Episode 2088： Where Are The Unredacted AffidavitsÂ
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A federal judge in Washington, D.C. refused to unseal a search warrant for documents related to a search of Trump's Mar-A-Largo residence, but allowed portions of the documents to be unsealed. What does this mean for the ongoing investigation into the Trump administration's handling of the matter?
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came as investigators are still grappling with the dozens of boxes and 11 sets of classified
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documents seized from Mar-a-Lago. NBC News reporting this, quote, more than a week after
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they searched former President Donald Trump's Florida residence, FBI agents are still sifting
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through the seized documents, two law enforcement officials briefed on the matter, told NBC News.
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The FBI's filter team, a group of agents independent of the overall investigation,
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is tasked with separating out documents that are covered by attorney-client privilege
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and material deemed not relevant to the probe. The officials also said that the filter team is
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checking to see whether any of the documents or other materials that are not marked classified
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include classified information. Okay, welcome. It's Thursday, 18, August year old or 2022. You're
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in the war room. I want to start with, we've got Calamity Jane circled down in actual outside the
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hearing if we can get her set up. Is she ready? Okay, we've got Calamity Jane. We're going to go
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to Mike Davis in a second. Jane, give us an assessment of what's going on so far, ma'am.
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Well, right now I am outside of the courtroom where we saw a lot of media presence and this is
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where it happened today where the hearing went down for the probable cause affidavit and the search
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warrant. What type of, what type of, were a lot of Trump supporters there? I saw a ton of people
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or was it simply media? There were some supporters here. There was a lot of media presence and after
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the hearing concluded, we heard from attorney Deanna Shulman who represented the media and the
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public's right for knowledge and she explained what happened in the courtroom. In the courtroom,
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phones were not allowed and so we had to hear after the fact. But what went down in there is Judge
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Reinhardt ultimately decided that the search warrant would be unsealed but only portions of it would be
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unsealed. Now the DOJ has a week to offer redactions and after that week they will confer and we will
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have to just wait and see what we end up as far as the contents of that document. But there were
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several documents released today. You can find that in Docket 57, which I picked up, cover sheets and
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that type of documentation of that nature. And so we have little information but we can, you know,
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hopefully look forward to some more. Okay, we've got Mike Davis going to give us analysis. Jane,
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you're going to join us in Missouri this weekend for the weekend, the summit of all summits in
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Missouri with Mike Lindell and the team. So thank you. I really want to thank the Real America's
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Voice crew for staying out there. Thank you guys so much. By the way, you're going to be all night
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long with John Solomon and of course Dr. Gina Loudon. She was down there today. You'll be able to get
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breaking news of everything related to this, to the court case. Thank you, Jane Zirko. I want to go to
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Mike Davis. So Mike, on the affidavit, you know, it was Tom Fitton's judicial watcher is fantastic in
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the New York Times went in there. I want to start with Heilman's piece because it shows you, I think,
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what a farce this is. They've got the 12 boxes. I mean, come on, dude, how long does it take to go
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through 12 boxes? You see the stuff's classified or not classified and people, you have to remember,
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the government classifies everything. Everything's overclassified. It's secret today is almost like
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confidential was when I was in the Navy. Everything's overclassified. It's the way the
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priest cast kind of keeps their, the ability that we can see the information and you can't remember
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Peter Navarro and I used to sit there in the oval and other things, look at these briefings and turn
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the guy and say, tell me again, why is this classified? And they would go nuts. Nothing triggers
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the CIA more than just mocking their overclassification of documents. So Mike Davis put it in perspective
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what it looked like the government's going to slow walk this entire process. What happened
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today? Yeah. So this U S magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, he's clearly conflicted. He just recused
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from president Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton on June 22nd. He has this 2017 Facebook
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post where he's attacking president Trump's character. He's clearly, he clearly should have
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recused on this rate matter under the United States code and Canon two and Canon two way of the judicial
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cannons. I don't know why he's still dealing with this case today. All he did was said that he was,
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he said, I am not prepared to find that the affidavit should be fully sealed. Right. And he
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said, he's going to go through quote, a careful process unquote with the government. The government's
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going to propose redactions to this affidavit. And then he's going to decide in one week, why does it
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take a week to do this? And the government is going to redact everything. They're going to redact
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everything to the point that it's meaningless. And during this time, while they're redacting this
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affidavit, they're going to continue to illegally leak grand jury material in violation of rule 60
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of the federal rules of criminal procedure, like they did in this news week article a week ago, when
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they illegally leaked out that the grand jury found that Trump violated some law. And they're going to
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continue to drip, drip, drip, to try to re-control the narrative for the next week from this
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affidavit. They should just get out this damn affidavit. What are the sources and methods?
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They went in and done a fishing expedition and retrieved four years of records from President
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Trump. All four years of his presidency, they retrieved from Mar-a-Lago, including going through
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Melania's underwear drawer and breaking into President Trump's safe. What sources and methods
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are they trying to protect? Their job is done according to this, according to what they were after.
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What are they trying to protect? This is a cover-up. They're trying to cover up that this was an
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unprecedented, unnecessary, and illegal home raid authorized by a biased judge.
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Okay, a lot to unpack there. I want to go back. First off, the two things they want to protect is
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the government, the FBI, they want to protect who the informant, it appears that it might have been or
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looks like it could have been an informant. They want to protect the identity of that. They don't
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want that to possibly get out. Also, what they want to protect is what they didn't tell the magistrate,
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right? Particularly the conversations around the warrant from the grand jury, the cooperation with
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the grand jury, President Trump meeting them there. President Trump, when they left, said, hey, if anything
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else you need, contact me. The subsequent visit or the subsequent discussion about putting actually
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a lock on the storage door, all of that. So is that your sense of what they're trying to do? I
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don't understand why it takes a week to do this. There's a sense of urgency in the country to get
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to the bottom of this. It stirs the afternoon. The government can work over the weekend. Why can't
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we have this no later than, you know, opening bell on Monday morning, sir?
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This could happen in four hours. This is ridiculous that this is taking one week.
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You saw there was this Bill Arkin in Newsweek, who the Biden Justice Department has been using as
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their go-to source in the mainstream liberal media to leak out their narrative. He just reported
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yesterday that essentially the reason the Biden Justice Department was doing this home rate of
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President Trump is because Trump declassified records from Russian collusion and other records
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that are embarrassing or politically damaging to Biden, Obama, and Hillary. And that's essentially
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why they're doing this raid. People should read that Newsweek piece because it's, you know, I don't
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think, I think the Biden Justice Department thought they were doing damage control, but all it did was
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cause more damage. And this is a political raid to go after their boss's political enemy,
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President Trump. So Arkin, Newsweek's interesting because Arkin's the guy that had the, about Merrick
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Garland not knowing anything about this, from two senior Justice Department officials who had direct
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knowledge of the matter and were authorized to speak under conditions of anonymity to Arkin.
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Newsweek's never gone back and said they got the story wrong, which is kind of this festering
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sword that's out there in the story. The bombshell we had, we had, we had Boris on this morning.
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I mean, Boris essentially confirmed this story that these were documents related to, particularly
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the Crossfire Hurricane, which Crossfire Hurricane is obviously very controversial. And this may get to
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some of the stuff that Durham never got to or never got public. So if you're saying that, that, that, that
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puts a malevolent aspect on this, that were more, this puts a lie to, they were worried about classified
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information. They were worried about national security. They were worried about nuclear codes.
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Everything they put up to date has kind of faded away in that Washington Post should be ashamed of
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themselves as in, in, in, in CBS news. Every time they get leaked something, it turned, you know,
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we didn't take the passports. They did. This was about nuclear, the highest level urgency of nuclear
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matters. It turns out that's nonsense. Now Newsweek has this, nobody's refuted it. And Boris kind of came out
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that's really the, the raisin detra for this raid. Uh, what is that affidavit? If they don't lay that
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out in the affidavit, do we have essentially criminal charges against whoever put this affidavit
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together and who signed off on it? And I assume brother Davis, Merrick Garland came out there for
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three and a half minutes of wetting himself. And now I know why, if he said he approved it,
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that means to me, he approved the affidavit and what's in the affidavit, Mike Davis.
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Yeah. So think about this. They said that these were highly classified materials that got blown
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apart where we pointed out that the president can declassify anything he wants. And then they said,
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Oh, he stole these presidential records that we had to get back. Well, there is a 2012 case from an
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Obama appointed judge that John Solomon from just the news reported yesterday that held that the
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president has the sole statutory authority to determine whether it's a presidential record
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that goes to the archives and then gets sent back to the presidential library, or it's a personal
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record that goes with Trump. So these North Korean love letters, uh, with Trump, uh, you know,
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Trump says that their personal records, he gets to keep them. So the, the presidential records
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argument is out the door. And remember the presidential records act doesn't even have a criminal
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component. And so now they're saying that there were nuclear documents there. Okay. So if you look at
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the inventory, the inventory sheet of what they retrieved, it shows top secret, it shows top
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secret SCI, which are CIA documents. It shows top secret SAP, which are department of defense
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documents. Where are the Q documents, right? If these are nuclear documents, those would be labeled
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Q with the department of energy. Why weren't there any Q documents labeled on that inventory? Because
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the nuclear documents are not there and they know this. This is another lie to try to make
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this raid look a lot more justified than it was. And this is blowing up. This is unraveling
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in the Biden justice department's face, attorney general Merrick Garland's face,
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and that we just keep catching them and lie after lie after lie. We have to ask this question.
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Why did Merrick Garland leak out? He thought he was doing damage control because he said he
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deliberated for weeks on this. Okay. So if Trump had such sensitive records, including nuclear documents,
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wouldn't you want to get in there right away? You wouldn't wait for weeks. You'd get in there
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right away. So that's just complete nonsense. But it also shows that that gave Merrick Garland
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those weeks that he deliberated the opportunity to judge shop and cherry pick this U.S. magistrate
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judge, Bruce Reinhardt, to sign off on this fishing expedition, illegal home raid warrant of
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President Trump. Unprecedented, unnecessary, unlawful. This stinks all around from the Biden
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Justice Department, and it's blowing up in their faces. I want to go back to the something you bring
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up of John Solomon, and it's about this decision in the Clinton case about presidential records.
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This, I think, was Judge Solomon. This was a real judge, right? And this was a real case and a real
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ruling that's resonated down. This is not some magistrate deciding. Talk to us about that case for a
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second, because that puts to a total eye everything they've been spinning in the media about
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presidential records. Just take a second and walk through that case, the Clinton case.
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Yeah, so John Solomon at Just the News did some great reporting on this yesterday. There was this
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case in 2012 where Judicial Watch Tom Fenton was going after tapes that Bill Clinton had that
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documented his presidency. He was working with a historian, and President Clinton left the White
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House with these tapes and stuck them in literally his underwear drawer, his sock drawer. And Tom Fenton
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tried to get these tapes. And this Judge Amy, Amy Berman Jackson, I think is her name. She's an Obama
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appointee in 2012, wrote this very, very definitive, broad ruling that under the presidential records,
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she shielded Clinton from having to turn over these tapes. And she ruled that these were not
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presidential records or they may not be presidential records because President Clinton, as the president
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of the United States, had the sole authority under the Presidential Records Act to determine whether they
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were personal versus presidential records when he left. So again, let's step back and remember this. They
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are either classified or unclassified records under the Espionage Act. That's separate from the
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Presidential Records Act. The Espionage Act is very serious if you have classified records. President
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Trump did not because he declassified them. So then they're trying to pivot to that these are
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presidential records or government property. And this ruling from Judge Jackson held that it is the
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president's sole discretion to determine whether it's personal property or government property under
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the Presidential Records Act. So that's game over. And that's the point. Merrick Garland said he had weeks
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to deliberate on this decision. Why didn't Merrick Garland seek an opinion from the Office of Legal
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Counsel or OLC at the Justice Department to deal with these issues of this constitutional issue
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on the classification or this issue on presidential records? And the answer is very obvious. He didn't,
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he knew he would get the wrong answer from the Office of Legal Counsel. So he just didn't get,
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he just didn't seek their opinion. He ordered this home raid to go retrieve politically embarrassing
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Okay, I have Mike Davis from Article 3. Mike, here's what I understand. You know, and the audience
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obviously has a great affinity for you. You're always very judicious, a lot of gravitas.
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You know, Merrick Garland came that close to having a lifetime appointment on the Supreme
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Court of the United States. That close. He was supposed to be so highly respected. And I'd
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say, I take pride in stepping into the Trump campaign in August of 2016 and having a tiny
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role in making sure that didn't happen. But he's got a reputation. These guys around the
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just for you get all these Harvard Law School guys, Yale Law School guys, you know, Stanford
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Law, they're all, you know, Columbia. And these articles are out there about Trump can't get
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lawyers and Trump's team's all discombobulated and they're all running around. This thing from
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the Justice Department side, as an observer, is an embarrassing mess. Whether it's a different
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story every day, it's a different leak that contradicts something else.
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What compelled them, brother, to have to trip over themselves to get down to Mar-a-Lago as
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soon as possible and just don't care about the law and just put their hands in these documents
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Well, I think we saw this in an Arkansas Newsweek piece yesterday that they know that the documents
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that President Trump declassified when he was leaving the White House related to Russiagate
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and other very politically damaging documents for Obama, Hillary, and Biden, it was worth
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it to the Biden Justice Department to take the political blowback now to go to a fishing
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expedition and go grab every document from Trump for four years in the White House. And
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so they had them. And so Trump could not use them for 2022 and 2024. So they're willing to
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take the heat because they know there aren't going to be any consequences for what they've done.
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There never is. We saw that with the Durbin probe, that there's never a consequence when
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the Democrats use the justice to politicize the Justice Department to go after the political
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In your professional opinion, given your thing, the affidavit, you're saying if they were
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serious, it would take three, four, five hours. You could make that ruling and say by close
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the business tomorrow, you could have the redact and then have the government argue with the
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judge and the lawyers. You're saying it doesn't, a week is absurd. A week shows they're slow walking
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it to basically keep the documents they've got.
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It's a week is so they can try to regain control of the paper box. And it would take four hours at
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best. You go through and you black out names and you black out. So you black out the sources,
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the names, and you black out the methods. If there's anything that would reveal who those sources are,
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then you would black those out. Other than that, what else is there, right? If there's a Secret
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Service agent on Trump's detail, who's the source, black it out. Black out the fact that they were
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the Secret Service. What else is there? Just release the affidavit. They're already, the Biden Justice
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Department's already selectively leaking. They're cherry picking and selectively leaking from this
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affidavit to make Trump look worse than he is. Release the affidavit. Why is this? And the judge has a
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vested interest in keeping this secret as well, because he's the one who signed off on this
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affidavit, this fishing expedition, asking for four years of presidential records, which is just
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obscene that he did that. That's just illegal on its face. Any appellate court that had any sense
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would say that that was an improper order of a search. So this judge has a vested interest,
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as does the Biden Justice Department, to keep as much information from the public as possible.
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Mike, how do people get to you and follow you on social media at Article 3, because there's
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news breaking. You're putting stuff up all day. Yeah, article3project.org, article3project.org,
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and at Article 3 and all the social sites, or excuse me, at Article 3 Project and all the social
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sites, and my personal is MRDDMIS. Mike, thank you for taking time away to do this. Appreciate it.
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Thank you. Okay, I want to play. We had a very, I thought a great interview. We put it up and it
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went viral with Dr. Seb Gorka kind of making his first regular appearance. We're going to have
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Seb on at least once a week from now to the future. And I believe that Mike Pence responded
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to that interview yesterday in New Hampshire. Can we play the Mike Pence clip?
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The Republican Party is the party of law and order. Our party stands with the men and women
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who serve on the thin blue line at the federal and state and local level. And these attacks on
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the FBI must stop. Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police.
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The truth of the matter is, we need to get to the bottom of what happened. We need to let
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the facts play out. But more than anything else, the American people need to be reassured in
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the integrity of our justice system and very appearance of a recurrence of politics playing
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our role in decisions at the Justice Department demands transparency as never before. And I will
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continue to call on the Attorney General and the Justice Department to make that information
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available to the American people and do so now. Okay, joining us is Dr. Seb Gorka, who is my deputy
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in the White House. And Dr. Gorka also has obviously his huge radio show on Salem Media, Salem Radio.
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Dr. Gorka, you came in last week for your first appearance on a regular basis. And when DEF CON
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won on this entire situation, particularly given your long history with the FBI, and someone who's
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been a consultant, a counselor, a teacher at the FBI Academy and Quantico all over about radical
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jihad, you were pretty blunt. Give us your assessment of Mike Pence's response to you, sir.
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Yeah, until you said that, Steve, I didn't think about that aspect. I used the cut today on my show.
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But if that's a response to our interview, I did get hot under the collar, because this is personal
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for me. As you said, I've trained thousands of agents, IAs and SOS support staff. But what is it?
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So we're not allowed to criticize the police in America. We back the blue unless they're corrupt.
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And the FBI is corrupt. Mike did an amazing job telling everyone what is wrong and what stinks
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with the search warrant. To have him say, oh, they're just following orders. Steve, you're a
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historian. When did we hear that phrase, just following orders? We heard that phrase a lot at
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something called the Nuremberg trials. In American law, it is illegal for an officer of the military
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or for a law enforcement federal agent to obey an illegal law, an illegal order. It's just it is it is
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part and parcel of your training. If you receive an illegal order, you are not to obey it. What if,
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you know, attorney general had said to the FBI agents, hey, just go and assassinate President
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Trump? Do they assassinate him? Of course they don't. This this is a political husk of a man.
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He is a political zombie. Why he's in New Hampshire. Tucker's right. What do you think you're going to be
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president like Liz Cheney as well, Mike? You you you treated me well in the White House. But but
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after January 6, you are a political non entity. And not only that you are backing up
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places like CNN, I played on my radio show today, Caitlin Collins saying, oh, oh, we can't release
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the video from Mar-a-Lago of the search because the lives of those FBI agents may be put in danger.
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They they have to stay anonymous. Steve, you've traveled the world. Where where where do police
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officers stay anonymous? Where do they wear balaclavas on their faces? Where do they remove
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their badges and put them in their pockets? You know where they do that in dictatorships,
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in authoritarian regimes where you're not allowed to know who the police officer is who comes to your
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house and raids it. So so now the FBI, we're going to issue balaclavas for FBI special agents next, Steve.
00:25:14.720
Seb, go to the heart. I want to go with Mike Davis. Just talk about this Newsweek story.
00:25:19.840
John Solomon broke this reporting also about what the purpose, because it's very bizarre.
00:25:26.860
Look, you've had the highest level security clearances and in every one of their stories
00:25:31.260
has fallen apart, whether it's nuclear, whether it's other aspects of it. And so you kind of sit
00:25:34.740
in there going, what was what is this whole thing about? Why would they risk, you know,
00:25:39.500
basically galvanizing the nation in back of Trump? And then they come up with it could be
00:25:44.000
Crossfire Hurricane. I just want you to put in perspective how radioactive even that name is
00:25:50.440
for Crossfire Hurricane. Yeah. So I actually still have my clearances. So one of the last things the
00:25:55.980
president did is he gave me a second presidential appointment. So I'm still a member of the National
00:26:00.640
Security Education Board till got still got my TSSCI. Let's be clear. What Mike said is absolutely right.
00:26:06.940
Number one, you can only the Presidential Records Act has no criminal annex. There's nothing there's
00:26:13.120
no criminal statute aspect of the Records Act. It's just an agreement that the after Nixon,
00:26:19.340
the records have to be put in an archive. As a result, you can't raid somebody's house based upon
00:26:25.360
the Presidential Records Act. You have to get a warrant. A warrant has to pertain to a crime that has
00:26:31.820
committed or a crime that is imminently about to be committed. So why does Merrick Garland sit on it
00:26:39.100
for three weeks? Is the crime imminent or not? And then secondly, Mike's point is very,
00:26:45.020
very specific, and it's absolutely on the money. The release of this warrants affidavit can be done
00:26:52.840
now. It could have been done the day, the day Judicial Watch takes up its case against that judge
00:27:00.140
and that court. Why? Because you go in, you've got the 16-page affidavit, and you say, okay,
00:27:05.740
what in here is set? They know what's in it. Sources and methods. If you've got a CI, if you've got a
00:27:11.120
confidential informant, you black out their name and you release it. The DOJ, shock horror, knows what's
00:27:17.440
in the affidavit. They know what needs to be redacted or not redacted. The reason they can't reveal it,
00:27:24.300
I'll just quote Kash Patel. Kash Patel, who I didn't know until he came on my show last week,
00:27:29.660
is President Trump's representative to the National Archives, a former DOJ counterterrorism
00:27:37.380
prosecutor, Devin Nunes' former chief investigator, and former deputy of national intelligence. He said,
00:27:45.080
he said it explicitly, these documents are connected to Operation Crossfire Hurricane and to
00:27:50.940
Russia collusion hoax. They need to bury them. They need to put them in the burn bag, Steve,
00:27:57.840
before we find out. Seb, I'm going to ask you to stay just for a few minutes on the other side.
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Okay, we have a war room for us. I got Seb Gorkin. We're about to bring in Lou Dobbs. This is the
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biggest power segment we've ever had in the history of the show. Seb, in the movie Nixon, Oliver Stone,
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it's kind of all over the map, but it's got some very powerful moments. They talk about when they're
00:31:34.620
over at the CIA. They say, oh, but I think it's Project Anaconda, and they say, oh, you can't
00:31:39.320
talk about that. It was the Bay of Pigs combined with trying to kill Castro. Crossfire Hurricane
00:31:44.120
elicits that same response in official Washington, D.C. Can you take a minute or two and just explain
00:31:49.680
to the audience why that's going to come to the forefront now in this investigation, sir?
00:31:56.080
But first, let me just remind you of an event that occurred in the Oval Office when the word
00:32:01.180
heavies was used, not about me and Lou, but do you remember when it was time for the president
00:32:05.900
to kill the JCPOA Iran deal, and he had all the swamp creatures in there? He had Tillerson,
00:32:11.960
H.R. McMaster, Mnuchin, and Reins, and they were arrayed in front of the Resolute desk, and he called
00:32:18.840
you and me, and he said, I need my heavies. Get in here, Stephen, Seb. You tell these guys why we have
00:32:25.160
to kill the Iran deal. Do you remember that? Oh, I do remember. Do I ever? The heavies. A pleasant
00:32:31.380
memory. You and me against the swamp. All right, so Operation Crossfire Hurricane is unprecedented
00:32:39.460
in American history. Never before, never before since the National Security Act of 1947 that created
00:32:46.080
the NSC and the CIA did we have the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA get involved in a tri-agency targeting of
00:32:55.920
a political campaign. Crossfire Hurricane is the targeting of General Mike Flynn, George Papadopoulos,
00:33:02.380
and Carter Page to use internal and external intelligence agencies to go against a presidential
00:33:09.420
campaign. The big question is, who instigated it? I think, having watched this for six years now,
00:33:16.080
Comey was obeying somebody's orders. Was it Brennan who voted for the Communist Party before he was
00:33:22.820
hired by the CIA, which is a little peculiar in and of itself? How do you admit to voting for the
00:33:28.640
Communist Party candidate for president on your polygraph interview for the CIA and get hired by
00:33:34.940
the CIA and eventually become its director? And not only that, let's make some news here on your show.
00:33:40.620
I was told by the former station chief, I'm not going to mention which city, somewhere in the Middle
00:33:46.360
East, former CIA station chief, that there was a four-man contractor team at the NSA that was
00:33:55.240
surveilling you and me when we were in the White House. Crossfire Hurricane isn't just about the
00:34:02.000
campaign. It's not just about what happened before the election. It's about what happened in the deep
00:34:07.460
state targeting you, me, President Trump, and the real MAGA people after 64 million Americans elected
00:34:15.000
him. Hold on. I also want to drop another. MI5 and MI6 are going to come up as part of Crossfire
00:34:20.640
Hurricane. When this all starts to come out, you're going to hear MI5, MI6, and maybe a couple of three.
00:34:26.000
Australian ambassador. Australia. Maybe even some of the Five Eyes program. Just throwing it out there
00:34:32.380
that you're going to see other intelligence services in connection with our intelligence
00:34:37.300
service. Is that correct, Seb Gorka? We know it. We've got Ambassador Downing on the record who tried
00:34:43.500
to set up George Papadopoulos for that honeypot with Azra Turk. Who is Azra Turk? There's no such thing
00:34:50.520
as an FBI investigator. You're either an IA, an SOS, or a special agent. Who is this FBI investigator
00:34:57.560
who's trying to honeypot George Papadopoulos in London? That's a bit strange. She works either for
00:35:03.220
the NSA or for the CIA. She's deep cover. Would it be nice to know why Ambassador Downing, who when he was
00:35:09.860
the foreign minister of Australia, gave millions of dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative. He's
00:35:16.580
involved in Crossfire Hurricane. The mind boggles, Steve. You pull one thread, one thread.
00:35:22.120
Hold it. And this was all supposed to be behind us. This was all supposed to be behind us. They
00:35:26.760
brought it up. They had to go down. Newsweek Magazine is reporting it, and this is not Breitbart or
00:35:32.380
Seb Gorka's show or Lou Dobbs or The War Room. Seb, we've got to bounce. How do people get to you,
00:35:37.680
particularly in social media, to keep up with you and your podcast?
00:35:41.360
Yeah, just look for Seb Gorka on all social media, on Truth Social, Twitter, Instagram,
00:35:46.200
S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A, and the website is sebgorka.com. Three hours a day, Salem Media. Be there,
00:35:55.760
Remember, Seb, since not some commentator, observer, he was actually in the fight,
00:36:00.220
really in the fight. Seb, thank you very much. Honored to have you on.
00:36:03.360
Thank you, Steve. God bless you and the Hobbits.
00:36:06.920
Thank you. So let's play. I want to play Lou Dobbs' cold open.
00:36:10.420
The Republican Party is the party of law and order.
00:36:12.500
Our party stands with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line at the federal
00:36:18.580
and state and local level. These attacks on the FBI must stop.
00:36:25.680
Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police.
00:36:29.680
And the truth of the matter is, we need to get to the bottom of what happened.
00:36:38.960
We need to let the facts play out. But more than anything else,
00:36:43.700
the American people need to be reassured in the integrity of our justice system
00:36:50.560
and very appearance of a recurrence of politics playing our role in decisions of the Justice
00:36:58.080
Department demands transparency as never before. And I will continue to call on the Attorney General
00:37:05.120
and the Justice Department to make that information available to the American people and do so now.
00:37:12.360
Okay, the great Lou Dobbs from The Great American Show joins us. Lou, I always like to have you on here.
00:37:18.480
And we normally like to talk about a political economy, capital markets, the Fed.
00:37:24.440
But I've got to ask you, give us your assessment of Mike Pence and what he had to say yesterday, sir.
00:37:30.860
Tragically delusional, a man who is egoistic without understanding himself,
00:37:38.840
which is something of a contradiction and not even remotely amusing, ironically.
00:37:44.500
The man has no chance to be president. The man has no chance, in my estimation, to be even a contender.
00:37:52.400
And for him to be virtue signaling to the MAGA base, a base that he neither understands, is in touch with,
00:38:00.860
nor obviously respects, because that was a condescending and pompously highest statement.
00:38:08.480
Oh, we've got to respect the FBI. We've got to respect the Justice Department. We've got to take the tone down again.
00:38:14.080
All of this nonsense. Americans were born skeptical, ingenious, innovative, hardworking, plain spoken.
00:38:22.060
So I'm going to be plain spoken. This is the kind of nonsense that the left-wing media love.
00:38:28.660
A right-wing, ostensibly, person taking down their leaders, taking down their ideology, and their leading candidates.
00:38:38.480
Mike Pence doing all of that. He was the counterpoint, if you will, to Liz Cheney.
00:38:45.180
This is ignorance. The mainstream media has the John McCain chair reserved for everyone, like Pence, like Liz Cheney.
00:38:52.300
They get to fight over who gets to sit in it. Last weekend, it was Mike McCall saying,
00:38:57.620
we've got to respect the FBI and the Department of Justice, no matter how venal, how corrupt, or how toxic they are to this great republic.
00:39:06.960
Nonsense. The American people have got to speak up.
00:39:09.420
And leaders, so-called, like Pence and McCall, this is, Cheney, they're preposterous pretenders.
00:39:19.780
And it's time for real leaders to get behind, in my judgment, the only leader who counts in this moment in history,
00:39:26.940
and that's Donald J. Trump. He is the former president. I think he is also the future president.
00:39:32.700
And I know this, after six years of political persecution, not the Justice Department, not the CIA, not the FBI,
00:39:42.140
none of them fought him in some sort of collusion with a foreign enemy.
00:39:49.560
No, they were all guilty. Four leaders of the FBI, how many names were put their pens to paper fraudulently on FISA documents?
00:39:59.740
I mean, the list goes on. Adam Schiff, the one who wants to be Speaker of the House and was the chair of the House Intel Committee,
00:40:06.880
lying through his teeth and still doing so. Jamie Raskin, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden.
00:40:15.360
The list goes on. It's time for people to understand the Marxist dims are here to destroy the country.
00:40:21.420
Every leader who cares about this country, this republic, and values our Constitution and our values.
00:40:27.080
It is time for the Republicans and dependents of this country, all citizens, in my opinion, to say enough.
00:40:34.460
And it is time, without question, to shut down the National Security Division of the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:40:42.520
They are a major problem. The Patriot Act has got to be, in my opinion, rescinded and replaced with something
00:40:50.220
that is both rational and comports to the Constitution.
00:40:54.400
The Patriot Act is the genesis of all that we are witnessing now, the political use of the surveillance state
00:41:01.060
for the purposes of the Marxist dims who now lead the Democrat Party.
00:41:06.480
Lou, on your show for years, you would hammer this like nobody else.
00:41:11.560
And I tell you, it wasn't Lou Dobbs or Steve Banner or anybody that was going to bring this up in this era
00:41:16.440
when he talked about Biden, the inflation, the illegitimate regime, the southern border, all these issues in the nation.
00:41:22.820
Newsweek's breaking that the reason for this, which is kind of a reason.
00:41:33.460
Tell the audience, when you mention Crossfire Hurricane.
00:41:39.220
Okay, let's go to Boris where we get Lou in a reboot because I want Lou back up.
00:41:42.660
Boris, give us an update on this ridiculous ruling today.
00:41:47.620
Mike Davis was on here and said it would take three or four hours.
00:41:53.100
You could have it by lunch tomorrow, but if you gave him a thing, you could have it by close of business.
00:42:00.400
Well, they're slow walking it because the judge attempted this complete, you know, split the baby approach,
00:42:08.560
which made no sense really whatsoever, but even the way he did it, he absolutely pushed back very hard on the DOJ.
00:42:16.060
The DOJ thought they were going to walk in there today and get a complete win,
00:42:21.980
Well, and this Judge Reinhardt, who is not an impartial judge, who said really negative things about President Trump,
00:42:28.040
instead said, yeah, I'm inclined to unseal the affidavit.
00:42:32.700
Sure, you can tell me what kind of redactions you can make.
00:42:37.940
So as you're seeing this play out, including on social media, undoubtedly a win for those who are fighting for transparency, full stop.
00:42:47.800
President Trump has insisted and demanded for the full affidavit, unredacted, to be provided to the American people.
00:42:54.240
And now this fight, and what's interesting is you've got a judicial point with the New York Times and other mainstream media outlets.
00:43:03.300
So you've got universal across the political spectrum agreement that we've got to make this affidavit public and unredacted.
00:43:11.860
Okay, we have three buckets of, we have the affidavit, we have a search warrant, and you've got the videos.
00:43:18.680
Why didn't President Trump, why don't we just start flooding the zone with information?
00:43:22.900
Clearly, the DOJ, in this Newsweek story, and you confirmed it this morning, if this is about documents related to Russia hoax,
00:43:30.180
but most specifically to Project Crossfire Hurricane, this is going to send, because you're going to bring in these intelligence services,
00:43:42.440
These are two issues, and it's very important to delineate that.
00:43:46.000
What was declassified, the Crossfire Hurricane Inferno classified,
00:43:48.960
I have no information to believe that that information is what was at Mar-a-Lago.
00:43:55.640
The Crossfire Hurricane Inferno, the Russia hoax, Inferno, President Trump declassified,
00:44:00.960
as was his duty as the American president, his right as the American president,
00:44:04.520
that information has been refused to be released by the National Archives,
00:44:08.440
and we've been fighting for that release and for the American people to see that information.
00:44:13.920
The other side is this un-American, unwarranted, unnecessary raid after full cooperation and compliance from President Trump.
00:44:23.940
Both of them, though, show the DOJ's and the Democrats' complete aversion to transparency,
00:44:30.340
while you've got Merrick Garland out there screaming and stuttering about how into transparency he is.
00:44:35.720
I tell you what, Boris, let's take a short commercial break.
00:44:45.360
He's going to join us first thing tomorrow morning on the 10 o'clock show.
00:44:47.860
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:44:49.440
We're going to turn back to Boris Epstein and Lou Dobbs in a moment.
00:45:10.180
We've got Lou Dobbs back up, but I want to go back to Boris.
00:45:15.360
Why didn't the president just go into court and say,
00:45:22.940
They're trying to slow walk this for political gain.
00:45:26.420
And now we can suppose, because every day they change their story about what this is about.
00:45:36.940
We found out they took the diplomatic passports.
00:45:39.420
Why doesn't the president go a little more on offense in the courts?
00:45:47.000
But why are we not leaning forward into this a tad more in the court system, sir?
00:45:53.060
Well, Steve, President Trump and the American movement are winning this battle, undoubtedly,
00:45:59.680
In terms of the court system, you've got an unprecedented event where you've got left-wing
00:46:04.740
mainstream media and right-wing or center-right entities such as Judicial Watch, which are
00:46:10.860
cooperating together to get to full transparency.
00:46:13.800
And President Trump has publicly supported them to the point, Steve, where Judicial Watch actually
00:46:18.260
supplemented their filing with two of President Trump's statements on Truth Social, the one
00:46:24.340
where he called for all documents to be released and for the affidavit to be released without
00:46:30.520
So right now, the actions that are being taken in court in front of this magistrate judge are
00:46:39.800
Now, in terms of potential steps down the road, trust you me and make sure that the posse isn't
00:46:45.860
President Trump is going to be taking all appropriate actions to not just safeguard the
00:46:52.700
information and to protect the executive privilege and attorney-client privilege, but
00:46:57.520
also push back on this unwarranted, unnecessary, and un-American raid and break-in of his home
00:47:11.600
But as of now, and as you see on every outlet, including mainstream media, the DOJ is in such
00:47:17.960
a terrible, you know, mainstream media, right-wing media, left-wing media, is such a terrible
00:47:23.480
PR position that it actually puts him in a horrible position in terms of the forward
00:47:31.160
Keep in mind, folks, President Trump is neither a target nor a subject of this investigation,
00:47:36.460
There's been—he isn't even really a part of it.
00:47:38.280
They raided his home after there was full cooperation on any and all requests from the
00:47:43.500
So it is incumbent, actually, upon the DOJ for them to explain—and that's what the
00:47:48.360
New York Times and the Judicial Watch and others are demanding—it's their job to explain
00:47:53.540
why they rolled into President Trump's—their job to explain why they violated the Fourth
00:47:59.520
Amendment, illegal search and seizure—their job to explain why they used these weak pretexts
00:48:05.360
of legislation that doesn't even apply to President Trump to do it.
00:48:08.580
And that is what the—that's what was called on them today, and now they have to fight
00:48:14.000
One thing real quick, just give me a minute because I've got to get to Lou.
00:48:17.380
The big headline today is that the pressure and the focus on this from the Warren Posse and
00:48:22.800
others, right, the Seb Gorkas, the Lou Dobbs, is in the war rooms, is he was actually—he
00:48:29.280
was actually pretty—he was actually pretty even-handed today or was not so pro-DOJ?
00:48:40.140
The DOJ thought that they were going to be allowed to keep everything sealed.
00:48:43.980
And Reinhardt, because of the war room posse, because there's used to pressure from great
00:48:48.440
America that Lou Dobbs, Seb Gorkas, and of course, because of President Trump's very
00:48:52.580
outspoken position—remember, President Trump said specifically the judge should recuse, but
00:48:57.860
now you've got a judge who's saying to the DOJ, you know what, I'm inclined to go against
00:49:00.980
I'll hear you out in the redactions, but I'm inclined to rule against you in a very
00:49:04.780
important ruling because the affidavit, historically, is where the DOJ has put in either omissions
00:49:10.760
or commissions, right, on truth or withholding information, on FISA, with Carter Page, with
00:49:18.740
This was a win for the MAGA movement, the Warren Posse, under the leadership of President
00:49:23.480
Give us your coordinates, because people want to follow this 24-7.
00:49:28.880
We're hot, hot on the website, BorisCP.com, hot on getter at BorisCP, on Twitter at BorisCP,
00:49:34.840
hot on truthsocial at Boris, the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
00:49:40.000
Another win for MAGA, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:49:45.820
Lou, put this in perspective of what happened today, particularly given this debacle, this embarrassing
00:49:55.100
An illegal search and seizure raid carried out by the FBI and the Department of Justice
00:50:01.920
without specific charges against their purported target.
00:50:08.100
The headline on that, by the way, just says who?
00:50:18.060
They have also, as usual, contradicted themselves on the reasons and the purpose of the raid
00:50:23.620
and the fact that it took nine and a half hours to do what the FBI and the DOJ can usually
00:50:34.460
And everyone has the predicate wrong in the national corporate media, Steve.
00:50:38.300
What we are witnessing is the FBI and the DOJ performing exactly to pattern and to the absolutely corrupt
00:50:49.360
standards that we've witnessed for six years as they persecuted Donald Trump and conservatives
00:50:55.480
and the administration and members of it, including, of course, yourself.
00:50:59.760
This is preposterous, that Bruce Reinhardt, the magistrate here, would have any standard
00:51:10.320
other than for the FBI and the DOJ demonstrate that there was a reason for that search and seizure
00:51:16.900
and to do so by putting that warrant before the American people.
00:51:21.200
President Trump, today, as you know, called for it to be absolutely, not redacted, but absolutely
00:51:28.120
This administration, the Marxist Dems who lead the Democrat Party, the deep state, the
00:51:34.160
FBI, the DOJ, they are all right now treating the American people as if they had no right
00:51:47.380
The public right to know is part of our Constitution.
00:51:51.220
It is implicit in the Constitution that we are required to give our consent.
00:51:58.120
At our own volition, not the demands of the government.
00:52:02.300
And this government has everything just upside down and we had better get it fixed now.
00:52:07.680
This has to be released to the American public because otherwise, all those people braying
00:52:13.360
about, you've got to respect the FBI and the DOJ, the CIA, which is utter nonsense.
00:52:19.280
But those people are the ones who should be saying, please release this so that they will
00:52:24.600
respect you, so they will know what your motives were and what you were seeking and whether
00:52:29.440
you're comported to the Fourth Amendment and the laws of search and seizure.
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This isn't about what Donald Trump has to prove.
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