Bannon's War Room - April 05, 2023


Episode 2638： It Is Time For Subpoenas; American Bolshevism


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Stephen K. Bannon and Alex Blumberg react to the latest indictments against Donald Trump and others in the Russia investigation by the New York City attorney general's office. They discuss what they think of the indictments and what they could mean for the future of the investigation.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.120 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.340 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.600 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.520 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.940 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.700 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:23.880 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.300 MAGA media.
00:00:28.200 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.080 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.840 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.160 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.360 And I never thought anything like this could happen in America.
00:00:57.660 I never thought it could happen.
00:00:59.900 The only crime that I have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it.
00:01:07.220 He is making remarks tonight from his home in Florida.
00:01:14.860 As far as we can tell and what we were prepared for here is that this is basically a campaign speech
00:01:19.000 in which he is repeating his same lies and allegations against his perceived enemies.
00:01:23.120 It is just getting started.
00:01:24.800 So far, he's just giving his normal list of grievances.
00:01:27.040 We don't consider that necessarily newsworthy.
00:01:29.260 And there's a cost to us as a news organization of knowingly broadcasting untrue things.
00:01:33.920 So our deal with you is that we will monitor these remarks.
00:01:37.160 If he does say anything newsworthy, we will turn them around and report on that right away.
00:01:41.180 But for now, just know that it's happening and we're not taking it.
00:01:44.400 For you, one big picture, what do you think of the indictment?
00:01:47.320 Well, speaking as someone who very strongly does not want Donald Trump to get the Republican presidential nomination,
00:01:53.140 I'm extraordinarily distressed by this document.
00:01:55.680 I think this is even weaker than I feared it would be.
00:01:58.120 And I think it's easily subject to being dismissed or a quick acquittal for Trump.
00:02:05.460 Just speaking, going back to the days when I represented Jim Buckley and Gene McCarthy
00:02:09.580 and the constitutional challenge to the underlying federal statute here passed in 1974,
00:02:15.580 I can say there is no basis in the statutory language to say that Trump's behavior forms either a contribution
00:02:22.380 or an expenditure under federal law, the two key definitions at issue here.
00:02:28.120 If it did, it would mean that every single expenditure a candidate made could be taken to have something to do with this campaign.
00:02:35.920 Do I buy a $1 comb to comb my hair or a $10 comb to comb my hair?
00:02:41.660 If you can construe the statute to cover this behavior, then I think it violates the First Amendment
00:02:47.320 because you're deeply into territory that makes this statute absolutely, a federal statute, too vague for enforcement.
00:02:55.300 And as what I understood the district attorney to say, that he thinks there's a New York election law involved here,
00:03:02.220 all I can say is the Federal Election Campaign Act absolutely preempts any state or local law to the contrary.
00:03:09.040 How could it be otherwise?
00:03:10.160 You've got one law governing corporate finance in a presidential election at the federal level.
00:03:14.820 You're going to have 50 state laws interfering with it.
00:03:17.440 So he's just wrong on the applicability of the New York statute.
00:03:20.500 Alvin Bragg said that there is more evidence.
00:03:24.340 He didn't have to share exactly what that was.
00:03:27.420 But my question to you is, no one is saying Trump didn't do this.
00:03:33.380 I mean, I don't even hear Trump saying that.
00:03:35.000 So, again, the public politically desensitized to just how unseemly it might be for a president to pay off a porn star in order to influence the election
00:03:48.260 or keep his wife from finding out about it, who knows what his intent was.
00:03:52.800 But could there be a possibility of a secondary indictment?
00:03:56.760 Or what are the potentials that could play out here if a crime indeed was committed?
00:04:02.460 Well, I mean, he is very much capable of talking himself into more trouble.
00:04:09.320 I mean, we've seen this from the very beginning of his presidential career,
00:04:15.480 when he basically took an investigation about whether or not the Russians tried to interfere with the 2016 election
00:04:23.800 and made that investigation essentially all about him and his desire and attempts to obstruct that investigation.
00:04:32.700 I mean, remember there was a several hundred page report issued by special counsel Robert Mueller.
00:04:38.860 And one half of it was devoted to Trump's efforts to derail the investigation.
00:04:43.100 He is perfectly capable of committing crimes, felonies, to avoid nothing,
00:04:51.240 which was probably what he had done before he started trying to obstruct the Mueller investigation.
00:04:56.960 He's certainly probably willing to try to commit crimes to avoid being convicted of a misdemeanor.
00:05:06.360 It's just that he just doesn't know when to stop.
00:05:09.440 Yeah, and speaking of not knowing when to stop John Heilman, I thought it was fascinating.
00:05:14.680 Yesterday, every Democrat, and again, it will get mad at me.
00:05:18.420 I'm good with it.
00:05:20.060 Every Democrat I talked to, every lawyer, every DA, I was making calls throughout the afternoon.
00:05:27.000 They were all disappointed by Brexit, by the actual indictment itself.
00:05:32.780 They were all disappointed by the charging papers and what we're saying so.
00:05:37.600 Boy, this is...
00:05:38.320 So, you know, advantage, Trump.
00:05:43.400 Disadvantage, like DeSantis and the entire Republican field.
00:05:47.420 If Donald Trump was sane, if he were rational, he would have said,
00:05:54.600 I'm going to go to bed with the win.
00:05:58.020 But as we all know, Donald Trump can't keep his mouth shut.
00:06:04.080 He goes out.
00:06:06.080 I will just say he messes the bed in a stupendous way last night.
00:06:12.620 He could have used that speech to say, yeah, you know what?
00:06:16.260 They treated me bad.
00:06:17.660 They did this, that, the other.
00:06:19.120 Just like what happens to you when they treat you bad doing A, B, C.
00:06:23.800 The system's rigged again.
00:06:25.560 Instead, it was all these personal grievances.
00:06:30.160 He went all over the place, scattershot.
00:06:33.400 And by the end of the speech, Ron DeSantis had to be feeling great, going, well, he's always going to be him.
00:06:43.240 Because by the end, you're like, yeah, that guy, that guy will never be president again.
00:06:48.440 He took this advantage that a lot of people thought he had and completely blew it with that crazy display last night at Mar-a-Lago.
00:06:58.400 Yeah, I don't know, Joe, whether he completely blew it in the sense that all of the things we heard last night from him have been things that we've heard before.
00:07:05.240 And they're all things that have, for whatever, if you believe that Trump's power resides in his ability to continue to have the loyalty of that, of the MAGA base, and that that's a large enough chunk of the party to make him the front runner, the favorite, maybe ultimately the nominee of the party.
00:07:25.080 I'm not sure he did anything to alienate any of those voters last night.
00:07:27.980 I do think if you're someone running against Trump and you want to, and you're making a case to the other part of the party, which is to say, you know, to the establishment part of the party, the never Trumpers, the maybe Trumpers, the anybody who's looking for a reason to leave Trump, you got an object lesson of like, this is what you're going to get, folks.
00:07:46.500 If we stick with Donald Trump, you're going to get this, even the day that the judge told him to watch it, to simmer down, to not say these inflammatory things, to not say these, to attack this DA, to not attack the courts, to not attack the justice system.
00:08:03.080 You know, don't go, don't go down the path you've been on, admonished him in the court and told him that there might be consequences.
00:08:09.540 He went out and did exactly the same thing.
00:08:10.880 And so if I'm Ron DeSantis and I'm trying to appeal to the car robes of the world, the car robe donors of the world, the club for growth people, all those people, you have this a very strong thing.
00:08:20.500 This guy is not never going to learn.
00:08:22.060 But most people, I think, know that with all of this being said and with a very dark cloud over our beloved country, I have no doubt, nevertheless, that we will make America great again.
00:08:40.880 Thank you very much.
00:08:42.380 God bless you and God bless America.
00:08:45.200 Thank you very much, everybody.
00:08:46.500 Thank you.
00:08:47.140 It's a very bad look to attack the family.
00:08:49.860 But he said these, he just mentioned that they are attacking, Alvin Bragg's attacking him.
00:08:54.280 His wife posted something negative about him and the daughter works for Democrats.
00:08:59.020 So incredibly, we are now a failing nation.
00:09:03.120 We are a nation in decline.
00:09:05.300 And now these radical left lunatics want to interfere with our elections by using law enforcement.
00:09:13.600 We can't let that happen.
00:09:17.280 It is, though, to your point from last night, it's like this is appalling.
00:09:29.600 When you sit there and think, you don't have this behavior, just I've prosecuted mob cases.
00:09:35.100 You do not have this behavior from a mob boss.
00:09:38.440 There is a rule in organized crime.
00:09:40.340 You do not do this with respect to prosecutors.
00:09:43.120 You don't do this with respect to the judge.
00:09:45.020 You certainly don't go after their families.
00:09:47.500 There's bad business to do that.
00:09:49.980 And so this is really unbelievable that we're talking about somebody who was the former president of the United States.
00:09:56.580 He led the Justice Department.
00:09:59.780 And you're seeing this kind of, I mean, it's really just so despicable to think that you would do that.
00:10:06.480 It's just so despicable.
00:10:07.820 It's just so despicable.
00:10:10.780 Andrew Weissman in a tizzy clutching his pearls right there as the Viking chief comes in and throws down hard on what is a completely moronic, idiotic group of charges.
00:10:25.580 And we saw the two-digit midget IQ. 1.00
00:10:30.180 You saw everything about Alvin Bragg you need to see yesterday when he ran with the flop sweat coming down.
00:10:35.320 He runs off the stage, came and answered a basic question.
00:10:38.380 John Bolton showed you right there in the open why he can't answer.
00:10:40.860 He doesn't understand the law.
00:10:42.100 Cash Patel, you've been a prosecutor.
00:10:45.640 You were the chief counsel over the Intel Committee.
00:10:48.380 Give me your assessment of Bragg and what this fiasco is.
00:10:52.220 And then President Trump, I thought yesterday, was like a Viking, right?
00:10:55.840 People said, oh, he looked, you know, he gave him the bad face, as he should, Cash Patel. 1.00
00:11:01.160 It's great to be with you.
00:11:02.220 And look, I'm glad Donald Trump is capitalizing on the thing that strikes at the heart of Americans, and that is a two-tier system of justice.
00:11:09.820 I'm sorry that Donald Trump has to be the figure to go through this, but he's the only one that can lead us through it and defeat it.
00:11:15.640 We saw it in Russiagate.
00:11:16.920 We saw it in Ukraine, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2. 0.60
00:11:19.540 We saw it on January 6th.
00:11:20.860 We're seeing it in the classified documents case.
00:11:22.880 And now we're seeing it at the state court level in New York City, the capital of the world.
00:11:27.340 And the only way to educate the world on this is to have a warrior like Donald Trump lead the charge on a two-tier system of justice.
00:11:34.140 And that's what Alvin Bragg has corruptly put front and center for all to see.
00:11:39.000 Because this indictment, Steve, you can have all the legal beagles you want to talk on it, but here's a novel concept.
00:11:43.960 I don't want this case to end tomorrow.
00:11:45.460 I don't want it to end next week.
00:11:46.620 I want Donald Trump and company to bleed Alvin Bragg dry over the next two years of discovery so we can educate the American public on the fraud and corruption that is the New York State judicial system and the DOJ and FBI that helped fund this prosecution.
00:12:02.200 I want every member of Congress, like I called on last night, where are the subpoenas?
00:12:06.680 Alvin Bragg has already said he used federal funds to investigate and prosecute Donald Trump in a state court.
00:12:12.920 Why hasn't the Judiciary Committee and Oversight Committees issued subpoena after subpoenas?
00:12:17.280 Do they forget what the January 6th committee did to us?
00:12:20.700 There is a two-tier system of justice, not just in the executive and judicial branches, but in the legislative branches, and I'm calling on Congress to act and put the documents out, the receipts, as Steve Bannon always says, so the American people can read them.
00:12:34.240 It is not a right-wing conspiracy.
00:12:36.220 The two-tier system of justice is here, and we have to destroy it.
00:12:41.520 Cash, this is what I said yesterday on the show, on the 6 o'clock show.
00:12:45.440 They should just forget Easter recess.
00:12:48.040 Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ wouldn't have a problem of people coming back and going to work to get this sorted.
00:12:53.620 There should be committee hearings tomorrow.
00:12:54.900 There should be subpoenas flying tomorrow.
00:12:56.940 This should all be happening immediately.
00:12:58.520 People should not be taking time off.
00:13:00.520 This is a crisis.
00:13:01.100 It showed you yesterday we have two crises that popped up.
00:13:03.560 One we knew was coming from Manhattan.
00:13:05.560 The other, we'll get into the second hour, is this debacle in Wisconsin and what that means for President Trump.
00:13:11.100 Because President Trump's the nominee now.
00:13:12.500 This is all about the general.
00:13:14.200 Cash, why is there a lack of action?
00:13:16.740 You've got good people.
00:13:17.780 You've got Jordan.
00:13:18.460 You've got these guys.
00:13:19.160 They know what the issues are.
00:13:20.600 What is holding people back?
00:13:23.320 I wish I knew the answer to that because, as you know, like you said, they're good people.
00:13:27.100 They're great people.
00:13:28.300 But I want to see the laundry list of Republicans that have come out and said glorifying things about Donald Trump as they should, who are members of Congress.
00:13:36.440 Yet when they go to the halls of Congress, they aren't the ones demanding the subpoenas be sent out.
00:13:41.900 Whether you're a committee man or woman, whether you're a chairperson or not, you as a member of Congress have the ability to go to the Speaker of the House and demand publicly in front of the microphones in the world, I want subpoenas.
00:13:53.860 I haven't seen one Republican member of Congress doing that.
00:13:57.920 And I'm the guy who ran the Russiagate investigation, and I understand the patience you need.
00:14:02.660 But that patience has expired.
00:14:04.740 They have just fraudulently charged the next and former commander-in-chief.
00:14:08.360 And these Republicans, all they want to do is go down to Mar-a-Lago and be a part of the party.
00:14:12.800 You represent us in Washington, D.C., the people.
00:14:15.960 You owe us the receipts.
00:14:17.320 And if you don't know how to do it, then give me a call and I'll show you.
00:14:20.440 I think the reason you haven't seen it is because the Republican caucus writ large doesn't have the temerity to go down the subpoena line like the Jan 6 committee did and hold people accountable for contempt of Congress.
00:14:37.180 OK, Cash, hang on right there.
00:14:39.340 We're going to hold you through the break.
00:14:40.440 We're going to get into the details of what you're demanding that happen, the action that has to happen.
00:14:44.740 We've got Jeffrey Clark here.
00:14:45.900 We're going to have Alan Dershowitz in the second hour.
00:14:49.440 We're going to get into the debacle in polling and the debacle in Wisconsin.
00:14:53.640 Caroline Wren is going to join us all next in the war room.
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00:16:32.080 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:34.460 Welcome back.
00:16:39.840 Anything – by the way, we do these cold opens.
00:16:42.180 Obviously, we're trying to show you what the opposition is saying, not just to mess with you but to understand how they're driving the narrative.
00:16:48.720 Anything that Andrew Weissman, when he's clutching his pearls, anything Andrew Weissman and Joe Scarborough and those people don't like, you understand you're doing the right thing.
00:16:59.340 You see how they frame it, and then you understand how you're doing the right thing.
00:17:03.020 Cash Patel, yesterday was – your book's titled Government Gangsters.
00:17:06.900 Yesterday was a full government gangster flex by the Manhattan DA and in the state of New York.
00:17:17.280 Just outrageous.
00:17:18.560 I mean, Alvin Bragg didn't even understand the law.
00:17:20.820 Jeff Clark, I meant to describe that.
00:17:22.580 But I want to be very specific.
00:17:25.060 What are you actually calling for?
00:17:26.780 What is the action – because we'll get people lined up on this.
00:17:29.800 What are the actions that you're demanding that you believe needs to be done today?
00:17:36.240 Yeah.
00:17:36.500 So from a congressional standpoint, basic constitutional oversight lies with the committees of jurisdiction in Congress.
00:17:42.340 And you have to outline two things, just like we did when I ran Russiagate.
00:17:45.940 One, what documents and evidence do you need collected?
00:17:48.640 And two, what witnesses are going to help you address and illuminate that?
00:17:52.440 So stepping back, we saw Alvin Bragg come out and say how much of a government gangster he is, as you decided – as you said.
00:17:59.580 But what we now know is that he utilized federal funds to investigate Donald Trump.
00:18:05.220 So now we must subpoena from Congress every media institution Alvin Bragg talked to.
00:18:11.060 We must investigate the felony of leaking grand jury investigative materials to the media and public.
00:18:17.420 That's a felony.
00:18:18.260 Up to Congress.
00:18:19.440 We must subpoena all of his staff and all of their records.
00:18:22.800 We must also follow the money, as I always say.
00:18:25.320 We got to figure out where exactly the federal funds were spent and why is it that federal funds are being utilized to help rig and interfere with yet another presidential election?
00:18:38.600 Who gave the OK in the United States government – speaking of government gangsters – to authorize American taxpayer dollars to falsely indict a president of the United States based on no actual legal theory whatsoever?
00:18:51.200 These subpoenas have to go out.
00:18:52.880 Then the Alvin Braggs of the world and the investigators must be put front and center under oath for the American public to see after the documents have come in to say this is where the money came from.
00:19:04.680 This is where we spent it.
00:19:06.080 This is where the leaks went, the felony leaks.
00:19:09.080 This is where all of the witnesses that we talked to hid exculpatory evidence that we knew about, and these were the misrepresentations we made to the grand jury and the judge and the world.
00:19:20.900 And the only way to do that is not cheap rhetoric but through the subpoenaing of documentation by committees of jurisdiction now that there is a jurisdictional hook.
00:19:30.400 Nobody in Congress can now say, oh, it's a state matter.
00:19:33.160 There's nothing to see here.
00:19:34.420 Wrong.
00:19:34.960 Alvin Bragg is also putting the money aside saying that the conspiracy that – even though there isn't one, but he's tying the conspiracy to a federal election matter.
00:19:44.900 The false narrative that he wants out there is that Donald Trump did this crime to interfere with the 2016 election.
00:19:51.820 OK, let's see the goods.
00:19:53.720 He's talking about the United States of America at a federal level.
00:19:56.580 The United States Congress must send out these subpoenas to get this information out.
00:20:00.300 This is – your theory of the case here, and this is why Cash is the man, is we're going to put them on trial for two years.
00:20:09.420 Trump and his lawyers have got to bleed these guys out, and we're going to put them on trial for two years.
00:20:13.620 Is that basically – and we're going to use Congress to do this and go on offense?
00:20:17.000 Yes, sir, exactly right.
00:20:19.360 Look, it's not going to happen overnight, and people probably already want, oh, a quick dismissal.
00:20:23.620 No, remember, Alvin Bragg is the one who's interfering with the United States election process.
00:20:28.580 So let's show the world that we are not right-wing conspirators.
00:20:32.060 Let's utilize the subpoena process in Congress that we have to show them the receipts, to show them that taxpayer dollars, your money, was utilized to stand up a fraudulent prosecution.
00:20:41.920 And your neighbor and your brother and your parents and your siblings can be next, because if they can do it at the state level, they can do it at any level.
00:20:48.400 And, oh, by the way, it doesn't just have to be Congress.
00:20:51.060 Steve, where are the local district attorneys that are Republicans and the state attorney generals that are Republicans?
00:20:56.980 Where are their subpoenas and grand juries?
00:20:59.100 Why haven't they been stood up to analyze a single issue of legality as it relates to Alvin Bragg's prosecution and, oh, say, Jeffrey Epstein and a zillion other things we talk about?
00:21:10.000 Why aren't these district attorneys and state agencies being called out by name?
00:21:13.760 You can stand up a grand jury in any jurisdiction and investigate almost anything you want once you tie it to your home base.
00:21:20.920 And if they don't know how to do that, I'll tell them.
00:21:22.900 But those people are as much on the hook as Congress is for their lack of actions today.
00:21:29.780 Cash, how do people get to you?
00:21:31.420 What's the coordinates?
00:21:32.020 And how do people get to the appropriately titled government gangsters that's still going through the redaction process with the administrative state?
00:21:40.620 I will announce today we are suing the government, the DOD and the government, for withholding my manuscript, Government Gangsters.
00:21:47.700 Go to governmentgangsters.com.
00:21:49.740 I'm taking them to federal court.
00:21:51.500 Everything I'm telling you and the roadmap and how we fix this government.
00:21:54.880 And by the way, not just me, Donald Trump said it's how we win back the White House in 2024.
00:21:59.540 Governmentgangsters.com.
00:22:00.760 And I'm on Truth Social at Cash, at K-A-S-H, at K-A-S-H.
00:22:06.400 Cash, just one more time.
00:22:08.140 And today you're announcing here you're initiating a lawsuit about the book because they're not slow walking it.
00:22:15.320 They buried the book, right?
00:22:16.600 You're suing them to break it free?
00:22:19.100 So I'm taking them to federal court.
00:22:20.520 I'm spending more of my money just to get more information to the American public.
00:22:24.300 And nobody out there is fighting harder to get you the truth about these government gangsters from Alvin Bragg on down.
00:22:30.840 And by the way, I call Alvin Bragg.
00:22:32.840 Steve is the new Adam Schiff at the New York State level for government gangsters.
00:22:37.820 He is as worse, if not worse.
00:22:40.040 Check out the book, governmentgangsters.com.
00:22:41.920 I'm doing personal autographs in it.
00:22:43.740 And, yes, I'm taking them to federal court.
00:22:45.580 Shifty Shift, as bad as Shifty Shift is and a liar, right?
00:22:52.860 And he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
00:22:54.740 He is ten orders of magnitude sharper.
00:22:57.180 That press conference yesterday with Bragg, when the liberal reporters that follow the legal aspects of everything in New York, and, of course, you had, what, Garrick Hoke at MSNBC or NBC News, they asked basic questions because they're flipping through this thing.
00:23:14.440 He couldn't answer a question.
00:23:16.260 He could not answer one question in that regard, not one.
00:23:20.060 I mean, the flop sweat was coming down, then he jumps off the stage.
00:23:23.200 The difference is he doesn't really – do you think he really understands the law here?
00:23:27.320 He's got, what, Matt Colangelo and these guys in back of him that have been second deed from the Justice Department, sir?
00:23:33.840 He has no idea what the law is.
00:23:35.900 He's just knowing – he knew what he wanted the outcome to be, an indictment of Donald Trump.
00:23:40.460 And he brought in anyone who could assist and facilitate that process, like this guy Colangelo.
00:23:46.100 Oh, and by the way, let's subpoena him.
00:23:48.580 Let's subpoena the communications between Bragg and Colangelo and anyone else in the private and public sector he used to beef up this fraudulent indictment.
00:23:56.580 That's just another thing this Congress can do.
00:23:59.180 Alvin Bragg doesn't have the brains to take it on, but he wants all the glory and the credit, and it's going to come crashing down on him when we shred him with the truth.
00:24:06.960 But that's if the district attorneys, state AGs, and Congress act for the American people because that's the only place that we have to get our truth out.
00:24:16.980 In your call to action here, in your action plan, when you say committees of jurisdiction, am I confused?
00:24:26.220 It's the House Judiciary Committee.
00:24:28.360 It's Jim Jordan and weaponization of government to the subcommittee.
00:24:31.820 Is that Kash Patel's belief is where the center of gravity should be in this investigation?
00:24:37.820 It's a chunk of it, but it's more than that.
00:24:39.820 It's not just that.
00:24:40.620 It's oversight and government reform, OGR.
00:24:42.920 It's also if taxpayer dollars was utilized, it's ways and means.
00:24:46.780 And if federal intelligence and law enforcement was utilized, then it's intel.
00:24:50.620 There's so many committees and subcommittees of jurisdiction.
00:24:53.460 We just need one chairman or woman to come forward and say, this is what I'm doing for the American people.
00:24:59.040 It can happen in a number of places, and I know a lot of those folks have a lot going on.
00:25:03.460 And if they want to spread it out, that's fine.
00:25:05.080 Got the jurisdictional hook.
00:25:06.640 I just need somebody to step up to the plate and stop sending out tweets and truths and start sending out subpoenas.
00:25:13.300 Yeah, this is a priority.
00:25:14.680 Okay, Cash, we'll look to see that federal lawsuit and get you back on here. 0.85
00:25:18.200 Thank you, sir.
00:25:18.680 We can't bury that book.
00:25:19.600 It's too important.
00:25:20.440 Thank you, sir.
00:25:21.000 Thank you, Cash Patel.
00:25:25.040 Hopefully head of DNI at least or secretary of defense in the second term.
00:25:28.700 I want to play the Bolton and then bring in Jeff Clark.
00:25:31.260 We had a technical problem.
00:25:32.560 We got Jeff Clark back.
00:25:33.320 Let's play the Bolton clip and get Jeff up.
00:25:35.440 For you, one big picture, what do you think of the indictment?
00:25:38.260 Well, speaking of someone who very strongly does not want Donald Trump to get the Republican presidential nomination,
00:25:44.120 I'm extraordinarily distressed by this document.
00:25:46.620 I think this is even weaker than I feared it would be.
00:25:49.100 And I think it's easily subject to being dismissed or a quick acquittal for Trump.
00:25:56.420 Just speaking, going back to the days when I represented Jim Buckley and Gene McCarthy
00:26:00.540 and the constitutional challenge to the underlying federal statute here passed in 1974,
00:26:06.540 I can say there is no basis in the statutory language to say that Trump's behavior forms either a contribution
00:26:13.440 or an expenditure under federal law, the two key definitions at issue here.
00:26:19.260 If it did, it would mean that every single expenditure a candidate made could be taken to have something to do with this campaign.
00:26:26.880 Do I buy a $1 comb to comb my hair or $10 comb to comb my hair?
00:26:31.180 If you can construe the statute to cover this behavior, then I think it violates the First Amendment
00:26:38.280 because you're deeply into territory that makes this statute absolutely, a federal statute, too vague for enforcement.
00:26:46.820 And as what I understood the district attorney to say that he thinks there's a New York election law involved here,
00:26:53.180 all I can say is the Federal Election Campaign Act absolutely preempts any state or local law to the contrary.
00:26:59.540 How could it be otherwise?
00:27:01.140 You've got one law governing corporate finance in a presidential election at the federal level.
00:27:05.740 You're going to have 50 state laws interfering with it.
00:27:08.340 So he's just wrong on the applicability of the New York statute.
00:27:13.040 Jeff, I've got about a minute here.
00:27:14.400 We'll hold you through the break.
00:27:15.340 Dershowitz is coming up next segment also.
00:27:17.960 Explain what Bolton just told us.
00:27:22.000 So what he's talking about is preemption by federal law over state law.
00:27:29.300 And that if you had a chaotic system of, you know, 50 states could be applying their law to a federal election,
00:27:37.160 namely the 2016 presidential election, then, you know, that could create a situation in which you have a whole bunch of conflicts.
00:27:46.500 And that's why you have preemption doctrine under the federal supremacy clause to block that out.
00:27:52.460 So that's that's, you know, the argument I heard him present there.
00:27:56.880 And sorry, I've been having technical difficulties.
00:27:59.540 Yeah.
00:28:00.480 Don't just hang on.
00:28:01.820 We're taking a short break.
00:28:02.860 We've got Jeff Clark.
00:28:03.940 Jeff Clark's also got a lot more insight into actually what's happening here.
00:28:09.780 OK, we're going to have Alan Dershowitz on here.
00:28:12.460 I believe that President Trump wrapped up the primary yesterday.
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00:28:19.480 If we can get over the problems in places like Wisconsin.
00:28:23.160 And trust me, that is a deep chasm, a very deep chasm.
00:28:26.780 We're going to get into all of it in the war room.
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00:31:49.480 Professor Dursher, we just had Cash Patel on.
00:31:51.380 He's got a book, Government Gangsters, that the government won't release.
00:31:54.460 They won't approve it.
00:31:55.900 Aptly titled yesterday, yours, Get Trump.
00:31:58.820 I don't think it hit a lot of Americans who have not been following this until yesterday that this is all about getting Trump.
00:32:05.880 Give us your assessment and observations now that you've had a chance to review not simply the indictment and the other information, but Alvin Bragg's disastrous press conference, sir – and I say this.
00:32:18.020 He's a graduate of Harvard Law School, I believe, or supposed to be a graduate.
00:32:21.520 It was pathetic.
00:32:23.040 Professor Dursherwitz.
00:32:24.020 Well, first of all, you mentioned the previous book, The Government Wouldn't Allow to Be Published.
00:32:28.540 We have to really worry about government and also private censorship.
00:32:32.820 My book, Get Trump, is not available, is not available in independent bookstores.
00:32:38.680 It's a bestseller on Amazon, but you cannot get it in an independent bookstore because they're determined not to make available a book like Get Trump with a title like Get Trump.
00:32:49.340 But, you know, I read the indictment yesterday and –
00:32:53.300 But hang on, Professor Dursherwitz, our audience craves inside baseball.
00:32:57.960 The reason independent bookstores won't – the New York Times depends on independent bookstores.
00:33:03.620 They overweight independent bookstores.
00:33:05.960 For the New York Times bestseller list, they cannot possibly have Professor Dursherwitz's book as the number one bestseller in the country with the title Get Trump.
00:33:14.320 They will not allow that to happen.
00:33:16.660 That is what they're trying to do here.
00:33:17.940 They purposely go out of the way to make sure that is cancel culture at a very deep and systemic level, is it not, sir?
00:33:26.140 Yes.
00:33:26.760 The New York Times bestseller list, which I've been on nine times.
00:33:30.520 I had the New York Times number one bestseller before I defended Trump, a book named Chutzpah.
00:33:37.580 And I used to be the leading op-ed writer among lawyers for the New York Times.
00:33:42.460 But once I defended Trump, I was canceled by the New York Times.
00:33:45.900 Okay, you can cancel me in your op-ed pages.
00:33:48.660 But when the public reads bestseller lists, they expect to see the most books that have been sold.
00:33:54.320 And if my book is on the top of the Amazon bestseller nonfiction list, you'd think it would make the New York Times list.
00:34:01.260 But they selectively go around the country to independent bookstores and independent bookstores won't sell it, even though they would make money selling it because they care more about their ideology and not getting a book called Get Trump on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:34:16.660 But look, if you keep buying it on Amazon and on Barnes and Nobles, nothing that anybody can do will prevent the American public from reading it and hold Bragg and others accountable.
00:34:29.580 Let me turn to Bragg.
00:34:30.840 I read this indictment.
00:34:32.000 You know, I've probably read more indictments than any lawyer in America.
00:34:36.380 You know, I've defended hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.
00:34:39.180 I have never seen an indictment like this.
00:34:43.940 You know, part of me was hoping maybe there'd be a smoking gun.
00:34:46.840 You know, then the American system would be vindicated.
00:34:50.400 This is worse than I ever thought.
00:34:52.440 Let me give you the underlying theory behind all of these 34 counts.
00:34:57.180 It's basically one thing.
00:34:58.400 And that is when Donald Trump paid $130,000 in order to make sure that Stormy Daniels, who was trying to extort him, would not publicly disclose an alleged affair, whether it happened or not, to his wife, to his family, to his business associates, to his voters.
00:35:16.540 When he paid that money, he had to know that he was going to immediately have to put on the form that he has to file with corporations about how he spent his money, the real reason he paid the money.
00:35:28.960 So he pays the $130,000 to make sure it doesn't come out that he had an alleged affair.
00:35:33.900 And then he has to put the alleged affair on public corporate records.
00:35:38.220 Never in the history of America, since the day Alexander Hamilton paid hush money to cover up his adulterous affair, has anybody ever listed on a corporate form, I paid hush money in order to prevent somebody who I had sex with from disclosing that fact.
00:35:56.720 There are hundreds, hundreds of hush money payments every year that's never, ever been a basis for a crime.
00:36:05.180 And then Bragg looked the American public in the face and said, this is my bread and butter.
00:36:10.680 We do this every day.
00:36:12.100 We even do it in sex cases.
00:36:13.940 So my challenge to Bragg is show us one case, one case where you or anyone else ever prosecuted somebody who paid hush money and then didn't put that hush money and the reason for it on a corporate form.
00:36:28.680 I'm waiting.
00:36:29.560 America is waiting.
00:36:30.440 It will never happen because it never did happen in the history of the United States.
00:36:36.740 This is the first case in which that kind of a Mickey Mouse charge was made against a man running for president.
00:36:45.080 And think about the implications of this.
00:36:47.040 A Democrat runs for DA.
00:36:49.580 He promises the people of the borough of Manhattan that he will get Trump.
00:36:53.840 They elect him.
00:36:54.800 He then gets Trump on an indictment and he wants the very same people who voted for him on the theory of get Trump to now serve on the jury to get Trump.
00:37:04.840 My God, how far do you have to go to explain the injustice in this?
00:37:10.140 It should be obvious to everybody.
00:37:11.600 And it has become increasingly obvious to Democrats and progressives and liberals.
00:37:18.060 And people are afraid to say it, but they say it to me and they say it to others.
00:37:23.880 This is American injustice at its worst.
00:37:26.840 So what is the path out of here?
00:37:32.300 Because yesterday you could tell that Alvin Bragg was petrified of having to answer questions.
00:37:38.640 I don't think he really understood the law.
00:37:40.400 He couldn't answer a basic question.
00:37:42.020 The flop sweats there.
00:37:42.880 And then he runs off the stage.
00:37:45.040 Where do we go from here?
00:37:46.340 I mean, what would be your recommendation?
00:37:47.840 Because this shows you this is American Bolshevism, right? 0.85
00:37:52.160 And we've got to stop it now.
00:37:53.680 So what would be your recommendation?
00:37:54.900 Well, we're seeing American Bolshevism in law schools.
00:37:58.620 And those lawyers who are engaged in American Bolshevism at Stanford and at Yale and at Georgetown
00:38:04.860 are our future judges, our future lawyers, our future leaders.
00:38:10.540 You know, I don't give advice to other lawyers generally.
00:38:14.680 But what I think should happen here, obviously, is that there has to be immediately a series of motions.
00:38:22.500 One, to switch the case out of the borough of Manhattan, where there's no chance he can get justice to Staten Island or Long Island or Norfolk, you know, one of the counties outside of New York City.
00:38:34.960 That will be denied because this judge doesn't have the courage to be the one who people point their finger to and say, that's the judge that freed Donald Trump.
00:38:46.280 Oh, my God.
00:38:47.380 Don't talk to him.
00:38:48.320 Don't vote for him.
00:38:49.120 Don't let him get promoted.
00:38:50.160 No judge has the courage to rule for Donald Trump in the borough of Manhattan.
00:38:54.180 But you can take that to the Court of Appeals before the trial, generally.
00:38:59.660 And generally, a court will think about a motion to change venue as something that can be appealed even before the trial begins.
00:39:08.100 The same thing is true with statute of limitations.
00:39:10.720 There's a very strong statute of limitations argument here because this is, after all, just a misdemeanor.
00:39:16.780 They try to turn it into a felony by concocting a theory that in Trump's mind at the time he filed this statement was to cover up another crime, not to protect his wife, not to protect his family, but to cover up another crime.
00:39:32.100 And then Bragg doesn't even include the other crime in the indictment itself, but he tries to mumble a few things about it in his interview.
00:39:41.080 So, you know, this is such a sad day for America.
00:39:43.860 I've stood for law, for justice, for the American Constitution for 60 years.
00:39:49.280 I don't support Donald Trump as a candidate.
00:39:52.420 I'm a Democrat.
00:39:53.360 I'm a liberal.
00:39:54.560 We can disagree about all of those things, but we must agree that the Constitution must prevail over partisanship.
00:40:02.420 And you can't go around targeting people and then making up crimes to fit the targeting.
00:40:08.120 That's just so dangerous to America.
00:40:10.500 The chief justice or the former justice, Jackson, Robert Jackson, probably the greatest attorney general in American history, lectured his attorneys general.
00:40:18.840 And he said, do not ever do that.
00:40:21.220 Don't rummage through the statute books.
00:40:23.360 Any prosecutor can find something to pin on somebody if you rummage through the books.
00:40:28.380 That's not the way we do it.
00:40:29.940 What we do is if there's a crime, we look for who committed a crime.
00:40:33.720 And there was a crime.
00:40:35.100 There were several crimes.
00:40:36.220 There was a crime committed by the leaking of the grand jury material, the fact that there were 34 charges.
00:40:42.000 That had to come from within Bragg's office or from within the grand jury.
00:40:47.860 That's a crime.
00:40:48.900 Committed right under your nose.
00:40:51.540 Prosecuted.
00:40:52.300 How about Stormy Daniels?
00:40:54.440 She committed what seems like, based on all the facts we know, the crime of extortion.
00:40:59.580 It is extortion to go to somebody and say, whether it's true or false, oh, I'm going to say you had an affair with me unless you pay me money.
00:41:06.580 Lawyers decide to say, no, that's just settlement of a possible lawsuit.
00:41:11.400 But it's worthy of investigation.
00:41:14.820 But Bragg doesn't do that.
00:41:16.660 He lowers felonies to misdemeanors when it becomes violent crimes.
00:41:21.380 But in this case, in this indictment, there isn't a single victim mentioned.
00:41:25.060 This is a victimless crime.
00:41:27.120 Who suffered?
00:41:28.180 Who was hurt?
00:41:28.820 And he puts all these resources, these tremendous lawyers, and some of them are great.
00:41:33.240 I know they're my former students.
00:41:35.080 They're really good lawyers putting on this Mickey Mouse case instead of prosecuting murderers and rapists and robbers.
00:41:42.740 It's a scandal.
00:41:44.140 How does this – your book is also about Fulton County and also about the grand jury in D.C.
00:41:49.900 How does this inform – we've got about a minute.
00:41:52.380 We'd love to hold you just for a few minutes through the break.
00:41:54.540 How is this going to inform Jack Smith and what's happening in Fulton County, sir?
00:41:59.840 Well, they're furious at Bragg because they have, they think, stronger cases.
00:42:04.380 And so putting the weakest case first really affects them.
00:42:08.340 The only case that has any plausibility – and I go through every one of the cases and get Trump.
00:42:13.760 Every one of them in detail is the Florida case of possession of classified material, but they're not going after Biden or Pence on that.
00:42:21.200 The other two cases, Washington, D.C., you can't prosecute somebody for saying to people, come and peacefully and patriotically demonstrate.
00:42:29.240 And in Georgia, you can't prosecute somebody for saying on a recorded line, fine, fine, fine, not make up, not concoct.
00:42:38.780 Fine, they're there.
00:42:40.340 Look hard.
00:42:41.020 See if there are votes that haven't been counted.
00:42:43.140 He used the word fine.
00:42:44.720 That is a complete defense.
00:42:46.880 The New York case is the weakest of the four.
00:42:49.160 It's the one that was brought first. 0.79
00:42:50.660 But because it's New York City and Manhattan, he may get a conviction.
00:42:55.020 That's certainly possible.
00:42:58.580 Professor Dershowitz, can you just hold a second?
00:43:00.600 We're going to hold through the break.
00:43:01.720 We've got Jeffrey Clark.
00:43:02.760 We're going to get into a lot of this.
00:43:03.840 We're also going to go and talk – we're going to discuss and break down what happened in the Supreme Court race in Wisconsin last night.
00:43:10.500 A total blowout, I think a 12-point win.
00:43:12.400 Caroline Wren, with her own sharp angle of attack on this, is going to join us. 0.98
00:43:17.360 Also, we've got polling from Rasmussen.
00:43:19.680 A lot going on.
00:43:20.480 Short commercial break.
00:43:21.340 Professor Alan Dershowitz from Harvard.
00:43:24.640 Jeffrey Clark, a former senior official in the Department of Justice, will join us next in the war room.
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00:46:01.260 Professor Dershowitz, just one last question because they're making this huge deal about Mar-a-Lago, Mar-a-Lago.
00:46:06.460 So in the book of Get Trump, we want to make this book number one to be in people's faces.
00:46:15.120 Right now, it's an excellent book, and it'll give you all the details about the cases that you need to understand out there in the audience.
00:46:19.900 But it also is sending a signal where they're trying to block any defense of Trump from getting anything.
00:46:25.760 In Mar-a-Lago, just walk us through – what's the key issue there in your mind?
00:46:30.960 There are a lot of key issues.
00:46:32.280 Number one, did Trump declassify before he left the White House?
00:46:35.620 If he did, that's a complete defense.
00:46:37.260 Number two, did he deliberately and willfully possess these material?
00:46:41.340 Look, every single president has inadvertently possessed classified material.
00:46:46.020 If you look hard enough, you'll find it.
00:46:48.540 Third, did he just direct his lawyers to do anything wrong?
00:46:52.520 You know, they're trying to violate lawyer-client privileges now all over the country.
00:46:57.100 One judge said that if a client lies to a lawyer, there's no more lawyer-client privilege.
00:47:01.860 Well, you know, I've had like 300 clients and probably 250 of them lied to me.
00:47:06.600 That's the nature of the relationship in the beginning.
00:47:09.420 I'm not suggesting that Trump lied to any of his lawyers.
00:47:12.300 So if they make the case, just did he possess and did he immediately turn over, they have something there.
00:47:20.500 But he has a defense that, of course, Biden doesn't have.
00:47:26.260 Biden doesn't claim that he had no power to declassify.
00:47:30.600 He was not the president when the stuff appeared in his garage.
00:47:33.860 So they would have to justify why are they picking on Trump rather than Hillary Clinton.
00:47:39.260 Remember, Hillary Clinton, you had the head of the FBI getting up there and saying,
00:47:42.560 we've never prosecuted a case like this before.
00:47:46.580 And so it was the first one going to be Donald Trump.
00:47:48.520 So I think in the end, he wins a Mar-a-Lago.
00:47:52.280 I am almost sure that he wins the other two cases.
00:47:55.980 I outline them in great detail in my book.
00:47:59.060 And I outline what they're trying to do to lawyers, even lawyers like me who defended President
00:48:04.980 Trump once on the floor of the Senate.
00:48:07.200 There are bar complaints there.
00:48:09.160 You name it.
00:48:10.220 People are attacking lawyers.
00:48:12.100 People are attacking associates.
00:48:14.100 The legal system is in great jeopardy.
00:48:16.080 And as I write in my book, you may think it's danger to America to get President Trump elected.
00:48:21.800 I have to tell you, even as somebody who voted against him, it's a far greater danger to destroy
00:48:27.640 our Constitution in an effort to get Trump.
00:48:30.780 Let the voters decide who the next president will be.
00:48:33.820 But let not prosecutors destroy our legal system in an effort to prevent the voters from voting
00:48:40.820 in an effort to get Trump.
00:48:43.880 Professor Dershowitz, how do people get to your podcast and your other writings?
00:48:48.940 Podcast is the Dershow.
00:48:50.800 It got 100,000 views last night when I talked about the Trump case.
00:48:54.200 And I'll be talking about it tonight as well.
00:48:56.320 I talk about it three times a week.
00:48:58.040 It's the Dershow. 0.82
00:48:58.880 I know it's on Rumble and it's on YouTube.
00:49:02.040 The rest of my writings, you know, you just go on Google, Google Dershowitz.
00:49:06.320 And I write something pretty much every day, written 52 books, and I've written over a
00:49:10.940 thousand articles.
00:49:11.920 So there's no shortage of things to read if you want to read things about me.
00:49:15.500 So I appreciate that.
00:49:16.600 But I'm most interested in people buying Get Trump because that that is a book that sends
00:49:21.200 a message to people out there who want to get Trump, that they're going to be held accountable,
00:49:26.760 if not in courts of law, certainly in the court of public opinion.
00:49:32.200 Professor Dershowitz, thank you very much.
00:49:34.140 Honored to have you on here.
00:49:35.160 Happy Passover and happy Easter and happy Ramadan to everybody.
00:49:40.240 Thank you, sir.
00:49:42.300 Jeffrey Clark, you've got a particular take on this entire situation.
00:49:48.240 Can we hear it from you?
00:49:50.160 Sure.
00:49:50.760 Well, Steve, first, I got to say, it seems like the government gangsters have been trying
00:49:55.480 to attack my web access and my phone here.
00:49:59.440 So it's good to be with you fighting through those obstacles.
00:50:03.280 Look, I'm really angry about this, Steve, because what's at stake really is the tearing
00:50:10.220 up of the Constitution into tatters.
00:50:11.880 I mean, we're in the 235th year of the republic.
00:50:15.280 And Alvin Bragg, the indictment he unsealed yesterday, that's what he comes up with.
00:50:22.640 I mean, it's like a paper mache thing or a cut and paste job or chat GPT could have written
00:50:28.340 it because it's just a collection of dates and check numbers.
00:50:33.680 And it's the kind of thing that someone could have put together, you know, with a computer
00:50:39.060 macro.
00:50:39.480 It's really unbelievable.
00:50:41.660 And the key problem with the indictment, which I think Professor Dershowitz touched on a little
00:50:49.100 bit, is that the theory is that you take a misdemeanor about falsifying business records
00:50:54.920 and then you add that to some other crime and now you magically get to a felony.
00:51:01.620 OK, well, what's the other crime?
00:51:04.080 They asked Alvin Bragg about that yesterday.
00:51:06.960 He ridiculously says, I don't need to tell you.
00:51:10.280 So we're dealing with a situation where there's a mystery crime and you can't have a mystery
00:51:16.140 crime.
00:51:16.740 It violates both our Sixth Amendment and the New York Bill of Rights, Article 1, Section 6,
00:51:23.880 which requires that the defendant shall be informed of the nature and the cause of the
00:51:28.600 accusation.
00:51:29.520 Well, how can you defend against an accusation?
00:51:31.720 You don't know what its nature and cause is if he won't even tell you what other statute
00:51:36.400 you're supposed to have violated together with the falsified business record so that you get
00:51:41.240 to the supposed felony and so that he can add up his 34 felonies.
00:51:45.560 I mean, it is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen before a president, the first time
00:51:51.840 ever in our history, was going to be charged.
00:51:54.780 You would think that they would have a very ironclad, complex, white-collar indictment to
00:52:02.900 bring, and instead it's like, it's like cheese whiz, you know, it's like soup that runs through
00:52:07.620 your hands.
00:52:08.260 It really is a flabbergasting thief.
00:52:10.860 It's a total violation of due process.
00:52:13.140 There's no fair notice to President Trump as to what he's actually supposed to even be
00:52:17.520 defending against.
00:52:20.360 Jeffrey, if you can hang on, Jeff Clark, if you can hang on, we're going to hold you.
00:52:24.020 We've got a 90 second break.
00:52:26.360 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:52:28.020 We'll be back in 90 seconds for the second hour.
00:52:30.260 We've got Rasmussen polling.
00:52:32.200 We have Caroline Wren on the situation in Wisconsin, exactly what happened and what can be done
00:52:37.360 about it, because that'll be a flashing red light to everyone.
00:52:41.720 Also, Ben Burkwam was in a, they were in a gunfight yesterday down in Panama.
00:52:46.440 We're going to show somebody died, one of the bad guys, it looks like.
00:52:48.760 We're going to get Ben Burkwam and Oscar Blue Ramirez were down there and get Ben Burkwam.
00:52:53.240 Also, we're going to talk about capital markets and the economy.
00:52:56.220 All of it, stick around, 90 seconds, back in the warm in a second.
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