Episode 2553： Trust The Expert And Don't Question The Pandemic
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The origins of the 2009 pandemic have long been debated, but no one has ever been able to agree on the cause. Some think it was the result of a natural transmission, others believe it was a lab leak, and still others think it could have been the work of a lab virus. What's the truth about the origin of the pandemic? And who s the most likely source?
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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what what what do you mean by do you mean like this perhaps there's there's a chance that this
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was created in a lab there's an investigation a chance well i i i i if there's evidence i'd love
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to hear it there's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking wuhan china what do we do oh you know
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who we could ask the wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab the disease is the same name as
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the lab that's just that's just a little too weird don't you think and then they ask those scientists
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they're like how did this so wait a minute you work at the wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab how did
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this happen and they're like a pangolin kissed a turtle and you're like no i you you the name of your
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lab if you look at the name look at the name can i let me see your business card show me your
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business card oh i work at the coronavirus lab in wuhan oh because there's a coronavirus loose in
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wuhan how did that happen maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey and then it sneezed into my chili
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and now we all have coronavirus like okay okay what about this what about this listen to this
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wait a second all right john oh my god oh my god there's been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness
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near hershey pennsylvania what do you think happened like oh i don't know maybe a steam
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shovel mated with a cocoa bean or it's the chocolate factory maybe that's it that could be
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another surprising development this weekend uh the department of energy released a new report saying
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a lab leak is the most likely origin of the covet 19 pandemic well there it is chinese wet markets
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you're off the hook let's order a round of pangolin poppers for the table i love a nice plate of wet
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apps now if you're if you're some can we get some civet fingers please now if like me you're wondering
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why the department of energy is the one making this judgment it's because that agency oversees a network
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of u.s national laboratories some of which conduct advanced biological research no no bad energy
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department no bio labs until you finish building your electric car charging stations stay in your lane
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you don't see the census bureau building nukes but whatever who am i to say they're the energy
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department i'm sure they're smart they wouldn't release these findings unless they were absolutely
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confident what's that they made their judgment with low confidence yeah you could tell by the way
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they delivered the news um maybe it was a lab leak that's stupid forget i said anything
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now it turns out no matter what the energy department says not everyone in the government
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agrees you see while the department of energy suspects it was a lab leak four other agencies
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along with a national intelligence panel still judged that the pandemic was likely the result of a
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natural transmission and the cia remains undecided in fact the cia issued the following statement
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that was not that wasn't there there was also uh no theory put forth by quote another agency that
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officials wouldn't name wait a second there's a united states intelligence agency so secret
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they can't even say its name is it rumpelstiltskin is it is it fight volvermort
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anyway we'll have more on this story as soon as anyone has anything they can prove
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some new comments from the head of the fbr adding to the debate over the origin of covet 19 whether the
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chinese government covered up where the virus came from this is a bipartisan congressional committee
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set its sights on what it calls china's threat to the united states and to our national security
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nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett hake has the latest a blunt new assessment from the
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head of the fbi about the origins of covet 19 deepening the debate this morning over what triggered the
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global pandemic the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most
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likely a potential lab incident the fbi's agents analysts and biological threat experts assessing
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that a lab in wuhan china was the virus's likely source the chinese government denies that but fbi
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director chris ray says they've tried to hide evidence from the world the observation that the
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chinese government seems to me has been doing its best to try to thwart and obfuscate uh the work here
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the work that we're doing ray's comments coming just days after news broke that the u.s department
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of energy also concluded with low confidence that the virus which has killed more than 1.1 million
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americans had likely originated from a laboratory leak and described it as an accident other u.s agencies
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believe the virus emerged naturally a view which had been the mainstream scientific consensus for much
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of the pandemic the evidence strongly points to this being a natural occurrence of a jumping of a virus
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from a bat to an animal species to human the renewed debate over the pandemic's origin among the topics
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explored in the first primetime hearing of a new bipartisan select committee in congress focusing on
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competition between china and the united states and do you believe that china has taken the appropriate
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steps to make a future lab leak less likely i think that the system that's in place in china does not
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permit for or prize uh serious safety the committee's republican chairman telling nbc news he hopes its work
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serves as a national wake-up call i hope people understand why they should care about the threat posed
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by the chinese communist party why this is not just a distant over their problem but increasingly a
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problem that affects all americans right here at home gary hey okay uh wednesday one march year of
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our lord 2023 uh we're going to talk about that china hearing last night which obviously we've pushed for
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for a long time but you know gallagher yeah i don't know man you got to step it up you got to give me
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some show time it's it was it was uh you got the some of the wrong people out there it's not competition
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the chinese communist party is at war with the united states of america let's be blunt
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and we had all this back three years ago and all you get this namby pamby wandering around everybody
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knows everybody in china knows all the guys in the ccp they know that the wuhan lab is a level four
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uh bioweapons research facility okay and it's very interesting that ray finally came out and he said
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call it an incident not an accident it's a lab incident not an accident let's bring in uh we've got
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two we got rebecca koffler wrote a great piece a couple weeks ago for the new york post about this
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but i want to start uh with natalie uh natalie you see now everybody wants to get on the train about
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this and here's here's why the timing of this is is interesting this is all because um she is
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zelinski's rubbing up on she is his new bestie right and and all of a sudden they're they're leaking
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information non-stop about what we've had for years in fact more powerful about the wuhan lab
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because they're trying to somehow uh because it's all about ukraine it's all about their beloved
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ukraine now that china's sticking their nose in uh biden's uh you know uh you know relationship
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with zelinski they're all up in arms walk us through natalie the the why this is so pathetic
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uh from the american uh uh administrative state and here's what's particularly pathetic
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oh they won't help us they're not cooperating then cut them off with the money cut them off with
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technology censor the the senior leaders of the chinese congress party seize their assets sanction
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them immediately this thing is called devastation we're going to get cortez in there we need reparations
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people in this country the trillions of dollars and trillions of dollars it cost us you think the
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national that's a 32 trade and look how much got put up during the pandemic stop whining they won't
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help us they're not being cooperative well screw them they're not gonna be cooperative force their
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cooperation or shut them down here start taking their assets here in the united states this is pathetic
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you're supposed to be the most powerful you know entity in mankind's history they won't help us
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they're so bad they won't help us it's pathetic natalie winters well i think the other important
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aspect of the timing angle is the fact that the chinese spy balloon really really exposed the biden
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regime's pretty evident weakness on the chinese communist party but it's almost so in your face
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that they now have to in some way shape or form sort of come out and pretend to be tough on the
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chinese communist party which as we know is a position that the biden regime could never actually
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hold or mean to their core because of the compromise that they have at the hands of hunter biden and
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obviously joe biden's political career um but what is i think so important to understand is that
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you know this assessment coming from the department of energy right of all the intelligence agencies that
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they could have chosen i feel like doe is probably the least offensive and what i mean by that is that
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the doe stops short of calling this you know a bio warfare attack calling it what it is calling it
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out uh as an intentional release right they say it's an accident and they say it's low confidence
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um so while it's great because you know the signal not the noise there is that we've been vindicated as
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we've known all along but the noise coming out of the doe uh really stops short i think of anything
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super super meaningful in terms of holding the chinese communist party to account um and it goes
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back you know in the mainstream media clip that you played they talk about this so-called mainstream
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narrative on the origins of covid which was of course buttressed by all the fact checkers you know
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entities like lead stories which we had the the editor-in-chief of that on alan duke if you remember
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two years ago you know they were citing researchers from the wuhan institute of virology
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to conduct their fact checks on articles that i had written at the national pulse
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and show clips from war room and the scientists that were writing the statements whether on behalf of
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the lancet medical journal the world health organization all of these you know so-called
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trust the expert groups they were all part of a i would argue decades long but at least
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since the onset of covid 19 intensive political warfare compromise campaign conducted by
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the chinese communist party so this so-called mainstream narrative about the origins of covid
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is playing exactly in the hands of the chinese communist party and honestly there's no meaningful
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difference in terms of the editorial line of most of these mainstream media outlets and that of
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chinese state-run media up until a few days ago so i don't want to hear the pivot the spin from
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these news outlets as they're you know lamenting that you know the ccp isn't being transparent
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because these people these very same people are the ones who are championing international
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collaboration you know remember in the early days of covid 19 when we were debating here in the united
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states whether or not to shut off travel to china anthony fauci was funding studies at the wuhan
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institute of virology where they were writing papers about how we need to not only keep those borders open
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keep travel going but why u.s and china scientific collaboration is key these people don't understand
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and i think you even saw that at the hearing last night in washington dc because the ccp has conducted
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these very very elaborate and intensive foreign influence campaigns um you can't call the ccp out for
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what they are which is an existential threat um and it's not the ccp that acts alone covid is a perfect
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example wherever you find the ccp's chaos that they inflict here in the united states the american
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establishment is always there either helping them fund it or helping support it you know example
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anthony fauci funding the wuhan institute of virology we know from those emails that went back and forth
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fauci hid from trump from the task force from navarro from everybody he hid the real relationships in fact
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they were emailing back and forth to try to suppress the information this is what we we need these
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hearings have got to be a lot tougher so far and we'll talk about the china thing last night no offense
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nobody nobody watched it had no buzz no heat right no heat and they start off with oh we're in a
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strategic competition we're not a strategic competition they're war with us let's be blunt let's
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stop lying to the american people oh they're not helping us three years they're not helping us
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cut off their money seize their assets here in the united states start playing smash mouth it's a
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today to get your free info kit take action use your agency and about the investigation to covet origins
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is the fbi in charge of the investigation of the origins of the coronavirus uh we certainly have a role
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in looking into the origins of the coronavirus now there's this department of energy study uh that
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says it's likely uh to have come from a lab leak although the confidence low it cites the fbi
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what is the determination by the fbi so as you note brett uh the fbi has for quite some time now assessed
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that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan let me step back
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for a second you know the fbi has folks agents professionals analysts virologists microbiologists
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etc who focus specifically on the dangers of biological threats which include things like novel viruses like
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covid uh and the concerns that they're in the wrong hands some bad guys a hostile nation state
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a terrorist a criminal the threats that those could pose so here you're talking about a potential leak
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from a chinese government controlled lab that killed millions of americans and that's precisely what
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that capability uh was designed for i should add that that our work related to this continues
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and there are not a whole lot of details i can share that aren't aren't classified i will just make
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the observation that the chinese government seems to me has been doing its best to try to thwart
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and obfuscate uh the work here the work that we're doing the work that our u.s government and
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and close foreign partners are doing okay okay um dude you're rounding up you're sending you're
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sending the jackboots from your gestapo to roll up the people uh the the folks uh praying the rosary
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you got 15 guys at how come at the house house up in pennsylvania you got jackboots everywhere going
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after parents rights movement because they don't want their kids to have drag queen story hour uh with
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you know pornography in kindergarten you're all over that this is three years this is so wimpy and
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brett barry ask a couple of tough questions where you just stop sitting there like a moron nodding with the
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knitted brow we know you play a newsman but it's time to ask a tough question or removing to get
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somebody ask a tough question by the way if you want some interesting reading read rupert murdoch's
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talk about a hapless old man which i've said for years an evil hapless old man read his deposition in
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the uh in the they'll never go to court because they're never going to allow that guy to get on the
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stand trust me it would be the end of the murdoch you know myth of murdoch um by the way a guy who
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is virulently anti-trump invariantly anti-populist uh natalie wonders how pathetic is that right they're
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three years into it and they're sitting there they won't help us we don't know dude you're kicking
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down the doors of every uh you know pro-life people saying the rosary you're you're hassling uh the the
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people that are um uh you know going to school boards you know you you got let you you're sending
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you're doing internal reports on latin mass catholics it couldn't be a bigger group of hobbits
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my mom and dad were tridentine catholic couldn't be the that's the the hobbits of the hobbits
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that's all in the shire hang over a second i'm gonna play something it's because natalie you had
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the great monica crowley on yesterday and there's something there's something not right here i can't
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figure out this ukraine the love affair with ukraine and it's it's something deeply sick okay and
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there's something not right going on and there's a lot of things but this is what the fbi should be
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doing chris ray's got to be fired immediately what what is the house doing why are these things taking
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so long why are you not on time agree with mike davis great mike davis up here we got you in power
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we had we had to take a week and fight you you said oh my god it's gonna slow everything down you
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should have been on this months ago and gallagher no offense less that don't be trashing joe mccarthy
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don't be trashing joe mccarthy joe mccarthy got to the bottom of a lot of stuff including who sold
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us out and gave the chinese communist party china which was the u.s government state department okay
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chock-a-block with communists that were sympathetic to the agrarian populism of the ccp got totally
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boy just use the f word right there boom there goes there goes a fine i'm worked up you know why i'm
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worked up because it's so obvious what's going on here they're at war with us and we get the most
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namby-pamby embarrassing do you think they you think the ccp respects this you think you're ccp the
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chinese communist party these guys are gangsters they're global gangsters do you think they were
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they see their chris ray yammering on and whining after three years and the government not doing
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anything and the reason the government's not doing anything the financial uh executive order just came
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out biden warded it down why did biden ward it just it's now for transparency it's not talking about
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the investments getting the investments out why did biden do it in the executive order it's very
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simple why biden did it they're compromised financially compromised by the uh... by but
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you can tell the laptop from hell they're financially compromised at the highest levels of the chinese
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communist party let me play because this goes to the monica cali interview yesterday i thought was quite
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interesting because monica is as smart as they go uh... let me as let me play this marco rubio victoria
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newland then i'm gonna bring in uh... natalie and we're rebecca koffler let's go and play it well um... i only have a minute
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left let me ask you um does ukraine have chemical or biological weapons
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uh... ukraine has uh... biological research facilities
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which in fact we are now quite concerned russian troops russian forces may be seeking to
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uh... gain control of so we are working with the ukrainians on how they can
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prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of
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uh... russian forces should they approach i'm sure you're aware that the russian propaganda
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groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot
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by the ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country and with nato's coordination
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if there's a biological or chemical weapon incident or uh... or attack inside of ukraine is there
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any doubt in your mind that one hundred percent it would be the russians that would be behind it
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to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves
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this we're going to get the we're going to get the tapes on zelinski
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later zelinski saying now your sons and daughters are going to go die on the ukrainian battlefield to save nato
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because the german's kids are not going to do it the germans have the lowest participation in the military in history
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uh... that was a non-answer was it not uh... natalie winters
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well of course i would expect nothing less from victoria newland but i think people need to understand
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not just that these bio labs exist on the proximal border of ukraine and russia and their
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um... but there have been deleted webpages that i had uncovered i believe we broke this about a year ago
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um... talking about what exactly the type of work these labs were engaged in
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um... and they weren't just working with you know deadly pathogens or dangerous pathogens
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in this one article that i had uncovered which again buried lead they erased it
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especially dangerous pathogens uh... it was obama who began the construction of these labs
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um... and what is really interesting is that in 2016
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there was actually a conference at one of these facilities
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um... with ukrainian leaders i believe there are some polish diplomats there too
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but also a lot of united states government representatives
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um... particularly from the department of defense which i think maybe gives us some idea of the sort of research they were conducting there
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and of course the other very interesting link to all of this which
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uh... the fact checkers came out in full force i'm sure probably in part directed by uh... chris ray and the fbi
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um... but hunter biden had invested a very sizable amount of money in a in a pandemic tracking and response firm
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um... and meta biota was a long-term partner of a lot of these ukrainian bio labs
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they had facilities set up there they were working
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um... in these taxpayer kind of funded erected facilities
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um... so that's sort of the other the other link that i i think really reeks in terms of what exactly
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is going on there and the biden regime has kind of continued to just not answer the question or kind of
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uh... just distance themselves but in their own words like i said in these deleted articles and deleted web pages even
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and the pitch jacks of hunter biden's uh... own company you can see that these like i said level three
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biosafety labs do exist so i think the question is why are they lying about it
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uh... rebecca why is the it seems the intelligence agencies have done such a terrible job three years
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into this we're getting this namby pamby oh low confidence from the weapons lab and you got
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dna cia we all know it was a pla controlled reporting to the ccp controlled uh... the bio a biological warfare
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research institute of that there is no doubt and no question why is it why is the intelligence service has been
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two reasons uh... steve first is incompetence and second is extreme politicization of
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intelligence especially at the upper echelons um... look uh... covet is an example of a biological uh...
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weapon that the chinese have been researching for decades and in fact we knew our own government knew that china does have an offensive biological weapons program we knew that since uh...
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in fact state department called them on that and the chinese denied it they said oh it's purely uh...
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defensive so uh... chris ray uh... kept talking about how he couldn't reveal some classified information
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well um... american people are no fools right uh... most of american people already knew thanks to you you know who assessed on this program back on january twenty third twenty twenty twenty
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exactly what covet 19 was that it was in fact a type of uh... biological weapon and it was uh... coming from
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the lab right and so uh... intelligence analyst intelligence agencies failed at their primary mission uh... steve which is to provide strategic warning to protect americans from the threat before it actually materializes and they failed miserably
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at this mission because more than one million of americans died seven million people uh...
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united states suggesting that a growing number of americans believe that the u.s is giving too much support to ukraine
00:29:40.020
what would your message be on the anniversary to those americans thank you
00:29:53.540
i would like to thank all of the american people that are supporting ukraine the congress the president
00:30:03.380
the tv channels the tv channels the journalists and everyone that has been supporting us
00:30:16.980
and that percentage of americans as you've mentioned is increasing
00:30:28.020
if they do not change their opinion if they do not change their opinion if they do not understand us if
00:30:38.020
they do not support ukraine they will lose nato they will lose um the clout of the united states they will
00:30:49.060
lose the leadership position that they are joining in the world uh that they are joined for a very fair
00:30:55.860
reason and they will lose the support of the country with 40 millions of population with millions of
00:31:02.900
children are american children's any different than ours don't americans enjoy this the same things
00:31:11.460
as we do i don't think we're that different the u.s will have to send their sons and daughters
00:31:19.380
exactly the same way as we are sending their sons and daughters to war and they will have to fight
00:31:26.820
because it's a nature that we're talking about and they will be dying god forbid because it's a horrible thing
00:31:35.460
let me have it okay here right there cortez he couldn't be more up in your growth this is what
00:31:40.420
you're paying for ladies and gentlemen i told you from the very beginning on the first day they're going
00:31:45.620
to bleed you out on um on on your money first and then they're coming for your kids steve cortez
00:31:51.220
yes and i mean just it's appalling and it's actually hard to watch steve that tape but we
00:31:55.940
need to watch it because we need to be fully cognizant and aware of the intimidation here from this
00:32:02.900
hectoring and autocratic ingrate okay and that's who he is you would think given that we are totally
00:32:10.100
supporting his government financially given that we are the ones escalating the war that he wants not
00:32:15.300
because it's in our self-interest but it's in his and the self-interest of the oligarchs there
00:32:19.620
in ukraine you would think that there would be at least a modicum of gratitude but instead all we
00:32:27.060
get from zelinski are threats right when he's not busy taking a photo shoot for vogue or welcoming
00:32:32.820
american celebrities and biden and yellen uh to visit kiev a place that supposedly is one of the most
00:32:38.420
dangerous places in the world yet these celebs uh go around a carousel constantly but when he's not
00:32:43.060
busy with those activities what is he doing he is constantly pushing a ridiculous maximalist
00:32:50.340
narrative to the united states trying to threaten us that our sons and daughters are at risk now in a
00:32:56.180
sense in a perverse sense he's correct because they are at risk right now but only because the
00:33:01.460
biden administration insists on escalating this regional ethnic slavic struggle that has no definable
00:33:08.660
discernible u.s national security interest i challenge those who say it does don't give me
00:33:13.220
platitudes don't talk about liberty and the rule of law the rules-based order the new world order don't
00:33:18.500
give me any of those platitudes in that pablum all right give us a realistic realpolitik reason
00:33:24.740
why does it matter to the united states number one and this case should be made to the u.s congress
00:33:29.380
that's what the constitution demands it's also what common sense and any sense of ethics demands make that
00:33:35.140
case to the u.s congress that's number one and then number two if it truly isn't our national interest
00:33:40.100
then what is the plan because the plan can't be an open checkbook okay cannot be number one we can't
00:33:46.820
afford it we simply cannot afford it we are borrowing this money that we're sending there so
00:33:51.940
what is the plan can't be open checkbook what's the actual plan if this is in our national interest
00:33:56.980
for the united states with a reasonable amount of risk to achieve these supposed goals there now
00:34:02.100
let me also just lastly state this is not of course in america's interest at all is it in western
00:34:07.300
europe's interest maybe i don't even know that that's a case but that's not our problem that should
00:34:11.460
be their problem and the point is the wealthy advanced countries of italy and germany and france
00:34:18.420
and the uk if this is actually an existential threat then it is their problem it is their deal to to
00:34:25.380
manage right now the united states is done saving europe we are done financing europe
00:34:31.700
nato let's just be honest about what it is it's not really an alliance it is a protectorate by the
00:34:36.260
generosity of the american taxpayer and it does not make sense for us any longer now that there is not
00:34:42.260
a ussr any longer so europe if this is indeed a problem for you i don't think it is but if it truly is
00:34:49.540
step up put on your big boy pants and start to manage this start to finance it take care of business
00:34:55.140
in your own neighborhood i think look we've tried to kick the can down the road about nato
00:35:01.540
basically western europe's been a vassal state of the united states let's be blunt we paid for all
00:35:06.660
the defense um it's time and i think let me play this again i think people have to embrace what this punk
00:35:14.100
is saying you have to understand he's he's telling you the truth and the media doesn't want to cover it
00:35:21.220
nobody wants to talk about it we said this on day one they're coming for your kids all you are is a
00:35:26.740
hobbit all you are is a deplorable you're just a unit of production and consumption okay to pay your
00:35:33.940
taxes to keep your mouth shut and to send your sons and daughters onto foreign battlefields to die
00:35:40.580
and not to die for the defense of the united states of america to die for the globalists to die for their
00:35:46.740
agenda okay your children not their kids your children and zelinski gives it to you with both
00:35:51.860
barrels let me play it again the u.s will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way
00:36:00.340
as we are sending their sons and daughters to war and they will have to fight because it's a nature that
00:36:06.900
we're talking about and they will be dying god forbid because it's a horrible thing
00:36:11.620
okay that that's incorrect and he says earlier the different what's the difference between uh
00:36:19.060
u.s children and ukraine there's a big difference our children are american citizens and what they
00:36:25.860
should be defending is the vital national security interest of the united states punk the guy's nothing
00:36:30.900
but a pimp and conservative inc that holds him up as some hero it just shows how revolting and how you
00:36:36.900
guys miss the mark hey no offense because your sons and daughters are not fighting either okay
00:36:42.740
this is outrageous and it's now time i think to have the deeper discussion
00:36:47.220
if western europe's got to stand on its own two feet it's just as wealthy as the united states
00:36:51.860
look at davos look at switzerland look at look at by the way switzerland's holding up the arms going
00:36:56.420
over there look at italy look at france look at all the beautiful places right all the great
00:37:01.700
thing all the money they got and they got full uh pensions which by the way the u.s citizens are
00:37:07.780
paying for the pensions of the ukrainian government do you got a pension out there in the audience
00:37:12.500
under 35 years old you suckers that vote for biden because out you are suckers you're underwriting the
00:37:18.580
pensions in ukraine you got a pension how's your pension doing oh you don't how's your full health
00:37:22.820
care doing you don't have that they got in european countries you know why because they don't pay for
00:37:26.820
the defense you do it's time now i think to cut the nato thing free if look if if western europe's
00:37:32.660
so afraid of russia they're so afraid of them they're taking their natural gas and getting the
00:37:36.500
pipelines or anything it's so afraid of russia you guys stand up to it you guys go there and stand
00:37:40.660
up to we're out we're out it should have happened at the end of world war one at the end of world war
00:37:45.620
two in the cold war boom you guys got your deal you got your wealth you make it hard for us to trade
00:37:51.700
you make it hard for us you're always running some scam on automobiles or whatever time now to
00:37:57.060
stand up and defend yourself you're so great stand up and defend yourself we're out he he's going to
00:38:02.820
say your sons and daughters going to go die for nato no no no that would be incorrect sir steve cortez
00:38:09.300
yeah and you know here's an important point too uh and again just how maximalist zelensky is uh
00:38:15.300
and how you know megalomaniacal he really is is that he is now openly stating what i think he used
00:38:21.300
to say privately he's now openly stating that part of the aim of this war is going to be to retake
00:38:26.900
crimea crimea which is fully russian speaking and as we can best tell fully once in terms of the
00:38:33.700
populace there to be part of russia now here's the here's the illogic of this analysis that that we
00:38:39.300
should be supporting this man who wants to retake crimea uh if that were a valid goal if it were
00:38:44.020
important to the national security of the united states then why didn't we do it in 2014 then why wouldn't
00:38:49.700
we then under vice president biden under president obama at that time why would this not have been of
00:38:55.700
such vital importance to the united states when russia took crimea well instead we quite rightly
00:39:01.700
made the decision that this is not in the national interest of the united states that this slavic
00:39:06.580
struggle has gone on for time immemorial and they have been battling over these very lands for centuries
00:39:13.060
and in all likelihood will battle over them for centuries into the future thankfully steve they're lands that
00:39:18.580
don't matter to the united states of america they're of no economic they don't matter we could
00:39:24.100
care less i could care less about ukraine fighting russia i could care less the ukrainian people care
00:39:29.620
about it god bless them i think that's great and if they got allies in in in europe that wants to fund
00:39:35.620
that and do it god bless them they've been fighting over this territory for 5 000 years the tartars the
00:39:40.660
cossacks the huns all of it they'll be fighting 5 000 years in the future our vital national security is on
00:39:46.260
that southern border and the vital national security is also in taiwan where 25 of our economy dump what
00:39:51.700
we ought to do right now is tell nato hey we're out and and and go into taiwan and say we dropped
00:39:56.500
the one china policy taiwan should be an independent nation is an independent nation suck on that okay
00:40:03.060
you want to get to the heart of it it's the chinese communist parties the problem they're also
00:40:06.820
underwriting the kgb in moscow give me a thing about to add to the humiliation i want to just make
00:40:13.380
sure everybody understands what's happened just the last 72 hours we have sat there and whined as
00:40:18.420
a got the administrative state is whined china's not helping us on the labs they're not giving
00:40:23.860
something they're blocking us at the same time yellen's over there in ukraine essentially as the
00:40:30.020
finance minister steve cortez we're underwriting the entire deal over there sir yeah as the finance
00:40:36.420
minister for ukraine at a time when the american economy which of course is her primary first and
00:40:43.140
foremost responsibility her only professional responsibility as far as her life goes at a
00:40:48.660
time that the american economy is is floundering right now and particularly for middle and lower
00:40:53.380
income folks is in a deep deep recession teetering on depression where is she she is in kiev handing
00:40:59.780
out literally billions of dollars that again this is so important that we are borrowing that we do not
00:41:04.100
have billions of dollars that we are borrowing to give to this megalomaniac uh uh you know really
00:41:11.780
did illegitimate leader who believes that he is more of a rock star um and a davos set dilettante
00:41:18.180
than he is a legitimate leader of a country a man who by the way remember what an autocrat he is a
00:41:23.300
man who has literally outlawed churches in ukraine who has nationalized the media made all of its state
00:41:28.980
run who has outlawed opposition parties he sounds a lot when you really take a cold look at him he sounds
00:41:33.940
a lot more like putin than most americans want to believe the point is neither one of them is a good
00:41:38.500
guy neither one of them has the best interest of the united states at heart but here's the great
00:41:42.980
news neither one of them matters very much to the united states if we would simply take a real
00:41:48.740
politic view of realism and restraint and realize where our national interests lie and where they
00:41:54.100
don't and to your point our national interests do lie in taiwan unfortunately it's a terrible
00:41:59.460
predicament that we're in it's decades in the making it's going to take at least years for us to
00:42:03.460
reverse that we should not be technologically and economically beholden to taiwan but the reality
00:42:08.580
is we are and so that absolutely matters it existentially matters to the united states
00:42:13.940
economy and the pacific in general does uh but the bloodlands of of eastern europe of the black sea
00:42:20.180
region thankfully matter not at all to the citizens of this country and we have such severe dire problems
00:42:28.100
here including our own border we need to refocus that attention back where it belongs
00:42:34.180
by the way we're a pacific nation and a pacific power we're not these atlanticists and particularly
00:42:38.980
it's offensive victoria newland there are so many people that have all these deep family relationships
00:42:44.180
and family ties into the ukraine this whole ukraine thing there's something very wrong about this we're
00:42:50.740
going to get to the bottom of it and not going to run around with all the speculation there's
00:42:53.620
something deeply wrong with this this maniacal when you have the secretary of treasury she's
00:43:00.020
over there laying the roses on the thing and giving billions of dollars another 10 billion dollars another
00:43:04.580
1.2 she committed there and she is not it's beneath her to go to east palestine ohio where the hobbits
00:43:11.860
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disposable income that was the worst percentage drop since the great depression making it incredibly hard
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car payments one thousand dollars a month or higher that's now 16 of all auto loans all-time high for
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house gop hold the line regarding the debt ceiling
00:46:28.100
okay i've got cortez i'm gonna come back to you in a second steve but mike allen by the way mike allen
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owes uh cortez uh some money here for uh licensing this morning axios finally caught up with war room and
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steve cortez what weeks afterwards their lead stories about this about the carl delinquencies
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as the reality of the depression of middle class and working class people in this country cortez we're
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gonna come right back to you on all this all the capital markets economy very honored to have
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speaker of the house newt gingrich with us newt uh i want to talk about home title like in the cyber
00:47:00.500
attacks before that the china russia persia new iron triangle axis uh people have taken their
00:47:08.100
off the ball a little bit about persia and about iran uh this is going to be an incredibly serious
00:47:12.900
problem you've been the tip of the spear in this for years can you give us a quick assessment because
00:47:17.300
this is going to get into the attacks all kind of articles about attacks the united states potential
00:47:20.980
assassinations cyber attacks all of it sir look i think we have to take it as a matter of life and
00:47:27.620
death it's very clear that the chinese communist leader xi jinping wants china to displace the united
00:47:35.140
states as the most powerful country in the world it's very clear that putin has made a gamble which
00:47:41.700
is the gamble probably of his life uh i mean if he loses there's a really good chance that he's not
00:47:47.540
going to be around because his allies are going to be so disgusted with the outcome um the iranians
00:47:54.340
keep proving week after week that they are what even the biden state department says the largest
00:48:00.980
state sponsors of terrorism on the planet they are actively trying to get a nuclear weapon they've said
00:48:06.500
openly they want to destroy israel uh when they when they talk about destroying america and they've had
00:48:11.860
their their uh equivalent of congress chanting death to america now as a historian when you have uh people who
00:48:20.820
are fanatics chant something you should believe them when hitler said he wanted to wipe out all the jews
00:48:27.140
it turned out he meant he wanted to wipe out all the jews uh when london wanted to take over the world
00:48:33.060
it turned out he meant he wanted to take over the world uh and i take the iranians very seriously
00:48:38.340
if they can they're going to create the second holocaust and wipe out israel if they can they're
00:48:44.580
going to defeat us and drive us out of the out of europe and now frankly you see the iranians the
00:48:51.700
chinese and others in latin america uh buying up land in panama around the canal doing all sorts of
00:48:58.180
things and there's an alliance in latin america between venezuela cuba and nicaragua we we should
00:49:04.420
realize we are in a long-term struggle for the very survival of freedom look one of the things that you
00:49:12.100
know you talk about unconventional and unrestricted warfare it's the cyber attacks of the ccp of the
00:49:16.980
iranian revolutionary uh army you know guard and obviously all the hackers they have in russia one
00:49:22.980
of the reasons i got fascinated by home title lock was you doing all the spots in in the uh
00:49:27.540
in the specialist forum walk us through the walk us through white right now the american people are
00:49:32.580
so susceptible to their own cyber attack basically by taking their home sir well and look i think this
00:49:39.060
is a perfect place to start because most people don't realize that their title is actually in cyber
00:49:44.980
world it's not just sitting in a piece of paper somewhere and so uh we've had real experiences i
00:49:51.060
personally have interviewed uh criminals who have stolen hundreds of houses and they do it it's a
00:49:57.380
particular narrow form of hacking they go in they get they get your title uh which uh you don't even
00:50:04.340
realize they're doing because it's all out there in the cyber world they then transfer to themselves
00:50:10.580
put their name on it then they go to a bank and borrow a huge amount of money against the house
00:50:15.540
basically a mortgage uh then they disappear and the bank calls you and says when are you going to pay
00:50:21.700
off this new mortgage that you didn't know you had uh and in one case uh i talked to a particular
00:50:28.820
criminal who had been in jail for years got out of jail and was testifying about what he had done
00:50:34.660
he told me that in the in the tampa bay and uh area he had stolen over 200 houses and i said to him
00:50:42.820
he didn't didn't you feel bad he said no i'm a crook that's my business it's not my fault that you're
00:50:49.460
stupid uh and i mean he just was very calculating and very cold about it in his case after he'd had i
00:50:55.620
think six or seven years of successful theft his girlfriend got mad at him and turned him in
00:51:00.260
and that's how they found him but uh title theft is a very serious crime and it's one which has been
00:51:06.580
growing very substantially and i think you have to recognize it literally could turn your life upside
00:51:12.420
down i mean if you suddenly find out you don't own your own home you find out that in fact you have
00:51:18.500
a huge debt but no longer titled your own home um then you have a really big problem that can change
00:51:25.460
your life and i think that uh people don't realize how real this is they don't realize that this is a
00:51:31.700
whole new class of criminals uh these are people who figured out that the real money is in stealing
00:51:37.620
online rather than stealing physically and uh i would say to anybody who owns a home that this this is a real
00:51:44.180
threat no the ccp and the iranians and the russians figured it out first the way to steal is to do it
00:51:51.300
online uh speaker how do people we're going to go you go to home title lock we'll have it up on the on
00:51:56.500
the uh on the chiron how do people get to you for your content where they go to get uh your podcast and
00:52:01.620
all the stuff you put up they go to two places gingrich360.com which has all of our stuff and then i do
00:52:08.020
a podcast called newts world that they can go to newtsworld.com and we we're available you know and
00:52:13.780
and uh like you i mean we've been friends for many years and we both have these very wide-ranging
00:52:20.180
interests and curiosities uh so i try to be available to people perfect speaker gingrich
00:52:29.380
one of the top geopolitical thinkers of our time thank you very much for sharing this
00:52:34.180
home title lock dot com thank you speaker cortez on the other side home title lock dot com let's get
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