Episode 2311： Chaos On Election Day In Maricopa; Taking Down The Administrative State
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Summary
In this episode, Jonah Landry and Jeff Zink discuss the Maricopa County Election Board's handling of the recent recount in the governor and attorney general races, and why they believe voting machines should not be used in this election.
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Hi, my name is Jeff Zink. I'm also a Maricopa County resident. I'm also a congressional
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candidate for District 3 against Ruben Gallego that I ran. One of the things that I am trying
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to bring brought to attention is that we have media that's being excluded here. The America
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Voice and Gateway Pundit has not been allowed to be in here. Why? That's a great question
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for y'all to answer. The other is that I also worked the Arizona audit in 2020. Also the
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Arizona primary audit that a lot of people don't know. I've also worked nine states in
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this country. The fraud that has been taking place is rampant. But this county alone, y'all
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and Georgia are fighting tooth and nail to be who's more corrupt. This is something that
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I feel like that we need to actually take control of. In my race alone, an algorithm
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took place which shows that at no time did I ever gain any ground whatsoever. Yet in all
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of the exit polls and all the people have been polled, 56% of the people exiting out of Maricopa
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County was Republicans on election day. Yet that does not reflect in any shape or form
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in my election. In fact, it is a linear line that is actually perpendicular to Ruben Gallego's.
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This is a farce. This election absolutely along with the 2020 is no longer certifiable. This needs
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to be redone. We need ballots that are paper. It needs to be counted in one day. If Florida
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can count, which is twice our size, the amount with a hurricane, then we should be able to do
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it in one day as well. And the fact that we don't is a disgrace to not only the Arizonans
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that you're trying to represent, but what I'm also trying to represent.
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Hello. My name is Jonah Landry. I'm 20 years old, and this past midterm will be the first time
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I have voted in a second major election. It is an honor to be able to take part in such
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an integral part of our country, but nothing is more diminishing than feeling like your
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voice is not heard. And that's what I and many others feel right now. I am not here to attack
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anyone, but I am here to simply give a perspective that many of my peers and I feel. Many of you
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are probably here going to get complaints about insecurities with machines, ballot stuffing,
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week-long counting, and some of the members even of this board being in a coalition that was to
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prevent MAGA candidates. And though some of these arguments I agree with having some factor in the
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result of the elections, that is not what I'm here to talk about today. Today, I'm here to talk about
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something that can't be chalked up to conspiracy theory rhetoric, but is a factual event that cannot
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be denied. Today, I'm here to talk about the errors that occurred in 20 to 30 percent of our voting
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machines. The delays that resulted from these errors extended lines around 60 to 90 minutes long.
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Now, normally, I would be upset about this, but wouldn't say it's election-changing issues if it
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were not for two factors. First is how close this election is. Our governor is being decided by a
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difference of 17,000 votes and our attorney general by less than 1,000. The second factor is that a request
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to extend the poll was submitted, just like Pennsylvania when they had delays, but for some reason,
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it was shot down. That is willful neglect. A lot of people here went to vote early because they had
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no time to vote after work, but delays did not allow them to vote in general without being late.
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When election day in-person votes averaged around 16 percent Democrats and these machine errors
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affected mainly red areas, we would have seen different results. I request that December 6th,
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Maricopa County holds a runoff election without these machines that caused the problems in the first
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place. Thank you. Thank you again, please. No outbursts.
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Hey, Arizona. Carrie Lake here. I wanted to reach out to you to let you know that I am still
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in this fight with you. For two years, I've been sounding the alarm about our broken election system
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here in Arizona, and this past week has confirmed everything we've been saying. When we called for
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Katie Hobbs to recuse herself over a year ago, they ridiculed us. It turns out we were right.
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The fox was guarding the hen house, and because of that, voters have been disenfranchised.
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When we raised concerns and I filed a lawsuit months ago to get rid of the electronic voting
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machines, they said we were crazy. Well, it turns out we were right. On election day,
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nearly half of all polling locations had problems with tabulating machines and printers.
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Malfunctioning tabulation machines forced voters to wait in line for hours to exercise their sacred
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right to vote. I talked to voters who waited in line for hours. One man told me he went to a location
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and there was a three-hour line because the tabulators weren't working. He drove 15 miles to another
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location and the printers weren't working. He drove another 15 miles and was finally able to cast his
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vote, but he's not sure it counted. Our election officials failed us miserably. What happened to
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Arizonans on election day is unforgivable. Tens of thousands of Maricopa County voters were
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disenfranchised. Now, I am busy here collecting evidence and data. Rest assured, I have assembled
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the best and brightest legal team, and we are exploring every avenue to correct the many wrongs
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that have been done this past week. I'm doing everything in my power to right these wrongs.
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My resolve to fight for you is higher than ever. This movement started in Arizona, and it quickly
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expanded to all 50 states. It's a movement of mama bears and papa bears and students and Arizonans who
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love this country, who want secure borders, who want schools that prepare their children for the
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real opportunities that are out there. It's a movement of Arizonans who want safe streets once again
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and want the drug crisis to come to an end. It's a movement of Arizonans who want prosperity
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and the pursuit of happiness. That movement is stronger than it ever has been. And I can promise
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you one thing. This fight to save our republic has just begun. I love you, Arizona, and I love you, America.
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It is Thursday, 17 November, in the year of our Lord, 2022. And if you think the fight ended on
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election day, you are sorely mistaken. Carrie Lake throwing down hard is a symbol of top quality
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team of data experts, a team of lawyers. But it's really just to augment the people of Arizona. I've
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never seen an outpouring like this in my life. This dwarfs 2020. The material I've seen, the videos
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I've seen, the affidavits I've seen, it's overwhelming. We could play the clips from Maricopa
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County for hours. Brian Kennedy, in fact, is going to join us at the top of the hour for the next hour
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to go through more of it. I want to bring in now Caroline Wren, a senior advisor to Carrie Lake.
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Caroline, just tell us, where exactly do we stand in this? You know, you guys went dark and shipped for
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a couple of days internally, I think, to work these things through. You know, we're coming up on Friday.
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They haven't finished counting. You were still getting drops, right? We're getting drops from Apache,
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Cochise. You know, there's, there was more, I think there was more ballots from Maricopa County
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this morning. You know, we, we, we were told the other day that, you know, Maricopa County's done,
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but there's all sudden more in Maricopa County. Surprise, surprise, couple of thousand.
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So I don't think this, the certification process hasn't, I think, officially started because they're
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still putting in ballots. Where, where are we in the process and where are we in, uh, Carrie Lake's
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fight? Well, it's been, uh, I guess, what is it? Eight days since election day and they're not done
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counting. I mean, this doesn't happen in other States. This is unbelievable. We're watching
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Maricopa just keeps finding more ballots and there it's the, the lack of communication between
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Maricopa County and the different campaigns, the legal teams is, is really stunning. Um, they,
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they don't give us any straight information, any straight answers. We asked for it politely. We,
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we tried to demand it and it's just nothing. We just are basically at the mercy of,
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of what everyone else sees where they just publicly say, okay, here's another drop.
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Good luck, figure out where it's from. And then there's counties all over that we don't have
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still, you know, all the votes in, you know, Abe's in a really, really tight race. And every time you
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see Abe just gained 222 votes, but then Apache County drops 224 votes for Chris Mays. And it's just,
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it's nobody has faith in this. This is a completely broken system. And so we're, we're working hard.
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We went a little dark, just trying to figure out what to do. It's hard to keep up with the amount of
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information that is, is one public coming out publicly, but also just thousands. I can,
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thousands of people who are reaching out to say that they or a loved one or a friend was
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disenfranchised on election day and preparing a legal team to even go through that amount of data
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is, is really quite difficult. I mean, that is just so much. And then the other part is
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a big place where that data lives is in the secretary of state's office. This is the same secretary of
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state. That's our opponent who wouldn't recuse herself. This is the same secretary of state
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who was in charge of certifying this election. This is the same secretary of state who botched
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this entire election that she was supposed to oversee.
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Why haven't you gone in? If you're, if you're, if Maricopa County is not giving you access and
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there's some pretty basic things they have to give, like the, the, the login book versus the number
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of votes. I mean, there's certain ways the system's supposed to have to check the manuals of the,
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the man check in, check it. The manual is about that thick. And of course there were so many
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conflicting and confusing, um, orders given on, on Tuesday that conflict with the document.
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That's that big. Remember this document just didn't drop from heaven. This document was highly
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negotiated and processed oriented. And I think Haiti Hobbs's names on a, uh, it's promulgated under the
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signature of the secretary of state and the attorney general and the governor that this was all supposed
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to take care of the problems of 2020. So this is not something that just, they just kind of thought
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up on the spot yet. There's so many moving pieces that weren't done according to the manual.
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If you're not getting the information, why have you not gone in the court and get an injunction and
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have a judge or ask for the court to start to supervise this? What, what, what is, what, if it's,
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if it's as much as fiasco on the inside from you guys, as it appears to the voting public and to
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the media that is covering this closely. Uh, and you can just see it, Maricopa, don't take my word for it.
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Just listen to the hours of testimony by voters and, and candidates at the Maricopa County
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board of supervisors meeting. Why are you not in court asking for a TRO and injunction,
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or at least for some sort of court supervision of this fiasco that obviously Katie Hobbs and Bill
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Gates can't manage and can't oversee ma'am. But answer the first part of your question regarding
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the manual since 2020 and Katie Hobbs will reminder her office has been closed since 2020.
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So I don't think anyone within Katie Hobbs office or anyone even knows what's in this manual quite
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frankly, because they're certainly not following it. And this was truly one of the worst run
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elections maybe in the history of time. So it's that part. The second part is I can't go too much
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even to the legal strategy, but there are a couple of things I can go into. And there's been a lot of
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back and forth between our attorneys and the Maricopa County attorneys. And I do think that we need
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to be more public about what those things are. We've been trying to be very careful and, and I don't want to
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say play by the rules because the Democrats certainly don't, but trying to follow this process
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along. But one of the letters that our attorneys sent yesterday is something really simple that
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we'd like to know. Why is it that we, we start early voting on October 12th and why did 0% of
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the voting centers encounter tabulation problems during early voting when we know the Democrats
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were all heavily voting? And why did that number then jump up to 48% of voting centers encounter
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tabulation problems on election day when voters voted for Carrie Lake three to one? Basic things like
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that are being put in writing. We're sending the Maricopa County shocker. They're not answering
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them, but these are things that if, you know, certain things end up going to litigation, I think
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there's a lot of people who would like to know this because I would like to know, I think that is
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absolutely outrageous. And, and it's, it's either total incompetence or it's malice. And I, I think
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that's, that's what we're going to try to find out.
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Carrie Lake is a fighter. Her whole, um, campaign is a, is a fighter's campaign is, uh, I take it you guys
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are doing the work. You're getting the data. You just don't want to be flailing around. But I would
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assume that given what you're telling me that the people, her supporters and her opponents are going
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to see something a little more aggressive, uh, shortly. I guess, I mean, we see, we both are also
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the courts aren't on our side. Like Ryder, Carrie Lake sued to get rid of these tabulation machines
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six months ago. And the court told her she didn't have standing. Like if Carrie Lake didn't have
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standing, I mean, who does? And sure enough, like they all said that we're crazy and we're
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conspiracy theorists and the judge threw it out. Kelly Ward was yelling at everyone for months
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about Toner Inc. And they called her a crazy conspiracy theorist. And here we are. 48% of
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the tabulation centers went down on election day due to Toner Inc. and other printer malfunction
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issues. This is something that we sued about six months ago, something we yelled at everyone
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about. So, you know, we can take these things to court, but like at some point we're just
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does, does, does, does, does, does the campaign think that this election is certifiable? Yes
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or no? I don't want to answer that question to jump out against the litigation yet, but
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I can, I can tell you that Carrie Lake is certainly a fighter and it's, it's, I just don't want
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to answer that yet, but I think that the public will have an answer to that very, very soon
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as to whether we do or not. Caroline, how do people follow you? People are on tenterhooks
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about this. Uh, not just the Carrie Lake, um, uh, supporters, but the media from around
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the world, the opposition, the Carrie Lake haters, the Carrie Lake supporters, the world
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at large, uh, how they follow you? Well, I think one thing, if you have any friends
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or family or one of the thousands of people in Maricopa County that experienced serious
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issues on election day, encourage people to go to save az now.com. And that's where you
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can officially put in your claim and we have attorneys that are going to be looking into
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that. And then separately follow at Carrie Lake on Twitter, get her other places. And
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it's at Caroline Wren at Carrie Lake at Caroline Wren and save az save az now.com.
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I'll get it. That's easy for you to say. Caroline Wren. Thank you very much. Thank you very much,
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ma'am. We will turn now to Liz Harris when we get back after a short commercial break.
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Okay, welcome back. Thursday, 17 November, Year of the Lord, 2022. We stay in Arizona. Liz Harris,
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you remember Liz from a couple of years ago, the canvassing. She got a nasty letter
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from Merrick Garland that said, hey, if you start doing canvassing, that's a criminal activity.
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And we got the hairy eyeballing. You're trying to intimidate Liz Harris,
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the good folks out in Arizona. They're not, you can't intimidate them. She's now one being state
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rep from Arizona 13 in the Chandler area. But Liz, you put out something today. You said,
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let me get this right. You said you were willing to give up your victory, willing to give up your
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victory if they would have, if they would stop the certification process and just do the whole
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statewide election over again. And do I understand that right or am I incorrect?
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Well, yeah, I know that's a good interpretation. I won my election. However, I am calling for a new
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election here in Arizona. So as many of us were highly disappointed when Carrie Lake did not prove
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victorious. However, we knew this was another repeat of a fraud, potentially fraudulent election.
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It was like a redo of 2020. So in Arizona, also understand that the victory for the House
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and the Senate for the state of Arizona. It's a margin of one Republican each. Now the projections
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were that the House should have a five to seven person Republican win and that the Senate should have
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a three to five person win. So to give us Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, and a one advantage on the House
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and the Senate, there is no way. All indicators do not indicate that that was what was deemed to
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happen. Arizona was undergoing a red wave. And instead, they give us Katie Hobbs, who will do
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nothing to help the state legislature with election reform. We have...
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Okay, okay. Hang on. Hang on. Hold on. I know the candidates. I know the things. But I want to get
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because you're a detail person. Yes. Is it sour grapes? And let's say I argue that, hey, the McCain
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and the Mormons out there are moderates and they look at you guys as a... I'm giving the mainstream
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media's take that you had the McCain faction and the Mormon faction, which is the central part to the
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business community. They're very moderate. They're kind of open borders. And they look at you guys as a
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collection of extremists and they voted for the treasurer who they're comfortable with and they didn't vote
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for the rest of you. So that's why he didn't get the seats. Do you have a concrete argument?
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Because you've been doing this for years and you've been detailing. I mean, you're the hero because you kind of
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went around and knocked on doors and actually drew a letter from Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco, I think,
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to say, hey, we think that's a canvas to actually see who's there. And your survey, you showed enough,
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I think, to show there were some problems. That's why they wanted to shut you down. And Navarro kept
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saying, it's Liz Harris, it's the canvas, not the count, right? What do you have here besides, oh,
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we didn't win enough seats and Carrie Lake's not governor, ma'am?
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My bold statement is that they have controlled the elections for decades. That is a very bold statement,
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but the canvas proves it. The machine information that the software information that we've learned
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over the year, last year, there's so many things. And what happens is when you want to put this
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evidence in front of them and show them the canvas or show them anything, they don't want to look at
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it. You know, it's like they don't want to see the evidence. I have offered to every single legislator,
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come to my office and look at the canvas results. CNN, they didn't look at it. They said,
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oh, we debunked it. I mean, that's the problem. They don't want to look at the evidence.
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Steve, if they looked at the evidence. Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on. You went out and after you did
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this, you actually ran for office and you won an office in the state legislature of Arizona, which
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is no small thing. Most of the congressmen and senators, they all started there. You have an
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obligation to the people in the Chandler area that you ran on a ticket and you won. And it's also
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a legislature that's virtually a dead heat. So each vote, including your vote, is magnified.
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You've proposed that either have a new election or something you may not vote in any legislation
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until if they certify this election. Is there anything from this election where you actually
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ran, not the body of evidence that you've had to date, which I think is quite compelling, but in this
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election, the one that took place in the weeks leading up to in the day of November 8th, that
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would compel you to say, I'm prepared to have the people of Chandler who will hopefully have your back
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to say, I'm not prepared to really take my seat until this thing gets sorted out.
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So I'm going to take the seat, but I'm going to withhold votes, which is essentially not take.
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All right. So going into the election, we had over 1,000 Republican advantage, meaning 1,000 more
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people sent in mail-in ballots, which is very good because typically even in Republican districts,
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the number of mail-in ballots that get returned for the Democrats, it's always higher. We went,
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Julie Willoughby and I, it's a two, there are two seats. Julie Willoughby and I were running as a team,
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two seats, two Republicans. I believe very strongly that Julie Willoughby and I, we were cheated out
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of votes based on the fact that a Democrat website named Uplift had the numbers in our favor. And then
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when you get all the people to come out and vote on election day, which is typically a high Republican
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percentage, I was very confident going into this elect, going into election day that Julie and I
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had it, but instead they had the Democrat win by over 3,000 votes. And then they had Julie and I neck and
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neck. So if we can get a new election, the only type of election that I'm going to trust, and this is nothing
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new. I've been saying this for two years, one day, one vote, paper ballots, no machines, hand counts,
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strong voter ID, and the voting at the precinct level. It's that simple. That's how it was when
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our founding fathers created this country. That is how we will have a fair election. And if we can do
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that, it would be, it would be amazing because I think that is going to show the red wave.
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Liz, how do people follow you for this? Because this is only going to get more contentious,
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particularly since people like you are putting out bold, let's say, ideas. And I know that the
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courts are going to get involved, I think, pretty quickly. How do people follow you?
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So on Truth Social, Facebook and Instagram, vote Liz Harris.
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Liz, thank you for coming on. Look forward to having you back on here as we track this. And very bold,
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bold proposal on your newly won't seat. Somebody needs to do it. Thank you.
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Liz Harris, a patriot. Okay. I want to play, I want to talk Arizona. Well, first off,
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Seb, before I get the cold open in here, give me your thoughts on Arizona and the election fiasco out
00:24:13.180
there. It's the GOP. I mean, what a, what a flipping disaster. I mean, you know, God bless our mate
00:24:19.760
Dylan for trying to put a good face on it. But when she comes on my show Wednesday morning,
00:24:23.460
from the, from the RNC wall room and says, uh, yeah, it's true. They didn't have enough printer
00:24:30.500
cartridges. What, what, what a joke. I mean, the Runa McDaniel should have handed in her
00:24:35.460
resignation. I know years ago, but the Wednesday after the GOP doesn't have printer cartridges,
00:24:42.060
that's just ranking competence. But, but the biggest story is the following. It is the ballots
00:24:48.440
versus votes. Some candidates are just going to win because they're great candidates in those states
00:24:54.620
where the GOP isn't in control or their ranking competence. We have, I hate saying this, my gosh,
00:25:00.800
I can't believe I'm saying this. We have to harvest more ballots than, than the bad guys. I mean,
00:25:07.460
if you've got 50 days of voting, uh, in, in Pennsylvania, 45 in the Commonwealth after
00:25:13.660
Yunkin takes over and, and more than 50% of Pennsylvania votes before a medically compromised
00:25:20.700
individual even debates Oz, then it's not about, it's not about Americans going to the polls to
00:25:26.800
choose a candidate. It's about the enterprise of collecting pieces of paper collectively and
00:25:34.280
harvesting them. And sadly, until we fix the system, the electoral system, we just have to out harvest
00:25:40.020
the bad guys. I, do you agree? Is this unconservative for me to say that Steve?
00:25:47.820
There's two different businesses. There's a ballot manufacturing distribution and, uh, harvesting
00:25:54.280
business. And that's what the Democrats are in, particularly in Nevada and, uh, and in Pennsylvania.
00:25:59.220
And then there's a get out the vote. Let's have some rallies, get out the vote, knock on doors and have
00:26:04.100
people come and actually vote. Right. That's the, that's kind of the horse and buggy system right
00:26:08.780
now compared to the, uh, the, uh, state of the art ballot manufacturing business. I'm not saying
00:26:15.340
it's a voting business. It's a ballot manufacturing business. Hang on for one second. How long can we
00:26:19.900
go and play Comer? Can we go and play Comer? Let me play Comer for, for seven. Okay, fine. Um,
00:26:26.700
I tell you, we'll do it right when we come back and break. Uh, Seb, what do you think in your
00:26:30.880
observation and talking to Harmeet? Do you think that the, uh, the election in Arizona is certifiable?
00:26:41.080
Yeah, of course, because, because she's going to certify herself. Should it be certified?
00:26:48.560
Absolutely not. But it's again, it's like, it's like 2020. If there's no chain of custody,
00:26:54.240
you live in the real world. Okay. Why do conservatives want to vote on election day?
00:26:59.920
Because guess what? I am the custodian of my vote. I physically go to the polling station. I show my ID.
00:27:07.000
They give me the ballot. I fill it in. I put it in the ballot box or I put it in the scanner.
00:27:12.440
The chain of custody works because I am the guardian of the chain of custody in Arizona and everywhere
00:27:19.180
else where we have early voting, where we have mail-in voting, where we have harvesting,
00:27:23.540
there is no chain of custody. So they can certify a, certify a pig in a poke. They can certify whatever
00:27:29.240
they want. It will be certified. But I told, spoke to Carrie Lake offline yesterday and man, she,
00:27:35.320
she's going to fight, fight, fight. I wrote a big piece in American greatness today, like 3000 words.
00:27:40.820
Uh, whatever happens, I think president Trump needs to create a ballot reform enterprise
00:27:47.960
and Carrie Lake should be the head of the national voter reform enterprise in America. What do you
00:27:55.900
think, Steve? Interesting concept. Here's what I think. She's not going to have time because she's
00:28:02.760
been governor of Arizona. I don't think this is going to show the Bible. I hope so. And I think she's
00:28:07.180
going to, I think she's going to go into court and get some court supervision of this. Short break,
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...to a rural Pennsylvania home of a Catholic pro-life demonstrator to arrest him at gunpoint
00:29:37.760
in front of his children in early morning hours, despite the fact that he posed no risk of violence
00:29:43.500
or threat and had previously offered to turn himself in. Numerous whistleblowers, field agents,
00:29:48.560
have alleged that D.C., your headquarters, has pulled them off working on child sex abuse cases,
00:29:53.920
working on human trafficking cases, in order to work on January 6th matters for this reason,
00:29:59.080
to give the appearance, they say, they say, that there are hundreds of new domestic terrorism cases
00:30:04.780
in the country, when in fact there are not. Whistleblowers, field agents, have also said
00:30:09.520
that D.C. has ordered the use of SWAT teams on non-violent suspects who may have attended a
00:30:15.260
January 6th rally, and they have been ordered to conduct surveillance and knock on doors of people
00:30:20.780
who were not even in D.C. on January 6th. And again, all of this, according to the whistleblowers,
00:30:25.620
these are your agents, all of this, in order to make it look as if there's a mass surge in domestic
00:30:31.140
terrorism all across the country, when in fact the stats are being padded by political directive
00:30:37.500
in your office. They also say, these whistleblowers, the D.C. leadership deliberately suppressed
00:30:43.060
investigations into Hunter Biden, contrary to FBI procedure, and have also retaliated against FBI
00:30:49.900
agents and whistleblowers who have contacted Congress, which by the way, they are protected by
00:30:54.880
statute to do so. This is what's happening at your FBI while you are evading oversight hearings.
00:31:03.820
Mr. Director, do you think you're still up to this job?
00:31:06.340
I absolutely think I'm still up to this job, and I think our workforce feels the same way.
00:31:12.140
Well, I don't. And frankly, I think you should have been gone a long time ago.
00:31:16.740
And given your behavior recently, I think it only makes it more clear. Are there any travel plans
00:31:21.260
today that we should be aware of that you have? We're supposed to have a second round. Will you
00:31:24.740
be here for that? Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:31:30.520
By the way, at the end right there, he was calling him a liar. If you noticed a little difference
00:31:35.560
what a difference the date makes, we're now in charge of the of the House. And let me give you
00:31:42.500
the signal, not the noise on the Senate. The 2024 cycle is horrible for the Democrats. They got
00:31:47.880
the 33 seats up, there are 24 Democrats. There's a half a dozen in red states. You got Tester and
00:31:53.200
Manchin. This is the reason the debt ceiling is now looks like it's not going to happen in the lame
00:31:58.060
duck. And right there, you see a new, innervated Senate, Josh Hawley, eviscerating the head of the
00:32:04.400
FBI, a stone-cold liar. Ray will be impeached. He will be, I think he's broken the law. I think
00:32:10.440
it's criminality up and down the FBI. But he had Congressman Comer. And this is McCarthy
00:32:15.800
not getting, you know, only getting 188 votes for speaker the other day. He heard you. He's
00:32:21.520
listening to Matt Gaetz because Matt Gaetz said, hey, these investigations are just going to be
00:32:25.880
performative. That's not performative. I mean, he listed, what, 10, Seb Gorka, 10 federal crimes
00:32:32.760
and then said, hey, this is not about Hunter Biden. This investigation about Joe Biden.
00:32:38.000
So I know everybody's talking about impeachment. Forget impeachment right now. Don't need to worry
00:32:40.660
about it. Just focus on the investigations. And that was a joint press conference between
00:32:44.900
the House Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committee. And Comer didn't come out like any
00:32:50.760
Trey Gowdy. Seb, your assessment of the first shots across the bow from Hawley in the Senate
00:32:58.420
and Comer in the House. Well, first things first, I was remiss. It was remiss of me. I didn't say
00:33:04.380
at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday, which was an amazing evening. I saw a certain member of the Bannon
00:33:09.780
family. She looked lovely. So it was great to see your daughter there in Mar-a-Lago. I don't know.
00:33:16.300
Maybe I have to do a mea culpa based upon what you told me in the break, Steve, because
00:33:20.820
allegedly Comer was, had his nose put out of joint when Matt Gaetz invited me to the members
00:33:27.640
dining room about two months ago to talk about what needs to happen after the midterms to
00:33:35.140
investigate Hunter Biden and the Biden organized crime cartel. I'd never heard of Comer before.
00:33:42.360
I'm always suspicious of politicians who've been in D.C. that you've never, ever heard
00:33:46.580
of because it means they haven't kicked up a fuss in the swamp. But apparently he's the
00:33:51.740
real deal. That list was impressive. I'm going to play exactly that cut again tonight. I'll
00:33:56.840
be hosting Rob Schmidt's show on Newsmax. So I'm going to play that whole sot again. I'm
00:34:04.120
not interested in subpoenas. I want to see these things. I want to see charges. I'm not
00:34:09.080
interested in impeachment. I want to see criminal referrals occur. The Biden family is an organized
00:34:16.640
crime cartel. Alejandro Mayorkas is aiding and abetting the cartels of Mexico right now.
00:34:26.360
He is helping them. He has kept the border open. The deaths, the blood are on his hands,
00:34:32.240
on the hands of Joe Biden. So look, it sounds good. It's a great soundbite. But if there's
00:34:37.260
anybody who's more cynical than me about D.C., it's got to be Stephen K. Bannon. So do you
00:34:42.420
trust this GOP with an individual who's taken no blame for the disastrous result, made the
00:34:52.500
minority leader again with Mitch in charge, with Kevin in charge? Do you trust these guys,
00:35:00.740
Well, you know, we had Matt Rosendale from Montana on yesterday. He said, there's no way that that
00:35:08.800
McCarthy has the votes. He just says he doesn't have them. I know he said that to me, but do you
00:35:16.840
Here's what I believe is that McCarthy, these guys understand, at least right now, there's enough
00:35:20.840
pressure on them that you had that press conference with Jim Jordan today. And that was impressive.
00:35:25.220
And I got to tell you inside the White House that rattled because here's why immediately after that
00:35:29.800
press conference, first off, a lot of mainstream media didn't show up for it. The questions were,
00:35:34.320
well, weren't these things all from 17? But you know what started trending right after that? It
00:35:38.880
was Jared Kushner because it said, well, hold on, if you're going to do Hunter Biden, don't you have
00:35:42.440
to do Jared Kushner on his Arab deal? So that shows you they're nervous. When they're counteracting
00:35:47.700
with, well, what about? You know they're nervous. So look, it's very simple, Seb, as you know,
00:35:54.500
if your audience and the John Frederick Radio Show and ours and the Real American Voice guys and
00:35:59.580
John Solomon, if our collective audiences keep the bayonets to the back, and I want to make sure
00:36:05.320
the liberal media understands that that's a term, old term of art, means keep pushing them forward,
00:36:10.780
I think we'll get some action. If we don't, they'll always go back to their ways, to their
00:36:16.120
cartel ways. I do believe that this, in fact, I know this came directly from the Gates challenge
00:36:22.480
that McCarthy is now trying to show everybody in the run-up to the speakers for the third that he's
00:36:27.220
going to be tough, and he unleashed the dogs. But no offense, I think you being over there at the
00:36:34.640
dining room in Congress, over in the house, and Comer seeing you with Matt Gates and giving you
00:36:41.620
stink eye understands Gates knows how to play the game. I mean, Gates has got tremendous media coverage
00:36:47.400
on this one-man rally. And look, Gates is a guy that wants investigations. He's as good as I've seen
00:36:55.000
in asking these questions. He's been a major part of Jordan. So you had Jordan stepping up,
00:37:00.420
and you have Comer. The bottom line is we're going to have to continue pressure. The appropriations
00:37:05.260
process is the anvil. The investigations are the anvil. Let me jump in here. Your analysis is sound,
00:37:13.280
but let me just push back on one thing. President Trump, at the end of his speech,
00:37:18.720
declared war on the establishment in a way he's never done before. When you stand up as a former
00:37:24.620
president who can lead another administration to victory, and you say, I'm going to amend the US
00:37:33.260
constitution, I'm going to propose an amendment that there are term limits in Congress, and that
00:37:39.680
all congressmen and women and senators will be barred for life from lobbying. At that point, Steve,
00:37:45.860
this man must be destroyed by the establishment. He must be utterly destroyed, because he has gone
00:37:52.680
after the only thing that matters to them, money and power. And the fact that we've had four people,
00:37:58.260
four members of Congress, in the last three days, actually endorse that declaration of his campaign.
00:38:07.740
Do we have the people with the spine to follow through? I love Matt Gaetz. Troy Nels has endorsed him.
00:38:15.120
Elise Stefanik has endorsed him. But can we go after the administration? You had one mission, Steve,
00:38:22.020
and it's to take down the administrative state. Can we do it with four people plus President Trump?
00:38:30.420
No, you can't. Here's how you got to do it. Victory begets victory. Because I keep saying,
00:38:35.040
I gave it the talk last night to the audience and then this morning. This is not, and Trump will get
00:38:42.440
more allies over time as victory begets victory. This is not 15 and 16, although he's running as
00:38:47.900
an outsider. This is going to be 10 times harder, 20 times harder. Yeah. This is Trump versus the
00:38:52.280
money. This is Trump versus the power. This is Trump versus the system. This is Trump versus the
00:38:57.820
establishment. This is the outsider versus the insiders. This is Trump versus the man. Okay. And
00:39:04.100
that's personified or manifested in Ken Griffin, in Paul Tudor Jones, in Steve Schwartzman, all the
00:39:12.880
Bayonaires, plus Rupert Murdoch. That's what Trump's against. It's not about DeSantis or
00:39:17.240
Youngkin. They're interchangeable vessels, right? They will find a vessel. They will find their vessel,
00:39:22.920
right? That is what he has to do. And only Trump can do this. And quite frankly, he doesn't even need
00:39:28.320
allies. He doesn't. It's great to Stefanik and these people. I think it's great that people are positive
00:39:32.260
and say, yes, I support him. But this is so fundamental and so raw. This is Trump versus
00:39:38.020
them. And this is Trump saying, hang on, hang on. You nailed it, Steve. Your strategic analysis is 100%.
00:39:45.460
Do we need him, because you're the former chief strategist, do we need him to move the turret,
00:39:54.720
to move the targeting radical from the front men that go-betweens, the front organizations,
00:40:03.680
and actually say, guys, do you know who's, it's Murdoch, it's Singer. Does he need to have that
00:40:10.440
narrative? Because if he does, he needs to start now.
00:40:12.800
I think, well, we'll have to give a couple of days and we'll see. I say, for Donald Trump,
00:40:22.240
who's a puncher, never punch down. When you're punching DeSantis and Youngkin, you're punching
00:40:26.920
down. Punch equal. These guys are your peers or they want to be your peers. They're jealous that
00:40:33.280
you're the president and they're not. Punch Paul Singer. Punch Ken Griffin. Punch Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch's
00:40:40.040
Punching You Every Day in the New York Post, our beloved paper. Punch back. Seb, tell us about,
00:40:44.900
give us tonight, give us all the contacts. We're in a sub-stack and Rob Schmidt's a show on Newsmax.
00:40:50.980
Let me just say something very clear. What you just said, what we just discussed for the last 120
00:40:56.520
seconds is the next two years. Everybody listening right now needs to understand the vector of attack
00:41:03.320
for us to succeed has to be the people behind the front men. If we want to drain the swamp,
00:41:10.040
it's got to be the money men we take down. Everybody needs to internalize what Steve
00:41:14.900
and I just discussed because it is the key to victory in 2024 and saving the republic.
00:41:19.960
Me, just follow me, SebGorka.com. All the social media except the fascists at YouTube. So,
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True Social, Twitter, and most importantly, sub-stack. That's SebastienGorka.substack.com.
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And tonight, I'm hosting Rob Schmidt, 7 p.m. I've got to go, 7 p.m. Eastern on Newsmax. Be there.
00:41:41.580
Seb's got to get in the hair and makeup. Dr. Gorka, thank you. Short commercial break.
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Okay, just another item from Arizona. Just another drop. And they said there's 8,000 votes still left
00:43:51.500
in Maricopa and 3,000 in Pima. I mean, Maricopa was supposed to be done two nights ago. This just keeps
00:43:57.380
on. It's not certifiable. I mean, you got to get into court. You got to get an injunction. You got to
00:44:01.480
show your data and your information, but I think the information is pretty overwhelming. This has
00:44:05.380
been a humiliation to the folks in Arizona. Just understand, on the world stage, you look like
00:44:11.080
buffoons. It looks like buffoons. And the guy you roll out there from Maricopa County, Bill Gates,
00:44:16.280
is a complete and total clown. And to think that goes in the world stage in front of BBC and German
00:44:21.980
television and CCTV in Beijing and NHK, what the word you talk about, democracy and everything,
00:44:28.060
this is a fiasco. And it's embarrassing. Embarrassing. And that's everybody in Arizona,
00:44:34.160
not just the Cary Lake supporters. I want to really glad to bring on someone I've wanted to be on the
00:44:40.500
show for a long time, Mike Adams, founder and publisher of Natural News, and also the founder
00:44:45.860
of Brighteon, the video platform, kind of a competitor to YouTube and Rumble. Mike, I want you on,
00:44:51.720
there's a very disturbing story out of Reuters. And of course, Zero Hedge picked it up.
00:44:56.120
It's about Germany. We have focused a lot on capital markets on the show. We particularly
00:45:00.660
focus a lot on European capital markets because they're so linked to the United States. But it's
00:45:05.480
a story about, from four insiders, from Reuters, you know, pretty squared away, that says that German
00:45:12.660
banks are getting emergency measures for cash because of the problems with heating, electricity,
00:45:19.840
everything's going on, that they're very concerned about chaos this winter. I can't think of a better
00:45:26.100
guy than you to come on and explain exactly what's going on. How serious do you think this
00:45:30.900
is? And how serious should people in the United States take kind of this, what I call the dark
00:45:35.880
valley that we're about to enter into, sir? Well, Steve, first of all, it's an honor to join you.
00:45:41.820
And I want to say that when we, the people, take this republic back and the new history books are
00:45:46.360
written, there will be an entire chapter dedicated to Steve Bannon and the War Room crew. No joke,
00:45:51.620
you guys are running this in beast mode nonstop. And I'm just happy to be here in parallel with what
00:45:57.120
you're doing and telling the truth. So to get to your question, I believe there's a global
00:46:02.300
dismantling of food and energy infrastructure that's taking place right now. I can give a lot
00:46:08.660
of specific examples that we can go into, you know, time allowing here. But in Germany, they know what's
00:46:13.420
coming. They know that the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines has shut off so much energy
00:46:18.420
that rolling blackouts are inevitable through this winter, especially if the weather turns colder.
00:46:23.360
They know that that's going to cause a lot of panic among their own citizens because Germany is a
00:46:29.900
cash intensive type of economy. Most people use cash for most transactions. If you have blackouts,
00:46:36.080
then the banks don't work, the ATMs don't work during those blackouts. I'm not saying they're
00:46:39.360
going to be permanent, but they can be rolling and they can cause a lot of frustration among citizens.
00:46:44.380
So they are preparing for emergency cash distribution and also fuel scarcity and the potential for
00:46:56.940
Mike, how long, because I've been a reader of natural news for many, many years.
00:47:04.000
This is all coming to a head now, but this is a process that's taken us a long time to get here.
00:47:09.240
Walk us through that process. We've got some time and we can just flow into the next hour or two.
00:47:14.180
Walk us through, how did we get in here? We talked about the dismantling of the food
00:47:17.120
and energy infrastructure. This just didn't happen out of nowhere. How did we get to this point when
00:47:22.720
an advanced nation, and I think the number three or four economy in the world, Germany,
00:47:32.780
Well, we have to bring up the issue of the climate change pushers. And through climate change,
00:47:39.360
understand not only did they then meticulously dismantle the fossil fuel infrastructure
00:47:43.560
in Germany, across Western Europe, and also in the United States through pipeline shutdowns,
00:47:48.420
halting of drilling, and so on. But you've got to understand, climate change called for carbon
00:47:52.720
sequestration, which is altering the chemistry of the atmosphere to pull CO2 out of the air. Now,
00:47:59.120
CO2 is nutrition for plants, for growing food crops. And the quickest way to feed the world,
00:48:05.880
by the way, would be to increase CO2 in the atmosphere. When you take CO2 out of the atmosphere,
00:48:10.840
you reduce crop yields worldwide. And that's exactly what's going on. And it's deliberate.
00:48:16.380
And so when you have a lot of third world nations that have marginal food production right now,
00:48:21.340
they're just barely on the edge of producing sufficient calories to keep their people from
00:48:26.220
revolting. And then you start taking CO2 out of the atmosphere. And then you have interference with
00:48:32.440
photosynthesis because of the Tonga volcano, January of this year, which NASA says ejected water vapor
00:48:40.220
into the mesosphere, which is above the stratosphere. So it's reflecting some amount of sunlight,
00:48:45.960
not enough for you and I to notice, but enough to affect crop yields and temperatures, which is the
00:48:50.620
length of the crop seasons. So now you're having crop yield failures globally. And then the situation
00:48:56.920
with Russia and the shutdown of natural gas is causing fertilizer shortages in Europe and the United
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States. So all of these are coming together, but it's the climate change cult, as I call it,
00:49:07.800
that is the source of dismantling all of this. And if we don't stop it,
00:49:12.000
a lot of people are going to die on this planet over the next three or four years because of that.
00:49:19.360
Germany is probably arguably the most, with the United States, the most advanced industrial power
00:49:25.800
on earth. And they've got kind of an engineer's mentality to things. How did this happen in
00:49:33.740
Germany? How is Germany like the hotbed of this? What's your thoughts on that? And we're going to
00:49:41.160
You're right. Germans are outstanding engineers. The German people are brilliant. And one of their
00:49:46.900
companies called BASF, B-A-S-F, is the largest chemical conglomerate, excuse me, in the world.
00:49:52.160
But they use natural gas as a feedstock and as an energy source to produce the inputs that go into
00:49:58.940
fertilizer. So the nitrogen-based fertilizers through the Haber-Bosch process, I think you've
00:50:04.220
had guests on that have spoken about that before. When this gets shut down, as is already happening
00:50:08.420
across Europe, you don't get fertilizer production because they're answering to the political virtue
00:50:13.420
signaling of the climate change cult. So it doesn't matter if you're the smartest engineers in the
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