Episode 2235: The Anti Modernist Oath; The Martyrdom Of Alex Jones
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Jack Basobiec says it s an oath against modernity, but really it s the anti-modernist oath. Why was it dropped after Vatican II? And why did Pope Pius X make it so important? Stephen K. Bannon explains why.
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed
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Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. Health officials are
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investigating more than 100 possible cases in the U.S. Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
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The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. Japan, where a bus driver contracted
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the virus. Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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We have to prepare for the worst always, because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Okay, welcome back. It is Tuesday, 18 October, in the year of our Lord, 2022. We're going to be
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followed here shortly by Alex Jones. Of course, only in the War Room can you get Elise Stefanik,
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Bishop Schneider, and Alex Jones on one show. Jack Basobiec is lighting me up here. Great Jack
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Basobiec, one of our major contributors and the partner with Charlie Kirk over at Turning
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Point USA. He's saying it's an oath against modernity, but really, it's the anti-modernist
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oath. Yes. I don't want to correct Jack Basobiec, but I'm going to correct Jack Basobiec because
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I thought it was the oath against modernity also. It's the anti-modernist oath. Tell us why you're
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one of the biggest fighters in the world for traditionalism. Why is this oath? What was it?
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Why was it so important? And why was it dropped right after Vatican II?
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So, the so-called anti-modernist oath was published by Pope Pius, the Holy Pope, Pius X in 1910,
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as an effective tool to fight against the infiltration of the so-called modernism in the life of the
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church in the end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th century, and the modernism was basically
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a heresy. Even worse, Pope Pius X called Ist was the sum of all heresies together. It means it was
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basically relativism saying that there is no truth, basically constant truth. Every time they will be
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changing the truth, we have no common truth. And we have to adapt ourselves to the changing world.
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This was the basic, one of the basic elements of the modernism and also a rationalism. So there is
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basically no supernatural revelation that we have, we can with our reason change the truth. We can
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determine our new meaning of the truth. And this, you see, this was a very dangerous infiltration in
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the life of the church. But here's the important thing for particularly our secular audience is that
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they saw downrange that if you started to incorporate this relativism into Catholicism and
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Christianity, but also in just a modern life, they saw downrange of Auschwitz. They saw downrange of
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World War II. They saw downrange of nuclear weapons and biological weapons. They said,
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the 20th century, if we don't stop it now, right, and stand firm, that this is where the world is going to go.
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Exactly. This was the consequence. You are right. But now I am explaining this phenomenon within the
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church. So therefore, Pope Pius X had gave these means to protect the faithful from the contagion of
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the spiritual poison, which the clergy. So priests, professors of theology, even to a lesser extent,
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some bishops. And to have this control to protect as a good father, as a good physician, he will protect
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his children, his patients from poison. And so he gave this oath very precisely, very, in this
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oath were listed up, the main errors of the modernism, very concretely. And then they had to make the oath
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on the Holy Scripture, on the Bible. And so every candidate before priestly ordination, before
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episcopal ordination, before receiving the cardinal aid, and every professor of theology had to make this oath.
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This oath was valid until 67, two years after the Second Vatican Council. And then after the council
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was, started a real revolution inside the church, within the church, spreading heresies in the, in the height
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of the spreading of heresies. After the council, exactly in this moment, Paul VI abolished the anti-modernist
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oath. It was the, it was the contrary of which had to be made. It was a great irresponsibility, how you can
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take away a protection, when there is a spreading of poison. And saying, he said, our time is not more so much
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affected by those elements, which were in the time of Pius X. But it was in this way, Paul VI simply, a contradicted reality.
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Even so, he himself had to acknowledge, several years later, that in the church entered the smoke of Satan.
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He spoke himself. And he said, after, we were, we dreamt that with the council will come a springtime of the church,
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but instead of the springtime, there came winter, there came confusion and darkness.
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I quoted literally, Paul VI. And nevertheless, he did so, a contradictory action to abolish such an effective means to protect faithful and a church from despise him.
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So, you have the Vatican Council that lets in the smoke of Satan, according to the Pope.
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67, they renounced the oath, the anti-modernist oath. 69, they throw out the traditional mass and bring in whatever this, the new order mass.
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And it gets us down to, if you look at it, I want to talk about the Amazon, I think the Synod is it called,
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and what the Pope's trip to Canada, and what happened there. How did this, for particularly practicing Catholics,
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not even if you have to be from the traditionalist wing of the church, but how are people supposed to view
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what the Pope is doing in this outreach to things like going on in the Amazon and what happened in Canada?
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The Amazon Synod, which was celebrated three years ago, tried to unite all the elements of the pagan tribes
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and peoples from the traditional Amazonic countries there, Brazil and others.
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And, but it is impossible, as the Holy Scripture says, you cannot reconcile darkness and light.
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You cannot reconcile Christ and barely all, I mean the devil.
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And the Holy Scripture says that the gods of the pagans are demons.
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And this is Holy Scripture, this is the word of the Holy Spirit.
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And this, and one of the most spread and known idols, pagan idols or deities, was so-called Pacha Mama cult,
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in the indigenous language of the South American Indians.
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And this is a veneration of a female deity, of fertility of the earth, or Mother Earth, also called.
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And they produced a statue, a symbol of this woman, a naked woman, and brought this to the Vatican.
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And in the presence of the Pope, they, a group of people, even amongst them, a priest, a religious sister, and lay people,
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and also a pagan representative of a tribe, made a worship.
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They bow down to the earth in front of this statue of Pacha Mama.
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And then this statue was even worse, was brought in a procession inside the Basilic of St. Peter,
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And then exposed in a church close to the Vatican,
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the Vatican continuously displayed several copies of this idol Pacha Mama.
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And this was the hate of, to my opinion, of betrayal of the Gospel.
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So how are Catholics, don't even have to be from the traditional wing,
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how are everyday Catholics supposed to take what's coming out of the Vatican seriously?
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We don't have time for it, but the Canada situation was actually worse than that.
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How are people supposed to take whatever the Vatican comes out with and talks about doctrine now,
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The Pope, or the Church, speaks so-called infallibly, ex cathedra, only rarely.
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Simply confirming what God revealed to protecting against heresies.
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All other pronouncements and affirmations of a Pope can be fallible,
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simply to accept every affirmation and pronouncements of a Pope.
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We have to look if this is really corresponding to the revealed truth,
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if this is really corresponding to what all his predecessors 2,000 years were teaching,
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unchangingly, constantly, perennial, as we say.
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If there is an evident contrast, a Catholic cannot accept such a concrete pronouncement of a Pope or his action.
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In this case, even a lay people, a Catholic, the more a bishop and a priest, a priest and a bishop,
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I have the duty to admonish or to appeal the Pope reverently, respectfully, to correct these errors.
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And then, thanks be to God, there was a courageous young man, Alexander Chuguel, who came from Austria as a good knight of Christ.
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He took these idols from the church and thrown in the Tiber.
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I mean, this will go down in history as a heroic act and an honor for the Catholic laity.
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And he was just a lay, he was just a young person.
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And then the response of the Catholics to such horrible phenomenons should be also atonement and reparation, prayers of reparation.
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How do people that want to find out more about this, how do people, particularly Catholics,
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that want to find out more about particularly your fight against the modern syllabus of errors,
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where do they go and how do people find out more about you?
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I published a new book in the Sophia Press with the title, The Catholic Mass,
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There are three steps to restore the centrality of God in the Liturgy.
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All our problems within the life of the church, in our personal life, and in the life of the world
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is that we had driven out Christ and God from the center,
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and we put God to the marginalized God in our life, in the life of the world, in the life of the church.
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this is the problem. We have, again, to bring God and Christ at the center. And this is the topic
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of my new book, The Catholic Mass, exemplified on the Mass, because the Holy Mass is the highest
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expression of prayer in the Church, the most solemn, the most rich, the most existential,
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I would say, from our life. And therefore, this form of expression of our prayer should express clearly
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the centrality of God. And therefore, I gave this 12 steps how to restore the centrality of God in our
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prayer life, in our Holy Mass, how we worship. And this book is available in Sophia Press and this
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evening. It will be officially presented, this book, The Catholic Mass, in Arlington, in Crystal City,
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in Arlington, today at 6.30 p.m., with the participation of a very famous scholar of liturgy,
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Dr. Peter Kwasniewski, and also with Diane Montagna. This is a possibility to know more about my new book.
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Perfect. We'll make sure we get that up. Sophia Press did such a great job. Bishop, thank you very much
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for joining us here. We look forward to having you back. We had you last time by Skype, but we love
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having you in the studio. Thank you very much, Honor. Be back in the warm in a moment.
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more depth, and particularly for the Christians and the Catholics out there, to get to enjoy
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the thinking of really a true warrior. And he is a, just like Cardinal Zandt, these are true warriors
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that put it all on the line. I want to go very honored to have Alex Jones. Alex, yesterday,
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the Atlantic Magazine had a massive story, big black and white picture of you. I think it was
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called The Martyrdom of Alex Jones. And in that, they try to take the other side of the argument
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about why you're guilty of all this and why you're terrible, although at the same time saying you're a
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major, if not the major, voice on the populist nationalist right. Walk us through that piece.
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How did it strike you? Well, Steve, thanks for having me on to break this down. This is very,
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very important. It's a lot bigger than Alex Jones. If you go to Twitter or you go to Instagram or you
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go to CNN or MSNBC or anywhere in the corporate controlled establishment press, all they're talking
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about is how this new model of defaulting conservatives and defamation cases and then having show trials
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will shut down Stephen Bannon, will shut down Stephen Crowder, will shut down Tucker Carlson.
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They're literally everywhere. Kanye West came out and said that George Floyd probably died of
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fentanyl, not the police officer. He was sad that Floyd died, but he didn't think the cop did it on
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purpose. Now the lawyers, the Democrat Party connected lawyers that are George Floyd's lawyers are
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saying they're planning to sue Kanye West. And they said, using the Alex Jones example. So that's
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basically what they're defending in this article. Then they invert reality. They claim because
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Clarence Thomas has said the media slandered him and that they might weaken New York times versus
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Sullivan. And because a few, uh, old line conservatives have supported that, that we as
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populist, uh, have, have also been supporting, uh, censorship and, and controls of this nature
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when we've done the opposite. Uh, the, the tip of the spear being yourself and many other
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populists like, you know, Jack Posobiec and countless others have been demonized and attacked
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and, and, and censored. And so have I in the last five years, uh, since, since, you know,
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Trump got in office now six plus years. And so we've been the victims of organized corporate
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cartels getting together and deciding to censor us, not because we lied, but because we're effective
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in mobilizing a populist movement back in August of 2018, uh, Tim Cook of Apple, the CEO there
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went on national TV and said, I met this weekend via video conference with the head of Google,
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uh, with the, uh, heads of the other four big tech companies, Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook,
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and that they made the decision to curate, like it's a museum piece to disappear. Alex Jones,
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uh, out of the museum of ideas and into oblivion into the back warehouse. And so they expanded from
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there using me as the test case at a big wall street journal article, uh, actually in 2017,
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uh, that was a subscription piece about 30 pages long, but you can find it by searching Alex Jones,
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hold onto your tinfoil hat. You're about to be taken off air because Gizmodo wrote about it and then
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took some excerpts out, but the rest of it was behind a paywall. And they described in there,
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uh, a NATO meeting, uh, over in Germany with the heads of the big tech companies and the UN.
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And they said, we're going to censor WikiLeaks and the left's going to support that.
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And then we're going to censor Alex Jones and the right's going to support that.
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And once they've done that, all the rest of the dominoes, uh, will fall. And so that's some
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of the background, some of the very important history of, of what they did. And then since then,
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we've seen the president censored president Trump. We've seen countless others literally
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disappeared, uh, off of the mainline internet, uh, as, as we know it. And so they try to claim
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that conservative leadership's being hypocrites and that they want to use libel law to take
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liberals off the air and that liberals want to be fair and take everybody off the air. But that's
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not true. Countless cases where Maddow has been sued and other left is telling bald faced lies.
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That's been thrown up by courts saying they have their free speech. It's just that I don't have my free
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speech. You don't have your free speech. And so they're really desperate, uh, that the general
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public, whether they be conservative or liberal, really have a populist sense of how free speech
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is important for everybody, whether it be an unsavory group like the KKK or the new black
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Panther party. If they lose their rights, we all lose them. And the reason they're trying to censor
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us is again, because we're effective. So this piece is very, um, schizophrenic, very paradoxical.
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But when you read between the lines, they're telling you what they've done, where they're
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going to be able to stay on air. They'll still have the first amendment, but you'll have the
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Alex Jones exception for all populist and conservatives. Here's the thing we're, we're
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heading up and we had at least Stefanik on earlier. We're going to the 32 point shift in independent
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women in 30 days, 40 days to Republicans. We've got this huge surge as they you've been in these court
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cases and they've, and they've tried to tie you up. We've got Tony Lyons coming on a minute with the
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Bobby Kennedy book, but the new movie on the book, uh, which sold over a million copies, your books on
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fire. Your show is probably more relevant now than it's ever been with all the suppression.
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What have they gained from the suppression? Hasn't it shown in one level, whether it's Bobby Kennedy
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about the Fauci book, it's Alex Jones hasn't shown that. And you just look at the numbers in this,
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in the run up to the midterms where they've had, they had all the big platforms. They had the New
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York times, the Washington post wall street journal. They had MSNBC, you know, all the big
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news and they had all the social media oligarchs. What does it tell us about, uh, truth and really
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getting truth and information out to the American people, Alex? Well, absolutely. That's the paradox
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here is that you have a Streisand effect. So every time they try to suppress somebody and destroy them,
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the public goes and seeks them out. And then they find our anti-globalist pro-America pro-populist
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pro-unity, anti-racism, uh, pro-God message. And it's very popular when women or Hispanics or
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blacks or anybody else living under the crime waves, living under the inflation, living under
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the threat of world war three, living under collapsed borders, living under the threat of
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losing their jobs. They've already lost their jobs. They know they're being lied to when Biden eats an
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ice cream and arrogantly says, you know, the economy's strong as hell. They know that's a fraud.
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And people instinctively know that when you've got a corrupt out of control system and things aren't
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going well, but the people being demonized are usually the good guys or at least better or who
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is in power. And so, yes, there's been a massive Streisand effect to infowars.com. Look at how the
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great reset in the war for the world, thanks to your great audience and you, Steve, and the great Tony
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Lyons has been off and on number one, uh, the last two months. Look at how for six months, uh, you know,
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the real Anthony Fauci was number one, despite the tempest censorship. Now they've got this great
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movie that I can't wait to see. I saw you yesterday, uh, doing a breakdown. You've had a
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chance to see it. I'm a little bit envious. I mean, I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to promote it.
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Uh, and so this is a real fight and, and I'm energized by it and I'm buoyed by it. And I'm
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quite frankly honored by the fact that the most corrupt evil people in the world is Tulsi Gabbard
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said a power mad authoritarian world war three cult, uh, of, of, of fascistic control freak
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leftist hates me, uh, amongst only a few other people as much Donald Trump, Steve Bannon. Uh,
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there's not many in that elite club. And quite frankly, that in my life is my greatest accomplishment.
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I wear their hatred as a badge of honor because I'm trying to live up to my forebears and my
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ancestors and trying to build a future for my children. If everybody else's children in this
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collective thing, we call planet earth. And of course, in a microcosm here in America.
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So absolutely. They don't understand that they try to mind trick us with a Jedi mind trick
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that, Oh, it's over. You're discredited. You're canceled. Now go away. But we don't go away.
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Okay. Well now we're going to do a billion dollar fine. It doesn't matter. I'll work for free.
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I'm not going away. And so they get more and more enraged. And that's why it's so dangerous though.
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We need to realize, yes, we're winning intellectually, culturally and spiritually starting to turn the tide,
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but they're more desperate than ever. That's why they had a London guardian article.
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This week or on actually last Friday saying it's time to just arrest Alex Jones. It's time to just
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put these people in jail. And we see that chant everywhere, arrest Trump, arrest Bannon, arrest
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Jones. And we can see what's happening to you. You're even more in the crosshairs than I am,
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which I don't envy the position you're in, but I understand the fact that it's a position of honor,
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but listeners and viewers need to understand this isn't a game. It's not like a Netflix entertainment
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show. This is a literal 2.0 war for not just America, but the world. That's why my book's titled
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You've got to go to Amazon. This book, you won't put it down. Alex, we've got a couple of minutes.
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By the way, I pinned the Atlantic piece. Everybody in the audience, one, Captain Bannon and Grace,
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everybody, get it down to the chat rooms. You've got to read this Atlantic piece on Alex Jones.
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Alex, give me two minutes. You've warned us before. The numbers are all coming our way.
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Everybody's volunteering. We're hitting on all cylinders. They're in panic mode right now.
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They're throwing their congressmen under the bus because they don't have money.
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What should we worry about, sir, between now and 8 November? From Alex Jones.
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Massive escalation with a conflict in Russia instead of a peace deal. More cyber attacks.
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I would look for them to provoke a terror, actually stage some type of a terror attack,
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perhaps mass shooting. I mean, I would look for them because, as you said a few weeks ago,
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they hadn't figured out they were losing. Now they know. Total landslide against them.
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Election fraud isn't enough to get them over the top because they're using mail-in ballots
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that use the names of dead people or folks that moved out of state.
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And so they've got a cap on how much fraud they can engage in.
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So with 21 days out, they are in full, abject panic mode.
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And so everybody should be watching what's happening.
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If there's a disaster or a tragic event, go there with your cell phone.
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And just know, this is the most critical 21 days since what we saw at Valley Forge or at Trenton.
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I mean, I would say Trenton's when we finally started turning the tide morale-wise,
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since what happened with George Washington crossing that frozen lake,
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and many of his men freezing to death to go take on the Hessians in the dead of night,
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The book is The Great Reset and The War for the World, and we're in the middle of it now.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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You know, I had Stefanik Schneider and Bishop Schneider and Alex Jones in a row.
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Let's talk about another guy that's had the pressure put on him.
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They're trying to put MyPillow into bankruptcy, just so you understand that.
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Because they hate what he's done for election integrity.
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I think the thing they hate the most is the network of Christian centers that he's done
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The other day on Morning Joe, you heard when it was Nicole Wallace talking about she's spitting
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You go right to what we call the War Room Square.
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I think I could follow Alex Jones and Bishop Schneider and Elise Stefanik.
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By the way, Matthew Tierman was going to be here to give us an update in Brazil.
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They had a debate the other night that was absolutely classic.
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And if you don't think Bolsonaro is going to be the next president of Brazil, you're just
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And Lula is this icon of the transnational criminal progressive left, right?
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The non-rule of law team personified by the Chinese Communist Party, who Lula is a partner
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Also, new developments with the Swedish Democrats.
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As the populist nationalist revolution goes global.
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And of course, in three weeks, we've got more numbers to break down.
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We understand money is tight and money is about to get a lot tighter.
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OK, there's a piece up yesterday we put up on Getter that showed that $2.1 trillion
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wiped out of 401k plans because of the Biden regime's management of this economy, which has
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There's no physical property in the world that made these crises come up.
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This is all created by a radical regime with really following and pursuing ridiculous policies.
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Liz Truss today apologized deeply for her ridiculous tax cuts.
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You've got to do things energy, but you've got to go after these budgets and start looking
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If you can't finance it, you can not just give these tax cuts and hope they're going to kick
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You have to look at what you've got to finance.
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Listen, in this country, everybody's got to get focused on this because after we win
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on November 8th, then we've got to address this financial crisis because I got to tell
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you, it's going to be an orgy of spending in this in this lame duck you watch.
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It's going to be something that people have never seen before.
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I want to briefly talk about before we go to this amazing film.
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I want to bring you guys back because I think tonight you launch Tony, give me give me a
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minute on Alex Jones on that book, because it is an incredible book.
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Like you said, you know, it was the bestselling book in America for its first week was kept
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So, you know, it was the same kind of playbook that when there's a story that the mainstream
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media disagrees with, they do everything they can to silence it.
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So people should read The Great Reset and think about the issues that are involved, the globalists
00:34:31.720
And, you know, many of the things that Alex Jones says are so important to consider, whether
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you agree with them or not, you have to consider them.
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You know, so this is a serious book written, you know, with a lot of important ideas in it.
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You can go to SkyhorsePublishing.com and get it there as well.
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By the way, I'm also doing an event tonight called Against the Great Reset, the Michael
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I'm over at the Kirby Center of Hillsdale College with a bunch of other prominent people
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If you heard Bishop Snyder talking about globalism, you know, being against globalism.
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If you, Alex Jones's book, and that's why you've got to read this Atlantic piece about
00:35:21.620
They're trying to shut him down for a reason, okay?
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If he was not effective, if he didn't know what he was talking about, they wouldn't spend
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That's why the Atlantic Magazine's got this whole piece about the martyrdom of Alex Jones
00:35:36.780
Tony, you've also, you've had the Bobby Kennedy Jr. book where we get to the film.
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You've got Alex Jones now, Dr. Malone, The Great Dr. Malone.
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Because I think the title is The Lies the Government Told Me, and I've had a chance to
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It's going to be, you know, he's one of the most beloved figures of contributors that
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come on to The War Room, but this book is going to be a blockbuster.
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It's a fantastic analysis of what's happened, you know, written by somebody who's right
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at the forefront of the scientific debate, of the debate that should have been taking
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He's coming out swinging, and he's going to tell the American people what really happened
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It's a fascinating book and a really important historical record of this period.
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Yeah, this is coming from a guy who was one of the inventors of this entire, the predicate
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I want to go, our audience remembers, Bobby, we had this, I think it was a two-hour interview.
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The book was just a blockbuster, and it was a blockbuster for our audience.
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Every person that bought it, and when I met him at events, et cetera, said, hey, thank
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And it really changed their entire perspective on everything, not just Anthony Fauci, but
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You're going to be able to access it for the next 10 days, I think, starting tonight.
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Then I want to bring in, to join Tony, the director, the filmmaker, Jeff Hayes.
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This book is a product of my own struggle to understand how the idealistic institutions
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our country built to safeguard both public health and democracy suddenly turned against
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our citizens and our values with such violence.
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I am a lifelong Democrat whose family has had 80 years of deep engagement with America's
00:37:48.360
public health bureaucracy and long friendships with key federal regulators, including Anthony
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Members of my family wrote many of the statutes under which these men governed.
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They nurtured the growth of equitable and effective public health policies and defended that
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regulatory bulwark against ferocious attacks funded by industry.
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I built my own alliances with these individuals and their agencies during my years of environmental
00:38:29.000
But I also watched how the industry, supposedly being regulated, used its indentured
00:38:36.260
servants on Capitol Hill and its financial clout to systematically hollow out those agencies
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beginning in the 1980s, disabling their regulatory function and transforming them into sock puppets
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for the very industry Congress charged them with regulating.
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I explore the carefully planned militarization and monetization of medicine that has left American
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I chronicle the troubling role of the big tech robber barons, the military and industrial
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agencies, their deep historical alliance with big pharma and the public health agencies.
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The disturbing story that unfolds here has never been told, and many in power have worked
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The militarization and monetization of the pharmaceutical industry.
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It's truly an epic about the real Anthony Fauci off the book by Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:39:55.540
So, Jeff, this is – you had a film in Toronto, one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world.
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You've got films – I think you've submitted to Sundance.
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This film premieres at the New York Film Festival next week.
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Is this going to be the main – this is the main draw at the New York Film Festival?
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What film – no, seriously, what film festival are we going to so that – because this used
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to be a cause – correct me, a few years ago, this used to be the big – one of the
00:40:20.460
biggest causes of the liberals and progressives was big pharma.
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So, what film festival are we going to, brother?
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Yeah, and as you know, there's no film festival that will touch us.
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I did a series on the war on drugs that told a similar story about Harry Anslinger from
00:40:38.460
the 20s who took over the Bureau of Narcotics and built it into a powerhouse, just another
00:40:47.260
And, of course, I sold that series to Jeffrey Katzenberg.
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That's a story they were willing to let me tell.
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This one, no one would touch with a 10-foot pole.
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It opened today for free online, and to heck with them.
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I want everybody right now, give us where people can go to see this film because, folks,
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this is important in the nation's history because investigations and hearings are going
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to start probably no later than February, maybe March with the new Congress, on this
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And this book is going to be Exhibit 1 for that investigation, and this movie will be Exhibit
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So, where do people go right now, Jeff, to go see this film?
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And, like I said, for the next 10 days, it's free.
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We may have to play some cat and mouse and move it around.
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We've already been blacklisted by eight different ISPs, but we're getting it out there.
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People, decisions are being made on bad information, and we need people not to see the film, but
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also to share it and to get it to people that are, you know, in their local public health
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I want everybody in this audience, it's totally free.
00:42:17.800
You're going to be, even folks that read the book, you're going to be aghast.
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And for those that haven't read the book, you're going to be dumbstruck by what you're about
00:42:27.020
And remember, Fauci and Big Farmer have not sued Bobby Kennedy.
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They haven't said anything's a lie, anything defamed them, right?
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One more time before we go to break, Jeff, where do people go right now to see this film free?
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I want all the boardroom posse to download this thing.
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We've got some things to tee up for the afternoon show.
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And we're going to return with filmmaker Jeff Hayes and the publisher, the heroic publisher,
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The platform for independent thought has arrived
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It's time to say what you want, the way you want
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Okay, this Fauci thing speaks to much bigger issues
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That we've got to not just get to the bottom of
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This film I think will even give you a deeper understanding
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From the time that you talked to Bobby Kennedy Jr.
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And then the publishing and selling over a million copies