Bannon's War Room - Episode 2607： The Hearings For The National Security Of Our Country

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.980 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.580 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.340 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do

00:00:24.720 people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these

00:00:32.420 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to

00:00:39.980 save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.880 the chinese-owned app could be giving american data to the chinese government

00:00:58.620 nbc news correspondent savannah sellers has the latest there are more than 150 million americans

00:01:06.220 on tiktok ahead of an expected grilling on capitol hill tiktok ceo shochu using the platform to

00:01:12.740 directly appeal to its millions of viewers some politicians have started talking about

00:01:18.100 banning in prepared remarks true plans to highlight tiktok's massive reach while also addressing

00:01:23.720 concerns about safety and security saying tiktok will firewall protected u.s user data from unauthorized

00:01:30.840 foreign access and will not be manipulated by any government on wednesday tiktok creators descending

00:01:37.840 on the capital flown in by the company they flew us first class to explain what a potential ban could

00:01:44.420 mean for them and other users tell me what it would mean if tiktok went away right for you for your life

00:01:51.880 oh i'd be so sad if that went away and i hope it don't happen at issue tiktok's parent company

00:01:58.980 bite dance and its ties to china some critics fear the chinese government might get access to user data

00:02:05.260 or use the app to spread misinformation today's hearing comes amid the backdrop of the biden

00:02:10.740 administration's recent ultimatum to bite dance sell its stake in tiktok or face a u.s ban

00:02:16.300 and a justice department investigation into a claim the company illegally surveilled journalists

00:02:21.800 for which tiktok says three employees have been fired we need to ask some questions i don't trust

00:02:28.620 what they've been telling us for jason linton whose videos on adoption and foster care

00:02:34.000 have nearly 13 million followers it's changed his life tiktok has built us a community that we can

00:02:40.780 share so much of those emotions so much of those moments so much of the pains we can share it and

00:02:46.060 we can just encourage one another for me the most interesting thing is the privacy issue in that uh

00:02:51.540 one of the things that came out in this testimony is that tiktok is on 150 million phones uh that's a lot

00:02:57.320 of data uh and as somebody you know the number one thing i worked on at facebook was internal data

00:03:01.740 access controls that was hard enough without my employees being under the physical control of the

00:03:07.880 people's republic of china and so you know most of tiktok's code comes from beijing is extremely

00:03:13.260 difficult for them to give any kind of guarantee as to the safety of u.s data as long as that's

00:03:18.780 happening and so chu mr chu the ceo of tiktok has said not only do we not give data to the chinese

00:03:24.920 government the chinese government has never asked us for the data do you believe him when he says that

00:03:28.980 i don't so first we already have proof that chinese employees of byte dance were able to

00:03:34.960 access tiktok's data to find out information about a journalist who was writing critical stories about

00:03:40.300 tiktok right so there was already an example of that now that's not necessarily driven by the

00:03:43.860 government but the exact same functionality that would allow them to get in there the other issue

00:03:48.480 he's going to have is that over the last couple of years we've seen a massive crackdown on tech

00:03:53.100 companies in china president xi is the most powerful premier and general secretary of the chinese

00:03:58.540 communist party since mao he is has a third term which has not happened since mao and he has been

00:04:04.460 consolidating power and in doing so he has put really powerful tech ceos in jail jack ma of alibaba

00:04:11.180 right now as we speak the largest tech banker in china has disappeared nobody knows where he is and so

00:04:16.840 it is very difficult for them to make the argument in a situation where that kind of power has been

00:04:22.080 demonstrated by the chinese security services that they would be able to resist any requests from the

00:04:26.260 chinese government so having a hundred million americans data what does that mean what could

00:04:30.920 they do with it that could be harmful right so when you think about chinese surveillance you have to

00:04:35.280 look at the big picture and what the chinese intelligence services have gone really good at

00:04:39.240 is taking big chunks of data about americans and then putting them together in useful ways so they

00:04:44.560 broke into experian and they stole all this data on americans credit profiles they broke into anthem one of

00:04:49.820 the largest health care providers including health care to the u.s government employees

00:04:53.220 they broke into the saber system which is that has a hotel reservation i'm sorry airplane

00:04:58.180 reservations they broke into starwood to get the passports of people who are staying in hotels around

00:05:02.400 the world and then they broke into the office of personnel management and stole the classification

00:05:07.380 records over 20 million american employees with u.s employees with clearances you put all that together

00:05:14.320 and you can build kind of knowledge about the entire life of these people who work in classified

00:05:20.360 positions and that is an incredibly powerful functionality when you have it all together

00:05:25.560 and so tiktok by itself yes that data is probably not incredibly valuable but when you combine it with

00:05:31.140 all of this other of these other things and they have not stopped in that hacking campaign they continue

00:05:36.220 to go after large holders of data on american citizens when you put that all together there's a huge number

00:05:42.620 of questions that their intelligence services are able to answer when they have them about american

00:05:46.980 citizens perhaps for counterintelligence purposes um but also to understand what's going on in america

00:05:51.560 uh and to you know possibly in the long run to manipulate political sentiment um which is one of the

00:05:57.980 bigger concerns about tiktok there are a whole bunch of experts who have pointed out okay you want to

00:06:02.820 ban tiktok do that go ahead it's no longer available in the united states of america but there are a whole

00:06:08.380 bunch of other companies there are a whole bunch of other apps that are effectively doing the same thing

00:06:12.480 that's right yeah this is the funny thing is we don't really have a law in the united states that

00:06:17.920 controls what data can you move to china we do not have a privacy law in the united states the rest of

00:06:23.960 the developed world has come up with federal privacy laws or privacy laws that control what can you do

00:06:29.840 with data where can it go who can access it and so i think that is the missed opportunity here is yes we

00:06:34.980 can squish tiktok and you know everybody can pat each other on the back for this bipartisan consensus

00:06:39.840 but in the end there are hundreds of chinese games mobile apps discussion forums social media apps

00:06:47.500 there are dozens and dozens of potential tiktoks out there and just destroying tiktok does nothing

00:06:53.460 to set a standard for how do we want companies to deal with data so i think yes let's talk about

00:06:58.240 tiktok but let's use it as an example example of why we need a federal privacy law to control the

00:07:03.340 behavior of both american and chinese companies the greatest existential threat this nation's

00:07:09.580 ever faced the chinese communist party this is unrestricted warfare and today we're going to be

00:07:15.200 breaking down um the interlocking and interconnecting aspects of uh big tech and uh and big finance and

00:07:23.140 of course the national security state and why no one's doing anything about it there's a hearing today

00:07:28.080 up on my getter page right now we're going to run a simultaneously a simultaneous run by uh

00:07:35.480 grace and mo and jane zirkle uh of the tiktok hearing we've also got our own natalie winters

00:07:41.700 she's focused on it to do polls for us uh that's how important this is to get to the bottom of all

00:07:47.280 this by the way breaking news looks like the manhattan surprise wait for it manhattan da's uh and i hate

00:07:53.540 taking any time on this not meeting today and the grand jury will meet next week uh we'll have more

00:07:58.820 details on that later in the show so that's off the table for right now um as as as the vultures

00:08:06.600 swarm and everything else remember the only way their last best hope is to try to stop trump

00:08:12.460 uh with prison not going to work okay maga ascendant just remember that maga ascendant one of the reasons

00:08:18.300 this you know they never wanted this day to come the ccp and half the people you're going to see

00:08:23.520 you know running for oh yeah we got to get rid tiktok have either been on the payroll or in

00:08:27.340 association with the ccp had this group last night the hill and valley group uh met you know from

00:08:32.320 people from capitol hill and peter teal was it's all fine but you know one third of these companies

00:08:37.580 in silicon valley bank uh were ccp companies and sequoia capitol is all over sequoia capitol is the

00:08:43.460 biggest player in silicon valley and they are a total front for the chinese communist party

00:08:47.900 let me repeat that they're a total front for the chinese communist party it is this bacillus

00:08:53.660 is in our financial system it's one of the reasons silicon valley bank got bailed out oh by the way

00:08:58.420 just a note and we'll talk about this later when corteskin was on 11 uh bank of england uh has

00:09:04.640 notified us that they warned the fed about silicon valley bank hmm over a year ago the potential

00:09:12.640 insolvency of silicon valley bank uh that thing is a festering sore and we're going to get all

00:09:17.820 the pus out of it so that the people that are underwriting the bailout that would be you the

00:09:21.540 american taxpayer and maga get a full a full frontal as we say um dr peter navarre first off i want to

00:09:30.200 give your assessment you you and i fought this one from day one right with all the collaborate all the

00:09:35.600 ccp collaborators in the white house in the in the administration yes there were these these wall

00:09:41.400 street guys were the worst in the book um by josh rogan called chaos under heaven the war between

00:09:49.240 xi and president trump about this the the uh war peter navarre peter navarre and i were proudly in the

00:09:55.040 super hawks which don't believe the chinese communist party is a legitimate uh government of the chinese

00:10:00.480 people that that makes us different ain't never happened in american history you've had a group of

00:10:04.920 officials in the white house to do this and to say no you can't be a hardliner you can't be a realist

00:10:10.460 you can't be accommodation as that's all not going to work this is not about competition they're not a

00:10:14.920 pure competitor they're a mortal enemy to the chinese people and we put them in place we put

00:10:20.100 them in place it was the communists in the state department in the defense department in the war

00:10:24.480 department all of them that put these guys in place after the end of world war ii after the lao

00:10:29.320 baijing had 35 million dead uh fighting the japanese or fighting each other because shang kai shak and

00:10:37.300 mal spent more time fighting each other general still will try to get him to fight the japanese

00:10:41.520 um peter i want your thoughts on tiktok why this is so big because it cuts to the heart

00:10:47.580 of this of the money coming through and they're making money hand over fist by the way just

00:10:53.200 understand this 150 million americans now that is half the nation almost half the nation and trust me

00:11:01.220 it's 90 of the nation under 35 years old matt gates told me in this very room you're sitting

00:11:06.820 here back in july that uh that the hundred seats for 100 years was not going to happen because we

00:11:13.640 were going to lose 25 or 30 seats by a thousand votes because of tiktok because of tiktok on the

00:11:20.060 college campuses he called it back in july this has been a weapon for the chinese communist party

00:11:25.300 uh peter navarro your thoughts steve is as as many tiktok subscribers as you had we could at least

00:11:34.240 strangled that teenager in its crib back in the trump administration um i actually wrote extensively

00:11:40.500 in the taking back trump's america book a whole chapter on my tiktok moment it was one of my biggest

00:11:46.680 failures in the white house it started i don't know if you know this steve but the whole ban on tiktok

00:11:52.280 thing started with indra modi in india when china invaded india modi had the courage to ban every

00:12:00.380 single chinese app so like the next day the boss goes wow okay and it set in motion a thing and i got

00:12:07.140 very involved with the national security council writing the executive order that would have done it

00:12:12.100 and uh sure enough uh larry kudlow larry kudlow yes and steve mnuchin uh the basically talked the boss

00:12:21.620 out of doing it um at the time and we you know that that again then i reprise that into the podcast

00:12:30.380 and and substack this week in an episode people can read that uh you know the punchline is there's just a

00:12:37.240 a dizzying array of economic and national security threats posed by these chinese apps if we had had

00:12:44.540 the the courage uh at the time when i was in the white house to ban all chinese apps that would have

00:12:51.040 been a great blow against the evil ccp modi modi modi is a modi yeah modi is a real ally this guy

00:12:59.400 gets it people that trash talk the indians and trash talk uh and trash talk uh modi they've been

00:13:04.560 invaded twice let's but yeah let's not forget communist china invaded uh india twice uh and the first time

00:13:13.900 they grabbed a significant portion um of indian territory that they're still hanging on to so

00:13:19.940 there's there's a lot of animus between the two i mean they're they're a billion plus each we need to

00:13:25.420 pull down we need we need to pull down we need to pull down all these ccp all these ccp oriented apps

00:13:32.560 need to be pulled down okay starting with tiktok it's gonna she can't sell it crush it pull it okay

00:13:37.240 it's real quick thing i'm gonna keep you through the break i know you got a punch yeah about another uh

00:13:42.260 collaborator elon musk yeah elon musk is a is is in bed up to his neck with the chinese congress

00:13:47.860 party tell me about the new york times elon musk and peter navarro this week yeah the way new york

00:13:53.420 times works they do propaganda they had a lead editorial that basically says go soft on china

00:13:59.240 i took him to task in yesterday's podcast in the substack i put it up on getter and twitter

00:14:05.280 and true social and i checked last night and twitter had erased it totally canceled it so

00:14:12.100 elon musk you still got your friggin bots they're working on words that they they basically

00:14:18.680 anything's against the ccp um or even the new york times apparently uh they cleanse and that's got

00:14:26.460 to stop uh peter navarro.substack.com peter navarro.substack.com i'll hang on steve if you want

00:14:34.140 and now peter you can bond we got it i'll i'll do a diatribe on this i want to say you're the only

00:14:40.980 two individuals in the history of this republic fully sanctioned by the chinese communist party

00:14:45.880 and held in contempt by criminal contempt by congress peter navarro honored to have you on

00:14:51.820 your brother short break back in a moment

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00:16:16.540 i'm going to start with open ai because open ai was founded in part out of a fear that artificial

00:16:22.220 general intelligence or sort of superhuman intelligence shouldn't be in the hands of

00:16:27.040 any one company and was perhaps coming faster than we think like it's coming soon enough and it's a big

00:16:32.340 enough deal that i think we need to think right now about how we want this deployed um how everyone gets

00:16:38.020 to benefit from it how we're going to govern it uh how we're going to make it safe and sort of good

00:16:41.880 for humanity but you do believe that ai can supersede human intelligence i believe it absolutely

00:16:47.320 will there's a big debate about time frames i think it takes like unique human arrogance to believe

00:16:53.080 that uh ai cannot supersede humans but what about that scares you so many things right like this is

00:17:00.440 like you know what does it mean to build something that is more capable than ourselves like what does

00:17:05.340 that say about our humanity what's that world going to look like what's our place in that world

00:17:08.840 i sort of think about it as there's one esker where we are at the tip where it's now about deployment

00:17:16.320 diffusion mainstream the internet maybe took 30 years uh maybe the cloud and mobile took 15 years and

00:17:24.260 now i think we're talking months we think of both the unintended consequences and the benefits both

00:17:30.320 being something that we harness we started the work with open ai i would say three and a half years ago

00:17:35.540 uh when we started building the ai supercomputer in azure to train these large models and when you

00:17:42.240 look at gpt3 to 35 to what's coming these are non-linear developments so they're showing emergent

00:17:48.700 capability the unveiling of the first instance of gpt4 outside of open ai was actually to you

00:17:58.940 because we're just at the start of this you could almost call it a mania like the internet mania

00:18:03.720 so i think education is the most interesting application i think health is the second most

00:18:10.100 interesting i i think over the next you know five to ten years uh we will think of learning and how you

00:18:18.580 can be helped in your learning in a very different way than just looking at material do you think

00:18:25.500 agi eventually subsumes us are we as biology just a bootloader for a future machine intelligence

00:18:32.580 certainly the future will be like and what humans do and how we spend our time and you know what is

00:18:39.120 made available to us will be really quite different but that's been the case for a kind of like life

00:18:45.040 before and after every technological revolution history which i think means some version of emerge at

00:18:52.100 least for some of us i do suspect that even if we think like emerge is good and a lot of people are

00:18:57.340 going to do that really long term there will be many people who don't want to i think human drives

00:19:01.700 will sort of be remarkably the same as they have been for tens of thousands of years and there will

00:19:07.760 be like i don't know maybe it's like an exclusion zone or something where if you want to like you

00:19:11.740 know live the like no agi life on earth you do that people should be happy that we're a little bit

00:19:16.280 scared of this i think people should be a little bit scared a little bit you personally i think if

00:19:21.460 i said i were not you should either not trust me or be very unhappy i'm in this job so what is

00:19:27.440 the worst possible outcome there's like a set of very bad outcomes one thing i'm particularly worried

00:19:33.840 about is that these models could be used for large-scale disinformation i am worried that these

00:19:40.300 systems now that they're getting better at writing computer code could be used for offensive cyber

00:19:45.600 attacks would you push a button to stop this if it meant there was a five percent chance it would

00:19:51.040 be the end of the world i would push a button to slow it down and in fact i think we will need to

00:19:55.600 figure out ways to slow down this technology over time okay joe allen joe what have we just uh seen

00:20:04.620 there walk me through this because this is in a strictly linked with the um the chinese communist party

00:20:10.360 and the chinese communist party now pushed to become a hegemon um because we're in it now and

00:20:15.800 this is one of the substrates that people have to understand as we um as we get drawn into this

00:20:22.020 potential kinetic war the the the inextricably linked nature of artificial intelligence and where

00:20:27.900 we're going on an arms race on artificial intelligence even as we speak joe allen

00:20:31.960 steve i think you hit it there with the ai arms race and what you're seeing uh all of these people

00:20:40.320 that we saw satya nadella bill gates and of course sam altman are involved in open ai uh gpt

00:20:50.520 satya nadella as ceo of microsoft he's kind of the face of this uh he's maybe a little bit more

00:20:56.800 subdued but what he's talking about is a total transformation of the technological landscape

00:21:02.140 and then you have bill gates talking about how ai will transform education meaning that

00:21:09.860 it will transform the way the younger generation thinks and i as i said uh two days ago i really do

00:21:18.680 think that as with these ais regularly ai will prove to be perhaps the most powerful

00:21:26.800 brainwashing tool ever deployed maybe most importantly though steve sam altman who has long

00:21:35.200 talked like this sam altman who's the brains behind this right he's he's the guy overseeing the

00:21:42.240 artificial intelligence development at open ai sam altman is talking about this in terms of creating

00:21:48.440 an artificial general intelligence meaning that instead of just being a language model

00:21:54.820 the ultimate goal is to glue together all sorts of different capacities and create something like

00:22:01.480 a human brain only that human brain would be or that that human like digital brain would be

00:22:09.580 far outpacing human beings and that's again how he thinks of it how he speaks of it and like his

00:22:17.720 compadre elon musk we heard him there in the fireside chat and that was just a couple of months ago

00:22:23.980 talking about that you have to people will basically have to merge with ai in order to keep it under

00:22:33.160 control and we all know what elon musk's version of that looks like with a brain trode connecting you

00:22:39.400 to ai and maybe most strikingly it kind of you know there was a lot there most strikingly sam altman

00:22:47.500 talked about how for those humans who don't want to merge with ai perhaps there would be some kind

00:22:53.560 of exclusionary zone something you know basically uh human beings who want to remain normal human

00:23:00.140 beings will have to remain outside of the thrust of history and you know you talk about china and how

00:23:09.040 this ai at this ai arms race is international china is also working towards artificial general

00:23:16.680 intelligence that's true of baidu that's true of tencent yeah and and many others this is an

00:23:23.220 international ai arms race this is uh bite dance intranational bite dance this is yep the um

00:23:32.720 this is why this thing on tiktok today is because remember 150 million uh citizens of your country

00:23:39.200 download this and not just the data it's also what they're pouring into into the minds of of these

00:23:44.960 kids here's the problem with the ai and the artificial i just want to keep reminding people

00:23:50.100 we're in the first 100 days of this since the launch in davos which caught all the world's elite by

00:23:58.500 surprise with chat gpt was it version three that was version three they've released 3.5 four and

00:24:06.140 they get version five ready to go 3.5 we're within 100 days folks 100 days i want to go back remember

00:24:14.080 uh i uh einstein sent the letter to fdr i think in the late 1930s maybe it might have been 194 i think

00:24:20.120 late 1930s for the atomic bomb we had the atomic bomb then the hydrogen bomb remember that overwhelmed

00:24:26.460 the peaceful use of nuclear power atomic bomb nuclear hydrogen bomb when that got leaked to the

00:24:32.440 russians they became a peer militarily then you had the space race with the ability to rocketry and

00:24:39.120 delivery systems but also to get the high ground for satellites then you've had the bioweapons that's

00:24:45.500 the fourth big one the bioweapons you saw the gain of function but the bioweapons labs all over the

00:24:49.380 world of which nobody wants to talk about artificial intelligence here here's the problem trying to

00:24:54.200 contain it and trying to regulate it and trying to say hey do you have exclusionary zones what can it

00:24:59.360 be can we restrict it from use with children uh you know what are the societal impacts because it's

00:25:06.380 overwhelming even the structures and systems of government that kind of move in a certain pace

00:25:10.960 but here's what you've got and write this down you've got a massive arms race already

00:25:16.540 to have total dominance of this technology and that is happening in labs in china it's happening labs in

00:25:22.760 korea both north and south eastern europe russia all over the place western europe and the united

00:25:28.800 states of america there's an arms race and that's going to mean it's going to get out of control you're

00:25:34.020 not going to be able to control it not going to be able to control it you're not going to be okay i

00:25:37.980 mean we don't we barely we don't even control biological weapons the biological weapons treaty is a joke

00:25:43.000 as you saw from the wuhan lab um this is of the highest import joe we've talked about this for a couple

00:25:50.780 of years and i just want to tell people i'm pretty good at seeing how a pattern recognition

00:25:55.580 this thing joe and and we haven't even gotten back to the other sectors of virgin on the on the

00:26:02.200 singularity they are decades and decades ahead of where people thought that would be is that correct

00:26:08.280 joe allen you agree with that thesis that you know where people talk about oh this is going to take place

00:26:12.520 in 40 and 50 years we ain't looking at a 40 or 50 year horizon anymore are we sir well you know

00:26:19.000 steve there's so much argument about it i i'm not as comfortable as like ray kurzweil who says that

00:26:24.980 2045 is the date we can expect to see the singularity uh you know this is a combination of

00:26:32.640 them keeping back technologies from public awareness that we can only imagine and then they're also

00:26:40.300 projecting power so that they can appear to be as powerful as possible to their competitors but i

00:26:46.960 will say this you know bill gates in his latest blog blog post the age of ai has begun he talks about

00:26:55.060 super intelligence which is something that he rarely discusses to my awareness and he said in his post

00:27:01.060 super intelligent ais are in our future compared to a computer our brains operate as at a snail's pace

00:27:08.520 once developers can generalize a learning algorithm and run it at the speed of a computer we will have

00:27:15.300 an incredibly powerful agi he talks about it in terms of 10 years to a century he's probably probably

00:27:22.540 less confident than i am on a date but i will say this without a doubt this is what these people are

00:27:30.240 driving for this is where they want our civilization focused yes yes okay hang on i'm gonna keep you

00:27:38.780 joe we're gonna take a short break we got some housekeeping to do with some of our prominent

00:27:43.660 contributors going to tell us things that are going on from arizona to texas to capitol hill today

00:27:50.820 moms for liberty are testifying brandon shorewater's got a big event that's going to happen tonight in

00:27:57.360 dallas we've got of course todd woods in the group out in colorado springs tomorrow night and we've got

00:28:02.540 caroline wren to talk about this quite fascinating turn of events in the arizona's governor's race

00:28:08.400 with joe allen all next only in the word

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00:31:50.220 information you got to understand this you got to have a range of alternatives this could be one

00:31:53.880 just check it out um brandon show water people are going to say bannon why are you following joe

00:32:01.580 analyst here why are you following joe allen and all this artificial intelligence and singularity and

00:32:05.860 genetic engineering and crisper and uh you know robotics uh generative robotics all of this you keep

00:32:14.480 talking about the singularity you got homo sapiens on this side and you got homo sapien plus on the

00:32:19.240 other side why are you confusing me by bringing brandon show water in what is the connective tissue sir

00:32:24.800 about the crusade you've led in this country about this issue of uh gender assignment and uh and

00:32:32.800 and transhumanism brandon show water from the christian post well very simply steve transgenderism

00:32:39.860 is transhumanism and i write about this with my co-author in our new book um exposing the gender

00:32:48.200 lie uh this we we write about this with um we talk about how the transgenderism is the on-ramp

00:32:57.800 to transhumanism because think about it would we have thought that uh you know 20 years ago

00:33:04.440 they would be giving children blockers to halt their natural normal puberty and then put on

00:33:10.480 cross-sex hormones in pursuit of a physical impossibility would we have thought that would

00:33:15.000 have been a thing well it is no coincidence that one of the main leaders in this movement

00:33:20.340 who himself claims to be trans uh we he martin rothblatt and he's actually got a tech cult called

00:33:28.700 terrasim where they live for you know forever in biostasis cybernetic biostasis as joe was referring

00:33:35.380 to earlier so this would have been inconceivable just um just a few years ago but this is where this

00:33:42.420 all goes and i know that to many people and believe me i've felt this myself that oh this is just tinfoil

00:33:48.840 hat conspiracy theory you know crazy talk but like no think about it like today we're seeing young

00:33:55.760 people have you know girls as young as 13 have their breasts surgically removed we're seeing

00:34:00.840 children being put on lupron which is a cancer drug the pediatric version is only approved for

00:34:05.640 precocious puberty these medical atrocities are happening in pursuit of this false vision of the

00:34:10.860 human person this is a flawed anthropology that we can somehow make the human being a new thing that

00:34:16.400 it has never designed or meant to be and so if it sounds crazy well that seems to be precisely the

00:34:21.220 point transgenderism is transhumanism and it's all a lie and by the way underlying both of it is money

00:34:28.360 and power okay there is so much money to be made in both of these this is this you see this in

00:34:33.560 tennessee in these situations these situations you're seeing right now where the medical profession

00:34:38.340 is uh is is throwing away the hippocratic oath because there's so much money to be made don't forget

00:34:45.080 that brandon you've got an incredible event tonight we're actually going to have it

00:34:49.000 mo and grace and jane we're going to be live streaming it on war room and my site uh give

00:34:55.200 us the details of it where's it going to be uh who's going to be on there how can people in the

00:34:59.560 local area whenever to show up where they go well i actually don't think we're live streaming it here

00:35:04.920 but um we we are definitely going to recording it and using it for our purpose but yes if you go to

00:35:09.380 christianpost.com slash events you can see unmasking gender ideology protecting children and

00:35:15.420 confronting transgenderism still time to get your tickets 7 p.m tonight here in dallas at first

00:35:21.220 baptist church it's going to be in the truett chapel we've got two great panels it's going to be an

00:35:27.080 extraordinary event they were all part of our podcast series um generation indoctrination inside

00:35:32.960 the transgender battle we're very proud of that podcast series um we are going to confront this

00:35:37.720 issue head-on we must protect children or we must protect families um that's that's just exposing the

00:35:43.620 exposing the gender exposing the gender exposing the gender lie is free also correct and people

00:35:48.460 download it it's a free and downloadable ebook yes free and downloadable ebook at christianpost.com

00:35:53.780 slash ebook slash gender hyphen lie is this 7 p.m dallas time or 7 p.m eastern daylight time

00:36:02.660 7 p.m dallas time yes 7 p.m dallas time at first baptist church yes okay we'll get court we'll get

00:36:10.140 coordinated with you guys brandon showwater thank you very much honored to have you on here

00:36:13.460 thank you steve uh moms for liberty's uh debutante ball today at 2 p.m on capitol hill tiffany justice

00:36:23.300 will testify tina deskovich the other co-founder tina what what is the opening statement about why

00:36:28.800 is tiffany up there why is moms for liberty in this and as i've you know kind of giving you guys a heads

00:36:34.380 up the democrats are going to be full on taking shots because they see you you they see moms for

00:36:39.520 liberty as a big problem thwarting their efforts in controlling the education of our children's ma'am

00:36:45.980 yeah steve we are excited that tiffany has the opportunity today the uh the uh judiciary committee

00:36:54.280 is meeting obviously they have done an investigation and released a report this week where what what and

00:37:00.140 what the report has shown is that local law enforcement across the country said there was no

00:37:03.940 need for the federal government to take these egregious actions of uh you know the threat tag

00:37:09.500 that they uh sent through the doj and down to the fbi to attach that threat tag to parents that were

00:37:15.660 showing up at school board meetings with legitimate concerns over the last couple of years

00:37:19.140 as you know the fbi has contacted parents across the country after speaking at school board meetings

00:37:23.980 some of our own moms that has happened too uh so tiffany is going up there to to let our side of

00:37:29.280 the story be be known and heard and that'll be 2 p.m correct is roughly the committee starts then and

00:37:37.180 she'll be sometime uh after two yeah she gets to speak for five minutes with her statement uh and

00:37:43.580 then it's open to questions like you said and so uh she'll have to take questions from both sides of

00:37:48.500 the aisle uh but you know tiffany is strong uh we've been in this fight for a long time we're both former

00:37:53.380 school board members and you know steve we both had to sit and listen you know after like marjory

00:37:58.400 stoneman douglas for example i sat through 12-hour board meetings where parents came and and we had

00:38:03.320 to sit and we had to listen because that's your job uh and so you know we've been through tough

00:38:07.800 things uh we've been attacked viciously for two years and she is prepared and ready to take any of

00:38:12.940 it head-on today the one thing i'm quite comfortable with is that the moms for liberty are fighters

00:38:19.640 you can you can uh you can uh you can punch back there's no doubt about that uh tina what's your

00:38:26.740 social media your coordinates and how do people get to moms for liberty yeah i hope they'll check

00:38:31.160 out our social media we'll be streaming uh today at 2 p.m the whole hearing uh tiffany's portion and

00:38:36.520 the entire thing it's all moms number four liberty on twitter on facebook on rumble on youtube you can

00:38:42.840 find us uh instagram all of the places uh i see on the screen right now you have our joyful warriors

00:38:47.500 podcast which tiffany hosts uh there's some great episodes we've been releasing from cpac so check us

00:38:53.420 out please click the button join the fight uh we uh we're growing this movement as you know over two

00:38:59.280 years we've gotten to 275 chapters and i'm proud to say as of yesterday we're in 45 states we just

00:39:05.440 brought on alaska fabulous uh we're gonna have it up uh too so for mo and uh jane zirkle and grace

00:39:15.080 will be doing that thank you very much tina look forward to the testimony today too thanks steve appreciate

00:39:20.560 you the the school board effort to take back the school boards take back the administrators change

00:39:27.460 out the teachers all tip of the spear for the parents nothing could be more important okay caroline

00:39:34.440 rand caroline rand joins us caroline we haven't had you on in a while you've been noticeably silent

00:39:39.020 on war room not silent anywhere else i've just duly note um but uh tell us about what happened was it a

00:39:45.840 defeat like the ape associated press everybody goes all it carries lakes all the headlines

00:39:50.500 is everything thrown out except for one thing then you see the one thing and it's a massive thing

00:39:55.420 so was this a victory a defeat what give us a status report a sit rub and then where do we go from here

00:40:02.420 well i would say it's the best result from any court on election day like election integrity uh that that

00:40:10.220 we've seen so but that is a little bit like being the tallest midget at this point um because we've seen

00:40:15.240 the courts reject these cases since 2020 and now 2022 but but we are excited about the thing that

00:40:20.720 they did decide to hear i mean it is big and the fake news is always going to try and downplay anything

00:40:25.400 in relation to carrie lake but you cannot downplay carrie lake and our team getting the chance to look

00:40:30.180 at these ballots and check the signatures i mean signature verification we always said this was the

00:40:34.660 smoking gun in our case and every judge though took the defendant's argument hook line and sinker to

00:40:39.740 avoid having to actually peel back the curtain on signature verification and we were astonished when

00:40:44.620 the trial court refused to consider it and and clearly the supreme court disagreed and so that

00:40:48.860 is a big deal and we had three whistleblowers who were intimately involved in the signature

00:40:53.440 verification department in maricopa county and these folks said that they were rejecting tens of

00:40:58.220 thousands of signatures up to the tune of i think 130 000 ballots and that someone was sending them

00:41:04.200 through anyway and it said one of the higher ups there and the lower courts refused to hear this

00:41:09.100 and so now the supreme court is saying no no no we you do need to hear it and that is very very big

00:41:13.400 there's still some process things that need to come out that we need to see what they're going to allow

00:41:17.000 us and discovery and things like that but but we are very excited that we are going to be able to once

00:41:21.160 again put people on notice and expose the fraud that happened in arizona

00:41:25.960 the correct me if i'm wrong but artificial intelligence comes in this by by arizona statute in the the end of

00:41:35.180 the procedures manual you have to do this humans have to look at this and verify the signatures

00:41:41.480 correct and then they use artificial intelligence just to do on some of these a quick scan am i

00:41:46.580 correct in remembering it was what that was one of the issues yeah i mean they the arizona election

00:41:52.840 statute is irrelevant katie hobbs never even read it that was part of the argument that they made was

00:41:57.180 that oh you know they're just bringing up small process crimes and it's like these are not these are the

00:42:02.260 processes that you guys laid out that you are not following and you don't get to pick and choose

00:42:05.760 the processes that work for you and like help to elect the people you want and there's also a lot

00:42:10.940 of questions as to the humans that were checking the signature verification are they republicans and

00:42:15.080 democrats and these are things again that the court would not even allow us to bring forward and the

00:42:18.960 supreme court is now saying no you can and even thinking back during the arizona audit like they fought

00:42:24.400 tooth and nail to hide these envelopes because they knew that they would not stand up to any scrutiny

00:42:29.400 and we've seen some examples of the signature steve and it's it's chicken scratch it's illegible

00:42:34.940 scrawls and it's absurd and they've been passing them through at a margin that is absolutely more

00:42:39.300 than the margin of victory in this election and think about right now it's i think it's you know

00:42:43.040 with carrie's 60 000 votes 17 000 votes separating and abe hominay is less than 300 and so this is a

00:42:49.340 massive massive deal and it's it's important and maricopa county does does not care about process and

00:42:54.940 they described the way they described this process was patently absurd anyway their timeline was off

00:42:59.980 if they actually would have gone through and done signature verification it would have required them

00:43:04.040 to verify signature every eight seconds and that would have been with people working overtime it's

00:43:08.540 humanly impossible to do so but maricopa county is lying about this they're lying about everything

00:43:13.180 in regard to signature verification and they've been lying about it since 2020 and we're going to have

00:43:17.180 our day in court on it caroline caroline hang on we're because the people remember in this fight

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00:46:46.680 there was nothing and particularly for the audience maybe didn't follow it as closely as as uh the

00:46:53.080 arizona race which was vitally important and super important for 2024 we got to win arizona

00:46:58.420 these people went nuts this is where they try to throw you and carrie into jail right wasn't it

00:47:06.300 they're trying to come out i mean they are so petrified on the scam of the of the mail-in ballots

00:47:11.800 in the in the in the signatures that are not related to the who whoever filled out the ballot

00:47:17.160 or not or i should say not related to the person that's registered to vote caroline wren

00:47:22.100 oh yeah i mean after the whistleblowers from the signature verification process in maricopa

00:47:28.000 county came forward saying they were pressured to approve bad signatures a deposition was put out

00:47:33.580 for the assistant elections director i think selah neighbor and then the attorneys were informed that

00:47:38.160 she was no longer employed by maricopa county and that all efforts to track her down have been

00:47:41.960 unsuccessful like that's beyond suspicious and then don't forget steve it was the issue of signature

00:47:47.480 verification that led to cartel lawyer in the secretary of state's office adrian fontes to refer

00:47:53.360 carrie lake to chris mays the illegitimate attorney general for prosecution like because carrie tweeted

00:48:00.060 out if you remember a few different pictures of signatures not matching and they referred her for

00:48:04.260 criminal she currently is being referred for criminal prosecution for doing that and her twitter account

00:48:08.500 shared a publicly available information information that had been live streamed and submitted into the

00:48:12.980 public record at the arizona state senate and fontes adrian fontes wants her thrown in jail for that

00:48:18.300 and you know why that was or is is because fontes was the maricopa county recorder for 2018 and 2020

00:48:24.280 he knows exactly what the signature verification process looks like and he's terrified that the

00:48:28.860 rest of us are going to find out and now because of this ruling we will

00:48:32.620 walk us through the timing of this what what is what's the course of what's the critical path here

00:48:39.500 we don't know the court did not say if it because the it was in the past filings it says this needs

00:48:46.300 to be expedited and that was not clear so we're gonna have to wait for further details to come

00:48:49.540 out right now obviously our attorneys are looking through everything there they're we're disappointed

00:48:53.580 that we're not going to get to hear on the merits of the other things although we you know we do feel

00:48:57.260 like we laid out an excellent case at the trial court level a lot of people were watching that and so

00:49:01.760 we're putting all these people on notice but this is why it is so important that carrie lake fights

00:49:05.740 when others won't be willing to every single thing matters bringing these signature

00:49:09.280 verifications back to the trial court that could be the difference for the republican nominee in 2024

00:49:13.340 and cleaning up these processes and it takes fighters like carrie lake and the republican

00:49:18.020 party needs to wake up and fight i was thinking this morning about there's a wisconsin supreme court

00:49:21.980 race happening right now that we're not really paying attention to the democrats are dumping

00:49:25.460 millions hundreds of millions of dollars into this race and like these these seats matter this these

00:49:30.440 positions matter this is how they're taking our country from us and we got to wake up and we have

00:49:34.580 to play the game and fight fire with fire that the democrats are playing and carrie lake is the

00:49:38.640 biggest fighter we have the most important yeah the most important election in uh in 2023 is

00:49:44.320 wisconsin on 4 april i think we're gonna try to get scott presser on if not today then this afternoon

00:49:48.840 we're covering this thing and it is big league important uh and right now it's a dogfight up there

00:49:53.860 the democrats put tons of money caroline it's important enough you decamped you've decamped from

00:49:59.820 mar-a-lago and you're on the you're on scene commander out in arizona we thank you for that

00:50:03.880 um and remember caroline wanted wanted wanted to take down her many appearances on worm because she

00:50:10.580 said she was getting too much fan mail so hopefully we kick it back up again what's your social what's

00:50:15.220 your social media caroline it's at caroline wren on twitter get her truth anywhere and then if you

00:50:22.180 want to read more about our case go to save arizona fun.com caroline wren thank you honored to have you on

00:50:29.860 here thank you for joining us this morning thank you carrie lake uh fights on by the way kiss prayers

00:50:35.900 for carrie lake's sister she's had a quite serious medical problems one of the reasons carrie is

00:50:40.320 uh all over helping her sister today uh really want her prayers to go out for her sister's uh health

00:50:46.520 sister's great person um out there in arizona with us make sure you have prayers for carrie's

00:50:51.780 sister um joe allen uh both remember that they try to use the ai in this in the arizona thing they

00:50:59.080 didn't want to get they didn't they could not meet the requirements of having humans do it right

00:51:05.940 and and see another situation ai but i want to go back we got a couple of minutes here brandon

00:51:10.460 showwalter is uh is this gender assignment is that the on-ramp to transhumanism sir

00:51:15.880 you know when showwalter was talking about martine rothblatt uh it's really really important i think if

00:51:23.260 the audience looks into rothblatt i've written a bit about rothblatt that is a flashpoint for where

00:51:30.900 transgenderism and transhumanism connect but there's really a couple of different strains

00:51:35.880 though you have a sort of heteronormative transhumanism that wants to become as you know

00:51:41.520 digitally and uh hormonally masculine for men and and the same femininity for women there's there's a

00:51:48.820 a wide variety but there's absolutely that strain that sees a direct connection between their

00:51:55.460 transgender sort of product uh projects and the the future of transhumanism i think too steve just the

00:52:03.660 the idea that technology can be used to fundamentally alter a human being without a doubt transgenderism is

00:52:11.400 sort of a test phase for that because you see not only adults doing this you see first the culture

00:52:19.720 change and the culture change among the young and then after that you get this widespread transformation

00:52:27.080 that is facilitated by the biomedical establishment and when you come to a point where people are

00:52:35.100 uncomfortable with it or furious about it or disgusted with the whole process then suddenly those people

00:52:41.040 who are uncomfortable are shoved to the side and and made to be seen as villains when they in fact

00:52:47.240 are the only heroes joe give us uh your uh your coordinates brother that's joebot.xyz warroom.org

00:52:57.740 under the transhumanism tab and getter and twitter at joebotxyz thank you very much steve

00:53:04.300 thank you brother great great hour okay 90 seconds cortez the economy in you all next

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Episode 2607： The Hearings For The National Security Of Our Country

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