Bannon's War Room - January 05, 2023


Episode 2419： From The Trenches Of Congress： The Fight For Speaker


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

183.5831

Word Count

10,033

Sentence Count

758

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary


Transcript

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:26.000 Mega Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.000 Well, I've had a number of conversations with Kevin,
00:00:54.000 and I've just basically told him that at some point this needs to break loose.
00:00:57.000 He either needs to make a deal that brings the 19 or 20 over,
00:01:02.000 or he needs to step aside and give somebody else a chance to do that.
00:01:06.000 I don't know what that timeframe is, but it makes sense that at some point today,
00:01:10.000 we are able to move forward in a way that we elect a speaker.
00:01:14.000 Unfortunately, the Democrats won't agree to a motion to adjourn so the Republicans can meet.
00:01:19.000 The rebels of the 20 group that is opposing McCarthy won't agree to a motion to adjourn.
00:01:25.000 So we're going to keep going through this exercise on the floor.
00:01:27.000 The smart thing to do is to get together, have a conversation, choose somebody, and let's move forward.
00:01:34.000 So your message to Kevin McCarthy is basically we need to fish or cut bait.
00:01:39.000 We need to, if you can't get to 218 or 217, whatever the threshold is, we need to find someone else.
00:01:47.000 Who might that be?
00:01:48.000 Well, I think the next in line is Steve Scalise, and I don't know if Steve gets more or less.
00:01:53.000 I think that at some point we've got to start looking at the rules and the committee assignments and other things
00:02:01.000 just get back to the basics of what people, what their self-interest is in this case,
00:02:06.000 and meet some of those interests and hopefully get the votes.
00:02:09.000 It's adjourned until 8 p.m. tonight.
00:02:12.000 Garrett, are you still with us?
00:02:15.000 I didn't, are you sure the, who had that?
00:02:18.000 Yeah, so two things.
00:02:19.000 Hang on, is Garrett there?
00:02:21.000 Yeah, I'm here.
00:02:22.000 Can you hear me, Nicole?
00:02:23.000 Yeah.
00:02:24.000 I mean, that sounded, I mean, maybe, obviously her acoustics are better than ours.
00:02:28.000 It sounded pretty close.
00:02:29.000 If there's a roll call, would the yays have that hit?
00:02:32.000 Yeah.
00:02:33.000 Well, it sounds like nobody requested a roll call.
00:02:35.000 So what you may have had there, I think, was Democrats shouting no.
00:02:38.000 But, you know, maybe just shouting no to rib the Republicans a little bit more so than wanting
00:02:43.000 to actually get the proper roll call on it.
00:02:46.000 Nobody asking for the yays and nays indicates everybody's pretty much agreed to this, as Jim
00:02:50.000 Heim suggested in your interview might be the case.
00:02:53.000 So on adjournment until 8 o'clock tonight.
00:02:56.000 Okay.
00:02:57.000 It is Wednesday for January in the year of our Lord, 2023.
00:03:01.000 This is the afternoon evening show.
00:03:03.000 They have just adjourned the interview, obviously, with, on CNN, with Ken Buck.
00:03:09.000 Congressman Ken Buck of Colorado took place a little earlier.
00:03:12.000 We have one also show of General Don Bacon of Nebraska, the Congressman from there, that
00:03:18.000 earlier in the day kind of gave it up and saying, hey, you know, if Kevin, I'm really
00:03:21.000 support Kevin.
00:03:22.000 Kevin's my guy.
00:03:23.000 I really support Kevin.
00:03:24.000 However, if he can't get to 218 shortly, you know, I'm leading a group that wants to
00:03:30.000 talk about maybe talking to some Democrats and, you know, working with Democrats to get,
00:03:35.000 to get Upton as Fred Upton as, I mean, just ridiculous stuff.
00:03:41.000 That's not going to happen.
00:03:42.000 It started, the dam started to crack today.
00:03:44.000 I've got Boris.
00:03:45.000 And what we're going to do is we've been playing clips from the day because, and I've
00:03:50.000 asked, I've tried to track down Dr. Gina.
00:03:52.000 Dr. Gina was there at the beginning in the Tea Party revolt.
00:03:54.000 I want to make sure everybody knows exactly what we're fighting for and how important
00:03:59.000 this is and how it sets a predicate for the debt ceiling in the appropriations, which are
00:04:06.000 really what this is about.
00:04:07.000 And, and you can tell this, all the commentators, all the articles are going, well, if they're,
00:04:12.000 if they're this tough on this, you know, way to the debt ceiling, way to the debt ceiling.
00:04:17.000 That ceiling now is everybody's, it was some obscure thing.
00:04:20.000 And the word we started talking about is six, seven months ago.
00:04:23.000 That was going to be a big deal.
00:04:24.000 And now they understand that we have the leverage on the debt ceiling.
00:04:27.000 Boris Epstein, tell us, so we're taking a break.
00:04:30.000 The reason there was a little fiasco there at the end, they did it by, they didn't think
00:04:34.000 they had the votes because the 20, the rebels weren't going to, weren't, said, no, baby,
00:04:39.000 you said you want to stay here and vote until you got it or break us.
00:04:42.000 Let's do it.
00:04:43.000 They want to take a break in the worst way to get back in, into the offices, not do a conference.
00:04:48.000 They didn't call a conference, but do break out into smaller groups, Boris, and try to twist
00:04:53.000 arms, make deals and see if there's any possibility if McCarthy is still, you know, it's still
00:05:00.000 competitive, I guess you would say, or if they're going to go to another alternative.
00:05:03.000 And we'll get to that in a second.
00:05:05.000 What is your assessment today?
00:05:06.000 We had three more votes, honestly, three more humiliations for Kevin McCarthy, who's a good guy.
00:05:12.000 Look, he's, he represents the swamp, but this is just absolutely humiliating.
00:05:16.000 I don't know.
00:05:17.000 I don't know what the purpose is right now, what Kevin McCarthy is trying to prove, Boris
00:05:21.000 Epstein.
00:05:22.000 Steve, honor me with you.
00:05:23.000 Honor me with the posse.
00:05:24.000 Very, very, very interesting day today.
00:05:26.000 It seems like the most fascinating time is now.
00:05:29.000 Now, to be frank, the only true surprise, I think, you know, so far this afternoon is
00:05:34.000 the fact that they adjourned, but only until eight o'clock, that they're actually going
00:05:38.000 to be coming back at eight o'clock this evening.
00:05:41.000 And as reported, and Andy Biggs actually just publicly said, there seems to be some movement
00:05:48.000 potentially on a different candidate for speaker.
00:05:51.000 And now, in the clip you just played, Steve's going to be publicly bloated, you know, as the
00:05:56.000 next option.
00:05:57.000 It is where we stand now is exactly effective where we stood 24 hours ago when I had the
00:06:04.000 honor of being with Warren Posse.
00:06:07.000 I think what is likely to happen now is that there is going to be any, any sort of change
00:06:13.000 in the next days to come.
00:06:15.000 That change is likely to come between now and 8 p.m. today and the events of, of this
00:06:21.000 evening.
00:06:22.000 It'll be fascinating to see.
00:06:23.000 Very interesting to look at those who've, who've stayed, stayed dug in.
00:06:27.000 And I, I believe, I believe that right now is likely the most intense negotiating that
00:06:33.000 we've seen from the very beginning of, of this process.
00:06:38.000 Let me say, Biggs, there was a tweet that just went out as we were coming on that Biggs was
00:06:44.000 hurt, overheard leaving.
00:06:45.000 And they said, are you going to go?
00:06:47.000 He says, yeah, we're not going to have a conference.
00:06:48.000 We're going to break out in a smaller group to continue negotiations.
00:06:52.000 And I think they asked him, do you have a solution?
00:06:54.000 And he says, yes.
00:06:55.000 What is that solution?
00:06:56.000 He goes, a new candidate for speaker.
00:06:57.000 And this is not Biggs going to negotiate with Matt, uh, Matt Gates and, uh, and Paul Gosar.
00:07:03.000 This looks like, uh, to, to go to the opposite side and see what happens.
00:07:06.000 Uh, is your sense?
00:07:08.000 Just to be clear.
00:07:09.000 Ken Bach is a guy negotiating with Kevin McCarthy on that.
00:07:13.000 So, you know, right now, the two sides, which seem to have some interesting conversations
00:07:18.000 during the day.
00:07:19.000 And I'll talk about that in a second, because, you know, for the posse, you know,
00:07:22.000 who obviously hasn't had the opportunity, but this is our, this is our work.
00:07:25.000 This is our life.
00:07:26.000 Right.
00:07:27.000 So I've had the TV on throughout the day, watching the, some of the physical language
00:07:29.000 it's been interesting to see, but this will be the first true in depth behind the
00:07:33.000 scenes interaction since yesterday morning, between the, the, those who are, who are holding
00:07:38.000 out against Kevin McCarthy and Kevin has supported us.
00:07:42.000 Yeah.
00:07:43.000 You know, they picked up, uh, earlier when that if people were watching it, but earlier
00:07:47.000 in the day, Gates was sitting there and he kind of got semi surrounded by McHenry and,
00:07:52.000 uh, and, uh, a couple of other, the, of the, of the team of, um, of McCarthy.
00:07:57.000 And it was heard to say, somebody tweeted out, there was heard to say about a negotiation
00:08:01.000 that said, you know, how do we go into cloakroom?
00:08:02.000 Cause they're going to continue this on the floor.
00:08:04.000 How do we negotiate?
00:08:05.000 He said, Hey, well, we're prepared to negotiate, uh, with anybody that, that puts up a new speaker,
00:08:10.000 but it's not, we're not going to, you know, we're dug in and we're going to remain dug
00:08:14.000 in.
00:08:15.000 Um, by the way, the eight o'clock, I'm not so sure the eight o'clock is hard.
00:08:19.000 They say that they're, they're fully willing to come back and say, Hey, we need more time.
00:08:23.000 Let's just do it tomorrow morning.
00:08:24.000 That's why to slip off.
00:08:26.000 Uh, remember they didn't have the votes to take a recorded vote.
00:08:30.000 Stenny, Stenny, Stenny is Horrier.
00:08:32.000 Who's a tough old dog was over there in the democratic side.
00:08:35.000 And Denny, Stenny Horrier told him, it says, Hey, don't let's, let's do a voice vote.
00:08:38.000 I don't care if it takes an hour.
00:08:39.000 Let's see.
00:08:40.000 Cause they don't have the votes to adjourn.
00:08:42.000 Keep them up here.
00:08:43.000 Right.
00:08:44.000 They did it by voice and then slipped out quickly.
00:08:48.000 Um, McCarthy, his options that people don't, he will at a minimum, if he doesn't fight this
00:08:57.000 through and come back at eight and say, Hey, look, I want to continue to pound it for,
00:09:00.000 a few more days.
00:09:01.000 I deserve that.
00:09:02.000 His team will back him up.
00:09:03.000 Those guys will back him up.
00:09:04.000 He will have his hand in who his replacement is.
00:09:08.000 Correct.
00:09:09.000 I mean, right now, if they're negotiating, he's negotiating because he represents the
00:09:13.000 cartel.
00:09:14.000 The cartel wants to make sure that they've got, you know, whether it's Calise Stefanik,
00:09:18.000 you pick it, that they still have some say in this.
00:09:22.000 Right.
00:09:23.000 And it's not a Jim Jordan or one of the hardcore freedom caucus individuals.
00:09:27.000 Am I, am I missing the memo?
00:09:30.000 Did I not read the memo by saying that?
00:09:34.000 It appears that this negotiation is going to, if it is, if Kevin McCarthy does agree
00:09:42.000 to put up a different candidate, it likely at this point, it seems it's likely that it's
00:09:47.000 somebody who is currently in leadership because again, remember to be in leadership, you already
00:09:52.000 had to win at 50 plus 1%.
00:09:54.000 So, and then, and then Jim Jordan has been very specific and very steady in stating that
00:09:59.000 he wants to run the judiciary committee.
00:10:01.000 And I will tell you from a lot of the things that I'm honored to focus on having Jim Jordan
00:10:06.000 run the judiciary committee is absolutely vital because she knows it like nobody else.
00:10:10.000 I mean, fight that.
00:10:11.000 Yes.
00:10:12.000 Yes.
00:10:13.000 So if, and you know, it's interesting, right?
00:10:16.000 We don't usually do a lot of game day analysis on the show, right?
00:10:20.000 A lot of it is in depth going, hitting the issues and is always signal, not noise for
00:10:25.000 the audience right now.
00:10:26.000 We have to be doing this analysis because this is the signal, not noise because a lot
00:10:30.000 of the future of our country is being decided right now.
00:10:32.000 Obviously the big thing is the presidential election of 2024 where president Trump is going
00:10:36.000 to walk back into the overall office, latest Jan, 20, 20, 25.
00:10:40.000 In the meantime, right now, this is the biggest thing that's going to happen is this election
00:10:43.000 for speaker over the next certain period of time.
00:10:46.000 So for those of you who are, who are either have stayed in tune with this or are now getting
00:10:54.000 on board and really following this, the Kim McCarthy's options are as follows.
00:11:00.000 He continues to pound away and have vote after vote after vote.
00:11:03.000 It does not, it does not seem like those holding out are about to give.
00:11:08.000 Okay.
00:11:09.000 Option two is he, he agrees to, to give it to somebody in leadership.
00:11:17.000 As long as the, the 20 are amenable to that.
00:11:22.000 Option three, I think the completely unworkable option is make some sort of deal with the Democrats.
00:11:26.000 You know, you've got to own a hero con and talk about, Oh, we want some peanut power and all
00:11:30.000 this.
00:11:31.000 That is disgusting.
00:11:33.000 And anybody considering that should have no future.
00:11:36.000 The Republican party whatsoever.
00:11:38.000 The American people sent Nancy Pelosi home.
00:11:41.000 They're retired Nancy Pelosi.
00:11:43.000 Okay.
00:11:44.000 Yeah.
00:11:45.000 She's up there right now doing the thing, but she is effectively done.
00:11:47.000 And even think about any deal with a Democrat is absolute poison.
00:11:51.000 And that's, and those are the options.
00:11:54.000 No, the, the, any notion of a cross party or some sort of coalition is absolute nonsense.
00:12:03.000 And you know what Steve, the Democrats would never consider it.
00:12:06.000 So we cannot consider it either.
00:12:08.000 We've got to be tough.
00:12:09.000 We've got to elect the speaker.
00:12:10.000 Yes.
00:12:11.000 We've got to elect the speaker and we've got to start investigating and prosecuting.
00:12:15.000 Scalise, one of the things that the McCarthy guys are going to look at has Scalise really
00:12:21.000 had his back.
00:12:22.000 I mean, his nomination speech was not exactly a ringing endorsement.
00:12:27.000 It was more about Scalise's conservative program.
00:12:30.000 Jim Jordan's was, it was a really a pitch for Jim Jordan.
00:12:33.000 I hear that there's a lot of anger by the McCarthy team.
00:12:38.000 Cause they don't think Scalise has been a team player.
00:12:41.000 They don't think he's been part of the team.
00:12:42.000 He's been kind of over there, isolated, just setting himself up.
00:12:46.000 If you have to be an alternative, but he doesn't have any blood on his hand.
00:12:49.000 He's not holding a knife like with a Caesar's assassination.
00:12:53.000 Um, Boris Epstein.
00:12:57.000 It's tough to read that.
00:12:58.000 It's tough to read the relationship.
00:13:00.000 I mean, there are any interaction between the person who is at the top of the food chain,
00:13:04.000 which McCarthy's not been for a long time.
00:13:06.000 And they're number two after a while.
00:13:08.000 It gets fraught.
00:13:09.000 But that's not what this is about right now, right?
00:13:11.000 This is interpersonal.
00:13:12.000 But what it's about is we need a speaker.
00:13:16.000 The American people elected a Republican majority and we need a speaker.
00:13:20.000 And, you know, the sort of any personal concerns or all that's got to go.
00:13:25.000 All that has to go out the window.
00:13:27.000 What has to be decided is who's the best person to lead the Republicans in the House forward.
00:13:33.000 And that is for those Republicans to make a determination about.
00:13:38.000 And also, frankly, to hear their constituents.
00:13:41.000 I think you're going to see more of that.
00:13:44.000 Now, I'm hearing as we speak that you're getting some messages from Team McCarthy that they have some confidence that they may be close to getting some of the 20 to come their way.
00:13:54.000 It hasn't happened in these six rounds.
00:13:57.000 We'll see if it happens on the seventh.
00:13:59.000 But maybe there is some deal being cut as we speak that will result in that.
00:14:03.000 Again, you know, if history is an indication, it seems like that's going to be very difficult.
00:14:09.000 Boris, hang on for a second.
00:14:10.000 I want to hold you through the break.
00:14:11.000 Chip Roy has actually said that for the first time he's engaged in certain discussions.
00:14:15.000 So there's a lot of moving pieces here.
00:14:17.000 What we know is that the blunt force, I think, of Kevin McCarthy continue to pound these votes they understand is not working.
00:14:24.000 They're going to go to a plan B, whether that is part of it.
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00:15:34.000 Your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:15:38.000 Okay.
00:15:39.000 We're going to have Matt Rosendale from Montana at the bottom of the hour.
00:15:43.000 Bob Good at 6 o'clock.
00:15:44.000 We're going to have Ralph Norman at 630 and try to get, I think, Scott Perry working on Scott Perry if we can do that.
00:15:50.000 I want to, Manu Raju over at CNN, Bob Good, this is his tweet right now, Bob Good, an Artic McCarthy foe on what will change.
00:15:59.000 He believes McCarthy has to drop out.
00:16:01.000 Quote, we're hearing indications that there's an increasing awareness of that's the case and hopefully we'll get a resolution on this sooner so that we can consider other candidates.
00:16:13.000 But, as Boris, you know, the McCarthy team thinks they may have a couple of guys in that 20 that are prepared to listen to their case and maybe actually throw in with these guys with enough changes on rules, committees, etc.
00:16:28.000 But, right now, you agree, Boris, it's an extremely fluid situation and there's a lot of horse trading going on?
00:16:35.000 It's as fluid as it's ever been.
00:16:37.000 I think this is, right now, the heat of the horse trading, the heat of the negotiation is as we speak because the American people just don't have an appetite for it.
00:16:48.000 Republicans don't have an appetite for it. There's no interest in continuing this, you know, this logger jam and, you know, to not have a speaker and to not have a functioning House representative.
00:17:00.000 In the end, it becomes embarrassing. We've got to figure it out. They've got to come to a resolution. And again, we've got to start fighting against democratization. We've got to start fighting and targeting our political opponents.
00:17:11.000 We've got to ensure that we don't give in to Democrats like we did with that pathetic, disgusting omnibus.
00:17:18.000 And I would tell you, they speak from the American people. A lot of that is based on their disdain for the omnibus that was a Frankenstein, a complete canard.
00:17:29.000 Boris, this is about money and power. Every smart analyst today has said either on TV or in their tweets or in Vox had a big article about it.
00:17:40.000 What's freaking the Democrats out, they realize how hard we are right now and they all go right to the debt ceiling because they understand that's the way to keep the credit card going.
00:17:48.000 You've got and they're showing the joint, the split screen of of Sherrod Brown and and McConnell out there rubbing up on Joe Biden on the new bridge with the one point seven trillion dollar, you know, infrastructure bill.
00:18:04.000 Um, you see this just immense overspending out of control. How much is this tied to the future of the country financially that we're making a stand here to say, hey, we cannot continue to have the cartel in charge.
00:18:17.000 There's got to be a change and there's got to be a change in the Republican Party in the angle of attack of the Republican Party, sir.
00:18:24.000 Steve, it's not tied to it, it's chained to it. That's what this is all about. Are we going to continue to sell our children's and grandchildren's country and future down the river?
00:18:34.000 Or are we going to stand for something in this country? That's what it's all about. And whoever's the speaker, be it Kevin McCarthy, Scalise, Elise Stefanik, Jim Jordan, Biden, Donald, whoever it is, whoever it is, that person has to do is stand tall in those negotiations and not allow the traitors in the Senate.
00:18:56.120 And yes, that's exactly what they are. Every Republican who voted for that omnibus traded our country down the river.
00:19:03.560 And President Trump has been very vocal about Mitch McConnell and deservedly so. Mitch McConnell deserves everything he's got coming out of him, standing there smiling with his old pal Joe Biden.
00:19:13.280 That is the uniparty at its worst. That is the cartel at its worst. And we've got to fight against it.
00:19:19.740 Boris, how did they get you into your morning newsletter? How do people, what are your coordinates so people can follow you?
00:19:27.040 Thank you so much. Honor to be with you. Very important day. Continue to follow us every second. My information, the website is hot, boriscp.com, hot on boriscp.com, hot on getter at boriscp, on Twitter at boriscp, hot on social at Boris, and hottest on the gram, Boris on the scrub side.
00:19:42.180 Stay strong. God bless. And I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:19:44.460 Okay, thanks. There's an adjournment by voice vote. They're supposed to be back at 8 o'clock. There's a lot of negotiating going on.
00:19:54.160 We're going to try to get as many participants in here as possible. Matt Rosendale, Bob Good, Congressman Ralph Norma from South Carolina to the degree that they're not in the meetings or they can join us by phone.
00:20:05.020 So we're going to get to all that. There's so much important news.
00:20:07.700 As I told you, Juan Xishan, the really, Xi's hatchet man and the guy in back of One Belt, One Road and this whole consolidation of the Eurasian landmass, cutting the deals with Saudi Arabia, cutting the deals with Iran, kind of the chief dealmaker for Xi has been in Brazil.
00:20:22.320 We haven't even been able to cover that story, which is a massively important story.
00:20:26.380 Xi's right-hand man is down there at Lula's inauguration where they stole the election there.
00:20:33.660 And now we have a massive, massive geopolitical problem in the Western Hemisphere.
00:20:37.160 The other is Ben Burquam and the team have been doing amazing reporting down at the border.
00:20:41.700 We haven't had a chance to get to him, but I've got to tuck this in because Ben's got a lot to update us with.
00:20:46.020 Ben Burquam, Real America's Voice, lead investigative reporter on everything about the invasion of our country.
00:20:51.660 Ben, we've been fighting this huge fight up here, really a lot of it tied to the southern border.
00:20:56.280 People just think it's been too much happy talk and not enough action.
00:20:59.600 Give us an update. Where are you?
00:21:01.540 You've been sending us back incredible images. What's going on down there, sir?
00:21:06.660 Hey, Steve, I'm down here with Oscar Blue, and we're actually at the edge.
00:21:09.480 I've been here before. I've brought you here before. I just want to show you.
00:21:11.840 This is an area controlled by the cartels.
00:21:14.720 This is the end of the wall right here, San Luis, Mexico, on the border of Baja, California and Sonora.
00:21:21.040 Mexico, America. That's as close as it is.
00:21:24.800 Not a single Border Patrol agent here.
00:21:26.420 They've basically given this entire area up.
00:21:28.880 And what we have out here to my right, that is cartel land.
00:21:32.060 That's no man's land. That's controlled by the cartel.
00:21:35.320 We've been down there. I was down there just a few minutes ago.
00:21:38.360 I was getting passports. We've got India. We've got Bangladesh.
00:21:41.740 We've got Senegal. We've got Mumbai.
00:21:45.080 We've got Gambia.
00:21:46.400 All of this, just more of the same of what we've been seeing here.
00:21:49.080 But the point is, all of Border Patrol has been taken off the line.
00:21:53.100 I drove from San Luis to Yuma.
00:21:55.740 Not a single Border Patrol agent was on the line.
00:21:58.080 This area has effectively been given over to the cartels.
00:22:01.260 Blue?
00:22:02.100 Well, in the illegal activity.
00:22:04.140 Yes, sir. Go ahead.
00:22:06.420 Let me hear that, because I want to tell you guys into what's happening at Capitol Hill.
00:22:10.560 But, Oscar, let me hear what you have to say.
00:22:11.920 Mr. Bannon, the illegal and violent activity that has been occurring on this side,
00:22:18.100 and the most ridiculous thing is that we don't have no border agents from Mexico not working over here.
00:22:22.780 They just gave up.
00:22:23.700 They said, nobody's doing anything about it.
00:22:25.760 We're just going to give up.
00:22:26.740 And there's just illegal activity all over this area.
00:22:30.100 And it has repercussions, Mr. Bannon.
00:22:32.000 The delay to cross vehicles from Mexico to the United States of America has delayed into five hours to six hours.
00:22:39.560 And it has affected the citizens.
00:22:40.860 Why?
00:22:41.020 Because now the United States government is taking away customs and putting them in places where they are needed.
00:22:46.760 So now it is affecting the regular daily day citizen.
00:22:50.480 It is affecting people.
00:22:51.660 And it is just a complete disaster on this side.
00:22:53.780 As you can see, it is way, way, all the way open.
00:22:56.960 And last thing, Steve, while this is happening, we're spending $1.7 trillion to burn money to Ukraine on everything else.
00:23:05.920 Joe Biden has failed America.
00:23:07.620 The Democrats have failed America.
00:23:08.820 But so has Republican leadership.
00:23:10.760 They have been silent on this issue.
00:23:12.440 I have not heard McConnell one time.
00:23:14.540 They do not deserve another day of power.
00:23:16.980 They have allowed this to happen.
00:23:18.180 We need people in power on the Republican side that are going to fight for America, not allow this garbage to continue.
00:23:23.500 You know, in the $1.7 trillion that was just passed, that's discretionary spending for this coming year, not really one penny for putting up a wall or any real increase in border security.
00:23:35.020 But, you know, billions and billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars to basically effectuate the invasion.
00:23:41.540 And, of course, border security in the Middle East, in Africa, in Ukraine, but nothing here in the United States.
00:23:48.180 Just while you guys are down there in harm's way, at the border itself, we have the violent criminals with the cartels coming across, the fentanyl and all that.
00:23:56.920 How detached, when you see us focus so much on these huge debates on Capitol Hill, how detached from reality does it make you guys feel when you're sitting there at the cutting edge of what's actually going on in the decline of our country?
00:24:13.780 Ben, I'll start with you and then go to Oscar.
00:24:17.320 Yeah, it makes you feel like these people have absolutely no clue what's happening geopolitically in their own country.
00:24:24.020 They stand up there, they go to their fancy parties, they wear the right ties and the right pins on their suits, but they have no clue what the American people or, frankly, the people of the world are going through.
00:24:35.980 They are completely tone deaf.
00:24:37.520 And they're denying what is happening, completely they're denying when it is, you know, it's in the eyes of the public.
00:24:42.600 And not only that, that is, the Mexican government is not doing anything about it.
00:24:47.240 If the United States of America, that is, you know, in our eyes of the Mexican people, it is the leader of the world, is not doing something drastic to stop this.
00:24:54.840 The Mexican government, the corrupt Mexican government is going to continue with this, Mr. Ben, and it is just the fluency of fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine, trafficking of children, trafficking of women, all of this trafficking that is going to continue massively into the United States.
00:25:06.900 But meanwhile, nobody in the United States government is doing something drastically to say, you know what, this is the reality.
00:25:12.720 This is what is really happening.
00:25:14.440 It is sadly going to continue like this.
00:25:17.060 Guys, I want you to stay there.
00:25:18.560 I know you've been out this morning.
00:25:19.540 I want you to stay there.
00:25:20.380 I'm going to take a break.
00:25:21.500 I'm going to get Matt Rosendahl from Montana.
00:25:24.220 He's one of the 20 that have, thank God, blocked this madness and really started at the beginning of something that we can start to basically take control of.
00:25:32.820 But, Oscar, I have one question for you before we go.
00:25:35.360 We've got about a minute.
00:25:36.580 Is there any doubt in your mind?
00:25:37.900 You've gone in harm's way.
00:25:39.480 You've been in some tight and tough situations.
00:25:41.820 Is there any doubt in your mind, sir, that there's an active invasion of the United States of America going on even as we speak?
00:25:50.580 It's not only in the United States of America, sir, it's in our country of Mexico.
00:25:54.100 And sadly, it is going on in other countries, Central America and South America.
00:25:58.140 The good people of those countries, they consider this as what you just said, as an invasion.
00:26:04.960 And also, a lot of the Mexican conservatives, they are considering this as that because they have failed the political parties in Mexico and also the leftist political parties in the United States.
00:26:15.460 They have failed 100 percent to secure our borders and to secure the citizens first.
00:26:20.420 Oscar, Blue Ramirez, Ben Burquam, Real America's Voice, tip of the spear of the investigative team.
00:26:25.060 And guys, hang out. I'm going to take a commercial break here in a second.
00:26:28.400 We're going to come back with Matt Rosendale.
00:26:30.460 Also, I asked Dr. Gina to change her schedule around.
00:26:32.980 Dr. Gina was there at the beginning.
00:26:34.380 This has deep historical roots in what is happening today.
00:26:36.860 This is really a culmination of a 12-year fight.
00:26:40.920 And that's one of the reasons it's so nasty and so personal.
00:26:43.400 So here's what we're going to do.
00:26:44.600 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:26:46.000 We're going to come back in a minute.
00:26:46.880 I think we're going to try to get Matt Rosendale from Montana, who's been one of the hard five, one of the first ones out there, one of the real heroes of this.
00:26:55.120 He's going to get us up to date on everything that's going on in the negotiation.
00:26:57.780 Dr. Gina's going to join us.
00:26:59.280 We've got Bob Good.
00:27:00.280 We've got Ralph Norman.
00:27:01.500 We're trying to track down General Perry, Scott Perry, to get his take on things.
00:27:07.140 So a lot going on.
00:27:08.260 Strap in.
00:27:08.880 They're going to come back live at 8 o'clock.
00:27:10.500 At least that's what they're saying now.
00:27:11.740 I think they may ask for further adjournment, particularly if negotiations are going on.
00:27:16.460 Just hang in there.
00:27:17.160 You're in the war room.
00:27:18.040 Short break.
00:27:18.880 We're going to go to the great congressman from Montana when we return.
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00:29:01.300 Your host, Stephen K. Back.
00:29:04.440 Okay, welcome back.
00:29:05.560 I really want to thank people who changed their schedules around.
00:29:07.660 We've got Congressman Matt Rosendale, we're going to get to in one second.
00:29:10.420 It's been nice enough.
00:29:11.080 We've got Andy Biggs.
00:29:12.360 Congressman Biggs, Arizona, get us up to date on what's happening.
00:29:15.980 The audience has been following this, you know, minutely.
00:29:19.300 We've seen what happened.
00:29:20.400 We saw the voice vote to go to adjournment.
00:29:22.120 There's all kind of talk out there about negotiations.
00:29:24.320 Maybe McCarthy's dropping out.
00:29:26.080 Just from the perspective of the Core 5 and then the 20, where are we?
00:29:32.900 Well, the Core 5 is actually a little bit, maybe closer to 10 now.
00:29:39.240 And it's time for Kevin to move on.
00:29:42.940 It's time for us to get somebody new.
00:29:45.000 And we're expressing that, and you're seeing that a lot of individual, what I call individual conversation pods are taking place between only Kevin folks, people on the far side, on the other end of the spectrum of the conference.
00:30:00.220 They're coming over to talk to us.
00:30:03.140 We're talking to them.
00:30:04.760 And we're making clear that we're not budging on Kevin.
00:30:08.100 And some of them are like, well, then we're going to have to be here for a long time.
00:30:11.540 And I said, well, that's okay.
00:30:12.780 But others are like, well, what resolves it?
00:30:16.340 And I said, well, we've given you some names.
00:30:19.340 You haven't given us any names other than Kevin, and it's time to have plans for post-Kevin.
00:30:25.700 And that would be, you know, I was out there.
00:30:28.900 Jim Jordan was out there.
00:30:30.040 Byron Donalds is out there.
00:30:31.800 You know, there are other guys.
00:30:32.940 I mean, maybe a Mike Johnson, maybe a Kevin Hearn, maybe some others that are out there that can come to the front.
00:30:39.840 But where we sit right now is that there is, I guess Kevin wanted another last-ditch effort to negotiate.
00:30:52.240 His problem is when he rejected the negotiated offer on Monday night between several people, not me, not Rosendale, but several people went in.
00:31:05.940 And he could have gotten to 218, but he laughed them out of the room.
00:31:10.540 And then on Tuesday in conference, he basically misrepresented.
00:31:16.220 They felt everything that they had gone in to ask for.
00:31:21.480 The result is that he eroded their trust further.
00:31:25.380 And instead of being not just conciliatory but actually a leader and saying, let's have a rational discussion, what are reasons that we can't get there, what are reasons that we get there, how do we move this thing forward?
00:31:37.500 He unleashed on them and allowed some of his henchmen to unleash on those people and us, you know, Rosendale, myself, and threaten no committee assignments.
00:31:49.940 You've got another member of the conference going out, calling us terrorists, everything like that.
00:31:54.860 Those types of things that, you know, I think Rosendale and I were already solidified.
00:32:00.260 But they solidified other people and they actually moved some people into the questionable category who were looking for just a little inch to move over.
00:32:09.340 So I think if we go back tonight at 8, which we're supposed to, 8 Eastern time, and we hold another ballot, it seems to me that it's going to – it's either going to be a dead heat again or else our side is going to actually pick up some.
00:32:25.460 Kevin is not going to pick up anybody tonight.
00:32:28.600 And if it stays even, I think that it's the beginning of the final collapse of Mr. McCarthy's –
00:32:35.780 Did they threaten you the other day?
00:32:38.120 They threatened the folks with being stripped of their committee assignments, being stripped – so for the people back home, you would send somebody to Congress and these guys would strip you of your committee assignments if you stood up and voted against him for a speaker?
00:32:50.680 I just want to make sure that we're clear about that.
00:32:52.360 Yes, they did threaten that, and I've had a lot of people on the other side come up and say, that doesn't represent our ideas.
00:33:00.760 That's not going to happen.
00:33:01.860 And, of course, it's really not going to happen because let's say you strip 5, 10, 15, 20 people of their committee assignments.
00:33:08.640 First of all, then you can't fill your committees.
00:33:10.700 Second of all, you still have to try and govern.
00:33:13.580 And that's – you still have to try to get bills out, and you would never get bills out because we would be out there fighting.
00:33:20.980 And I would just –
00:33:22.080 Congressman – yeah, go ahead.
00:33:23.840 Go ahead, sir.
00:33:25.140 Okay, what I was going to say, one of the –
00:33:27.080 No, go ahead.
00:33:27.760 Is that these guys, with the vitriol that they're coming at us – and I think we've tried very hard – I've tried very hard to have an even demeanor and just try to lay out my case over and over again and calmly.
00:33:37.440 But with the vitriol and the attacks that have come, they're going to make it hard for us to coalesce around anybody new.
00:33:44.720 And when we do, because we will, we'll have to, they're going to make it hard for us to heal and get the work done that we need to.
00:33:53.180 And that – you could have this debate, but let's make it professional.
00:33:58.440 Let's make it the way this has to be instead of this personal attack and –
00:34:05.080 I'm confused about the process here.
00:34:07.260 Ken Buck was on CNN this afternoon saying, hey, look, if Kevin can get to 218, can show us to get to 218, I'm in for Kevin.
00:34:13.140 But if I don't see a path to 218 and we're just going to continue to do this, we've got to look at some alternatives.
00:34:18.420 I've got to look at alternatives.
00:34:19.080 This is Ken Buck, one of his big supporters.
00:34:20.640 So I thought that the process was going to be they were talk tough and they're going to keep you guys on the floor and they're going to vote and vote and vote and vote and vote until they break Andy Biggs and they break Matt Rosendale and they tell the people back in Montana and Arizona, hey, we're breaking these guys.
00:34:38.760 They're going to stay – and now I see a process where they keep running out and asking for adjournments.
00:34:44.340 What happened to all the tough talk that they were just going to sit there for day after day after day until you guys were broken?
00:34:51.200 What happened to that?
00:34:52.040 Why are they all of a sudden running around?
00:34:54.040 They wanted adjournment the day of 12 even to start off.
00:34:56.760 What is – are they organized at all?
00:34:59.240 They say that you guys are the agents of chaos.
00:35:02.540 You guys look pretty steady, Eddie.
00:35:04.520 They look like the chaotic and have no idea what they're doing, even how to whip this.
00:35:09.000 We are very steady.
00:35:10.780 We're organized.
00:35:11.480 We meet, we talk, we're transparent with each other.
00:35:15.380 If someone's feeling uncomfortable about an issue, we talk it through.
00:35:20.180 The other side is in panic mode, quite frankly, and they're not quite sure what to make of this.
00:35:26.080 They did not believe us when Matt, Bob Good, myself, Matt Gaetz, and Ralph Norman said that we're not going to vote for Kevin.
00:35:37.460 You need to pick somebody new.
00:35:39.080 They did not believe that.
00:35:40.240 And so as we have been steady, as we've been strong and tough and we've added to our ranks, they cannot believe it.
00:35:50.540 And so I think that there's a certain amount of disbelief there.
00:35:53.400 And I think that comes from a certain amount of hubris, quite frankly, on the part of Mr. McCarthy, and that's unfortunate.
00:35:59.780 But the bottom line is we've grown our side, and it will continue to grow because there is not a path right now for Kevin McCarthy.
00:36:09.140 And there's not going to be a path at 8 p.m. tonight Eastern when we go back.
00:36:12.900 And so they need and they want to adjourn.
00:36:19.420 They're trying to find a way to negotiate this.
00:36:21.960 But the problem for them is when we sit down with them and explain, well, okay, we want someone other than Kevin, they didn't believe that.
00:36:33.180 Now I think they've believed it.
00:36:35.080 Now they're trying to bargain.
00:36:36.240 They will accept it soon.
00:36:38.140 And I think it wouldn't surprise me if within the next 24 to maybe as long as 72 hours.
00:36:44.920 But anyway, if we have a new speaker from the Republican Party other than Kevin McCarthy in the next couple of days.
00:36:52.740 And from your perspective, you guys are prepared to fight this all the way to the end?
00:36:58.900 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
00:37:01.540 And I think that we continue to pick up momentum.
00:37:08.200 Victoria Sparks went to present.
00:37:10.640 She decided to vote present.
00:37:12.500 She didn't like the process.
00:37:13.880 Okay, that's fair.
00:37:15.560 That's good.
00:37:16.720 And then we've held our people strong.
00:37:18.860 They've held their people.
00:37:19.900 But the folks like Ken Buck who said, you know, look, if there's not a path, then I've got to go somewhere else.
00:37:30.600 And we're going to have to try to find a different path.
00:37:33.180 I think that people are feeling that and sensing it and seeing it.
00:37:37.840 That's why if you watched between while we wait for the tally after these ballots, what you'll see is development of conversation pods.
00:37:47.220 And in those pods are going to be a member of our side and there'll be two or three members on the other side.
00:37:53.400 They're going to come over and they're going to say, is this real?
00:37:55.360 I mean, is this where and what can we do?
00:37:57.400 How do we solve this?
00:37:58.340 I've been asked that repeatedly.
00:37:59.580 And I'm happy to talk to anybody on our conference and tell them what they think.
00:38:04.120 And so, Steve, that's what's going on.
00:38:07.040 It's developing.
00:38:08.960 It's fluid except for the people who are committed to giving us the best possible speaker to go forward with the fighting the Biden administration,
00:38:21.720 fighting the Senate where we need to fight it,
00:38:23.860 and advancing the Republican platform, the America First agenda, as much as we can with being in the, you know, in divided government.
00:38:34.720 Congressman Biggs, how do people follow you?
00:38:36.340 Do you have social media?
00:38:37.980 I do.
00:38:38.440 You can follow me at RepAndyBiggsAZ, at RepAndyBiggs.
00:38:44.320 Very important.
00:38:45.300 Congressman Biggs, thank you very much.
00:38:46.600 We're going to go back in a second to your beloved border down in the southern border of the United States.
00:38:52.900 I know something that's top of your mind.
00:38:54.200 So thank you very much.
00:38:55.000 Appreciate it.
00:38:57.980 Congressman Andy Biggs.
00:38:59.980 Congressman Matt Rosendale from Montana, the 2nd District.
00:39:03.540 Congressman, first off, you guys have been taking massive incoming for the mainstream media.
00:39:07.400 What are the folks in your district, when you talk to them,
00:39:10.740 what are they telling you about this process that's going through,
00:39:15.380 and particularly your vote against Kevin McCarthy as Speaker, sir?
00:39:20.480 They've been very supportive, Steve.
00:39:22.400 They recognize that for the last 10 years, 12 years,
00:39:26.920 that Kevin McCarthy has been part of a leadership team that basically has managed the demise of our country.
00:39:34.140 And they recognize that if we do not change the rules that we conduct the affairs of Congress,
00:39:40.040 and we do not change the leadership that implement those rules,
00:39:43.500 that we will not have change in Congress.
00:39:46.120 And everyone agrees that Congress is broke.
00:39:49.700 Well, if it's broke, you cannot continue to do the same things with the same people in charge
00:39:55.140 and just hope and pray that you're going to have a different outcome.
00:39:59.060 There are so many people that walk around and they're saying,
00:40:01.580 you know, oh, listen, trust me, just give us a chance.
00:40:04.160 We're going to do better this time.
00:40:05.800 But I'm sorry.
00:40:08.780 Andy Biggs laid out many of the things that we are dealing with,
00:40:12.700 but he basically left open the door for me to lay out the argument of why not, Kevin?
00:40:18.220 You know, people say, hey, he's been in leadership all this time.
00:40:20.680 Why not, Kevin?
00:40:21.340 Well, pretty much it's because he has been in leadership roles
00:40:25.180 and he has performed poorly since he was in those leadership roles.
00:40:30.280 We've got the budgets and the spending bills from 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 that he helped craft.
00:40:39.640 And Steve, in order to get those passed,
00:40:42.360 he had to get more Democrats to vote for them than he even had Republicans.
00:40:47.720 So now we're not talking about 20 members.
00:40:50.600 We're talking anywhere between 100 and 120 Republicans
00:40:55.500 that voted against each one of those provisions.
00:40:57.800 We gave him opportunities over the last two years to demonstrate leadership skills.
00:41:04.780 They needed Republican votes, the Democrats did, in order to pass the NDAA.
00:41:09.060 They needed Democrat vote, Republican votes in order to pass the continuing resolution
00:41:13.280 and also to pass the so-called infrastructure bill.
00:41:16.760 And in each occasion, he had the ability to extract common sense reforms and amendments
00:41:24.420 to each one of those legislations, including removing new Green Deal provisions,
00:41:28.900 including a bunch of money being spent on gender identity studies and surveillance,
00:41:35.980 including being able to reduce the or eliminate the vaccination mandates from our service members
00:41:42.320 and reinstitute them into their positions.
00:41:45.800 And on each turn, he did not do that.
00:41:49.840 And so we still gave him the benefit of the doubt and said,
00:41:53.300 if we can restore, and this is the conversation that you and I have had many times,
00:41:58.500 if we can restore regular order to Congress, we can get single-subject legislation,
00:42:04.300 we can get open rules so that instead of the rules committee, this group of nine highly gifted individuals
00:42:12.220 that he has hand-selected, and rather than have them interpret which amendments are going to be allowed
00:42:19.120 on any legislation and which legislation is going to go to the floor,
00:42:23.400 if it passes committee, it goes to the floor, you propose an amendment,
00:42:28.080 and you can vote those up or down instead of them crafting in a back room
00:42:32.000 all the legislation, 4,000-page bills, and then sending it out to us.
00:42:37.160 Congressman, can you hang on a second?
00:42:38.440 We want to take a short commercial break.
00:42:40.060 We want to stick with you.
00:42:41.100 We have other questions.
00:42:41.960 Congressman Matt Rosendale, Montana 2, is one of the original of the Hardcore Five,
00:42:47.660 one of the first individuals out of the box.
00:42:50.200 What did he see that no one else saw?
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00:44:56.540 Congressman Matt Rosendale joins us.
00:44:58.280 He's one of the original of five.
00:44:59.680 Congressman, in Montana, too, out in eastern Montana, a stunningly beautiful place in the
00:45:05.900 country full of patriots.
00:45:07.020 But you've got to work a hard day's work to make a living.
00:45:10.100 What do these folks think about the debt, the debt ceiling, the spending that's going
00:45:14.300 on here, that it looks like your group's trying to stop and trying to get some accountability?
00:45:18.060 When you go back and talk to the folks out there, what is their sense of this thing?
00:45:22.380 They do recognize that it has devalued the dollar, and this is driving this inflation.
00:45:27.980 And I want to tell you, it's a really big problem.
00:45:30.140 They're concerned about the $31-plus trillion that the government has mounted up.
00:45:35.700 And this is exactly what we're trying to avoid by crafting a rules package, Steve, that
00:45:40.980 allows Congress to actually participate so that we do not have these 4,000-page on-the-bus
00:45:47.480 bills that come through just jammed full of so much pork that, you know, it looks like
00:45:53.380 a luau, OK?
00:45:55.240 It's a terrible thing.
00:45:57.060 And yet, you're only given a few hours to review it, and they want you to take a vote
00:46:01.720 on it.
00:46:02.040 The rules that we are trying to get put in place would prohibit that.
00:46:06.080 Single-subject legislation, open rules that you can actually debate it on the floor and
00:46:11.180 bring amendments up to place transparency on the legislation that is coming forward.
00:46:16.660 They recognize that in eastern Montana.
00:46:18.860 They know that we need to have that transparency.
00:46:22.080 And I will tell you the other thing.
00:46:23.320 I mean, this administration, it's a little sidebar, but the energy problems that we have
00:46:28.180 now, the Biden administration has reduced our domestic production by about 2 million
00:46:33.340 barrels a day.
00:46:34.420 And I can tell you something, in eastern Montana, when you're average driving 150, 200 miles
00:46:39.560 a day, that adds up really quick when we see the cost of energy.
00:46:43.900 What did you see?
00:46:46.740 When you first announced this, people laughed at you guys.
00:46:49.640 They're not laughing now.
00:46:51.020 And regardless comes out here, you've changed the entire dynamic with the rules package,
00:46:54.580 the focus on what issues are going to be.
00:46:57.120 Look, it looks like you're on the cusp of removing McCarthy.
00:46:59.660 But you've changed the entire dynamic in Congress.
00:47:02.040 What did you see?
00:47:02.760 We've got a couple minutes.
00:47:03.520 What did you see then that is reality now?
00:47:07.160 All these commentators and CNN and MSNs, it's all real to them now.
00:47:11.480 But six or eight weeks ago, they were laughing at you guys.
00:47:14.960 That Kevin McCarthy is a transactional animal.
00:47:18.660 He's a creature of the swamp.
00:47:22.320 He's been either in the California state legislature or in Washington for so long that everything
00:47:29.100 is transactional.
00:47:30.600 And he continues to look at the next rung on the ladder and he uses lobbyist money, contributors
00:47:36.180 money and taxpayers money because he trades off legislation to folks in order to advance
00:47:41.420 his own personal gains.
00:47:43.740 And that is very problematic.
00:47:45.660 And what we're learning is that there's a lot of people around Washington that are very
00:47:50.460 transactional.
00:47:51.360 They don't have those those core principles, unfortunately, that guide them.
00:47:56.540 And fortunately for the people across America, there are some people that are not transactional
00:48:02.980 that have their core principles intact.
00:48:05.180 And they're willing to go to the mat for everybody across America to make sure that we restore
00:48:10.860 regular order in Congress.
00:48:12.220 We change the way this place is working and we change the people that are trying to run
00:48:16.920 it so that the people have a voice again.
00:48:20.340 Congressman Rosendale, how do people follow you, sir?
00:48:23.640 Uh, rep Rosendale at rep Rosendale at rep Rosendale.
00:48:29.700 There we go.
00:48:30.080 I've got it written down this time, Steve.
00:48:31.920 Uh, that's all my accounts, everything, man, Twitter, Facebook, getter, the whole nine yards.
00:48:37.820 We, we're on all of them at rep Rosendale.
00:48:40.900 Looks like you may have a long night tonight.
00:48:42.540 We'll be following you, sir.
00:48:43.440 Thank you so much for taking time and say that we'd love the folks out there in East of
00:48:46.660 Montana.
00:48:47.100 Make sure you tell them that war room loves them.
00:48:48.680 They love you too, Steve.
00:48:49.920 I'll tell you.
00:48:51.160 Thank you, brother.
00:48:51.960 Appreciate it.
00:48:52.480 You guys are the salt of the earth.
00:48:54.520 That's why we got some fighters up there because people have their back.
00:48:57.560 Uh, I want to bring in Dr.
00:48:59.020 Gina Lowell.
00:48:59.500 Dr.
00:48:59.840 Gina, I first met you, I think a week after the 2010, 2010, uh, Tea Party victory.
00:49:05.660 You were chairing up Sarah Palin meeting for the Tea Party in Chicago, Illinois.
00:49:11.160 This fight's a long time coming.
00:49:12.620 We've got a couple of minutes.
00:49:13.440 Tell people, this is not just about something that happened last week.
00:49:15.800 This is 12 years in building.
00:49:17.460 Is that correct, ma'am?
00:49:18.280 It really is, Steve.
00:49:20.420 And thank God for the gentleman you just had on.
00:49:23.420 Wow.
00:49:23.700 How, how, how blessed are we as a movement to have folks like that and to have you and
00:49:29.720 to have people who see the truth here.
00:49:31.380 And I think there are so many good things that can come from this fight.
00:49:35.160 We need to absolutely change this narrative.
00:49:37.520 Steve, you've been a part of changing the narrative going way back to that day, um, with lots of
00:49:43.520 us and your ground troops out there.
00:49:45.480 And this is one of those opportunities, you know, even if you look at the disparity between
00:49:49.440 what's happening right now with Donald Trump endorsing, right.
00:49:52.900 And, uh, and the rest of us saying, you know, no, there are, there's a lot of good messaging
00:49:57.100 to come of that.
00:49:57.860 One of the biggest things is we win no matter what, because we had the conversation that
00:50:02.000 we were pushed out of for how many decades, right.
00:50:05.160 That's number one.
00:50:05.880 But number two, doesn't this sort of destroy the left's narrative and the uniparty narrative
00:50:10.500 that everyone involved with Trump is some sort of cult when we're willing to say, no,
00:50:15.020 well, you know what?
00:50:15.460 We still have a fight and you may not be with us on this one, president Trump, but we still
00:50:19.760 respect you because you are the one who is willing to fight the uniparty establishment
00:50:23.600 when we need you.
00:50:24.880 I think those are two huge victory points that I want to make sure get out there on social
00:50:29.020 media and, uh, and that we talk about them.
00:50:32.000 No, I think it's an important point.
00:50:33.680 This is like real America's voice, your show, our show, we pride ourselves on being kind
00:50:38.280 of the headquarters of the Trump media, right.
00:50:40.520 When others have abandoned him, particularly Fox, but president Trump's for McCarthy and
00:50:44.600 he's like, he's been, you know, he knows him very well.
00:50:46.760 He's, he's come out that that may change tonight or tomorrow, but he's had his back.
00:50:50.840 Uh, and I think that's to be commended, but the Trumpism and the Trump movement in America
00:50:55.580 first saying, Hey, look, we love you, but on this fight, we got this, you know, hold my
00:50:58.940 beer.
00:50:59.420 We got, we got this.
00:51:00.880 We love you.
00:51:01.640 And it's not a cult.
00:51:02.860 That's right.
00:51:03.600 We can have different opinion.
00:51:05.180 Dr.
00:51:05.480 Gina.
00:51:06.800 Yeah, no, that absolutely proves it.
00:51:08.980 And, and, and I had a great chance to talk with president Trump about some of this last
00:51:12.740 night and I completely understand and respect where he's coming from.
00:51:15.640 But this says that our base is strong.
00:51:17.880 Our base is focused.
00:51:18.840 Our base is independent and our base is not afraid to speak out.
00:51:21.900 But we also know we have a fearless leader in president Trump that we may not always agree
00:51:26.400 with, but we will always respect for, he has fought for us.
00:51:29.360 And so we will turn around and fight for him again and again.
00:51:32.440 Dr.
00:51:32.860 Gina is one of the founders of the tea party movement.
00:51:34.700 Dr.
00:51:34.980 Gina, how, what's your social media?
00:51:36.300 How do you get to the show?
00:51:37.220 All of it.
00:51:38.320 Yeah.
00:51:38.800 Um, so on real America's voice at 7 PM EST every single night and it's the Dr.
00:51:43.460 Gina primetime show.
00:51:44.600 And on social media, you can find me at real Dr.
00:51:47.540 Gina and special love out there for our friends in the getter chat.
00:51:51.120 Uh, Dr.
00:51:52.060 Gina, thank you so much, particularly all the years and the vineyard that you labored to
00:51:55.720 make this moment happen.
00:51:57.200 A lot of people work very hard for many, many years to make sure that we could actually take
00:52:01.000 control here.
00:52:01.840 Command by negation, as we call it.
00:52:03.640 Dr.
00:52:03.920 Gina, thank you so much.
00:52:04.880 Look forward to seeing you so much.
00:52:06.440 Thank you, Steve.
00:52:07.100 Thank you so much.
00:52:08.380 Okay.
00:52:08.780 Short break.
00:52:09.380 Uh, Bob Good, uh, um, Ralph Norman.
00:52:13.840 We're going to try to get a couple of three others, maybe Scott Perry, maybe Matt Gates.
00:52:17.340 You never know.
00:52:18.360 They're supposed to go back on the floor at eight o'clock.
00:52:20.140 We're going to take the next hour to get everybody up to speed.
00:52:22.620 Short break.
00:52:23.140 Back in a moment.
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