Episode 2668： Inflation Is Only Created In Washington
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D.A. has a field day in Manhattan, and Rep. Adam Schiff is in the middle of a hearing that could have been about crime, but it was actually about Trump. And Rep. Schiff is here to defend Donald Trump.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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The House Republicans are escalating their fight with D.A. Alvin Bragg.
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They literally just finished a hearing in Manhattan on violent crime.
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One Republican tweeting, the city is no longer safe.
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If that's true, why aren't the D.A., the mayor or the police commissioner on the witness list?
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Plus, state secrets, private assessments of Russian propaganda, Chinese spying and Taiwan's military,
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all exposed for the world to see, allegedly leaked by an airman barely old enough to buy a beer.
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As Congress returns to the Hill, full of fury over it all, what are they prepared to do about it?
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And attorneys for the family of a black teenager demanding justice for what they call a horrendous and unjustifiable shooting.
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The 16-year-old victim recovering in the hospital after being shot in the head for doing nothing but showing up at the wrong address.
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But we begin right here in New York, where former President Donald Trump's congressional allies are taking their fight to Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg's backyard
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Democrats call it a political stunt, an excuse for Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan and other House Republicans to undermine Bragg's prosecution of Trump by painting the D.A. as soft on crime.
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Here in Manhattan, the scales of justice are weighed down by politics.
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For the district attorney, justice isn't blind.
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It's about looking for opportunities to advance a political agenda.
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Let me be very clear. We are here today in lower Manhattan for one reason and one reason only.
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The chairman is doing the bidding of Donald Trump.
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Instead, it is the GOP leadership in Congress doing what it has done best for the last six years,
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and that is to act as the criminal defense counsel for Donald J. Trump.
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Well, let me tell you this. Let me tell you this.
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Capitol Police. Gentlemen, we'll suspend. Capitol Police.
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Capitol Police will remove the gentleman from the audience.
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Gentlemen, capital, please, please, please remove the gentleman from the audience.
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It was a very unfortunate attack on Ralph Nader.
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His comments about Ralph Nader are way out of line.
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Of course, it is not a coincidence that we are here in Manhattan.
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Instead, it is the GOP leadership in Congress doing what it has done best over the last
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six years, and that is to act as the criminal defense counsel for Donald J.
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But the problem is, is that this is a charade to cover up for an abuse of power that they
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are going around talking incessantly outside of this hearing about Donald Trump.
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And the purpose of this hearing is to cover up for what they know to be an inappropriate
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Now, I look forward, many of you are in New York City.
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You're trying to insult me like I'm not aware of what's going on here.
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That's why I walked away from the plantation of the Democratic Party.
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Ms. Bray, what I was about to say is that as a representative of this city, I look forward
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It is, it's Monday, 17, April, on the year of our Lord, 2023.
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We've got Congressman Matt Gaetz joins us back from the committee hearing.
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This was one of the wildest things I've ever seen.
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This was actually about the lawlessness in New York City.
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And the Democrats completely freaked out on this entire time.
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Well, I guess today's hearing was about Donald Trump insofar as we see this pattern throughout
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history, where totalitarian regimes from the Bolsheviks to the Nazis to Mao Zedong always
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And our concern is that some of the ugliest moments of history are playing out again on
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our streets and in the minds of some of our policymakers.
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Donald Trump stands against a government that would think so low of its people that it would
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leave them to fend for themselves, disarmed with the criminal element in charge of the
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And our focus was on the specific experiences of some of the people in New York who had come
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to us with concerns about misuse of federal money in Alvin Bragg's office.
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The lady you just heard from who said she was done on the Democrat plantation, the mother of a slain
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army veteran who was killed as a consequence of violent crime, where the incompetence of Alvin
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Bragg resulted in the inability to truly administer justice and have accountability in her case with her
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family. So to see Dan Goldman, who, by the way, since Hakeem Jeffries became leader of the
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Democrats, is their most talented member in any committee.
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He's the best they got. But to see Dan Goldman, who is the heir to the Levi Strauss fortune.
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People don't know this. The guy's a bayonet, right?
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He, he, I don't know his exact dollar amount, but he could buy everyone in this room and sell
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them multiple times over. And he had a certain mansplain about him with that woman. And boy,
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did she return fire. She was not going to be mansplained by Dan Goldman about what was
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reasonable for her to think about the safety on the streets where she lives.
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I know the overall theory of what you guys trying to do. What I loved about this today
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was the humanity of it. I mean, there was intention. You had the Miles Grove demonstrators,
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but you also had, we didn't get to play another part where they're talking down to the witnesses
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and the witnesses, I mean, hit them with a volley right back. I mean, the witnesses were engaged
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Oh, you had Jose Alba there, you know, and, and amid all the distractions and things people
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were saying and doing that, the true essence of that was the experience of New Yorkers.
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Jose Alba was working in a bodega, got attacked. And when he defended himself with a knife,
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because by the way, you can't, you can't have a gun, even, even in self-defense in many cases
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in New York, when he defended himself, he was the one that ended up getting charged.
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And so they are putting the law on the side of violent criminals. And I believe that in every
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society in all of human history, since came and able, there has been a, a violent criminal element
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and whether or not we have to live in fear resides in our ability and our gumption to ensure that
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they're not the ones in charge. Talk to me is, walk through what judiciary is going to do here.
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Are you going to other cities? You're going back to New York. What, what, what is,
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what are you guys trying to prove? Uh, New York's actually not the first city city where we've had
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such a field hearing went to Yuma, Arizona, heard about the crime, heard about the strain on social
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services that occur there. So we've been to Arizona, we've been in New York. I would expect that some
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of the things that we've seen in California were very concerned about because we don't want this
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to metastasize. I mean, people are leaving New York in droves. Uh, I think it was U-Haul that said
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the top three states people are leaving New York, California, uh, Illinois, and the three states
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there are three areas are going to Florida, Texas, and the Carolinas. So people are, are leaving New
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York. We just don't want the ideas of Illinois and California and New York to metastasize around
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the country. So I think that's the, the principal job of the judiciary committee is to confront these
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ideas on policy terms as we did today. And to showcase that you don't have to live this way.
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We live this way in some of the bluest cities in the country because of specific choices made
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on cashless bail, on deciding not to prosecute certain crimes, on the decision to make erroneous
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downgrades, and even on just the basic competency of losing cases. Al, Alvin Bragg, uh, is like not
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exactly hitting at it out of the park when it comes to the winning percentage. He's actually tens of
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percentage points lower than Cy Vance, his predecessor on a number of key categories.
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Tom, one of the things I noticed, I didn't hear, we watch it here. We didn't on replay because we're
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doing the show live through most of it. I never heard the Republicans ever mentioned Trump and
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the Democrats were obsessed with, in fact, you could tell they were losing at the end because you
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guys were listening to the victims. They didn't want to hear the victims. Well, make no mistake. The
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House Judiciary Committee is investigating the weaponization of Alvin Bragg's office against
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Donald Trump. And that's why we've asked Alvin Bragg for information. It's why in the coming
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days, uh, we will be taking a transcribed interview of Mark Palmerance, who was the person
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who left and, and wrote the book. That's right. What, what he's getting deposed. Yeah. He,
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we have him on our list. Will you be there for that? I will. And, and I will be there to ask
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questions that relate to the, uh, investigation of president Trump and the misuse of federal
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resources there. But today was about the people of New York today was about lashing these terrible
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choices that are made on policy grounds to the bloody experiences people have had. Uh, and that's
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why we wanted to lift those voices up. And it was so condescending to watch Democrats look their
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constituents in the face and try to tell them that because some, you know, professor at the end of the
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table had, uh, come up with a creative interpretation of crime data that they weren't
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really experiencing the things they were experiencing. The, one of the Democrat witnesses
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said, look, there's just a lot of people in Manhattan. You just have to take it. And boy,
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did that get some of the witnesses. No, that did not go over well. Um, I know you guys are onto
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something when C-SPAN walk me through the coverage and the C even Yuma, you know, that they're afraid of
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this and they don't want to see it when C-SPAN doesn't do it. And MSNBC guys just, just do the
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more chaotic parts of it. They don't really get to the power of people sitting there talking about
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their lived experience under Bragg. What I found is that when we leave Washington DC and go out in
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the country, the way that the media information, uh, domain changes is largely around local news.
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You get pickup from local news, local radio, and they're in many cases, just putting forward what
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occurred. And that has a, a breakthrough element that goes beyond the war room posse. It goes to
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people who I think can be drawn in and can be turned into an operational force given the right
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information. And that's why we're, we're going around really on, on an information tour.
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It was interesting on MSNBC and CNN with commentators, one of their biggest complaints
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were why did Gates and Jordan have to go to New York to do this? People could have come down to
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Washington DC and testify. They were very upset about that. How arrogant that we believe that
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people ought to always have to come to us. The notion of the great imperial city here in Washington,
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we had no problem going to New York and, you know, we're not going to have a problem going to San
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Francisco and Los Angeles and Chicago and other places where people are truly under siege.
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And I don't think that the policy remedy here, as some on the right might suggest is federalizing
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law enforcement. I understand that the police power is a power that belongs to the state. So I'm not
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trying to substitute our judgment for anyone at the local level, but, but I do think there is a big
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policy debate going on right now in the country. You've got the defund, the police folks,
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you've got the folks who are soft on crime and they are well resourced and advancing their agenda.
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And so we want to make sure that the victims and law enforcement also have a voice in that
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national debate. And that's what our committee can facilitate. Two of the most, two of the most
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powerful things that have happened in the first hundred days of McCarthy speakership, I believe,
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have been your field investigation down at Yuma and what happened today. They were just very powerful.
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You heard from people firsthand in the depth of the experience and the problems were very
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powerful. Okay. We're going to take a short break. A couple other things. John Solomon was on here
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earlier today, talked about this issue with Mike Morrell and some of the, and the people with the
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laptop from hell. Also, Kevin McCarthy gave a speech today at the, at the stock exchange. Then he was kind
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of heckled by the CMP, you know, hectored and heckled by the CNBC crowd. I want to get into all of that.
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Plus new revelations about the, about the quote unquote, the leak, but what it means for Ukraine
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and national security. We have Congressman Matt Gaetz is in the house. He's just back from New York
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with this incredibly powerful, dramatic testimony today of the Judiciary Committee in lower Manhattan
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talking to witnesses. Okay. Short break. Back in a moment.
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So if you just raise the debt ceiling, do you think $31 trillion of debt? The CBO has come out
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in the next 10 years. Do you know we'll pay 10.5? You did it three times in the Trump administration.
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As we did economic changes. We never raised the debt ceiling by itself. But the tax cuts,
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that was like $2 trillion. And you know how much we're bringing in in revenue? On average,
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in the 50-year average in America, you bring 17% of GDP. Today, we're bringing 20. That's
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only two other times in modern history in America have you ever brought 20% of GDP. That's because
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the tax cuts actually created economy to grow and brought more revenue into the economy.
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But the problem is not how much money we're bringing in where the president just wants
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to raise more taxes. It's our spending. On 50-year average, we normally only spend 21% of GDP.
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Right now, we're spending 23.6 on our way to 25. So if you don't tackle the spending problem,
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you're never. And if you ignore this problem, and you just raise the debt ceiling, our debt is now
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$31 trillion. It's bigger than our entire economy by 20%. You're at a tipping point. So all you're
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going to do is cause more inflation. Remember what Milton Friedman, my favorite economist said,
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inflation is only created in Washington. And the only way you curve inflation is you create
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the interest rate to be higher than the inflation rate. We've already had bank failures based upon
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this policy where the Democrats spent $6 trillion more. So yes, our history has always been that we
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did not just raise the debt ceiling. President Biden, every time, did not believe in that. And I don't
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know why you'd want to change it now when we're more in economic dire straits. Because if you did what
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you were requesting, you would create more inflation, more dependency on China, you would harm
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Social Security and Medicare. I mean, for the first time in a 10-year window, three trust funds
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will go and solve it. Infrastructure. I'm not suggesting we don't do anything about that. I'm just
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suggesting there's a time and place for it. And the time and the technical time and places
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right now. Okay. Okay. He's being hectored right there. They don't do that to Democrats. But I
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got to tell you, I want that Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy ate his Wheaties. He was, somehow,
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this is now you can tell focus, because he was on point right there. He went yard, knocked it out
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of the park. Absolutely. I was so glad that during Speaker McCarthy's remarks, he emphasized the very
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work requirements that you and I have discussed extensively on this show. I came on the war room
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and said, no debt limit increase without work requirements. And MSNBC and CNN went nuts and
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replayed that clip and left-wing media aggregated it to the moon. And now you hear the Speaker of
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the House uttering those very same things. And I think that is a very positive step. I would also
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say that as we sit here now, we do not have 218 votes. In that seat today was MTG. Okay. And
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remember, she's part of the five families, helping McCarthy, and she was adamant. How does the story
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end for the five family? I keep hearing this reference to the five families, but I think it
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ends like The Godfather, right? Oh, so who would sign up to be part of the five families meetings
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knowing the end of the movie? Exactly. The Daily Mail is reporting right now in an exclusive
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interview with Speaker McCarthy after he left the New York Stock Exchange for the speech that he has
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218 votes on a thing that will cut spending, but he will give a one-year debt limit. MTG, I don't
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think, was unfamiliar with that this morning. What say you? Speaker McCarthy was outstanding today.
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He's focusing on a lot of the right themes. But as we sit here today, there are not 218 votes to
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raise the debt limit. We're still working on where the spending caps ought to be. And Marjorie Taylor
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Green made a point very forcefully during one of these meetings we were having with leadership.
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Why are we still doing all this foreign aid? If we are $30 trillion in debt, if we have to raise the
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debt limit another $2 trillion, what in the world are we doing borrowing money from one country or
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devaluing the American dollar for Americans so that we can fund other countries?
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Well, having working class people in this country pay the wealthy because the foreign aid is all sucked
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up by the wealthy in those nations, right? We spend so much time on this show talking about the border and
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about oversight, things I care deeply about, free speech, big tech. But this printing of money,
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this scheme is the corrupt enterprise that funds all that we are concerned about. And just look at
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what Joe Biden has done without any congressional approval. With no congressional approval, he has
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nationalized the banking system by guaranteeing every deposit in the country. He has now decided to
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give Obamacare to illegal aliens and single-handedly, with a passage of no laws, destroying the Trump
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border policies that actually got things in order.
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Given the humanitarian visas down in Mexico, it's everything scam. Now, hold it. I'm a pivot now to
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Ukraine because very specifically, one of the big issues of this is Ukraine, from the intelligence side
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and also the budget side. And I hear that just like you came on here and announced, hey, I think I can
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kick a trillion dollars in cost out of here by just making people go to work, right? Tell me about
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Well, we should not be sending another red cent to Ukraine. The problem is that view that I hold
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is not a view that is held by a majority in Congress. So we have a lot of Republicans right now
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who are still supportive of more aid to Ukraine. Speaker McCarthy is probably one of them.
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So I'm in the minority of the majority on that issue. And so I'm playing a different hand on
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Ukraine, frankly, than on the debt limit, where regardless of how a lot of people feel about
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Ukraine, a lot of people who are pro sending more money to Ukraine are also against raising the debt
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limit absent some pretty serious vertical cuts. I would suggest that Ukraine ought to be at the top
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of the list when it comes to cuts. If we have to raise the debt limit to fund our own country,
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maybe we shouldn't fund pensions in another one. Is that like the crazy thing to say?
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Doesn't the content of what's happened in this leak inform your colleagues about how the
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triumphalist narrative on Ukraine we've been lied to consistently? And aren't you going to put a
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don't we have to force Biden to come to the floor and make a walk us through what the plan is?
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So Wednesday, we have a bipartisan classified briefing on the leak and the cascading effects
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of that. And I will observe. Yes, I will observe closely how my colleagues react to some of this
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information will probably be better suited. Because we've been outside of Washington during
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the duration where these revelations have come. And I don't have a real real good sense of how
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people are going to react to it. Talk to me about how do you get then? Is this program you want to
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do a voter Rama? And the reason you want to do a voter Rama is so you got Arrington's budget,
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you got Hearns, you've got the vote, you got bigs, you got 50, you see deep cuts, Freedom Caucus,
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Main Street. We have 222 members and about 250 plans. Okay. And so your theory of the case,
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because you're saying, hey, you love Speaker McCarthy, what he's doing today,
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but you're not buying this 218 votes about any one plan.
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Well, that's not Speaker McCarthy's fault. I mean, listen, we cannot go and take away every tool
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Kevin McCarthy has to move votes and then blame him that the votes aren't there.
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We defanged Kevin McCarthy during the first week of January. So I'm not going to be at the front of
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the list to now criticize him for not delivering the votes. This is incumbent upon the conference.
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And frankly, if we make the cuts that I think we need to make, we wouldn't even need to raise the
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Andy Biggs has put together a legislative package of over 500 cuts, very deep cuts into foreign aid,
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zeroing out a lot of these green energy priorities, doing a full COVID clawback of a lot of the funds
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that haven't been spent, which by the way, will be less by the time I'm done with this paragraph.
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And, and that would give us the flexibility to avoid having to raise the debt limit.
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And that would be my preference. Now, you know, I also think there are great ideas in the Freedom
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Caucus plan. I believe work requirements are really helpful because they don't just drive down
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costs on one side. It also creates more labor participation and growth on the other end,
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which juices the revenue that I left to say, it's everywhere. They're saying that you're the
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cruelest guy in the house right now, because you're going to make, I said that about me before I was
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for work requirements. Talk about the work requirements. How, how draconian are these
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work requirements? You're saying a trillion dollars. Every time. Well, that's tailorable.
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That's tailorable. So the trillion dollars. But they, but they, everybody says the work requirements
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got to be part of it. What is it? Because the left is saying that you are the worst member of the
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house for even bringing this up. If you did a full work requirement that gave the obligation to
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every person, regardless of whether they had dependents, so long as they weren't disabled,
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not a senior citizen. And you made that requirement 11 months out of the year, 40 hours a week,
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you would achieve the greatest savings. I think that something more modest can be advanced. I think if
00:25:39.020
you had able-bodied childless adults have to work 10 months out of the year and then be able to qualify
00:25:47.540
for Medicaid, then you would have a whole lot of incentive to get people off the couch right now
00:25:54.360
who could make a contribution and choose not to. That doesn't save a trillion, but it saves a good
00:26:01.100
chunk. And I think it also delivers on the growth side. Walk me through your voter-rama. Why does that
00:26:05.840
make sense to do it your way? I want to know where people stand. Look, we have one half of one third of
00:26:11.040
the government. And so we're not going to get everything that you want or that I want. And I
00:26:16.500
don't want us to get rolled as this machine continues to soak up every dollar, drive inflation, and hollow
00:26:24.760
out the futures of our fellow Americans. At the same time, I want to know where my Republican
00:26:31.300
colleagues stand. I want to see who's going to vote against the bigs plan. I want to see who would vote
00:26:35.220
against Kevin Hearn's good budget or the good budget presented by the Freedom Caucus or all of the
00:26:39.880
ideas, frankly, that Jody Arrington very competently put forward when Republicans gathered recently in
00:26:46.880
Orlando. And if we did all of that, then people would have to stand before their constituents. But
00:26:51.360
the reason there's resistance to a voter-rama is because some people have to take some tough votes.
00:26:57.780
And I'm just, I'm sorry, but that's how it's going to be now. We're not going back to the days
00:27:03.880
of members being protected from having to take a position on the most important issues facing the
00:27:09.240
country and the world and the economy. And you want to see that debate on the floor,
00:27:13.960
have people to have to defend of what they're going to cut and defend what they're not going
00:27:17.760
to cut. Absolutely. Is this part of, we're going to go to break, can I keep you for a couple of
00:27:21.420
minutes on the other side? Sure. Okay. Because I got to ask about this morale thing of John Solomon.
00:27:28.380
Donald Trump said to the donors as we can, the old Republican Party is dead and it's not coming
00:27:32.720
back. Is that part of it, what you're talking about? You got to take tough votes now?
00:27:35.720
Yeah. I think procedurally, we have to embrace the notion that we have to be bold and we have
00:27:42.420
to deliver for people. And you don't get there by having these cooked up backroom deals that are
00:27:47.480
written by the lobbyists and the special interests and the entities that I have for.
00:27:51.180
This is how you break the cartel. And this is what you guys envisioned when you did this
00:27:56.620
Cockroaches always scatter when the lights are turned on.
00:27:58.520
Okay. Short commercial break. Congressman Gates is going to stay with us a couple of minutes on the
00:28:01.380
other side. Got to talk to him about this, about the laptop from hell. Grant Stinchfield is going to be
00:28:05.600
here for his assessment. There's only he can give it to these NRA speeches where Mike Pence got booed.
00:28:11.440
And now we've got the Mike Davis is going to join us also about Justice Clarence Thomas.
00:28:17.120
They're saying Clarence Thomas, the new Abe Fortas. I don't think so. We'll get Mike Davis in here.
00:28:22.220
Congressman Gates on the other side. Short break. Back in a moment.
00:28:24.840
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Okay. Welcome back. I know you got to run. You're busy, but I got to ask you, Solomon
00:29:44.700
comes on today because I know it's one thing that you've been very focused on. John Solomon
00:29:48.140
comes on, got a breaking story. Then he tells us, Jim Jordan, he talked to Jordan that certain
00:29:53.280
they've been, you guys have been doing depositions of certain members related in the intelligence
00:29:57.680
community to the full page ad in the letter that came out about the laptop from hell, the
00:30:02.320
41. And he mentioned Mike Morrell's name. And he said, Mike Morrell has given some information
00:30:06.580
that could lead one to believe what Solomon thinks that you're going to be able to connect
00:30:09.780
this to the Biden campaign. Now, I know you've been very involved in this. This is a kind
00:30:15.820
So people know who Mike Morrell is, former deputy director of the CIA, former acting director
00:30:21.780
of the CIA, wanted to be Joe Biden's CIA director, got a phone call from Tony Blinken, who was
00:30:30.320
representing the Biden campaign saying, you know, gee, Mike, doesn't this Hunter Biden
00:30:35.720
laptop look like Russian disinformation? Morrell testifies that that then triggers him to be
00:30:42.180
the ringleader of an enterprise to go to others and to put together a letter for the specific
00:30:48.800
purpose of use by Joe Biden in the presidential debate.
00:30:53.140
We can prove that and much more. Everything I'm telling you, I can fully corroborate with
00:31:00.520
records and testimony. There are other very concerning behaviors of the government that
00:31:06.580
I have only seen reflected in testimony. Some I've only seen reflected in records. That's
00:31:11.840
why every day this week, I will be conducting depositions as a part of what we're doing on
00:31:18.040
the weaponization subcommittee. We will be back doing this. We are rocking and rolling.
00:31:23.120
To get to the bottom of it. And there'll be much more to come. But at a top line, we can
00:31:28.900
prove that the entire purpose of this letter at the outset was to influence a presidential
00:31:35.160
election with some of the most senior people who have ever been in our intelligence community,
00:31:39.920
using the emperor matter of their security clearances to pave the way for Joe Biden's
00:31:45.720
Can we get you back when you guys have a little more to talk about that? Because that's
00:31:48.520
that's as big as bombshells I've heard in the city.
00:31:51.020
We will be back whenever you invite us. Congressman, how do people get to Firebrain? How do they
00:31:56.200
get to your... By the way, you got competition tonight. And by the way, we're going to start
00:31:59.340
doing Firebrain on Getter with a live chat when he put it up because MTG launches her podcast
00:32:06.900
I'm a huge fan of her commentary on things. So I wish her all the best. Our podcast is
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Firebrand. You can get it on Apple, Spotify, Podbean, anywhere that you get podcasts. I'm
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at rep Matt Gaetz and at Matt Gaetz everywhere on the internet.
00:32:22.040
Congressman, thank you. I know it's tough to come by.
00:32:25.360
Okay. Congressman Matt Gaetz. Wow. What a story. We're going to drill down more on that.
00:32:29.320
I've got Grant Stinchfield. Grant, I asked you the other day because nobody better knows
00:32:34.140
the details, the culture of not just gun owners in this country, but also the NRA. I want
00:32:40.720
to play a cold open from the speech the other day and get your assessment, sir.
00:32:45.480
Upon my inauguration, I will direct the FDA to convene, and it's so... It's going to happen
00:32:51.000
quickly, to convene an independent outside panel to investigate whether transgender hormone
00:32:57.940
treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression, and even
00:33:03.820
violence. I think most of us already know the answer, don't we? Furthermore, we have
00:33:07.860
to look at whether common psychiatric drugs, as well as genetically engineered cannabis and
00:33:15.780
other narcotics are causing psychotic breaks. And I will ask Congress to send a bill to my
00:33:25.680
We want protection. Just like your driver's license or your marriage license, your Second
00:33:37.940
Amendment must apply across state lines. It will. We'll get it done pretty quickly, too.
00:33:42.840
Well, hello, NRA. I love you, too. And welcome back to the Hoosier State.
00:33:58.600
Oh, boy. Grant Stinchfield, compare and contrast what we just saw there, sir.
00:34:04.380
Well, that just goes to show you that Mike Pence has no business running for the presidency. I agree
00:34:09.180
with President Trump. I think Mike Pence probably is a nice man, but he has blown any chance he had
00:34:15.840
at the presidency of how he handled his office himself after January 6th. I think you see the
00:34:21.400
Patriots in the room there, NRA members, all by and large, for the most part, Trump supporters.
00:34:27.320
Mike Pence doesn't have a shot at running for the presidency. He ought to bow out quietly and go on
00:34:31.940
about his business. On the notion of reciprocity, Steve, you know, back in President Trump's first
00:34:38.100
year in office, President Trump actually supported the idea of national reciprocity, this idea that
00:34:43.460
your concealed carry license acts just like a driver's license. It's good in every state across
00:34:48.220
the country. It may remind people that driving is not a constitutional right. Carrying a firearm
00:34:53.260
is. The problem was the Republican-controlled Congress and the Senate couldn't get it done.
00:34:58.380
I was working at the NRA that year for that time. We were pushing this so hard, and I said we may
00:35:04.700
never get another chance to push reciprocity again. It is so important for gun owners' rights.
00:35:10.220
They didn't get it done back then, but boy, could you imagine if we took back Congress?
00:35:15.020
Now with the America First members of Congress, you just had Matt Gaetz on. You talk about Marjorie
00:35:19.200
Taylor Greene. It's a different Congress than it is back then in 2017.
00:35:25.360
Have you ever seen, you've been at this for a while, have you ever seen the media firestorm
00:35:29.340
about this maniacal focus to take people's guns? Have you ever seen anything like this? Because
00:35:34.560
it's dangerous, and I think it's going to get more dangerous. I'd like your thoughts.
00:35:38.800
Well, you know, working inside the NRA, it always felt like it was a constant assault going all the
00:35:43.200
way back to when I first started there, I guess in 2014, 2015. And it was always a battle. They were
00:35:48.760
always, but now they literally want to legislate the Second Amendment out of existence. They deal in
00:35:54.520
lies. They despise the National Rifle Association. Nothing's changed there. They still look at that
00:35:59.140
organization with such vitriol. But I will tell you, the NRA, I really do believe is too big to fail.
00:36:05.000
It is one of the most important, if not the most important civil rights organization we have on the
00:36:09.340
face of the planet. And you know, I think the most important story to come out of the NRA's annual
00:36:13.880
meetings this weekend, Steve, is the fact that they set records. 77,000 attendees, the numbers are just
00:36:21.580
out now, showed up in Indianapolis. And I was reading articles in the mainstream media outlets saying
00:36:28.240
that it was noticeably smaller this year. And hotel rooms were on sale. Meanwhile, what were the real
00:36:35.660
numbers? Record numbers. They haven't had numbers like this in 12 years, 14 years at least, by what I
00:36:41.680
remember. So that, to me, says that Americans, by and large, still not only support this organization, but
00:36:47.980
but gun rights and the Second Amendment in general.
00:36:52.280
Grant, you do both the show. You're on radio. You've got a great feel for people. I want to turn
00:36:56.260
to Gates. The McCarthy up there, the debt ceiling. Matt says he doesn't have 218 votes. From your
00:37:03.040
take from people, how big a deal is the spending issue right now, the debt ceiling, all of it, sir?
00:37:09.400
You know, I would say it's everything except really what people are worried about is the uncertainty of
00:37:14.520
what's going to happen to America. So ultimately, I think people are really concerned that this
00:37:19.480
communism push and the socialism push take over. And the Biden regime continues, whether it's Joe
00:37:24.640
Biden at the helm or some other idiot. It doesn't matter, right? Because these elitists, these globalists
00:37:29.780
are all calling the shots. But when it gets down to it, right, spending is everything here. Because
00:37:35.580
if we spend our nation into oblivion, then they absolutely will break us. We'll have no way
00:37:41.220
to pay back these debts. What they are offering up, the Democrats right now, is nothing short of
00:37:47.540
insanity. It's immaturity. And really, it's no regard for the future kids of America. My 13-year-old,
00:37:54.760
you know, your kids out there, grandkids, whatever it may be for people who are watching.
00:37:59.500
This is no regard for the future of America unless they want to break us on purpose. And I think in
00:38:04.880
the end, Steve, that's what people are the most concerned about, is there is this all-out assault on
00:38:10.640
America, American values, to break this nation, to rebuild it back in their sick vision of some
00:38:17.020
socialist, communist nation. So all of it plays in together. But I think people see the big picture
00:38:22.380
that we really are at war. And I don't mean a physical war, but we're really at a war for the
00:38:28.380
soul of this nation. Grant, how do people get all your content? Where do they go? I know you get the
00:38:34.360
show, the radio show, your writing. Where do people go? Yeah, man, I'm all over the place. I'm so
00:38:39.140
blessed to be coming up right here on Real America's Voice at 7 o'clock Eastern time. We
00:38:44.320
got Stinchfield tonight, which is doing phenomenal. Thanks to guys like you, Steve, and everybody
00:38:49.020
else on this network that just set it up for us at 7 o'clock Eastern. And then I'm on the
00:38:54.520
radio out in Los Angeles. But the best way is just type in Stinchfield. My podcast is so
00:38:59.300
important. Type in Stinchfield. Subscribe to it, please. I cannot tell you how much it helps
00:39:04.000
me and Stinchfield's army continue to get the word out. So GrantStinchfield.com, GrantStinchfield.com,
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and everywhere on social media, Stinchfield1776.
00:39:14.780
Grant, thank you very much for joining us. Appreciate it.
00:39:20.240
Thanks. Nobody's got a better feel for the gun owners and the big issues facing this country
00:39:24.400
than Grant. And boy, we had John Solomon, a blockbuster. Gates has confirmed all that.
00:39:30.360
And Solomon said he's going to come back. I'm telling you, that story is a massive, massive,
00:39:34.420
massive story. Do I have Mike Davis? Not Mike Davis yet? Okay. We're going to try to get
00:39:39.520
him up. I have Mike here because I want Mike to also give his assessment of what went on
00:39:45.660
today with the Judiciary Committee in New York. Mike's been all over this with the Alvin
00:39:49.480
Bragg. And remember, the pincer movement, always remember the pincer movement. This is to
00:39:53.560
connect everything back to Merrick Garland's Justice Department. You got Mike going after Matthew
00:39:59.240
Colangelo. That's a big part of it. You also got Stephen Miller and the American First Legal
00:40:03.360
and others that are connecting what went on in the Mar-a-Lago situation, the special access
00:40:08.260
issue with the Biden administration and Biden knowing this and signing off on taking executive
00:40:14.200
privilege from President Trump, you know, unbeknownst. And like I say, in the timeline of
00:40:20.360
when they knew, when they were aware that Biden had these problems with his classified documents
00:40:24.140
are going to be absolutely critical. One of the things with Mike Davis, also, there isn't,
00:40:30.460
just so you understand, this is what I was trying to say this morning, this is getting as intense
00:40:34.360
as I've ever seen. And part of it is that they're coming after people in the most vicious way possible.
00:40:40.840
One of the best men, not just in the city, but one of the best men in modern America,
00:40:46.820
Justice Thomas, is under an assault like I've never seen before. ProPublica and others are coming
00:40:52.240
after him. And they're trying to put that front and center. They're saying, oh, there's got to be
00:40:56.080
impeachment hearings. There has to be an investigation already in the Senate. They're
00:40:58.700
talking about doing this. We wanted Mike Davis to be here and to assess it. So we're trying to get
00:41:03.580
him in the next block. The next hour is going to be pure insanity. I've got Colonel Mills has gone
00:41:08.920
through. We're going to talk about the cartels. A lot of talk about the cartels now. We actually kind
00:41:14.360
of roll out a, I'm not saying an operational plan to take them down, but at least you start to see
00:41:19.800
the interconnected links to the Chinese Communist Party, the interconnected links to fentanyl,
00:41:24.580
to what they're doing and where they actually control Mexico and why they are a massive
00:41:28.520
paramilitary power. Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. You've got to get the third part of the
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series, The Debt Trap. Here's why. Kevin McCarthy, the speech he gave today at the stock exchange,
00:41:40.440
then he went around and I got to tell you, McCarthy was on fire. That's CNBC. They were trying to,
00:41:45.540
they would never treat a Democrat like that. They came out of him and tried to chop block him and
00:41:50.180
man, he had the answers. But here's the key. Right now, as you just heard from Gates, we have to have
00:41:56.260
a budget that has massive cuts up front. There can be, we're dead enders here. Not one penny raised on
00:42:03.120
the debt ceiling because you don't need it. There's enough cash coming in from, quite frankly,
00:42:07.800
President Trump's tax cuts that drove economic growth in these industries. You're going to have
00:42:13.000
enough cash coming in to pay all the interest, to pay all the face amount of any government
00:42:17.220
securities. And then with these massive cuts, you're not going to need an increase of the debt
00:42:22.160
ceiling. But you've got to understand this. The place to start is birchgold. Go to birchgold.com.
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Get the three-part series now, The End of the Dollar Empire. Of course, everybody's talking about
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Communist Party and the Saudis and Brazil and Turkey and all of them. Qatar,
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to basically Iraq, who's going to take it in, take the oil in Yuan to get off the dollar. You
00:42:50.020
have to understand this. This is part of the macro economics. You have to understand. Okay,
00:42:54.280
we're going to take a short commercial break. There's a lot going on this afternoon. I've
00:42:57.420
never seen the news cycle like this. It's only going to get more intense. We're going to try
00:43:00.760
to get Mike Davis up. Next hour, we have Colonel John Mills. We have Naomi Wolf. We're going to have
00:43:06.500
the Gateway Pundit guys from Asia. They're going to be here. We've got Joe Allen teeing up the Elon
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Okay, on Getter tonight, we've got, I think we're starting at 8 o'clock. We've got,
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well, we've got, we're going to do the 60 Minutes. We're going to do Marjorie Taylor Greene. We're
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going to do Royce White. We're going to do Tucker Carlson Live at 8. It's disco. We got it up on
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our site right now. Check it out. You're going to have live commentary. I'm going to be dipping in
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and out. So it'll be fantastic. Mike Davis, we had a field exercise in New York City today,
00:45:45.220
a hearing that got a little, let's say this, intense. Your thoughts, sir?
00:45:50.960
I say cheers to House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan. We've had disagreements in the past over
00:45:57.100
big tech. Still have a disagreement on big tech, but we accept converts at the Internet Accountability
00:46:03.080
Project. He should support Senator Mike Lee's bill to break up Google's online advertising monopoly,
00:46:10.000
and we'll be in good shape with him there. But he got off to, Jim Jordan got off to a bumpy start,
00:46:15.740
slow bumpy start on oversight, but he is really firing on all cylinders. He's doing fantastic work.
00:46:21.580
This is really important work that he's doing because he's showing that Alvin Bragg, the Soros-funded
00:46:27.380
Manhattan DA, has politicized and weaponized the Manhattan DA's office to get Trump, and he's diverting
00:46:35.400
key resources away from real crimes like rapes and robbers and robberies and burglaries and carjackings.
00:46:43.100
And so it's really good that Jim Jordan was able to go up to Alvin Bragg's home turf and bring in
00:46:49.600
people from Manhattan who are the victims of Alvin Bragg's decision to go after Trump instead of real
00:46:56.540
crimes. Do you support them going to other cities and continue to do this? I love it. I think they
00:47:05.380
should take the show on the road any chance they can. This is great. I think it's always good to do
00:47:11.860
field hearings, get out of the swamp and go talk to the real people in real America. So yes, they should
00:47:18.140
go to Chicago. They should go to Atlanta with Fannie Willowstown in Fulton County. They should
00:47:27.360
I know someone that you think very highly of is under assault like I've never seen before. Somebody
00:47:34.020
on the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas. The onslaught continues, is not backing off, and now you're
00:47:40.200
hearing the name Abe Fortas come up. Walk through your assessment of where we are in this saga of
00:47:48.680
So I clerked on the Supreme Court for Justice Gorsuch, and I got to know Justice Thomas along
00:47:55.560
with his wife, Jenny Thomas, and they are great Americans. The left has hated Justice Thomas
00:48:01.660
for nearly 40 years. He was a Democrat. He was a Marxist, actually, in his youth, and he
00:48:08.860
was a radical, and he got mugged by reality. He became a conservative. He grew up dirt poor
00:48:15.840
in the segregated South, the Jim Crow South down in Pinpoint, Georgia, and the Democrats
00:48:21.420
have hated Clarence Thomas for 40 years because Clarence Thomas escaped the Democrat plantation,
00:48:28.360
and Jenny Thomas never worked in the Democrats' kitchen. So they hate the Thomases. They know
00:48:33.440
that President Trump transformed the 5-4 John Roberts Court to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas Court,
00:48:42.420
and he is, you know, he's hugely influential. His law clerks are serving as federal judges throughout
00:48:49.340
the federal judiciary on state Supreme Courts, key government posts around the country, and
00:48:56.180
the Democrats are just trying to take him out. Clarence Thomas has been best friends with
00:49:01.780
Harlan Crowe, a wealthy businessman, for 25 years, and Harlan Crowe has zero business before
00:49:08.180
the Supreme Court. Nothing, not a Zippo. And Democrats are trying to say that Harlan Crowe's,
00:49:15.320
the trips that Clarence Thomas took with Harlan Crowe are somehow unethical. They're not. He had
00:49:20.080
no business before the Supreme Court. Harlan Crowe also bought property down in Pinpoint that belonged
00:49:26.740
to the Thomas family because Harlan, Clarence Thomas was going to sell it, according to the CNN reporting
00:49:32.220
today by Ariane DeVogue, a very fair Supreme Court reporter at CNN, one of the few. And Harlan wanted
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to preserve this for a museum for Clarence Thomas down the road. And so Clarence Thomas took a loss.
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He sold this property that his mother was living in, his mother is living in, at a loss. It came with an
00:49:50.300
occupancy agreement, according to the CNN report. And the Democrats are trying to turn this into a
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scandal, calling for his impeachment, calling for investigations. It's nonsense. I know there is
00:50:02.360
a Democrat Supreme Court justice on the bench right now who has taken many, many, many regular
00:50:08.480
summer trips to a lawyer's beach house in Massachusetts, fancy beach house in Massachusetts,
00:50:14.440
when this lawyer has business before the Supreme Court, including filing before the Supreme Court,
00:50:19.480
and this lawyer sits on a board of a Fortune 5 company that has business before the Supreme Court all
00:50:25.040
the time. This Democrat-appointed justice didn't disclose these trips. No one's calling for this
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Democrat justice's resignation. But they're going after Clarence Thomas because we have a Democrat
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White House and a Democrat Senate, and they want to chase him off the bench. And there's no way in
00:50:41.300
hell they're going to chase Clarence Thomas off the bench. Well, how could the Republicans even stop
00:50:46.420
the Judiciary Committee from having an investigation? Is there any way to do that? Is the Senate Judiciary,
00:50:51.000
you think, going to open an investigation on this and have hearings? Well, I mean,
00:50:55.040
they should be careful what they ask for because we have Clarence Thomas who took trips with his
00:51:02.120
best friend with no business before the Supreme Court. At the same time, Joe Biden's taken his
00:51:07.240
scumbag son Hunter on trips to Ireland when Hunter has a track record of illegal, corrupt foreign dealings
00:51:15.080
to bring in millions of dollars for the Biden family. So I think Democrats should be careful what
00:51:19.700
they ask for because Republicans in the House have subpoena power. And maybe they want Hunter
00:51:24.780
Biden sitting in front of the bright lights of a committee hearing. Mike Davis, how do people get
00:51:31.760
all the content that you're putting up all day long, social media and also your site, sir?
00:51:35.980
Yeah, it's article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project,
00:51:41.780
article3project, at article3project on Getter Twitter Truth. And my personal is at MRD and then
00:51:50.160
another DMIA, MRDDMIA. And thank you, Steve. Mike Davis, thank you for being on here and helping us
00:51:59.700
understand this assault on one of the best men in this country, Justice Clarence Thomas. Okay,
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short break. We're going to be back. The next hour is going to strap in. It's going to be pretty
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intense, but we're going to get through it all. We're going to take a short commercial break.
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that out. And of course, Joe Allen's going to be here. Big interview tonight. Tucker Carlson and Elon
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