reported already they call

00:38:48.500 legal pathways uh they're actually illegal pathways uh where the illegal immigrants or people who are

00:38:56.480 intending to cross the border illegally are now going to be given a legal way while they're still in

00:39:03.100 mexico or uh somewhere else in latin america to then be escorted into the united states legally so that

00:39:12.680 they're not called illegal immigrants anymore they're expanding that pathway last month i reported

00:39:19.520 agnosium about this program this legal escort handoff program i don't know what to call it nobody's

00:39:27.280 got a name for it uh that's already been in place from tijuana to matamorris they've been letting in

00:39:33.820 tens of thousands already through the who were going to cross the border illegally by legalizing them

00:39:40.880 first under humanitarian parole the president told the entire world today that they were going to

00:39:48.860 uh have access to that program all over latin america and also at the u.s southern border uh that the

00:39:58.000 people that crossed the southern border would be pushed back under title 42 from four country four new

00:40:04.440 countries but not to stay in mexico but to get in line for this so-called legal parole uh legalization

00:40:13.820 uh system that i've been talking about so what this is going to do in my opinion is it's going to uh

00:40:22.700 really inspire uh millions of people from around the world to get on the road as soon as possible to

00:40:30.420 get to get in line to start uh you know the processes of the so-called legalization uh and also to cross

00:40:39.400 the border illegally if they can't qualify for that thing uh i think that this is a mile marker in the

00:40:46.840 border crisis that it has just ramped this thing up to a place that is far beyond where if they just

00:40:54.320 simply eliminated title 42 uh because there are now multiple pathways they've tripled the number of

00:41:02.680 refugee admissions from latin america of all places meaning uh they're now going to allow start

00:41:09.520 legalizing people as refugees under the refugee program to fly into the united states these are legal

00:41:17.500 legal pathways they keep calling it legal pathways i keep telling you if you ever hear the word legal

00:41:24.120 pathways watch out uh that's what they did today and my orcas followed up with that uh and we are we

00:41:32.900 are looking at inviting the world in who of people who are not eligible to enter through the southern

00:41:40.560 border one more thing if i can add i know i've been going on for a minute but sure no no no it's

00:41:46.320 fantastic keep going this process of providing humanitarian pool while the border crosser is 1.00

00:41:54.460 still south of the border is not legal it's under it's being it's a it's a new parallel system that

00:42:04.580 they've created that is there is no authority for this thing there is no authority for this thing

00:42:11.740 uh there is litigation but this litigation is slow moving i don't see anything happening with that

00:42:17.280 with the litigation that would put a stop to this but eventually the supreme court is going to rule

00:42:23.600 that this whole thing was illegal that there was no authority to do this

00:42:27.800 we're in a historic and i think i'm getting right now from one of my crack producers here um

00:42:35.140 the 11th round has just started the nominations have just finished they're now into it

00:42:39.820 uh and i think from everything that we're hearing he will lose uh in this 11th round they're not

00:42:45.060 they're going to wait till they adjourn somehow to try to make these deals do you believe the

00:42:48.960 biden administration seeing how tough and how focused uh the uh i would say the hardcore the

00:42:57.040 maga movement these 20 and there's obviously many many more in the back of that and they've seen the

00:43:01.880 overwhelming support they've gotten from the american people and one of the issues they keep talking

00:43:05.880 about every time they nominate somebody is the southern border the invasion of the southern

00:43:10.260 border do you think the biden administration is doing some of these things to get ahead

00:43:14.000 of the republican in the maga takeover of the house of representatives sir

00:43:18.440 i think that the biden administration is implementing these new processes and and projects

00:43:27.360 in order to prevent another del rio migrant crisis under the bridge scenario they're the goal is not

00:43:36.120 to block and stop and deter the goal is to bring in as many as possible in what they say is a 0.95

00:43:44.860 orderly legal humane manner that's all they care about uh this new thing that they're talking about

00:43:53.200 the the legalization of people while they're still south of the border uh that is actually illegal

00:44:00.240 that is going to reduce the numbers on paper of illegal border crossers but it is going to increase

00:44:08.000 the total number of people that are being brought in most of them are going to fly in on airplanes

00:44:14.260 into the interior airports so you never see it uh that is what the what the president just said

00:44:23.060 today in his in his press conference that we're going to put all of our onus on that we're going

00:44:29.200 to drive people into this legalization this legalized pathway and then they won't be illegal anymore

00:44:36.260 so it's just the whole thing is just misdirection i i hope nobody mistakes that for an actual solution

00:44:43.540 and it certainly is a parallel immigration system that completely skirts congressional statutes

00:44:52.840 totally skirts all of the laws that are in place to block stop and deter these millions and millions

00:45:02.560 of people that are about to cross and have already crossed but they've taken away our ability to shut it

00:45:08.620 down today this afternoon with the appropriations a zero but there is an appropriation bill that has

00:45:13.560 to be approved for september 30th of this year october 1st do you believe as you sit here today given

00:45:20.360 your experience that within congress we have the tools to be able to stop this we just don't have

00:45:26.060 to rely upon the courts do we have the authority in the statutes that have been written and passed as law

00:45:31.920 and the ability to fund this or defund it and to investigate and to impeach and remove officials

00:45:38.500 that won't follow the law in those three areas does todd bensman believe and if todd bensman was some

00:45:43.860 sort of advisor to a house committee that this could be stopped sir i think that the house will

00:45:51.620 has it within its authority to uh tighten up purse strings to block uh to to attempt to block

00:46:00.500 uh approval of funding for dhs operations they can try it i don't know if it's going to work we've

00:46:08.780 seen we've seen this happen before and it didn't work in the past uh but i believe that they will

00:46:15.040 probably hold it it didn't it didn't it didn't work because they blinked if you had the i'm saying

00:46:20.960 if you had the political will because this is what this fight up here right now it's not just about a

00:46:25.600 rules package not about this it's about who has the ability to stand in the breach and to fight

00:46:30.480 if biden's going to shut the government down because of some of these appropriations then god

00:46:33.900 bless you gonna shut the government down but we're going to have brink in the ship and we're going to

00:46:37.260 have it on a number of issues one of the central issue the one the debt ceiling and the spending but

00:46:42.100 that's also tied to the invasion of the southern border the sovereignty issue right now is we're losing

00:46:46.980 our sovereignty we're going to lose our sovereignty to the capital markets very quickly we're going to

00:46:52.040 spend a trillion dollars a year in interest payments on this debt a trillion dollars a year

00:46:56.320 cash money in interest payments the other attack on our sovereignty is the southern border so if you're

00:47:02.340 not prepared to to do those and do brinkmanship and not blink before when he said to do it the

00:47:08.260 tight and purse strings everybody at the end of the day will wave off they don't want to have the

00:47:12.480 hard conversations they don't want to be criticized in the new york times they don't want to be criticized

00:47:15.960 on uh on msmc or cnn right as bad people or tough people or evil people the problem is we haven't

00:47:23.720 had the stones to see it through to its logical conclusion is is that essentially what the issue

00:47:29.860 has been yes i think that there is a momentum and an interest uh in segments of the uh new congress

00:47:39.040 on the on the house side to use this the power of the purse to leverage border uh reforms uh actually 0.52

00:47:47.380 just to follow the the law um and to stop some of these things these crazy things that are happening

00:47:53.060 uh and if there is the will to follow it through it can be effective uh the question is is is there the

00:48:01.660 will i know that there is in in in certain parts of the freedom caucus i talked to those people i don't

00:48:08.000 know if uh mccarthy is going to have the will or whoever ends up as the speaker uh or whoever else

00:48:14.620 is going to to not blink but i think they're going to try it at least oh and one other thing is how do

00:48:21.940 people but go ahead go ahead i was just going to say you asked about whether they're that they would do

00:48:27.500 the investigations and yes and those those are crucial they need to be done they have to have hearings

00:48:33.980 we need to understand uh haul people up in front of the the uh panels and have them explain what they

00:48:42.400 did what they knew and when they knew it uh on on many many uh policies that they put in place that

00:48:49.260 created this totally parallel immigration system that lets everybody in past the statutes

00:48:56.360 is biden's trip to the border purely performative sir just for the optics

00:49:02.600 man i don't know what he's thinking uh i'm guessing that he needs to buy off the mexican president 0.99

00:49:11.300 to take back some of these uh 42 pushbacks to take back more i noticed that part of the

00:49:18.480 the package was a lot more money in security assistance and humanitarian aid uh that's the polar

00:49:28.160 opposite of the way the last administration did it which was all stick and the stick worked wonders

00:49:35.760 the mexican government did everything that that president wanted done uh this president is going

00:49:43.680 down there with money again uh so you know i'm not impressed by that i don't think that works

00:49:50.300 last question before we go uh donald trump said today when he takes office again in january 20th

00:49:57.060 2025 he's going to immediately go to a war a kinetic war with the cartels is that smart uh sir

00:50:04.280 yes a kinetic war is necessary and i'm talking about a military use of force against some of the labs

00:50:16.360 that are producing meth and fentanyl we know where those labs are the current president is not going to

00:50:25.320 sign off on this uh they are all about hugs not bullets but i think it's within the right of the

00:50:31.480 united states like it was when we battled fark in columbia and in the the jungles down there we had

00:50:39.060 military men and women on the ground yeah in choppers todd i want to i want to bring you back to mark

00:50:47.340 because we're out of time real quickly how did it get to you they got to follow you on social media

00:50:50.400 how they get to you and your writings yeah bensman todd at twitter now and t bensman at getter

00:50:56.720 i'm also on truth social you can follow me on all those places i just returned from mexico

00:51:02.240 eight days down there and i have a lot to report coming up fine we're gonna have you back on todd

00:51:09.140 bensman you're a patriot and a hero okay uh reporting uh uh mccarthy just lost the 11th ballot they're gonna

00:51:15.780 be deal making tonight we'll be up on getter talking about back at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning

00:51:20.280 going to be another incredible day make sure you're back here thank you see you tomorrow

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Battleground EP 206： The Battle For Speaker; War Against The Cartel In Mexico

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