Bannon's War Room - August 10, 2022


Episode 2066： The Consumer Is In A Ton Of Trouble; CNBC Spin On The CPI Report; They Have Weaponized The Justice Department And The American People Should Not Stand For It


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MSNBC's Morning Mika Brzezinksi and Steve Cortez join host Rachel Maddow to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the Trump administration s response to an FBI raid at Mar-a-lago.

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00:00:00.000 We are at war. We're at a political and ideological war.
00:00:07.520 You can say anything else you want about it, but we're at war.
00:00:13.000 Talking a lot about not just what happened at Mar-a-Lago and the FBI search, but the response
00:00:19.560 to it. Sort of the strange and dangerous ironies of Trump's Republican Party, so to speak.
00:00:25.860 Well, and you look at how Republicans are doing right now, whether you're looking at
00:00:32.300 the generic ballot, you look how they're doing in special elections.
00:00:35.800 They're underperforming what was done in 2020 by five, six points in a lot of these special
00:00:43.260 elections. They continue to fall when you look at what happens in polling.
00:00:50.320 You look in the Senate races.
00:00:52.560 They're underperforming in a year that should be massive for the GOP, and they just can't
00:00:58.820 seem to connect the dots.
00:01:00.060 And now they're all rushing to the defense of a guy who likely broke the law and who's
00:01:09.040 going to be brought to justice.
00:01:10.580 They keep careening closer and closer to a cliff of political oblivion.
00:01:16.400 And Americans can see it.
00:01:19.860 They can see how hypocritical this Republican Party is.
00:01:23.140 Yes, I understand people are upset because they're going, this is war.
00:01:28.240 This is war.
00:01:29.400 Let's tan our testicles. 0.88
00:01:30.620 This is war.
00:01:31.740 They're so extreme.
00:01:36.040 And they're hypocritical.
00:01:38.140 And Americans can see through this grift.
00:01:41.300 You see, they're shocked by a legal search for classified documents, a legal search.
00:01:47.400 You read Hugh Hewitt's column yesterday in The Washington Post, a very good column that
00:01:53.740 spelled it all out.
00:01:54.600 He said, well, of course, a former president can be searched.
00:01:58.760 But we need transparency.
00:01:59.960 I agree with you on that.
00:02:01.580 But they're shocked by a legal.
00:02:04.920 OK, I've heard enough.
00:02:07.260 What?
00:02:07.600 What?
00:02:07.740 What is morning?
00:02:10.400 Meek is giving him stink.
00:02:11.520 Let's bring in Steve Cortez.
00:02:12.720 We're going to go to Tapachula, Mexico in Palm Beach with Jane Zirkle.
00:02:16.660 Had a few technical problems.
00:02:18.180 We're going to get that all sorted out.
00:02:19.740 So my third date, my backup, backup date for the night, Steve Cortez.
00:02:25.600 Steve Cortez.
00:02:26.480 Steve, you're always number one in the war room's heart.
00:02:28.820 You know that.
00:02:29.260 Nobody puts Cortez in the corner.
00:02:31.460 OK.
00:02:33.180 You know, I should storm off the set, but I'm not going to do that because we have important
00:02:36.720 business to discuss this morning.
00:02:38.320 You're too classy for that.
00:02:40.480 But first, before I get to the numbers, we're jammed today.
00:02:42.980 But before we get to the numbers, give me your overview of morning Mika.
00:02:47.240 You know, what is MSNBC going to rename the show?
00:02:50.720 She carries the weight.
00:02:51.880 Right.
00:02:52.300 She gives.
00:02:52.980 This guy is like a flake.
00:02:54.600 He's sitting around, flapping around.
00:02:55.960 All the numbers he just told you are absolutely dead wrong.
00:02:58.740 We're on a complete roll.
00:03:00.420 Right.
00:03:00.860 We're going to have Carrie Lake and Joe Cannon in the second hour talk about now their focus
00:03:04.700 on the general elections.
00:03:06.420 MAGA has ascended.
00:03:07.840 But tell me about that duo of your thoughts, Steve Cortez.
00:03:12.880 Well, Steve, listen, you're right in calling it morning Mika because she clearly does carry 1.00
00:03:16.800 the show.
00:03:17.480 And as much as I disagree with her politics and as much as I think she's a propagandist,
00:03:21.780 she's a far better broadcaster than that moron who happens to be her husband who sits
00:03:26.360 next to her and gets the show named after him.
00:03:28.180 But listen, I do watch at least part of it most mornings.
00:03:30.880 And I'm sure that makes a lot of the audience cringe.
00:03:32.640 But it's important to know, number one, what the opponents are up to.
00:03:35.960 But number two, I have found in recent years that Morning Mika largely sets the tone for 0.98
00:03:41.760 the corporate media for the day because that show is early.
00:03:45.180 They largely write the script and that script is carried on then all the way for the rest
00:03:49.040 of the day through prime time.
00:03:50.820 So it's important, I think, for those of us on the right to have an understanding of
00:03:54.000 where they're going.
00:03:54.560 But this morning, there was a particularly interesting interchange between the two.
00:03:58.640 Joe Scarborough actually called it a raid, which, of course, it was.
00:04:01.840 When you force yourself into a residence, into a private office, that is a raid.
00:04:05.500 It's a law enforcement raid.
00:04:06.640 He called it a raid and he was immediately scolded by Mika and he didn't push back at 1.00
00:04:11.020 all.
00:04:11.280 He essentially said, oh, I'm sorry that I actually called it a raid.
00:04:14.220 And by the way, Joe, I think unwittingly actually spoke some truth this morning because he said
00:04:19.300 this raid is not about documents and classification.
00:04:22.900 And my thought is exactly correct, Joe.
00:04:25.880 Of course, it's not about documents or the archives or some arcane records law.
00:04:30.680 Of course not.
00:04:31.700 It's about a far bigger agenda.
00:04:33.240 It's about trying to indict Donald Trump.
00:04:35.240 It's about trying to disqualify him because they know they cannot beat him at the ballot
00:04:39.880 box.
00:04:40.240 So he said the quiet part out loud and he was scolded for it by Mika, who's the true host
00:04:44.980 of Morning Mika.
00:04:45.820 You agree.
00:04:46.940 It's a full flex.
00:04:47.800 They're trying to flex and they're trying to intimidate everybody.
00:04:49.580 Today, President Trump, once again, the out of control, insane.
00:04:55.040 And she's insane. 1.00
00:04:56.180 Attorney General of the state of New York has got Trump up there on, you know, deposing
00:05:00.580 him today.
00:05:01.100 We're going to get to Boris.
00:05:02.160 We've got Bernie Carrick.
00:05:03.100 We've got Mike Davis.
00:05:04.140 All of it.
00:05:04.860 Let's go.
00:05:05.340 They had math today.
00:05:06.260 And of course, the pom poms are out.
00:05:07.740 Jim Cramer's doing backflips.
00:05:09.160 He's got his little, you know, his little cheerleader skirt on.
00:05:11.360 He's running around on CNBC.
00:05:13.360 I'm not so sure about this math, Cortez.
00:05:15.620 That's where we reached out to you to do some analysis.
00:05:18.640 The CPI today, walk us through the assessment.
00:05:21.140 Right.
00:05:21.500 So listen, CPI came out at 8.5%, an absolutely blistering pace.
00:05:26.240 And to put that in context, if we were to take out the last four months of just absolutely
00:05:30.760 scorching hot CPI, today's print is the worst print since 1982.
00:05:36.760 So let's not hold any parades because we've gone from 9.1 to 8.5.
00:05:42.860 We are still in the stratosphere as far as price increases.
00:05:46.700 And despite that, by the way, and I want to point this out because CNN just put this headline
00:05:50.580 up on their official Twitter account.
00:05:52.980 They said U.S. inflation took a breather in July thanks to the falling cost of food and
00:05:58.120 gas.
00:05:58.960 The falling cost of food and gas.
00:06:01.040 Now, OK, food and gas prices are not falling.
00:06:03.520 The rate of stratospheric increase might have taken a slight breather, but they are not
00:06:09.020 falling.
00:06:09.880 OK, that is the reality right now.
00:06:11.400 And to prove that, let's go to a chart.
00:06:13.260 If we can go to chart number one, you know, Cortez always shows up for charts.
00:06:16.300 Even if I am your second pick for the night, Steve, I show up well armed and ready to educate
00:06:21.140 the audience and inform them so that they can make their own decisions.
00:06:24.240 And by the way, I think most people know this in their own lives because they pay their bills
00:06:27.560 and they see what's happening in their checking account.
00:06:29.700 But listen, let's look at actual inflation rates.
00:06:31.780 So this is updated as of this morning for some very key items, the first three of which
00:06:37.340 are half two items and really all of them to some extent are half two items, but goods
00:06:41.140 and services.
00:06:41.880 These are year over year rate increases.
00:06:45.200 And tell me if CNN, these are prices falling.
00:06:49.660 Gasoline, 44 percent year over year.
00:06:52.520 Utilities, 30 percent.
00:06:54.720 Groceries, 13 percent.
00:06:56.820 That's food at home, not fine dining out.
00:06:59.060 Health insurance.
00:06:59.880 The Democratic Party is supposedly the party that can deliver affordable health care to
00:07:04.840 individuals.
00:07:05.540 Health insurance, 20 percent year over year.
00:07:08.460 And airline fares, 27 percent increase.
00:07:12.840 So 8.5 percent is the overall number.
00:07:15.900 But the number for some really key goods and services is, of course, far, far worse.
00:07:20.740 And I think it's important for us to continually track that half two basket of groceries, gasoline,
00:07:26.140 and utilities right now, those three together, rising at 29 percent year over year.
00:07:32.100 That is the reality that Americans face.
00:07:34.700 So a small downtick in the rate of acceleration is not falling prices, Steve.
00:07:41.500 So in other words, think of it this way.
00:07:43.000 If a plane is crashing, OK, if it is crashing down to Earth and it's able to slightly slow
00:07:48.100 its speed of descent, the plane is still crashing.
00:07:51.200 OK, the plane has not righted itself and started to ascend back upward towards safety.
00:07:55.940 OK, that's, I think, an analogy to what's happening right now.
00:07:58.700 So the rate of descent slow or excuse me, the rate of price increases slowed very, very
00:08:04.260 slightly.
00:08:04.800 But by historical comparison, still in absolutely staggering, punishing, recession inducing levels.
00:08:12.740 That is the reality right now.
00:08:14.080 And Americans know this again.
00:08:15.500 They're facing this every day.
00:08:16.760 The corporate media is going to try to throw metaphorical parades all day today.
00:08:21.260 The deplorables aren't going to fall for it.
00:08:22.940 And look at the reality of those numbers as reported by the government.
00:08:25.600 By the way, those are government stats, which I think understate inflation.
00:08:28.180 But I'm taking their official statistics right now on Facebook.
00:08:31.560 I sent you I sent you some tweets from some folks.
00:08:34.400 Is this are the feds?
00:08:35.600 Is the fed going to go dove on us quickly?
00:08:37.700 Are they talking about a 50 basis point in September now instead of 75 basis points?
00:08:42.400 Because they've already got the punch bowl back up in Wall Street.
00:08:44.980 Of course, the Wall Street crooks are out there skipping around wanting you to buy the dip.
00:08:50.720 Is this is this going to be is is is Powell going to go dovish on us?
00:08:56.120 Well, he certainly should not.
00:08:57.900 But will he?
00:08:58.860 Yeah, I think there's a decent chance he will.
00:09:00.320 I think he's dying to not play the bad guy.
00:09:03.140 Right.
00:09:03.400 Frankly, and he wants to please Wall Street far more than he wants to protect American consumers
00:09:07.740 and protect Main Street small businesses, which we know are being absolutely crushed by this inflation.
00:09:12.920 Again, that data from a lineable of survey of over thirty five hundred small businesses in the United States.
00:09:18.680 They self-report that one third of them, 34 percent, said they could not pay rent in the month of July.
00:09:24.180 So tell them, by the way, that they're getting a break and that things are fine.
00:09:28.300 When one third of small businesses can't pay rent in the month of July, they need help.
00:09:31.920 Part of that help is the Federal Reserve finally doing its job.
00:09:35.860 And the Fed has put itself through its dereliction of duty.
00:09:38.300 It's put itself in a very difficult position.
00:09:40.240 OK, and so, I mean, I do have a tiny bit of empathy for the Fed.
00:09:44.020 But they, again, put themselves in this place where they must play the bad guy.
00:09:48.320 But to answer your question, look, the markets this morning, which is where I really look rather than just economists and pundits.
00:09:54.700 Let's look at what markets are actually pricing in regarding Fed policy.
00:09:57.720 It flipped from a for sure thing of 75 basis points in the next meeting to now roughly a 50-50 bet, whether it's going to be 50 basis points or 75.
00:10:07.040 But, you know, I don't want to get lost in the weeds.
00:10:09.200 The point is the Fed is nowhere near where it needs to be.
00:10:12.860 Rates need to be at least double at the short end where they are right now.
00:10:17.340 And by the way, speaking of the stock market, you know, you talked about how the stock market is celebrating this morning because they think they're going to get an easier Fed.
00:10:22.820 And again, that may happen.
00:10:24.280 But consumer-facing stocks continue to suffer incredibly.
00:10:28.600 If we can pull up chart two here, I think this is very telling because any company that is – no, that's the inflation rate.
00:10:34.900 If we can pull up chart two, please, of sweet green.
00:10:37.180 There we go.
00:10:38.140 Any company that faces the consumer, any sector right now, is having a terrible time.
00:10:43.300 And this is the salad chain sweet green.
00:10:45.520 And again, as always, I'm not trying to pick on this company.
00:10:47.540 I have no view on this company.
00:10:49.380 But it massively disappointed in earnings.
00:10:51.720 Unfortunately, they're going to be laying off a whole lot of people.
00:10:55.180 And that is the chart of sweet green year to date.
00:10:58.560 And even though the broader stock market is advancing today, sweet green right now, as we speak, is down 2.5%.
00:11:05.460 And as you can see on that chart, it is massively off of its highs of earlier this year.
00:11:10.120 Why?
00:11:10.760 Because their input costs for food have absolutely soared.
00:11:14.200 And because their consumer – it's a relatively expensive restaurant for a quick service place – their consumers are increasingly strapped.
00:11:20.660 And by the way, that's not just a sweet green story.
00:11:23.760 Now, that is a niche company that, again, serves in general a higher-end clientele.
00:11:28.120 But we also got news this week from Tyson Foods, one of the biggest meat packaging companies in America.
00:11:33.680 And they reported – and their stock has been hammered on this news – Tyson Foods said that consumers are increasingly trading down.
00:11:40.060 They are buying cheaper and cheaper cuts of meat.
00:11:42.600 So we see it on the macro level at the lower end of the price scale.
00:11:46.060 We also see it on the micro level from a niche company like Sweet Green.
00:11:49.640 The reality is the consumer is in a ton of trouble in this country.
00:11:54.020 It is getting worse, not better.
00:11:56.340 And a slight downtick in the rate of acceleration is no reason for anyone to celebrate or for anyone to assume that things are going to be fine.
00:12:06.320 And to that point, if I can actually show them that third chart that they just had up, CPI, going back one year.
00:12:11.580 Chart three, please.
00:12:12.500 This, I think, is worth looking at.
00:12:14.200 You can see if you look there for the folks who are watching, in April, there was a slight downtick as well.
00:12:19.940 There was a slight downtick.
00:12:21.700 And then right back into the soup, right back into an inflationary spiral.
00:12:25.480 So this slight downtick in the rate of acceleration right now, I think, looks a lot like April.
00:12:30.800 Again, nobody from a single print that's not quite as bad as the previous months.
00:12:36.180 No one should assume that things are okay.
00:12:38.980 Far, far from it, Steve.
00:12:40.100 By the way, Steve Cortez is such a classy guy and such a good guy.
00:12:45.160 He's agreed earlier to break this up, bifurcate his hit, and he's going to come back with his major new column in Newsweek magazine about General Milley.
00:12:53.300 We're going to get into – oh, no, no, no.
00:12:54.780 You're about Zelensky.
00:12:55.700 We've got Zelensky in Ukraine.
00:12:57.580 The geopolitics and geostrategy, a major piece in Newsweek by Steve Cortez.
00:13:02.300 Steve, we'll see you back in the second hour.
00:13:03.980 Amazing analysis here.
00:13:05.660 Let's go – I think we've got the technical problem worked out.
00:13:08.120 Let's go to Oscar.
00:13:08.900 Oscar, let's go to Oscar.
00:13:10.240 Let's go to Oscar Blue Ramirez and Tapachula.
00:13:13.200 Oscar, tell us what happened last night.
00:13:15.160 It looked like a lot of violence.
00:13:21.920 Okay.
00:13:22.460 Do I have Oscar?
00:13:23.680 Okay.
00:13:24.000 Let's go ahead and drop it.
00:13:24.720 We don't have a technical problem.
00:13:25.840 We're still trying to get Oscar Blue.
00:13:27.100 The caravans heading up here are really getting in the face of Mexican officials and the hardworking, decent people in Mexico.
00:13:36.940 Last night looked like a riot burning – they were burning things down, burning buses down.
00:13:43.340 Absolutely out of control.
00:13:44.500 As soon as we work out our technical problems, we're going to get Oscar Blue.
00:13:47.400 He's down in Mexico.
00:13:48.200 And also, we're going to come back in the next segment with Jane Zirkle.
00:13:53.100 Jane Zirkle is down at Palm Beach.
00:13:55.500 We had – as we left yesterday's show, Jane was covering this kind of live, spontaneous demonstration of MAGA and Trump supporters.
00:14:02.880 Well, guess what?
00:14:04.020 The police didn't like it last night.
00:14:05.620 They came down and shut things down.
00:14:07.100 We're going to get all of that.
00:14:08.040 We've got Boris Epstein, Mike Davis, Bernie Carrick.
00:14:12.020 About this warrant, exactly what's going on here.
00:14:15.140 You know, the DOJ has had a history of lying to federal judges.
00:14:19.420 And this magistrate, did he get the full story?
00:14:21.600 What is it about this raid that took place in Mar-a-Lago?
00:14:25.280 A desecration of a president's home the first time in American history.
00:14:29.380 Short commercial break.
00:14:30.540 We're going to get into all of it when we return in the war room.
00:14:33.340 Bring it on and now we'll fight to the end.
00:14:37.680 Just watch and see.
00:14:38.840 It's all started.
00:14:41.040 Everything's begun.
00:14:42.840 And you are over.
00:14:45.480 Because we're taking down the CCP.
00:14:49.520 Spread the word all through Hong Kong.
00:14:51.840 We will fight till they're all gone.
00:14:54.340 We rejoice when there's no more.
00:14:56.260 Let's take down the CCP.
00:14:59.540 You know what's never good?
00:15:00.840 Quote, when your nation's supposed authority on economic policy completely misses the flashing red lights of impending inflation.
00:15:10.560 Now, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has finally admitted, quote,
00:15:14.620 there's been an unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices
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00:16:23.640 We're waiting for the mainstream news to talk about Hunter Biden.
00:16:28.800 That's what we're waiting for.
00:16:33.160 How's Hunter Biden going to jail?
00:16:36.600 We're staying here to the mainstream media.
00:16:39.440 Talked about the Hunter Biden story and about his laptop.
00:16:42.800 We want to know why there's pictures of him having sex with hookers and smoking crack.
00:16:47.120 He doesn't get arrested, but they raid President Trump's house.
00:16:50.900 President doesn't smell right.
00:16:54.060 Okay, amazing.
00:16:55.440 Let's bring in Jane Zirkle. 1.00
00:16:57.020 Calamity Jane is down outside of Mar-a-Lago, as she has been.
00:17:01.160 Jane, the Daily Mail this morning had one of their top stories was how,
00:17:06.960 and you told me, the police came down and started shutting things down.
00:17:10.520 Walk us through what happened.
00:17:11.640 That was a spontaneous.
00:17:13.480 Okay, we lost her again.
00:17:14.760 We're having a little technical problems today.
00:17:16.320 We got Tapachula, Mexico, and we got Palm Beach, but it's not working.
00:17:19.980 Boris, let me bring in here, brother.
00:17:21.880 President Trump, another phony situation.
00:17:26.460 Everybody has to understand, because he represents you.
00:17:32.440 They're after him in every different angle to try to break him.
00:17:36.180 He's unbreakable, but they're going to try to break him.
00:17:38.260 Okay, now you got Letitia James.
00:17:39.860 You know, she's insane. 1.00
00:17:42.300 After him, deposing him this morning in New York City.
00:17:45.320 They're hitting him at every angle.
00:17:46.500 We got Bernie Kerrick, Mike Davis, but of course, the one and only Boris Epstein.
00:17:50.280 Boris, spontaneous yesterday.
00:17:52.460 We had Jane Zirkle there.
00:17:53.600 She's there live, but we can't hook up with her for a technical problem that we're trying to work out. 1.00
00:17:57.340 But she showed yesterday how this was, you know, it started the first night on Monday night.
00:18:01.860 But yesterday, it was a spontaneous, I mean, it was huge.
00:18:05.620 And let the audience understand, 50% of that crowd is Hispanic.
00:18:11.040 Cubans, people from Puerto Rico, American citizens that sitting there understand that Donald Trump represents them.
00:18:17.480 That is the fear of the Democratic Party.
00:18:19.140 That is 100% why they're doing this.
00:18:21.820 And Boris, it's spontaneous.
00:18:23.120 And the authorities made him clear the bridge, or at least part of the bridge yesterday, because there's so many people out there.
00:18:28.560 Boris, give me your update on everything you know about the president's state of mind and what's going on.
00:18:33.840 And I know he wants to fight.
00:18:35.520 When are we, Boris, when are we going to announce?
00:18:37.360 I thought today was our day.
00:18:38.560 Are we going?
00:18:39.620 Is the plane ready?
00:18:40.720 Is the plane fueled?
00:18:41.840 Walk out of the deposition.
00:18:43.040 He doesn't need to be there for Letitia James.
00:18:44.820 Tell us he's got stuff to do.
00:18:47.200 He's got business to take care of.
00:18:49.480 Boris.
00:18:50.440 Well, Steve, here's the bottom line.
00:18:52.960 Here's the reality of it.
00:18:54.240 President Trump's power, President Trump's strength is the highest right now it has ever been.
00:18:58.980 Okay?
00:18:59.660 MAGA is not just ascendant.
00:19:01.220 MAGA is in control.
00:19:02.440 And we've been saying this now for almost two years, since January 20th, 2021, since 1201, that this was going to be the strongest moment,
00:19:13.680 the strongest catalyst behind MAGA.
00:19:16.640 And that's exactly what has become.
00:19:17.960 President Trump putting out a powerhouse statement just in the last several minutes regarding the witch hunt that's been undertaken against him by the federal prosecutors.
00:19:27.120 And by the way, I'm hearing, the information I'm hearing about, the premise for that warrant is so concocted, is so corrupt, is so decrepit,
00:19:35.820 that once it comes out, it's going to shock the world, and only further, if it's even possible, because the couple strength will be full, strength in President Trump's position.
00:19:44.860 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:19:45.960 We're breaking news here on the show that you should break news here.
00:19:50.000 No, this is not.
00:19:52.300 This is what you should break news here.
00:19:53.160 It's a dig.
00:19:54.280 It's a dig.
00:19:55.100 It's a dig at some other folks.
00:19:56.540 That's okay.
00:19:57.740 Walk me through this, the premise, because I got Mike.
00:19:59.800 I keep calling my news to War Room, because always signal, not news for the War Room.
00:20:03.100 Always signal, not noise.
00:20:05.180 Hold it.
00:20:05.680 I got Mike Davis and Bernie Carrick.
00:20:07.860 We haven't had Bernie on for a while.
00:20:09.580 Bernie's head's been blown up about this thing.
00:20:12.020 Walk me through the basis of this.
00:20:14.480 I mean, look, what happened, I actually put the Daily Mail's lead exclusive story up.
00:20:19.740 If you go to my Getter account right now, because the details are coming out.
00:20:25.420 They went through the first lady's clothing.
00:20:27.940 They didn't allow the video cameras to be turned.
00:20:30.040 You know, they cut them off.
00:20:31.000 They didn't allow any of the people of his lawyers around.
00:20:33.260 They had guns and weapons.
00:20:34.860 This thing is so over the top and out of control.
00:20:38.520 And you got Charlie Sachs.
00:20:39.980 You got all these guys that are never Trumpers are sitting there going, hey, this is too much.
00:20:44.320 And I'm telling you, when you watch CNN and MSNBC at night, there's a very worried.
00:20:49.060 I know when they're dancing around and spiking the football, they ain't spiking any footballers right now.
00:20:56.320 They're kind of like, well, you know, he's got a, you know, Hugh Hewitt comes out.
00:20:59.380 You know, he's got, it's all nonsense.
00:21:01.520 So tell us what you know about the Predator.
00:21:03.880 Because, Boris, they have lied.
00:21:06.160 And every time they've gone to the FISA court, this is how they control.
00:21:09.380 This is how they came after us the first time right after we won.
00:21:12.460 They went to a FISA court and lied to a judge.
00:21:14.760 The FBI, which is the new American Gestapo.
00:21:18.380 And let me tell you, everybody, all the whistleblowers of the FBI, you got to come forward now.
00:21:21.820 And you got to let people know that you're clean.
00:21:23.740 Okay.
00:21:24.460 Because the FBI is going to be defunded and liquidated.
00:21:28.020 It's time now to get this Gestapo out of here.
00:21:30.820 And we need to know the people in the FBI got to start coming forward.
00:21:33.680 There are already hundreds coming forward.
00:21:35.780 You need to come forward and let people know that your skirts are clean. 0.99
00:21:39.300 Because I'm telling you, there's going to be an investigation, litigation, liquidation, incrimination, all of it.
00:21:47.540 Incarceration.
00:21:48.120 Okay.
00:21:48.480 So you're not going to get away with being a, you're not going to get away with being an American Gestapo. 0.68
00:21:53.120 And you're not going to get after Trump.
00:21:54.660 Hey, we're going to punch back.
00:21:56.380 And we're going to punch back quite hard.
00:21:58.060 Boris Epstein.
00:22:00.440 Steve, here's the bottom line.
00:22:02.280 And, and this is vital to remember that the DOJ and the FBI, they lied on the warrants.
00:22:10.300 They lied when they went after General Michael Flynn.
00:22:13.180 They lied when they went after Carter Page.
00:22:15.680 They lied when they spied on President Trump's campaign and then President Trump's actual presidency, his administration.
00:22:21.580 There's a long history, a modus operandi, as it's called in legal profession.
00:22:27.260 There's a long history, an MO by the DOJ that has gone absolutely woke, absolutely liberal, and has been weaponized, weaponized, not by just feckless Joe Biden,
00:22:39.200 but has been weaponized now for a long time, from Obama to George W. Bush, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:45.480 This, this DOJ and FBI have been trying to set up President Trump and those close to those who work for him for, you know, since 2015, for almost, for seven years now.
00:22:55.460 And I, you know, I do not have, we don't have the full information yet on how this warrant was obtained.
00:23:03.360 We do have some information on the magistrate judge, but we don't have full information on how this warrant was obtained.
00:23:08.720 But based on everything President Trump has said, based on everything that I know, based on everything that has been public, and frankly, that is still to come out,
00:23:16.860 President Trump and his legal team are in full and total cooperation and compliance with the DOJ on this NARA issue, okay, on this presidential record issue.
00:23:27.840 Slow down, slow down, slow down, stop, slow down, stop, hit rewind.
00:23:32.480 I need you to say that slowly so our audience can absorb it because their force multiplies.
00:23:39.420 Hit rewind and give me that and all the media and the hedge funds and the Chinese Communist Party intel.
00:23:44.380 I want to go back slowly.
00:23:46.180 Give me the full and complete, you know, you guys were in accord with everything.
00:23:50.680 Go ahead.
00:23:51.580 As President Trump said in his first statement on Monday, when this raid by the DOJ, when this break it into President Trump's historic home, raid and break it, when that happened,
00:24:03.620 President Trump said that this was unnecessary, unnecessary because President Trump and his council have been in total cooperation with the DOJ.
00:24:14.960 This has become public now.
00:24:16.760 The DOJ asked for a lock to be put in a certain door.
00:24:19.400 The lock was put on.
00:24:20.200 And then what does the DOJ do when they're breaking it?
00:24:22.320 They break that same lock.
00:24:24.100 They break the president's safe.
00:24:26.060 This was a brazen, craven raid and break-in, and the premise for that is absolutely nonexistent.
00:24:34.040 It is absolutely nonexistent.
00:24:36.660 There's beautiful Mar-a-Lago.
00:24:37.860 And that's why you've got the American people coming out in droves and treating Mar-a-Lago now as a place for pilgrimage because it stands for freedom.
00:24:45.200 It stands for not backing down to tyranny, to big government, to absolutely rampant, runaway, woke abuse of authority and weaponization of law enforcement.
00:24:58.480 That's what happened.
00:24:59.620 That's what's happening against President Trump.
00:25:01.220 In his statement this morning on Tish James in New York and other runaway, completely political partisan persecutors states just that.
00:25:13.320 It states just that.
00:25:14.160 So this has been an amazing week for MAGA, and here's why.
00:25:17.560 It's an amazing week for MAGA because the exposure of the radical, woke, tyrannical left has now hit overdrive.
00:25:27.220 And as you said, Steve, it's not just MAGA that's absolutely inflamed by this.
00:25:31.580 It's not just MAGA that's saying we will not stand for this.
00:25:35.560 It's the National Review.
00:25:37.100 It's Andy McCarthy.
00:25:38.340 It's Charlie Sykes.
00:25:39.580 You've got Andrew Cuomo yesterday, who I think may be plotting a comeback or whatever he thinks is possible, coming out and saying we've got to get to the bottom of it.
00:25:47.760 McCarthy coming out with a hot statement.
00:25:50.400 And then McConnell on the Senate side coming out with a statement against us.
00:25:54.540 You know, it was an interesting piece in Axios yesterday about this being effectively a field clearing exercise, Steve, that we discussed off camera.
00:26:01.540 Every single Republican, you know, political figure, whatever, who's even giving a thought to potentially, which, by the way, would be a ludicrous thought, to challenging President Trump if and when, as we hope and expect, he runs for president.
00:26:15.560 Every one of those people, from Pompeo to Pence to DeSantis, they've come out and backed President Trump on this.
00:26:23.880 What this has proven once and for all is that the American people stand with President Trump, and President Trump is the only irrefutable figure fully, fully in leadership of the MAGA movement, the Republican Party, and America.
00:26:37.640 But when we get to the bottom of this, when all the information does come out about how this was, what the predicate was for the warrant, how this was organized, how it was approved, note that they didn't go to a judge in Washington, D.C.
00:26:50.000 The DOJ has a judge they usually go to for these, you know, for these kind of actions.
00:26:54.840 They went to a local federal magistrate judge that on social media said Nancy thinks about President Trump.
00:27:01.820 Why was that? He's Epstein's lawyer.
00:27:04.120 Why was that?
00:27:05.200 Why did they go to the magistrate?
00:27:06.400 Epstein.
00:27:06.820 Let's not mix that up.
00:27:08.400 You know, that was Epstein and Epstein.
00:27:08.980 Got it. We understand.
00:27:10.440 No, no, no, no relation.
00:27:12.300 Totally different.
00:27:12.680 Hold it.
00:27:14.060 Why did they go to a magistrate, not a federal judge that had the case?
00:27:20.560 Well, it really, between the tea leaves, the reason to go to a local magistrate and not the federal judge, and it's a federal magistrate, but a local Florida magistrate and not a judge up in D.C. or D.C. area is because they try to overrun some local yoke.
00:27:34.760 Or maybe they did know about the judge's prior statements on social media, et cetera.
00:27:39.340 And, oh, we need to do this.
00:27:41.180 But also, we have no idea what they actually put in there.
00:27:45.060 Were they, was the DOJ actually honest about the overwhelming cooperation between President Trump and his council and the DOJ?
00:27:52.520 Were they honest about the time?
00:27:54.280 And now you've got, you know, the DOJ trying to spin some nonsense about, oh, you know, this was, you know, there was breakdown in communication.
00:28:01.220 There was no breakdown in communication.
00:28:03.120 There was full cooperation.
00:28:04.120 That's a lie.
00:28:05.580 They're lying.
00:28:06.880 They're bald-faced liars.
00:28:08.140 There was total and complete accommodation, coordination, and communication.
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00:29:47.560 Charlie, in your new piece for The Bulwark, you focus on the FBI search, writing in part this.
00:29:53.600 They, the FBI, also must have known that by raiding Trump's home, the DOJ would be crossing the Rubicon.
00:30:01.880 There's no going back now.
00:30:03.500 If anything, I think the understated, I think I understated the case because it is about to get very ugly.
00:30:10.640 Secondly, elected Republicans, who frequently remind us that they are the party of law and order, could have, one, adopted a posture of strategic silence, or two, given the FBI the benefit of the doubt while they conducted a court-sanctioned investigation.
00:30:27.100 Instead, they gave us this sort of thing, end quote.
00:30:33.120 Take a look.
00:30:34.340 Threats to defund the FBI.
00:30:36.180 Threats to the attorney general himself.
00:30:38.100 Claims designed to chip away at trust in our institution.
00:30:41.320 It goes on.
00:30:42.100 Claiming illegal FBI search is the weaponization of government, Paul Gosar, saying we must destroy the FBI.
00:30:50.660 I mean, these guys, Joe, are a joke.
00:30:54.740 Well.
00:30:55.580 They're a joke.
00:30:56.320 They are.
00:30:56.840 Charlie, they're a joke.
00:30:58.260 Indeed.
00:30:58.440 They are a dangerous joke.
00:31:00.880 At that, I'll be the first to admit, because I guess I, at times, I'm a bit too optimistic.
00:31:09.480 Before January the 6th, I was concerned, but I didn't think that what happened on January 6th would ever happen,
00:31:17.500 that people who claim to love America would ever brutalize police officers and beat them up with American flags.
00:31:25.440 I never thought that they would go in and jam police officers' heads in doors and wipe excrement all over the Capitol
00:31:32.540 and try to hang the vice president of the United States. 0.56
00:31:36.240 So, yes.
00:31:38.240 Okay.
00:31:39.480 I've heard enough.
00:31:40.320 I want to get Boris in here.
00:31:41.260 By the way, we are going to defund the FBI.
00:31:44.160 He said, give them the benefit of the doubt that the American Gestapo, and it's outrageous what they have done.
00:31:50.160 They have taken a great institution, and Boris is right.
00:31:52.740 It's just not this.
00:31:53.820 It's been over years.
00:31:55.440 That's why you need a new church commission on the CIA and the FBI.
00:31:58.340 The FBI is going to be liquidated, and we'll start over again.
00:32:02.780 Liquidated.
00:32:03.800 The systemic corruption, they are pure evil.
00:32:07.620 And every whistleblower there, you better start coming forward.
00:32:10.600 You better start coming forward.
00:32:11.920 There's plenty of points of contact.
00:32:14.260 There's plenty of points of contact.
00:32:15.960 You better start coming forward and letting people know your skirts are clean, 1.00
00:32:18.780 because this is – the Republican Study Committee spent three hours with President Trump last night, Congressman Banks and his team, right?
00:32:27.500 Claudia Tenney and others.
00:32:28.640 We'll get more on that in the afternoon show.
00:32:30.260 They're walking through already the deep investigations that are going to take place, the framework, the analytical framework for this.
00:32:37.300 We are coming for you, and we don't care if Joe Scarborough, a failed three-term congressman because of a problem with a staffer happening to die that he then had to go spend more quality time with his families, quote-unquote.
00:32:52.660 We don't care if he's clutching his pearls, right?
00:32:55.780 We're coming, and we're coming hard, okay?
00:32:58.320 This is outrageous.
00:32:59.480 You've turned it into a police state, and we're not going to tolerate it.
00:33:03.400 We are not going to tolerate it.
00:33:06.100 Boris Epstein.
00:33:08.540 Absolutely, we're not going to tolerate it.
00:33:09.920 We're not going to stand for this.
00:33:11.620 We're not going to back down.
00:33:12.580 And President Trump's statements time and time again and his truth this morning that actually – I think I'd like to read, Steve, if we have just 10 seconds.
00:33:21.240 Please.
00:33:21.440 It's very important.
00:33:22.660 From this morning before, having to go in and do this ludicrous, nonsense, civil case – by the way, civil case deposition in front of the tyrannical Tish James. 0.97
00:33:33.980 President Trump this morning.
00:33:35.120 The FBI and others from the federal government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid, and I will add, break-in at Mar-a-Lago.
00:33:46.080 Everyone was asked to leave the premises.
00:33:47.580 They wanted to be left alone without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or hopefully not.
00:33:52.660 In quotes, planting.
00:33:54.120 Why do they strongly insist on having nobody watching them?
00:33:56.800 Everybody out.
00:33:57.700 Obama and Clinton were never raided, despite big disputes.
00:34:01.780 Full stop.
00:34:02.780 President Trump calling it like it is.
00:34:04.420 Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000, 33,000 emails after they were under subpoena.
00:34:11.360 Okay, okay, okay, I don't want to talk about her emails.
00:34:13.660 Here's what I want to talk about.
00:34:15.380 Every person associated with this has to understand, you're going to be – we're going to get to the bottom of the lies.
00:34:22.240 You lie all the time.
00:34:23.360 I was one of the guys that was – as soon as we won, they started surveilling the Trump campaign.
00:34:29.600 I was one of the lead people they surveilled.
00:34:31.720 They've been after me from day one.
00:34:33.200 You know why?
00:34:33.620 I was the CEO of the campaign, okay, the come-from-behind campaign.
00:34:37.280 I was targeted immediately.
00:34:38.880 Have you ever seen Steve Bannon whine one second?
00:34:40.680 I'm not whining at all.
00:34:42.540 But I've got to tell you, you've crossed it now, and we're fed up with it, and no more.
00:34:47.460 You lied on that FISA warrant.
00:34:49.660 You absolutely lied about everything about the Trump campaign.
00:34:53.500 I took 30 hours in front of the Mola Commission.
00:34:56.260 Another joke.
00:34:57.700 Another joke.
00:34:58.780 You people are the worst people on earth.
00:35:01.860 You've taken the greatest country that gave you more opportunities, and you've turned into the Gestapo. 0.91
00:35:06.640 And everybody says, what would people do, you know, if I was there when Hitler was coming to power?
00:35:10.020 Well, guess what?
00:35:11.040 You are the Gestapo.
00:35:12.680 We're defunding you.
00:35:14.100 And not just that.
00:35:15.280 We're going to investigate.
00:35:16.660 We're going to litigate.
00:35:17.560 And we're going to incarcerate.
00:35:19.840 Investigate, litigate, and incarcerate.
00:35:23.300 You better make sure you should come forward now and get your skirts clear saying, hey, look, you know, I was just a good German, and, you know, doing what I was told.
00:35:30.420 No, no, no, no, no, not going to be good enough.
00:35:32.440 Come forward today.
00:35:34.400 There's enough touch points.
00:35:35.640 You know, with Gates and the people in Jordan over there at the House committees at Project Veritas or come to us, but you better start coming forward.
00:35:44.220 We know there's a lot of decent people in the FBI, but your leadership and Chris Ray, a Chris Christie.
00:35:50.180 If anybody sees Chris Christie ever come to an event, you should boo him nonstop.
00:35:55.940 Chris Christie is one of the central problems here.
00:35:59.160 His buddy, his lifetime lawyer, when he told President Trump, oh, this guy's even-handed.
00:36:04.100 This was Christie out to get Trump from the beginning.
00:36:07.240 That's how evil psychopath that guy is.
00:36:09.640 It's all going to come out.
00:36:13.100 It's all going to come out.
00:36:14.300 Every single ounce of it.
00:36:16.620 I got Carrick and David's going to join us in a second.
00:36:18.640 Boris, anything else?
00:36:20.160 Yes, sir.
00:36:21.160 I have three words.
00:36:22.300 Sure.
00:36:22.820 I have three words for those who perpetrated this raid and break-in on President Trump, his family, and the American people.
00:36:30.480 Preserve your documents.
00:36:34.440 Preserve your document.
00:36:37.260 This is not a joke.
00:36:38.340 This is not a drill, okay?
00:36:40.960 And stop lying to the American people and say, oh, the White House didn't know anything about this.
00:36:45.760 You think that, first of all, there's no good answer there.
00:36:49.020 There's no good option.
00:36:49.740 If the DOJ did this without actually consulting with the illegitimate but supposed chief executive in his office, that is runaway, ludicrous law enforcement insanity, okay?
00:37:02.440 The other option is that, what I believe, is that the White House is simply lying.
00:37:05.920 Of course they knew about it.
00:37:07.300 How could they not know?
00:37:09.100 They knew, and they wanted to target the person that they're most afraid of because President Donald J. Trump stands for American greatness, stands for American superiority, stands for America's broad shoulders, and he's never going to back down.
00:37:23.200 And this is only going to make him, his movement, and this country in the end stronger because it is making that path back to the White House at the latest, Jan 20, 2025, even smoother.
00:37:34.860 And if you're seeing what's happening this week, the coalescence, the coalescence behind President Trump of the whole movement is something we really haven't seen in a long time because there's no more Never Trumpers.
00:37:45.820 There's no more, you know, rhinos.
00:37:48.040 And even Democrats and some independents are coming with us.
00:37:50.940 That's what we're seeing.
00:37:52.160 That's what we're experiencing.
00:37:53.360 And it is absolutely encouraging about the future of America.
00:37:57.820 A war and posse.
00:37:58.920 I'm going to give you two mantras.
00:38:00.080 For the FBI, for everybody associated with the NDOJ, preserve your documents, but in addition, investigate, litigate, incarcerate, okay?
00:38:12.140 We're not playing games anymore.
00:38:14.200 We're not playing games.
00:38:14.780 The country's in the balance, and do you honestly think we'd have allowed this to happen?
00:38:20.480 Do you honestly think we're just going to sit there and accept it?
00:38:23.080 No.
00:38:23.480 You think that that's going to happen?
00:38:24.760 You are absolutely 1,000% wrong.
00:38:28.020 Every person in the DOJ and FBI should start coming forward.
00:38:31.120 Go to Project Veritas.
00:38:32.300 Reach out to Congressman Matt Gaetz's office.
00:38:34.460 Go to Jim Jordan.
00:38:35.580 Go to Congressman Banks.
00:38:37.140 Because the investigations are coming, okay?
00:38:39.480 Your day of judgment is coming quickly.
00:38:42.460 You should come forward today.
00:38:43.660 Boris, give your social media.
00:38:46.100 Steve, an honor to be on the show.
00:38:47.760 An honor to talk to the war and posse.
00:38:49.660 An honor to stand up today with you, a champion for the MAGA movement.
00:38:54.980 You've been fighting against the deep state your whole career.
00:38:57.000 And today is another in a million points of proof of how dangerous the deep state weaponization
00:39:03.780 of law enforcement and overreach of tyrannical government is.
00:39:06.960 But it is only making President Trump and the MAGA movement stronger.
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00:39:23.700 Stay strong.
00:39:24.280 God bless.
00:39:25.180 And I will talk to you in a few hours.
00:39:27.480 Thank you, Boriscp.
00:39:28.440 See this afternoon.
00:39:29.040 Let's go.
00:39:29.400 I want to play Jesse Waters.
00:39:30.500 Even Jesse Waters, who's one of the nicest, calmest guys around.
00:39:34.360 Listen to Jesse Waters last night on Fox.
00:39:36.480 Why they had to raid President Trump's home 90 days before an election.
00:39:40.740 Yeah, you know, and I love having you on, Lindsay.
00:39:42.420 You know, you and I have debated about things.
00:39:44.120 And I've seen you pretty spitting mad over Ukraine.
00:39:47.500 But you don't seem as mad as you were about this.
00:39:51.160 Then you've been mad about Ukraine.
00:39:52.760 I don't understand why people aren't lighting their hair on fire.
00:39:56.080 I don't understand why people aren't out in the streets.
00:39:58.460 This isn't like, oh, well, you know, let's just see what's in the warrant.
00:40:01.560 I mean, they've been doing this.
00:40:03.020 This is the third election.
00:40:05.100 This is the third election.
00:40:05.980 We know they doctor evidence.
00:40:07.360 We know they plant evidence.
00:40:09.120 We know they hide evidence.
00:40:10.760 We know they lie.
00:40:11.600 We know they leak.
00:40:13.100 I mean, this is not anything new.
00:40:14.480 This has been years they've been doing this.
00:40:17.120 We can't just say, oh, you know, we're waiting for the guy to come out
00:40:19.940 and give a statement about what is predicated.
00:40:22.360 I mean, what?
00:40:23.620 These people are out of control, Senator.
00:40:27.060 This country is at, like, we're on the edge of a cliff, man.
00:40:30.520 I'm telling you, this country is at the edge of a cliff here.
00:40:35.700 By the way, that's Jesse Waters.
00:40:37.580 And Jesse is as good a guy as you can possibly get.
00:40:40.160 Let me bring you.
00:40:40.620 I've got Bernie Kerrick and Mike Davis.
00:40:41.980 Bernie, give me your assessment of where we are, sir,
00:40:44.980 and what dangerous territory we are in, given you spent your career in law enforcement,
00:40:50.380 former police commissioner of New York.
00:40:52.240 Walk us through your assessment of where we are.
00:40:55.860 You know what, Steve?
00:40:56.980 What happened at Mar-a-Lago was what happens in third-world countries. 1.00
00:41:03.080 I could see it in Venezuela and Colombia and Cuba.
00:41:05.720 I could see it in dictatorships like Russia and China.
00:41:11.280 For it to happen here in this country is pretty frightening for two really valid points.
00:41:18.320 One, it's never happened before.
00:41:20.920 It was unjustified.
00:41:22.800 But two, the only reason it happened is one very specific reason, and that is because they do not want Trump to run in 2024.
00:41:32.040 They're doing everything in their power to stop him.
00:41:35.000 And as I said two days ago when this happened, what I fear most, what if they can't stop him?
00:41:43.840 What if they can't stop him?
00:41:45.860 What if they can't get a court to arrest him?
00:41:49.480 You know, in these dictatorships in these third-world countries, what do they do?
00:41:53.400 They imprison you or they kill you, one or the other.
00:41:57.200 These guys will go to any length possible to stop him.
00:42:01.980 Is that – are you – I've known you a long time.
00:42:05.800 Are you being overwrought – when you said that the other day on Newsmax, you know, people's heads started blowing up and said Bernie's kind of lost it.
00:42:13.600 Are you being overwrought in even suggesting that could be a possibility, sir?
00:42:18.440 No, I don't think so, Steve.
00:42:21.800 Look at history.
00:42:23.360 Look at history around the world.
00:42:26.200 Look at history in these other countries.
00:42:28.240 And then look at what's happening here in this country today.
00:42:31.560 You have the weaponization of our entire criminal justice system targeting a former president of the United States over some inconsequential documents.
00:42:44.640 Really?
00:42:45.740 Really?
00:42:46.740 That's insane.
00:42:48.440 That is completely insane.
00:42:51.200 The bottom line is this is extremely dangerous.
00:42:55.220 I don't trust anybody in government these days, especially in the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:43:03.080 And I got to tell you, Steve, I know a bunch of agents.
00:43:05.460 I know a lot of line agents who are terrified.
00:43:10.100 They're terrified because they're working in an agency that has become so political that it's beyond comprehension.
00:43:18.440 Bernie Hanger for one second.
00:43:22.500 Bernie Kerrick, former police commissioner under Mayor Rudy Giuliani, is with us.
00:43:26.340 Mike Davis from Article 3, one of the smartest guys on Capitol Hill about everything in our legal system.
00:43:35.280 Short commercial break.
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00:47:50.280 Bernie Carrick, you're an expert in all this.
00:47:52.700 Tell me about the rate itself.
00:47:54.900 What struck you as being quite odd, former police commissioner?
00:47:58.780 I think a couple of things, Steve.
00:48:02.820 Some of the stuff I've seen and reports I've read, what were all the backpacks for on the FBI agents?
00:48:09.260 What were they taking into the compound?
00:48:11.540 Where were the evidence bags that came out?
00:48:13.680 Where's the inventory of the items removed, which they have to put together and they're supposed to provide to the target, the target of the search warrant?
00:48:23.700 Also, the AG and the FBI mandates that the agents wear body cams.
00:48:31.500 Is the footage secure?
00:48:33.680 You know, I sent a tweet to Congressman Jordan.
00:48:37.340 Somebody's got to make sure that stuff is preserved.
00:48:39.760 I have a feeling the body cam footage is going to disappear.
00:48:44.320 These are all things that somebody's got to look at.
00:48:47.520 When they conduct this investigation going forward, these are things that somebody has to look at.
00:48:53.600 And I'll say one last thing on the FBI, Steve.
00:48:56.720 I love the FBI.
00:48:58.680 I worked with them hand in hand through 9-11 in the aftermath of 9-11.
00:49:02.760 One of the greatest agencies the world ever put together.
00:49:07.920 That's changed.
00:49:09.400 They need to revamp it.
00:49:11.900 They need to abolish the executive staff from the ground up.
00:49:18.140 It can't be saved.
00:49:19.700 It can't be saved, Bernie.
00:49:20.700 As an Irish Catholic kid growing up in Richmond, Virginia, the Irish Catholic guys they had at the FBI were the best people in the world.
00:49:30.400 The FBI has done so much particularly, not just the mob, but the communism, right, going after the communists.
00:49:36.000 Amazing.
00:49:36.760 The legacy of the FBI and these people have trashed it so badly.
00:49:40.020 It's a systemic problem.
00:49:41.520 The only way it could possibly be saved, which I don't think is there, of enough agents and enough people that actually love it, what it used to be can come forward.
00:49:50.280 It's in your hands to save the FBI.
00:49:52.660 It's in your hands.
00:49:53.920 Because I'm going to tell you, we're coming so hard.
00:49:56.640 You have no earthy idea what we're going to do to get to the bottom of your corruption and, quite frankly, your criminality.
00:50:05.480 Okay?
00:50:06.140 So, Ray, all of it.
00:50:07.640 Merrick Garland.
00:50:08.420 And, by the way, in this case, Ron Klain absolutely knew about the chief of staff.
00:50:11.800 There is zero probability.
00:50:14.080 Zero.
00:50:15.080 Okay?
00:50:15.600 Zero probability the White House did not know about this.
00:50:18.480 Merrick Garland, not in a billion years, would ever authorize that without doing it.
00:50:22.720 Bernie, you agree with that?
00:50:23.800 Listen, there's no way.
00:50:26.460 There's one, Garland had to approve it, and two, he had to tell the president.
00:50:32.580 Now, normally you have to tell the president, or whoever is in charge of the White House.
00:50:38.280 The president may not be that guy.
00:50:40.240 He constantly says.
00:50:41.600 He answers to someone else. 0.52
00:50:43.220 He's got to get approval to speak.
00:50:45.120 He's got to do, you know, he's got to ask for permission to speak.
00:50:48.480 Maybe there's somebody else.
00:50:49.720 Whoever that somebody else is, whoever dictates what Joe Biden's doing, that person authorized Garland to do this right.
00:50:59.580 Okay.
00:51:00.580 Bernie, real quickly, give me all your social media so people can get to you.
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00:51:12.140 Okay, Bernie, thank you very much.
00:51:13.960 Honored to have you on here.
00:51:15.180 Let's go to Mike Davis.
00:51:17.040 Mike, before I talk about Mike, I want to talk about the raid first.
00:51:20.560 We're trying to clear out some time here because I've got to spend some more time with you.
00:51:23.180 We'll get to the Letitia James thing in a second.
00:51:25.360 Give me your assessment, brother.
00:51:27.400 You've been up there.
00:51:28.420 You were a clerk for Gorsuch.
00:51:30.180 You were Grassley's right-hand man.
00:51:31.940 You know how the system works.
00:51:33.020 You have relationships with many people that when they hear the name War Room, spit right on the floor.
00:51:38.240 So you're kind of the connective tissue here.
00:51:40.340 But give me your assessment of this raid, sir.
00:51:42.340 This raid was completely unnecessary and likely unlawful.
00:51:48.460 When you do a raid, you have to – that's a last resort when you're going in, especially a home raid, especially a home raid of a former president.
00:51:55.520 This is unprecedented.
00:51:56.400 What you do when you have a records dispute with a former president in the National Archives is you negotiate.
00:52:03.400 And if it can't get resolved through negotiation, maybe you alert Congress.
00:52:07.340 Maybe you go to a court and file a civil lawsuit.
00:52:10.940 Maybe you do a subpoena.
00:52:12.520 But to go right to a home raid of a former president is beyond the pale.
00:52:17.560 It crosses the red line.
00:52:18.820 And this is part of a bigger pattern by this Biden Justice Department to take out Trump.
00:52:25.100 So he cannot be a rival to President Biden in 2024.
00:52:29.860 Attorney General Burke.
00:52:30.640 Mike, hang on a second.
00:52:33.220 We know from what the attorneys are saying that they've been in constant communication.
00:52:37.200 They thought they were in compliance.
00:52:38.480 They told them to put a bolt on the door.
00:52:40.800 They were going back and forth and supposedly fully engaged according to what we know from Trump's lawyers.
00:52:45.800 So just walk people then through what the steps would be before you would go thermonuclear with a home raid of a former president of these United States, sir.
00:52:56.020 Well, you wouldn't unless there are dead bodies in Mar-a-Lago.
00:52:59.360 So let's just put that out there right out front.
00:53:02.180 But what you would do is you would have the General Counsel of the National Archives work with the office of former President Trump.
00:53:09.000 He has staff that's provided by the federal government.
00:53:12.300 They have security clearances.
00:53:13.880 They have office space.
00:53:15.020 They have secure facilities called SCIFs for classified materials.
00:53:19.280 It is routine for a president to leave the White House with boxes.
00:53:23.280 President Trump didn't pack his own boxes.
00:53:25.380 Someone packed his boxes for him.
00:53:27.440 And sometimes, you know, they over classify everything in the government.
00:53:32.180 And the National Archives thinks that everything is a presidential record and they're entitled to everything.
00:53:36.360 So that's what Trump is up against.
00:53:37.600 And so he leaves.
00:53:39.020 There are these boxes, these 15 boxes.
00:53:41.380 National Archives works with President Trump's office to figure out what's a presidential record, what's not.
00:53:47.820 And then if it's a presidential record, it either goes it goes to the archives or it goes.
00:53:52.860 Mike, Mike, hang on a second.
00:53:54.420 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:53:55.420 I got to get to the bottom of this.
00:53:56.500 Investigate, litigate, incarcerate.
00:53:59.920 That's the mantra.
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