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00:00:29.300 We're gonna see on Thursday,

00:00:31.140 Sarah Matthews and Mr. Pottinger.

00:00:34.480 What can we expect from them, Betsy?

00:00:38.500 Both of these officials resigned on January 6th

00:00:42.220 because of what was happening that day.

00:00:43.980 Pottinger's particularly interesting.

00:00:45.480 He was a senior National Security Council staffer

00:00:48.180 for the entirety of the Trump administration.

00:00:50.480 As people remember,

00:00:51.480 the NSC had a crazy amount of staff turnover

00:00:54.060 for that entire four years.

00:00:55.720 But Pottinger endured through a number

00:00:57.960 of national security advisors.

00:00:59.920 I'm told that one person who was a key advocate for Pottinger

00:01:03.140 within the Trump administration

00:01:05.000 was then Vice President Mike Pence.

00:01:07.500 So it would have been extraordinarily difficult

00:01:09.880 and intense for Pottinger

00:01:11.740 to see the president's text about Mike Pence

00:01:13.980 that went down on January 6th.

00:01:15.980 Although perhaps difficult is the wrong word.

00:01:17.140 It sounds like it was actually really easy for him.

00:01:19.240 That text he testified to the committee made it crystal clear

00:01:22.780 that he didn't want to be in the administration anymore.

00:01:25.060 And that's why he resigned.

00:01:28.180 Peter Kay Navarro sitting in for Stephen Kay Bannon.

00:01:31.760 Today we got a packed show and we are going to start Katie Tour.

00:01:36.820 I'm going to agree with her.

00:01:37.920 Matt Pottinger, a former colleague of mine

00:01:41.960 in the Trump White House,

00:01:44.360 is particularly interesting.

00:01:48.700 And the way I want to set this up, first of all,

00:01:52.700 is you saw in that little ad

00:01:55.860 about the Taking Back Trump's America book.

00:02:00.180 And what's really interesting about this book

00:02:04.060 with respect to what's happening now in real time

00:02:07.220 with people like Matt Pottinger,

00:02:09.920 is that the foundation of this book,

00:02:12.800 one of the key themes of this book,

00:02:15.320 is a more subtle form of the Reagan axiom

00:02:23.080 that personnel is policy.

00:02:26.580 The Reagan axiom basically referred to,

00:02:29.640 hey, if you put people in your administration

00:02:31.840 that have a certain point of view,

00:02:34.640 you're going to get policies reflecting that point of view.

00:02:38.300 And if they may or may not agree

00:02:40.860 with the commander in chief,

00:02:42.480 and Reagan was warning,

00:02:44.440 don't put people like that in

00:02:45.860 who don't agree with Reagan.

00:02:48.540 In the Taking Back Trump's America book,

00:02:50.440 I refine that and talk about how bad personnel,

00:02:57.120 not only is bad policy,

00:02:59.380 but bad politics.

00:03:02.200 And long before there was a January 6th committee,

00:03:07.220 and long before the subpoenas were flying,

00:03:09.040 long before this and then that,

00:03:11.100 I wrote the Taking Back Trump's America book.

00:03:15.160 And in it,

00:03:16.940 I identify just a whole number of these bad personnel

00:03:22.220 with the premise of the book being

00:03:25.560 and one of the central premises

00:03:26.820 that because of these bad personnel

00:03:29.920 and the resultant bad politics,

00:03:32.520 we lost the election.

00:03:36.080 And more accurately,

00:03:37.500 it was close enough to steal.

00:03:39.560 And, you know,

00:03:39.880 some of these people are the usual suspects

00:03:42.680 you hear about.

00:03:44.240 And I ripped them from stem to stern

00:03:46.980 in Taking Back Trump's America.

00:03:49.580 You know,

00:03:50.000 the worst probably was Steve Mnuchin.

00:03:52.140 And he hands down did the most damage

00:03:54.820 to the boss of any,

00:03:55.780 but there were others like the two men

00:03:58.760 who ruined the National Economic Council,

00:04:03.500 Gary Kudlow,

00:04:04.800 excuse me,

00:04:05.220 Gary,

00:04:05.620 Larry Kudlow and Gary Cohn.

00:04:07.800 You had Mattis,

00:04:10.080 Mad Dog Mattis,

00:04:11.460 followed by feckless Mark Esper

00:04:13.540 at the Department of Defense,

00:04:15.720 bad personnel,

00:04:17.160 Tillerson at State.

00:04:18.280 But there were these second-tier players

00:04:22.100 like Matt Pottinger.

00:04:26.520 And a lot of these bad personnel

00:04:28.000 that I talk about

00:04:29.020 in the Taking Back Trump's America book

00:04:31.940 are now popping up

00:04:34.700 within the context

00:04:36.240 of the select committee,

00:04:39.600 as they like to call it,

00:04:40.660 or unselect,

00:04:41.560 as President Trump likes to call it,

00:04:43.640 in prime time.

00:04:45.280 or with other bad personnel

00:04:50.580 I talk about

00:04:51.760 in the Taking Back Trump's America book

00:04:53.280 like Mick Mulvaney.

00:04:55.280 They're popping off

00:04:56.980 as commentators.

00:04:59.360 And by the way,

00:05:01.340 MSNBC needs to be held accountable

00:05:03.700 for this.

00:05:05.400 MSNBC,

00:05:06.520 talking to you right now,

00:05:08.360 journalistic ethics,

00:05:09.780 you're putting this guy,

00:05:11.160 Miles Taylor,

00:05:12.200 on your show,

00:05:14.280 the pop-off about Trump

00:05:15.960 in the most condescending way,

00:05:20.380 and you don't tell the audience

00:05:22.720 that this was the same guy

00:05:24.800 who allegedly published

00:05:26.560 the anonymous books

00:05:29.700 that dumped all over Trump

00:05:31.560 early in the administration,

00:05:33.440 and instead you portray him

00:05:35.900 as somebody who was pro-Trump

00:05:37.960 by describing him

00:05:39.240 as a former Trump official.

00:05:40.560 Shame on you,

00:05:42.780 MSNBC.

00:05:43.820 So,

00:05:44.560 this bad personnel

00:05:45.920 is not only bad policy,

00:05:48.500 but bad politics

00:05:49.480 is the theme

00:05:50.080 of Taking Back Trump's America.

00:05:51.800 What I'm going to do now

00:05:53.440 is I'm going to talk

00:05:54.640 about what I have described

00:05:58.980 previously

00:05:59.940 and described in a civil suit

00:06:01.620 I filed in this matter,

00:06:03.620 and I'm going to be very careful

00:06:04.680 not to talk about

00:06:05.420 my own case

00:06:07.000 that's pending now.

00:06:08.500 But I want to do that.

00:06:12.060 I want to kind of lay this out

00:06:13.420 as kind of the chessboard

00:06:16.500 we're watching now,

00:06:18.460 and then I want to read

00:06:20.280 a brief passage

00:06:21.320 from Taking Back Trump's America

00:06:23.420 about Matt Pottinger

00:06:25.340 to give you a little insight

00:06:26.860 into his own character

00:06:29.620 or lack thereof.

00:06:31.240 And interestingly enough,

00:06:33.820 this is going to be a packed show

00:06:35.280 in the B Block,

00:06:37.020 the second part of this half hour.

00:06:40.340 We're going to bring up

00:06:41.840 Jeffrey Tucker

00:06:43.220 to talk about Deborah Birx,

00:06:45.500 another one of these bad personnel

00:06:47.240 in the Trump White House

00:06:48.360 who stabbed him in the back.

00:06:50.520 And I'm going to tell you

00:06:51.980 in more detail

00:06:53.280 how it was Matt Pottinger

00:06:54.940 who actually was most responsible

00:06:57.940 for Deborah Birx

00:06:59.560 being in the White House.

00:07:00.800 That's some breaking news for you,

00:07:02.600 by the way,

00:07:03.540 out there

00:07:04.100 in Never Trump

00:07:06.420 journalism land.

00:07:10.000 So,

00:07:10.540 let me talk about the committee.

00:07:14.500 What I'm going to tell you now

00:07:15.600 is nothing

00:07:16.060 that I haven't said repeatedly,

00:07:18.740 but I think it's worth reviewing

00:07:22.240 in light of the continuing

00:07:23.920 unfolding events

00:07:25.520 that we're seeing.

00:07:28.140 You,

00:07:29.280 and again,

00:07:30.080 if you go to PeterNavarro.com,

00:07:32.060 you can read my civil suit

00:07:33.540 that I filed against that committee

00:07:35.100 that lays all this out

00:07:37.980 in great detail.

00:07:40.020 But the beginning of this

00:07:43.540 is the observation

00:07:45.420 that while Congress,

00:07:49.140 the legislative branch

00:07:50.400 of our government,

00:07:51.640 has the power

00:07:52.980 to investigate,

00:07:55.340 it can only do so

00:07:57.060 for legislative purposes.

00:07:59.580 That is,

00:08:00.840 in this particular case,

00:08:02.880 if,

00:08:03.560 for example,

00:08:05.000 this committee

00:08:05.760 really wanted to get

00:08:06.820 to the bottom

00:08:07.380 of what happened

00:08:08.240 on January 6th,

00:08:09.680 they'd want to know

00:08:10.440 why Pelosi

00:08:11.400 left the perimeter

00:08:13.040 lightly guarded.

00:08:14.680 They'd want to know

00:08:15.600 why the feckless

00:08:16.480 Mark Esper,

00:08:17.320 the defense secretary,

00:08:18.780 kept the National Guard

00:08:19.980 too far away

00:08:21.280 to respond

00:08:22.320 in a timely way.

00:08:23.420 And they'd certainly

00:08:23.940 want to know

00:08:24.780 why the FBI

00:08:27.300 had informants

00:08:28.840 inside the battleground

00:08:30.720 perimeter

00:08:31.400 possibly instigating

00:08:33.720 that violence.

00:08:34.500 And if those issues

00:08:36.740 were investigated

00:08:38.720 and rules were changed

00:08:41.520 and laws were made

00:08:42.300 to make sure

00:08:42.840 those things

00:08:43.380 didn't reoccur,

00:08:44.460 that would be

00:08:45.360 a legitimate expression

00:08:46.680 of their legislative function.

00:08:48.220 But,

00:08:49.380 but,

00:08:49.980 big but here,

00:08:51.840 that's not

00:08:52.880 what's going on here.

00:08:54.200 That may be

00:08:54.880 part of what's

00:08:56.140 going on here,

00:08:57.320 but this committee

00:08:59.680 is using that

00:09:00.780 as a veil

00:09:01.680 to also pursue

00:09:03.580 a judicial function,

00:09:06.460 which is a violation

00:09:08.180 of the separation

00:09:08.960 of powers.

00:09:09.520 we got the legislative,

00:09:11.700 executive,

00:09:12.200 and judicial branch.

00:09:13.320 The role of the judiciary

00:09:14.360 is to prosecute,

00:09:17.460 criminally punish.

00:09:19.140 That's what the judiciary does.

00:09:20.780 So,

00:09:21.820 it's not appropriate

00:09:23.340 in the slightest

00:09:24.740 for this

00:09:26.420 unselect committee

00:09:27.840 to spend

00:09:29.780 its focus

00:09:30.760 and time

00:09:31.460 on building

00:09:32.420 a criminal case

00:09:33.940 against Donald Trump

00:09:35.120 for the political

00:09:36.480 and partisan purposes

00:09:37.800 of preventing him

00:09:39.780 from becoming

00:09:40.980 President 47

00:09:42.680 in this country

00:09:43.640 in January

00:09:44.680 of 2025.

00:09:46.660 Yet,

00:09:46.940 that is what

00:09:47.620 they are doing.

00:09:48.580 And you have

00:09:49.560 as proof

00:09:52.520 of that

00:09:53.120 seven

00:09:54.060 of the nine members,

00:09:56.160 Democrats,

00:09:57.760 essentially

00:09:58.960 participated

00:10:00.100 in coup d'etat

00:10:01.640 attempts

00:10:03.040 beginning

00:10:04.480 as far back

00:10:06.160 as 2016,

00:10:07.460 whether it's

00:10:08.320 Benny Thompson,

00:10:09.760 the chair,

00:10:11.300 Jamie Raskin,

00:10:12.600 Adam Schiff.

00:10:15.180 Just roll it off.

00:10:16.980 It started

00:10:17.460 with the now

00:10:18.080 discredited Russia

00:10:19.200 hoax,

00:10:20.040 which Schiff

00:10:20.680 in particular

00:10:21.440 pursued.

00:10:22.740 There were

00:10:23.120 two phony impeachments,

00:10:24.920 which all seven

00:10:25.980 of those Democrats

00:10:26.980 were involved in.

00:10:28.040 And Raskin

00:10:29.440 in particular

00:10:30.260 pursued three

00:10:31.540 different House

00:10:32.260 resolutions

00:10:32.880 designed to get

00:10:33.700 rid of

00:10:34.460 Donald Trump

00:10:36.700 on trumped up,

00:10:38.900 pun intended,

00:10:40.000 physical or

00:10:40.600 medical

00:10:41.680 grounds.

00:10:44.740 So we know

00:10:46.340 all of that

00:10:47.540 and what

00:10:48.480 this kangaroo

00:10:50.380 committee

00:10:50.900 is doing

00:10:52.620 in their

00:10:55.740 investigation

00:10:56.520 is handing

00:10:58.500 out

00:10:58.960 unlawful

00:11:00.420 subpoenas

00:11:00.980 in my civil

00:11:01.720 suit.

00:11:02.080 I described

00:11:02.540 them as

00:11:02.960 ultra-virus

00:11:03.980 unlawful

00:11:05.320 subpoenas

00:11:06.860 like

00:11:08.240 peasant

00:11:08.740 dispensers.

00:11:09.920 And they're

00:11:10.460 bringing in

00:11:11.140 whoever they

00:11:11.800 can,

00:11:12.180 people like

00:11:12.680 Pottinger,

00:11:13.720 who will go

00:11:14.740 in there and

00:11:15.260 talk to them.

00:11:16.080 They put anybody

00:11:16.920 who comes in

00:11:17.680 behind closed

00:11:18.700 doors.

00:11:20.900 These people

00:11:21.920 who are

00:11:22.480 interviewed are

00:11:23.220 not allowed to

00:11:24.180 record any of

00:11:25.480 that,

00:11:25.760 so they

00:11:26.120 have to do

00:11:27.220 everything from

00:11:27.760 memory.

00:11:30.700 And if

00:11:31.900 somebody says

00:11:32.660 something that

00:11:33.600 the committee

00:11:34.500 likes that's

00:11:35.640 consistent with

00:11:36.480 their hoax

00:11:37.800 narrative,

00:11:38.700 they'll put

00:11:39.320 them on in

00:11:39.740 prime time.

00:11:40.540 So apparently

00:11:41.080 Matt Pottinger

00:11:42.800 made the cut.

00:11:45.100 So let me

00:11:45.640 read this

00:11:46.720 from

00:11:47.740 Taking Back

00:11:49.120 Trump's

00:11:49.540 America.

00:11:50.700 This is what I

00:11:51.180 had to say

00:11:51.620 about Matt

00:11:52.160 Pottinger long

00:11:52.900 before any

00:11:54.060 of these

00:11:54.520 events

00:11:55.360 arrived.

00:11:57.180 And so

00:11:57.600 I'm talking

00:11:59.340 about kind

00:11:59.860 of what the

00:12:00.240 beginning in

00:12:00.960 2016 when we

00:12:02.160 were in the

00:12:02.500 transition,

00:12:03.540 what I was

00:12:04.280 doing between

00:12:04.940 Election Day

00:12:05.760 and Inauguration

00:12:06.760 Day in

00:12:08.400 2016.

00:12:09.320 So let me just

00:12:09.940 read this out

00:12:10.660 here.

00:12:10.840 As a third

00:12:11.740 line of effort

00:12:12.640 I would engage

00:12:13.500 in during the

00:12:14.040 transition to

00:12:14.800 Trump Tower,

00:12:16.000 I would dig

00:12:16.620 in with Mike

00:12:17.600 Flynn,

00:12:18.360 Trump's choice

00:12:18.940 for national

00:12:19.520 security advisor.

00:12:20.660 I liked Mike

00:12:21.840 from the

00:12:22.180 outset.

00:12:22.760 He had a

00:12:23.120 no-nonsense,

00:12:24.040 let's-take-the-hill

00:12:24.880 kind of military

00:12:25.740 sensibility that

00:12:27.140 appealed to my

00:12:27.840 own temperament.

00:12:29.120 He also left

00:12:29.820 no doubt that

00:12:30.700 he saw

00:12:31.020 communist China

00:12:31.920 at the top

00:12:32.900 of the pyramid

00:12:33.780 of existential

00:12:34.820 threats to the

00:12:35.640 United States.

00:12:37.480 The other

00:12:37.840 great appeal

00:12:38.460 of Mike

00:12:39.160 Flynn to me

00:12:39.940 was his

00:12:40.380 soon-to-be

00:12:40.800 deputy,

00:12:41.400 Matt Pottinger.

00:12:42.680 Pottinger was

00:12:43.540 a fluent

00:12:44.120 Mandarin

00:12:44.780 speaker who

00:12:45.460 had worked

00:12:45.840 in China

00:12:46.360 for nearly

00:12:47.260 five years

00:12:47.920 for the

00:12:48.260 Wall Street

00:12:48.740 Journal as

00:12:49.600 a reporter.

00:12:50.660 In 2005,

00:12:52.920 Pottinger

00:12:53.260 enlisted in

00:12:53.980 the Marines

00:12:54.480 and wound

00:12:54.880 up serving

00:12:55.340 in Afghanistan

00:12:56.240 where he

00:12:57.400 met Flynn.

00:12:58.720 Now,

00:12:59.000 he had

00:12:59.220 hooked his

00:12:59.620 wagon to

00:13:00.560 the rising

00:13:01.020 Flynn star

00:13:01.920 and he was

00:13:02.680 schooling Flynn

00:13:03.400 on the

00:13:03.900 subtleties of

00:13:04.740 Chinese mercantilism

00:13:06.080 and the

00:13:06.840 geopolitics of

00:13:07.880 Chinese soft

00:13:08.560 power.

00:13:09.440 Now,

00:13:09.620 here's where

00:13:09.960 it gets

00:13:10.240 interesting.

00:13:11.180 I would be

00:13:11.600 remiss in not

00:13:12.440 adding here,

00:13:13.400 however,

00:13:14.000 that ultimately

00:13:14.740 Pottinger was

00:13:15.940 a big

00:13:16.300 disappointment to

00:13:17.160 me as well

00:13:18.280 as to the

00:13:18.720 boss.

00:13:19.320 That's

00:13:19.560 President Trump.

00:13:20.660 With his

00:13:21.180 expertise as a

00:13:22.280 Wall Street

00:13:22.620 Journal reporter,

00:13:23.900 Pottinger had

00:13:24.560 mastered the

00:13:25.260 art of the

00:13:25.840 strategic leak.

00:13:27.040 What Pottinger

00:13:27.840 would do towards

00:13:28.440 the end of the

00:13:29.260 administration using

00:13:30.660 that mastery was

00:13:31.840 leak all sorts of

00:13:32.960 information that

00:13:33.980 portrayed Matt as

00:13:34.980 a hero at the

00:13:35.960 expense of POTUS,

00:13:37.080 myself, and even

00:13:37.960 his own boss,

00:13:39.100 Robert O'Brien.

00:13:40.760 When the books,

00:13:41.640 and yes, there

00:13:42.320 were more than

00:13:42.820 one book,

00:13:43.400 came out portraying

00:13:44.480 Matt as a cross

00:13:45.440 between Superman and

00:13:46.640 the second coming of

00:13:47.520 Christ, juxtaposed

00:13:48.940 against the devil of

00:13:49.940 Trump and

00:13:50.500 everybody else in

00:13:51.340 the West Wing,

00:13:52.120 we all knew

00:13:53.020 exactly who the

00:13:54.080 source of the leak

00:13:55.080 was.

00:13:56.180 More than

00:13:56.700 miffed,

00:13:57.480 POTUS let

00:13:58.200 O'Brien know

00:13:59.060 in no uncertain

00:13:59.940 terms how pissed

00:14:01.280 off he was at

00:14:02.760 Pottinger and

00:14:03.760 wanting him out

00:14:04.700 of the building.

00:14:06.100 O'Brien pretty

00:14:07.640 much felt the

00:14:08.520 same way.

00:14:09.200 That's right from

00:14:10.020 the gospel of

00:14:10.920 taking back

00:14:11.540 Trump's America.

00:14:12.600 That's who Matt

00:14:13.620 Pottinger is,

00:14:14.460 and that's a

00:14:16.560 poster child of

00:14:18.300 the whole premise

00:14:19.140 of the Taking

00:14:19.920 Back Trump's

00:14:20.480 America book,

00:14:21.600 that bad

00:14:22.180 personnel not

00:14:24.040 only lead to

00:14:24.740 bad policy,

00:14:25.700 because Matt

00:14:26.160 dragged his heels

00:14:27.020 on a lot of

00:14:27.660 things stuck

00:14:28.560 with Deborah

00:14:29.140 Birx,

00:14:29.820 it also leads

00:14:30.720 to bad

00:14:31.520 politics.

00:14:32.400 Peter K.

00:14:32.940 Navarro in

00:14:33.460 for Stephen K.

00:14:34.180 Bannon.

00:14:34.640 We'll be right

00:14:35.280 back to talk

00:14:36.040 more about bad

00:14:37.340 personnel in the

00:14:38.140 White House,

00:14:38.800 and Deborah

00:14:39.780 Birx is up

00:14:40.840 next.

00:14:41.220 You know

00:15:00.060 what's never

00:15:00.440 good?

00:15:01.540 When your

00:15:01.880 nation's

00:15:02.500 supposed

00:15:03.220 authority on

00:15:04.020 economic policy

00:15:05.080 completely

00:15:05.980 misses the

00:15:07.280 flashing red

00:15:08.020 lights of

00:15:08.600 impending

00:15:08.960 inflation.

00:15:10.420 Now,

00:15:10.580 Treasury

00:15:11.020 Secretary

00:15:11.520 Janet

00:15:11.880 Yellen

00:15:12.160 has finally

00:15:12.940 admitted,

00:15:13.740 quote,

00:15:14.540 there's been

00:15:14.960 an unanticipated

00:15:15.920 and large

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00:15:21.300 that affected

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00:15:22.400 badly that I

00:15:24.240 didn't,

00:15:25.380 at the time,

00:15:26.860 fully understand,

00:15:27.900 end quote.

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00:16:42.780 Okay,

00:16:45.100 Peter K.

00:16:46.060 Navarro in

00:16:46.740 for Stephen

00:16:47.320 K.

00:16:47.700 Bannon today.

00:16:48.360 We're going

00:16:48.580 to give Denver

00:16:49.220 a minute or

00:16:49.880 two to

00:16:51.240 reset.

00:16:51.920 Denver,

00:16:52.280 I wanted

00:16:52.560 the Birx

00:16:53.900 clip coupled

00:16:56.060 back-to-back

00:16:57.480 with Jeffrey

00:16:58.060 Tucker's clip

00:16:59.060 this morning

00:17:00.580 from the

00:17:00.900 war room.

00:17:01.280 Let Cameron

00:17:01.820 know when

00:17:03.340 you're ready

00:17:03.880 to go and

00:17:05.680 we'll do

00:17:06.060 that because

00:17:06.880 this is going

00:17:07.980 to be important.

00:17:09.200 In the last

00:17:09.600 segment,

00:17:10.540 I talked

00:17:11.360 about how

00:17:12.420 in the

00:17:13.200 Taking Back

00:17:13.640 Trump's

00:17:14.020 America book,

00:17:14.720 the theme

00:17:15.120 was bad

00:17:15.840 personnel

00:17:16.460 equals bad

00:17:17.340 politics.

00:17:18.720 And I

00:17:18.940 showed that

00:17:19.580 Matt Pottinger

00:17:20.620 was part of

00:17:22.000 that endemic

00:17:22.800 problem in

00:17:23.440 the White

00:17:23.820 House.

00:17:24.720 And now

00:17:25.240 let's

00:17:25.840 explain how

00:17:28.240 Matt Pottinger

00:17:29.200 was the guy

00:17:30.100 who actually

00:17:31.000 helped create

00:17:31.760 the Birx

00:17:32.240 monster.

00:17:33.580 But I want

00:17:34.320 to tee it

00:17:34.820 up with this

00:17:35.380 clip.

00:17:35.820 So Denver,

00:17:36.340 fire away.

00:17:37.500 When the

00:17:38.060 government told

00:17:38.560 us that the

00:17:39.200 vaccine couldn't

00:17:39.880 transmit it,

00:17:40.640 was that a

00:17:41.160 lie or was

00:17:41.620 that a

00:17:41.860 guess?

00:17:42.640 Or is it

00:17:42.980 the same

00:17:43.300 answer?

00:17:44.500 I think it

00:17:45.380 was hope

00:17:46.040 that the

00:17:47.100 vaccine would

00:17:47.840 work in

00:17:48.240 that way.

00:17:49.080 And that's

00:17:49.500 why I think

00:17:50.040 scientists and

00:17:50.960 public health

00:17:51.580 leaders always

00:17:52.880 have to be at

00:17:53.660 the table,

00:17:54.640 being very

00:17:55.140 clear what we

00:17:55.880 know and what

00:17:56.460 we don't know.

00:17:56.820 This is important

00:17:57.780 for the country

00:17:58.280 to know.

00:17:58.740 So when I

00:17:59.100 asked the

00:17:59.380 question,

00:17:59.760 when the

00:18:00.000 government

00:18:00.220 told us that

00:18:01.260 the vaccinated

00:18:01.800 couldn't get

00:18:02.560 it, and I

00:18:03.560 asked you if it

00:18:03.980 was a guess or

00:18:04.680 a lie, you

00:18:05.140 said you don't

00:18:05.640 know, you

00:18:06.360 said you think

00:18:07.000 it was hope.

00:18:08.020 So what we do

00:18:08.760 know is it

00:18:09.260 wasn't the

00:18:09.740 truth.

00:18:10.120 So they

00:18:10.640 were either

00:18:11.040 guessing, lying,

00:18:12.460 or hoping, and

00:18:13.740 communicating that

00:18:14.500 information to

00:18:15.240 the citizens of

00:18:17.160 this country.

00:18:22.480 Burke's book

00:18:23.120 is that she

00:18:24.000 was never much

00:18:26.300 of a believer in

00:18:27.000 the vaccine.

00:18:27.600 She always

00:18:27.940 thought that

00:18:28.340 they would

00:18:28.860 probably not

00:18:30.340 work very

00:18:30.980 well.

00:18:32.040 And she

00:18:32.460 wanted permanent

00:18:33.080 lockdowns.

00:18:33.760 In other

00:18:34.000 words, a lot

00:18:34.380 of people

00:18:34.600 thought the

00:18:34.920 vaccines was

00:18:35.480 the way to

00:18:35.800 get out of

00:18:36.180 lockdowns.

00:18:36.980 She didn't

00:18:37.380 believe that.

00:18:38.300 She always

00:18:38.660 thought you

00:18:38.940 would have to

00:18:39.320 stay in

00:18:39.580 lockdowns for

00:18:40.100 forever, as

00:18:40.540 far as I

00:18:40.900 can tell.

00:18:41.700 So when

00:18:42.300 she's referring

00:18:43.060 to people

00:18:44.080 advertising that

00:18:45.720 the vaccines

00:18:46.380 would stop

00:18:46.780 infection and

00:18:47.540 transmission,

00:18:48.080 she's really

00:18:48.440 talking about

00:18:49.020 Fauci and

00:18:49.920 Walensky and

00:18:50.700 these kind of

00:18:51.160 things.

00:18:51.400 So when she

00:18:51.740 says it was

00:18:52.200 a hope, she's

00:18:53.200 really describing

00:18:53.880 them, that

00:18:54.940 they were

00:18:55.640 hoping, but

00:18:56.160 she'd been

00:18:57.180 reading the

00:18:57.620 EUAs and

00:18:58.460 seeing very

00:18:59.180 clearly early

00:18:59.800 on that they

00:19:00.320 weren't going

00:19:00.680 to work.

00:19:01.240 What's creepy

00:19:02.100 about Burke's

00:19:03.420 is that she's

00:19:04.620 even worse than

00:19:05.360 what you

00:19:05.600 described.

00:19:06.060 All right, we're

00:19:10.420 going to have

00:19:10.780 Jeffrey Tucker

00:19:11.380 in in a

00:19:12.000 moment, but I

00:19:12.680 want to kind

00:19:13.160 of set the

00:19:13.720 table here

00:19:14.360 because this

00:19:15.960 story's a bit

00:19:17.520 more complex

00:19:18.260 than anybody's

00:19:19.100 told so far,

00:19:19.940 and I was

00:19:20.360 there, and I

00:19:22.620 think I may

00:19:23.460 break some more

00:19:24.200 news today when I

00:19:25.200 talk a little bit

00:19:26.020 about this.

00:19:26.720 in late

00:19:29.700 January, in

00:19:31.620 2020, when the

00:19:32.720 pandemic was

00:19:33.480 breaking, I

00:19:35.620 was one of

00:19:36.760 the few people

00:19:37.540 in the White

00:19:38.120 House who

00:19:40.080 believed Houston

00:19:41.380 we had a

00:19:41.920 problem, and

00:19:43.160 I met Fauci

00:19:45.880 on January

00:19:46.640 28th, and

00:19:49.100 that's

00:19:49.480 memorialized in

00:19:51.920 the In Trump

00:19:52.360 Time book, and

00:19:53.480 I fought him

00:19:54.100 tooth and

00:19:54.620 nail on the

00:19:55.960 China travel

00:19:56.640 ban.

00:19:57.040 He was

00:19:57.300 again, and

00:19:57.720 I was

00:19:58.020 for it.

00:19:59.000 We got it.

00:19:59.780 It saved

00:20:00.080 millions of

00:20:00.620 lives, and

00:20:01.360 it was the

00:20:02.060 first time

00:20:02.760 Fauci was

00:20:03.840 exposed to

00:20:04.460 me as the

00:20:05.520 liar, disseminator,

00:20:06.960 weakling,

00:20:08.080 backstabber that

00:20:09.400 he was, and

00:20:10.260 it was the

00:20:11.280 first time I

00:20:11.840 told the

00:20:12.220 boss to

00:20:12.660 fire Fauci,

00:20:14.120 and it

00:20:14.640 wouldn't be

00:20:14.960 the last

00:20:15.380 time.

00:20:16.480 But what

00:20:17.100 was interesting

00:20:17.860 early on in

00:20:19.060 the pandemic,

00:20:19.740 you have to

00:20:20.060 understand that

00:20:21.780 at the time

00:20:22.700 this pandemic

00:20:23.820 hit, we had

00:20:25.040 no idea how

00:20:26.100 dangerous the

00:20:26.720 China virus

00:20:27.320 was.

00:20:27.860 I knew

00:20:28.920 right at the

00:20:29.420 outset it

00:20:29.960 came from

00:20:30.340 China, it

00:20:30.820 came from

00:20:31.100 that Wuhan

00:20:31.540 lab.

00:20:33.440 We thought it

00:20:34.240 might be a

00:20:34.740 bioweapon.

00:20:36.060 We were

00:20:36.340 looking at

00:20:36.940 what's called

00:20:37.360 the R-naught,

00:20:38.520 which is how

00:20:40.580 contagious the

00:20:41.500 virus was.

00:20:42.340 It looked to

00:20:42.680 be very

00:20:43.020 contagious, and

00:20:44.260 how deadly the

00:20:45.060 virus was.

00:20:45.820 It looked to

00:20:46.140 be very deadly,

00:20:47.080 at least in

00:20:47.920 the early

00:20:48.340 stages.

00:20:48.900 And so you

00:20:50.560 had people

00:20:53.220 within the

00:20:53.920 White House

00:20:54.440 who had

00:20:54.820 very starkly

00:20:55.820 different views,

00:20:57.760 and Mark

00:21:00.960 Short, who

00:21:01.760 was the

00:21:02.080 chief of

00:21:02.420 staff to

00:21:03.040 Pence, was

00:21:04.600 what I

00:21:05.460 called in

00:21:06.040 the In

00:21:06.240 Trump Time

00:21:06.620 book, one

00:21:07.000 of the

00:21:07.200 virus deniers,

00:21:08.220 along with

00:21:08.580 Kudlow,

00:21:10.140 Jared Kushner,

00:21:11.480 most of the

00:21:12.020 top people

00:21:12.520 around the

00:21:13.060 president, it

00:21:13.640 was like,

00:21:14.060 eh, no big

00:21:14.700 deal, Mnuchin,

00:21:15.480 they were

00:21:15.860 all kind

00:21:16.520 of not

00:21:17.240 taking it

00:21:18.500 seriously in

00:21:19.400 a way which

00:21:21.800 wouldn't lead

00:21:22.300 us to

00:21:22.600 lockdowns, but

00:21:23.380 it would lead

00:21:24.280 us, for

00:21:24.800 example, to

00:21:25.400 prepare for

00:21:26.320 enough

00:21:26.640 protective

00:21:27.860 equipment,

00:21:28.480 personal

00:21:28.720 protective

00:21:29.140 equipment,

00:21:29.680 other things

00:21:30.000 like that.

00:21:31.500 And so

00:21:31.960 the way

00:21:33.000 Burks came

00:21:33.900 into the

00:21:34.380 mix was

00:21:35.860 Pottinger in

00:21:37.300 the National

00:21:37.700 Security Council,

00:21:38.880 he was the

00:21:39.320 deputy to

00:21:39.940 Robert O'Brien.

00:21:41.580 Both Pottinger

00:21:42.720 and O'Brien

00:21:43.500 had a more

00:21:44.360 dire and

00:21:46.420 hawkish view

00:21:47.460 of this

00:21:48.800 virus, knowing

00:21:49.760 what they

00:21:50.160 knew about

00:21:50.720 China and

00:21:51.340 what it

00:21:51.620 might do,

00:21:52.540 and they

00:21:53.200 had the

00:21:53.580 bright idea

00:21:54.400 of importing

00:21:55.240 Burks in

00:21:56.180 from the

00:21:57.040 bureaucracy

00:21:57.540 for the

00:21:58.180 sole purpose

00:21:59.040 of having

00:22:00.220 a fifth

00:22:00.860 column inside

00:22:01.920 Vice President

00:22:02.680 Mike Pence's

00:22:03.600 task force

00:22:04.820 to push

00:22:06.320 a harder

00:22:07.760 line on

00:22:09.300 things like

00:22:10.180 lockdowns.

00:22:12.320 So the

00:22:13.400 genesis of

00:22:14.360 Burks

00:22:14.700 really was

00:22:16.300 Pottinger.

00:22:18.260 And what

00:22:20.860 ensued was

00:22:21.900 a very

00:22:22.460 complex

00:22:23.180 battle of

00:22:23.920 factions.

00:22:25.240 Scott

00:22:25.500 Atlas,

00:22:27.040 who Jeff

00:22:28.660 Tucker has

00:22:29.120 high regard

00:22:29.700 for, would

00:22:30.840 come in.

00:22:32.180 My only

00:22:32.680 criticism of

00:22:33.520 Scott is he

00:22:34.180 just didn't

00:22:34.780 know anything

00:22:35.200 about politics.

00:22:36.700 And he

00:22:36.960 came in and

00:22:37.760 spoke his

00:22:38.560 mind and

00:22:39.460 they just

00:22:40.460 eviscerated

00:22:41.260 him.

00:22:42.480 Burks had

00:22:42.980 a similar

00:22:43.420 problem.

00:22:43.820 They

00:22:43.940 eviscerated

00:22:44.760 her.

00:22:45.100 And when

00:22:45.260 I talk

00:22:45.560 about they,

00:22:46.680 it was

00:22:47.080 Kushner and

00:22:48.280 Mark Short

00:22:48.940 who would

00:22:49.380 turn Burks

00:22:50.860 into a

00:22:52.280 sacrificial

00:22:52.940 lamb for

00:22:53.780 some of the

00:22:54.160 stuff they

00:22:54.520 did.

00:22:56.340 it just

00:23:00.060 didn't

00:23:01.640 proceed well.

00:23:05.240 And Burks,

00:23:06.080 I called her

00:23:06.700 dances with

00:23:07.360 scarves because

00:23:07.980 she had the

00:23:08.380 signature scarves

00:23:09.740 became a

00:23:11.880 person with

00:23:13.080 no economics

00:23:13.900 training

00:23:14.220 whatsoever,

00:23:15.220 total blinders

00:23:16.400 on.

00:23:16.740 All she

00:23:16.980 wanted to

00:23:17.440 do was

00:23:17.860 kill the

00:23:18.580 virus and

00:23:19.740 she thought

00:23:20.280 the only way

00:23:20.840 to do it

00:23:21.360 was the

00:23:21.780 lockdown.

00:23:23.180 And therein

00:23:24.620 stopped the

00:23:27.020 spread and

00:23:28.200 sued.

00:23:28.740 You know,

00:23:28.880 the very

00:23:29.100 pious Mike

00:23:29.820 Pence kind

00:23:30.460 of did a

00:23:30.840 180 and

00:23:31.540 we started

00:23:32.140 walking down

00:23:33.220 that road.

00:23:34.400 But that's

00:23:35.140 the back

00:23:35.600 story.

00:23:36.400 And I

00:23:36.820 think Burks

00:23:37.540 ultimately

00:23:38.000 turned on

00:23:38.840 the president.

00:23:39.320 Last thing

00:23:39.720 I'll say

00:23:40.200 about Burks,

00:23:41.000 again,

00:23:41.340 it's like

00:23:41.740 character

00:23:42.600 determines

00:23:43.200 fate.

00:23:44.400 And just

00:23:44.680 as Pottinger

00:23:45.400 turned out

00:23:45.920 to be a

00:23:46.460 leaker,

00:23:47.080 a self-angrizing

00:23:48.140 leaker who

00:23:48.860 pimped up

00:23:49.580 his own

00:23:49.980 resume while

00:23:52.000 downgrading

00:23:52.820 the boss

00:23:53.400 and O'Brien

00:23:54.040 and myself

00:23:54.780 with regards

00:23:56.040 to all sorts

00:23:56.880 of things

00:23:57.320 about our

00:23:57.820 China policy,

00:24:00.360 Burks had

00:24:01.200 a little bit

00:24:02.160 of that

00:24:02.660 going on

00:24:04.400 as well.

00:24:04.840 and when

00:24:05.400 she got

00:24:06.000 eviscerated

00:24:07.520 essentially

00:24:08.500 internally,

00:24:09.380 she turned

00:24:10.000 bitter and

00:24:10.460 went after

00:24:10.920 the boss.

00:24:12.240 But the

00:24:12.660 character part

00:24:13.580 was revealed

00:24:14.200 to me in

00:24:15.260 one of the

00:24:15.580 first meetings

00:24:16.220 I was in

00:24:17.000 with her

00:24:17.680 in the

00:24:18.380 Oval.

00:24:19.140 And we

00:24:19.540 had briefed

00:24:20.300 before we

00:24:20.940 went in

00:24:21.560 about what

00:24:22.440 she was

00:24:22.840 going to

00:24:23.120 tell the

00:24:23.500 boss based

00:24:25.160 on what

00:24:25.580 she knew.

00:24:26.480 She went

00:24:27.020 in there

00:24:27.580 and at the

00:24:28.660 first sign

00:24:29.180 of pushback

00:24:30.260 from the

00:24:30.720 boss in

00:24:31.280 terms of

00:24:31.640 intelligent

00:24:32.080 questions,

00:24:33.080 she wilted.

00:24:34.360 And when

00:24:35.340 we came out

00:24:35.960 of the

00:24:36.180 Oval,

00:24:36.680 we were

00:24:36.940 in what's

00:24:37.380 called the

00:24:37.700 Outer Oval

00:24:38.300 and I

00:24:38.560 looked at

00:24:38.840 her and I

00:24:39.100 said,

00:24:39.420 Deb,

00:24:40.100 the only

00:24:40.560 reason why

00:24:41.260 you're here

00:24:41.880 is to speak

00:24:42.860 honestly with

00:24:43.840 President Donald

00:24:44.700 John Trump.

00:24:45.800 And if you

00:24:46.160 can't do that,

00:24:47.180 you have no

00:24:47.640 business being

00:24:48.540 here.

00:24:49.060 You failed

00:24:49.780 right then.

00:24:50.460 You can't

00:24:50.980 let that

00:24:51.420 happen again.

00:24:52.780 And it's

00:24:53.880 a shame

00:24:54.400 that it

00:24:56.180 ended the

00:24:56.720 way it was.

00:24:57.820 Now,

00:24:58.120 I'm going

00:24:58.360 to bring

00:24:58.620 in Jeffrey

00:24:59.100 Tucker.

00:24:59.740 Just so

00:25:00.080 you know,

00:25:00.380 Jeffrey,

00:25:00.720 we're going

00:25:00.960 to bring

00:25:01.320 you over

00:25:01.600 for the

00:25:02.240 next

00:25:03.060 segment

00:25:03.440 as well.

00:25:04.100 So I

00:25:04.220 won't

00:25:04.460 shortchange

00:25:07.040 you on

00:25:07.340 time.

00:25:08.600 But Jeff,

00:25:09.320 I want

00:25:10.160 you to

00:25:10.540 maybe just

00:25:11.300 go ahead

00:25:11.760 and reflect

00:25:12.200 on some

00:25:12.700 of the

00:25:12.880 things I've

00:25:13.240 said and

00:25:15.120 give us

00:25:16.440 your take

00:25:16.980 on this

00:25:18.340 bad

00:25:18.700 personnel

00:25:19.180 and

00:25:19.420 Deborah

00:25:19.640 Burks.

00:25:22.740 The

00:25:23.380 Burks-Puttinger

00:25:25.000 question,

00:25:25.600 let's start

00:25:26.020 there.

00:25:27.380 Apparently

00:25:28.020 Deborah

00:25:28.520 and

00:25:29.080 Puttinger's

00:25:30.060 wife

00:25:30.440 were

00:25:31.260 colleagues

00:25:31.800 at CDC

00:25:32.460 and that's

00:25:32.980 how

00:25:33.160 Puttinger

00:25:33.860 knew about

00:25:34.840 her

00:25:35.140 in the

00:25:36.700 first place.

00:25:37.680 Because it's

00:25:38.100 not like he

00:25:38.560 just picked

00:25:38.980 her randomly

00:25:39.580 out of

00:25:39.980 nowhere,

00:25:40.600 right?

00:25:41.040 She had

00:25:41.440 no experience

00:25:42.020 whatsoever

00:25:42.400 in an

00:25:42.760 infectious

00:25:43.100 disease.

00:25:44.100 She had

00:25:44.340 been doing

00:25:44.960 the AIDS

00:25:45.360 thing as

00:25:45.780 everybody

00:25:46.500 with her

00:25:47.000 credentials

00:25:47.380 was doing

00:25:47.880 because the

00:25:48.400 NIH was

00:25:48.940 handing out

00:25:49.340 money like

00:25:49.860 crazy billions

00:25:51.040 of dollars going

00:25:51.600 to anybody

00:25:52.340 working on AIDS.

00:25:53.320 So that was

00:25:53.680 her only

00:25:54.000 experience.

00:25:54.600 Her only

00:25:55.100 conception of

00:25:56.160 a virus is

00:25:56.920 to avoid

00:25:57.620 it.

00:25:57.860 That's it.

00:25:58.360 I mean,

00:25:58.520 she's not a

00:25:58.980 complicated

00:25:59.280 person.

00:26:00.220 But why

00:26:00.520 she was

00:26:00.920 picked,

00:26:01.340 apparently

00:26:01.620 she was

00:26:02.000 picked.

00:26:03.580 Yeah,

00:26:04.080 go ahead.

00:26:05.480 Sorry,

00:26:06.140 you're

00:26:06.320 cracking me up.

00:26:07.140 Go ahead.

00:26:07.740 No,

00:26:07.900 but it's a

00:26:08.740 respiratory

00:26:09.060 virus.

00:26:09.580 Everybody's

00:26:09.920 going to

00:26:10.100 get it.

00:26:10.780 She didn't

00:26:11.400 get that.

00:26:12.040 She never

00:26:12.500 understood.

00:26:12.920 She thought

00:26:13.200 it was AIDS.

00:26:14.080 And that's

00:26:14.520 why she

00:26:14.800 loved masks.

00:26:15.580 Those are

00:26:15.880 condoms.

00:26:16.780 Anyway,

00:26:17.380 she goes

00:26:17.860 into the

00:26:18.220 books.

00:26:18.660 This woman

00:26:19.080 has the

00:26:20.480 knowledge of

00:26:22.060 a third-grade

00:26:23.140 biology teacher.

00:26:24.080 I mean,

00:26:24.260 she's just

00:26:24.660 anyway.

00:26:26.100 It's

00:26:26.540 embarrassing.

00:26:27.160 So why

00:26:27.760 was she

00:26:28.020 picked?

00:26:28.420 Apparently,

00:26:28.980 she was

00:26:29.240 good friends

00:26:30.160 with Pottinger's

00:26:31.000 wife.

00:26:32.500 And Pottinger

00:26:33.840 foisted her

00:26:34.720 on the White

00:26:35.480 House as

00:26:36.140 the coronavirus

00:26:36.960 coordinator.

00:26:39.880 And I'm

00:26:40.200 guessing that

00:26:40.660 meeting that

00:26:41.140 you had at

00:26:42.020 the Oval

00:26:42.380 Office was,

00:26:43.820 I'm guessing

00:26:44.440 maybe March

00:26:46.200 20th,

00:26:46.900 20,

00:26:47.620 somewhere between

00:26:48.160 February 20th

00:26:50.080 and February

00:26:50.480 25th,

00:26:51.480 something like

00:26:51.980 that.

00:26:53.140 On February

00:26:53.680 27th,

00:26:54.420 as far as

00:26:54.780 I can read

00:26:55.980 the situation,

00:26:57.760 Fauci,

00:26:59.180 along with

00:26:59.640 all the rest

00:27:00.120 of his cohorts,

00:27:01.200 including Redfield

00:27:02.640 and Farrar

00:27:03.400 and London

00:27:05.300 and some of

00:27:06.700 these other

00:27:07.100 major lockdown

00:27:08.080 guys,

00:27:08.800 flipped in the

00:27:09.500 direction of

00:27:10.140 favoring lockdowns.

00:27:11.480 And you and I

00:27:11.960 can discuss

00:27:12.560 how exactly

00:27:13.640 that happened

00:27:14.120 because they'd

00:27:14.500 known about

00:27:14.860 the virus

00:27:15.300 for a full

00:27:16.420 month with

00:27:17.220 burner phones

00:27:18.160 and secret phone

00:27:18.840 calls and all

00:27:19.420 kinds of things.

00:27:20.120 So suddenly they

00:27:20.640 were convinced

00:27:21.120 that the only way

00:27:21.820 they're going

00:27:23.020 to defeat

00:27:23.860 this virus

00:27:24.400 is by

00:27:24.780 destroying

00:27:25.160 the Trump

00:27:25.560 economy.

00:27:26.400 So Burks

00:27:27.480 was all in

00:27:27.980 on that.

00:27:28.940 They tasked

00:27:29.880 her to go

00:27:31.800 into the

00:27:32.480 White House

00:27:32.880 and convince

00:27:33.400 the president,

00:27:34.080 which he

00:27:34.360 reluctantly went

00:27:35.680 along with it

00:27:36.420 on February,

00:27:37.660 not on February

00:27:38.800 27th,

00:27:40.120 beginning on

00:27:41.000 March 12th

00:27:41.580 with the travel

00:27:42.060 ban,

00:27:42.360 but fully on

00:27:43.140 March 16th.

00:27:44.440 he got very

00:27:45.680 suspicious that

00:27:46.740 he had been

00:27:47.260 railroaded

00:27:48.080 within...

00:27:48.940 All right,

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00:27:49.700 thought,

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00:27:51.860 going to the

00:27:52.820 break now

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00:30:32.480 I laugh at

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00:30:34.760 now because

00:30:35.280 my first

00:30:36.300 thought, the

00:30:37.140 one burning

00:30:38.440 question I

00:30:39.200 have about

00:30:39.760 this whole

00:30:40.200 thing is

00:30:41.240 whether those

00:30:41.780 leg irons they

00:30:42.720 put me in

00:30:43.300 were made in

00:30:43.840 America.

00:30:44.920 I spent four

00:30:46.320 years in the

00:30:46.840 White House

00:30:47.420 pushing Buy

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00:30:49.940 and Made

00:30:50.660 in America

00:30:51.060 steel.

00:30:52.580 It would give

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00:30:54.900 comfort, no

00:30:55.620 pun intended,

00:30:56.880 if at least

00:30:57.960 those leg

00:30:58.520 irons the

00:30:59.620 FBI wound up

00:31:00.720 getting me

00:31:01.240 in were, I

00:31:04.660 don't know,

00:31:05.040 made in

00:31:05.420 Ohio or

00:31:06.120 something like

00:31:06.580 that.

00:31:06.820 That would

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00:31:08.720 cool.

00:31:09.860 And speaking

00:31:10.360 of Made

00:31:10.800 in America,

00:31:12.080 there is

00:31:12.520 Mike Lindell

00:31:13.360 and MyPillow.

00:31:14.460 This is one

00:31:14.920 of the most

00:31:15.280 successful

00:31:15.960 American

00:31:17.360 corporations.

00:31:18.620 All the

00:31:19.200 more reason

00:31:20.440 why it's

00:31:21.860 an abomination

00:31:23.300 for the

00:31:25.000 Walmarts and

00:31:25.880 Targets and

00:31:26.500 big box

00:31:27.040 retailers of

00:31:27.840 this world

00:31:28.360 to cancel.

00:31:30.560 That's what

00:31:31.280 they're doing.

00:31:31.740 They're

00:31:31.920 canceling MyPillow

00:31:33.800 because of

00:31:36.680 Mike Lindell's

00:31:37.820 exercise of

00:31:39.860 his free

00:31:41.560 speech.

00:31:42.900 And this is

00:31:43.620 the kind of

00:31:44.020 thing we

00:31:44.340 really can't

00:31:45.140 tolerate in

00:31:46.880 America.

00:31:47.440 Walmart, by

00:31:48.120 the way, was

00:31:48.740 last seen

00:31:49.540 importing most

00:31:51.140 of its

00:31:51.520 inventory from

00:31:52.540 communist China

00:31:53.500 and laughing

00:31:54.020 all the way

00:31:54.820 to the bank.

00:31:56.360 I'd love to

00:31:57.100 write a book

00:31:57.620 about that.

00:31:58.300 Oh, I

00:31:58.660 did.

00:31:59.060 Death by

00:31:59.520 China.

00:32:01.440 You know,

00:32:01.940 it's just

00:32:02.560 bad.

00:32:02.940 So here's

00:32:03.380 the thing.

00:32:04.480 You can

00:32:04.800 help Mike

00:32:05.780 and help

00:32:07.160 yourself by

00:32:08.020 going to

00:32:08.740 MyPillow.com

00:32:10.220 right now

00:32:11.440 and check

00:32:11.800 out the

00:32:12.140 latest special

00:32:12.900 that Mike

00:32:13.280 has.

00:32:14.940 It's,

00:32:15.640 let me get

00:32:16.280 this right,

00:32:17.380 it's

00:32:18.540 Percale

00:32:19.840 Sheets.

00:32:20.620 These are

00:32:20.940 great sheets,

00:32:22.100 $39.98.

00:32:23.680 All you

00:32:24.060 got to do

00:32:24.520 is use

00:32:25.160 code room

00:32:26.620 war room,

00:32:27.400 right?

00:32:27.880 Code

00:32:28.180 war room.

00:32:29.760 And go

00:32:30.780 support the

00:32:31.800 armor-piercing

00:32:32.480 shell known

00:32:33.480 as Mike

00:32:34.700 Lindell.

00:32:35.940 Okay,

00:32:36.220 when last

00:32:36.920 we spoke

00:32:38.040 before the

00:32:39.040 break,

00:32:39.440 I was with

00:32:40.200 Jeffrey Tucker

00:32:41.120 and we

00:32:42.080 were talking

00:32:42.640 about

00:32:43.300 Deborah

00:32:44.800 Birx and

00:32:46.200 how she

00:32:47.180 was the

00:32:48.560 queen of

00:32:49.520 the economic

00:32:50.220 lockdowns.

00:32:51.200 Before going

00:32:51.740 back to

00:32:52.240 Jeffrey,

00:32:53.140 the one

00:32:53.420 thing I

00:32:54.180 would say

00:32:54.640 in the

00:32:56.620 fog of

00:32:57.300 war,

00:32:57.740 there was

00:32:58.040 this battle

00:32:59.340 inside the

00:33:00.120 White House

00:33:00.860 about what

00:33:02.900 to do about

00:33:03.500 the pandemic,

00:33:04.280 how serious

00:33:04.760 it was in

00:33:05.220 that,

00:33:05.600 when it

00:33:05.820 would be

00:33:06.120 over,

00:33:06.500 this and

00:33:06.760 the other

00:33:07.040 thing.

00:33:08.260 And it'd

00:33:09.660 be interesting

00:33:10.120 to hear

00:33:10.440 Jeffrey talk

00:33:11.140 a little bit

00:33:11.680 also about

00:33:12.580 some of the

00:33:13.020 other players

00:33:14.180 here because

00:33:15.100 Kushner,

00:33:16.380 Jared Kushner,

00:33:18.240 the clown

00:33:18.960 prince as I

00:33:19.780 describe him

00:33:20.480 in the

00:33:21.240 Taking Back

00:33:21.780 Trump's

00:33:22.180 America book,

00:33:23.480 really played

00:33:24.760 a key role

00:33:25.560 in setting

00:33:26.040 the tone

00:33:26.520 and tempo

00:33:27.000 of how we

00:33:27.700 responded to

00:33:29.420 the China

00:33:29.920 virus.

00:33:31.320 And one

00:33:32.000 of the

00:33:32.220 biggest

00:33:32.640 mistakes

00:33:34.480 that Kushner

00:33:35.480 made was

00:33:37.560 to get

00:33:38.780 on TV

00:33:40.880 and basically

00:33:42.860 declare that

00:33:43.780 the pandemic

00:33:44.680 was going to

00:33:45.360 be over by

00:33:46.080 mid-summer.

00:33:46.980 And we'd

00:33:47.260 be, in his

00:33:48.160 words,

00:33:48.440 rocking and

00:33:49.580 rolling as

00:33:50.760 an economy.

00:33:52.140 And boy,

00:33:52.660 did that ever

00:33:53.420 come back

00:33:54.460 to haunt him.

00:33:55.480 And, you

00:33:56.080 know, I

00:33:56.780 spoke early

00:33:59.220 on, you

00:34:01.300 can check

00:34:01.700 this out,

00:34:02.340 it's in the

00:34:02.800 New York

00:34:03.120 Times,

00:34:04.220 about why

00:34:05.580 in the

00:34:07.220 White House

00:34:07.840 and in this

00:34:08.360 country we

00:34:09.080 needed to

00:34:09.760 have an

00:34:10.120 adult

00:34:10.540 conversation

00:34:11.460 about how

00:34:12.920 to balance

00:34:13.820 the need

00:34:15.460 to contain

00:34:16.640 the virus

00:34:17.360 versus

00:34:17.800 the need

00:34:18.960 to have

00:34:20.760 a growing

00:34:21.240 economy

00:34:21.840 and deal

00:34:22.980 with the

00:34:23.500 indirect ways

00:34:24.460 the virus

00:34:24.940 could kill.

00:34:25.580 And my

00:34:26.080 comment to

00:34:28.020 the New York

00:34:28.500 Times at

00:34:29.080 the time

00:34:29.620 contrasted

00:34:31.700 the Burks

00:34:32.900 and Fauci

00:34:33.700 and Redfield

00:34:35.160 and Stephen

00:34:36.320 Hahn and the

00:34:36.920 FDA view

00:34:37.780 of the world,

00:34:38.660 kind of the

00:34:39.000 healthcare

00:34:39.360 bureaucracy,

00:34:40.460 the Azars

00:34:41.080 of this world,

00:34:41.860 all those

00:34:42.380 people who

00:34:42.800 were sticking

00:34:43.200 knives in

00:34:43.800 Trump's back

00:34:44.520 who wanted

00:34:45.520 simply to

00:34:46.740 directly contain

00:34:48.600 the virus

00:34:49.100 by locking

00:34:49.740 people up.

00:34:50.600 That was

00:34:51.080 the way

00:34:52.060 they saw

00:34:52.580 the world.

00:34:53.380 And as a

00:34:54.120 macroeconomist

00:34:55.140 who you're

00:34:55.820 supposed to

00:34:56.240 see the

00:34:57.180 big picture

00:34:57.980 thrust into

00:34:58.720 this whole

00:34:59.180 thing,

00:34:59.900 I'm watching

00:35:00.900 everything

00:35:02.000 unfold and

00:35:03.760 I'm seeing

00:35:05.160 that these

00:35:06.560 lockdowns,

00:35:07.460 first and

00:35:07.820 foremost,

00:35:08.740 could be

00:35:09.460 as deadly

00:35:10.640 a killer

00:35:11.240 as the

00:35:12.540 virus itself.

00:35:13.380 You'd kill

00:35:13.720 people with

00:35:14.140 alcoholism,

00:35:15.880 obesity,

00:35:17.420 people unable

00:35:18.140 to go get

00:35:18.780 their breast

00:35:19.280 cancer biopsies

00:35:20.700 or checkups,

00:35:25.120 anything like

00:35:25.660 that.

00:35:27.960 And not to

00:35:28.640 mention the

00:35:29.260 trillions of

00:35:30.120 dollars in

00:35:30.720 lost economic

00:35:31.560 output,

00:35:32.180 which then

00:35:32.660 lead to

00:35:33.060 unemployment

00:35:33.540 and now

00:35:34.720 a stagflation

00:35:36.380 problem we

00:35:37.040 have.

00:35:37.380 And make no

00:35:37.760 mistake about

00:35:38.460 it,

00:35:38.740 Biden

00:35:41.040 mishandled

00:35:41.780 the post-pandemic

00:35:43.860 way in a

00:35:44.760 way which

00:35:45.140 has given

00:35:45.580 us that.

00:35:46.560 So these

00:35:46.940 were textured

00:35:47.900 difficult

00:35:48.500 problems.

00:35:50.020 And Berks

00:35:51.900 was a very

00:35:52.760 blunt instrument

00:35:53.720 operating in

00:35:56.060 the shadows,

00:35:57.560 pushing kind

00:35:58.640 of the pure

00:35:59.340 healthcare

00:36:00.340 bureaucracy

00:36:01.200 line of

00:36:02.540 lockdowns.

00:36:03.600 But I'd

00:36:04.440 like to get

00:36:04.880 Jeffrey's

00:36:05.420 thought of

00:36:05.840 whether he's

00:36:06.460 looked into

00:36:06.980 kind of the

00:36:08.720 roles that

00:36:09.480 Kushner

00:36:10.400 played,

00:36:11.260 bad

00:36:11.540 personnel

00:36:12.060 there,

00:36:12.520 as I say,

00:36:13.040 in taking

00:36:13.320 back Trump's

00:36:13.880 America,

00:36:14.580 Mark Short,

00:36:15.880 the chief of

00:36:16.480 staff to

00:36:16.920 Pence,

00:36:17.280 Pence himself

00:36:18.020 who appeared

00:36:19.500 to be

00:36:19.960 clueless in

00:36:20.900 Gaza half

00:36:22.140 the time on

00:36:22.800 this,

00:36:23.740 and then

00:36:24.560 Scott Atlas

00:36:25.420 trying to be

00:36:26.020 a countervailing

00:36:26.700 force,

00:36:27.300 and there was

00:36:27.940 Kevin Hassett

00:36:28.660 as well.

00:36:29.040 So Jeffrey,

00:36:29.780 I'm going to

00:36:30.160 turn the

00:36:30.660 mic back to

00:36:32.060 you and let

00:36:32.900 you make

00:36:34.280 some observations

00:36:35.120 on my

00:36:36.060 observations and

00:36:37.060 whatever you

00:36:38.320 saw because

00:36:39.080 you're putting

00:36:40.100 value added

00:36:40.860 here,

00:36:41.140 and I think

00:36:41.420 you're going

00:36:41.640 to write a

00:36:42.040 book about

00:36:42.460 this at

00:36:42.820 some point.

00:36:44.080 Oh,

00:36:44.280 God,

00:36:44.500 I wish I

00:36:44.860 had time.

00:36:46.460 First of all,

00:36:47.000 I want to

00:36:47.280 thank you for

00:36:47.920 your bluntness.

00:36:49.040 I wish we

00:36:49.900 could spend

00:36:50.200 an evening

00:36:50.540 together because

00:36:51.140 I think we

00:36:51.640 could share

00:36:52.200 some war

00:36:52.680 stories.

00:36:53.140 I'm amazed

00:36:53.840 at your

00:36:54.160 comments here.

00:36:55.320 But if you

00:36:55.780 want to know

00:36:56.120 who the

00:36:56.400 conspirators

00:36:56.940 against Trump

00:36:57.640 are,

00:36:58.560 all you have

00:36:58.960 to do is

00:36:59.180 pick up

00:36:59.560 Burke's book

00:37:00.260 and read

00:37:01.280 it because

00:37:02.020 it's everybody

00:37:02.880 she praises.

00:37:03.460 she's a

00:37:06.620 huge fan

00:37:07.280 of,

00:37:07.620 of course,

00:37:08.280 Puttinger

00:37:09.000 and,

00:37:09.840 of course,

00:37:10.920 the son-in-law,

00:37:14.600 whatever you

00:37:15.280 call him,

00:37:15.820 the clown prince,

00:37:17.120 and Redfield,

00:37:18.580 and, of course,

00:37:19.540 Fauci.

00:37:20.800 As you

00:37:21.380 mentioned at

00:37:21.880 the outset,

00:37:22.480 she is not

00:37:23.440 a brave

00:37:24.080 person.

00:37:24.900 And so

00:37:25.020 this is

00:37:25.440 what I

00:37:26.540 would say

00:37:26.860 there's,

00:37:27.220 I have a

00:37:27.580 meta sort

00:37:28.180 of observation

00:37:28.840 about her

00:37:29.360 book.

00:37:29.720 Why is

00:37:30.260 she so

00:37:31.720 brazen

00:37:32.440 about all

00:37:33.460 the ways

00:37:34.020 in which

00:37:34.500 she used

00:37:35.280 subterfuge

00:37:36.020 and,

00:37:37.340 and sneak

00:37:38.240 it.

00:37:38.420 She was

00:37:38.940 basically

00:37:39.480 a player

00:37:41.480 within a

00:37:41.960 shadow

00:37:42.180 government

00:37:42.620 that developed

00:37:43.340 after the

00:37:43.900 lockdowns

00:37:44.320 happened in

00:37:44.680 March.

00:37:45.480 She

00:37:45.680 established

00:37:46.720 the,

00:37:47.320 an administrative

00:37:47.840 state that

00:37:48.860 basically took

00:37:49.620 over the

00:37:49.940 presidency.

00:37:50.600 That's my

00:37:50.980 read of the

00:37:51.360 situation

00:37:51.840 between then

00:37:52.800 and the

00:37:53.060 election to

00:37:53.540 make sure

00:37:53.840 we stayed

00:37:54.200 locked down

00:37:54.660 to make

00:37:54.920 sure that

00:37:55.320 that the

00:37:56.440 American people

00:37:56.960 continue to

00:37:57.620 suffer as

00:37:58.140 much and

00:37:58.820 as long as

00:37:59.220 possible in

00:37:59.720 order to

00:38:00.160 defeat

00:38:00.560 Trump at

00:38:02.260 the polls.

00:38:02.720 And she

00:38:02.940 was instrumental

00:38:03.780 in that.

00:38:04.380 Not just

00:38:04.720 instrumental.

00:38:05.400 She flew

00:38:05.880 around to

00:38:06.540 40 different

00:38:07.780 states and

00:38:09.900 convinced the

00:38:11.060 governors that,

00:38:11.900 oh, they had

00:38:12.400 to reduce

00:38:13.460 capacity

00:38:14.120 restrictions so

00:38:14.820 you couldn't

00:38:15.400 open, you

00:38:16.600 couldn't have

00:38:17.440 sports, you

00:38:18.040 can't have a

00:38:19.100 dinner party at

00:38:19.560 your home, you

00:38:20.460 can't have

00:38:20.820 church, you

00:38:21.780 can't celebrate

00:38:22.380 Thanksgiving.

00:38:23.620 Jeffrey, let

00:38:24.400 me make a

00:38:25.180 quick observation

00:38:25.980 of that because

00:38:26.680 she was so

00:38:28.880 far off the

00:38:29.680 reservation on

00:38:31.400 that.

00:38:31.900 I mean, she

00:38:32.300 was operating

00:38:33.480 as a free

00:38:35.020 agent and

00:38:36.600 look, she

00:38:37.960 was putting

00:38:38.440 her life at

00:38:39.220 risk, I'll

00:38:39.740 give her that

00:38:40.620 because she

00:38:41.380 was flying

00:38:42.060 repeatedly into

00:38:43.720 hot zones, but

00:38:45.280 there was nobody

00:38:46.180 telling her what

00:38:48.340 she could or

00:38:48.980 couldn't do, she

00:38:49.980 just did what

00:38:51.420 she thought was

00:38:52.600 the right thing

00:38:54.000 to do and as

00:38:55.000 it would turn

00:38:55.600 out, it was

00:38:56.840 often absolutely

00:38:58.060 the wrong thing

00:38:58.980 to do.

00:38:59.320 So, that's

00:39:01.840 kind of the

00:39:02.260 subtext there.

00:39:03.560 I think that's

00:39:04.100 right, but I

00:39:04.680 think what you're

00:39:05.520 doing, and I

00:39:06.240 think it's

00:39:06.500 correct, you're

00:39:07.080 speaking as a

00:39:08.360 person who

00:39:08.760 was within the

00:39:10.460 White House,

00:39:10.900 right?

00:39:11.180 So, on one

00:39:11.740 hand, you had

00:39:12.580 the White House

00:39:13.300 giving orders

00:39:16.980 and setting

00:39:17.900 priorities and

00:39:18.860 there's Trump

00:39:19.580 speaking and

00:39:20.500 there's press

00:39:21.380 conferences and

00:39:22.260 you're monitoring

00:39:22.840 the press and

00:39:23.480 everything.

00:39:23.820 On the other

00:39:24.360 hand, you had

00:39:24.920 this sort

00:39:25.280 of rogue

00:39:26.200 regime of

00:39:29.240 Fauci and

00:39:30.280 Birx and

00:39:31.520 Redfield and

00:39:33.140 really this

00:39:34.080 administrative

00:39:34.840 bureaucracy that

00:39:35.780 was working

00:39:36.580 across purposes

00:39:38.080 with what the

00:39:38.740 and I'm not

00:39:40.120 making this up,

00:39:40.840 right?

00:39:41.020 This is what she

00:39:41.620 says and she

00:39:42.400 brags about

00:39:43.140 The thing I

00:39:45.200 would say that

00:39:45.920 the granularity

00:39:47.820 here that I

00:39:48.360 would add to

00:39:48.980 this is that

00:39:50.440 I think you're

00:39:51.720 right that the

00:39:52.440 healthcare deep

00:39:54.980 administrative state

00:39:56.340 had this

00:39:57.380 lockdown anti-Trump

00:39:59.260 point of view.

00:39:59.980 I mean, they

00:40:00.260 had key missions

00:40:02.980 were to make

00:40:03.500 Fauci the god,

00:40:04.600 Trump the

00:40:05.060 villain, and

00:40:06.080 push the

00:40:06.480 lockdowns, okay?

00:40:07.800 So, there was

00:40:08.680 that but I

00:40:09.600 think part of

00:40:10.100 the story you're

00:40:10.720 missing here,

00:40:11.340 Jeffrey, is the

00:40:12.820 other players in

00:40:14.460 there.

00:40:14.780 You're asking the

00:40:16.080 Trump White House

00:40:17.040 to have a

00:40:17.660 coherent strategy

00:40:19.180 when in fact you

00:40:20.480 had a bunch of

00:40:21.160 these bad

00:40:21.680 personnel that

00:40:22.420 I talk about

00:40:23.060 in the Taking

00:40:23.460 Back Trump's

00:40:24.020 America book,

00:40:24.660 like Kushner

00:40:25.300 pursuing his

00:40:26.300 own agenda.

00:40:27.580 You had Mark

00:40:28.480 Short, the

00:40:29.340 VP's chief of

00:40:30.360 staff, pushing

00:40:31.380 his own agenda.

00:40:32.980 You had Atlas

00:40:33.980 trying to push

00:40:34.680 back against it.

00:40:35.620 There's a funny

00:40:36.160 story about

00:40:36.720 Birx, you know,

00:40:37.240 when she came,

00:40:37.940 when Pottinger

00:40:38.440 brought her in,

00:40:39.460 she was supposed

00:40:39.960 to get a big

00:40:40.620 office over in

00:40:41.480 the EEOB with

00:40:42.600 a bunch of

00:40:43.080 staff, and

00:40:44.160 they stuck her

00:40:45.620 in this windowless

00:40:47.980 tiny cubicle down

00:40:49.600 in the basement

00:40:50.400 of the White

00:40:51.000 House, thinking

00:40:52.080 that they could

00:40:52.720 contain her, and

00:40:54.100 the way she

00:40:55.520 escaped that

00:40:56.200 box, probably

00:40:57.320 why she wanted

00:40:57.940 to get out of

00:40:58.540 the White

00:40:59.660 House all the

00:41:00.280 time, was to

00:41:01.700 go out on the

00:41:02.340 road and preach

00:41:03.380 the gospel of

00:41:04.260 Birx, scarves

00:41:05.920 of flying.

00:41:06.620 I mean, it was

00:41:07.060 just all so

00:41:08.680 bad personnel

00:41:10.200 wrong.

00:41:11.780 I 100% agree.

00:41:15.120 But as you

00:41:15.820 said at the

00:41:16.140 outset, she is

00:41:16.740 not a brave

00:41:17.220 person.

00:41:17.760 She had

00:41:18.220 benefactors.

00:41:19.000 She knew she

00:41:20.120 would be

00:41:21.080 protected.

00:41:22.360 There's a lot

00:41:23.200 of money that

00:41:23.860 was behind the

00:41:26.080 effort to unseat

00:41:27.060 Trump and to

00:41:27.880 keep the economy

00:41:28.480 locked down and

00:41:30.020 to basically ruin

00:41:32.560 American freedoms

00:41:33.460 and law for a

00:41:36.720 full year going

00:41:37.580 into the November

00:41:38.340 election.

00:41:39.020 She had full

00:41:40.160 confidence that she

00:41:41.020 had backing.

00:41:42.140 I see her as a,

00:41:43.040 what's the right

00:41:43.740 word?

00:41:44.220 Like a, I don't

00:41:45.080 know, she was a

00:41:45.620 tool of something

00:41:47.160 to somebody and

00:41:47.920 I guess you

00:41:48.380 would say it's

00:41:48.940 Fauci.

00:41:49.780 Well, it was

00:41:50.080 Kushner.

00:41:51.260 I mean, it was

00:41:51.880 Kushner and

00:41:53.680 Pottinger.

00:41:54.700 I mean, they

00:41:55.020 brought her in

00:41:55.940 for a very

00:41:57.100 specific purpose.

00:41:58.860 She did

00:41:59.400 whatever she

00:42:00.580 was told to

00:42:01.260 buy them.

00:42:03.020 And, you

00:42:03.320 know, that was

00:42:03.780 the politics of

00:42:05.040 dysfunction in

00:42:05.840 the White House.

00:42:06.720 And, I mean,

00:42:07.420 it's like the

00:42:08.160 Taking Back

00:42:08.640 Trump's America

00:42:09.240 book is going

00:42:09.820 to be an

00:42:10.760 epiphany for

00:42:11.560 America because

00:42:12.380 I don't hold

00:42:13.340 anything back with

00:42:14.220 respect to the

00:42:14.820 clown prince.

00:42:15.540 I mean, Kushner,

00:42:16.080 between Kushner

00:42:17.320 and Mnuchin,

00:42:18.000 it's a toss-up as

00:42:19.360 to who was more

00:42:20.040 destructive to

00:42:21.280 Trump.

00:42:21.940 And I think if

00:42:22.560 either one of

00:42:23.300 them hadn't been

00:42:23.980 in the White

00:42:24.460 House to begin

00:42:25.100 with, Trump

00:42:25.840 would still be

00:42:26.440 there.

00:42:26.780 That's how much

00:42:27.500 damage they

00:42:28.460 did.

00:42:29.120 But it's a

00:42:30.160 nuanced story.

00:42:32.040 Anyway, I'll

00:42:32.460 let you have the

00:42:33.020 last word.

00:42:33.640 We've got about

00:42:34.160 60 seconds.

00:42:35.600 Give your social

00:42:36.220 media stuff and

00:42:37.480 take your last

00:42:38.920 shot, sir.

00:42:39.780 But I want

00:42:40.720 Burke's book to

00:42:42.360 be read because

00:42:42.940 people need to

00:42:43.500 know she altered

00:42:44.320 CDC reports.

00:42:45.360 She changed

00:42:46.360 policy on her

00:42:47.140 own, conspiring

00:42:47.820 personally with

00:42:48.620 Redfield and

00:42:49.980 Kushner and

00:42:51.180 Meadows and

00:42:53.120 Pottinger and

00:42:54.020 so on.

00:42:54.680 There were

00:42:55.040 weekly reports

00:42:55.900 coming out from

00:42:56.580 the White

00:42:57.020 House for that

00:42:58.480 entire year

00:42:59.320 2020.

00:43:00.580 The White

00:43:00.920 House had

00:43:01.300 never approved

00:43:02.460 and she brags

00:43:03.500 in her book how

00:43:04.340 everybody was too

00:43:05.720 lazy to look at

00:43:06.380 them.

00:43:06.640 She got them

00:43:07.280 through anyway.

00:43:08.100 Anyway, we're

00:43:08.600 investigating all

00:43:09.420 this and much

00:43:10.160 more.

00:43:11.160 The economic

00:43:11.620 response, the

00:43:12.480 public health

00:43:13.020 elements of

00:43:14.020 it, at

00:43:14.380 brownstone.org.

00:43:16.780 Peter, I think

00:43:17.620 we're just really

00:43:18.460 in the beginning

00:43:18.980 stages of this.

00:43:21.200 The American

00:43:21.620 people need

00:43:23.120 answers.

00:43:24.980 We need answers.

00:43:28.160 And my view is

00:43:29.560 that everything

00:43:30.040 is going to

00:43:30.440 come out.

00:43:30.860 The question

00:43:31.280 is what are

00:43:32.140 we going to

00:43:32.760 do about it?

00:43:33.880 That's when we

00:43:34.580 need to get

00:43:35.000 very serious.

00:43:35.980 Thank you,

00:43:36.340 Peter, for

00:43:36.680 having me.

00:43:37.080 I do have to

00:43:37.500 take you back

00:43:38.380 Trump's

00:43:38.720 America has

00:43:39.280 some answers

00:43:39.780 about that.

00:43:40.500 Bad personnel

00:43:41.060 is bad

00:43:41.860 politics,

00:43:42.540 Jeffrey.

00:43:42.920 Thanks for

00:43:43.440 having me,

00:43:44.000 Brownstone

00:43:44.340 Institute.

00:43:45.040 It's a great

00:43:45.660 contribution.

00:43:46.780 We'll be back

00:43:47.760 in the war

00:43:48.400 room.

00:43:49.180 We are going

00:43:50.280 to our

00:43:50.920 southern border

00:43:51.920 under assault

00:43:52.900 right now.

00:43:58.740 Friends,

00:43:59.580 when America's

00:44:00.320 farmers themselves

00:44:01.240 start warning us

00:44:02.140 about impending

00:44:02.980 unavoidable food

00:44:04.260 shortages, do you

00:44:05.720 think there might

00:44:06.440 be a problem in

00:44:07.180 this country?

00:44:07.960 Well, you bet

00:44:08.360 there is.

00:44:09.380 Fertilizer shortages

00:44:10.300 are going to

00:44:11.060 impact you and

00:44:11.880 your family very,

00:44:13.600 very soon.

00:44:14.220 That's why I

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00:44:16.740 and go to

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00:44:39.120 hits, and

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00:46:00.440 supply chain issues, and

00:46:02.080 workforce challenges.

00:46:05.580 Peter K. Navarro in for

00:46:07.320 Stephen K.

00:46:08.220 Bannon here in the

00:46:10.220 war room.

00:46:11.680 I think it's always

00:46:12.980 useful to preface a

00:46:15.640 visit to our southern

00:46:16.840 border with a review of

00:46:19.280 where the economy's at,

00:46:20.900 and you can see from

00:46:21.820 that clip that even the

00:46:23.760 left-wing media is now

00:46:26.280 clutching their pearls

00:46:27.480 about a truly difficult

00:46:30.900 situation which is

00:46:32.440 coming.

00:46:33.640 And I pose the

00:46:35.500 question as we hover

00:46:37.920 on recession, or

00:46:41.880 probably in one, and

00:46:43.420 as real incomes and

00:46:46.840 purchasing power are

00:46:48.060 falling so that

00:46:49.180 whatever people are

00:46:50.420 earning on a weekly

00:46:51.380 basis is buying them

00:46:52.960 less each week.

00:46:54.820 What happens to our

00:46:58.000 most vulnerable black

00:47:00.100 and brown and blue

00:47:01.080 collar workers when

00:47:03.920 when the Biden

00:47:06.120 regime allows over

00:47:08.660 two million, two

00:47:10.180 million illegal

00:47:11.180 aliens to flood

00:47:12.280 across our border on

00:47:14.000 an annual basis?

00:47:15.160 and when those

00:47:18.780 illegal aliens, and

00:47:20.560 that's what they are,

00:47:21.800 political correctness,

00:47:23.500 not in our

00:47:25.240 lexicon, what

00:47:26.620 happens when those

00:47:27.460 illegal aliens who are

00:47:28.960 poorly educated

00:47:30.160 start competing with

00:47:32.560 black and brown and

00:47:33.820 blue collar Americans?

00:47:35.060 Americans, and you

00:47:36.220 know exactly what

00:47:37.060 happens.

00:47:38.600 Americans get pushed

00:47:40.240 out of jobs and or

00:47:43.620 they see their wages

00:47:45.360 depressed.

00:47:47.380 And that's the

00:47:48.240 subtext for what

00:47:49.600 we're going to see

00:47:50.280 and talk about now as

00:47:51.500 we go to the great

00:47:52.840 Oscar at the southern

00:47:54.300 border to talk about

00:47:55.580 the latest indignities

00:47:57.820 this country is

00:47:58.860 suffering.

00:47:59.660 Sir, Oscar, how

00:48:00.560 are you doing today?

00:48:02.900 Good evening, Mr.

00:48:04.040 Navarro.

00:48:04.560 Yes, we are located

00:48:05.380 right here in between

00:48:06.580 the limitations of the

00:48:07.720 River Suchiata between

00:48:08.880 Guatemala and Mexico.

00:48:10.080 Today, no mainstream

00:48:11.800 media has found this

00:48:13.020 in Real America's

00:48:13.860 Voice News and us.

00:48:14.840 We discovered the

00:48:16.100 Operation Mirror that

00:48:17.480 is a complete optic.

00:48:19.080 It is just a photo

00:48:19.900 op being done by the

00:48:21.440 Guatemala government

00:48:22.220 with the Mexican

00:48:22.980 government.

00:48:24.060 They were doing it

00:48:25.220 right today as they

00:48:26.560 were trying to stop

00:48:27.320 traffickers on the

00:48:28.180 east side of this

00:48:29.320 river where they are

00:48:30.460 trafficking hundreds of

00:48:32.160 migrants through the

00:48:33.460 daily day basis as the

00:48:34.820 Biden administration is

00:48:35.860 the greatest

00:48:36.240 incentivizer of the

00:48:37.440 whole continent for

00:48:38.620 smugglers across the

00:48:39.660 world.

00:48:40.340 And today, this

00:48:41.040 operation that is called

00:48:42.140 Operation Mirror that

00:48:43.080 is also being done on

00:48:44.540 the state of Coahuila

00:48:45.380 that connects to Texas,

00:48:46.840 it looks like a photo

00:48:48.080 op, Mr. Navarro.

00:48:48.960 They stay here for two

00:48:50.720 hours.

00:48:51.160 They operate for two

00:48:52.140 hours.

00:48:52.840 But the rest of the

00:48:53.580 day, they are

00:48:54.460 trafficking gasoline.

00:48:55.540 They are trafficking

00:48:56.040 humans.

00:48:56.880 And God knows what

00:48:57.840 happens late in the

00:48:58.940 afternoon.

00:48:59.400 God knows what happens

00:49:00.360 late at night when

00:49:02.960 they're trafficking

00:49:03.440 drugs and all this

00:49:04.440 other situations that

00:49:05.980 they involved national

00:49:07.480 security for Mexico and

00:49:08.860 also, you know, national

00:49:10.000 security for Guatemala.

00:49:11.340 But this is what is

00:49:12.460 happening currently right

00:49:13.440 now.

00:49:13.860 And also for you to

00:49:15.300 know, Mr. Navarro,

00:49:16.080 breaking news as what is

00:49:17.220 right now.

00:49:18.140 One governmental

00:49:19.320 official from the

00:49:20.340 Institute of National of

00:49:21.280 Immigration just

00:49:22.640 announced in the

00:49:23.540 installation of

00:49:24.240 regulation for documents

00:49:25.340 that the installations

00:49:26.800 for documents has

00:49:27.980 collapsed.

00:49:29.100 And by that, that

00:49:30.520 means that more than

00:49:31.380 6,000 migrants that

00:49:32.660 we reported yesterday

00:49:34.100 that they are waiting

00:49:35.020 for documents.

00:49:36.120 They just announced

00:49:36.840 that they are going to

00:49:37.560 move on a caravan on

00:49:38.780 the next incoming day

00:49:39.620 to the northern

00:49:40.080 border, sir.

00:49:43.040 Oscar, let me take a

00:49:44.960 wild guess here.

00:49:46.760 Clearly, having this

00:49:49.520 flood of illegal aliens

00:49:51.020 coming across

00:49:52.780 Guatemalan soil, Mexican

00:49:54.900 soil, is not good for

00:49:59.660 those countries.

00:50:02.420 Yet, if you are a

00:50:06.180 government official in

00:50:07.980 Guatemala or Mexico or

00:50:10.700 Honduras, most likely

00:50:15.660 you're presented with

00:50:17.000 bribes and or the threat

00:50:20.260 of being assassinated.

00:50:23.240 And therefore, you do

00:50:24.960 what's not in the best

00:50:26.100 interest of your country.

00:50:27.320 Am I wrong in making

00:50:29.540 that observation?

00:50:31.700 No, you're absolutely

00:50:32.760 correct.

00:50:33.320 That is the most, you

00:50:34.540 know, the asylum and

00:50:35.980 refugee has become the

00:50:37.700 most lucrative business

00:50:38.720 in the whole continent

00:50:39.560 of America.

00:50:40.100 And they're exploding

00:50:41.180 that in the United

00:50:42.520 States of America by,

00:50:43.960 you know, NGOs,

00:50:45.840 non-governmental

00:50:46.640 organizations, and also

00:50:47.740 the United Nations that

00:50:48.980 now has infiltrated the

00:50:50.640 United States government

00:50:51.460 by the Biden and

00:50:52.600 Harris administration

00:50:53.460 admitting to beating

00:50:54.700 collaborators to the

00:50:55.840 global compact on

00:50:56.720 migration.

00:50:57.320 That that is the root

00:50:58.360 of the problem.

00:50:58.920 That is the main, the

00:51:00.500 main corruption root of

00:51:01.980 the problem, the global

00:51:02.860 compact on migration.

00:51:04.000 But ultimately, this

00:51:05.380 corruption that you're

00:51:06.200 mentioning, Mr.

00:51:06.880 Navarro, it comes from

00:51:08.080 all South of America.

00:51:09.860 The Biden administration

00:51:10.920 has made it clear with

00:51:13.140 the incompetence of

00:51:14.420 Alejandro Mayorkas to

00:51:15.900 incentivize all the mass

00:51:18.320 migration all the way to

00:51:19.900 the norm border, sir.

00:51:20.860 And that is the number

00:51:21.960 one problem.

00:51:22.540 Are you seeing any kind of

00:51:27.360 remedies coming from

00:51:29.820 anybody?

00:51:30.600 Or is this just bad, bad,

00:51:33.680 bad and getting worse,

00:51:34.940 worse, worse?

00:51:36.640 It's going to get worse

00:51:37.860 and it's going to get

00:51:38.720 worse during as time is

00:51:40.540 flooding by.

00:51:41.720 They're already organizing

00:51:43.300 and they're speculating for

00:51:44.480 next year, entering next

00:51:45.560 year in January.

00:51:46.180 More than 20,000 migrants

00:51:48.000 that they are going across

00:51:49.100 on a caravan.

00:51:50.200 They're forming and

00:51:50.840 conforming another caravan.

00:51:52.380 This is a non-ending

00:51:53.520 effect.

00:51:54.300 The problem is the

00:51:55.420 traffickers, the smugglers,

00:51:57.000 that they are continuously

00:51:57.900 making millions out of,

00:51:59.700 you know, out of humans.

00:52:01.080 It's this modern day

00:52:02.000 slavery and it is a

00:52:03.400 non-stop effect, sir.

00:52:05.400 And therefore, all the

00:52:07.100 money they're making

00:52:08.080 allows them to build up

00:52:09.440 this human conveyor belt

00:52:11.960 that stretches all the way

00:52:14.080 to Brazil, which I think

00:52:16.820 is where a lot of this

00:52:18.160 immigration comes.

00:52:19.200 Oscar, you're doing a

00:52:20.680 great job down there.

00:52:21.700 We appreciate it.

00:52:23.160 Give people now your

00:52:24.440 social media and we're

00:52:25.680 going to have to bid you

00:52:26.560 adieu for the day.

00:52:28.460 Thanks so much for the

00:52:29.640 invitation.

00:52:30.200 Oscar Blue on Getter,

00:52:31.040 Oscar Blue on YouTube,

00:52:32.120 Oscar Blue on Facebook,

00:52:33.460 OscarBlueRamirez.com

00:52:34.680 on our website and also

00:52:35.880 RealAmerica'sVoiceNews.com,

00:52:37.860 sir.

00:52:38.020 Thank you.

00:52:40.140 Oscar, I can't thank you

00:52:41.720 enough for your courage.

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00:52:50.320 war room is proud, proud

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