Episode 2242： Michael Flynn And The Fight To Saving America
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Coronavirus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. Who's to blame? And why is the government funding research into a new strain of the virus? The War Room's Steve Kamb is joined by Boris Epstein and Miranda Devine to find out.
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed
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around the world. You don't want to frighten the American public. France and South Korea
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have also got evacuation plans. But you need to prepare for and assume.
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Probably warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
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That this is going to be a real serious problem. France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore,
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Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. Health officials are investigating more than 100
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possible cases in the US. Germany, a man has contracted the virus. The epidemic is a demon,
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and we cannot let this demon hide. Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. Coronavirus has
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killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. We have to prepare for the worst
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always. Because if you don't, and the worst happens. War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host,
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Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, we've got a lot of politics and economics to get to today. It's
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Thursday, 20 October in the year of our Lord 2022. This is the evening or afternoon edition
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of the War Room. We've got Boris Epstein up later, Miranda Devine. We're trying to track her down for
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the New York Post. It's the second year anniversary of the 51 intelligence officers that signed that
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letter that was in the New York Times saying that the laptop from hell was Russian disinformation.
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We're getting to that. Dr. Seb Gorka is going to join us. Huge development today as we covered last
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night on the eve of it at a CDC. Another vote today to make the vaccine a permanent part of the vaccine
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package. Steve Kirsch, Dr. Peter McCullough join us. But first, we're going to go to Heather McMullen,
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or Heather Mullins, Real America's Voice. We're in Boston, outside this lab that is doing a gain of
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function experiments unbeknownst. And we had Senator Marshall from Kansas saying that this was
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more dangerous than practicing with nuclear weapons. Heather, where are you? Put us in the
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room there and tell us why you're there. Thanks, Steve. Thanks for having me and shedding light on
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this because this is a big, big deal. I mean, we're not in the middle of nowhere. We're in the middle
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of a well-populated city. And we saw what can happen when viruses leak out of labs. Right
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behind me, I had a better shot earlier, but security had made me move. Right behind me is the National
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Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratory, which is part of Boston University. And basically, what they're
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being accused of right now is gain of function research that basically, it took the spike protein
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from Omicron variant, right? This was the less transmissible, or no, more transmissible,
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but milder variant of the coronavirus. Well, they took that spike protein, which makes it more
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transmissible. And they attached to an older version of the virus, one that was more deadly,
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and then exposed it to mice and found 80% of the mice that were exposed died. So this is what people
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are concerned about is the fact that they're adding things to deadly viruses that make them more
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What is, how could they, given the problems we had in Wuhan from the lab near a major population
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center, how did they sign off on the fact that to do it there at the lab, these gain of functions
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and all, they're saying that, hey, this may not be as lethal as the first one. It's still,
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it's still, you know, it's still incredibly lethal, right? Why, why, who signed off on it in
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Boston University? And why does it seem all kind of shuffling now the papers to avoid responsibility?
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Yeah, that's a great question, Steve. So the NIH has officially come out and said that it did not
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review this work before it went forward. They did say that they are investigating to see if any grant
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money was used and things of that nature. I've heard mixed reports, Boston University saying that no
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government money was used to fund this research directly. But that begs the question, so then who
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is funding this research? And I decided to do a little digging. And if you go back to March of 2020,
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on the BU website, and on Harvard website, right, this sort of like international coronavirus research
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effort took place. And at the time, they say only six coronavirus deaths had occurred in the United
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States. Now, what this effort did is it joined forces with Chinese research teams, right? And it
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agreed to accept $115 million from a Chinese company called Evergrande Group. Now, I did some background
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information and the company's CEO is a member of the Chinese Communist Party and has been since 2013.
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So this $115 million back in March of 2020 was said to go to fund this coronavirus research over a
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period of five years. So it is possible that the very gain of function research Boston University
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is being accused of right now was funded by the Chinese Communist Party.
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Remember, the gain of function was considered so dangerous that the Obama administration at the
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National Security Council level shut it down in places like the University of North Carolina,
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University of Galveston at Texas, University of Maryland, other places because they thought it was not,
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this thing was out of control. It was only after Fauci, and we still haven't gotten the full story,
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how Fauci got the science and technology group at the National Security Council in December of 17,
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right, in December of 17, when there wasn't a head of HHS, the first head of HHS had left,
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that he got it re-approved to actually do these other gain of functions that ended up in Wuhan.
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So we're going to get to the bottom. Heather, hang on for a second. I want to go to,
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that's one side, that's the gain of function experimentation going on for other variants of
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the virus. And remember, gain of function is basically the weaponization of these viruses.
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But today, the CDC on the vaccine side, right, on the supposedly cure side, massive development
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today against Steve Kirsch and Dr. Peter McCullough. Dr. McCullough, can you, because you've been out
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front about these vaccines now? No, no. He didn't, we didn't get McCullough? Okay, fine. Let me go to
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Steve Kirsch. Steve, walk me through what happened today and why is this so important?
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So today, as we predicted what happened, the ACIP committee, which is the outside committee for the
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CDC, recommended to the CDC that the mRNA vaccines be put on the childhood vaccination schedule. And
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as far as we know, there are no examples where the ACIP committee has recommended this and the CDC
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has then refused to add it. So it's, it is almost a done deal. And once the CDC adds these vaccines
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to the childhood vaccine schedule, what happens is it becomes mandated, it becomes mandatory in many
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states in the United States, which adopt the childhood, the entire CDC childhood vaccine schedule
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in order to attend public schools. So effectively, what they've done with their vote is to require kids
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get these vaccines in certain states in order to attend public schools. That's, that's the net
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impact. But the, the bigger impact is that it provides liability protection now until the end of
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time for these vaccine manufacturers. So now they can ship an adult vaccine and actually have it approved
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and escape all liability. And so that's the, that is the bigger, that was the grand prize to go get
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permanent liability protection. Hang on one second. I want, I want to, I want to get to that, but I want
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to get a couple more building blocks. I think we got Dr. McCullough up now. Dr. McCullough, here's
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what I understand. With the research that, you know, Naomi Wolf's pulling together of the Pfizer
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document stuff you're doing, Steve Kirsch has been doing an analysis. We're seeing this now with many,
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many different groups questioning, you know, the whole issue of the vaccine, particularly for young
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people. How does it go from the kind of that questioning we're seeing? I think it's England
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and Denmark countries in Europe, just back off this thing, people that were mandatory. How do you go
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from there? And really people starting to question it, I think on the booster, very low uptake by
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parents, unless it's forced. How do you go from there to actually put it into the program of kind of the
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permanent vaccines that the set of vaccines that kids have to get to get to public schools? How do you
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make that leap, given the controversy on this vaccine, sir? The heterogeneity of various responses
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and opinions on pediatric and young person vaccination is really striking, Steve. You know,
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in the country of Denmark, they've struck it down completely. The state of Florida is not going to go
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along with this. Kari Lake, gubernatorial candidate in Arizona, not going to go along with it. Scott
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Jensen in Minnesota, it's not going to happen. You saw Stefan Bainzel, CEO of Moderna, just came out and
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said, you know, vaccines don't make sense in young people. So this heterogeneity should be a sign
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that those on this regulatory committee, these people who voted unanimously, they must be part of
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some type of government, big pharma regulatory capture. So let me ask you, all the other
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vaccines that are on here, either some are controversial, they have years and years of
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clinical trials and testing. Am I correct in that? They do. You know, they say have years and years of
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experience. The MMR, the polio vaccines, what parents and listeners need to know is this COVID-19
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vaccine is nowhere near as safe as our standard vaccines. It's still emergency use authorized.
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Most children have been through COVID-19. So the vaccines are not medically necessary. They're not
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clinically indicated and they're not safe. The FDA says they cause heart damage, myocarditis
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and cause blood clots. No parent would tolerate that in a single case. So I think this should be off
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the table. Parents are going to have to do a la carte when it comes to this vaccine schedule. And then
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they're really going to have to fight in the schools if they mandate them.
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Well, I think it's going to go to a fight. Steve Kerr said it. I think it's going to be at the state
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level. Let me go back to Kerr. Just stay right there, Dr. McCullough. Steve, so walk people through
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this liability issue because it kind of doesn't make sense. You don't really see the logic of doing
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this given that Europe's kind of backing off this. You've had tons of questions here. You clearly could
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do a lot more years. You could start really doing clinical tests and really test this. In fact, I think they
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went down to five-year-olds on this approval. The license is only to 16. Tell us about the
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liability. Why would this even come up? Well, the grand prize has always been the liability
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protection. The vaccine manufacturers have this under EUA. But once the drug is approved by the FDA,
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the liability protection goes away unless the drug is on the childhood vaccination schedule.
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So this is why there's been such a huge push to get this approved and tested under EUA in children.
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And the results are so bad, Steve. You know, there was a study in Thailand, which I'm sure Peter will
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give you all the details of, but it showed that 30% of the kids that were tested then were looked at
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after vaccination. 30% developed, almost 30%. It was 29.3, I think, developed cardiac issues that were
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measurable after they got the vaccine. 30%. Okay. So, you know, almost one out of three. Now, contrast that
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with three out of a million kids might die if they got infected with COVID. And it's probably at least
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an order of magnitude less than that because, you know, we have very easy early treatments. Just
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rinsing your nose twice a day with a saline rinse will reduce your chance of hospitalization by a factor
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of eight. So, we're looking at less than one in a million chance that your child would die from COVID
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versus a 30% chance that they are going to get some kind of cardiac issues, some sort of cardiac damage
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due to these vaccines. This is not even a close call here. Nobody in their right mind looking at the
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data. Hang on a second. We'll go back to McCullough. Dr. McCullough, with that, here's what's so shocking.
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The two days they had the vote yesterday and today. Unanimous votes. But did you see any real
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debate? I mean, nobody abstained. Nobody voted against it. Was there any heated debate bringing
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up things like the Thailand study that Steve Kirsch or talked about Denmark or UK or other countries
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backing off this altogether? Did you see any of that? No, there's a complete oblivion to safety.
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And the great concern here is that Thailand study by Mansoogian and colleagues, over half the kids
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who develop heart damage, they don't feel it initially, Steve. They're completely asymptomatic
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and then they actually can have the first presentation being sudden death. I think American
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families are going to be horrified if this is widely used among children and the future risk of
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sudden death. As a cardiologist, I can tell you it's unacceptable. There is no justification for
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using these in children. No one should sustain heart damage as part of a pediatric vaccine schedule
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program. Okay. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're in turn. We've got Steve
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Kirsch. We have, by the way, who was pro-vaccine at one time before he looked at the data. And now he's
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one of the leaders of this, of really get to the bottom of the truth, the bottom of the truth
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about vaccines. Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the leaders of this movement. Also Heather Mullins
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is at Boston University about this gain of function experiments going on. Now nobody knows who funded
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it, what's going on. They're all running for the bushes. Also Dr. Seb Gorka is going to join us
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on Miranda Devine. Hopefully we track down Miranda off of her plane on the second anniversary of the
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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War Room Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Okay, welcome back. Dr. McCullough, this is, you know, they accused the Trump movement or the
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anti-vaccine, the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. guys or the MAGA of destroying the institutions and being
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anti-institutionalist. But isn't this how people lose faith in this, that it doesn't look like,
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I mean, when you've had Germany and Denmark and the UK and certain elements, Austria, I think people
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that were so gung-ho on almost mandatory VACs, now you see them all kind of backing off. And here
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you've got children, right, a most precious asset and probably the one that's the math on this thing
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is the most questionable. And you have a panel of experts and it's 15 to nothing, no abstentions,
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no no's. And it doesn't look like there was a heated debate or even went through a ton of analysis.
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It sure is. People in my circles are talking. You know, it's a one-way street. People are moving
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from being ambivalent over towards the health freedom movement, the more conservative movement
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that's protecting medical rights and civil rights. Overall, there is no mention of a healthy debate on
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the risks and benefits. There's no documentation about what's going on outside of the United States.
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And you're right, countries are dropping the vaccines, Israel, UK, and others. They've seen
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enough in terms of adverse safety effects. I think what's going to happen is so many parents
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and even states overall are going to move away from the CDC vaccine schedule and say, listen,
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Let's go to that. Steve Kirsch, you've really become to the forefront of this because you've
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crunched the numbers. I mean, you're a data guy. You've seen this and you've commented before about
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how the other nations that were really pro are starting to back off this now until more research
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is done, more clinical trials. How is this going to play to the states? Because the states are all
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different about how they take these recommendations. Dr. Latipo, I think we're going to get him on
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tomorrow morning. The Surgeon General of Florida said they're not going to do it in Florida.
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So how is this going to play out? And given the math that you've looked at, is McCullough right?
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Or parents are just going to sit there and go, hey, we've got to stop the whole thing because I'm
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questioning all of it now? Well, you know, they should. In Israel, the percentage of people who are
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now fully vaccinated is only 2.4%. They used to be one of the most vaccinated places on earth.
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And now only 2.4% of the people in Israel are considered to be fully vaccinated. So the Israeli
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people who normally just do what the government says without question are in fact rebelling and
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they're voting with their arms. They're not having themselves jabbed and they're not following
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the government recommendations anymore. They are not fooled. And so that creates an interesting data
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point because I'm sure the same thing is going to happen in America. And it depends on how long
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they can keep up this propaganda and avoid any kind of public debates. There has never been any debate
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ever that I have ever heard of between people on both sides of the issue and talking about this
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in a public forum where you have experts on both sides. It has never happened. It has never happened
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on a college campus. It has never happened in any other forum. In fact, Steve, I don't think you're even
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able to get anyone from the pro-vaccine side on your program at all to ask questions.
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No, impossible. Impossible. And so that tells you something. You see, what they're trying to do
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is they need to convince those people who are vaccine hesitant to take the jab. Now, the people
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who are vaccine hesitant, those people listen to Steve Bannon and they listen to other sources like
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Fox News. And so their inability and unwillingness to appear on those shows shows that they're not
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serious about going after. You know, Steve, you bring up a great point. As a kid, I took every
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vaccine, you know, to get into school back in those days. You just did it. I, as a naval officer, I had
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a particular, I was in the Pacific fleet. We had a whole schedule of vaccines. Bang. I've never been
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anti-vax. I've taken every vax I've been ordered to take. I'm not vaccinated here and I won't be.
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And the reason I won't be is peoples whose opinion I trust, like you and Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malone,
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and I can go through a whole list from the beginning, have really showed me the evidence to say,
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whoa, this is still a clinical trial. I don't want to participate in the clinical trial. When you have
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more data, come back to me. I'm always open-minded, right? But I haven't seen it because
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people I respect, you guys actually went through the data. And what I heard from you guys is totally
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different than the safe and effective over the other side. And I know many people personally
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that have gotten these blood clots and have come to me, have gotten blood clots. And some people
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have had relatives die from the blood clots and they've gone to the hospital and people said,
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oh, is that the Pfizer? Is that the Pfizer clot? And so I'm not vaccinated. I'm not going to get
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vaccinated. I'm a guy that's not anti-vax. I've taken every vax I've been ordered to take either in the
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military or as a kid. And I think that's a lot of people out there. And I know a lot of people that
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it's like the Israel, you know, cause you need like five boosters now, whatever. I know so many people
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that took it originally, not in a million years, they get another one, not going to happen until they
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see more evidence. And I think Israel is a perfect example. They had the highest fully comply rate
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at the beginning. And now it's, you know, your numbers say the 2.4%. I think it tells you where it is.
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And you see there's very little uptake on the booster and yet they're pumping out those same
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ads with the same, you know, MSNBC, CNN, you can see the ads on all night. They just pump it out
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nonstop. Steve, we got to bounce. How do people get to you and learn more about you and your research
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and all your writing? It's stevekirsch.substack.com. S-T-E-V-E-K-I-R-S-C-H.substack.com.
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And it's got over 700 articles. I don't expect everyone to read them all, but just go through
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it and just look at the headlines and read the ones that you're interested in. And, you
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know, the data is out and it shows that these vaccines make no sense for anyone.
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And Steve came at this from a guy that he did not come from this from the anti, he was not
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part of the children's health defense. He came at this kind of from the opposite side.
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It was the math that did it. Steve Kirsch, amazing job you're doing for the American people.
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Dr. McCullough, before you let you go, this is what I think it's kind of a day lives in
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infamy. I just think this is another marker that now all this has come up and to have
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this and to really have no debate. And here's the tell. I know something's up. Unlike when
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this thing first came out and they were just banging the drum on Amazon, there's been crickets.
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We try to pull a clip to introduce you guys about virtually nothing, total crickets. They're
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not they're not out there pushing this right now. So there's definitely something up because in the
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old days they'd have Fauci out. They'd have the head of CDC out. They'd be they do a thing at the
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White House. None of that. They know this is controversial. And quite frankly, I'm hearing
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from places like in Connecticut and other places that are blue states. The reason we're winning
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these house seats and at the state level is the parents and it's the parents about the mask and
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the vaccine, the other stuff, too. But this vaccine is really driven. Some parents say, no,
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I want to take a different route. Give us your closing thoughts about this, about how this could
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happen at a 15 to zero vote, which I think is what sticks in my craw.
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I think this is the issue for voters out there. They want to know where candidates stand on the
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vaccines. And, you know, many Americans, in fact, the majority of Americans took the vaccines. They
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took them early. They were patriotic. They were told to do this. But everyone now has developed,
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I think, a severe sense of hesitancy and pause. The safety data are overwhelmingly bad. And it keeps
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coming in bad. The new bivalent boosters were never even tested in humans. The vaccines are not
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getting safer. And they're not stopping COVID. We need a deep sense of humility here and need to be
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able to shut down the program, just like Gerald Ford shut down the program for swine flu in 1976. It's
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got to happen. And I think the leaders who are honest, who come forward and say, shut it down,
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let's move on, and let's pick up the pieces, help America recover, those will be our leaders of the
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Well, that's going to come up the forefront, because now it's a whole, the parents are going
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I want to bring in Seb Gorka. I don't want to play the cold open. I'll wait till after the break.
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Seb, I just got a question. We had Heather Mullen. She's, we're going to try to get her back on.
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Heather is the reporter, investigative reporter for Real America's Voice. She starts in Boston today,
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outside the lab of Boston University, where they're doing gain-of-function experiments in Boston,
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right, in the city of Boston. And it was Senator Marshall out in Kansas, who's been on the show
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before talking about this. He's saying, this is like testing nuclear weapons in downtown Boston.
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How, and he sees CDC this morning. We got a minute. How, how can we have trust in institutions
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when things seem, the administrative state seems totally incompetent and out of control, sir?
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It is the most dangerous concatenation of incompetence and arrogance. That's what we
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have today. We have, you know, if you look at Jake Sullivan, Jake, Jake Sullivan, that pencil necked,
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you know, guy that brings in the, the soy lattes for the cabinet meeting. He's the national security
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advisor of the United States. That's where we are today. The only place where we should be even,
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even thinking of handling pathogens, it should be USEMRID and should be Fort Detrick. After we
00:27:42.800
signed, after Nixon signed the 1972 bioweapons treaty, it is clear, only defensive experimentation
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to protect us from other people's bioweapons. The idea that a private lab at some woke university,
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the ultra woke university is working on a virus that will have 80% lethality. It's insanity, Steve. It's
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sent that resignation letter. Milley makes a very consequential decision. He tells his staff,
00:31:06.340
you know, I'm just going to fight Trump from the inside.
00:31:10.760
Okay. I want to, you're back in the war room. I got Dr. Seb Gorker is not just a colleague,
00:31:17.780
but a dear friend. Richard Haas is in the New York Times today. Seb, I'm sure he saw that. He's
00:31:22.980
stepping down to the Council on Foreign Relations because he sees he can't fight us anymore. But he
00:31:27.740
says going out the door, this interview of the New York Times, he says the most dangerous element in
00:31:32.980
the world today is MAGA, is the people that believe that the election was stolen on J6. We're the most
00:31:38.940
dangerous. This is Haas, not the Mexican cartels, not the Russian military, not the CCP, not the
00:31:44.840
Mullahs and Iran getting the nuclear weapon, not Al-Qaeda, not what's left of ISIS, none of that.
00:31:49.580
Nope. It would be MAGA. And then right there, Seb, and I trust you, that's where we played the clip.
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I hadn't heard it. My blood is boiling right now. Explain what Susan Glasner, the book, and what is
00:31:59.840
going on. That is high treason, what we're talking about, Dr. Seb Gorker.
00:32:04.700
So, of course, Haas would say that because he would have said the same thing about the founding
00:32:12.640
fathers of America, that they are the greatest threat to the British Empire. Right? Right?
00:32:20.480
A thousand percent. He would have been a Tory. He would have been a Tory. He'd have been a
00:32:24.200
King's College. He'd have been in Columbia when Hamilton. He would have been a Tory, like the
00:32:29.600
president of King's College. He would have been King George's lapdog. Okay? So that audio I played
00:32:38.580
to you, so I have a stupid iPhone and the iNews thing pops up and it was a podcast I hadn't heard
00:32:45.040
of before. And stupid me, I popped on it and I listened to it. And it's that Democrat podcast
00:32:50.080
with the authors of the Divider book about President Trump. And you hear it right there,
00:32:57.100
the authors in their interview with Milley. Milley said, I didn't resign so I could subvert
00:33:03.960
the president from the inside because he was the greatest threat to America. Just like Haas said,
00:33:11.500
a man who's never been elected, a fat disgrace to the U.S. Army uniform, who's never been elected,
00:33:18.220
said the man chosen by 62 million Americans and then 74 million Americans is the threat to America.
00:33:26.560
No, no, no, no, no. He's a threat to you. He's a threat to the deep state, the deep state that is
00:33:33.340
sending FBI agents to arrest 22 pro-life activists, including Mark Houck. That's the reality.
00:33:43.260
Praying the rosary. Hang over a second, but I want to get into depth here. Peter Baker and his wife,
00:33:48.200
Susan Glasner, wrote the book, I think The Deceiver. Glasner is a former head of Politico.
00:33:52.940
The Divider. The Divider. She's a chairman. She was editor of Politico. She's now editor,
00:33:57.220
I think, at the New Yorker, I think it is. Peter Baker is the lead correspondent, White House
00:34:02.800
correspondent for the New York Times. So they don't come any heavier than these two, and they're
00:34:07.680
resourced. I want to go back how this came up, though. On June 7th, in the middle of the burning
00:34:14.840
down of the city because of Black Lives Matter, remember, they didn't have to wear a mask. They
00:34:18.720
could burn it down, and nobody arrested, no six-feet distance. President Trump's in the White House
00:34:25.240
said, we've got to have a show of strength. They walk over to St. John's Church, as you know,
00:34:28.800
Seb, the Church of Presidents, right? Right there across Lafayette Square to St. John's Church. He
00:34:36.580
turns around. They go, they're so incensed, and the media jumps on them, Esper and Milley, so much.
00:34:41.560
When they get back to the Pentagon, remember, Esper in his book says they talked to each other
00:34:45.960
in the Pentagon that night and made a pact. They made a pact to basically thwart Trump. This is in
00:34:53.080
June of 2020, a sitting commander-in-chief who, at the time, is actually leading in the
00:34:57.840
polls against Biden. Biden had just gone through the selection process in the primary. This is a
00:35:03.320
sitting commander-in-chief who appears like, because the virus hadn't played out and they
00:35:09.000
hadn't stole it yet, Mark the last-hand stole it, is going to be commander-in-chief for another four
00:35:12.460
years. They met the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Now,
00:35:17.420
Seb Gorka, you do this for a living. You're a pro. Is that seven days in May, like seven days
00:35:22.900
in June? I mean, they brag about it. It's in Esper's book. It's Glasner's right there saying
00:35:28.640
he considered the greatest threat to the United States, the sitting commander-in-chief, and then
00:35:33.700
later, we know he talked to the Chinese Communist Party directly. Is that not high treason, sir?
00:35:41.680
If that is not high treason, then high treason does not exist. Let's be clear. Those who called
00:35:48.300
you, me, the president, Biden, who called 74 million Americans semi-fascists in front of Independence
00:35:57.180
Hall just four weeks ago, they call us the fascists. They call us the authoritarians. What you just
00:36:05.280
witnessed was the confession that the most senior military officer in the most powerful nation in the
00:36:12.900
world deigned to say, I run the military. I am in charge. Not a civilian, not an elected official.
00:36:22.140
That is worse than fascism. There's a phrase for that, Steve. That's called military junta. That's
00:36:30.420
Argentina. That's Latin America in the 1970s. That is the essence of fascism in a uniform. But these
00:36:41.120
people actually, I mean, this is why I said it's arrogance and a concatenation of ignorance, because
00:36:47.960
they're stinking confessing it on a podcast, Steve. I mean, is that stupid? They are admitting that we
00:36:55.440
are traitors, and they're celebrating the fact, not only that they're traitors, that they are cowards.
00:37:02.200
Think about this. You're the chair of the Joint Chiefs, and he doesn't have the balls to actually resign.
00:37:08.520
He writes the resignation letter and then files it. They're cowards, Steve. They're fascists who
00:37:16.760
happen to be cowards, and that's why we will defeat them. We know from Esper's book, and we know from
00:37:23.320
all the books, even Glass's book, Milley never went back and actually sat down with the president. I
00:37:28.620
need a private meeting with you. I need to sit down one-on-one. There's some problems here. He never did
00:37:33.380
that. In your mind, I'm asking you professionally. Let's take the media host away, the talk show host
00:37:43.560
away, all that. You're a professional, because you've done this your whole life. Very specifically,
00:37:49.880
as you know, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as you know the Constitution of the United States,
00:37:55.240
is what Milley and Esper did. In Esper's book, they said they left that park that night,
00:37:59.560
met and talked that night back at the Pentagon, and the media was all over, and they cratered,
00:38:04.760
and they said they made a pact. They made a pact, and that pact was to thwart Trump as commander-in-chief,
00:38:12.380
because Milley told Glassner, Milley gave that interview to her, that they considered Donald
00:38:18.500
J. Trump in the first week of June of 2020 to be the biggest danger to the United States of America,
00:38:25.920
given all our enemies throughout the world. Seb Gorka.
00:38:31.300
The UCMJ is clear, Steve. You know it better than anyone. That individual, the first second he ever
00:38:39.340
expressed any desire to undermine the official chain of command in the United States, which has a civilian
00:38:48.180
at the head as commander-in-chief, should have been arrested, should have been put in shackles and
00:38:53.660
leg irons, and taken to a brig, and immediately court-martialed. When his civilian superior,
00:39:00.840
Mark Esper, who likewise was not elected by anyone, who had no political mandate from the people,
00:39:07.480
except that given to him by the man who was elected, said,
00:39:11.220
I'm getting into a secret pact to subvert the president of the United States, should have been
00:39:17.060
arrested for sedition, along with John Kelly. You need to listen to the rest of the podcast,
00:39:22.900
because afterward, Kelly says the same thing. Kelly says, our determination was to protect America
00:39:29.860
from the president. That's fascism. When an unelected cabal of people behind closed doors say,
00:39:36.760
the writ of the people, the sovereignty of the people is to be ignored, and we decide. The same
00:39:43.880
John Kelly, who, by the way, because I can talk about it openly, because he's mentioned it on
00:39:49.100
interviews on television, when our friend, when Corey Lewandowski, who had free access to the White
00:39:55.760
House, was found once in the Oval Office without John Kelly's permission, afterwards, John Kelly
00:40:05.360
so violently grabbed Corey and slammed him against the corridor, you know the corridor outside the Oval
00:40:14.120
Office, that the button of his suit ripped off as he screamed the following, and I will edit it for
00:40:21.600
your listeners. You never come into my effing building again, because I run this house. John
00:40:31.760
Kelly said, my effing building, the White House. The deep state is alive and well, and that he achieved
00:40:39.880
what he achieved in those four years, with people in his cabinet, as his chief of staff, at the top of
00:40:46.100
the military, actively subverting and committing treason is remarkable, and that's why we need him
00:40:51.620
back, because he has to take a political flamethrower to this fetid, rank, malodorous swamp, because they
00:40:59.540
will do it again. Doesn't matter who you are, you've got an hour after your name and your president, they
00:41:03.980
will subvert you, and they will use treasonous plots to undermine the will of the American people.
00:41:14.020
Seb, if I can hold you to the break, because I don't think we're going to get Miranda tonight.
00:41:17.720
But Miranda was going to come, she wrote the piece today, two years ago today,
00:41:25.760
51 senior intelligence officers wrote, and I was very involved, as people know,
00:41:30.360
in the launch of the laptop from hell. We did full due diligence.
00:41:34.880
Murdoch's lawyers did due diligence. They put the whole reputation in the New York Post,
00:41:39.000
founded by Alexander Hamilton, over 200 years old, on the line by putting the laptop from hell out.
00:41:44.340
Miranda, Emma Jo Morris, now over at Breitbart, she was an editor of the Post-Time, and Miranda Davis,
00:41:49.200
Miranda Devine, one of their top columnists, 51. When you take, where the second anniversary,
00:41:54.140
when you take that, Seb, which I know you know cold, you add it to what Esper and these guys did in June,
00:41:59.660
that was in October of 2020, you take what the DOD, what does it say to the American people?
00:42:05.000
What are we supposed to tell this audience in MAGA about what has happened to the officer corps,
00:42:12.000
and I mean at the senior level, what has happened to the officer corps,
00:42:15.300
what has happened to the senior most level of the CIA and the intelligence,
00:42:19.840
the heirs to Wild Bill Donovan, the OSS, all of that, J. Edgar Hoover,
00:42:25.140
the FBI, the intelligence apparatus, the senior members.
00:42:28.360
This is, this is treason. They knew, they knew it was not Russian disinformation.
00:42:35.280
They lied. Bald face lied. And what happened? So tell me, explain to me,
00:42:39.160
what is the problem with the officer corps that we put hundreds of billions of dollars into trains, sir?
00:42:45.560
So for those who aren't familiar, before I joined the administration,
00:42:48.240
I spent five and a half years as a DOD civilian, as a professor and associate dean of irregular warfare and counterterrorism
00:42:54.720
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00:43:06.640
I was at the one above all of them, the National Defense University at Fort McNair.
00:43:10.120
And I saw with my own eyes, because we were training 06s, 05s,
00:43:14.140
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00:43:17.680
As soon as they got to within 05, 06, and they were, knew they were promotable potentially to general,
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00:43:35.480
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When I ran an index after a nine-month postgraduate course for MOS strategists in the U.S. Army,
00:43:54.500
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00:44:06.940
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Miranda Devine's been nice enough to call in by phone.
00:47:08.800
I got Seb Gorka here with me, kind of co-hosting.
00:47:14.120
You were the guy that, you broke this story two years ago, and the laptop from hell, 51, I think it's 51 senior intelligence officers, came out and said, no.
00:47:28.960
This is Russian disinformation, and she put it out for the world to see.
00:47:34.820
Well, I think now, Steve, that we have seen enough evidence that convinces everybody, whether they're left or right, whether they're New York Times readers or New York Post readers, that our story was legitimate.
00:47:50.240
It was accurate, and it was consequential, and these 51 former intelligence officials, five former CIA directors, if you can believe it, two of them acting.
00:48:03.040
They have just refused to engage in their dishonesty.
00:48:11.160
I mean, they wrote a letter, a joint letter, published it on Politico, five days after our story came out, a couple of days before Joe Biden had his last debate with Donald Trump, and used that letter to get off scot-free.
00:48:28.360
We had put on the public record the fact that his son Hunter's laptop had evidence on it that Joe Biden had lied to the American people when he said he knew nothing about Hunter's overseas business dealings, and we'd also published the fact that there were millions of dollars that had flowed through to Biden's family coffers from the influence peddling that they'd been engaging in for eight years under Joe Biden.
00:48:58.360
Vice presidency, and what we hadn't yet published, but would soon publish, was the fact that Joe Biden actually personally, financially benefited from some of that.
00:49:18.100
And their fig leaf, their excuse for doing that was because these 51 former very high-level intelligence officials, most of them from the CIA, so this was a CIA operation, used the credibility of their former high office to demolish our story, to say that we were just agents of the Kremlin, that this whole Hunter Biden laptop story was a Russian disinformation operation.
00:49:49.460
They keep on trying to weasel out of it by saying, oh, we just said it was an information operation.
00:49:57.700
One of them came out on Fox News and said, oh, you know, it's not my fault that people are so stupid that they can't tell the difference.
00:50:04.740
No, every media outlet and Joe Biden himself in that debate came out and said this was a Russian disinformation operation, which was the intent of the letter.
00:50:19.360
And if these 51 intelligence operators are now pretending that people misinterpreted their letter, then they were honor bound when that letter was so widely misinterpreted, allegedly.
00:50:33.180
They were duty bound, honor bound to tell the American people before the election, oh, no, that was not what we meant.
00:50:39.600
We don't think it was a Russian lie, a Russian plot like Joe Biden told you.
00:50:49.280
Miranda, we're going to get you back on here real quickly.
00:50:58.680
And I'm on every social media outlet as Miranda Devine at Miranda Devine.
00:51:10.500
Seb Gorka, Miranda Devine used a term, your honor.
00:51:18.400
When this was there, I think Susan Glasner was still editor of Politico.
00:51:26.780
51 senior intelligence, most from the CIA, several directors.
00:51:35.340
Yeah, you asked me before the break, what do we do about it?
00:51:38.820
The hobbits of the Shire get activated in the midterms.
00:51:42.940
And in 2024, you take 10 people to the polls who otherwise wouldn't vote.
00:51:47.560
And we should do what I recommended the president do after Mike Flynn was taken out by the deep
00:51:54.600
Back then, I said, you need 12 guys, hard bastards who know the swamp.
00:51:59.420
And in pairs, they go from every department every Friday, and they go to the secretary
00:52:04.840
and they say, Mr. Secretary, what have you done in the last seven days to execute the
00:52:09.100
president's agenda as per the mandate given to him by the American people?
00:52:13.460
And if they don't exercise that mandate, if they are double agents, if they are traitors
00:52:18.440
like Milley, they are fired or they are scolded out of the building in handcuffs for their
00:52:24.820
Secondly, before we get to that point, we have to have one of the original, less than
00:52:30.960
People like you, me, McEntee, people who were inside the building as true MAGA in senior
00:52:37.180
And we have to vet the 4,000 presidential appointees.
00:52:42.820
If we don't do that, it's not worth winning the election, Steve.
00:52:46.260
Give me your, by the way, Mike Flynn's going to join us next.
00:52:48.540
PBS is out with a new film called Mike Flynn's Holy War.
00:52:52.640
Seb, give us all your contact points, the podcast, the radio show, your writings.
00:52:58.060
Most important thing is the brand new Substack where you can get my writings at
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Sebastian Gorka, G-O-R-K-A dot Substack dot com.
00:53:08.260
And then on every social media platform except the fascistic YouTube.
00:53:12.480
So if you want to go to Truth Social, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, we're all there.
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