Bannon's War Room - Episode 2444： Fighting Back Against The Ruling Class

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.360 these people you're just not gonna get a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.320 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried

00:00:20.340 to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen

00:00:23.520 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:31.660 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:38.780 is to save my country this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k bannett

00:00:47.400 it's saturday 14 january in the year of our lord 2023 we're not even halfway through the month and

00:00:55.540 we can always tell this year is going to be even more historic than 20 21 22 it's just absolutely

00:01:02.100 stunning how um what they say they're they're they're uh decades in which nothing happens and

00:01:08.780 there's a week in which decades happen we're coming to a showdown and we're telling everybody

00:01:13.600 everybody take a deep breath this audience because you are the full faith and credit

00:01:20.000 of the united states and you want to know how you can tell that look what's happening out in south

00:01:24.300 dakota those hard-working people on a saturday and these are people that have back-breaking work

00:01:31.120 on a saturday the one day that maybe after they get everything done they can take some time off

00:01:36.980 on a saturday they're crammed into a hall in some you know some some meeting hall

00:01:42.280 to voice uh they want their vote as precinct men right this is what john frederickson these guys are

00:01:48.800 fighting for this is a populist revolt in this country the little guy you the full faith and

00:01:53.920 credit and the showdowns coming on the debt ceiling this is why they panicked this is why janet

00:01:58.820 yelen sent the letter we told you this was going to happen they want to put a gun to your head

00:02:02.820 they're they're hostage taking we're out of cash we're out of cash you have to do this full faith

00:02:07.740 and credit no you are the full faith and credit of this nation never let anybody you know i went to

00:02:14.020 hbs i went to goldman sachs i can count and i can tell you morgan stanley and goldman sachs are not

00:02:22.180 the full faith and credit first boston's not the the tech oligarchs out there they never defended

00:02:27.460 anything in their life right the big corporations are not this uniparty crap up here on capitol hill is

00:02:33.280 not it's you it's the cops the firemen the teachers the insurance salesmen the the carpenters the

00:02:41.380 people that go to work those people in that hall out there in south dakota that's the full faith and

00:02:45.340 credit this nation they talk about the robust nature of our capital markets the liquidity of

00:02:50.380 our capital market why you know the united states you start talking to say why it's good liquidity i

00:02:54.240 can get in and out of a security i can buy a bond or get out of it i can buy a stock there's always a

00:02:59.080 bit away why is that it's not the sec it's not our laws it's not our regulations we've got strong

00:03:05.460 laws good laws sometimes regulators on top of us sometimes they're not but the rest of the world's

00:03:11.140 got that too japan's got it singapore's got it city of london's got it what don't they have they don't

00:03:17.940 have you they do not have you that in every crisis since this country was founded has come through

00:03:26.240 and look at the 20th century look we bailed them out in world war one we then bailed them out in

00:03:30.360 world war ii we then bailed them out in the cold war and now you're you've already spent a hundred

00:03:35.320 billion dollars over in ukraine to bail them out again that's you you are the full faith and credit

00:03:41.500 this nation and your voice is going to be heard and that's what they're panicked about that's one

00:03:44.460 of the reasons we go so quickly they understand you're getting stronger every day right and they

00:03:49.260 can see this in the in the um in the investigations also the the top as i tell you i don't know if you

00:03:56.620 have many other hosts that have had a top secret compartment clearance right a couple of times i had

00:04:03.840 one back in the when i was a naval officer and at the white house and i can tell you the chain of

00:04:11.020 custody was broken and that is a hardcore felony full stop and why is his why is his white house

00:04:18.260 counsel's office miss dana remus why is she leaving the white house counsel's office i don't know they

00:04:25.920 say july august september october why is she leaving that and why is she rummaging around this is the

00:04:31.020 question they want to answer why are his personal lawyers the golden meal ticket in this town as i tell

00:04:38.820 you is be the personal lawyer to the president of the united states when i talk about lawyers the white

00:04:43.320 house counsel is the lawyer for the office of the president from general washington all the way down

00:04:48.660 to the current time the white house counsel john dean did not represent richard nixon he represented

00:04:53.800 the president of the united states at that time like don mcgain did a donald trump the president's

00:04:59.980 personal lawyers are outside that's the golden meal ticket in a town run by lawyers trust me they're

00:05:06.540 getting paid just to get hey you got to get me a meeting i got to have me i get you got to get this to

00:05:10.460 him what so they're not doing they're not moving boxes they're not in they're not in closets checking

00:05:17.380 out the paperwork why were the lawyers there they're lying about everything why were the lawyers there

00:05:23.620 and now as i told you anybody over there that does not have a compartment of clearance that's also a

00:05:29.100 violation i'll guarantee you in her white house counsel's day she had a she had a uh a compartmented

00:05:38.460 sci top secret clearance there's no conspiracies but there's no coincidences we're going to have

00:05:48.700 mike howell from heritage here join us in a second about the uh about oversight over at heritage and

00:05:54.280 what's going on here i'm gonna play a call over for i gotta finish with fredericks john this thing

00:05:58.660 at the rc so you're telling me politico is reporting about you and rev putting this on

00:06:03.500 you're going to hold it anyway if rana doesn't hit the bid you're going to have fredericks and

00:06:08.040 i hear that he's he's told politico he's now qualified with three states or a territory in a

00:06:14.680 couple of states harmeet's in you're going to do it you're going to do it whether rana shows up or

00:06:19.540 not you're going to do the debate yes and uh good news for mike lindell he has confirmed that he's now

00:06:27.100 going to be officially nominated which means he's got a bunch of votes because you got to have at least

00:06:31.320 six in order to get nominated two out of three from at least three states so he's probably got

00:06:37.340 eight ten votes right now mike's going to be there campaigning but look it all ties together steve what

00:06:42.220 you said earlier is this is a populist movement and we're not going to be shut out i think you saw

00:06:48.000 with the 20 people that voted against mccarthy and the five that held firm and if you if you look at

00:06:54.340 the number of people on our base that didn't want mccarthy there it was a it was a stunning number

00:07:01.020 you look at the number of people on our base that want change of the rnc it's almost 90 percent all

00:07:07.000 we're saying is we don't want to get cut out of the process we want to be included you talk about

00:07:11.580 inclusion hey you want to you want to run for an unprecedented fourth term after losing five

00:07:18.540 races in a row fine tell us why convince us that you're the one don't hide from us behind 168

00:07:26.640 that no arrogance and the elitism that is going on is affrontive and it's disgraceful steve but but

00:07:33.560 but even but even even people that oppose it realize now and admit that the one week we took

00:07:41.660 to change the behavior of the cartel had tremendous benefit they can see this in the investigation they

00:07:47.260 can see this on the way people are aggressive they see the way people have come together so

00:07:51.480 the same thing at the rnc uh what day would this real quickly what what day in time are you planning

00:07:56.860 right now to do this with john fredericks media and real america voice what what's your what people

00:08:01.880 should carve aside what day right now is scheduled for uh wednesday january 25th two days before the

00:08:10.120 voting and right now is from 1 p.m to 2 15 p.m pacific time that specific time uh it's going to be live

00:08:18.080 there we'll find a location etc but uh if mcdaniel uh does not show up we're going to go forward with

00:08:24.100 it too but i encourage you to do that because if you want to lead the party you have to be able to

00:08:29.840 talk to us because without us you're not there there's no apparatus and we're done with it we're

00:08:35.640 sick of being carved out and it's not let them eat cake or pound sand we have a right to have a seat

00:08:41.940 at the table because we are the ones that elect the 168 hang on it's 1 15 to 2 15 that 2 15 pacific

00:08:51.200 time that's that's in the middle of the war room let me call my agent i'm just kidding you john no

00:08:55.940 no it isn't we will give up we know we will it's one one 15 minutes of war room that's okay yes but

00:09:04.260 we'll get you involved in it that's why i scheduled that one that way no no no no i don't know it has to

00:09:09.700 be it it has to be totally non-partisan that has to be totally not i'd like your guy i'd like your

00:09:14.780 guy anderson you can carve out 15 minutes of the war we'll do that we'll serve the war room's here to

00:09:19.380 serve the people call my agent this is frederick's elbowing into my afternoon show okay okay before i

00:09:26.100 let you go i got mike hellup i gotta raise a problem real quickly this this this is your this is your side

00:09:33.340 this is your side hustle your main thing what who do you like today who do you like today in your picks

00:09:38.160 i tell you what i got i got three games today you you want to go to godzilla wins.com that's where it

00:09:44.920 all is godzilla wins.com this i've been hot the last couple weeks this is where i catch fire i got

00:09:50.680 three games i love this week i love san diego where the charges l la charges minus the two and a half

00:09:56.860 going to jacksonville i think they win that game handily i love minnesota minus three uh at home with

00:10:03.540 the giants is this game should be seven this is all new york i don't get that new york money giants

00:10:08.860 are a fraudulent team that's two and then i love dallas i love dallas beating the goat going to

00:10:15.120 tampa tampa if if tampa was in any other division they wouldn't even have made it as a wild card

00:10:20.440 i love dallas minus two and a half go to godzilla wins.com godzilla wins.com

00:10:25.300 okay okay brother i'll see you monday uh on the dead ceiling thank you sir john frederick's

00:10:30.260 fighting the good fight call my agent okay i'm gonna play uh cold open i'm gonna do this again

00:10:35.720 for for my cow given he's running oversight over heritage let's play uh joe walsh make of what's

00:10:40.980 going on with this this far right group in the in the house right now what is it they want and how

00:10:47.120 will they succeed and how do they make sure that these 18 uh republicans who won in in biden

00:10:53.680 districts and the many others who are otherwise moderate don't just sort of say we'll vote with

00:10:58.860 democrats on some of these things well they don't really care about that ali what they're giving it

00:11:04.180 what they're doing is they're giving their base voters what they want i'd add to what max said the one

00:11:10.100 defining characteristic of these republicans these next two years is revenge these two years are all

00:11:17.820 about the are all about revenge the base of the republican party ali believes the 2020 election

00:11:24.880 was stolen house republicans reflect that belief so they're going to investigate fauci and covet

00:11:31.740 they're going to investigate big tech who they thought helped steal the election and they're going to go

00:11:38.080 after the deep state who they believed helped steal the 2020 election i i you you i'm so glad you

00:11:46.840 emphasize this in your opening this is revenge this is about settling scores and for most of these

00:11:54.140 republicans ali it will work they don't care necessarily about these other moderate republicans

00:12:00.340 some of them we've talked don't even care if republicans retain control of congress in two years

00:12:07.220 this is about feeding the base

00:12:09.400 okay mike how of that runs the heritage oversight project is this revenge mike is when you guys look

00:12:19.260 at this is this about revenge and payback sir or is it about it's about making sure things are sorted

00:12:25.180 out mike how it's about accountability first and foremost that's it we haven't had it for years

00:12:30.500 joe walsh and msnbc are right to be shaken in their boots but uh this is about accountability i mean

00:12:37.260 we can go from domestic policy to foreign policy incidents across the spectrum there have not been

00:12:43.460 significant looks into them or anybody held responsible for the past two years with democrats

00:12:48.480 in complete control of the house and senate and white house accountability is coming that's what it's

00:12:53.700 about mike give us we're gonna take a break and we'll come back specifically what you're doing about

00:13:00.240 biden pen but give us an overview of when we see heritage oversight we have an oversight committee on the

00:13:06.140 at the house what is heritage oversight so the institutional right has not played in this game

00:13:12.160 before the left has done it's a great effect i mean look at you know all their organizations and

00:13:17.680 funding and law firms that have supported the oversight and investigations work that created all

00:13:22.520 sorts of chaos for the trump administration well that time is over the heritage oversight project is

00:13:27.080 going on offense with our institutional power we have brought in a team of top-notch investigators

00:13:32.940 lawyers and we're working with capital hill day in and day out developing the record suing the

00:13:38.980 biden administration for documents getting a lot of documents using advanced technology and uh we're

00:13:44.960 ready to rock and roll as soon as this congress you know gears up and situates the committees this is

00:13:50.300 about accountability and we're here to help that okay and mike did this amazing uh remember they did

00:13:57.360 the the analysis the investigation on the cell phone data that showed you exactly how the illegal alien

00:14:02.760 situation is coming across the southern border and how the ngos are a force multiplier to do that

00:14:09.200 was actually brilliant so we got a lot of faith in your investigators take a short break the oversight

00:14:14.320 group project over at heritage is deep now into this this horrible situation with this uh highly

00:14:21.100 classified compartment at top secret remember these are there's a chain of custody there this is a crime

00:14:28.760 it's a felony if you break the chain of custody that's how uh how highly secret these things are even

00:14:34.260 above top secret dana remus hmm white house counsel's office to his private lawyer to in the closet

00:14:44.540 rummaging around curiouser and curiouser michael of heritage oversight project next in the war room

00:14:54.480 so for the first time like the left would now have an institution that is hunkered down to really

00:15:09.760 supply uh support and i think force multiplier for the normal investigation oversight um function

00:15:17.720 and that is heritage um heritage organization their oversight project mike how runs it mike i want to

00:15:24.100 be very specific you're you're all over this but look this this situation when they ask chuck schumer

00:15:30.200 when everybody's running around and covering and you see an m so you see there's nothing to see here

00:15:34.380 there's nothing it's inadvertent it's inadvertent inadvertent intent has nothing to do with anybody on tv

00:15:38.940 talking to the tent has nothing to do with there's a chain of custody on a compartment of top secret

00:15:44.260 documents a chain of custody in other words that comes to you it doesn't come to some room it doesn't

00:15:48.680 come to a group doesn't come to your secretary doesn't come to your grundoon body man comes to you

00:15:53.820 and your name's on it there's a cover even before you lift it up that covers it this is the most

00:15:59.760 secure secrets in our government right military political economic diplomatic all of it

00:16:10.740 ukraine iran uk we know that for now the compartment of top secret and it's in a place that's funded i

00:16:20.680 think by the chinese communist party and you're going to get to the bottom of it are you not

00:16:24.840 mike how sir yeah we are actually went over there a couple days ago to drop off a courtesy copy

00:16:32.240 of a foil we submitted to the national archives in the department of justice which we will be suing on

00:16:37.740 immediately at first opportunity so you're absolutely correct the central issue here

00:16:42.360 is what is the type of document who had access to it what were they doing at a chinese communist party

00:16:48.260 funded think tank during the you know former vice president's pay to play multi-million dollar scheme

00:16:54.160 but where i am most focused in trying to train our fire of the heritage oversight project is the

00:17:00.860 election interference aspect of this so we got to look around the corner a little bit they appointed a

00:17:05.440 special counsel to look into this the reason that they did that was to wall off all investigative

00:17:11.420 inquiries essentially congress is going to try to get in this game doj is going to say no we have a

00:17:17.220 special counsel we'll talk to you about in a couple years you can't have anything related to ongoing

00:17:21.260 criminal investigations of the classified material but there's another aspect here that i think should

00:17:26.540 be one of the chief focuses of congress and it is our litigation investigative focus that is the

00:17:31.940 decision by doj national archives president biden do not inform the public that on november 2nd they

00:17:39.660 discovered this material when a midterm election was six days away that is political weaponization

00:17:45.460 it is a election interference on a major scale had that information been out there the public would

00:17:52.040 have been better informed in advance of the midterm elections and i think we would have had different

00:17:56.260 numbers in the house and the senate right now that is my focus election interference yet again

00:18:01.840 i love this so walk me through that one more time hal you're saying you want to know everything that

00:18:09.940 led to how they got in the closet rummaging around and finding it and why they didn't immediately come

00:18:16.200 forward and tell people hey we have a problem is is that the thrust of your investigation

00:18:21.260 that's exactly right i went over the archives uh on thursday and i laid out 10 different press

00:18:27.740 releases where the national archives affirmatively released information related to president trump's

00:18:32.720 handling of classified materials so we got 10 press releases we have loads of backdoor information

00:18:38.700 going out through leaks via the doj merrick garland and the archives press comments galore yet not one

00:18:45.500 single peek about such a monumental discovery on november 2nd six days before the election i want the

00:18:51.140 war room posse to be familiar with one name here that is deborah wall the head of the national

00:18:56.620 archive she is the lowest learner of this administration she is a bureaucrat who sat on

00:19:02.320 this information when she had an affirmative duty to disclose it both ethically and in my opinion

00:19:07.520 legally based on her past practice of disclosing every last thing about donald trump for political

00:19:12.720 purpose is there besides uh their account is there is there criminality in the cover-up here because

00:19:20.480 you're talking about the cover-up right the crime itself i'm telling you right now as somebody said

00:19:25.720 these clearances this is these are black and white felonies don't let anybody spin you there are guys

00:19:31.540 and they're men and women in leavenworth okay that have you know that one guy we talked about the other

00:19:37.360 day had taken stuff home to work boom in the big house over there these are these are the most secure

00:19:43.880 secrets we have you're saying from the time they found it in the in rummaging around the closet which is a

00:19:50.480 that the national archives and others conspired to suppress this information so the voting public

00:19:57.380 would not know that when they went to the polls on 8 november sir there's no other reasonable

00:20:03.140 explanation steve and this is why i'm using the heritage foundation oversight project to sue the

00:20:08.540 national archives for all the emails communications etc and also the department of justice i want to know

00:20:15.260 what were the conversations that that happened around that did the doj give a stand down order

00:20:19.980 did the white house counselor biden's personal lawyers give a stand down order there is no

00:20:25.060 justifiable reason that on november 2nd they did not alert the public to this when the midterm election

00:20:30.200 was six days away whereas throughout the course of an entire year they had been uh taking every

00:20:35.980 opportunity to disclose information about president trump i believe that this reaches into the area of

00:20:42.000 potential criminality based on waste fraud and abuse and political weaponization of all these

00:20:48.060 functions of government we pay these people salaries to be press agents for the national archives that is

00:20:53.520 our information we pay their salaries to inform us of major events related to it the fact that they

00:20:59.420 made a political decision to hide this information cover it up i believe ventures into very serious

00:21:06.480 territory where i think serious allegations of potential criminal conduct can be made against

00:21:11.520 everybody involved and that's why we need to focus in on deborah wall as one aspect she's the head of the

00:21:17.080 archives doj is not going to play ball with congressional investigations on this there is no reason why uh the

00:21:23.620 special counsel's investigation should put up a firewall on the aspect of the cover-up okay

00:21:29.720 special counsel focuses in on the the criminal classified uh handling of the information the cover-up is a

00:21:35.940 completely separate question and i think that's where uh we pull out that card this house of cards

00:21:40.900 crumbles we're talking about election interference yet again

00:21:44.700 i like your i like your theory of the case give me one more time what you're saying about the what

00:21:51.920 they they spring-loaded and jumped into a special counsel here you believe your theory of the case at

00:21:57.940 heritage rain oversight they did that to wall it off so they could protect him in the run-up to 2024

00:22:03.620 forward just keep saying ongoing investigation ongoing investigation is that your theory of the

00:22:07.720 case sir absolutely and that's where this legal battle is heading in the house rules package they

00:22:13.540 adjusted you know the new what's called the church committee uh the weaponization of the federal

00:22:17.420 government uh the house rules basically say that the house has access to files related to ongoing

00:22:22.080 investigations doj is going to fight that you know very very hard adding in a special counsel adds in

00:22:28.060 another layer of obstructing congress from getting out that information and so knowing that's where

00:22:33.700 the legal fight will be and we'll be in court for for months and heritage will be a central part of

00:22:38.140 that i want to start poking into areas where they have no justifiable reason for withholding

00:22:42.980 information and that relates to the national archives and doj and stand down orders not to release this

00:22:48.920 information i think that is probably some of the uh worst conduct related in all this and that's what we

00:22:54.460 are suing on and we're going directly to the heart of that beast this is a whole all hands on deck

00:22:59.020 effort but that's where heritage oversight is training our fire next week we'll have a lot more

00:23:03.280 on this uh we're releasing some paper uh explaining the theory in more detail what when you think that'll

00:23:10.640 be that you'll release this paper to outline your your battle plan here by midweek you think

00:23:15.380 yes sir so right now we have our team of investigators uh laying out all different aspects of the theory

00:23:21.780 that i i just laid out to include a collection a mass aggregation of every single statement that

00:23:27.040 was made about uh president trump and the documents of mar-a-lago and the absolute complete duplicity

00:23:33.260 of their handling of that uh compared against the the legal case i just laid out of the waste fraud

00:23:39.700 abuse and weaponization and also next steps for congress to take to zero in on this and we will put the

00:23:46.380 full power of the heritage foundation and all of our conservative allies to focus in on capitol hill

00:23:51.080 make sure those steps are followed through on because again this is about election interference

00:23:55.280 we do not have free and fair elections in this country when the weapons of the federal government

00:24:00.500 are involved in withholding information this is very similar to the withholding the hunter biden laptop

00:24:05.420 story and suppressing it and uh we just can't stand for that we got another uh presidential election

00:24:09.920 in two years we need to get the deep state out of our election uh mike we want to have you back on

00:24:17.060 we released that paper right now how can everybody get to heritage and find out what you guys are

00:24:22.000 working on and your social media absolutely so on getter and twitter we're just at a heritage uh i am

00:24:28.140 at and how tweets on twitter uh we will be uploading these these memos that ngo study you mentioned

00:24:33.740 uh is up there using cell phone technology to track some of the worst actors in this border crisis

00:24:39.200 a lot of that type of contact coming from us we're suing the pants off the biden administration

00:24:43.200 and we need your help to uh you know help point us in the right direction and call on members of

00:24:47.840 congress to actually follow through on these things because they're the utmost important

00:24:50.920 mike a fantastic work glad to have you on here proud to have you on here fantastic thank you sir

00:24:59.020 this is what this is what it means to be on offense right you have institutions organizations

00:25:06.280 people are focused and trust me they're freaked out they're completely freaked out this is the reason

00:25:11.440 they jump to the special prosecutor we call for they jump to the special prosecutor right away

00:25:15.620 they're going to try to stonewall everything this is why jim jordan announced their own independent

00:25:20.280 investigation yesterday um and but they also don't know that guy's deep state but they don't know where

00:25:25.680 these investigations will go this is why they jumped the gun and pulled the trigger on the sending the

00:25:32.560 letter in the debt ceiling and everything in the debt ceiling right now the watchword right now is take a

00:25:37.600 deep breath we're not doing anything they're working on a prioritization of uh of payments plan

00:25:42.820 the house is to give them say hey take a deep breath it's not going to shut down tomorrow you've

00:25:48.380 already said it's going to be june we have to see the cash flow model in addition we have to see this

00:25:53.420 debacle that's happened over the federal reserve who gave them authorization to do this it's without

00:25:58.780 congressional authorization the and mike howe just said it what what heritage oversight is working on is

00:26:05.020 accountability they haven't been accountable the administrative state is not held accountable

00:26:11.280 it's grown as a leviathan because they have this fiscal domination because you have um these budgets

00:26:18.000 that have these massive deficits in modern monetary theory they said well it don't matter

00:26:22.100 we have zero interest rate they don't matter we don't have zero interest rates now you don't

00:26:26.300 have negative interest rates now you get 16 and a half trillion dollars of personal credit card debt

00:26:31.080 it's crushing the american people crushing the american people and now we're going to have

00:26:35.580 massive interest payments all this debt they ran up they ran up you didn't run up they ran up

00:26:40.880 you're the solution to the problem they're the problem always remember that they're going to call

00:26:46.280 you every name in the book but here's the difference right now they're people on offense

00:26:51.400 the hunted have become the hunters where in your nation's capital months ago that they intend to

00:27:00.580 use their tenure to investigate democrats the rules package includes a provision that allows the house

00:27:05.820 to create a new subcommittee to investigate the origins of covet and to scrutinize the work of dr anthony

00:27:10.640 fauci james comer the kentucky congressman and the new chair of the oversight committee has also

00:27:15.600 begun a probe of the biden's and their family business it's going to include a review of hunter

00:27:19.620 biden's laptop the contacts contents of which conservatives believe would have doomed biden's

00:27:25.620 presidential bid two years ago comer's already requested the biden family's financial records

00:27:30.460 from the treasury department he also wants twitter executives to answer lawmakers questions regarding

00:27:35.640 allegations that they kept the story from spreading by limiting its reach on social media

00:27:40.060 then there's the new select committee on the weaponization of the federal government which will

00:27:45.320 be led by jim jordan the new chief of the house judiciary committee and a close trump ally

00:27:50.200 who's also been implicated in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election it is still unclear

00:27:55.660 exactly what this committee will be investigating because its purpose has been left intentionally vague

00:28:01.780 unlike the january 6 committee there's no specific inciting incident or event

00:28:06.560 yes yes yes there is it's the administrative state it's it's all of it this is a new church

00:28:12.940 commission so i'll get the msnbc pull the files go study the church commission we're gonna get to

00:28:18.160 the bottom of all of it and they're in full panic mode everywhere new investigations gotta be of the

00:28:23.200 federal reserve how in the hell they lose a trillion dollars this is this is a debacle on every aspect of

00:28:31.260 the government no accountability the administrative state and you got the you got the collaborationist

00:28:35.840 uh guys in the senate uh are just as bad okay we got two things i want to go to england uh for a

00:28:42.440 minute we got to talk about what's happening in the economy over there particularly the strikes

00:28:45.800 because you're starting to see what happens when you mismanage your finances then i want to go to

00:28:50.580 the vatican i get harnwell cardinal pels uh who dropped a thermonuclear weapon on the uh on the uh

00:28:57.880 metaphorically on the on the vatican hierarchy the curia i want to go to that uh peter mckelvaney hearts of oak

00:29:04.280 is is the to have the tory so mismanaged this thing is this what's what are causing these

00:29:11.760 massive you got strikes everywhere i think every time i look at another element of people that work

00:29:18.180 for a living and provide a service i see a strike is that going to be the future of america what's

00:29:24.680 happening in the united kingdom sir well let me touch on the strikes then maybe the reasons behind it

00:29:30.120 at the moment uh last month the nhs was hit by industrial action we had 25 000 paramedics emergency

00:29:37.780 care assistants ambulance technicians all on strike we've got hundreds of thousands of workers all

00:29:43.620 across the country have voted to go on strike including rail workers ambulance workers royal mail

00:29:49.560 civil servants it's hitting nearly every sector and back in november you had university lectures 70 000

00:29:57.340 university lectures and teachers went on strike in scotland and that was the first time since the 80s

00:30:03.220 you've had a strike in the education sector in scotland they're all demanding a 10 pay rise then

00:30:09.600 you've got rail workers so we've got a rail strike again we've had a rail strike over christmas new year

00:30:15.460 it's coming up again later this year and for those in watching in the u.s we are an economy that people

00:30:22.220 use trains to get around people rely on trains we don't have two car families here by and large so

00:30:28.560 everyone relies on trains and they don't work you don't get to work full stop so we have rail workers

00:30:35.300 going on strike uh nurses and medics on strike the nurses actually are on strike their ballot until may

00:30:41.700 2023 to go on strike and at the moment we have junior doctors are demanding a 26 percent pay rise

00:30:49.780 within of the royal mail firefighters it's literally across the whole sector and it's generally driven by

00:30:56.920 demand on pay um this of course is a concerted government as you said steve have completely

00:31:03.440 mismanaged our economy uh we have crisis in our health service we have attacks at the highest level

00:31:11.060 since second world war we have our debt at the highest level ever we have inflation at 10.5 percent

00:31:17.140 across europe it's 15 percent um and there is no political direction actually this at the moment

00:31:24.140 we have issues we have a government that's on autopilot and i've never seen it before where

00:31:28.600 literally i don't know who's in control uh rishi sunak is not on the tv screens regularly talking he's

00:31:35.040 actually quite behind the scenes and i don't know who's running and for all of boris johnson's

00:31:40.400 feelings teresa may's feelings at least they were there in the forefront they seem to be driving it

00:31:45.160 but here in the uk we don't know who's driving it and this seems to have happened and no one is

00:31:51.180 taking control no one is taking responsibility there are no discussions with these unions and

00:31:56.700 as i said even on the on the medic side we have strikes planned until the middle of may

00:32:01.980 what is is anybody going to step up in the tory party and even internally do you get a sense we

00:32:12.140 get about two minutes or you get any sense that somebody's inside saying hey we got to get a plan

00:32:16.120 here we got to present it to the people or we're going to get blown out and be out of power for 20

00:32:20.980 years is is there a sense of crisis inside the the tories or even the conservative element of that

00:32:28.020 the more conservative element that that fears labor taking over for 20 or 25 years well we don't

00:32:34.480 really have a conservative element when you're at the taliban 20 i wish we had that we don't have that

00:32:39.760 we don't have anyone who's really pushing back and they're all thinking of their their career

00:32:44.760 labor are 15 plus points ahead in the opinion polls the conservatives will literally be more or less

00:32:51.840 wiped out they will lose half of their seats in the election if the opinion polls happen today

00:32:57.760 there's no one who stepped up the mark it's it's silence um you watch the round of interviews with

00:33:04.240 different mps there's no one who's stepping up the plate to propose anything new uh that the latest

00:33:11.000 thought is well boris is going to wait until rishi sunak runs into the ground and then he wants to come

00:33:17.520 in and save the show and it could be that mps are waiting for that to happen we literally don't have

00:33:23.920 any big beasts left in british politics boris was the last one rishi sunak is a no one really he's

00:33:30.580 fairly good on the media but he's not even doing media and when he goes for photo ops he is flying

00:33:35.820 across the country and being criticized for that but you look around and there's no one who is stepping

00:33:41.540 up from the conservative party to take control and it means labor don't have to do anything labor will

00:33:46.840 get in by default in two years at the next general election if something big does not happen and it just

00:33:52.980 seems to be playing out that rishi sunak is a caretaker for the tory party and labor will come in

00:33:58.780 and i don't think labor will actually be much worse because the tories have been labor party in

00:34:03.040 disguise really yeah labor light peter how do people get to you i know you're on getter how

00:34:08.820 they get to all your social media how you get to the great show hearts of oak so at hearts of oak

00:34:13.900 on getter hearts of oak.org forward slash live stream you can watch direct uh we have our normal

00:34:19.540 news review today 3 p.m on monday we're looking at oxford becoming a 15 minute city and you'll get

00:34:25.540 find 70 points if you move outside that area thursday we've got matt strickland who's running

00:34:30.540 for the virginia senate district 27 uh so those are coming up 3 p.m eastern time saturday monday and

00:34:38.640 thursday peter honored to have you on here thanks for the update thank you steve

00:34:45.300 ben i i'm gonna go to the vatican first you worked in commons for a long time uh and you you've been

00:34:53.440 very close uh watching the 20 that saved us here with that debate is that the problem in the uk before

00:34:59.640 we talk about the vatican impel is that the problem we got with this tory parties that they are more

00:35:04.580 like a mitch mcconnell and you don't have any fire brands that prepare to step up and throw down hard

00:35:09.360 and say we got to change things here or we're just we're really labor light now what's the problem

00:35:15.040 over there i'd say steve that the principal problem with the british conservative party is that

00:35:21.480 it's no longer fit for purpose it no longer has within it the real passion for the margaret thatcher

00:35:28.020 reform agenda that they're countering the vested interests that she had um in the 1980s they do the

00:35:34.240 lip service the candidates when they want to get selected for a nice safe seat they say well they're

00:35:38.580 into politics because of margaret thatcher and they want to continue her revolution but the moment

00:35:43.340 they take their seats it is straight off um into the establishment and this is i think one of the

00:35:49.080 things that nigel farage says so convincingly that the toy party is really going to be dying and dead

00:35:54.880 um until it has the courage to rediscover her vigor

00:35:59.440 talk to me about the uh about vigor and about the vatican why are we why are we bringing you in today

00:36:07.600 on a saturday sir yeah well we're talking about a cardinal and who actually did show uh vigor though

00:36:15.140 we didn't realize it um you mentioned earlier one in your introduction about a thermonuclear bomb

00:36:20.760 which has been dropped on the vatican i might i might correct you on that it's more of a timed

00:36:25.480 depth charge a timed depth charge which was actually released on the 15th of march with a secret memo

00:36:32.380 and that was circulated amongst the cardinals and we found out in the last couple of days after

00:36:37.900 cardinal pell died he was one of the leading australia's obviously most important catholic cleric but also one of the

00:36:44.380 most um visibly conservative cardinals in the church he was the author steve of this secret memo

00:36:52.740 and this memo was it excoriating towards pope francis and unlike most criticisms like you'll find in the

00:37:01.800 in his um article in the spectator which was published the day after he died where he he doesn't attack

00:37:08.940 pope francis directly in the spectator article in this secret memo he does um and here is some of

00:37:16.020 the things that cardinal pell said he said that the papacy under pope francis was a disaster

00:37:22.480 he said it was a catastrophe um steve these are these are these are adjectives you'll hear on the

00:37:28.740 war room but you won't really hear them anywhere else against the pope which i think underlines the

00:37:35.160 narrative which we have been presenting over recent weeks it's not because people aren't saying these

00:37:41.700 things publicly that they're not saying them that's something we'll drill down on on a future occasion

00:37:46.200 here's something um else he said commentators of every school if for different reasons agree that this

00:37:54.600 pontificate is a disaster in many or most respects a catastrophe so and that was the introduction

00:38:02.480 to his memorandum if you give me a couple of moments i'd like to dig down now and and and pull out some

00:38:11.000 of his choice insights the first thing to note is that um now i know i'm gonna i know i'm gonna have

00:38:18.160 to give away for the break in a moment but i'll start the point his leading enemy when cardinal pell had

00:38:24.780 a curial position in the vatican was cardinal betchu this is the cardinal who's currently a defendant

00:38:30.500 in the vatican's largest criminal um case major enemy when pell was here wasn't the pope it was

00:38:38.880 cardinal betchu this is what this shows cardinal pell's cardinal pell's magnanimity this is what he

00:38:44.660 has to say about cardinal betchu and it's absolutely true what cardinal pell says betchu has not been

00:38:50.200 treated justly because he was removed from his position and stripped of his cardinalatial dignities

00:38:55.860 without any trial he did not receive due process everyone has a right to due process well obviously

00:39:02.740 that sentiment is going to be very close to the heart of cardinal pell who spent 13 months in solitary

00:39:08.280 confinement for a crime he did not commit but it shows you there the magnanimity of his greatness

00:39:14.420 the greatness of his soul that he comes out and strongly defends his nemesis in in these terms

00:39:21.240 and when pell says that he hasn't been treated fairly what he's talking about is that pope francis

00:39:28.400 pope francis has issued four secret decrees to the vatican court against which there's no appeal

00:39:36.200 for for poor old cardinal betchu that will help the prosecution

00:39:40.040 if i can go on i can if i can go on keep going keep going we got another minute

00:39:48.560 he highlighted the um the something that steve that you've been really leading on

00:39:54.920 um the the catholic church's absolute lack of support for chinese catholics he says there has

00:40:01.340 been no public support for the loyal loyal catholics in china who have been intermittently persecuted

00:40:06.960 for their loyalty to the papacy for more than 70 years again arguments you will hear on the war room

00:40:12.620 and pretty much nowhere else in the catholic or secular media but this is said by probably the um

00:40:19.560 the catholic church's most prominent conservative voice finally if i may bet bet bet bet bet hang on

00:40:28.440 hang on hang on we're going to take a short break i want to save the last for the next segment

00:40:33.180 ben harnwell's live in the uh live at the vatican uh also uh moderna has responded

00:40:40.580 to the fda for their uh shock and disappointment about moderna holding back the information also

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00:42:18.480 piercing shell that is mike lindell uh ben hornwell you've got one more aspect to release i gotta i gotta

00:42:27.760 tell you we're very proud the war room that we constantly bring these things up cardinal pell is

00:42:32.260 a man of enormous stature and his humility and and how humble he was on these false accusations to

00:42:39.640 shut him up about the finances of the vatican that's what it was to do and to penalize him he

00:42:45.000 spent a year in solitary confinement a year at a man that age and he used it as a journey for himself

00:42:51.520 his diary of those times is absolutely unbelievable and they should i'll make sure we promote it here

00:42:56.920 on on the show next week it shows you the a great soul and when when when uh persecuted on something

00:43:04.020 that he knew was wrong and unfair what he did in trying to make himself a better person and a better

00:43:10.820 soul is just incredible and a great this is the quality of person he is versus these jackals that

00:43:17.440 you have to deal with uh and are always attacking him and did this to him on purpose let me repeat that

00:43:23.020 they did this to him on purpose they knew exactly what they were doing to shut him up ben hornwell

00:43:28.540 absolutely right steve in fact when i was talking earlier about cardinal pell's magnanimity towards

00:43:36.120 cardinal betchu's manifest lack of due process perhaps take a moment to reflect on the fact that

00:43:44.600 according to cardinal pell it was cardinal betchu who'd authorized payments to his cardinal pell's

00:43:51.660 accusers back in australia um to shut him up get him out the way um and keep him locked up

00:43:57.760 in prison for a crime let's repeat this he did not commit um so when he comes out and says betchu

00:44:04.440 really has been treated very unjustly is that's the context behind um behind that that demonstration

00:44:12.020 of absolute magnanimity and perhaps one can also say christian forgiveness on behalf of um of cardinal

00:44:18.700 pell so the cardinal pell i hope that anecdote illustrates is it some kind of ideological militant

00:44:25.360 here with axes to grind far from it something else um that i just want to mention now this is talking

00:44:33.040 here for folks who've just joined us about a secret memo that cardinal pell had published in an italian

00:44:41.000 newspaper on the 15th of march last year but he did it anonymously it was under the name of demos

00:44:46.000 just just greek for people um and we only found out in in the last um 48 hours after cardinal pell died

00:44:54.060 that he was in fact the author of this this memo so so the things that pell said um back in march

00:45:01.880 take on a more uh pregnant importance now simply because of the stature of the guy who wrote it and let's

00:45:09.300 not forget before going back to australia to face uh the the show trial that the stalin stalin stalin

00:45:16.580 show trial that locked him up for 13 months let's not forget that pell was actually uh the vatican's

00:45:23.180 finance minister we'll use that the term finance minister to describe what he did so he knew when

00:45:27.900 he's talking about the corruption in the vatican he knew exactly what he's talking about and now we

00:45:32.400 have the opportunity to associate what he said with cardinal pell's name yeah um let me just quickly

00:45:39.280 remember if you've seen the yeah yeah go ahead i just want if you've seen godfather three you know

00:45:45.080 some of the issues with the the bank and he was brought in to clean it up he was not and

00:45:50.840 coroner pell was brought in as a man of stature to clean the entire mess up of the vatican of finances

00:45:56.340 go ahead ben yeah and it's you know and to repeat the point that when he was sent off to him who he

00:46:02.300 sent down in australia he got zero support from the vatican or for the from the pope who just washed

00:46:07.840 their hands of him because of course it was orchestrated they wanted him out of the way

00:46:11.620 two very quick points and perhaps we'll return to this next week on the point of schism which we talk

00:46:17.400 about um occasionally also on this on this show about the the anger dissatisfaction with the pope

00:46:24.940 can it lead to a formal schism in the church this is what cardinal pell has to say schism is not likely

00:46:31.200 to occur from the left who often sits lightly to doctrinal issues schism is more likely to come

00:46:37.960 from the right and is always possible when liturgical tensions are inflamed and not dampened

00:46:43.640 that's a direct criticism of pope francis and in fact foreshadows what uh what pope francis did

00:46:52.160 when he suppressed um an act of real gratuitous violence the old latin mass um i'll close with this

00:46:59.420 point steve because i want to say a quick word on it and back to the corruption hell says the vatican

00:47:05.560 has no substantial debt but continuing annual deficits will eventually lead to bankruptcy obviously

00:47:12.080 steps will be taken to remedy this he's talking about the future pontificate the pope after pope francis

00:47:18.100 steps will be taken to remedy this to separate the vatican from criminal accomplices and balance revenue

00:47:24.660 and expenditure criminal accomplices and this is from the guy who was the vatican's finance minister

00:47:31.500 folks at home many of whom are catholic many of whom generate generous generously on the collection plate

00:47:39.420 when it comes around your former vatican your former vatican finance minister has said here explicitly

00:47:45.840 about criminal accomplices within the vatican this is where your money is going right it is going

00:47:51.980 to finance criminal activities in the vatican and if you think i close to this point steve if you think

00:47:59.820 you have no power you're just a schmuck on on a pure expected to pay and you have no power one thing you

00:48:05.300 can do if you want to hit this vatican where it hurts is stop the donations to what is a fundamentally

00:48:12.140 corrupt organization uh ben real quickly social media how do people get to you over the weekend

00:48:18.200 thanks so much steve i'm exclusively on leon getter my profile is at harnwell which is my surname at

00:48:26.040 harnwell which i'm updating all the time okay i'll be uh up on getter over the weekend we'll be back

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Episode 2444： Fighting Back Against The Ruling Class

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