Bannon's War Room - Episode 2402：： Title 42 To Be Lifted And The Surge Continues

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:26.000 Mega media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 Warwick. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.000 The Supreme Court is set to decide whether to lift or keep in place the border policy known as Title IV

00:00:57.000 as Title 42 enacted during the height of the pandemic.

00:01:00.000 It allows border officials to deny asylum seekers entry into the United States due to public health concerns.

00:01:06.000 It was set to expire last Wednesday before Chief Justice John Roberts issued a stay on the expiration pending a final decision.

00:01:14.000 The Biden administration has asked Chief Justice Roberts to rule against the challenge issued by GOP led states to keep Title 42 in place,

00:01:22.000 arguing the public health rationale is no longer valid.

00:01:25.000 Meanwhile, the developing situation at the border is being described by some as a crisis with multiple border towns and cities overwhelmed by the influx of migrants.

00:01:35.000 In El Paso, Texas alone, as many as five thousand migrants per day are anticipated to enter.

00:01:42.000 Title 42 put in place by the Trump administration during the height of the pandemic.

00:01:46.000 The Biden White House does want it to end, but not quite yet.

00:01:50.000 There's a suggestion that they weren't ready.

00:01:51.000 They pushed for this stay, which will get an answer potentially as soon as today for its future.

00:01:57.000 Senior White House aides acknowledged to me that it's going to be very difficult at the border for at least a few weeks after this lifts.

00:02:06.000 What are you when you look at these images from El Paso?

00:02:09.000 How does it make what does it make you think?

00:02:11.000 You know, there's the moral side, moral and ethical side of this.

00:02:14.000 And there's the political side of this. The political side is pretty easy.

00:02:17.000 The White House needs to message this question, message this issue better, particularly with regards to Latino community, Latino voters.

00:02:24.000 Right. If they don't get this right, it's going to it's going to have a political impact, I think, in interesting and serious ways.

00:02:30.000 Morally and ethically, we have to get this issue right.

00:02:35.000 I mean, remember the coal street? I mean, there was a coal spell in El Paso.

00:02:40.000 These folks were experiencing extraordinarily difficult weather.

00:02:44.000 And then there is a sense in which our immigration policy oftentimes feels so cruel because it's so patchwork.

00:02:51.000 We need to figure this out.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, we don't need a patchwork.

00:02:56.000 Just say no.

00:02:57.000 The game in the asylum system.

00:02:59.000 It's Tuesday, 27 December, year of our Lord, 2022.

00:03:02.000 There is a lot going on in the world on this kind of holiday week.

00:03:08.000 We're going to be here every day with the starting team because there's so much going on, whether that's in the Ukraine, whether it's in Taiwan and the South China Sea on Capitol Hill or actually dispersed.

00:03:21.000 Nobody's here. Nobody's in D.C., but are very few in D.C.

00:03:25.000 The two power struggles for the Speaker of the House goes on unabated and also for the head of the RNC.

00:03:31.000 Also, to make sure that this audience knows you're always ahead of the curve, what they're talking about is the debt ceiling because the debt ceiling could be the instrument we use to start to set things right on this horrific omnibus bill.

00:03:45.000 But we've got to start because tonight could be the night on Title 42.

00:03:51.000 The invasion of our nation continues.

00:03:54.000 And the guy to sit there and go the moral and ethical.

00:03:58.000 It's such a patchwork.

00:03:59.000 Actually, the asylum laws are pretty straightforward.

00:04:03.000 This is all it's not about there.

00:04:05.000 There is no system set up for economic asylum.

00:04:09.000 Otherwise, in an eight billion person world, you'd have four billion people who logically say, hey, maybe I'd like to try it in the United States of America.

00:04:18.000 That's not how it works. But that's why we have this really humanitarian crisis on the border created by the Biden regime in conjunction with their partners, the cartels.

00:04:28.000 Let's get Todd Bensman. Todd, thank you for joining us so soon after after Christmas in the 12 days of Christmas.

00:04:37.000 And thank you for being here.

00:04:39.000 What's your assessment tonight could be the night when the when the Supreme Court?

00:04:43.000 I think they just it's not that Biden's not ready.

00:04:46.000 They they have a processing center.

00:04:48.000 All this they're not ready is a lie.

00:04:50.000 They're just processing illegal aliens into the country because they want their votes. 1.00

00:04:55.000 So it has nothing to do with this.

00:04:57.000 I think Roberts just want to get through Christmas.

00:05:00.000 Am I wrong in that?

00:05:01.000 That's why this could come down tonight, sir.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, the December 21 date was, you know, offered by the Biden administration.

00:05:09.000 Nobody knows why they picked four days before Christmas where thousands of contractors and federal workers would have to work double time away from their families.

00:05:20.000 So I do think that this thing was all sort of like mishmashed legally to push it past the holidays.

00:05:27.000 So I do believe 42 is going to go away if not tonight or tomorrow. 0.98

00:05:33.000 But, you know, very soon it's going to go away.

00:05:36.000 But in any case, the new numbers are out border apprehensions.

00:05:40.000 And they were Title 42 in the lowest number ever since Trump put it in at thirty one percent of people that crossed the border.

00:05:50.000 They've been reducing and reducing and reducing the number anyway.

00:05:54.000 So it's down to a rump Title 42 as it is.

00:05:59.000 When that finally goes away, spigots will all be on wide open.

00:06:04.000 And just like you said, Stephen, is, you know, the system is in place to bring everybody in and make sure they all get to a city near you, to your city.

00:06:15.000 That'll be happening right.

00:06:17.000 It's already happening right now.

00:06:19.000 What's as we see the as we see the by the way, the video there on the on the screen right now, you can see is absolutely horrendous.

00:06:29.000 What's happening in El Paso right now shows you one time because Title 42 has essentially been ripped, ripped off.

00:06:36.000 That bandage has been ripped off the wound down in El Paso.

00:06:40.000 Correct. We're seeing owners that they're just cutting there.

00:06:43.000 And here you've got to understand something.

00:06:45.000 And this is for all the big talk of Abbott and the guys in Texas.

00:06:49.000 They're just walking in.

00:06:50.000 You know, we built a wall, right?

00:06:52.000 Our wall went all the way from the Rio Grande right where the Rio Grande stops being the border all the way where it goes.

00:06:58.000 And, you know, it's two thousand miles to the Pacific Ocean.

00:07:01.000 That first mile or two thirds of a mile, whatever is straight up that mountain.

00:07:05.000 We built the wall.

00:07:06.000 We built that water.

00:07:07.000 They said it couldn't be built.

00:07:08.000 Army Corps of Engineers.

00:07:09.000 We built it to stop the cartels.

00:07:10.000 There is a fence down at the bottom that literally gets you to the Rio Grande River.

00:07:16.000 OK, they've taken the gate and they've and this is the officials.

00:07:21.000 The Biden officials have actually put a big chain and open the gate and chain the gate.

00:07:27.000 So the the the the wall still works somewhat from the cartel smuggling the kids in up top.

00:07:34.000 But the rest of it just coming in where they've opened and they've chained it open.

00:07:37.000 So you can't you can't close it.

00:07:39.000 This is how thought through it is.

00:07:41.000 But Title 42 is essentially gone in El Paso.

00:07:43.000 Am I correct when I see these images?

00:07:45.000 Yes.

00:07:46.000 The people who previously were subject to Title 42 in Juarez, that would be the Hondurans, the Salvadorans, the Guatemalans.

00:07:56.000 Typically, those people now are just coming over anyway.

00:08:01.000 And those are the ones we're seeing on the streets and the buses completely illegal.

00:08:06.000 They haven't been processed.

00:08:07.000 Most of them yet.

00:08:08.000 They still have their shoelaces.

00:08:10.000 That's how you can tell that they haven't been processed.

00:08:14.000 So those people have just said screw Title 42, whether it's in place or not.

00:08:19.000 Deal with us.

00:08:20.000 But what you're not seeing is a crisis of runners in that in that sector.

00:08:27.000 Just in the last three weeks alone, I have sources down there telling me that that they estimate 30,000 runners in the last three weeks.

00:08:37.000 Further down the line, they're cutting through the fence, the older fence, the Bush era fence, because there are no Border Patrol agents anywhere to be found.

00:08:48.000 They're all gone processing.

00:08:50.000 So you can see by helicopter and by Texas DPS, you can see them just pouring through these holes that they cut and the old fence just pouring through and running through bonsai rushing.

00:09:05.000 It's truly catastrophic in the El Paso sector.

00:09:09.000 But we're starting to hear very similar stories in Tijuana over across from California and in other places, too.

00:09:18.000 And so you're going to start to see more of just this kind of crazy bonsai rush in the next couple of days here.

00:09:25.000 And then it's just on spigots will be on to let people know this is not Steve Bannon lighting his hair on fire.

00:09:34.000 The war room audience, you know, running around the Biden administration.

00:09:40.000 He can't make this up on Friday night, the night before the Christmas weekend on the eve of Christmas Eve.

00:09:51.000 We had a Friday night dump late.

00:09:53.000 What did they do on Friday night, Todd Bensman?

00:09:55.000 And this shows you this shows you how purely evil they are and how much how afraid of these numbers they are for the American people actually understand what's going on.

00:10:05.000 What did they do on Friday night, sir?

00:10:07.000 First of all, the monthly release of apprehension data happens on the 15th.

00:10:12.000 That's just the day that they've been doing it for two years, except for two times.

00:10:18.000 They delayed it.

00:10:19.000 The first time was past the midterm election balloting.

00:10:24.000 They didn't want those out then, so they pushed it to until it was over.

00:10:28.000 And then they they released, you know, the numbers.

00:10:32.000 And then here they pushed it right to Christmas Eve on purpose.

00:10:37.000 This is classic, you know, public relations stunt kind of stuff.

00:10:42.000 You know, send bad news out just before the big weekend, the big holiday weekend, save it for that.

00:10:49.000 So they did that.

00:10:50.000 And there's a good reason it's because the numbers were, again, two hundred and six thousand apprehensions at the border.

00:10:59.000 The numbers are like four hundred and twelve thousand for just the first the last two months, October and November.

00:11:07.000 That number is greater than entire years past going all the way back to like two thousand.

00:11:16.000 That's how big those numbers are.

00:11:18.000 So, of course, they're they're going to, you know, put it out there at a time.

00:11:22.000 And give me that one more time, October and November.

00:11:27.000 Remember, folks, also, November, November had the greatest budget deficit in the history of this country.

00:11:33.000 Two hundred and fifty billion dollars with imploding tax revenues.

00:11:38.000 Two hundred fifty billion dollars in that month in October, November.

00:11:43.000 We're big.

00:11:44.000 What was the total number and compared to other years?

00:11:47.000 How does it compare?

00:11:49.000 Well, just the just those two months alone exceeds the total annual apprehension numbers, you know, for 2011, 2012, 2013, 2004.

00:12:03.000 You know, that's a, you know, more than we typically have in an annual and in a bad year that we used to consider bad coming through just in like two months.

00:12:13.000 And you ain't seen nothing yet.

00:12:15.000 And also, you know, I'm not counting the gotaways.

00:12:19.000 You have to tack on another hundred and fifty thousand gotaways on those two months.

00:12:25.000 We're looking at seventy thousand gotaways in each of those months that we know of.

00:12:32.000 Remember, I told you we just in the last three weeks have had thirty thousand in the El Paso sector alone in three weeks.

00:12:40.000 But just do some math for the four hundred thousand that came across.

00:12:47.000 Right.

00:12:48.000 And had a touch.

00:12:49.000 How many of the four hundred thousand were released into this country, sir?

00:12:53.000 Approximately.

00:12:54.000 Approximately seventy percent of them.

00:12:58.000 You have to say it's about seventy percent of those.

00:13:01.000 Let's say let's say three hundred thousand of that and one hundred fifty thousand gotaways got away.

00:13:06.000 That's for almost almost five hundred thousand roughly.

00:13:10.000 And I'm rounding up a tad five hundred thousand illegal aliens in the country.

00:13:16.000 But three hundred thousand with cell phones and in in food stamp cards and all that and processed into a city near you.

00:13:26.000 And the other hundred fifty thousand just in and wandering around.

00:13:29.000 Right.

00:13:30.000 Yeah.

00:13:31.000 Or or they're in Mexico just waiting.

00:13:33.000 There are thousands and thousands.

00:13:36.000 Every shelter on the Mexican border is filled right now with people waiting.

00:13:42.000 Actually, they're going to wait.

00:13:43.000 Some of people are going to wait for title forty two to disappear.

00:13:46.000 And of that four hundred of that four hundred fifty thousand, though, that we figure either.

00:13:51.000 How many of that what percentage that would be unaccompanied minors?

00:13:54.000 Roughly ten percent is a ten percent or is it more?

00:13:57.000 I don't know.

00:13:59.000 I could have looked that up.

00:14:00.000 I mean, it's I mean, they don't necessarily have to be unaccompanied anymore.

00:14:05.000 You know, the unaccompanied minor crisis was from a time when the administration was still doing about sixty percent title forty two and the other forty percent were accompanied minors.

00:14:20.000 But now it kind of doesn't matter if you're coming in with your family.

00:14:24.000 You're just going to wait around for a few days and you're in.

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00:16:45.000 So, Todd, this thing is, it's not a mess either.

00:16:48.000 Remember, the Biden administration, the regime wants an invasion of this country.

00:16:53.000 Okay?

00:16:54.000 They want an invasion of this country.

00:16:56.000 And they're getting their invasion.

00:16:57.000 So all this is kind of happy talk and misdirection play.

00:17:00.000 We've got rules.

00:17:02.000 By the way, in the omnibus that Lindsey Graham and, remember, 18 Republican senators, 15 of whom, I want to just make sure you go, were endorsed by President Trump, 15 of them, including his mini-me, Lindsey Graham, voted for this.

00:17:19.000 There's $450 million, I think, for border security on, you know, in Gaza, in Ukraine, and different places.

00:17:27.000 No line item for border security at the southern border on the invasion.

00:17:33.000 But there was line items for what Biden really wants to do, which is processing facilities, correct?

00:17:38.000 And the way to process illegal aliens deeper into the country faster, correct? 0.97

00:17:44.000 This is going to be an incredibly expensive import operation.

00:17:50.000 Already in the El Paso sector, they are flying thousands of immigrants, illegal immigrant aliens, to other processing facilities on the border.

00:18:02.000 Aircraft pilot time and jet fuel and the operations of that is incredibly expensive.

00:18:09.000 You don't see it, but they are flying those people off of the El Paso sector all day and all night to get them off of that area because it's a terrible optic.

00:18:20.000 That's just one expense, but it's a big one.

00:18:25.000 The other expense is all the personnel to move people from border into the interior processing and then into the interior.

00:18:34.000 They need money for that, billions and billions for that.

00:18:37.000 Also, they immediately go into the social welfare net.

00:18:40.000 They get an EBIT card.

00:18:41.000 They get, I think, a phone in a lot of cases.

00:18:43.000 I mean, they go into the system.

00:18:45.000 They're processed.

00:18:46.000 The reason they're processed and they want it from optics to get them into the country and deeper into the country quicker because every town's a border town.

00:18:53.000 Every state's a border state.

00:18:55.000 They go into the overall massive problem we have with an out-of-control federal spending, correct?

00:19:04.000 That's why you're starting to see cities like Denver declare emergencies that are nowhere near the border and New York ask for a billion dollars in federal bailout money.

00:19:16.000 Look for a longer and longer list of cities that will be asking for federal bailouts over this.

00:19:23.000 They'll be asking for money, but they will not be asking, especially the Democratic-run ones, will not be asking the administration to stop the immigration over the border, the illegal border jumping.

00:19:36.000 They're just asking for money to take care of it so that it doesn't come out of their purse.

00:19:42.000 Two things I want, we've already alerted people to watch for these states of emergency, and the New York, the clown mayor of New York already asked for a billion dollars, right?

00:19:51.000 That he needs a quick billion right now, cash money.

00:19:54.000 Talk to me about Title VIII.

00:19:56.000 I thought Title VIII governed everything.

00:19:58.000 I thought Title VIII was the process of how, well, explain Title VIII and why we're going to hear a lot more about Title VIII and everything you're going to hear from it that comes out of the mouth of one of these left-wing NGOs on MSNBC.

00:20:10.000 Any announcer on MSNBC or government official is going to be a lie or spin at least in a lie at worse, sir.

00:20:19.000 So you've been hearing in the war room for a long time now all about Title 42, Title 42.

00:20:25.000 Get ready to just start hearing about Title VIII, Title VIII, Title VIII.

00:20:30.000 You're already hearing about it.

00:20:32.000 What Title VIII is is the central element of the Immigration and Naturalization Act.

00:20:39.000 It is removal proceedings.

00:20:42.000 If you enter, the way it's supposed to work is if you enter illegally, if you cross the border, we automatically place you in Title VIII expedited removal proceedings.

00:20:55.000 Now, there's a way around it.

00:20:57.000 You can claim asylum and all the rest of that, but you are supposed to be kept in detention throughout the process until your asylum claim or whatever is adjudicated.

00:21:08.000 Whatever your claim or benefit is, the administration is saying, don't worry about this.

00:21:14.000 We're putting everybody in Title VIII. 0.55

00:21:16.000 We're putting everybody in Title VIII. 0.55

00:21:18.000 They're already saying it.

00:21:19.000 They're writing it.

00:21:20.000 They're saying it.

00:21:21.000 They're like, we're doing, everybody's subject to removal proceedings.

00:21:25.000 What are the Republicans complaining about?

00:21:27.000 What are these right wing radicals saying about this?

00:21:30.000 Here's what you need to know.

00:21:32.000 They are not enforcing Title VIII.

00:21:36.000 They can put you in Title VIII proceedings, but then they are not enforcing it.

00:21:42.000 And that is the thing that every immigrant in the world knows and every immigration lawyer knows and all of those NGOs knows.

00:21:51.000 But you don't know it.

00:21:53.000 So when you hear them say, don't worry, everybody's going in Title VIII removal, the way they'll say it is everybody is subject to.

00:22:01.000 Well, we have 12 million people living illegally in the United States who are subject to Title VIII right now.

00:22:09.000 And they're just living here for 20 years, 30 years forever.

00:22:12.000 And that is what Title VIII, don't get fooled by tough talk about Title VIII.

00:22:22.000 Todd, do you think this comes down from the Supreme Court tonight, tomorrow night, or the next couple of days?

00:22:26.000 You think it's going to happen in the next couple of days, is your thoughts?

00:22:30.000 Man, those guys are driving me crazy.

00:22:34.000 I can't figure this thing out, honestly.

00:22:37.000 I do think that, I mean, I'm hearing people say something should happen tonight or tomorrow.

00:22:42.000 But just remember, the administration has already reduced the number of Title 42 returns to 30%, the lowest since it's been in place.

00:22:53.000 And in El Paso, they're just saying, screw it.

00:22:55.000 We're coming in anyway.

00:22:56.000 And we're not returning them because there's no patrol to return.

00:23:01.000 Remember, you're not defending your border for your national sovereignty.

00:23:05.000 You're processing it.

00:23:06.000 Todd, you're going to be on location, so we're going to be with you all week.

00:23:09.000 How do people follow you on social media until you get in place tomorrow?

00:23:13.000 That's right.

00:23:14.000 I'll be heading down into Mexico.

00:23:16.000 I got to see this for myself.

00:23:18.000 Monterey, I'll be in deeper into Mexico, away from the border.

00:23:24.000 You can follow me at TBensmanGetter.

00:23:26.000 I'll be gettering.

00:23:28.000 And also Truth Social, Todd Bensman at Truth Social.

00:23:33.000 Just follow me around.

00:23:35.000 Follow me around.

00:23:36.000 And I'll be writing my reports over the next couple of weeks.

00:23:40.000 OK, Todd, we'll catch up with you.

00:23:43.000 Make sure we'll put the book up in our all the live chats overrun.

00:23:46.000 The book comes out in February, but it's absolutely amazing.

00:23:49.000 The definitive account of the Biden's regime's invasion of of our country. 0.61

00:23:55.000 And it will be Article One in the impeachment of Joe Biden.

00:23:59.000 Todd, thank you very much.

00:24:00.000 Honored to have you on here this morning.

00:24:01.000 Thanks for doing this.

00:24:02.000 Thanks for having me.

00:24:04.000 We've got a killer lineup today.

00:24:06.000 People say, oh, everybody's on Christmas vacation.

00:24:08.000 No, no, no.

00:24:09.000 No days off.

00:24:10.000 Boris.

00:24:11.000 Boris, you join us.

00:24:12.000 And by the way, the president has been up on Truth Social laying down the law to the

00:24:17.000 Biden regime about 42, but also just about the whole immigration and the invasion of the

00:24:22.000 southern border overall.

00:24:23.000 Give us your assessment.

00:24:26.000 Steve, I'm honored to be with you.

00:24:27.000 I hope you and the party had a wonderful Christmas.

00:24:30.000 My assessment is this.

00:24:31.000 It's pretty simple.

00:24:32.000 President Trump had a border secure.

00:24:35.000 He had criminal homicides from which down to zero at the border.

00:24:39.000 He had other violent crime down to zero at the border.

00:24:42.000 And now that is skyrocketed.

00:24:45.000 And it's skyrocketed because Joe Biden, hopeless Biden, their hopeless administration

00:24:51.000 have done everything they can to not secure our country, but to destroy our country.

00:24:57.000 And, you know, five years ago, 10 years ago, if somebody said that to me, well, they're

00:25:01.000 doing this intentionally.

00:25:02.000 I would have said, no, no, no.

00:25:03.000 You know, both sides of America.

00:25:05.000 Not anymore.

00:25:06.000 At this point, it is clear as day that Americans who want to keep our border, that Americans

00:25:14.000 who want to secure our border are MAGA.

00:25:17.000 And the Democrats and, yes, rhino Republicans are doing all they can to sell our country down 0.98

00:25:24.000 the river, to open up our southern border, to crush our economy, and to destroy this country.

00:25:29.000 I've got to go back to this omnibus bill, the ominous bill, as President Trump has been

00:25:34.000 saying, on his truth, this is probably, even more so than Obamacare, the largest, most disgusting

00:25:43.000 travesty that I have ever seen or have ever studied throughout American history.

00:25:48.000 Because all the Republicans have to do is wait 10 days.

00:25:52.000 The uniparty, the establishment, whatever you call it, the deep state, the swamp, the permanent

00:25:59.000 government rose up and it defeated, it defeated the forces of good for the forces of evil.

00:26:06.000 Do not kid yourself.

00:26:07.000 That omnibus bill, the ominous bill, is one of the most disgusting things that we've ever

00:26:12.000 faced.

00:26:13.000 It has had almost $2 billion, $2 billion for the border, except none of it could be used

00:26:19.000 to secure the border.

00:26:20.000 We're securing the borders of Sudan, Oman, and countries all over the world.

00:26:25.000 We're not securing our own. 0.88

00:26:27.000 This bill was a disgusting Frankenstein.

00:26:30.000 And any Republican, any Republican who voted for it in the Senate, and obviously anybody 0.66

00:26:36.000 who they considered supporting in the House, is going to rue the day they did so.

00:26:40.000 We are not going to forget.

00:26:42.000 Election time, endorsement time, movement time, we are not going to forget.

00:26:46.000 Every single of those 18 traitors in the Senate, Tom Cotton is high on the list.

00:26:53.000 He's going around saying, oh no, I'm for America, I'm America first.

00:26:57.000 You ought to look at yourselves in the mirror, and you ought to be embarrassed of yourself.

00:27:02.000 I don't know how those Republicans could face their constituents during break.

00:27:06.000 It is a travesty, what they did to our country.

00:27:09.000 They further destroyed the border.

00:27:11.000 They further destroyed the American economy.

00:27:13.000 And all they had to do was wait 10 days, but they went to otherwise.

00:27:17.000 Boris, hang off one second.

00:27:18.000 We'll take a short commercial break.

00:27:19.000 We're going to come back.

00:27:20.000 We have Darren Beattie, Frank Gaffney, it's heating up in Taiwan in the South China Sea,

00:27:25.000 Kerry Lake, Royce White, Steve Cortez.

00:27:29.000 All next in the war room.

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00:28:23.000 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:28:26.000 Back.

00:28:27.000 Okay.

00:28:28.000 I've got Darren Beattie's going to come up in a second about the administrative state and the rogue element, the deep state.

00:28:34.000 Frank Gaffney.

00:28:35.000 Frank Gaffney.

00:28:36.000 There is a...

00:28:37.000 How do I say this?

00:28:39.000 Quite uncomfortable signals coming from the CCP about potential kinetic activity in the South China Sea and around Taiwan.

00:28:47.000 We're going to get to all that.

00:28:49.000 But, Boris, and all those are going to be huge, massive issues in 2024.

00:28:52.000 One of the top issues will be the invasion of our country and the basic question of the sovereignty of this nation.

00:28:58.000 Now, you couldn't have two diametrically opposed views on this than Donald J. Trump and actions, not views, actions of Donald J. Trump versus the Biden regime.

00:29:10.000 Now, one of two things has to happen, I think.

00:29:13.000 Either they do nothing and this becomes a massive issue, of which Trump's got the winning hand, or Trump moves the Overton window.

00:29:22.000 He moves... Biden's going to have to... is going to have to compromise because the American people will not tolerate this.

00:29:28.000 What's your thoughts and assessment of that?

00:29:31.000 Steve, I fully believe that the border is going to be one of the issues of the 2024 election.

00:29:39.000 There's no two ways about it.

00:29:40.000 Because the contrast, again, is so clear.

00:29:43.000 Violent crime is up 3,000% between 2019 and 2022 fiscal years.

00:29:48.000 What does that tell you?

00:29:50.000 That President Trump, for the first time in a long time in our history, actually secured our border, actually wanted to protect our country, and that Biden and his team are doing the opposite.

00:29:59.000 And again, at this point, I've got to believe that it is intentional.

00:30:03.000 There's no other explanation for destroying any protection of the border whatsoever.

00:30:09.000 So I think the border, the economy, and election integrity are going to be the top three issues.

00:30:14.000 And the border impacts everything.

00:30:16.000 It impacts the economy.

00:30:17.000 Yes, it impacts election integrity.

00:30:18.000 It impacts crime.

00:30:19.000 It impacts security.

00:30:20.000 It impacts national security.

00:30:22.000 Everything is impacted by the border.

00:30:26.000 So expect for that to be a top issue that we talk about day in, day out.

00:30:31.000 And President Trump delivered on that.

00:30:33.000 Hang on.

00:30:34.000 Biden's already signaled they're going to use inflation.

00:30:38.000 The reason we have inflation is that African-Americans and Mexican-American citizens are asking for wage increases, and what we need to do is flood the zone with illegal alien labor. 1.00

00:30:50.000 This is going to be their pitch.

00:30:51.000 We need more immigration, more illegal immigration at the southern border because it's the low-skill folks in the country that are really driving the price of a McDonald's up another 10 cents. 1.00

00:31:02.000 This is the pitch.

00:31:03.000 This is the pitch.

00:31:05.000 This is their pitch.

00:31:06.000 What is President Trump's comeback on that, sir?

00:31:09.000 The comeback is that there is absolute clear and obvious nonsense.

00:31:16.000 To blame hardworking Americans for inflation is, again, as unpatriotic as it gets.

00:31:22.000 The answer is that America and inflation were booming.

00:31:27.000 You know, inflation was down.

00:31:28.000 The American economy was booming during President Trump's term, including getting through the COVID downturn.

00:31:35.000 So any of this nonsense that Biden throws out, you don't have to look 50 years.

00:31:40.000 You don't have to look 100 years back.

00:31:41.000 You look back three, four years and look at the absolute strength of the American economy.

00:31:47.000 The inflation that was so low, it actually had to get ticked up to about 1% because you don't want it to be at a full zero.

00:31:54.000 If you look at what President Trump was able to do that defeats any of these nonsense arguments that, I'm going to be honest, Joe Biden was never smart enough to talk about the economy, but definitely doesn't know anything about it now.

00:32:07.000 He doesn't even know what year it is.

00:32:09.000 Any arguments thrown out by the feckless, hopeless Biden team are defeated by the experience of President Trump's term.

00:32:16.000 The strength of the Trump economy and the strength of the Trump border.

00:32:20.000 So if you have a strong border then and a strong economy, how can there be any other argument against that?

00:32:26.000 We mentioned previously with Bensman about how, and you mentioned it too, about how there's so many hundreds of millions of dollars for borders, security, and walls everywhere but the southern border of this nation in the omnibus.

00:32:38.000 President Trump put out something I thought was very interesting.

00:32:41.000 He said yesterday in one of the true social posts, or it might be on Christmas Day, he said he didn't know what they had on Mitch to get him to go along with the omnibus and to get all his collaborators that every time Biden's had, quote unquote, a win, it's because of Republican collaboration.

00:33:01.000 So I think the signal here is they're not really collaborators.

00:33:05.000 They're just Republicans.

00:33:07.000 When we say Republicans in the name only, that's just a handle.

00:33:10.000 They actually are part of this neoliberal, neocon, uniparty, elite that controls the, that is managing the client of the United States.

00:33:20.000 And they're happy with it because their clients and their lobbyists and their, the people they owe money to or have to pay off are all taken care of in this omnibus.

00:33:30.000 So I put up in my getter, I said, look, for President Trump, I said, hey, could it be the, the, the, the CCP controlled asset father of, uh, of Chow, of McConnell's wife, which is a known controlled CCP controlled a hundred percent.

00:33:46.000 The shipping business from Taiwanese, all the customers, all the clients were in mainland China, a hundred percent CCP, all the money he gave Mitch for his total net worth.

00:33:54.000 Would that be it?

00:33:55.000 Would it be the time that Chow put a hundred eight, I think 80 to a hundred million dollars.

00:34:01.000 And Darren B remember this back at the turn of the century in 2000 to try to essentially buy the heritage organization, right?

00:34:07.000 The end of the Clinton administration, they want to make sure they had the conservatives covered.

00:34:11.000 They gave him, I think an $80 million donation of pure unadulterated, pure CCP cash.

00:34:16.000 Would it be that, or to be the much rumored controversy about Mitch McConnell's 60 days in the United States army, right?

00:34:23.000 About what, what's the reality of that, or is President Trump real that Mitch McConnell, that this entire omnibus, uh, Boris was a stop Trump, stop MAGA bill.

00:34:37.000 If you go through this, it's absolutely stopped Trump.

00:34:39.000 They've put $121 million just of the two and a half or $2.2 billion to us attorneys.

00:34:46.000 Other than just, that's just part of the justice department budget of the 2.2 billion.

00:34:51.000 I think the U S attorneys, $121 million is an increase just for prosecutions of insurrectionists, domestic terrorists, and the special prosecutor associated with the, uh, the, the witch hunt for president Trump.

00:35:05.000 So as president Trump, does he realize they don't need anything on Mitch?

00:35:08.000 Mitch is one of the drivers of this.

00:35:10.000 He's not some victim of this, sir.

00:35:13.000 See, I think it's all of the above.

00:35:16.000 I do think the way that McConnell has been acting, especially recently, uh, is so clear cut different from any, how any Republicans should act.

00:35:26.000 The one has to believe that I think should be investigated.

00:35:29.000 What is truly going on?

00:35:31.000 So, and you know, president Trump in a Christmas post said that the election was rigged and stolen for hopeless America wrecking radical Marxist against the clairvoyant president Trump.

00:35:44.000 And let's be honest, you and I've talked about it.

00:35:46.000 If you go back 10, 15 years, a lot of the things the president has said that people disagreed with initially turned out to be right.

00:35:52.000 So this could very well be one of those about Mitch McConnell and those connections that you just laid out with, uh, Coco Chow as president Trump, uh, refers to Elaine Chow.

00:36:00.000 Okay.

00:36:01.000 And it lives, you can go crazy all you want.

00:36:03.000 President's having a good time on true social and, and it's authentic.

00:36:07.000 And that's why it's breaking through.

00:36:09.000 So that's a part of it.

00:36:10.000 And yet another part of it, Steve, absolutely.

00:36:13.000 Mitch McConnell is a, is a key, absolutely ordered part of the establishment.

00:36:20.000 So, and the two are not mutually exclusive.

00:36:23.000 Yes.

00:36:24.000 Do I think they have something on them?

00:36:25.000 Quite possibly, quite likely should be investigated.

00:36:28.000 But is Mitch driving this, especially the attack on MAGA, the attack of president Trump and going the other way against that and funding the political witch hunts?

00:36:39.000 No doubt about it.

00:36:40.000 And that is why president Trump has got to get back in the oval office, has got to win, win the presidential election for the third time.

00:36:48.000 Yes.

00:36:49.000 For the third time.

00:36:50.000 And actually this time, no doubt about it.

00:36:53.000 We have got to change DC for good.

00:36:56.000 We've got to put MAGA in control and not let go.

00:36:59.000 We cannot have the swamp creatures continue to sell our country down the river. 1.00

00:37:04.000 Right.

00:37:05.000 I've got Darren Beattie.

00:37:06.000 I've got Frank Gaffney, Carrie Lake, Cortez.

00:37:09.000 We're packed, but I got it.

00:37:11.000 It says, Jamie, little Jamie Raskin comes out.

00:37:14.000 And he says, yes, he says over the weekend shows, the Electoral College is a central danger to American democracy.

00:37:23.000 He must not understand the way the country is structured through the Constitution, what the framers had in mind.

00:37:28.000 That's that's done so well for what, 200 plus years.

00:37:32.000 He wants mob rule.

00:37:33.000 This is they want mobocracy, not democracy.

00:37:36.000 They want mobocracy.

00:37:37.000 That's why they're doing the invasion of the southern border.

00:37:39.000 Jamie Raskin comes out and says it.

00:37:41.000 He says the Electoral College and these people say, oh, the war room, they're such radicals.

00:37:46.000 He says the Electoral College is a central threat to American democracy.

00:37:52.000 Also, let's be let's be blunt.

00:37:54.000 They had to stick the Electoral Count Act changes into the omnibus because they didn't have the votes to pass it.

00:38:01.000 And the Electoral Count Act changes shows that everything President Trump and people did was by the rules.

00:38:07.000 Why do they have to change the rules? 0.75

00:38:09.000 Why do they have to make other definitions of what the vice president is supposed to do?

00:38:13.000 By the way, if Judas Pence had any shot at all, even if he followed last night, you know, he got caught and he says, oh, it was just it was a prank.

00:38:20.000 Right. He filed to run for president, believe it or not.

00:38:23.000 Judas Pence had the law and the Constitution on his side.

00:38:27.000 That's where they change it in the middle of the night.

00:38:29.000 Did anybody see did anybody see any debate at all on the floor of the most deliberative body in in in Western Christendom, the United States Senate?

00:38:39.000 Did anybody remember any debate, any hearings, anything?

00:38:44.000 Did you hear anything on the Electoral Count Act except what you heard here on war room?

00:38:47.000 Did you hear anything? You did not because they wanted to change it in the middle of the night.

00:38:53.000 They wanted to change it because President Trump and his people played 100 percent by the rules.

00:38:58.000 That's why they had to change the rules. They had to move the goalposts. 0.99

00:39:02.000 Boris is is anything in there incorrect to what I said, including the fact they were too gutless to stand up and debate this in front of the American people, too gutless to even have a hearing, a public hearing while they had the show trial on all the time.

00:39:15.000 Sir?

00:39:17.000 You got it a thousand percent correct.

00:39:19.000 And it is clear as day that the gutless Democrats and the right and the establishment Republicans pushed this quote unquote new Electoral Count Act through.

00:39:33.000 They didn't have the vote. Here's the problem. It's likely not constitutional because guess what? You could not change the Constitution with with a law, even when you stuck in the omnibus.

00:39:45.000 Sorry to break it to you, little Jamie. Sorry to break it to you, Chuck Schumer. Sorry to break it to you, Mitch McConnell.

00:39:51.000 You cannot change our Constitution by passing a corrupt piece of legislation.

00:39:55.000 But having said that, does this prove once and for all that Pence did have the power to do what they claim he did not?

00:40:02.000 Again, President Trump calling out absolutely correctly, President Trump saying it like it is.

00:40:07.000 Yes, it proves once and for all that because they just rushed this through that Pence absolutely had the power to send the fraud, the issue back to the states to investigate for 10 days.

00:40:19.000 And anybody telling you otherwise, but also voting and pushing through this new Electoral Count Act is lying to your face.

00:40:26.760 Remember, Mike Davis has told us one of the most important cases that the Supreme Court is taking up is the independent state legislature, which makes the left meltdown.

00:40:35.820 Kevin McCarthy, if you want to be speaker today, you ought to be on every show and every Democrat should have to answer if they agree with Jamie Raskin.

00:40:43.640 Is the Electoral College, and John Tester ought to answer that today, is the Electoral College a central problem of American democracy?

00:40:53.500 The central threat to American democracy is the Electoral College.

00:40:56.840 John Tester, Montana, you agree with that?

00:40:59.580 Kristen Sinema down there in Arizona, Joe Manchin up there in West Virginia, you agree with that?

00:41:03.660 All these Democrats in these small states, right?

00:41:06.740 Do you agree with that?

00:41:08.240 Where's McCartney?

00:41:08.820 Do you agree with that?

00:41:09.740 Do you agree with little Jamie Raskin?

00:41:11.260 You want to talk about radical, this is how radical these people are.

00:41:14.320 Boris, I know you're jammed.

00:41:15.980 How do people follow you on social media?

00:41:18.180 Well, see, one other thing, you know who really hates the Electoral Count Act, very interestingly, and you know, no conspiracy but no coincidences,

00:41:26.500 the wife of the special, the quote-unquote, special prosecutor Jack Smith.

00:41:30.380 His wife was posting all over social media after President Trump won just how bad the Electoral College system is. 0.99

00:41:37.220 Very interesting to see now little Jamie Raskin jumping on board.

00:41:41.260 Maybe, just maybe, we are now seeing the truth about the un-American, un-patriotic, anti-constitutionalist Democrat cabal.

00:41:50.580 My information, the website is hot, BorisCB.com.

00:41:53.980 Hot on the website, BorisCB.com.

00:41:55.860 Hot on Getter at BorisCB.

00:41:57.040 On Twitter at BorisCB.

00:41:58.480 Hot on social at Boris.

00:41:59.860 Hot on Instagram, Boris underscore Epstein.

00:42:02.140 Stay strong.

00:42:03.040 God bless all offense.

00:42:04.280 And I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:42:05.160 Okay, it's heating up in Silicon Valley West in Taiwan.

00:42:09.800 It's also heating up with the administrative state.

00:42:12.120 Darren Beattie, Frank Gaffney, join us next in the war room.

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00:44:11.480 I'm an absolute moron about this stuff, and all the stuff I put up on my accounts, I'll put up by me, because you download it and you just roll.

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00:44:21.700 You get Gaffney, you get Beattie and Revolver, Cortez, Navarro, all of us, right?

00:44:27.120 And you're getting constant updates.

00:44:28.440 I'm putting up stuff all night long.

00:44:30.060 I want to bring in Darren B.

00:44:30.860 A couple of things I put up, Darren.

00:44:32.660 On this show a couple of years ago, and I talked about this before even 2020, back when I asked, you know, Chip, one of the reasons I'm banned for Twitter is my comments on Chris Ray.

00:44:45.120 That you needed what was called a church commission like they had in the 70s because of the assassination of Kennedy, everything that was going on throughout the war with the FBI and the CIA, and also because of the intelligence failures of Vietnam.

00:44:59.120 We got to be blunt.

00:45:00.780 Just the basic intelligence failures in Vietnam.

00:45:03.260 And I'm not talking about the paramilitary CIA who fought so bravely.

00:45:06.560 I'm talking about the basic central core of the apparatus got so many things wrong even then.

00:45:10.940 And they were FBI and CIA were out of control.

00:45:12.700 So it's church commissioner.

00:45:13.920 I was very quickly seconded by Darren Beattie of Revolver.

00:45:18.880 And people looked at Darren as one of the smartest guys in our movement.

00:45:23.360 And we both advocated for a long time you need a church commissioner.

00:45:25.840 Well, in today's, I've got it up as one of the lead stories on my getter.

00:45:29.060 The lead story in The Hill talks about time running out for McCarthy.

00:45:32.920 And you have to understand, there's a couple of huge things going on here.

00:45:36.140 One is this fight for the speakership.

00:45:37.940 The other is the fight for the head of the RNC.

00:45:39.640 The other is, quite frankly, already about the debt ceiling because they understand we have the absolute leverage with the debt ceiling.

00:45:44.840 So three massive things that are being fought over nonstop.

00:45:48.000 Now, in this article, it mentions that McCarthy may have already agreed to a church commission to specifically investigate the FBI and the CIA in broad public hearings, some classified but some unclassified, to get to the bottom of the whole, this rogue element, deep state of the administrative state.

00:46:07.480 And that Chip Roy, the great Chip Roy, would actually be the head of it.

00:46:14.080 Also, over the weekend, your boy, Elon Musk, I had to go up.

00:46:17.880 I called him the gimp, right? 1.00

00:46:19.600 Because he's putting out tweets.

00:46:20.620 He says, oh, there's a couple of bad people in the FBI.

00:46:22.520 After everything's come out on the surface because they won't allow Miranda Devine and they won't allow Darren Beattie and they won't allow people that are cash, but tell people really know what they're looking for.

00:46:33.120 And I'm not saying Weiss, Barry Weiss and Matt T.B. are not doing a good job, but they don't really understand this topic like you guys do.

00:46:40.960 He says, hey, there's a few bad people in the FBI, but overall, it's really good folks and really good operations.

00:46:47.340 I said, this guy's the gimp, right? 1.00

00:46:49.180 He hasn't gotten the memo yet.

00:46:51.140 So talk to me about the church commission, the FBI, the administrative state, Elon Musk, and the attempts right now to shut down Elon Musk, Darren Beattie.

00:47:00.780 Well, first of all, I'm so pleased to hear that you've been calling for it, I've been calling for it, a church-style committee to conduct a full, thorough, and public review, investigation, and expose of the abuses within the intelligence community.

00:47:21.280 It's absolutely long overdue, and now we're hearing Kevin McCarthy is paying, if not paying lip service, maybe even stronger than lip service, which is great.

00:47:32.820 Even if it's McCarthy, if he goes in the right direction, I'd say that's great, and Chip Roy would be an excellent candidate for that.

00:47:39.280 We're hearing David Sachs, who's played a role in this sort of new Twitter, also vocalized the need for a church committee, and the individual that you call the gimp, Elon Musk, actually, for what it's worth, seconded the need for something like that.

00:47:55.980 And so maybe if we actually do have a real church-style hearing, Elon can update his ridiculous understanding that, oh, there are only a few bad apples in the FBI.

00:48:06.900 I mean, unfortunately, I mean, I think a lot of people want to believe that, but I think deep down in our bones, even Elon-

00:48:15.520 But I want you, but no, no, but I need you to explain this to people, because Sachs is a very, is a brilliant guy, clearly, and it's, there are very, very good people at the FBI, many of them, the rank and file, just like there's the CIA.

00:48:29.900 That's not what we're talking about.

00:48:31.280 We're talking about there's a, we have a major systemic problem, and the problem is, is these now have become, they are so more, there are so much out of control on the domestic side that would make the people back in the 1970s heads blow up, right?

00:48:46.860 I mean, there are so much, go ahead, go ahead.

00:48:49.900 There are a lot of things to be said for this.

00:48:51.260 Yes, you know, there are, there are good ones, you know, as Trump famously said in another context, some, I assume, are good people, and that applies to the intelligence community as well.

00:49:01.740 But the rot is indeed systemic, and, you know, one of the reasons, you know, I have faith that there are some good people in there too, which is why I've been calling for the RNC to actually put up some money for a whistleblowers fund to provide support and encouragement for the good people actually within these agencies to come out and help to expose the rot.

00:49:24.620 But I guess the, you know, the RNC would rather spend the money on yoga pants and other things, but maybe they'll take me up on this suggestion at some point.

00:49:34.420 But you're absolutely right.

00:49:37.180 There are some questions, though.

00:49:39.100 If we're going to do a church-style committee, we have to understand the committee for what it was historically, what made it effective to the degree to which it is effective, to what extent those circumstances apply today.

00:49:52.440 Just to give you a quick example, and actually Revolver News is doing an extensive study on the church committee and lessons that we can learn for a new version, but just to give some points in relation to that.

00:50:05.160 So the church committee exposed all of these wrongdoings on the part of the intelligence community, and partly as a result of that expose, so much of the dark stuff that used to be in-house within these agencies was sort of outsourced to these cutout organizations and NGOs and so forth.

00:50:27.060 And so in the updated version of the church committee, we need to have a comprehensive approach that actually encompasses the intelligence community's workarounds that they've implemented since the last church committee that understands that a lot of the dirty stuff is still happening in-house,

00:50:46.340 But so much more of it is now outsourced to these NGOs and cutout institutions and these sort of disinformation organizations that are effectively government-run but formally have some kind of distance, so they couldn't be targeted directly in the same way that the intel community was in the church committee.

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Bannon's War Room - December 27, 2022

Episode 2402：： Title 42 To Be Lifted And The Surge Continues

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