Episode 2613： Trump Rallies Against The Deepstate In Texas
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Former White House presidential personnel chief John McClinty and the founder of the Right Stuff Dating App joins me to react to the latest in the Donald J. Trump scandal, as the former president heads to Waco, Texas for his first official 2024 presidential campaign rally.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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today former president donald trump heads to waco texas for his first official 2024 presidential
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campaign rally and this is as manhattan da alvin bragg postpones trump's grand jury session into
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potential hush payments creating speculation about the weakness of his case here to react
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john mcinty is former director of white house presidential personnel office and the ceo
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of the right stuff dating app which we're going to be talking about here in just a moment
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on fox news but first let's get to this trump rally as we don't know what's happening in new
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york anymore is it or is it not going to happen with this indictment uh what's your reaction my
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reaction is that the president's probably going to come out swinging i think every attack we saw
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over the last seven years has only made him stronger and i think this is becoming a rallying cry for
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not just conservatives but everyday americans who see him as the symbol and them attacking him as
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you know attacking themselves so i think people are going to rally behind him i think this is all
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going to backfire and um god forbid something does happen i think it'll work in his favor yeah i mean
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we've seen that in the polling numbers they've gone up recently as he's as the threat of indictment
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has loomed right yeah and i think um with the left you know you saw them always accusing trump
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of undermining faith in our institutions but that's exactly what they do i think that's what
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they're doing by weaponizing the justice department and i think people are sick of it
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yeah conservatives are worried about it i think liberals they just they they make a real effort
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not to understand the trump voter and um you know it's like oh de santa is going to be great because
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he's it's trumpism without trump and i think they're like why would we want a tribute band
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i agree 100 i guess de santa's can fill a room but he can fill it with the kind of energy you want
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to then leave the room like he's he does not have the warmth but on top of it the thing that so i went
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back a couple weeks ago do you guys remember the first debate in 2015 it's august 2015 right and so
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the republic everybody's like what what the hell is about to happen so they did the junior debate first
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it was the seven republicans who didn't get to like five percent then they bring them all out
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it's ten guys the first question to all ten of them was who will raise their hand and say that they
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won't support the nominee no matter who it is trump raises his hand and the crowd boos
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they i mean a lusty boo and it's like watching the the five seconds before pompey goes off before the
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is there anyone on stage and can i see hands who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the
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eventual nominee of the republican party and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that
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person again we're looking for you to raise your hand now raise your hand now if you won't make that
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pledge tonight mr trump so mr trump to be clear you're standing on a republican primary i fully understand
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what then happens is they're booing and trump not a word gives a gesture he gives the trump face which
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is like i'm kidding me these jokers around me and you can actually hear the crowd turn from a boo to a
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to a shriek of joy because he's the transgressor he's johnny rotten of the republican party you will
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not find anybody who delivers for those guys better than him he's a place where the rnc will give the
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nominee the nod i fully understand and that experts say an independent run would almost certainly hand
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the race over to democrats and likely another clinton you can't say tonight that you can make
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that pledge i cannot say i have to respect the person that if it's not me the person that wins
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if i do win and i'm leading by quite a bit uh that's what i want to do i can totally make that
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pledge if i'm the nominee i will pledge i would not run as an independent but uh and i am discussing
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it with everybody but i'm you know talking about a lot of leverage we want to win and we will win
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but i want to win as the republican i want to run as the republican nominee that's why there's a
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certain click in high school and you don't understand why are they the cool kids they have confidence
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and the rest of us are insecure obvious so do the numbers back this up this regular people argument
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you know if ron de santis was doing as well with voters who make less than fifty thousand dollars a
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year as he is with voters making over fifty thousand dollars a year this race would be tied
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between him and donald trump but in fact what we see is that ron de santis has a major problem among
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republicans who make less than fifty thousand dollars a year i mean you can see it on your slide right
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there he is down by nearly 30 points that donald trump among voters who make less gop voters who make less
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than fifty thousand dollars a year and that's the reason why he's trailing in the primary so his clip
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doesn't make all that much sense to me to be honest with you aaron all right so hold this up for one
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more second just as i set up the next question so you see that um donald trump is doing much better
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right with this group under fifty thousand dollars is that the same way it was for trump uh in the last
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cycles yeah if you look back at 2016 you know there was this whole idea that donald trump ran this
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populist campaign right and he was doing well among you know the quote-unquote his quote poorly
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educated people but in fact there was no real gap on income he did about as well with voters who made
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less than fifty thousand dollars as he did with those making more than fifty thousand dollars so
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this year we've seen this income gap really grow and this trump populist campaign really seemed to
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take off okay so that which is very interesting because and you're talking about things with trump
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taking off right the context everyone's hearing about is all this legal issue and is that going to put
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you know take all the bloom off the rose such that there was any left but you're talking about
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not just income but also a coalition that appears to be coming together for trump yes that democrats
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would actually like yeah it's very interesting in a republican primary the two groups who donald trump
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is doing very well well amongst are white voters making under fifty thousand dollars he has a double
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digit advantage with them as well as non-white voters this is the type of coalition that democrats would
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love to have in a general election and what we're in fact seeing is that in this republican primary
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donald trump is doing what democrats would love to have and what they used to have but donald trump is
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doing themself they're doing stuff with of course but i should note with the gop primary and that's
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not a high minority group no but they still make up nearly 20 percent of the gop electorate which is
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important okay so so people who might say okay harry but it's important 20 percent significant thanks
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okay it's saturday 25 march year of our lord 2023 by the way as we put these together in the morning
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that is not on denver our our our uh distribution partners are real america's voice the f-bomb was
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was a miss on our part for the audience you know close the ears the kids but it was quite a telling
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there um very important here's what's happening we're going to talk about waco we're talking about
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politics we're going to talk about polling the bank crisis the financial crisis geopolitics all
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of it we're going to get into all of it today um for the next two hours it's it's the kickoff to the
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waco weekend also john ferricks i think we're trying to track him down uh to talk about east palestine
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our big two-day special out there in east palestine with real america's voice in the entire team
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uh politico uh has a story about the um and remember politico and nbc news two huge stories
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breaking this morning the lead on politico and the lead on the nbc not msnbc nbc news site
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by jonathan allen and the great team they got over there uh these two stories uh the politico story
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is about uh the beer track and the wine track in the republican party and they're saying trump just so
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dominates the beer track which are um you know um people making under fifty thousand dollars a year
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they call them uneducated we call them very educated because it's the war room posse and this
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is the most complicated show in all media throughout the world and you guys love it and just want more
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and more information um trump's dominating in that and then nbc has got the tell because it's a meeting
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they had i think yesterday or thursday and it's uh of big donors in the 16 major people around the
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the desantis effort and it's basically failure to launch in the book tour let's be brutally frank
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here the the the it's just not you step up on the big stage you're either ready or you're not
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you saw donald trump right there and the bill maher we actually cut did the cuts back to that first
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debate he was ready from the get-go that's the very first debate and we're trying to cut right now
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the megan kelly where megan kelly tried to kneecap him moments later and people got to understand
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when you're on live stage with the whole world watching you and they're tossing these things up
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you got to be on it you got to be quick look at that trump right there trump uh was calm cool collected
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had a great great answer right for will you support the republic nominee and the key thing there is the
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is the big lusty boo when he first said it and then he gave his his reason for it turns to cheers
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okay uh we got a lot to go through today including the reality of this primary and you know i want to
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tell all of trump's enemies because we know the producers all these other shows watch this and the
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ccp intelligence watch it because we trash them every day and uh law enforcement all of it suck on this
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your efforts because you can't beat him at the polls we you can't beat him at the ballot box we know
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that because you didn't beat him in 2020 trump won okay trump won suck on that we know trump won
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didn't close but he won he's going to run the tables this time because the nation the bottom's falling
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out of everything the convergence of the geopolitical military crisis and the global financial crisis brought
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on a created crisis by our elites particularly the illegitimate figurehead they have at 1600
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pennsylvania avenue the worse it gets the better trump does and right now all you've got you couldn't prove
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any crime so now you got you're doing conspiracies conspiracy in new york a conspiracy in uh in georgia
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a conspiracy in mar-a-lago and a conspiracy at the j6 you got nothing zero zip and all it's doing
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is galvanizing the american people around president donald j trump i want to bring in liz harrington
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senior communication strategist for the president liz uh just give me your assessment of our open bill
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and bill maher says you know why do you want to have a tribute ban when you got the real thing and
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that liberals don't understand and the republican rhinos don't understand the trump voter ma'am
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well they never have and actually i think they don't want to understand them because they don't like
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them they they actually have disdain for the average american they don't want regular americans to be
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able to choose who leads them because guess what they'd never choose them they would not choose
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these feckless awful so-called ruling class elites and they're nothing of the kind and i think what we're
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seeing is that realization come to this donor class you know whatever assurances they had tried to give
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ron de santis you know don't worry about it stay out until we'll take care of trump the indictments
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will come well now there's a recalibration going because they realize whatever sham charges they try
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to bring up it's going to backfire like it has for the past seven years and he'll only get stronger
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and the people are going to rally around president trump like we've never seen before today in waco
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i mean this is just the beginning and more and more people see it they see the ruling class showing
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their true colors they've had enough of it and once you have the real thing i think this is the key of
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president trump's success i mean we haven't been used to it before president trump came along because
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we haven't had it in so long it's been decades since we had a real true leader who actually has
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integrity who's the same no matter the audience no matter if he's in private or public he's true to
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what he believes and he delivers on those beliefs and convictions that's true leadership that's what
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america needs it's common sense and once you get that you're not going back you're not going to go back
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to the same old finger in the wind you know consultant class telling these candidates what to do
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because frankly they have no integrity and everything they do is a lie because they don't
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actually believe in it and it changes all the time so the people are smart you know you nailed it too
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steve when he said this audience is smart oh the so-called uneducated no they're actually the most
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educated because they have the most common sense and they make this country run they they know who
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president trump is he knows who they are exactly yeah they're it's on it's on their shoulders liz hang on
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we want to keep you for the next block john frederick is also going to join us i want to
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the buried lead there is what bill maher so i know he's he's not a trump fan and mostly on his
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but he's a smart guy he said they have confidence and what i would say is we got the swagger back
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you know where it came when donald j trump went to east palestine ohio and then started putting out
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these policy videos that separates him from the controlled opposition running against him okay short
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you know i i lindale's going to join us in the second hour he's getting ready to head out to waco
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want to tee it up i got frederick's here but i want to tee up when liz comes back
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first off we're probably the largest audience in the world when you add it all up globally
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but its size doesn't matter in this regard it's punch and and you are activists this is the activist
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show right the human agency show and we cover complex um issues and we don't dumb them down
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we we had stephanie pomboy on yesterday who's fantastic her first appearance here she's one
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of the top macro she runs macro mavens one of the top macro strategist in the world on fox all the time
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cnbc all the time and she was a little hesitant to use like the greenspan put the types of things
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inverted yield curve the types of things that you this audience now knows or is getting comfortable
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with over the last couple of years russ vote the same way russ i'm gonna play some clips on last
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night russ uh is is amazed by the punch this audience has and how important this audience is
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to drive the conversation to drive the narrative to drive um you know policy in particularly this in
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russ's case we got to stop the spending it's the um the prioritization of payments right to just take
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the cash as it comes in pair never default on the debt and force these guys to have massive cuts to
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the federal budget today uh the guardian politico and nbc news and if you had to throw the you know
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those are three of the top six or seven you had though the ft the wall street journal the new york times
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and wapo okay those are the other four but you had these three politico the guardian guardians out of
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out of um manchester originally but it's the uk now i would guess the most that's the most progressive
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newspaper in the world best edited you've got the politico owned by the germans now but still the the
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the go-to for politics although totally left-wing and of course nbc news the guardian i think dave smith
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wrote it trump hater i got it up on getter right now if you're gonna say trump hater
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it's it's saying trump lives rent-free in americans heads boom just they're throwing in the towel saying
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okay you can't this guy's a phenomenon uh politico trump and versus de santis de santis got the wine
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track the white wine track trump's got the beer track beer track is like 80 of the votes
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um then you've got the nbc which is the biggest tell of all and this is a brutal article and it is
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incredibly well sourced and it's written by real people john allen jonathan allen over there i think
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on the left is one of the he's like a jonathan swan these are these are old school good reporters
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well sourced that is a brutal story ladies and gentlemen because that is the inner sanctum
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of the de santis operation and they understand something we've been saying there's a failure to launch
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on this book tour didn't happen numbers went in reverse number one he didn't own the material
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for instance on ukraine and other things we're gonna get to that in a second with liz
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what bill maher said is that they got the they got confidence like the cool kid the cool kids table
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they have confidence i call it swagger we didn't really have swagger when he launched november we got
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swagger now and the more you put pressure on trump the more you try to encircle him he's the best
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counter puncher in the world you can tell his back's up and we're rolling right now john fredericks the
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inflection point brother for donald trump's uh 2024 presidential campaign was east palestine ohio going
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out there we're going to be there this week talk about that talk about how that was an inflection point
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for trump that that and doing these every day these short two-minute policy videos because
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once you see the policy video you go back and look at nicki haley or tim scott or ron de santis and what
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you see is same old same old trump comes at it from a populist nationalist perspective right totally
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different uh john fredericks the importance of east palestine ohio in the 2024 presidential race sir
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going to east palestine president trump basically launched his presidential campaign for 2024 and
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what it demonstrated is basically the difference in depth of our movement and everybody else everybody
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else was afraid to go there they were scared of what the media would say they didn't care about
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the people once again president trump went there and said to working people you called them what
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the beer set the chips and beer set he went there and he said hey i got your back just like i had
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your back in 2008 i've got you i've got this this reignited his campaign this has been the catalyst
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and i tell you what these videos are and i'll get the east palestine in a minute you nailed it because
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he's doing these videos these are policy and they're in great detail and the absolute veracity of
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those steve and the depth of them as compared to these empty suit vacuous uh you know pansy statements
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being made by these people yeah contrast to you know that to desantis's of uh tour with the book tour
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which has been a total bomb his polls numbers are tanking peers at morgan people are saying hey i got
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to get back to the real deal liz harrington said something the other day on my show nailed it she said
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the problem is now that our base is accustomed to the authenticity of donald trump they see right
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through the nonsense that's why desantis's press conference on money was such a disaster maybe
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seven years ago that wouldn't have mattered now it's like no we know what the real thing is
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that ain't it ron that's why his campaign is tanked now let me get the east palestine nobody's gone
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there we're going hold on hold on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on
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because before we pivoted that you just hit a great point that liz just said you know these guys
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poll test finger in the wind and uh focus group seven or eight years ago for trump that would have
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worked but now because of uh like real america's voice um all these podcasts worm include your show
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include radio shows the tv shows not the fox news but the level of detail i keep saying people are
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looking for authenticity and they're looking for somebody's going to fight not some wimp somebody's
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going to stand in the breach and fight you're absolutely correct and liz nailed it people can
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tell when desantis came out they knew that was focus group they knew that was poll tested they knew
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the way that he did you know he he paused and came back did the porn star and the hush money
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they're not that that doesn't work anymore that might have worked in the old days it does not work
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today and that is why the republic establishment and that's why the nicky haley's a failure to launch
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tim scott will be a failure to launch right they're all going to be failures to launch because they're
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playing out of the same old playbook mike pompea i love mike pompea the cpac speech was a disaster
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it doesn't work anymore they want authenticity they want competitive heart and they want somebody
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who's going to be the trenches we're fighting to take our country back and on the world stage
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we're fighting to not just save our country but the world john fredericks
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when you've been fed real u.s prime beef steak by donald trump for seven years and then you walk in
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and somebody hands you a plate of tofu and calls it steak you spit it out that's basically what is
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happening here people are seeing through this nonsense because president trump president trump
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was able to show us real authenticity and that's why none of this stuff like you just said is ever
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going to work they can do all the focus groups they want they're all still doing that they're all
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still going to consultants in dc making all this money and if you really look at desantis on monday
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that was his edwin musky moment it destroyed his campaign he's done because it was so scripted and
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so ridiculous and they think they're so cute that's the other thing they think they're so smart and so
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smug and they scripted this out and they planted the question and they threw in the hush money and the
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porn star at the end right and they said soros da 19 times oh aren't they so brilliant guess what
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it blew up in his face because people saw that after 72 hours and said that's who you are that's
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how you're going to define yourself to me i'm taking a look at you hey i don't think so give me the steak
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over there because my country's hanging by a thread and that ain't the answer that's why he's done
00:26:08.480
tell me about uh east palestine the importance of it the importance we're going there for the people
00:26:16.240
but the people in east palestine have to understand something you're symbolic for this nation and for the
00:26:21.940
world right now john fredericks well listen steve i said this the other day this is why yourself and
00:26:31.320
me and rob sig this is why we put our capital and everything else on the line to build this network
00:26:38.320
for east palestine for something like east palestine when no one else will go no one else
00:26:44.600
will give anybody there the time of day no one knows who still to this day call the shot for the
00:26:51.160
controlled burn what their future is their real estate uh values have dropped to zero nobody cares
00:26:58.920
about them so we're going to go out there john fredericks media network rob sig rv steve bannon
00:27:04.280
war room we're going to go out there two days we have a two-day town hall meeting we want everybody to
00:27:10.460
come my tuesday march 28th from 6 a.m until your show ends at 7 p.m we're going to be there we got a
00:27:19.420
tent in the back we're at the famous original roadhouse grill in east palestine now if you're
00:27:27.980
in east palestine monday 6 a.m to 7 p.m at the end of steve's show then on tuesday 6 a.m the noon
00:27:35.260
so if you i'm i'm sorry tuesday the 28th 6 a.m to 7 p.m and then wednesday to tuesday wednesday
00:27:43.920
wednesdays till noon we have a tent in the back don't be concerned about the overflow there'll be
00:27:48.380
plenty of food there but we want to hear from you now we've invited everybody right we've invited
00:27:53.780
the fire chief the mayor the whole bunch of them all the uh elected officials but the main purpose
00:27:59.660
of this is we want to hear people from you you tell us what you're going through there and we're
00:28:07.060
going to bring it to the national audience so we can tell your story john and your play
00:28:13.060
john we're going to go to break just hang up for a second we've got liz harrington senior
00:28:18.100
communication strategist for donald j trump john frederich of the john frederich radio show short
00:28:23.220
break back in real america's voice warm just a moment here's your host stephen k bann
00:28:29.740
okay welcome back uh john frederich one more time the east palestine uh schedule we're going to be
00:28:39.080
there to people we're going to meet as many folks as possible hear your stories and we want the nation
00:28:43.420
to hear your stories john give it to me one more time and then i want to hear your um your picks for
00:28:49.080
the weekend tuesday march 28th 6 a.m to 7 p.m we're all going to be there please come we want to hear
00:28:59.500
your stories and then wednesday on march 29th in east palestine 6 a.m the noon we're going to end
00:29:06.520
with the uh first edition of the war room show and this is at the original roadhouse grill in east
00:29:13.920
palestine everybody knows where it is easy to find the restaurant is ours you can have seating there
00:29:18.900
we'll have seating in the back in the tent we want you to come be a part of it we want to hear
00:29:25.500
your story if you're in east palestine if you're in western pennsylvania you've been affected or
00:29:31.080
anywhere in eastern ohio please join us on tuesday the 28th and wednesday the 29th east palestine
00:29:38.580
abandoned no more it's a big article today we'll get it up in the daily mail about uh the the runoff
00:29:47.600
dumping in i think to the chesapeake bay we'll we'll get to that i'll pull that up later so early
00:29:52.240
this morning john what are your your your side your side hustle is the sports book uh what are
00:29:58.100
your picks for the for the degenerate gamblers on my staff what are your picks for the weekend
00:30:02.060
march man is i've been hot as a pepper go to godzilla wins.com godzilla wins.com you get my
00:30:09.200
saturday and sunday picks there i'm eight and four so far in the tournament so you're up big uh today i
00:30:15.820
like two games gonzaga plus two and a half i love gonzaga take the dog here i love gonzaga and
00:30:23.300
i love florida atlantic university over kansas state kansas state is tough big 12 but all florida
00:30:30.400
atlantic does is win and uh you're going to get to there take the two dogs for sunday's games just
00:30:36.500
go to godzilla wins.com godzilla wins.com make your staff a little jack for the weekend
00:30:41.680
john fredericks thank you and thank you for putting this together with rob sigg out in east
00:30:47.780
palestine thank you very much thank you steve liz how uh liz liz harrington uh senior communication
00:30:56.080
strategist for president trump and former executive editor of the war room ma'am uh how big a deal was
00:31:02.880
president trump going to talk about authenticity trump going to east palestine what's your assessment of
00:31:08.480
that well i think it was huge because really it's reminding people the same old story you know you
00:31:15.200
talked about you know the confidence and why that's returning to the american people we had
00:31:20.540
confidence under president trump's first term and why did we start to get that when he started when
00:31:25.660
he came down the escalator and told everybody what was happening in their own words and they said
00:31:32.180
yeah we're sick of this and we're sick of being knocked around and east palestine
00:31:37.500
is a prime example of them knocking around the best of america and we're not going to take it
00:31:45.160
anymore and i think him showing up which only he could do he he is the only leader who was willing
00:31:52.340
to do it but who has the hearts of the people and who has their back and so him doing that when the
00:31:58.120
biden regime totally abandoned them still has abandoned them weren't even going to show up
00:32:02.160
at all uh they finally sent you know mayor pete uh and it was a disaster but they would have never
00:32:09.080
done anything had president trump not shown up and it's really emblematic of of what's been going on
00:32:14.640
in this awakening over the past seven years this realization that america is great and we're losing
00:32:21.840
it and we're losing it unjustly because it's not the decisions that we've made we've worked hard we've
00:32:27.840
done everything we could we we just want a shot at the american dream but these so-called betters these
00:32:34.740
so-called fake phony elites these corrupt class of people they're the ones who are making all these
00:32:41.080
decisions to not the benefit of the american people or our country but to themselves and they're selling
00:32:47.140
us out and they're destroying us in the process i mean that awakening it's continuing to this day and
00:32:53.080
as more time goes on and as more corrupt they get the more people wake up to that fact and the
00:32:58.000
stronger our movement grows i think that's really what east palestine is about i'm so glad you guys are
00:33:03.840
going because these people can't be forgotten this is going to be years years the aftermath of this
00:33:09.720
and we have to have their back and president trump always will
00:33:12.780
the uh politico is a and the reason we push so many of the stories out is because we want uh our
00:33:20.220
audience to be insiders we want to get the information that the insiders are getting
00:33:23.940
today people should have to understand that these are because in these presidential campaigns both
00:33:30.200
the primaries and there's so much money involved and and and for the professional political class the
00:33:35.360
consultants the media types the advanced people i mean this is a business part of it is a business and
00:33:41.720
they're in the business you see today you have politico has a just a brutal assessment of where
00:33:48.280
this primary stands right now with president trump's dominance that really dovetails harry
00:33:52.460
enton now harry enton's the cnn polo that's the one we've been playing off aaron burnett
00:33:56.940
and you could tell she was shocked by the numbers harry enton is probably as straight a shooter as you can
00:34:03.420
get in left-wing media right and he's talking about trump's full dominance of the kind of the beer
00:34:08.860
the beer segment right the beer vertical um which is the working class the 50 000 in the non-college
00:34:16.100
educated the uh and remember when you talk about the wine the white wine class remember most of
00:34:22.000
their parents they come from the beer class so it's not like they they can they can easily move back
00:34:27.600
and be one back you've got then the guardian that hates trump that's saying he's living rent free right
00:34:33.680
now because this and you just saw bill bill bill maher is another anti-trump hater he says hey they got
00:34:39.540
confidence they have swagger but liz the one that is written by professionals for professionals this
00:34:48.120
nbc piece that says in the inner circle in in the the outer ring of the inner circle 16 uh people
00:34:56.980
associated with uh with the santas they are extremely nervous they're extremely nervous and i know some of
00:35:04.060
the biggest donors are really nervous that they saw effect this book tour is supposed to like
00:35:08.960
you know spring him into the lead not even close in fact he's going in reverse and there's a number
00:35:14.980
of reasons for that one is john says this this horrible uh you know poll tested focus grouped
00:35:21.520
worked on all the weekend statement he had on monday about the president's legal situation but also
00:35:27.600
the piers morgan thing was a disaster the ukraine original statements which tried to emulate trump
00:35:34.200
but didn't go there then he backed off it it's just not ready for prime time your assessment of these
00:35:38.720
three articles and what do they tell us about this race today liz harrington as we're getting ready for
00:35:43.920
this massive rally in waco texas well they tell us a lot and one thing that we were talking about before
00:35:50.880
this authenticity i mean there's a reason why president trump doesn't have to focus group everything
00:35:55.320
you know he says or puts out on truth social because he's lived it i mean he said my whole life
00:36:01.640
has been a fight and he has worked he's had to work and scrap for everything he has in this life and he's
00:36:08.360
been around working people his entire life so he gets it there's an understanding and that's why i think
00:36:15.380
he loves this country so much as well as he loves opportunity i mean there's no country like it and to make
00:36:21.640
it uh whatever you want i mean that is what he embodies the american dream these other people
00:36:27.100
they'll never get it they'll always have to focus group it because they haven't lived it and they
00:36:31.860
aren't uh true they aren't real and so i think that's his number one problem and you look for ron
00:36:38.880
de santis and because so you come in these critical points and not just in a campaign but really in our
00:36:45.080
nation's history okay if they go down this path which they clearly are telegraphing not just in new
00:36:50.320
york but going down the path in dc they're harassing our campaign with taxpayer funded sham investigations
00:36:58.520
in georgia everywhere else they're trying to arrest their number one political opponent if that happens
00:37:05.060
in the united states and that is a line in the sand that is a line that we if we cross there's never
00:37:10.580
going back and so when that issue comes up and you're silent and then before you finally say
00:37:19.300
something it's so obvious that you had a bunch of handlers telling you what to say and coaching you
00:37:25.620
and you look over to the side and you're trying to figure out the planted question in the audience
00:37:30.280
i mean i'm sorry no one's buying it and you just had your moment of real leaders when there's a choice
00:37:37.520
like that you just chose the other side and the people could see right through it so i think that is
00:37:42.940
destroying his campaign and all these people behind the scenes who thought that they could use
00:37:47.580
this other empty vessel to get rid of donald j trump well now they're having second thoughts now
00:37:53.760
they're going to think you know what's our plan b what's our plan c because you know they're going
00:37:57.500
to come up with them but the fact is no matter what they come up with it's astroturf and that is
00:38:03.780
the number one problem for ron desantis okay this book tour no one's clamoring for this book from ron
00:38:10.620
desantis okay it's funded by the murdochs fox news went to where he's from where he represented in
00:38:18.620
congress in florida to a diner and could not find a single person at the height of his book tour
00:38:23.920
couldn't find a single person who was defant desantis first they were all for trump even the person with
00:38:31.200
the desantis shirt i like trump i mean it's astroturf it's not the real thing and that's why movements
00:38:38.360
like that and once the sunlight shine on them you you just see there's nothing actually holding it
00:38:43.380
up it's not real that that will never happen to the make america great again movement because it's
00:38:49.000
all real everyone in it is real they believe in it president trump believes in it and we know how
00:38:53.420
important it is it's a time to save america and if you're not serious just get out of the way
00:38:58.780
we told you we would break the murdochs and uh in demand and force them to have coverage
00:39:05.160
president trump there's going to be a one hour i think on monday liz special sean hannity i think
00:39:10.320
he's going to mar-a-lago down to interview president trump one-on-one for an hour so
00:39:14.600
look the murdochs are all all about money and power they do not care about the united states of america
00:39:20.100
they do not care about maga they don't care about any of in fact they're part of the uniparty elite
00:39:24.800
they just give you the other side uh they they suck you in with all the shiny toys they never want to
00:39:29.920
get to the to the main event to the thing itself they are now they they're they're smart enough to
00:39:35.780
be able to understand the numbers and they understand this thing shifting rapidly it was
00:39:40.360
after my cspac speech and after de sancis's this phony press thing on monday where he didn't defend
00:39:47.160
come in and defend the president because you got to do it right now you must do it even if you hate
00:39:51.300
trump you've got to come in and defend him for what they're trying to do and i think we're trying
00:39:55.380
to get professor alan dershowitz on just wanted to talk about that to talk about get trump um
00:40:00.540
and and now the murdochs are going to now for not covering him and for being the de santis uh you
00:40:06.460
know the murdoch de santis network non-stop non-stop they were on the book tour kill me when he went
00:40:12.240
around that when he went around that restaurant and didn't get one taker that's that's that's
00:40:16.960
called uh that's called the face plant they understand that's where they're giving him an hour
00:40:21.400
i think with shauna i think it's monday night uh so uh liz uh fantastic work you're absolutely
00:40:27.860
correct it's about authenticity it's about fight and it's about competitive heart uh liz harrington
00:40:33.060
how do people uh track you your your great uh social media and everything you're putting up how
00:40:38.120
do people get to you go to truth social at real liz usa and and go check out what president trump's
00:40:44.700
been truthing out they've been absolute gems lately so check it all out on truth
00:40:49.340
thank you very much ma'am okay um we're gonna go to break we're gonna take we're gonna get uh we
00:40:56.160
got another block to go we're trying to get professor dershowitz up uh we're trying to we
00:41:00.660
got cynthia hughes is going to join us she's been down in uh in west palm beach with the president
00:41:05.920
we're gonna get to her we got mike lindale we got a lot to go through we're gonna talk a lot about
00:41:09.640
capital markets and economics uh right now i got a chart up on getter that's we got to go to getter
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maybe we can pull it it shows you the chinese communist party is they're they're also dumping
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u.s treasuries they're dumping the u.s treasuries they're now under a trillion dollars i think they're
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at 800 billion dollars held i think their peak was 1.3 they're dumping that to buy gold right now you
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okay welcome back professor alan dershowitz joins us from harvard um he's got this new book get trump
00:43:01.040
i'm gonna get to the book in a second and particularly president trump has put up on true social is
00:43:05.200
promoting it professor um you've dedicated your life to the law and to the teaching of the law to the
00:43:13.100
constitution what we have here what shocks me is that the institutions that are this rabid foaming at
00:43:22.800
the mouth to actually get trump it's much deeper than just president trump you have the new york uh
00:43:28.520
district attorney which is a used to be a revered institution the southern district in new york you've
00:43:33.020
got uh the federal court in in washington dc you you have these institutions of people who went to the
00:43:40.060
best law schools who worked at the best law firms the white shoe law firms who have worked you know as
00:43:46.980
prosecutors or da's at these revered institutions and it is now like a banana republic how did that
00:43:54.100
happen and how deep and serious is this problem for a nation even besides president trump sir look i
00:44:01.640
never would have written the book get trump if it was just about president trump i've written books about
00:44:06.440
him before this is about the corrosive effect of get trump and similar approaches on the rule of law
00:44:14.100
and it's very very serious judges are afraid now to do anything that will be seen as enabling trump
00:44:22.500
or helping trump they know they'll be treated the way i was treated uh totally dismissed by friends and
00:44:27.740
family on the left just because i defended him on the floor of the senate jurors would be afraid to
00:44:33.220
render a verdict in favor of trump for fear that they would be ostracized in their community an atmosphere
00:44:39.220
of fear of fear and hatred has been created so that if anybody dares dares to do anything that's perceived
00:44:47.480
as not only pro-trump but pro-constitution they are uh completely completely canceled and you don't
00:44:56.700
expect people necessarily to uh take the kinds of risks look i have a thick skin but my wife has been
00:45:03.400
attacked my family has been attacked um my wife went to a gym and a woman walked in and said that's
00:45:09.960
alan dershowitz's wife he defended trump i can't be in the same room with him uh caroline kennedy the
00:45:14.920
daughter of president kennedy was seated next to me at a uh dinner party and she said if i knew you had
00:45:20.340
been invited i would never have come that's the kind of treatment people can expect if they try to apply
00:45:26.600
the rule of law and so the hard left has been successful in terrorizing centrist people good
00:45:33.720
judges good prosecutors good jurors interfering for their own safety and their children's safety and
00:45:40.100
their integrity and their reputations if they do anything anything that's perceived as a pro-trump or
00:45:46.680
pro-constitution on behalf of trump that's how serious this question is now i'm gonna go back you're
00:45:54.440
saying judges drill down on there for a second it's bad enough these prosecutors you you actually
00:45:59.740
believe that judges have been intimidated by the left here and in either looking the other way or
00:46:06.520
not rendering the types of judgments that they would normally render sir absolutely i have no doubt about
00:46:12.240
that i know judges i taught many of the judges who are now sitting on the federal and state benches
00:46:18.560
they are terrified of not being promoted of being ostracized anybody who's perceived of as having
00:46:25.920
enabled or done anything to support trump's return to the presidency their career is over their career
00:46:33.140
is ruined they will be canceled in every possible way and and of course it affects judges it particularly
00:46:40.060
affects elected judges like in new york but it also affects appointed judges every district court judge
00:46:45.600
wants to be a court of appeals judge every court of appeals judge wants to be a supreme court justice
00:46:49.840
can you imagine any judge rendering a decision in favor of trump getting promoted by this administration
00:46:56.340
or in the city of new york in manhattan or new york state or washington dc it's unthinkable and everybody
00:47:03.780
knows it and judges are human beings judges have to go home to their wives i know when i defended trump
00:47:09.820
i had to go home to my wife and my family and my friends and and they were not on my side uh they
00:47:16.700
said you know all right you believe in the constitution we understand that but can't you make an exception
00:47:20.980
for trump and i said no i won't make an exception for trump and it's had a big impact on my life
00:47:27.400
and people know that and people have told me they don't want to be dershowitz they don't want to have
00:47:33.080
happen to them what happened to me and of course this affects judges of course it affects jurors of course
00:47:39.020
it affects prosecutors it affects everybody in the legal system it affects law students it affects law
00:47:45.200
deans it affects literally everybody nobody wants to be treated that way i've been canceled by
00:47:51.420
institutions that had me speak for years and years and years and years they don't want anybody who had
00:47:58.000
any connection with trump whether in representation or defending his rights and defending the constitutional
00:48:03.320
rights so this is a kind of new mccarthyism that has permeated our society and it's going to only get
00:48:11.200
worse not better let's go back uh i want to ask about the moment you made the decision to defend
00:48:18.940
president trump in the in the first impeachment when you weighed and measured it why against all the
00:48:24.200
pressure you knew you were going to get from all your associations friends family institutions
00:48:28.920
why did you make that decision because my life would have otherwise been hypocritical i defended nazis
00:48:35.720
i defended communists i defended oj simpson i defended jeffrey epstein and if i wouldn't defend trump
00:48:42.520
people would say oh my god you just select and pick no no i defend the constitution on behalf of
00:48:48.360
everybody now i'm not making comparisons between trump and some of these other people i'm just saying
00:48:53.500
that if i accepted my wife's advice my family's advice my children advice and did not defend trump
00:49:01.660
i couldn't live with myself i couldn't say that i've lived a life of principle in which i always put
00:49:07.740
the constitution before politics or before personal interests so i had to do it people ask me if i regret
00:49:13.580
it well i regret the consequences particularly to my to my children um you know i have a member of my
00:49:20.460
family who was thinking about changing her name because she was so proud of the name dershowitz i
00:49:26.300
had done so much good and people loved me for defending some people that they like but once i defended trump
00:49:33.100
she was thinking about changing her name because she was getting terrible pushback from people in her
00:49:38.700
profession and everywhere else and so nobody wants to bear those costs and so today the social pressures
00:49:46.540
have become weapons in the war against the constitution and people insist on putting and i
00:49:53.580
understand it their personal interests over the interests of the constitution i won't do that
00:49:59.820
i have suffered severe consequences but i'm going to continue to do that but for my family can you hang
00:50:08.700
off just for can you hang on for just 90 seconds we're gonna take a 90 second break we'll return with
00:50:12.700
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