On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Mike Davis, who joins us to talk about the latest in the ongoing saga of Russian collusion with the Trump administration. Mike is a former FBI agent who served as the head of the New York office that was the center of the most sensitive counterintelligence investigation into Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Now, he's been charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering, and conspiracy to obstruct justice.
00:00:28.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:00:47.000And specifically, a $10 million payment Deripaska allegedly gave Manafort.
00:00:57.000Pocket change, I understand, if you're an oligarch.
00:01:00.000As Russian oligarchs go, Deripaska is on the Mount Rushmore of oligarchs.
00:01:05.000In 2018, Deripaska was sanctioned by the U.S. government for, among other things, money laundering, threatening the lives of business rivals and taking part in extortion and racketeering, as well as ordering the murder of a businessman and for having links to Russian organized crime.
00:02:04.000The special agent in charge of the FBI's counterintelligence division in New York, who had supervised and participated in investigations of Russian oligarchs, including Mr. Deripaska.
00:02:15.000McGonigal has been, quote, indicted on charges that he conspired to violate U.S. sanctions on Russia by taking secret payments from Deripaska in return for investigating a rival oligarch.
00:02:27.000In plain English, one of the highest ranking FBI officials who sat at the crossroads of some of the most sensitive counterintelligence investigations into Russia and Russian related investigations now stands accused of getting paid by a Russian oligarch he was supposed to be investigating.
00:02:48.000We should note McGonigal is facing additional charges out of D.C. from the Washington Post, quote, the twin indictments are a black eye for the FBI, alleging that one of their most senior and trusted intelligence officials was taking secret cash payments and undermining the bureau's overall intelligence gathering mission.
00:03:08.000Mission. Let's see if this ends up on Jim Jordan's agenda for his new committee in his new Congress.
00:03:13.700This is Kevin McCarthy once again catering to the most right wing ailments of his conference and doing the will of the former president as well.
00:03:23.080He doesn't like the fact that I led the impeachment of Donald Trump for withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid from Ukraine while that nation was at war in order to essentially extort them into helping his political campaign.
00:03:35.240That's too bad. We're going to continue to hold McCarthy accountable, Trump accountable, and for him to to mess with the Intelligence Committee this way to try to dictate the Democratic representation on the committee and not just essentially tear down the functioning of that committee,
00:03:54.800but build up a new committee on the select committee, but build up a new committee on the select committee on the weaponization of the federal government.
00:04:00.920These should be seen as hand in hand, tearing down legitimate committees that are doing important national security work, building up these bogus committees that he's going to seat, you know, the right wing crazies.
00:04:15.080And it's just a further destruction of our norms and and I think deterioration of our democracy.
00:04:24.540Monday, 23 January, year of our Lord, 2023.
00:04:27.660Of course, welcome to the most right wing elements of of the MAGA movement.
00:04:32.040Want to bring in Boris Epstein. We got Mike Davis, Miranda Devine all going to join us.
00:04:36.860Boris, I know you've have stepped out of a mean to do this,
00:04:40.260but I had to ask you today and thank you for doing that about the situation with the FBI,
00:04:46.040the senior FBI agent in the New York office, which was the center of the of the Russian collusion situation.
00:04:54.600What what your what are your first thoughts about this, sir?
00:04:58.000My first thoughts are karma is a karma is a tough entity to deal with.
00:05:04.920Let's put it that way. You know, there's a word that I want to use, but don't want to cost you any more fines.
00:05:09.620It's an honor to be with you. Honor to be with the war room posse.
00:05:12.840Here's the bottom line. This court court official, McGuino, was the effectively the cornerstone
00:05:22.100and the birthstone of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
00:05:27.120He's the one that started the process that culminated in tens and tens of millions,
00:05:32.880if not hundreds of millions of dollars of American money spent, of taxpayer money spent,
00:05:37.540of money spent on lawyers, of a complete and total witch hunt that that let's just be honest,
00:05:44.240was fully geared toward preventing President Trump from running and being successful as the president of our country.
00:05:51.900So what you have here now is the is the touchstone of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax being arrested for colluding with dot, dot, dot Russia.
00:06:04.260It does not get more, frankly, more unbelievable in some ways, but more expected in other ways than this.
00:06:14.060And it's the same thing as we've seen with the documents.
00:06:16.980Joe Biden said, oh, how could you be so responsible?
00:06:19.960The Democrats going out on TV and all clutching their pearls.
00:11:12.220My thoughts are that shifty shift, Eric Swalwell, and the Democrat junta, who are completely, completely disdainful of America,
00:11:30.860who have no care for what's best for our country, you know, swole with a fang-fang ship with lying over and over and over again about President Trump and defaming the president.
00:11:43.240These people cannot be anywhere near, forget the House Committee on Intelligence, they can't be anywhere near Congress.
00:11:52.500And if shifty shift wants to go and run for the Senate, well, that's his prerogative, and that's his business.
00:11:57.140And I hope the people of California give him the same treatment that Kevin McCarthy and Republicans are giving him regarding the House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence.
00:12:04.500Boris, how do people get to you? What are your coordinates?
00:12:10.320Steve, it's a big day. Follow these stories.
00:12:13.400And to folks, always signal, not noise.
00:12:15.100What you've got to remember, what you've got to remember is that none of these events are separate.
00:12:20.560The document disaster for Biden, the arrest today of Maguino.
00:12:24.460You know, what is happening is you're seeing the combination of the deep state, the Democrat leadership,
00:12:30.660and let's be honest, the leadership of law enforcement that was in power in the 2016 era absolutely falling apart
00:12:37.780and proving that we were right all along, and most importantly, President Trump was right all along,
00:12:42.820that the deep state was out to get it.
00:12:44.320My information, BorisCP.com is the website set up right now on BorisCP.com.
00:12:48.260Hot on Getter at BorisCP, on Twitter at BorisCP, and hot on Truth Social at Boris.
00:12:52.080It's hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
00:12:55.040Stay strong. God bless all offense, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:12:59.580Thanks, Boris. I want to go to Mike Davis.
00:13:01.440Mike, you were the first guy on this we had on the show on 8 August.
00:13:05.620You've seen what's happened over the weekend.
00:16:39.900So explain that to me in Washington logic, what happened here.
00:16:44.360It seems to me, Steve, that if you look at the reporting at the New York Times and the Washington Post, if the leaks from the Biden White House and maybe the Biden Justice Department talking about who was aware of this collusion, this political White House and the Biden Justice Department.
00:17:07.840Ron Klain seems to be out of the loop during this process, and maybe that's what's led to his resignation announcement on Saturday morning.
00:17:20.760Maybe I want to try to reboot that one more time.
00:17:23.040Can we get Miranda Devine while we reboot Mike Davis?
00:17:26.660Miranda, you wrote, I think, one of the most informative columns, and you've had so many great ones, but of anybody, and summarizing this today.
00:17:34.140Before I have you walk us through it, you've been all over FBI, CIA, DOJ.
00:17:41.960Give us your perspective on this blockbuster news coming out of New York today about the head of the counterintelligence operation in New York and one of the leaders of the Trump investigation essentially being turned over as, I guess, a Russian agent, ma'am.
00:18:31.040There's something much deeper going on here, and this is what Miranda Devines.
00:18:34.040Let's play Cash Patel from this morning.
00:18:36.100How did you know, because the very first day this broke, you came on here and go, hey, there are going to be a lot more documents in a lot more locations.
00:18:44.800How did you know that and say it was such certainty?
00:18:47.420Because, actually, what I'm going to tell you for the first time, which I haven't said on the air or in any media, this investigation did not start because librarians at NARA came out and said there are overdue library books.
00:19:17.440Mark my word, this classified investigation will – it will be put out by the federalization of the – excuse me, the weaponization of the federal government subcommittee on Jim Jordan when they get the following document.
00:19:30.140The electronic communication, the EC, just like Devin and I got in Russiagate, that is a singular document of the FBI that says where and when the investigation started.
00:19:39.560It will trace right back to Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:19:42.500They will find information on it about China and Russia and Ukraine, which led them to go and search for documentation relevant to that crime, which led them to Joe Biden's door.
00:19:55.060And that's why I have always said when NARA said, oh, we're missing one set of documents, I said that is the biggest political cover-up of a crime I've ever seen and it's going to be a waterfall of documents.
00:20:09.300And that leads me to the intent portion, Steve.
00:20:12.500Okay, what we're going to try to do on the show as we try to do on other topics, whether it's pandemic or debt ceiling, geopolitics, the CCP, Ukraine, vaccines, you name it, is to make sure you have nomenclature, understand process, because this is going to get very confusing very quickly.
00:20:32.440And one of the things we pride ourselves in doing is making sure you present the information and evidence that is – so it's – you can get your own frame of reference, right?
00:20:48.260Mike, I want to go to what Cash was talking about this morning is that – because there's something here that doesn't make sense.
00:20:56.980You don't have lawyers like Bob Bauer.
00:20:58.800You don't have these senior people, the most senior – you know, the Democratic Illuminati that really run these massive Democratic law firms, as you know, that run the city, popping up in closets, rummaging around and finding compartmented top secret material or sets of materials.
00:21:16.560They now reported sets of material involving Ukraine and Iran, things like this.
00:21:22.460So is Cash, right, do you think – particularly when you go back and you forget the 68 days of collusion, right, or cover-up, but you go back to November 2nd, drive the stake in that, and look back.
00:21:36.980Well, there's no question that Biden – no sane person would send $1,500 an hour or more personal attorneys to go help close down your abandoned work office at the Penn Biden Center at 101 Constitution Avenue Northwest.
00:21:54.600That was the Chinese-funded University of Pennsylvania holding grounds where Biden had his fake professorship after he left the vice presidency.
00:22:05.820They just happened to show up on November 2nd with these high-priced attorneys, found these classified documents, and then they claimed they called the National Archives.
00:22:16.500They had to have been looking for documents in another matter.
00:22:20.880Maybe they were looking for documents in the Delaware matter where you're dealing with Hunter Biden's tax evasion and influence peddling,
00:22:28.480or there's some other matter that they're looking at in order to come up with these documents at the Penn Biden Center.
00:22:34.300And remember, the Biden lawyers didn't turn this over to the Justice Department like they claimed.
00:22:39.540They turned these documents over to the political head of the National Archives.
00:22:44.680And the only reason it got turned over to the Biden Justice Department is because the inspector general of the National Archives got wind of it and turned it over to the Justice Department.
00:22:53.280And then Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department colluded for two months, and they worked together to try to cover this up for two months, and it finally came out.
00:23:02.740So the timing is also interesting on Ron Klain.
00:23:06.500If you look at the reporting at the New York Times and the Washington Post, the leaked backgrounds on what the Biden administration was doing on this, you notice that Ron Klain's name was missing.
00:23:19.260Ron Klain is one of Biden's longest confidants, his chief of staff, one of his longest-serving aides, and he was out of the loop on this.
00:23:28.360Which maybe that explains why Ron Klain quit on Saturday like he did because he was cut out of the loop on this.
00:23:45.140Miranda had the column that says, and we've had cash on the day, that the rail hit of this is the laptop from Hill, which you wrote the definitive book on.
00:23:52.580But I got it where we got you, your first cut at this senior head of counterintelligence for Russia for the FBI in New York, now essentially accused of taking money from the Russians of being a Russian double agent.
00:24:08.860Well, so he was the head of counterintelligence in the New York field office, and it was the New York field office of the FBI that arrested Patrick Ho, who was one of Hunter Biden's business partners.
00:24:21.620So there's that, you know, everything seems to have a Hunter Biden link.
00:24:25.580And now we find that this very guy, Charlie McGonigal, has just been convicted of basically being a Russian spy.
00:24:35.940So, you know, it seems there is so much corruption at the top of the FBI, and we've had a handful of whistleblowers.
00:24:45.540I mean, probably a couple of dozen, which is fantastic, and they've, you know, put their careers on the line.
00:24:51.620People like Steve Friend, who's basically being victimised by the FBI, has been put on unpaid leave.
00:25:00.240They've come out and blown the whistle.
00:25:03.080But Christopher Wray, he swans around to Davos last week, boasting about the fact that the FBI has basically been partnering with social media companies to suppress and censor information that they don't like, that he calls misinformation or disinformation.
00:25:37.080Anything that the Biden administration doesn't want made public or the Biden campaign, the FBI has partnered with the social media companies to suppress it.
00:25:48.320And you've got the head of the FBI boasting about that on an international stage.
00:26:31.840I mean, it certainly – he's been given a very deep strategic briefing with information that wasn't on the public record.
00:26:39.600So, you know, how classified that was, who knows.
00:26:42.740This is a week before his father travels to Ukraine.
00:26:45.240This is an uncharacteristically, you know, intelligent, lengthy, well-informed email to his business partner, Devin Archer, who he – this was around the time that he and Devin Archer got onto the board of that corrupt Ukrainian energy company, Burisma,
00:27:03.100that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month just to sit on the board when he had no, you know, credentials to do that.
00:27:11.460And they cut his pay in half when his father ceased to be vice president.
00:27:17.200So it's pretty obvious what they were paying him for.
00:27:19.160And this is at the time when he's wanting to prove his bona fides, to show that he's worth $83,000 a month.
00:27:30.080And it looks like it certainly has the flavor of an official briefing, maybe even a classified one.
00:27:39.000Miranda, how do people get to you on social media and how they get to your book?
00:27:42.120I'm at Miranda Devine on all social media, and my books are at all good bookstores except Barnes & Noble in Fifth Avenue, which refuses to stock it.
00:30:12.080The explosion of these secret documents that have been in the possession of current President Joe Biden for the past six years, even when he was a senator and former vice president, I think is definitely going to be an issue.
00:30:24.420And obviously the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI.
00:30:27.640I mean, these things, in my opinion, are actually completely un-American and are not what I fought for.
00:30:32.880And I'm absolutely honored to serve on the Judiciary Committee so we can kind of get to the bottom of some of these questions, but particularly as it pertains to Joe Biden.
00:30:43.320We all watched the FBI raid in front of Mar-a-Lago a few months back.
00:30:47.980And now the American public is seeing the level of hypocrisy versus Democrats versus how we treat Republicans.
00:30:55.040My big issue is, is these documents that were found in Joe Biden's garage next to his Corvette and then the access that Hunter Biden had over the course of the past few years.
00:31:06.560It's what's very, very interesting to me because it's not just not just Hunter Biden, but how many people actually had access to these secret documents?
00:31:14.880And so if we're sending the FBI to President Trump's house, then what are we doing to current President Joe Biden right now?
00:31:21.380And that's literally what I want to get to the bottom of as soon as possible.
00:31:26.600I think it's great having you in that you're an Academy grad.
00:31:30.820The handling and chain of custody of this type of – this is just not confidential secret, top secret.
00:31:37.420This is compartmented where you're in a vertical that only certain people should know.
00:31:40.720He signs out for it, the chain of custody, and now we know it's going to multiple locations.
00:31:46.360Some of this – it could be 14 years old or it could be 20 years old.
00:31:52.660In the Army, sir, when you were serving or even now with your friends that are – your classmates that are still in as, I guess, field grade officers,
00:32:02.500how serious is the handling and mishandling of compartmented top secret information, Congressman Hunt?
00:32:10.720That's grounds for dismissal from the military.
00:32:15.040I mean, this is completely unheard of at our level, and I'm someone that even had my TSSCI.
00:32:19.400And I'm telling you that we would never, under no circumstances, handle secret documents like this.
00:32:25.120Senator Ted Cruz put out a tweet last week that was really interesting.
00:32:29.020He talked about how he has never taken a secret document out of the SCIF, ever.
00:32:33.760Every time he has read it, it has actually been in a controlled environment in the SCIF to make sure that our secure documents never left secure hands.
00:32:43.180And so the idea that we are finding – your point is very well taken – the idea that we are finding documents, you know, 6, 7, 10, who knows, years old, is a serious problem.
00:32:53.840And again, I go back to the hypocrisy of this and how we treated President Trump.
00:33:00.000And if we're going to be fair about this and if we're going to be honest with the American people and if justice is truly blind,
00:33:06.620then I think this is going to deserve a level of investigation that can potentially reach the level of impeachment.
00:33:13.340The Justice Department told your committee and told Jim Jordan and Comer what they thought of the request for people coming forward in documents.
00:33:27.360Didn't they say, hey, look, glad you guys are interested, but these are ongoing investigations and we'll get back to you when we get back to you.
00:33:34.100Is that acceptable to you, Congressman Hunt?
00:33:37.380And the fact that his lawyers have an opportunity to actually go through the documents before the DOJ, before the FBI takes a look at them is, again, completely unfair to former President Trump.
00:33:48.740And what we want, at the end of the day, is fairness.
00:34:29.880I want to know who has had access to these documents.
00:34:31.920And I want to know if in any way, shape, or form Hunter Biden used these to sell out American secrets to the highest bidder.
00:34:39.960These are all questions that we have to ask.
00:34:42.000Miranda Devine has an incredible column in today's New York Post that lays some of these issues out, particularly stuff going back to 2013 on the laptop from hell.
00:34:53.300You said it may rise to the level of impeachment.
00:34:59.080If DOJ just hunkers down and says, hey, it's an ongoing investigation, and when the special counsel is back a year, a year and a half from now, or two years from now, we may get back to you guys.
00:35:11.160What would be your advice to the committee head, Jim Jordan, about Congressman Jordan?
00:35:33.340He is somebody that has displayed a level of devotion to our country.
00:35:37.360And the idea that he wants to get to the bottom of this, he has relayed that to me.
00:35:43.680He has relayed that to the entire committee.
00:35:45.700I look forward to working with him to get into the bottom of it.
00:35:49.980You represent Texas 38, so obviously the southern border is a huge issue for you folks, but also this is out-of-control spending and just the scale of government.
00:35:58.660I know it doesn't wash with folks, the hardworking folks in Texas.
00:36:01.880This debt ceiling, you've got the Democrats playing games.
00:36:03.920The biggest game is, hey, we don't care what Kevin McCarthy and these radicals, these extremists in the House want.
00:37:01.360I'm the upper end of the millennial scale.
00:37:03.600We have a lot of young combat veterans that are currently serving in Congress that understand that this is an issue that has to be addressed.
00:37:09.900We can no longer kick it down the road.
00:37:12.120Congressional District 38, where I represent against the district President Trump, would have won by about 23 points.
00:38:33.260She's still kind of struggling with a few things.
00:38:35.420But we are definitely doing much better after we've turned the corner to recovery.
00:38:40.000And I will tell you this, your prayers matter.
00:38:43.380I am so blessed to have people like you thinking about us and praying for us because I really do think that it made all the difference in their very speed of recovery over the course of the past few weeks.
00:39:20.840If you're in the military, Mike, you know that you get rolled out and sent to Leavenworth if you've had this really callous way that the Biden – I mean the cynicism of how this has been handled is shocking.
00:39:35.840When you read the Washington Post and New York Times stories of the 68 days and the fact that they thought they had a deal with justice to keep it quiet, that's the most stunning thing that – the most stunning phrase that I heard.
00:39:50.260You know, Jeff Clark brought it up this morning and one of the – I think it's the Washington Post story said that they – DOJ and Bauer and these guys, they thought – Bauer's team, the president's lawyers' team thought they had a mutually agreed upon deal to keep this out of the public eye
00:40:04.700and just to take care of this behind the scenes.
00:40:09.140This is a political cover-up between Attorney General Merrick Garland, President Biden, President Biden's White House attorneys, and President Biden's personal attorneys.
00:40:18.080And the House Judiciary Committee has jurisdiction over the Justice Department, and Chairman Jim Jordan should issue subpoenas today to subpoena Attorney General Merrick Garland, get him over to the House and get him in a chair,
00:40:35.380And the Attorney General can't say this is an ongoing investigation, I can't answer these questions, because guess what, you don't get to cover-up your cover-up of your boss, right?
00:40:46.320The Attorney General should have appointed a special counsel for this matter on November 2nd, the second that Attorney General Merrick Garland learns that Biden had stolen classified records in his profession.
00:41:00.320He should have appointed a special counsel.
00:41:02.280Instead, he's covered this up for two months.
00:41:04.240They appointed a special counsel for Trump 16 days later.
00:41:09.020They have this highly inappropriate collusion between the Justice Department, Team Biden, and the Biden White House to cover this up.
00:42:27.260You put his butt in a chair and let Garland explain that to the American people and let him take question after question after question and let the American people look at his demeanor and look at how he's answering those questions to see if he's credible, to see if he's still covering up for Biden or if he's being truthful.
00:42:48.080We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:42:49.220We're going to return with Mike Davis, who was with Grassley over at the Senate Judiciary Committee and was a clerk for Associate Justice Gorsuch as a federal judge.
00:43:00.740Mike Davis from Article 3 will join us on the other side.
00:43:02.980In Joe Biden's America, criminals are exalted and the police are condemned.
00:43:25.160It's sad to say, but you need to be prepared and properly trained to defend yourself and to defend your family.
00:45:30.440Why two stories and why not a fast and comprehensive search in November?
00:45:34.660When you have people like Andrew Weissman essentially calling this thing out as absurd and the lies and the spins and the misrepresentations, should Jim Jordan, as head of judiciary, should he be leaning into this a tad more, sir?
00:45:51.260He is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee that has jurisdiction and oversight over the Justice Department.
00:45:58.060You have very clear evidence that Attorney General Merrick Garland has improperly colluded with President Biden, the Biden White House lawyers, and President Biden's personal attorneys to cover up a massive scandal, a national security crime,
00:46:15.520where there is smoking gun evidence that Biden violated the espionage act by having stolen classified records, five sets, at least five sets of stolen classified records in at least three, maybe four different locations, personal locations in his personal files, unguarded.
00:46:35.480And there's clear evidence that Attorney General Merrick Garland had some sort of a deal with the Biden White House to keep this quiet.
00:46:41.960This screams for congressional oversight.
00:46:44.700This screams for a subpoena from Jim Jordan and the House Judiciary Committee to the Attorney General.
00:46:50.960This screams for them dragging the Attorney General into the House Judiciary Committee, putting him into a chair and making him explain why he did what he did with Trump versus why he did what he did with Biden.
00:47:03.200And why is there a clear double standard here?
00:49:39.600In the next hour, we're going to connect some dots.
00:49:45.460I've asked Colonel John Mills, who was in the Office of Secretary of Defense, he's an intelligence officer, to join us about this situation with the FBI, which is explosive.
00:49:54.640The senior FBI field agent in charge of the counterintelligence department apparatus in the New York office, where, quite frankly, it's even more tense there than in New York City when we talk about counterintelligence, has been, it looks like, arrested.
00:50:11.660And, essentially, when they cut through all the way they spent it, he's taking money from the Russians and is a Russian spy, a Russian agent.
00:50:26.100So, if you were pitching this in a movie in Hollywood, they'd throw you out of the office.
00:50:30.240Also, what's happening in Ukraine, I'm telling you right now, and we have not been wrong on this, they're now ramping up for a large-scale land war there, much bigger than you're talking about now.
00:50:40.520We've asked Rebecca Koffer to come in and walk us through all that.
00:50:44.660Also, the movie Dead Names has been pulled down by Vimeo, so we've got Brandon Sherwood who's going to adjourn us, but the next hour is going to be absolutely intense.
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