Episode 2063： Grenell, Gaetz, Devine： The Administrative State Has Been Weaponized Against The American People; We Are Witnessing A Craven Attack Against Trump And MAGA
In the wake of the raid at President Trump's Mar-a-largo on Friday night, former FBI Director Robert Mueller and his team of agents raided the president's home and seized documents from his office. On the heels of this, former Vice President Joe Biden announces his plans to run for president in 2022.
00:02:55.000They rented a rider truck so that people with guns could jump out of the back of it.
00:03:00.000There was even a tense standoff at the beginning of this raid because there were folks at the Secret Service who were wondering whether or not there even was a warrant.
00:03:09.000When lawyers began asking if they could see the warrant, there was initially reticence on the part of the FBI to even show it.
00:03:16.000They just wanted to storm the place like the East German Stasi.
00:03:20.000You know, this is, in my opinion, the most defining moment of the Joe Biden presidency.
00:03:27.000Before this, it would have been Afghanistan, but other American presidents have failed withdrawals.
00:03:32.000Here, you have something no other American president has ever done.
00:03:37.000It is laughable, the reports out of the White House, that they were not involved in this decision.
00:03:44.000The Democrats have got their polling back on the Inflation Reduction Act, and they know it's a total zero.
00:03:50.000At the same time, they see that we are closing in on Hunter Biden with all of the records we already have from the laptop.
00:03:58.000And they see the political winds at our back where we're going to be able to pull those investigative threads with subpoena power, with in-depth depositions, with all of the investigative tools we would have in the majority that we don't have now.
00:04:11.000Now, they see that President Trump has a job approval in the 80s right now, about to announce his campaign.
00:04:18.000And so they're trying to create this air of criminality around him, but I really don't think it'll work.
00:04:24.000So if that's the diagnosis, my assessment is the antidote has to be not one more damn penny for this administrative state that has been weaponized against our people in a very fascist way.
00:04:37.000You know, they want to, you know, ensure that they centralize this power.
00:04:43.000And so it's my perspective that if they want to limit the choices of voters with this performative activity, then we ought to limit the resources that they have to be able to execute on it.
00:04:55.000I have never seen a coalescing of the Republicans like I've seen over the last 24 hours.
00:05:01.000I mean, you've got people who don't even like Trump, like Asa Hutchinson, the governor of Arkansas, people all over this country.
00:05:07.000I've had so many moderates and centrists in the Congress texting me saying, we are ready for this battle.
00:05:13.000Let us put on the armor of God and go fight.
00:05:16.000So this is a terrible day for America.
00:05:21.000But I actually think, Steve, we're going to look back at this as a galvanizing moment for our movement, because now we see clearly what the fight is and what we have to do about it.
00:05:32.000Matt, Matt, hang on for one second. Do I have Ambassador Grinnell ready? Let's go to, I want to bring Ambassador Grinnell for just a minute, Congressman Gates.
00:05:40.000Ambassador Grinnell, can we have your, you're one of the closest senior people to President Trump.
00:05:45.000You've been in many of the fights with us. Give us your perspective, sir.
00:05:48.000Well, he's stronger this morning. There's no question about it. I agree with Matt there.
00:05:56.000I think that, you know, when you look across the spectrum of the United States, first and second generation Americans, which traditionally have not voted for Republicans, have overwhelmingly raised their voice of concern.
00:06:12.000They're like the canaries in the coal mine. First and second generation Americans are seeing what is happening to this country and coming over to conservative principles and voting Republican like never before.
00:06:23.000They understand this because they left fascism and totalitarianism. They know this.
00:06:30.000Steve, I worked at the State Department for 11 years, as you know, and when we see this type of political prosecution going against your political enemies to try to get them to not run, we usually put it in the human rights report.
00:06:45.000We condemn it at the State Department. We call it out. Sometimes these other countries suffer in their relationship with the United States.
00:06:52.000I never thought that I would see this in America, but this is happening. And I think very clearly, I see very clearly that Americans across the spectrum, left, right and center, are very concerned at the authoritarianism of this left wing administration.
00:07:14.000And this is a terrible precedent. And this is a terrible precedent for people like Susan Rice, for people like Ron Klain.
00:07:21.000They have to be looking at this and saying, but this is a terrible precedent. I hope that we can dial this back somehow. But make no mistake, conservatives, Republicans, Trump supporters, they are all totally focused.
00:07:38.000They're geared up. I'll finish with this. You're listening to War Room right now. Gone is the day where you get to just listen to a whole bunch of other people talk about fighting.
00:07:49.000If you are not gearing up to fight yourself, bring your strong voice to social media. Maybe you have to write a bigger check. But every single person listening to this War Room broadcast right now has to ask themselves on a daily basis, what are you doing to save this country?
00:08:09.000It is no longer appropriate to sit back and hope that someone else does something.
00:08:14.000That's perfect. That's why I wanted to have this. The people we have on today are the leaders of this fight, but we're all in this fight.
00:08:21.720That's what this is an activist show. I want everybody to talk about that in a little while.
00:08:26.000But Ambassador Grinnell is right. Before I go back to Congressman Gates, Ambassador, you were selected.
00:08:31.520You've 11 years in the State Department. You were selected by Trump to be ambassador to Germany.
00:08:34.920And then he brought you back. One of the things you did, you were the interim head, the director of national intelligence.
00:08:40.360I think one of the things that are most shocking to the average citizen is to see the FBI and the national security state do this.
00:08:47.780What's your perspective? I mean, we talk about the administrative state.
00:08:51.220You just heard Congressman Gates give the details of actually storming Mar-a-Lago, the president's historic winter address that is just so iconic throughout the globe.
00:09:03.480And given the fact that you've been in the apparatus, how could they even thinking, how could they even think to do this, sir?
00:09:11.820Well, it's clearly to me through my experience at D&I that this is about the leadership of the FBI and DOJ.
00:09:18.900I have too much experience with trying to declassify or unredact information that I was told originally was redacted by FBI agents.
00:09:32.560And when I sought out who those particular people were and I went and I looked them in the eye and I said, why did you classify this?
00:09:41.660Why is it redacted? Why do you think this is a source or a method?
00:09:44.960That they looked at me and said, actually, I don't believe that even though my name is on it.
00:09:50.820My bosses did that. That was done at a higher level.
00:09:55.100And that's what really empowered me to say that we have a lot of FBI agents who actually are uncomfortable with the leadership.
00:10:04.160And we have to hold the leadership accountable. This is America. Chris Ray needs to be hauled in front of Congress.
00:10:10.020I'm tired of Congress talking a big game. They've got to call these people in and use every single tool that they have to put them in a position where they're answering these questions.
00:10:23.320And maybe we're at the point where we have to start impeaching people.
00:10:27.700But, you know, I see Steve on the left, a whole bunch of people who are saying, you know, this is justice.
00:10:32.060This is the American system working. And what they miss, and I think it's very clear what they are missing is the multiple examples of lies that the security state and the DOJ have pushed.
00:10:46.080I mean, look no further than the FISA warrant that they all were convinced was the truth that turned out to be totally phony and they missed it.
00:10:55.220Look at the Russian collusion. Look what they've done on Hunter Biden's laptop with big tech completely shutting down anyone that talks about this.
00:11:03.520What we have a problem in Washington with is the state bureaucracy, big tech, big corporations is trying to crush dissenting voices.
00:11:16.200And that before I go back to before I go back to Gates for a second, you don't believe you just said you don't think this went all the way up to the White House.
00:11:24.080You don't believe the chief of staff, Ron Klain, had to sign off on this.
00:11:26.800Do you think you believe that Merrick Garland was Merrick Garland did not inform the White House and did not go to Ron Klain with at least a heads up or a, hey, you got to sign off on this?
00:11:39.080So there's no question that there was no sign off. They would keep the White House away from this move.
00:11:44.460But it depends on what you call inform. You know, you work at the White House, Steve.
00:11:50.660You know how these things work. Do you do you know about it is one thing.
00:11:56.480But did you sign off formally is quite another.
00:12:00.560Congressman Gates, let me bring you in here. I got a lot to do.
00:12:02.800The whistleblower. I want to ask you to hold through the next break.
00:12:05.620But your assessment, was this at Merrick Garland level? You think Ron Klain level?
00:12:10.420Do you think you agree with Ambassador Grinnell that the White House would want to stay as far away from this as possible?
00:12:16.680I agree with Ambassador Grinnell on most things, but not this one.
00:12:20.900I do not believe that the Justice Department would feel the agency to define the entire presidency of Joe Biden in such a severe and striking way without getting permission.
00:12:34.320You know, I've often joked that Joe Biden is captive to the Venezuela wing of the Democratic Party.
00:12:40.640But when you crush your people with inflation and then investigate your political opponents and raid their homes, you are truly enabling the Venezuelification of the United States of America.
00:12:54.140I mean, you know, carjackings in city centers at broad daylight and raids on your political opponents, that's behavior we're used to seeing in the poorest and most desperate countries in the world.
00:13:07.360And now we are seeing those things in our United States of America.
00:13:11.780And, you know, Rick Grinnell did make a terrific point about how this is going to be viewed around the world.
00:13:16.880And one question I would have for Ambassador Grinnell is, will we see this terrible action by the Biden administration used by other fascist totalitarian regimes to justify political violence and suppression of dissent?
00:13:33.240How could you not see Xi or Putin or Maduro or anyone else saying, well, gosh, yeah, of course I'm investigating someone who might run against me.
00:13:43.020Of course I'm, you know, using law enforcement for political enforcement because that's what we see Joe Biden doing in the United States of America.
00:13:51.680Grinnell made another great point about the fact that there are some good people in these agencies.
00:13:57.260I know that there are war room watchers who are in the FBI and DOJ and they hate what they are seeing to their agency.
00:14:04.760And I'm telling you, Steve, the explosion of whistleblower activity we are seeing right now is unprecedented in the history of Congress and it is only accelerating.
00:14:15.580Ambassador Grinnell, could you hold for a few minutes to the break?
00:15:00.840When your nation's supposed authority on economic policy completely misses the flashing red lights of impending inflation.
00:15:09.520Now, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has finally admitted, quote, there's been an unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks.
00:15:21.380They're affected our economy badly that I didn't at the time fully understand.
00:16:39.740It's Tuesday, 9 August, year of our Lord, 2022.
00:16:42.560A day that will live in infamy was yesterday, the 8th of August, at Mar-a-Lago, an FBI raid on the President of the United States, Donald J.
00:16:51.260I want to go back to Ambassador Grinnell.
00:16:52.720So, Ambassador, there was a big outpouring.
00:16:54.780There's a news story up on Creative Destruction Media, L.
00:16:57.740Todd Wood and the team, about an outrage of the Hispanic and Cuban community in South Florida for what they saw, talking about, you know, this reminds them of what they've escaped from.
00:17:08.260What's your sense of how this is going to play out, Ambassador Grinnell?
00:17:11.240Is this going to be a unifying moment for all the conservatives, the MAGA movement, and the Republicans as you see it?
00:17:17.520Not only conservatives and Republicans, but all first and second generation Americans.
00:17:23.300Look, we've got a problem in this country with fifth, sixth, seventh generation white liberals who, frankly, haven't traveled the world enough.
00:17:30.140They don't understand that America is the greatest place because we have a balanced judicial system.
00:17:36.860And when first and second generation Americans see this, but let's be clear, Steve, this is not the first time.
00:17:44.040This is putting a lot more people over the edge.
00:17:47.380But I've seen in my travels around this country, first and second generation Americans who five, six, seven months ago were watching and seeing this tipping point.
00:17:59.020They were watching as big tech shut down dissenting voices.
00:18:14.040And I think that's what we have to say to these fifth, sixth, seventh generation white liberals who have taught their kids to put their fingers in their ear and run out of the room when they hear something they don't like.
00:18:25.580And so what we saw yesterday was a culmination of the deep state coming together and literally pretending like dissenting voices don't exist or needing to be crushed.
00:18:39.580And that's scary. And I and I see this around the world in my travels around the world.
00:18:44.640I've been hearing warnings from heads of state, from people in government, from literally other countries that you would be surprised saying, what is happening in America?
00:18:56.000So I do think that this is a unifying moment, but it's a culmination of what's been happening during the Biden administration.
00:20:06.080How could this possibly be about this archives fight that President Trump appears to have been having since he left the White House?
00:20:14.240Is that what this is really about, Miranda Devine?
00:20:16.700Well, that's certainly what someone at the FBI or DOJ leaked last night to the New York Times, that it was just about these presidential records.
00:20:26.180But that seems odd, considering that the boxes that were packed up from the White House were packed up by the GSA.
00:20:36.980They have been in a locked room at Mar-a-Lago.
00:20:40.780President Trump's lawyer, Eric Corcoran, has been basically cooperating with the FBI.
00:20:48.060The FBI came out a couple of months ago and had a look at those records and had free reign to do what they liked with them.
00:20:56.060So, if this is the case, they have had to convince a judge in Florida that on Friday, when this sealed search warrant was signed, they've had to convince him that there is some predicate, some excuse for this raid, why they can't just keep cooperating like they did with so many other people.
00:21:18.500For instance, Hillary Clinton, over the same issue, I mean, it really is extraordinary that the Attorney General Merrick Garland, Ron Klain, you would expect in the White House, Christopher Wray, the FBI Director, would have all had to sign off on this to take this unprecedented move, very political move, to raid the home of a former president and who is likely to be the 2024 presidential candidate.
00:21:47.160That is as political as it gets, right before the midterms, and to make those decisions, they have put the reputation of the FBI on the line as if it wasn't already bad enough.
00:22:04.180I just want to make sure, because I'm going to go back to Gates, because Ambassador Grinnell may disagree a bit.
00:22:08.560Do you believe, actually, as I do and Gates does, that Ron Klain would have had to have signed off on this and given some acknowledgement that this is a bet the Biden presidency move?
00:22:19.000Ambassador Gates was of the opinion that, hey, the White House, that Merrick Garland would want to keep them totally isolated from this, and he and Ray would have made that decision.
00:22:28.840Well, I mean, maybe that's the case, but I doubt very much that the White House wasn't aware of what was going on.
00:22:37.640They would have at least been given the heads up.
00:22:39.940We know that this search warrant was signed on Friday, and Christopher Wray appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday and gave that really unsatisfactory, disingenuous testimony.
00:22:53.740When there were questions, bipartisan questions about deep concerns with the FBI's performance and corruption, whistleblowers telling Chuck Grasley about agents burying the Hunter Biden material in October of 2020, pretending dismissing it as Russian disinformation.
00:23:13.020When we know that the DNI at the time, John Ratcliffe, when the Attorney General at the time, Bill Barr, and Christopher Wray himself had all come out with statements to rebut Adam Schiff's lies that it was Russian disinformation.
00:23:28.360So inside the FBI, they were working against the stated opinion of, or not opinion, factual statement of their boss, Christopher Wray, and the DNI.
00:23:39.520So, you know, those questions were incredibly important, and others about Larry Nassar and so on, and Chris Wray didn't answer them satisfactorily, and then he cut his performance short at 1.30 with very little notice.
00:23:56.680He said he had to get somewhere urgent on the FBI's private jet.
00:24:02.420Chuck Grasley said, well, it's your private jet.
00:24:04.980Why can't you just delay it a little so we can ask a couple more questions?
00:24:08.720And no, no, that wasn't possible, Chris Wray.
00:24:12.120But when you look and see what the trajectory was of the destination of that FBI plane that afternoon, it was to the Adirondacks, which is where Christopher Wray has spent his summers at the family home since he was a child.
00:24:29.780Matt Gaetz, Congressman Gaetz, can you just give us the details again?
00:24:34.880I mean, the scale of this thing and the ferocity of it, I don't think the American people really know right yet.
00:24:41.060And this is shocking, whether it's Ron Klain at the White House or just at Merrick Garland.
00:24:45.740This sounds like much more of a jackbooted move than they're letting on, particularly given the fact that the lawyer has been in constant discussions with GSA and the authorities.
00:24:57.560Matt Gaetz, did we lose Congresswoman Gaetz?
00:25:10.020Miranda, given your knowledge of the details of this, isn't this more jackbooted than just a GSA move, than just a move that has, you know, it's a discrepancy, right?
00:25:26.360The president's got a top-flight team of lawyers.
00:25:31.180How could they possibly have signed off on something?
00:25:34.000And did they actually get a judge to sign off on this?
00:25:36.760I mean, what federal judge signed off on this thing, a sealed warrant, and then waited over the weekend to do it on Monday?
00:25:41.940It's a judge called Reinhardt in Florida who used to be a USDA in the District of Southern Florida, but also worked on the Epstein case and then resigned to work for Epstein before, in 2018, he was appointed as a magistrate judge.
00:26:04.180So he signed off on it on Friday, but we don't know what the predicate was because it's all sealed.
00:26:09.900We don't know anything about the warrant.
00:26:13.020The FBI has lied before on warrants, as we know with the Carter Page issues.
00:26:18.840What we know is that these documents, these supposed presidential record violations that's being alleged and that the New York Times has been told and others now have had confirmed,
00:26:33.740it was the reason for the raid, that really what the FBI did was they went in there and they cracked open Donald Trump's safe.
00:26:44.800They went all over the place, picked up a whole lot of other material, any material that they pick up that might be relevant to, say, the seven other allegations that they're trying to bring against Donald Trump,
00:26:56.800particularly to do with January 6th, you know, the slate of electors and so on, they can use in other investigations if they picked it up in this warrant.
00:27:08.020So it just, you know, a lawyer close to this has said it just looks like a fishing expedition.
00:27:13.940Miranda, you agree that this is unprecedented, particularly given the fact of the investigations of Hunter Biden.
00:27:24.320I mean, why would they risk something this dramatic?
00:27:33.440We've been waiting for some sort of outcome from the four-year investigation by the US Attorney David Weiss in Delaware into Hunter Biden and possible tax violations and money laundering and also a gun charge in there.
00:27:51.900We're wondering if it was being slow walked past the midterms.
00:27:55.260However, you know, if there were an outcome today, a plea deal or something, it would really be buried and sort of there'd be a false equivalency drawn to the Donald Trump race.
00:28:08.380And they've been, the Democrats and their influencers have been very busy this week just trying to paint Hunter Biden as a private citizen being harassed.
00:28:17.660Miranda, could you just hang on one second?
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00:46:33.780And, you know, we don't, we have no idea at this point how the DOJ was able to get this warrant from a magistrate judge, what they put out.
00:46:43.100We do know what they put in the documents, how they convinced the judge.
00:46:45.880We do know that in the past, especially with FISA, the DOJ has been absolutely not forthcoming.
00:46:51.240The FBI absolutely lied when it pertains to President Trump and his supporters and those who worked for his campaign.
00:46:57.220So there's a, there's a modus operandi that, right, there's, there's a precedent for the FBI and the DOJ not being forthcoming with the judge.
00:47:04.580Did they tell the judge that, hey, there's been cooperation in this case?
00:47:08.000Did they tell the judge that there's already been substantive back and forth between the president's lawyers and, uh, and the DOJ?
00:47:14.600If they, if they did not, that's, that's misrepresentation and it's very material.
00:47:19.140So it'll be very interesting to see what information comes out over the next, uh, you know, weeks and months.
00:47:29.300This was a naked, craven attempt to intimidate President Trump, to scare President Trump and the movement because they're seeing President Trump's strength.
00:48:22.400Nobody's talking about the stagflation bill that they passed this week, which they somehow touted as this big historic thing.
00:48:29.360Every single news, every single story, every single show is all about President Donald J. Trump because the mainstream media knows he's the most powerful political figure in America.
00:48:42.620MAGA and Republicans, of course, know it because they recognize it.
00:48:45.340And what the Democrats and the DOG are doing is using third world, as I've said before, banana republic tactics to attack their political adversary, their political opponent.
00:48:57.040We've never seen that before in this country.
00:49:00.500But unfortunately, we've seen it all over the world coming from radical, woke liberals, including, hey, my family witnessed it, right?
00:49:08.320We're refugees from the former Soviet Union.
00:49:10.100And this is exactly, exactly how the corrupt law enforcement agencies, the weaponized law enforcement agencies of the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, other tyrannical states, Iraq, all over the country, all over the world, that's how they behave.
00:49:27.360The weaponizing and targeting of law enforcement against political adversaries is textbook tyrannical and textbook radical, woke, socialist, communist.
00:50:33.480Steve, here's where we have to go from here.
00:50:35.180We have got to make sure that as we have we have primaries tonight, we have primaries all through August and then even into September in New Hampshire.
00:50:43.820We've got to be electing Maga candidates all across the country, all across the country.
00:50:49.260And then, as we hope and expect, President Trump, when he decides to announce, we have got to ensure that there is absolute and total coalescence.
00:50:58.180That there's not even a voice in a Maga primary.
00:51:02.120You know, Liz Cheney, the loser out of Wyoming, wants to go and make noise.
00:51:06.480Or Chris Christie, you know, the has-been from 10 years ago, wants to be.