Jake, Jake, and Mike discuss the mystery of a mysterious object that was spotted flying over the continental United States. They discuss whether it was a Chinese spy balloon or something else. They also discuss the implications for the Chinese government.
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00:00:45.440So I can confirm that the Department of Defense was tracking a high-altitude object over Alaska airspace in the last 24 hours.
00:00:57.920The object was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet and posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight.
00:01:09.780Out of an abundance of caution and at the recommendation of the Pentagon, President Biden ordered the military to down the object.
00:01:16.760And they did. And it came inside our territorial waters.
00:01:22.040Those waters right now are frozen, but inside territorial airspace and over territorial waters.
00:01:28.600Fighter aircraft assigned to U.S. Northern Command took down the object within the last hour.
00:01:34.540My question is, if it had remained secret and had not become a spectacle and arguably an embarrassment to the White House, would you have shot it down or allowed it to continue on its way?
00:01:51.480So, Mike, I'll kind of just push back a little bit at the assertion there.
00:01:55.580So, first of all, again, what made this balloon different was the length and duration that it was over the continental United States.
00:02:03.860Look, we track activities all over the globe on a daily basis, some of which will remain classified because, again, we don't want to reveal sources and methods.
00:02:13.940In this particular case, I can tell you that there were efforts underway to to make that public.
00:02:22.940I, you know, Montana journalists reporting notwithstanding all that to say, look,
00:02:28.740there are going to be times when there's activities happening that we're monitoring that we're we're not going to go public,
00:02:33.720especially if it doesn't present a particular or pose a significant threat to the American public.
00:02:39.840But again, as as we monitored that balloon, there was an effort underway to ensure that that folks understood what this was,
00:03:00.720Well, I'm I'm you know, I'm trying to that's what it seems like, Jake, to be candid.
00:03:05.180I'm trying to understand why this much smaller by their own admission, much less capable balloon with a much smaller payload was deemed such a threat that the other one wasn't.
00:03:19.060And to your point on, you know, what our red line should be,
00:03:22.560I guarantee you if we put an object over Beijing or over some of their sensitive sites at 40 to 60,000 feet for days collecting sensitive intelligence,
00:03:32.620they would take action. We need to take reciprocal action and again, make that clear up front.
00:03:37.900We know what the facts are as they have been laid out to us from the White House and from the Pentagon.
00:03:42.380You've just suggested that you think based on what you've heard, it is less likely that it is a Chinese spy balloon.
00:03:46.800Explain that. Is that because it's much smaller? Is that because it's flying lower?
00:03:50.280Is that because of the direction that it was seen traveling in?
00:03:54.640Well, first of all, if it was a follow on Chinese intelligence collection operation,
00:04:01.480then it would be either a level of political effrontery by President Xi that is beyond belief,
00:04:09.380or it would mean the PLA was out of control.
00:12:38.180First off, you know, the Bidens came out just like Benzman said and said, hey, we've had a great month since we changed the law.
00:12:44.900Now they've got the pardons down in Mexico.
00:12:48.300But a big announcement today from DHS, correct me if I'm wrong, my staff chair, did Mallorca says DHS retain an outside counsel because of the impeachment move on him, sir?
00:13:01.580And their claim is that they have nobody on staff that's prepared to provide advice on how to deal with the ins and outs of an impeachment inquiry.
00:13:13.440And that's really where we're headed in the House is an impeachment inquiry.
00:13:18.300And it's tacitly started with the judiciary and oversight committees going forward with these kind of hearings dealing with border security and Mayorkas' failure to not just secure the border, but deliberately emasculating our national boundary.
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00:17:26.100The Department of Justice of the United States is the biggest law firm in the world.
00:17:30.660But I can see how they're a little under man right now because virtually the whole organization is trying to put Trump people in jail, including the boss.
00:17:38.820This is a big deal in my judgment because the DHS has been caught with its hand in the corruption jar.
00:17:50.280It has willfully and in a conspiratorial manner flaunted the constitution and laws of this land.
00:17:59.300And the emails, the memos, the phone records, those are the kinds of things that are going to demonstrate that the official policy of the Joe Biden administration was to open the border, flaunt all our laws.
00:18:16.320And I always get back to what you and I always talk about.
00:18:19.880There's no question right now, Steve, that the official immigration policy of the Joe Biden administration is also their economic policy to control the wages of black, blue collar and brown Americans or working class.
00:18:35.960I mean, to me, this is the biggest disgusting thing.
00:18:39.480If you go to Joe Biden's State of the Union where he's trying to talk about doing things for America and build it here and this, that and the other thing.
00:18:46.200I mean, look, if you if you import the labor force from out there and you're building it in America, you still got something going on that's wrong.
00:20:36.060I mean, it's the million people that the Census Bureau counted in the workforce now is like an old number.
00:20:45.420There's going to be another million males, uneducated, illegal immigrants coming in here, taking the jobs of black, brown and blue collar Americans.
00:20:56.440And those people at DHS, yeah, they're, you know, they got issues.
00:21:03.560And the DOJ lawyers aren't going to bail them out.
00:21:06.560They're going for the white shoe guys.
00:21:09.860Bill Barr will probably step up and help them.
00:21:12.320Bill Barr will probably do this stuff pro bono.
00:21:42.540You called it the other day by looking at the Census Bureau.
00:21:45.020There's already a million in the workforce.
00:21:46.960And this is how they've been saying they're going to bring down inflation because African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, low-skilled workers are making too much money, making too much money.
00:21:56.620Yeah, and Jay Powell, when he was giving his speech, he said the same damn thing.
00:22:00.880He said immigration was going to solve our wage inflation problem.
00:22:05.400He forgot to put the word illegal in front of it because immigration, legal immigration, it's like a puddle compared to the ocean of illegal immigration.
00:22:16.740So these people, they are so checked out of Main Street, blue-collar, MAGA America.
00:22:25.520And the fact that that's the Democratic Party and Scranton Joe basically pushing these policies, it's disgusting.
00:23:09.680Once thriving cities and towns that many of you represent became shadows of what they used to be.
00:23:14.960Along the way, something else we lost, pride, our sense of self-worth.
00:23:20.840I ran for president to fundamentally change things, to make sure our economy works for everyone, so we can all feel that pride in what we do.
00:23:29.880To build an economy from the bottom up and the middle class does well, the poor have a ladder up, and the wealthy still do very well.
00:23:57.500I mean, the first thing Biden did was erase half the executive orders I did on things like buy American, hire American.
00:24:05.640You can't take this guy seriously, except for the fact you have to, because this stuff's resonating with the American people.
00:24:15.100You know, when I saw that SOB, and I'm going to talk about this in the documentary podcast I'm doing next week, when I saw that SOB with that blood-red background going after MAGA as terrorists and extremists, it was like a laugh-out-loud moment.
00:25:29.840Look, let's go in our time machine, Steve.
00:25:32.440Back to the White House, early 2017, the beginning, the dawn of the Trump administration.
00:25:37.760We're debating in the Oval Office what the tax bill should look like.
00:25:44.080And Trump himself is talking about a tax on the oligarchs.
00:25:49.640And you and I were the only two people in the room at the time who thought that was a good idea, both politically and from an equity standpoint.
00:25:58.220Politically, this was a beautiful way to cut the legs out from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren from accusing us of doing tax cuts for the wealthy.
00:26:09.980You do the tax cuts for the middle class like we planned, and then you put on top of that a tax increase for the oligarchs.
00:26:20.100And from an equity standpoint, hey, nothing wrong with that.
00:26:24.040But, of course, what happened was Steve Mnuchin, the boil on the butt of humanity in the Trump administration, together with Lion Gary Cohn from Goldman Sachs, shot it down, talked the boss out of it.
00:26:37.400And now what Biden's going to try to do in 2024 is outflank, right, outflank us.
00:26:47.420And here's what I'm concerned about, Steve.
00:26:50.160Mitch McConnell, basically, is going to get outflanked just writ large.
00:26:54.940He's going to oppose that billionaire's tax, right?
00:30:05.080One thing I want to make sure that everybody understands is that we've changed the Overton window on this issue of the balanced budget, the deficit.
00:30:13.620Axios has a huge story up this morning about how Biden is going to try to position.
00:30:19.720One of the things they're going to use is the billionaire's tax to try to jam us, right?
00:30:26.900But they are going to have cuts, and these cuts are all going to be phony.
00:30:30.040But they're going to try to present that, hey, they're having deficit reduction.
00:30:34.140Now, people have called them out, and it's not working when you talk about this ridiculousness of they're the biggest deficit cutters ever because they're coming off the pandemic.
00:30:44.340And actually, the Axios story shows that nobody's believing that part of it.
00:30:48.060But when you have Russ vote, you have all the people we bring in here, Richard Stern, Heritage, Russ vote over at the Center for Renewing America.
00:30:56.060All these people are talking balanced budgets.
00:30:59.700That is now something how we've changed the Overton window, and that is going to be part of the debt ceiling debate.
00:31:06.100I want everybody to remember that what Russ is talking about, the strategy, is much harder core that's being kicked around now.
00:31:13.860The budget process itself, which kind of is not meaningful.
00:31:17.200What's meaningful is the appropriations process, how the money and where it actually gets spent.
00:31:21.840And in this appropriations process, what Russ is arguing for is we pass all those in regular order.
00:31:27.740Once we do that and we actually lock in with the deficit because that's where you can have significant cuts this year, including on the defense budget, the welfare programs, parts of Medicaid, all of it, that then you negotiate the debt ceiling.
00:31:51.040Boris, first of all, we had any bigs to start.
00:31:54.640And there's another, you know, another object has been now shot down over Alaska, right?
00:32:01.860American airspace sovereignty over Alaska.
00:32:05.780Bigs, they haven't even really briefed the house, right?
00:32:11.020I'm not sure they briefed the gang of eight, but they haven't really briefed anybody about the first one, about why it was, you know, why did it come ashore or come over the air of Alaska in our sovereign airspace on the 28th and nothing was done about it.
00:32:35.020My assessment on this is it's a total disaster for Beijing Biden, the Hunter Biden, and the crime family.
00:32:40.800And this comes during the week that the Oversight Committee had that robust hearing into the Hunter Biden laptop from hell, that the Committee on Repentization had their robust hearing.
00:32:50.040And, hey, they better believe that there's hearings coming.
00:32:52.780And by the way, in the Senate as well, as you know, John Testras called for a hearing, a Democrat, because the first balloon was discovered over Montana.
00:33:00.580The issue here for Biden is what are they hiding, why are they hiding it, and when did they know about the original balloon from last week and this balloon as well?
00:33:10.440They just said that they recovered the debris, the payload, from the balloon that was shot down over the Atlantic Ocean after crossing the continental United States, and it is mostly intact.
00:33:37.480And it all lines up exactly with the fact that the Bidens have been doing corrupt business with China, with the Chinese Communist Party, for decades.
00:33:45.340They've been selling out the American people, and we are going to get to the bottom of it, especially with the MAGA leaders in Congress.
00:33:51.000As far as President Trump, what he would have done, he wouldn't have had to do anything,
00:33:53.920because China respected his strength enough to have not played these games with America when he was president.
00:34:00.300The same way that Russia didn't invade anybody when President Trump was in the Oval Office, while they did so under George W. Bush, did so under Barack Obama, and, of course, are doing so under hopeless Joe Biden.
00:34:16.980I had General McCaffrey, who's no fan of President Trump's.
00:34:21.080And McCaffrey was saying what shocked him is the arrogance of Xi to do this so quickly after the last one, given the turmoil it caused in the United States.
00:34:30.520What do you think Xi's mindset is in doing this, Boris?
00:34:33.580His mindset is that he completely disrespects hopeless Joe Biden.
00:35:07.520And I wrote this in an op-ed in Newsweek back in March of 2021, that Biden's feebleness, Biden's hopelessness, his absolute inability to conduct the duties of the office is a real danger to America and to our armed forces.
00:35:24.000And now we're seeing it right, you know, first and foremost, right in front of our eyes.
00:35:27.160We had this balloon go through barely a week ago, and now a second one.
00:35:45.880The Daily Telegraph today has a major column from Colonel Richard Kemp, who's a highly respected analyst in English politics, and particularly about the defense strategy.
00:35:55.700He's saying that there are going to be big losses and that the United Kingdom, and particularly the Tory party, better get ready to brace people for major losses coming in a winter offensive by the Russians.
00:36:07.400They've regrouped, retooled, retrained, and they're coming in hot.
00:36:11.380But the Financial Times in this afternoon, Boris, an article I sent you came forward, and the Tory head of the House of Commons Defense Committee, because the Tories run Commons, he says that the British Army, the British Army could last five days in combat.
00:36:27.600Let me repeat that for our American audience.
00:36:29.880The British Army could last five days in combat, given how much they've gutted it over the last 10 or 20 years, and particularly the last 13 years under the Tories.
00:36:38.600Right before he came on air, Boris, the pro-Western, pro-NATO government in Moldova collapsed.
00:36:44.640It had been in 18 months, very pro-NATO, pro-Western.
00:36:49.320And because of just a popular, you know, people are getting very nervous there about the war spreading, they want to take a different tact.
00:37:19.780The situation in Eastern Europe, specifically in the former Soviet Union, is only going to lead to one thing if it is not settled quickly, as President Trump has called for it to be and said he could resolve it in 24 hours, which President Trump absolutely would, even if it got there.
00:37:34.400Because I think under President Trump, this would have never happened.
00:37:37.100The Russians would have never invaded Ukraine.
00:37:38.640Again, they didn't do so when the president was in the Oval Office because they respected his strength.
00:37:43.140Not because they're trying to be good guys, because they respected his strength.
00:37:46.460Where we are now is you're starting to see the dominoes fall.
00:37:50.620You're going to have Moldova, which is going to be rudderless and come, of course, under the influence of Russia.
00:37:56.560You better believe you're going to realistically see military action there.
00:38:02.480And if anybody thinks that the United States is not deeply involved in that war right now in Eastern Europe, you're pitting yourselves.
00:38:11.440It is our people on the ground as quote-unquote instructors.
00:38:14.440Let me remind you, that is exactly, exactly how the Vietnam quagmire started.
00:38:19.120That is exactly how the Afghanistan disaster started for the former Soviet Union and what it led to, which was the crash of the former Soviet Union.
00:38:27.140And as far as the British Army goes, this is the British Army of World War I and World War II, of Lloyd George and of Winston Churchill.
00:38:33.160And now it has been decimated by the liberals.
00:39:23.080All you've got to do is the defenestration of Prague, which was a huge facilitator of an over-20-year war in the Middle Ages.
00:39:32.100Then I'll have to use two numbers, number one and number two.
00:39:34.960World War I and number two all started within a tiny radius of where this war is ongoing right now.
00:39:40.440World War I started in former Yugoslavia and Serbia.
00:39:44.800World War II started, of course, with Germany invading its neighbors and fighting against the Western Europe, fighting against the Soviet Union on the Eastern Bloc.
00:39:55.660This is an ongoing mess, an ongoing disaster, and it's got to come to an end as soon as possible.
00:40:02.560Again, as President Trump, who knows the layout of the world better than anybody, who knows the history better than anybody, has repeatedly said this has to come to an end within 24 hours.
00:40:12.760Otherwise, we're risking huge, terrible global consequences.
00:40:16.220This afternoon, a press release went out from DHS.
00:40:20.860It said that because they didn't have enough lawyers on staff over there, Boris, with the 212,000 employees, and they didn't have enough in the Justice Department or at the White House or anywhere else in the government,
00:40:30.820that Mayorkas has retained an outside white-shoe law firm, Debevois and Plimpton, to defend him in an impeachment inquiry.
00:40:40.920That's a pretty big bombshell, is it not, sir?
00:41:39.480I want to pull back the camera just for a second and go back over a couple of things we just talked about.
00:41:46.140By the way, after we take a break, Michael Seifert is going to join us from Public SQ as we keep telling people we got to build an alternative.
00:41:54.800Don't stop giving your money to people that hate you, right?
00:41:57.860That's the watchword here at the worm.
00:42:00.020Don't give your money to people that hate you.
00:42:01.600But I want to go back through a couple of things that happened, particularly in this Ukraine situation.
00:42:06.240As you heard from Andy Biggs, what Gates and these folks have put forward is really, hey, we're cutting a resolution to say no more money for Ukraine.
00:42:16.300And what we need is the Biden administration to follow the Constitution and come to Congress under the War Powers Act and walk people through, make a resolution where they give a in-depth what the strategy is going to be, what the objectives are going to be, all of it.
00:42:31.980And we have to force these people to be straight with us.
00:42:34.900The Financial Times of London is quoting the member of parliament, right?
00:42:40.960The member of parliament that sits in commons, that chairs the defense committee, it'd be like chairing armed services committee here.
00:42:48.520He said that the British army, the British military could not last for five days in a war.
00:42:55.680This, by the way, in NATO is our principal ally, not the French and the Germans.
00:43:00.560The French come next and then the Germans.
00:43:04.840The military could not last five days.
00:43:08.220This means you're underwriting everything.
00:43:10.180I keep telling you, the British can only put up one combat division, and we are being sucked in hour by hour into the beginning of a global conflict, and it's starting in a place that since the founding of this republic, we have avoided any type of military intervention.
00:43:28.640That would be the Eurasian landmass by Russia and Eastern Europe in the Balkans, okay?
00:43:41.400Michael Seifert, Public SQ, joins us on the other side.
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00:45:57.200Diamond and Silk, and of course Silk does the show now, had an extraordinary hour on Chit Chat on Getter last night with Dr. Paul Alexander.
00:46:08.480And if Mo and Grace can put the link to that, everybody gets a chance over the weekend.
00:46:15.120It's pretty extraordinary about the vaccine.
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00:47:36.460Other people, I think Larry Kudlow is going to come.
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00:51:15.980I mean, how do people know if they're going to be eligible as entrepreneurs to actually list their own businesses?
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