00:00:30.000okay welcome you're in the war room special edition we're live here in
00:00:56.240springfield missouri the springfield convention center it is the summit moment of truth summit
00:01:01.200to get to the bottom of everything that happened on 3 november 2020 and everything we're doing to
00:01:06.320make sure that we close the deal this november we we got an all-star cast joining us today liz
00:01:11.420herrington's going to be here in a moment we've got emerald robinson joe hoft uh seth keschel
00:01:16.280uh just on and on joe allen's also going to join us uh in this uh next two hours want to really
00:01:21.600I thank Real America's Voice for having us here live.
00:01:24.740This is kind of the great awakening part of this for the next couple of hours here.
00:01:28.420There's a lot of spiritual discussions, a lot of great music discussion, talks, all that.
00:01:34.880So we're going to be cutting in and out of the main stage with our guests.
00:01:37.300We want to start with a major development overnight, an assassination attempt on Alexander Dugan,
00:01:43.980one of the most prominent geopolitical thinkers in the world and, of course, the chief strategist for Putin.
00:01:49.400outside of moscow a uh an attack in an automobile blown up his daughter died and other young people
00:01:56.220injured i wanted to go to jack posobik uh jack who joins us by phone jack put in perspective how
00:02:02.580well how massive a development of this is uh and is this ukrainian intelligence with assistance
00:02:08.000from the cia that did this what's the latest hey good morning steve good morning everyone and as
00:02:13.880of course you know the reports are still coming in so normal caveats as usual we have no idea
00:02:19.160who did this or how it was planned out from what we have heard so far local authorities
00:02:24.840are reporting that the car was in fact the father's car but she happened to be driving it
00:02:32.240they were at some kind of family reunion and it's the car he normally drives yet she was driving it
00:02:38.940he rode in another car and that an explosive device was found underneath the driver's seat
00:02:45.900And so this does look as though it was a planned assassination attempt on Dugan himself.
00:02:51.500I'm seeing some people saying that they may have been targeting the daughter, but it seems more than likely that this was an attempt on Dugan.
00:02:57.920Now, because he was in the car next to her, there's also videos you can see of him outside the vehicle, hands on his head, just utter shock.
00:03:06.200And I think what people need to understand is that regardless of your stance on this war, you have to understand this is a major escalation.
00:03:13.920This could potentially be a Franz Ferdinand moment on the Eurasian landmass.
00:03:21.300And, you know, I'm sure Victoria Nuland and all of her buddies are popping bottles down at the State Department right now.
00:03:27.360But I would say I would pump the brakes just a little bit because you have to understand that there are going to be responses to this
00:03:35.960and there are going to be geopolitical fallout on the backs of committing terrorist attacks, assassinations inside the Capitol.0.52
00:03:43.920we're going to have to have immediately where this is going to have to be come forward the cia
00:03:50.100any cia involvement in this with sbu has to come up we have to know any american involvement because
00:03:55.780you're absolutely correct this is a major escalation this is not just putin's inner circle
00:04:01.300this is the considered the chief strategist for the whole eurasian strategy of putin whether you
00:04:06.020agree with that or not this is the this is be like an assassination attempt in the united states of
00:04:10.980a senior level member of the government now their talk is sbu is trying to take credit for this but
00:04:15.920the sbu the ukrainian intelligence services which by the way are totally controlled by the cia it's
00:04:21.200impossible for them you agree jack to be able to strike into the heart of putin's inner circle
00:04:26.560in moscow in the suburbs of moscow without without help from other intelligence services whether
00:04:32.740that's people in the fsb or kgb that have been that have turned or but it's impossible for ukrainian
00:04:38.680intelligence be able to do this themselves jack wasovic well steve we know that ukraine has
00:04:45.020received uh considerable u.s intelligence assistance throughout this war so it certainly
00:04:49.920wouldn't be anything um over the what's just routine for them to say for us to say that there
00:04:55.740have been u.s intelligence high level coordination with ukrainian intelligence now to say that they
00:05:01.000would commit something like this and the u.s would allow themselves to be involved i mean that would
00:05:05.640be super super high level i mean the u.s of course if anything like this was done it would be
00:05:10.700completely off the books and more like the passing of information that type of thing
00:05:14.600rather than any official uh official setup and also i mean you think about it you could even be
00:05:20.020going on the dark web and find some people within russia and going and paying them in bitcoin there's
00:05:24.920been these the russian mystery fires that have been going on since the beginning of the war
00:05:29.360nobody's really sure what's going on there but it seems like people are just getting paid off on the
00:05:33.880dark web to go and do that, you know, setting fire to Russian recruitment stations, things like
00:05:39.320this. And so the idea is it would be completely untraceable if any Western intelligence were
00:05:46.420involved. But that being said, the idea is they're now hitting soft targets. And I think people need
00:05:52.820to understand that and internalize it, that if you've set the table now, if you set the bar
00:05:57.300in attacking soft targets deep within your enemy's capital,
00:06:01.860then if that's the case, what is the reprisal going to be?
00:06:08.140And this is exactly how World War I kicked off.
00:06:11.280This is what slid everyone into the guns of August situation
00:06:14.300because what it was, you know, Gabrielle Princip and Franz Ferdinand
00:06:18.400and the coffee shop and all that, Sarajevo, the crown prince of Austria,
00:06:22.380you know, striking back at the Ottomans.
00:06:24.280The question is, is this a moment or will this lead to further escalation that gets everyone to trigger their treaties like the NATO treaty and then tip this over into a much more cost?
00:06:37.220And we've seen, by the way, Ukraine now striking more and more into Russian held territory like Crimea.
00:06:43.680They're striking into places across the border in Belgorod.
00:06:46.620So this has been going on for several weeks now, and we're seeing now this attack inside Russia, which, of course, we can't say for sure that it was the Ukrainian intelligence services, but certainly I think that's where everyone is thinking right now.
00:06:59.180jack before i let you go we know you're heading to mass with the family uh so let's go here in
00:07:05.740a second um you know my theory of the case is and i've said this since uh the great jonathan swan
00:07:11.180did that interview with zielinski main stage at the party of davos in the world economic forum
00:07:17.980where zielinski's lecture on us that we should read memoirs we don't know enough we haven't read
00:07:22.560the memoirs of world war ii which i said the next day he should read the best and the brightest
00:07:26.920to start he should start reading up on a guy named President Diem in Vietnam we've seen the
00:07:32.080White House trying to distance themselves from Zelensky the Tom Friedman leak there's been these
00:07:36.320leaks about the people the Washington Post interview where Zelensky said I didn't tell
00:07:40.360the people in uh in Ukraine about the invasion because I didn't want everybody to flee there's
00:07:45.640a lot of the Ukrainian people are turning on him do you believe this is the opening gambit in the
00:07:50.380internal intelligence services what the administrative or what people call the deep
00:07:54.460state starting to move on zelinski that's like they're going to try to negotiate a deal with
00:07:58.800get him out or eventually go president diem on him jack pasovic well steve you have been calling
00:08:05.600that laying on the card on the table that we're going to see assassinations and you've been saying
00:08:10.360that all week and then boom here we see one not in kiev but actually over in moscow the idea that
00:08:16.360the intelligence services the national security services are starting to step up and whether that's
00:08:21.320the raid on Mar-a-Lago, this attack in Moscow, we're starting to see that because the geopolitical
00:08:27.120situation has gotten so caustic and so frictive at this point, that now we're seeing the
00:08:33.520intelligence, this is where one spark can ignite a powder keg, and the world is a powder keg right
00:08:39.860now. Remember, you've got Zelensky saying that at the World Economic Forum, he says that's a swan,
00:08:44.280but then he goes over to the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, and says that he wants to bring
00:08:48.740them in. He understands that that relationship is unsteady. We're seeing that with Thomas Friedman.
00:08:54.660We're seeing that in a variety of other articles. That being said, the money seems to be continuing
00:08:58.860to come from Washington. But everyone knows that any spark could ignite this into a much
00:09:04.140greater situation. And that's the same domestically as it is internationally. And that's where these
00:09:10.500intelligence services or even potential third party chaos agent actors can come in and set
00:09:16.720the entire world on fire you you've just nailed it in diem diem when the americans tried to get0.91
00:09:23.220him to heave to about the buddhist burning themselves in saigon he said hey look there0.98
00:09:27.860are other sponsors out there that was zelinski said hey i want the ccp here and told she0.84
00:09:32.260i see ukraine as a land bridge into europe he's been playing with fire and zelinski ought to
00:09:37.960understand if his sbu did this that hey all bets are off on this thing right now jack vasovic you
00:09:43.520You've got a major show on Real America's Voice, 10 o'clock every night.
00:10:06.040And then that's 10 p.m. Real America's Voice.
00:10:08.220I've also got a special going out on the podcast side today.
00:10:10.740myself dr james lindsey the truth about groomers we're going to drop that today and then also all
00:10:16.580next week uh charlie kirk is out so i will be filling in for charlie kirk on real america's
00:10:21.800voice from noon to two every day this week oh following the war room fantastic okay jack
00:10:28.780basovic uh spend the day with the family uh we'll check in with you later the great jack
00:10:33.460god bless everyone out there about geopolitics as anybody you see on thank you brother okay
00:10:38.920let's go to rome and ben harnwell ben we've been covering this and you've been all over this from
00:10:43.500the beginning we'll talk about dugan in a second but let's talk about the situation with ukraine
00:10:48.300clearly as jack bosovic said ratcheting up uh ratcheting up what's happened give us your
00:10:53.600assessment are we heading towards the guns of august is this a france ferdinand moment sir
00:10:58.560well steve you know what you and jack were saying just now is absolutely correct
00:11:02.640I would frame this assassination in the context that on Thursday of this week in Lviv, there were these peace talks that didn't go anywhere between Volodymyr Zelensky, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey, and Antonio Guterres, the secretary general of the UN.
00:11:22.720As I say, those talks didn't go anywhere, but the pressure there for Zelensky to sit down at the table with Putin and negotiate was there.
00:11:32.140Now, Zelensky, as we said a couple of days ago, Steve, feels himself empowered to turn those talks down because the money is continuing to come in, $750 million on Friday.
00:11:45.740I note, however, that not a single European Union country pledged new support for the month of July.
00:11:54.020So now America is back to shouldering the big weight.
00:11:57.520But, Steve, the context that I would say about this assassination attempt,
00:12:01.560Jack's absolutely right that this is going to lead to a tit-for-tat exchange,
00:12:06.120as these things always do when they become personal between two sides.
00:12:11.200And they will obviously, I think, become escalatory as well at the same sense.
00:12:16.100What I would say, Jack had mentioned these mystery explosions.
00:12:21.060You'll remember, Steve, about 10 days ago, Zelensky went off on one on his military commanders
00:12:26.480because no word from Kiev had come out over who was behind this.
00:12:31.360And someone was shooting their mouth off inside Zelensky's inner circle to the press,
00:12:35.940bragging, saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually, this is us doing it.
00:12:38.300No, 100% that Ukraine is behind these terroristic attacks on the Russian side.
00:12:52.200but let's let's call that the russian sphere of influence for the sake of the war steve my takeaway
00:12:58.420is this whoever is behind this assassination attempt does not want to sit does not want peace
00:13:05.400between russia and um and ukraine that's the point of this this is to keep that war going and and
00:13:12.940it's escalation look towards the escalation the escalation party here and remember the european
00:13:18.640governments right now it's a huge article in the guardian yesterday about how nobody not one
00:13:23.540european country has stepped up on time in the month of july to put up the money that they had
00:13:28.940committed to ukraine not one not one had done that okay not one had done that let's cut to the main
00:13:35.220stage for the pledge for us uh ben hang on for one second and cut to the main stage for the pledge
00:13:39.920good morning let's say the pledge together i pledge allegiance
00:13:45.580To the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which we stand, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
00:15:04.040Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
00:15:17.420O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?
00:15:38.580Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Pastor Hank Kooneman from the Lord of Host Church, Omaha, Nebraska.
00:15:46.500Okay. We're back here. This is the great awakening part of the Moment of Truth Summit here in Springfield, Missouri.
00:15:54.460I want to go. I'll tell you what, Ben, real quickly, I want to put up, you know, you and I, you were with me when we had the summit with Dugan to talk about his theories.
00:16:05.020Dugan is not, he's very anti-America as far as America goes, as far as the woke America and what is going on with NATO and being this aggressive.
00:16:16.100When you actually meet him and talk about it, it's not as virulently, you know, he's called an ultra-nationalist.
00:16:20.820He's not as anti-American as you actually would think.
00:16:24.020I had the chance to spend an entire day with him about 12, 14 hours a couple of years ago in Rome, set up by Ben Harnwell.
00:16:30.460He's the geopolitical theorist from back to the fourth political theory.
00:16:33.740And look, he's an ultra-nationalist, and he was very pro-CCP.
00:16:38.980The whole book, I think it was called The War for Eternity, outlined my discussion with him that Russia in no way can can partner or ally with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:16:50.920And this is what's happened. And I warned about this years and years ago, Ben, as you know.0.51
00:16:55.140So, Ben, we're going to bounce here. How do people get updates for you throughout the day on this on breaking developments?
00:17:02.140yeah it's uh it's simply my surname steve my profile is at carnwell the verified account
00:17:08.780not one of the imitators that are out there and i'll be there putting out the news as it comes in
00:17:13.440okay and ben's going to be on the show tomorrow morning we're going to be back on the regular
00:17:19.160schedule of the war room will be 10 o'clock live uh and ben will join us at the beginning of the
00:17:23.560show we'll walk through alexander dugan and there's really this escalation major escalation
00:17:27.600assassination attempt on dugan outside of moscow killed his daughter blew up his car uh the sbu right
00:17:34.100now is taking credit for this uh the ukrainian intelligence services so we'll have all the
00:17:38.740updates tomorrow ben thank you very much honor to have you on here thank you for changing your day
00:17:42.220to join us okay we'll have more about this for the night and during the next two hours if we go
00:17:50.120but on main stage just set what's happening we've got we've got uh the great awakening part of that
00:17:55.220a number of preachers will be up here there'll be music there'll be discussion about the great
00:17:59.220awakening going on in the country that's also leading to this political uh this political
00:18:03.960movement maga this populist movement i'm now joined by liz harrington the president's uh
00:18:10.620chief communication strategist also liz was the executive editor here at war room during some of
00:18:17.260the toughest days uh right after right after three november you were right in the middle of the fight
00:18:22.300You had just left the RNC, and you joined us for really what was this really in-the-trenches fight to really make sure that we didn't, we closed the deal on the victory that Trump had on 3 November.
00:18:36.400It's amazing to be here after all this time, and 3 November is alive and well.
00:18:42.700I mean, look around you, all these patriots from every single state represented and you run into all these people and they're all they're all still fighting.
00:32:40.800for the first time in the history of our nation,
00:32:44.500the united states of america has forgotten and does not know the name of their god
00:32:51.500the god of this nation is our heavenly father but the lord jesus christ his son is lord and savior
00:33:01.340over the united states of america and this nation was dedicated to his honor
00:33:07.100now notice what happens after there was war uh actually as they were choosing new gods notice
00:33:15.480the next thing that happens in in verse 8 war was in the gates notice when they were out choosing
00:33:21.760new gods they didn't know the name of their god all of a sudden war began to break out in their
00:33:26.640gates how many believe we've been in a spiritual battle over our nation how many believe that
00:33:31.620there's been war in the gates you say what do you mean well think about all the cultural battles
00:33:35.560that we're facing look at all the things that are trying to infiltrate our media and all the
00:33:42.380different things that we're having to fight against and it's because we forgot the name
00:33:48.120of our god people have chosen other gods god is a jealous god and he says i am the lord god
00:33:55.500and only i shall you worship and so god is taking us right now and getting our focus back
00:34:02.700showing us that he is the one true supreme god amen and so there was war in the gates now watch
00:34:10.400this was there a shield or a spear even seen in all of israel you say well what does that mean
00:34:16.860well think about it what does the shield do a shield protects defends you so in other words
00:34:23.880there was nobody that really wanted to arise with the shield to protect their nation protect the
00:34:29.260innocent defend come on their freedoms sounds like some folk today they don't even want to pick up a
00:34:34.660shield they'd rather believe the fake media and say oh well no they're telling us the truth well
00:34:41.160we know through the evidence that we've been lied to it's time to take up our shield but notice that
00:34:46.620they didn't just take up a shield they said was there anyone that was carrying a spear in other
00:34:51.020words is there anyone that was willing to fight for god and for their country now let's talk about
00:34:58.560for things that god did so as a result watch this in verse 7 it says something very significant and
00:35:06.280i want you to really pay attention to this because this is going to give you great hope for what god
00:35:10.440is doing and what the future will hold it says in verse 7 of judges 5 the inhabitants of the village
00:35:16.060they didn't fight they held back now watch this word that somehow pops off the pages of our
00:35:22.700scripture as our as we look at it it says until underline circle highlight the word until notice
00:35:30.320everything was getting off course war in the gates they forgot the name of their god they
00:35:36.240were getting off the main road and the main issues of what made them great what god blessed
00:35:41.420and then there's this word until in other words there's always an until moment that happens with
00:35:47.540god it may be dark it may seem like that evil prevails but i promise you we are in that until
00:35:55.640moment that god himself is injecting himself in america god is stepping in and he's looking for
00:36:03.560us to do what step up that's exactly what deborah did she began to arise the bible says as a mother
00:36:12.400in Israel. Now, here are four things, if you're taking notes, that God is looking in the process
00:36:19.220of doing. The first thing that we see in Judges 5, of how God began to get the country, the nation
00:36:26.620back, is He raised up judges. The Bible says that Deborah, Judges 4, was a judge. So you see in
00:36:36.840verse 7 of Judges 5 that I just read to you? That she arose as a mother. She was a judge.
00:36:42.460So what God is going to do in the United States of America is He's going to begin to see great
00:36:48.760victories. Things that we've been fighting for. Things that we've been believing for. Things that
00:36:53.580they ignored before in the courts. They're now going to have to acknowledge because God's hands
00:36:58.620on them. And there's going to come judges of the land, judges that are going to arise. The courts
00:37:06.740are going to begin to shift in this nation and there are going to be great victories that god
00:37:12.600is going to bring through the judges of the land now i want you to understand something there are
00:37:17.720three types of judges that the lord is going to use in the restoration of righteous judges
00:37:23.960number one god himself according to luke 18 is going to be the okay welcome back uh we're here
00:37:31.220at the moment of truth summit live in springfield missouri at the springfield convention center
00:37:37.620and uh you know there's a i don't know 1500 people here this morning they're all it's all
00:37:43.360invited the way the public gets us we're pushing this out on frank speech on the frank speech app
00:37:48.900of course real america's voice been so uh so uh such a great partner doing live shows here of war
00:37:55.340room both mornings our own calamity jane zirkle's been going around getting interviews with people
00:38:00.320and we're going to play clips of that we're also gonna have a lot of content what we're going to
00:38:04.360do we're so inspired by this all 50 states are going to be on the show in the next three four
00:38:09.420weeks we're going to get time during the probably during battleground it's amazing amazing work
00:38:14.860these people have done really not just inspired us but really the quality of work and i keep saying
00:38:20.180hey when you look at montana utah and alabama and you look at what's going on on these super trump
00:38:28.280states but you really look at what's going on with the elections you understand why the republican
00:38:33.120establishment controls things on states that are 80 or 90 percent macro it all becomes clear so
00:38:38.760we're gonna get to the bottom we're gonna try to get the montana folks on in the second hour
00:38:42.500so we're gonna have seth cashel dave clements our own joe allen is going to join us but now we've
00:38:46.760got a very special guest a very close colleague of mine in in the show uh emerald robinson the
00:38:52.780former white house correspondent for uh for newsmax and now has her own show that follows us
00:38:57.640on war room on frank speech so you've been here as the kind of the major correspondent for for
00:39:02.500lindale tv frank speech uh watching this and monitor give us your give us your thoughts
00:39:07.440well day one and i think day two which we're in now it's going to be very different than day one
00:39:12.780but as i was telling you just a moment ago what i think was really good about day one is that
00:39:18.160often the reporting on all these election the election brought out of different states
00:39:22.020It's here and there, and it's so specific, and sometimes it's overwhelming for people is what I hear from viewers and readers in my sub stack.
00:39:31.860What I think that Mike Lindell has managed to do that has been very successful, and I haven't seen anyone else really do yet,
00:39:37.320is put all of this information together in day one about the current state of elections, what happened to get us here.
00:39:44.120And it was, they did it in a digestible way that everyone could understand, no matter what your current knowledge of the electoral process is, you could understand where the problems were and are.
00:39:57.460I also think it was great that a representative from every state, from all 50 states, got up to talk about the status of the electoral process in their states, no matter what happened in 2020, who won, whether they leaned red, blue or purple.
00:40:14.120What the current process is and where there needs to be fixes or what works.
00:40:23.980It should have already been happening because it's the very heart of our democracy.
00:40:28.920But I've been very encouraged talking with people, too, about how many people are getting involved in learning and becoming part of their local process.
00:40:46.760Like I talked to a lady from New Hampshire, and I keep seeing a theme here.
00:40:52.880I talked to a lady from New Hampshire yesterday, and I didn't really know a ton about New Hampshire because it's not been one of those six states we've been hyper-focused on.0.97
00:41:01.480They definitely stole New Hampshire.0.85
00:41:03.460With the college kids going up on the day of.