Bannon's War Room - Episode 2320： What Lies In Store WithThe House And Kevin McCarthy

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10.000 medieval on these people you're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the

00:00:16.260 people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've

00:00:20.480 tried to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to

00:00:23.380 happen and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish

00:00:31.000 that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose

00:00:37.380 if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k

00:00:47.100 okay welcome it's uh tuesday 22 november in the year of our lord 2022 it is the anniversary of

00:00:58.320 the assassination of president kennedy back in 1963 we'll talk more about that uh later in the show

00:01:04.960 i've got we're going to be a lot of people traveling obviously for the holiday season and um we've got

00:01:12.060 some very special things happening dave bratt's going to join me tomorrow night at six we're going

00:01:18.240 to do a pre-game on thanksgiving um to walk through um not just the holidays and the traditions and back

00:01:24.640 of it but the philosophical um the philosophical background of the puritans and the pilgrims and

00:01:30.760 those that came in and actually the the cavaliers and the freebooters down in jamestown so we're going

00:01:36.100 to compare and contrast uh that and then on thursday i'm going to have a two hours i'm going

00:01:42.020 to be with um the patriots history of the united states larry swikert he's going to join me for all

00:01:48.880 the details of the pilgrims and uh the founding of the nation uh in the day we celebrate and also

00:01:55.620 president lincoln the second hour we're going to focus on president lincoln or president lincoln

00:01:59.980 actually after uh gettysburg declared the uh national day of thanksgiving in 1863 so we'll

00:02:07.000 cover all that with the patriots history of the united states i think it'll be uh as you're traveling

00:02:12.580 around on thursday morning it'll be something that you will want to uh listen to or watch if you can

00:02:17.200 okay we got a lot to get to today a lot of signal not noise we're going to be a little bit um uh i'm

00:02:23.580 not saying jumping in and out but people are traveling we've got a lot of people by phone there's a lot

00:02:27.600 of things happening uh mccarthy uh kevin mccarthy and a team of uh congressional uh delegates are

00:02:35.280 going down to el paso i think when you're on paso they always all the photo ops are in front of the

00:02:41.460 wall that we built and we built the wall right there the best mile wall ever built straight up

00:02:46.020 that mountain to keep the cartels out i think they're going to be there in front today he's supposed

00:02:50.680 to be making a very special announcement about mayorkas uh they've been tweeting it out so we're

00:02:56.340 going to get to we'll get to all that also maggie haberman who's really got the trump watch over at

00:03:02.720 uh the new york times she tweets out today that she can see the the contours of the attack

00:03:07.640 of uh president trump's uh president trump's primary run and that is to go after uh the to to make sure

00:03:15.180 that everybody understands this about the power of the money and the money's all tied to the ccp so

00:03:19.880 we're going to get to that later we've got a very special report 600 page analysis of the laptop

00:03:26.420 from hell natalie winters is going to be here garrett ziggler will join us so we got a lot going on

00:03:31.600 gates is going to come in some congressmen may jump in here uh another congressman came out last night

00:03:36.800 uh said he would never vote for mccarthy um all of that um okay do we do we just drop the uh

00:03:45.260 we drop cortez yes okay that's okay i can ramble on forever just let's whenever we're going to have

00:03:51.840 steve cortez we've got a lot of analysis uh to go maybe we just get him on the phone then people

00:03:57.500 are traveling so we normally have obviously try to get as many guests up here as skype as possible

00:04:01.460 but it's uh it may or may not work out okay so here's what's going on you've got this huge fight

00:04:06.740 on capitol hill remember we've got the lame duck the lame duck they're gonna all come back congress

00:04:11.740 is out of town this week they're all going to come back on you know sunday i think for a monday start

00:04:16.120 they've only got then what is that the 28th so they've only got uh they say they're going to

00:04:20.920 leave on the 15th that will never happen basically they hit two or three weeks they're trying they're

00:04:25.800 going to try to get monumental things done uh and not good things uh to to basically lift the debt

00:04:31.540 ceiling and quite frankly biden and some people i guess i shouldn't say that biden said he doesn't

00:04:36.540 want to do it but there's some radical democrats they want to do away with the debt ceiling

00:04:40.300 all together remember that's your one piece of uh your piece of leverage also and chuck schumer said

00:04:47.140 this chuck schumer talked about the uh chuck schumer talked about the replacement theory says hey the

00:04:51.660 reason you need all these illegal aliens and all the phony uh asylum seekers right not the people are

00:04:57.720 phony they're economic migrants we understand that but that's not not that does not make you eligible

00:05:03.380 for uh asylum here in the united states it has to be direct political uh oppression things that you can

00:05:10.100 absolutely show like people coming from uh mainland china that have been oppressed by the uh by the

00:05:15.260 ccp economic migrants we would have you know we just had the eighth billionth um child born here in

00:05:21.620 the world you'd have six billion people that want to live here in the united states um and so economic

00:05:26.600 migrants doesn't you know doesn't hack it we saw from todd bensman's uh magnificent report and i think

00:05:33.440 this report is informing some of the stuff that mccarthy and these guys are talking about and that

00:05:38.640 is um you know mccarthy i'm sure is sitting there saying they're going to put my yorkus

00:05:43.080 on notice they're going to put my yorkus on notice that investigation are going to start that will lead

00:05:47.620 to his impeachment because of his lies his perjury to congress his misrepresentation and his breaking

00:05:53.220 of the law uh and todd bensman the amazing report coming out of cis that showed how well thought

00:05:59.840 through this is remember they they called oh we had all this chaos and we had to you know put all

00:06:05.040 these emergency measures down there and all these emergency camps we know from um from oscar uh blue

00:06:11.700 ramirez we know from michael yon down in the darien gap we know from todd bensman we know from the great

00:06:17.680 ben burkwam we know from everybody that this is a very well organized thought due process right and of

00:06:23.140 course todd bensman's report the other day which is shocking you get up on cis and it's linked to it on

00:06:28.880 the war room site this plan of what humanitarian parole which was like before done for you know

00:06:35.540 maybe a police officer was shot and and came across the and you know he had to get him across the border

00:06:40.860 for medical care that's not what's been used for they actually have um stations now set up in mexico

00:06:47.140 to process people in mexico and to make sure they get them through in the dark of night so they're not

00:06:51.420 really counted in the in the you know the what the five million that they've put here in the last two

00:06:56.680 years so it is um those are the types of things in this um lame duck the fight over the lame duck is

00:07:04.580 to make sure that they don't do these radical radical um policies and programs they want to do

00:07:10.460 listen i think because of the war room posse you having your shoulder to the wheel that looks like

00:07:15.820 the debt ceiling is not going to get done it looks like the amnesty is not going to get done why are

00:07:21.120 they not going to get done they can't get enough republican senators to go around the reason they can't

00:07:25.720 get enough republican senators to go around is because they're afraid of the uh of the of the

00:07:30.960 of the blowback from um from their constituents in fact uh it was josh hawley that said uh yesterday

00:07:39.320 was quoted as saying hey the blowback from uh from republican voters would be too intense

00:07:45.240 would be absolutely too intense and so we've got those two down there are many other things they're

00:07:50.300 trying to do including this massive there's two things massive omnibus bill and a defense

00:07:55.800 authorization act the defense authorization act has all the wokeness and this is one of the reasons that

00:08:01.280 the bottom's fallen out of their ability to recruit young americans because parents are very concerned

00:08:07.240 about sending their kids uh first off into foreign battlefields like ukraine right to die uh number two

00:08:14.600 is that obviously with everything they're hammering particularly in the south there's a huge drawback

00:08:19.360 in uh in in recruiting in the south and the south is still one of the most significant or not the most

00:08:25.580 significant uh providers of personnel uh for the military and so to stop the defense authorization and

00:08:32.200 to kick that into next year where uh this uh the house and the senate promises they're going to gut

00:08:37.460 all the wokeness uh in their they're going to gut all the wokeness and just um and just focus on the

00:08:43.520 defense officer i also think the defense budget has got to be cut and i'm the biggest advocate of the

00:08:48.100 of the anti-ccp of the anti-ccp um do we have do we have gates is he ready let's go i tell you what

00:08:55.180 i've got this open and i'm gonna come back to it i've got cortez but i gotta go to matt gates uh real

00:09:00.320 quickly congressman gates thank you very much for joining us here i know you're traveling and and really

00:09:05.060 appreciate it uh uh norman congressman norman came out last night and said uh and said he was a gun

00:09:12.460 he was a a hard no on mccarthy i think that's four or five in the calculation walk us through

00:09:19.260 where you stand on on your efforts there sure to catch everyone up last week there were 36 votes

00:09:26.980 against kevin mccarthy in the republican conference and again kevin has had years to try to convince

00:09:33.500 people of the worth of his candidacy since that time zero of those 36 have come out to say you know

00:09:41.960 what i voted against mccarthy previously but i am now prepared to vote for him on the floor zero

00:09:47.740 meanwhile five members which include myself andy biggs bob good matt rosendale and now most recently

00:09:57.020 ralph norman have all come out and said that our no vote on mccarthy is firm it was not just a no vote

00:10:04.300 within the republican conference it is a no vote we intend to carry for the floor to the floor

00:10:09.580 the reason that's significant is because republicans are expected to hold a four seat majority so five

00:10:17.160 of us saying publicly we have no intention of voting for mccarthy we are firm in our opposition to him

00:10:23.440 well that ought to trigger a realization among republicans that we need a consensus candidate we

00:10:30.520 need someone who is more broadly respected throughout the republican conference and we need someone who

00:10:37.120 believes in a bottom-up membership empowered house of representatives a top-down system run by kevin

00:10:45.440 mccarthy is not preferable because we don't like top-down systems but also because you know when

00:10:50.860 conflict arises the human instinct is fight or flight and we have seen time and again that kevin mccarthy

00:11:00.200 chooses flight you know in the days following january 6th he believed that donald trump should resign

00:11:07.720 and when i verbally criticized liz cheney kevin mccarthy said that might have been encouraging

00:11:14.240 violence against people and actually in our country we're smart enough to know that when we engage in

00:11:19.700 discourse and debate and yes sometimes even sharp criticism that doesn't green light violence

00:11:26.420 oftentimes that's what stops a civilized society from devolving into violence i've seen kevin mccarthy's

00:11:33.840 behavior in the majority he was the guy who was always willing to carry the bag for paul ryan

00:11:39.560 when you know it's interesting to see mccarthy go around talking about all the subpoenas he wants to

00:11:44.460 issue because when he was in the majority last when he was the majority leader last he did not utter one

00:11:52.980 word in support of the subpoenas that jim jordan and at the time ronda sanis and mark meadows and i

00:12:00.520 were calling for in the house judiciary committee so you know kevin mccarthy will revert to his

00:12:06.260 establishment mean the moment he gets power and that's why there are enough of us now a critical mass

00:12:13.480 standing as a bulwark against his his ascension to the speakership okay but over the last what 10 days

00:12:22.240 or since the vote i mean it looks like you had this joint press conference you got comer putting

00:12:27.240 up charts about hunter biden we're going to have natalie winters uh and others in here in the second

00:12:33.160 hour to go through that you've got jim jordan coming off the chain on a number of things they're

00:12:37.720 down at the border today they're going to make a special announcement on mayorkas mtg is out there

00:12:42.500 like a precision guided missile uh it looks like it's all fight no flight uh you believe that that's too

00:12:50.040 later are you telling your our audience that that's too late a conversion well it's certainly

00:12:56.680 easy to be in favor of fighting when you're in the minority when the when the bullets aren't real when

00:13:03.800 the rounds aren't live and we saw this in the obamacare discussion where you know kevin mccarthy

00:13:10.460 and paul ryan were willing to put the repeal of obamacare on obama's desk 60 times knowing he would

00:13:17.780 veto it but then when the rounds were live when we were in the majority there was no sense of fight

00:13:23.880 so i'm concerned that as it relates to kevin mccarthy it's all a puppet show for him it's all

00:13:30.520 performative it's not real and that doesn't in any way discount the incredible oversight work that

00:13:36.440 congresswoman green has done that jamie comer has done that we are planning to do in the house

00:13:41.120 judiciary committee but that is not happening because of kevin mccarthy that is happening

00:13:46.240 oftentimes in spite of kevin mccarthy and if you think that this is an optimized republican team

00:13:53.880 now wait till we get a real fighter with real vision at the head of it not someone who has to

00:13:59.920 stick his finger into the air to see which way is the wind blowing before determining where to lead

00:14:04.780 the troops into battle you were oh when you said the 31 and by the way for the audience is following

00:14:10.480 the home the 36 i take it 36 there's 31 no's is the pressure reporting you're saying there's five

00:14:15.920 abstentions no there were 30 there were 188 votes for kevin mccarthy there were 31 votes for andy big

00:14:24.120 and there were five votes for someone else so uh that doesn't you know where i think that's important

00:14:30.520 is that you know there were there's an entire margin of victory for my standpoint in people who voted

00:14:38.340 for neither mccarthy nor big i'd tell you can you just hang on for a second short commercial break

00:14:44.380 matt gates sticks with us on the other side and we got steve cortez and a lot else so hang around

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00:16:23.520 here's your host steven k bannon tuesday 22 november the year of roller 2022 we're now honored to be

00:16:32.460 joined by congressman ralph norman from south carolina five uh congressman norman uh you were

00:16:37.900 on the john solomon show last night made some uh waves by saying that you were a hard no on kevin

00:16:43.680 mccarthy as uh for speaker could you walk us through your thinking on that sir sure well steve first of all

00:16:51.180 uh there's nowhere it's written that only one person can take the mantle of speaker kevin mccarthy has

00:17:00.120 had four years to i guess make the case why he's the best uh to handle the what's going to be a very

00:17:07.440 difficult job speaker of the house is the most powerful position i would argue in the country today

00:17:14.000 particularly as it affects the purse strings which the house controls um he did it with me

00:17:21.360 or i guess this was the the thing that one i didn't understand and two i was shocked when

00:17:28.060 in front of the caucus i said uh kevin would you agree to go with the rsc budget of seven years of

00:17:35.740 balancing the budget which had some severe cuts and uh he just said no and not only is the leader

00:17:43.720 responsible for presenting the plan but just a solid no uh led me to believe he's really not serious

00:17:52.480 about it i'm done with 20-year budgets the american people are done this country's got a cancer and

00:17:58.240 uh aspen's not gonna cure it and do i want mccarthy going in negotiating with uh schumer and uh mccarthy

00:18:07.120 with the powers that be it's just not in him to do it he's a nice man i like him but this country's

00:18:14.660 we've got problems and economic economic security is national security the two go hand in hand and i

00:18:21.360 just don't think he's taking it seriously and it's not business as usual in washington do you think you

00:18:25.800 and i would be having this conversation if the house if we had a 30 to 40 seat margin no it'd just

00:18:33.180 be business as usual and and went on and the great thing about what happened i never thought i'd say

00:18:38.860 this is is a slim majority and you know it's gonna take uh 218 votes and he just doesn't have it

00:18:46.740 and i decided to go ahead and join my others um to to come out uh in the freedom caucus and and others

00:18:53.960 uh just to say no because i think there are other people that would lay out a vision for how we're

00:19:00.080 going to get this country back on track and it's not going to be easy but i just don't think kevin

00:19:04.260 has made the case for it and that's the short and simple reason you know we do a lot of capital

00:19:10.660 markets a lot of economics on here congressman as you know uh steve cortez is going to follow us here

00:19:15.340 uh to talk about that and talk about really they they give this happy talk about a recession maybe

00:19:20.300 maybe not for working class americans we're in a depression right now i mean they're getting

00:19:24.880 hammered you hear this happy talk about the debt ceiling they want to lift it are your constituents

00:19:29.980 telling you that they want somebody finally to draw a hard line up there that this spending because

00:19:35.320 this omnibus bill is going to have a trillion to two trillion dollars unfunded uh discretionary

00:19:40.080 spending are your constituents in south carolina prepared to back you when we have to take the hard

00:19:45.460 measures of going against this kind of radical modern modern monetary theory just print money

00:19:51.300 uh democrats and establishment republicans or did they understand the scale of this crisis sir

00:19:57.240 you know we've always heard i guess for the last year 30 trillion uh in debt you know when you add

00:20:04.400 social security medicaid medicare i would make the arguments more like 60 now your average american

00:20:10.020 that really uh didn't mean that much because it didn't affect them but you ask the constituent

00:20:15.980 whether it's in south carolina or anywhere in this country the what are they feeling in the pocketbook

00:20:22.340 when they go to buy gas what are they feeling uh when they go to buy groceries uh the crime the you

00:20:28.660 know all the above and yes that's why it's sinking in and yes something's got to change and see that the

00:20:34.820 i'm not willing and a lot of others are not willing to say well we've got to have a happy

00:20:41.100 meeting because the senate we can't get it by the senate well i'm not in the senate and we do what we

00:20:46.660 can in the house and i won't and i told kevin this months ago i want a ron de santis type speaker

00:20:53.000 there's only one state that had a red wave and i would make the argument that the reason ron de santis

00:20:58.520 uh is popular and got the support that he did all across the board from school board to

00:21:04.880 house and senate in florida is because he laid out a vision he did what he said and that's what we're

00:21:11.020 going to have to do and you know i just don't think kevin he would have negotiated with us long

00:21:16.600 before now the only reason and he's i just before i went on uh on the call with you he wanted to call

00:21:23.300 a meeting of all of us when we get back on tuesday which i'm fine but the time has passed for him to

00:21:30.660 lay the vision out but the answer to your question is absolutely because they're feeling it they don't

00:21:35.660 can't comprehend a trillion dollars neither can i when you look at what we're uh saddling our children

00:21:42.780 with but uh it's it's now never in my mind and we can't say the biden administration not going to pass

00:21:49.340 they're not going to do anything it's our it's our job to handcuff them as best we can and a new speaker

00:21:54.760 that will fight will do that you you know over the last week since you guys have had this vote you

00:22:00.960 know he's had comers come forward with a pretty aggressive investigations of uh of hunter biden which

00:22:07.320 we're going to get into later in the show you've had jim jordan looks like off the chain on fauci and

00:22:11.700 other things they're at the border today for a photo op to talk about you know stopping the evasion of

00:22:17.460 the southern border has any of the activities of kevin mccarthy since that vote and since you

00:22:23.100 confronted him about the seriousness and by the way the rcs of the republican study committee's

00:22:27.880 uh plan they put out that seven years you actually get to a balanced budget and it does take it's got

00:22:32.780 some severe cuts in discretionary spending has anything happened since that meeting that's led

00:22:39.020 you to believe that maybe it's a wake-up call for mccarthy and maybe i'll be open next tuesday when he

00:22:43.600 comes in and makes his argument sir you know i mean all those things are given steve the the

00:22:50.020 investigations yes and as i told james calmer the other week i said james what i will help you do

00:22:56.280 is let's have consequences let's just don't have the investigation i mean the the evidence is there

00:23:01.760 on hunter biden i think on joe biden the evidence is there but let's let's make sure we can or take the

00:23:08.320 steps to get the legal help to prosecute them uh but there's so many other things i mean and kevin

00:23:15.160 made a great statement about going after you know uh the using the holman rule to defund the 85 000 rsh

00:23:23.140 just that's you know we can that's that's a given but i kind of considered that if if and i'm a real

00:23:30.080 estate developer if a house is on fire uh somebody tell me they're going to move the shrubs and take the

00:23:36.060 algae out of the pool how are you going to put the fire out in the house that's the thing i'm

00:23:40.540 concerned about our military is at the lowest has ever been the mandatory spending is now over 71

00:23:48.220 percent military is down i think to 14 to 15 percent we just if you're broke you can't do anything and i

00:23:55.440 made a pledge that i wasn't sent to congress to bankrupt it and with kevin mccarthy i think he will do

00:24:01.660 you know if i'm wrong and if he gets it uh he'll do the obvious but you know where is he on section 230

00:24:09.760 taking out big tech on uh what they did to you and others i mean how's he gonna fight that we should

00:24:15.340 have had a plan and there's no different than if i pledge you to build your house i think you got a

00:24:20.740 right to ask me what kind of house give me your vision give me the blueprints he has not done that

00:24:25.100 and the time is gone for that and that's why i came out when i did congressman norman people are going

00:24:31.080 to want to follow you very closely do you know your social media or the website that people go to

00:24:35.980 they find out more about you more about your constituents and more about your policy positions

00:24:40.460 yes rep ralph norman.com rep ralph norman.com we'll get it up on all of our chat rooms and on the site

00:24:48.860 congressman norman thank you for taking time away from your busy schedule to join us today

00:24:52.840 my pleasure thank you steve thank you sir let me bring in steve cortez uh brother cortez or have

00:25:00.640 cortez brother cortez um i think congressman norman let's leave the mccarthy that's for

00:25:07.260 people to decide i want the audience to jump in here but certainly about the hard this is what i

00:25:11.660 keep saying all the easy decisions are in back of us about the hard decisions regarding uh about the

00:25:17.560 hard decisions regarding the the financial uh crisis of the country congressman norman's dead spot on is

00:25:24.420 he not sir no he certainly is and uh look and i believe that kevin mccarthy is not the lion that

00:25:31.040 we need right now to rise to that occasion and i say that based on the evidence of his past behavior

00:25:36.480 you know congressman gates mentioned how he betrayed president trump following jan 6 when things were tough

00:25:42.920 for the president tough for the maga movement he secretly conspired with liz cheney to try to force

00:25:48.280 president trump prematurely from office he then later lied about it and got caught in that lie by rachel

00:25:53.260 maddow somebody i don't praise very often but she did a great service for the country by outing him

00:25:58.340 through investigative journalism and producing the receipts that he lied about that uh he also let's

00:26:03.120 go to on the record stuff he believes of course in in escalating the war in ukraine which has been

00:26:07.500 disastrous not just for our national security but also for our economic security and by the way speaking

00:26:12.680 of economic security here's another reason i think we can't trust kevin mccarthy is his extremely

00:26:17.860 close professional relationship with frank luntz and not just that but his personal relationship

00:26:22.660 with frank luntz they're actually roommates which i find to be beyond strange or they were at one time

00:26:27.500 anyway frank luntz is the exact opposite of our movement's insistence on promoting the prerogatives

00:26:33.800 of working class americans he is literally a stooge of the ruling class he is in many ways

00:26:39.020 their media mouthpiece and he is extremely close professionally and personally with kevin mccarthy

00:26:44.580 we get all of that taken in totality tells me there is no way that this man can rise to the

00:26:49.200 occasion to be the lion we need to start healing this nation particularly when the house of

00:26:53.280 representatives right now in washington dc is the only lever that we have now it's a huge lever

00:26:57.860 very significant lever but right now it's our only lever okay so we cannot entrust the house

00:27:03.060 to speaker mccarthy in my view and i think both gates and norman they are both patriots they are smart

00:27:09.060 congressmen and they're right here and believe me this story is far from over steve

00:27:12.740 no no what about norman's hey when i asked kevin he's going to balance the budget and look the rcs

00:27:19.560 budget is a tough budget gets you there in seven years he just said no outright and he's looking

00:27:24.300 for somebody he knows that you're going to have to have these massive fights on appropriation does he

00:27:28.460 not uh steve cortez he does because he knows what time it is in america right now not just politically

00:27:33.680 but financially in an era of rising interest rates so this country got addicted to low interest rates

00:27:38.940 that uh that lasted for far too long because of what the federal reserve and the rest of permanent

00:27:43.120 washington did to the country suppressing interest rates artificially and the reality is we because

00:27:49.720 those rates were artificially low steve we were able to get away with things that we can no longer

00:27:53.680 get away with now yeah uh steve can you hang on for one second steve cortez joins us by phone we got

00:27:59.520 some charts to go through dave wash gonna join us on energy over in egypt we agreed to reparations and

00:28:06.180 we pointed the finger at china and guess what no respect absolutely got our face ripped off

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00:29:41.180 war room here's your host steven k back okay welcome back uh matt gates now joins us uh matt real quickly

00:29:53.040 congressman norman uh his issue is that understanding the financial crisis the country's in and only going

00:30:00.700 to get worse particularly on spending out of control spending the debts and everything like that he

00:30:04.660 doesn't think kevin mccarthy has really because the question he asked him in the conference doesn't

00:30:09.820 think that he's really committed to having to stand up to the not just radical democrats but even the

00:30:16.540 establishment republicans that just want to keep this madness of this massive spending the omnibus bill this

00:30:21.860 time is going to be what a trillion three and a half two trillion dollars and and norman brings a good

00:30:26.360 point up we never talk about it that it's 31 trillion dollars a face amount of debt it's nine

00:30:30.900 and a half trillion over at the at the uh at the treasury gets you to afford and he thinks there's

00:30:35.820 another 20 30 trillion dollars of of basically hard obligations in front of you for the uh for social

00:30:42.540 security medicaid and medicare so um it was very much of a hard no i want to ask you why we got you

00:30:50.400 though about the special counsel the special counsel there's been a lot of information put up by mike

00:30:54.400 davis paul sperry over the new york post about uh his wife is a radical trump hater not just a supporter

00:31:02.860 anybody can support other candidates but i mean she's a virulent hater of donald trump is that not

00:31:09.440 such a conflict that he's got to recuse himself i mean how can he go forward to special counsel

00:31:13.940 knowing his wife is is one of the leaders in the not never trump but the pure out hate trump movement

00:31:20.640 steve you have to wonder whether or not at the department of justice they even

00:31:25.620 check these things or if the buy-in is actually the point let's remember this is an appointment of a

00:31:31.880 special counsel that is explicitly political in his announcement of the appointment merrick garland

00:31:38.880 said i am doing this because donald trump has announced that he is running for president again

00:31:44.220 and because joe biden has indicated his intention to run for president again and so you would

00:31:49.980 think that if the stated purpose to avoid any type of concern about bias or sincere that they would at

00:31:59.640 least check to see whether or not when you shake the family tree of the special counsel any virulent

00:32:06.220 trump haters never trumpers biden supporters fall out and this is deja vu all over again because of

00:32:13.700 course we saw muller assemble a team that had very well demonstrated bias against president trump

00:32:20.380 one has to wonder if we shouldn't address this legislatively so that in the future whether it's

00:32:25.620 republicans or democrats being investigated you don't have the very people in the throes of the

00:32:31.820 political conflict trying to migrate their political grievance into the criminal justice process that's

00:32:38.820 what we see in the poorest third world countries on the planet earth it's not what we should be seeing

00:32:45.100 in the united states of america but i don't want to sit around hand wringing and bedwetting over this

00:32:50.920 i think we ought to use the power of the purse to defund this explicitly political exercise against

00:32:57.000 president trump so you're saying if if merrick garland doesn't do the proper thing and just

00:33:02.460 remove smith uh or if smith doesn't do the honorable thing and recuse himself because of his bias and his

00:33:09.420 wife's obviously hatred hatred trump you're saying that the the house ought to throw down hard and just

00:33:15.420 defund the entire thing correct of course because there is no rhyme or reason to this how can you say

00:33:23.120 that we have to have a special counsel any special counsel to go after trump because of politics and

00:33:29.620 the need to separate the department of justice from this decision making when you've got hunter biden

00:33:34.920 committing documented crimes and you've got the white house chief of staff ron quain saying oh of course

00:33:43.880 joe biden doesn't believe his son has committed any crimes so i mean there is no standard here that

00:33:50.860 would hold up to any reasonable objective scrutiny about even the appointment of the special counsel

00:33:56.600 then you get into the specifics of who the person is and another thing i noted that's very different

00:34:02.640 from typical justice department practice there is such a focus on haste here and the timing i mean in

00:34:09.500 merrick garland's announcement he said over and over again how he wanted this to be done promptly and he

00:34:15.440 wanted this to be done quickly and usually the justice department actually takes pride in how

00:34:20.400 judicious they are how they review potential defenses get all the evidence and then in jack

00:34:26.160 smith's statement that he put out he talks about how the investigation will not in any way suffer a delay

00:34:33.300 under him and there seems to be a calculation based on a political clock not based on the review of the

00:34:42.600 facts and the law and evidence uh and it just sinks to high heaven so yeah if the department of justice

00:34:49.060 wants to play these games we should not sit idly by as america is like converted into rwanda instead

00:34:57.080 we ought to fight back with the power of the purse that's what the people have given us and i'm far more

00:35:02.980 concerned about the well i guess the categorizing derogatory about hunter biden is russian disinformation

00:35:12.740 than i am about whatever dispute president trump is in with the archivist

00:35:17.280 matt uh gates how do people follow you on social media where they go

00:35:22.880 at matt gates at rep matt gates we're on getter we're on twitter we're on truth social and uh we're

00:35:30.840 we're spitting the truth and we're going to hold this corrupt regime accountable

00:35:34.160 councillor gates thank you very much for joining us appreciate it thank you let me go back to state

00:35:41.660 i've got cortez i got dave walsh michael patrick lay he's going to join us we got a lot we're going

00:35:45.500 to go to arizona a lot to get through but we're going to get there first off cortez uh your your

00:35:51.100 thoughts of the special counsel and particularly the mrs special counsel looks like an abundance of just

00:35:57.920 pure trump hate right you agree with do you agree with the gates that we got to defund it or should

00:36:03.320 garland uh should garland fire the guy or should the guy recuse himself what what's the best option

00:36:09.480 clearly it can't go forward like this this is impossible right and the democrats are on notice

00:36:14.520 it's impossible we're not going to stand for this kind of crap this is what you did for for the

00:36:19.300 russia gate thing it's just more nonsense and people have had a belly full of it okay so your

00:36:23.400 thoughts cortez no 100 and by the way this just further uh you know embodies and reveals to the

00:36:29.320 public the intense systemic corruption of permanent washington the fact that they they thought they

00:36:35.580 could pass this over on us right i mean it's insane uh and so if he has any honor he'll recuse

00:36:40.520 himself not holding my breath garland should fire him again not holding my breath which means that the

00:36:45.480 power of the purse again this lever that i talked about previously the lever of power that we have because

00:36:50.020 we earned it winning over the gavel from nancy pelosi the house of representatives it must be

00:36:54.320 used because this is a second sham special counsel and it's not by the way just his wife's conflicts

00:37:00.040 we also look at his own past as a prosecutor particularly related to bob mcdonald the former

00:37:04.740 governor of virginia that was an absolute witch hunt prosecution and i wasn't a fan of bob mcdonald much

00:37:10.560 more of an establishment republican you know not my taste politically but the point is he was persecuted

00:37:15.800 for political reasons because he was starting to gain currency among national republicans in the

00:37:20.800 country and he went after him with a political witch hunt he weaponized a prosecution that was later

00:37:26.240 overturned nine to zero at the supreme court a rarity you don't see that very often but that's how

00:37:32.520 out of bounds jack smith was in his persecution of bob mcdonald why would we not believe that he's going

00:37:38.500 to do the same thing against donald trump when if anything him he he certainly has far more personal

00:37:45.140 vitriol toward trump than he did versus mcdonald yeah and the wife she knows he's guilty as hell

00:37:50.620 she she she's hiding she took down our social media put it back up i mean we went to the way back

00:37:55.800 machine we got you dead to rights but put it back up you guys are so tough talking and all this and as

00:38:00.980 soon as they as soon as they put the spotlight on they run like cockroaches right put your social

00:38:05.960 if you hate trump put it back up what are you hiding for we're gonna out everything about you people go

00:38:11.900 ahead sir the other thing is garland just simply doesn't have the guts right to do this prosecution

00:38:16.920 himself because if he believes in it he should this is not the the intent at all of the special

00:38:22.240 counsel statute that would be if he were investigating biden okay his exactly that's when the special

00:38:28.020 counsel is called for so for example investigating the hunter laptop and how it leads to the big guy

00:38:33.320 joe biden that is the appropriate use of a special counsel there's no conflict here he doesn't work

00:38:37.760 for trump he doesn't answer to trump quite the opposite in fact he's incredibly antagonistic

00:38:42.180 toward trump uh so if he had any guts he actually would issue this indictment himself he doesn't and

00:38:47.920 he's trying to create distance i think largely because he fears people like matt gates who are

00:38:52.060 suddenly going to come into power uh subpoena power you know particularly when it comes to the

00:38:56.340 new incoming house garland's on the on the watch list for impeachment trust me garland's going to get

00:39:01.820 impeached and if they force him to resign or have biden firing before he gets removed from office but

00:39:06.820 you know for a guy that his reputation was everything we're going to tear your reputation

00:39:11.760 apart because wait for it you suck okay i hate to let me just cut to the chase cortez um to ralph

00:39:20.780 norman's about his constituents and i want you to go you get a magnificent article you connect out to

00:39:26.480 ukraine i mean they're up there talking about 37 billion dollars but that's just that's just the

00:39:31.340 that's just the beginning the the russians have destroyed as you said they're going to do all their

00:39:35.740 infrastructure so now they're going to come back it's going to be 200 billion dollars a year to

00:39:39.380 keep them just afloat that doesn't include the reconstruction which they're saying 750 billion

00:39:45.100 to a trillion right and that's their opening number so it'll be three times that plus that didn't include

00:39:49.420 the military part we're just talking about how you how you fund the operations because now you got an

00:39:53.700 entire failed nation brought about because reasonable heads didn't get together and now zelinski

00:40:00.260 because he fears the republicans and quite frankly the maga movement is going to say no not a penny

00:40:05.680 now all of a sudden he's prepared to try to negotiate but but you you've done a brilliant

00:40:10.900 job of comparing and contrasting the ukraine fiasco to how it's impacting ordinary americans

00:40:17.000 take it away sir yes so and i have a brand new article up on this on substack you know we came very

00:40:22.520 close last week to a new russian missile crisis you know only this one didn't involve actual soviet

00:40:28.460 missiles and it wasn't 90 miles away this one is 5 000 miles away and in fact the missiles that hit

00:40:33.640 poland were from ukraine not from russia um and yet zelinski tried to goad and shame nato into getting

00:40:41.640 into a kinetic shooting war with russia over this scam this idea these missiles in fact came from

00:40:47.740 russia uh thankfully cooler heads quickly prevailed and both poland as well as nato have contradicted

00:40:53.520 zelinski who still has refused to back down by the way has not apologized has not even recognized

00:40:58.180 that his inflammatory incendiary rhetoric that is trying to get the united states into world war

00:41:03.540 three was a complete lie they were his missiles and it was either incompetence or him doing something

00:41:10.260 even more sinister right trying to actually create um a reason a pretext to get the united states in the

00:41:15.500 war but regardless what i do in the article is contrast the amount of money that we have spent there

00:41:19.800 and i think a lot of folks don't realize just how big it already is and it can become and contrast

00:41:24.600 that with the plight of working class americans right now and steve you sent me an article uh which

00:41:29.720 opened my eyes even as pessimistic as i've been on the economy right now in america the median worker

00:41:36.180 to afford the median price department needs to work 63 hours a week an all-time high not a 40-hour work

00:41:44.360 week no it is time and a half and then a few more hours on top of that if you work a five-day week

00:41:50.300 you need to work from eight in the morning till eight at night just to afford a median priced

00:41:56.300 apartment forget about luxuries in life forget about having dependents by the way about perhaps

00:42:00.740 having uh several children and perhaps a stay-at-home spouse okay that's just to pay the bare necessities

00:42:06.040 so at this time when americans have to work literally time and a half to afford the necessities

00:42:11.500 of life we have shoveled over 50 billion dollars so far to ukraine if biden gets what he wants in this

00:42:18.860 lame duck session we will get to over 90 billion dollars just in this calendar year for ukraine

00:42:25.060 to put that in context steve that is twice as much as we spent on average in the american war

00:42:30.620 in afghanistan okay that disastrous two decade long adventure as costly as that was in human terms

00:42:37.520 certainly and also in treasure uh it was not costly compared to what we are doing in ukraine that's the

00:42:43.880 scale of the spending right now and the american people need to realize that need to demand and

00:42:48.800 this lame duck session no new spending on ukraine and then when the incoming uh republican house

00:42:54.320 takes control not only no new spending on ukraine but demanding that zelensky and and kiev and moscow

00:43:01.400 get to the negotiating table and i actually proposed in my article and i'm not just being funny here

00:43:05.860 although there is some humor to it who would be better than to lead those negotiations how about

00:43:10.620 the peace president how about donald j trump let's take a short commercial break i get dave walsh

00:43:16.940 steve cortez we got a finish with steve cortez uh i want to talk about that 63 hours 63 hours just

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00:45:26.160 okay uh steve cortez about this being a depression for the american people walk me through that sir

00:45:33.360 yes and particularly for working class folks most working class people don't buy new cars particularly

00:45:38.820 in this environment they buy used cars and i want to show a couple of charts if we can go to the

00:45:43.760 first slide chart one which is a headline from the wall street journal talking about the firm

00:45:48.400 carvana carvana is in particular trouble okay and it has some company specific problems because it took

00:45:54.000 on so much debt but even though it's the most egregious example it is hardly the only example

00:45:58.760 of a company that is being punished by these twin forces these twin headwinds of rising interest

00:46:05.220 rates making the debt unsustainable and then also cratering demand for used cars because working

00:46:10.420 class people have been so imperiled by this biden inflation so if we can go to chart number two

00:46:15.660 to prove my point that it's not carvana specific only carvana is the worst example it has lost

00:46:20.660 97 of its value in the last year i also put carmax up there to show a company that is it seems to be in

00:46:28.760 better shape financially but it's still absolutely flailing as far as its stock price carmax is down

00:46:34.280 55 percent over the last year so the trend in both of them while it's worse than carvana the trend in

00:46:40.360 both of them is demonstrably from the upper left to the lower right for those who can see the charts and

00:46:45.960 my point here is the used car market is an absolute free fall let's stop with the academic debates about

00:46:52.000 whether or not we're in recession we are in a very deep recession for working class americans a recession

00:46:58.020 that is teetering on the edge of a depression if we don't start to take action and that's the reality

00:47:03.520 that's what what regular working class americans are living with at the same time again just hearkening

00:47:08.600 back to the last segment at the same time that we're sending tens of billions of dollars over to

00:47:13.220 zelensky so he can try to goad us into world war three you're a hard no on you would tell these guys

00:47:18.820 coming back in the lame duck you're a hard no the american people you're a hard no on any additional

00:47:23.220 support for ukraine let europe deal it deal with that and let's zelensky get to the table and and get

00:47:28.400 this thing put to bed correct basically your bottom line on this 100 the answer is zero thank you

00:47:37.100 steve cortez your stuff up on sub stacks amazing how do people get to all your different content

00:47:41.740 yeah please see my new article uh you can find me at getter's the best place i'm at steve

00:47:46.500 i'm also on twitter at cortez steve cortez with an ass steve thank you very much taking time away

00:47:51.980 from the holidays thanks sir thank you okay we got a lot to get to we're gonna get michael patrick

00:47:57.580 lay with the arizona paper he started he's going to join us about every all these counties things up

00:48:03.140 to four counties now saying they're not prepared to certify the election out there they're going to

00:48:07.240 delay it to next week to see what maricopa does and answering the response to the attorney general

00:48:10.960 but i want to stay in economics and in particularly in energy uh dave walsh you've done an amazing job

00:48:17.340 on on all this but the guardian has a uh the guardian has an article up that says that after the united

00:48:24.540 states drove the reparations discussion and set up the framework hoping it would get us allies to say

00:48:30.660 hey you're such good guys and you're really you know john kerry and joe biden you're you're really

00:48:35.300 uh feeling and you're in your you know you really embrace uh you know you really embrace us and yes

00:48:41.460 isn't china bad the ccp's bad the exact opposite happened no love just mockery and they're just

00:48:48.960 saying hey this is just the start of uh of something massive you actually quoted yesterday that it's four

00:48:55.440 to seven trillion dollars a year you where did you pull that out from dave walsh that's been reported

00:49:00.780 in the indian media in a very detailed uh analysis of the weekend negotiations by the committee

00:49:08.360 the committee that's working on kicking the can down the road to next year's cop meeting to finalize

00:49:14.000 how this is going to work as the articulated implementation required per annum for this to

00:49:21.060 be effective is four to six trillion per year in reparations or loss and damage funding to the

00:49:28.000 nations that have been damaged that's their target that emerged according to indian news reports in

00:49:33.380 the negotiations on sunday it's huge it's huge and of course to this article today by the guardian

00:49:39.400 yeah of course when 120 to 130 nations in the world would be happy recipients of that kind of money

00:49:46.460 from western europe and north america of course they're going to be clamoring that we were disingenuous

00:49:52.400 in bringing this up in the first place and then wanting china to participate china who

00:49:56.900 emits 30 percent of the world co2 if it matters and we need to get to that because we're we're

00:50:03.140 missing the key point here this this whole discussion is a bogus one at the core at the science core

00:50:08.580 but china emits 30 percent of the globe co2 all of the eeu 28 nations plus the u.s and japan emit

00:50:15.340 about 27 percent of it so china is if we're really going to worry about this china put an override on the

00:50:22.520 cost of your exports we we have a net balance of trade negative with china half a half a tree in a

00:50:28.460 year go ahead and put a price adder on those to cover cleaning up your coal plants do that the wto

00:50:34.620 would be supportive of that wto has all kinds of regulations on fair trade and on fair contracting

00:50:41.180 between countries if indeed you're polluting badly and you need to have an override in cost to go ahead

00:50:47.160 and pay for the scrubbers and the back end environmental controls on your power plants

00:50:51.480 please do that with the money you receive for imports for exports rather they're importing here

00:50:56.660 half a tree in a year in product over what we export to them put an override in price to pay for this if

00:51:02.380 it's a problem they've got the resources to do it they've clearly got the resources to do it

00:51:07.100 that's a you know if this is an issue and they deem it to be one that's how it should be funded

00:51:10.800 price price for it price for it and do it yourself hang on and so you have price discovery but

00:51:16.720 correct me if i'm wrong china has not changed one item they do a little happy talk but they

00:51:23.860 haven't changed one item in their industrial plant and how they how they provide energy to that

00:51:29.860 manufacturing industrial powerhouse whereas the west does backflips you got all this madness with

00:51:35.900 the biden administration it's one of the reasons that we're in this right so we change radically

00:51:40.080 they've got the the third world nations are going to have these programs and never let them get to

00:51:45.120 really development yet china keeps rolling this is the problem with the paris accord how did biden

00:51:51.820 in these radical cult of climate folks get into this jam dave brett or dave walsh

00:51:58.180 well i think i mean we've documented in this forum pretty pretty effectively that they've been paid

00:52:04.840 in part for their privilege through hunter's conduit of funding to to his father over time to be

00:52:11.380 heavily influenced by their positions but of course we've got the a huge amount of our commercial

00:52:17.440 enterprise in big tech and the media also china is a huge customer for them they get very they get

00:52:24.700 very shifted by that funds flow to siding with their positioning on things because the actual fact

00:52:30.020 for example on coal-fired generation xi jinping has been at 59 percent of his total mix has promised to get

00:52:35.940 58 and hold that percentage for the next 15 years that implies nine percent per year growth in coal

00:52:41.920 fire to power generation he said he's going to increase it dave just hang over a second it's so sick

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Bannon's War Room - November 23, 2022

Episode 2320： What Lies In Store WithThe House And Kevin McCarthy

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