Bannon's War Room - Episode 2709： Lies Of The EPA; The Failing Of The US Navy

00:00:00.880 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:05.800 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:07.880 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:10.920 Here's the time I got a free shot

00:00:12.160 at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.160 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.160 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:18.560 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:20.280 but you're not gonna stop it.

00:00:21.200 It's going to happen.

00:00:22.480 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:25.840 MAGA Media.

00:00:27.280 I wish in my soul,

00:00:29.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.640 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.480 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:39.600 this country will be saved.

00:00:42.680 War Room.

00:00:43.680 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.840 EPA is supposed to be on our side.

00:00:53.560 So we went, I went to have these explained

00:00:56.280 because they threw so many more aerators,

00:00:58.720 as soon as they started digging up the site.

00:01:01.200 The second, you know, when they were told to pull up the tracks,

00:01:05.360 they said that they are releasing with every shovel full,

00:01:08.200 releasing butylacrylate and other chemicals in the air up there,

00:01:11.440 and it's coming down the creek.

00:01:13.360 So I have filmed weekly on a weekly basis in this creek since this happened.

00:01:18.200 And as they are digging, more chemicals are coming.

00:01:21.840 And when they put these up here, they're spewing chemicals into the air.

00:01:25.680 So I went there specifically to ask for air monitors.

00:01:28.160 What is missing right here?

00:01:29.520 There is not an air monitor by any of those machines.

00:01:32.320 If this was a regular construction crew, this site would be shut down.

00:01:36.160 There are kids playing right here, breathing in those chemicals, playing in the creek.

00:01:40.480 There's no fences.

00:01:41.440 There should be a cyclone fence, and there should be signs,

00:01:45.760 enter at your own risk where deadly chemicals are hazardous chemicals in the air.

00:01:50.160 It is actually, it's, what is the word?

00:01:55.040 Negligence.

00:01:55.800 It's negligence.

00:01:57.360 Criminal negligence.

00:01:59.120 Let me ask you, if they came to you and laid through the program or the process,

00:02:04.140 because there's two things here.

00:02:05.060 One is exactly what they're trying to accomplish.

00:02:07.440 The other is how they execute on it, right, with the fences and keeping kids away.

00:02:11.000 If they came and made a presentation to a town hall,

00:02:14.340 you guys could attend and ask questions and walk through the process, right,

00:02:18.460 if they would do that.

00:02:19.280 They have not done that today.

00:02:20.360 I said from the beginning, why doesn't the Army Corps of Engineers come here

00:02:23.280 and dig up and dredge up the creek?

00:02:24.780 Like, they say they can't do it because they said as they're working on the crash site

00:02:29.000 more chemicals are coming.

00:02:30.140 Why don't they dam it up and reroute, go around the crash site and bring the water

00:02:34.700 and just eliminate it and dredge up the creek?

00:02:37.480 The head of the Environmental Protection Agency says toxic threats he's seen

00:02:41.600 in communities like East Palestine, Ohio, are unacceptable in our country.

00:02:47.520 That whole town is a chemical cocktail, and we're all lab rats.

00:02:51.760 You're just looking at some of the ones who have been marked.

00:02:54.780 Today, EPA Administrator Michael Regan testified today before the Senate Appropriations Committee

00:03:02.720 about the agency's budget request.

00:03:05.500 Regan's comments come as News Nation has learned that residents in East Palestine,

00:03:09.960 Ohio, are dealing with what one expert calls the fentanyl of chemicals.

00:03:14.640 I've spoken to families who've been sickened by the air they breathe.

00:03:19.000 I've met with people who live with toxic waste in their backyard,

00:03:22.480 and I've seen conditions that are simply unacceptable in the United States of America.

00:03:26.840 That was EPA Administrator Michael Regan.

00:03:32.480 Questions still remain over who authorized a controlled burn following the Norfolk Southern

00:03:37.780 train derailment three months ago.

00:03:39.980 News Nation investigative correspondent Rich McHugh is on the ground tonight in East Palestine, Ohio.

00:03:45.560 Hey, Rich.

00:03:46.080 Hey, Elizabeth.

00:03:48.920 The big lingering question here in this toxic disaster is who ordered the controlled release,

00:03:54.620 the slow burn of the vinyl chloride into the atmosphere here?

00:03:58.280 Norfolk Southern says it was a decision made with Ohio officials and the EPA.

00:04:02.360 The EPA says they were not consulted, and this was a decision that they did not sign off on.

00:04:09.960 Now, we're learning more on who drove this decision.

00:04:14.720 On February 7th, three days after the Norfolk Southern train derailment in East Palestine,

00:04:19.920 Norfolk Southern conducted what it called a controlled burn,

00:04:23.280 releasing 116,000 gallons of vinyl chloride into the air.

00:04:27.240 Former EPA Administrator Judith Enk.

00:04:29.700 I think that was a mistake.

00:04:31.260 I'm looking very closely at who made the decision to set the vinyl chloride on fire.

00:04:37.200 I think that decision will be a major factor in the lives of many communities in Pennsylvania

00:04:47.040 and Ohio, not just East Palestine.

00:04:49.860 On February 14th, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine said he was among those involved in the decision.

00:04:55.140 We then made the decision to go ahead with the second option, which was the controlled release.

00:05:01.760 But on March 9th, Norfolk Southern CEO Alan Shaw told Congress this.

00:05:06.220 That decision was made by Unified Command under the direction of the incident commander.

00:05:12.680 Who's that?

00:05:14.800 The incident commander was Fire Chief Drabeck.

00:05:17.260 News Nation has reached out to Fire Chief Drabeck, but he has not responded.

00:05:20.520 And it's unclear who had the legal authority to order a controlled burn.

00:05:24.460 Having him make that monumental decision doesn't seem logical to me.

00:05:30.960 Further, I was on a meeting with the EPA recently and asked them why they signed off on the decision

00:05:41.180 to do the open burn, and they told me they did not sign off.

00:05:46.900 The EPA told me that they were not asked about whether or not to do the open burn of vinyl chloride

00:05:54.380 and that they were not part of that decision.

00:05:57.120 And testimony from Eric Brewer, Director of Emergency Services for Beaver County,

00:06:02.000 suggests it was Norfolk Southern who recommended burning the vinyl chloride.

00:06:05.880 We learned that Norfolk Southern wanted to do a controlled detonation of the tank car in question.

00:06:10.580 We were assured this was the safest way to mitigate the problem.

00:06:14.280 During one of those planning meetings, we learned from Norfolk Southern

00:06:17.080 that they now wanted to do the controlled detonation on five of the tank cars rather than just the one.

00:06:22.860 This changed the entire plan as it would now impact a much larger area.

00:06:26.740 In a statement to News Nation, Norfolk Southern writes,

00:06:29.320 Norfolk Southern alerted incident command of the potential for a catastrophic explosion

00:06:33.380 and advised a controlled release as the safest option.

00:06:36.580 The final decision to execute their plan was made Monday morning by the incident commander

00:06:40.460 after discussions and consultation with Governor DeWine, Governor Shapiro,

00:06:44.780 Ohio state agencies, Pennsylvania state agencies, the U.S. EPA, us,

00:06:49.500 and, of course, those local first responders.

00:06:54.260 Now, I've spoken with the EPA, and we are expecting a statement from them.

00:06:57.800 But to reiterate, the EPA says they were not consulted and that they did not sign off on this.

00:07:03.000 The big question is why.

00:07:04.480 Okay, Thursday, 4 May, year of our Lord, 2023.

00:07:09.860 We told you we're going to keep hammering.

00:07:11.600 And for the folks in East Palestine, we're going to keep hammering. 1.00

00:07:13.740 Because now they are focused around the issues we told you they had to be focused around.

00:07:17.660 And everybody's pointing the finger in a different direction.

00:07:19.640 The EPA has come out with a statement.

00:07:22.480 I want to bring in Jeff Clark.

00:07:23.900 And Jeff was assistant attorney general in charge of this kind of entire area,

00:07:28.200 particularly refereeing with the EPA, and he was the one that laid out a couple of months ago

00:07:32.440 exactly what was supposed to happen.

00:07:34.800 There's still too much fuzziness in nomenclature.

00:07:40.160 There was a controlled release, quote-unquote, into the ditch of the liquid,

00:07:44.360 of which they added the different cars.

00:07:46.160 Because they said if you didn't do that, it was going to blow up and send shards everywhere of iron everywhere and steel.

00:07:53.500 And then once it was in the ditch, there was a, quote-unquote, controlled burn

00:07:57.360 to put it into the atmosphere.

00:07:59.140 So two things.

00:08:00.820 They've got the, now they focus, as you said, Jeff Clark, in the incident commander,

00:08:04.320 but they're sticking it on the poor fire chief.

00:08:06.240 Let me be brutally frank.

00:08:08.260 The fire chief, it's so far above his pay grade and his billet to make that decision.

00:08:13.520 That's just an outright lie.

00:08:15.500 Talk to us about what we know as of today, Jeff Clark, how you've nailed this,

00:08:19.640 and where do we go from here, sir?

00:08:22.180 Sure, Steve.

00:08:22.940 Well, thanks for having me on about this.

00:08:24.560 And it's important to just keep hammering this, as you say, for the people of East Palestine.

00:08:29.860 Let's take a step back and look at how this has evolved, right?

00:08:33.700 So Norfolk Southern says that the fire chief was the incident commander.

00:08:37.960 He made the call to do the controlled burn and the release to the ditch, okay?

00:08:42.760 That's questionable in and of itself, but that's what they said.

00:08:45.320 And that's what they also told the Senate, right? 0.99

00:08:47.780 Next, we had the folks from DOT, I think, you know, at Pete Buttigieg's attempt to kind of cover his ass,

00:08:57.720 telling CNN that the EPA administrator made the call to, and the EPA people made the call to do that controlled burn, okay?

00:09:04.920 Then we have the fact that EPA says they did not do it, that it was Norfolk Southern, okay?

00:09:13.720 And then we have the Pennsylvania witness you just showed at the end of the clips saying that Norfolk Southern did it, right?

00:09:19.760 So you have, like, a complete circular motion as to who supposedly did this.

00:09:24.720 They're all pointing fingers at each other, and there are two witnesses who say that it was Norfolk Southern who did this,

00:09:31.140 and then you have the agencies involved.

00:09:32.600 But hang on, but hang on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop.

00:09:35.440 Norfolk Southern has no authority in this position whatsoever.

00:09:39.400 As soon as it crashes, it goes off the rail, you go to the National Response Center.

00:09:43.420 Walk me through the chain of command here.

00:09:45.220 It goes to the National Response Center automatically, by definition, the National Response Center.

00:09:50.560 You have an, then it goes back, it has an incident commander, right?

00:09:54.680 That incident commander, correct me if I'm wrong, is a senior EPA official.

00:09:58.860 I just want to walk through, that is the regulation in black and white, is it not, sir?

00:10:06.340 That is.

00:10:07.060 So there's a statute on point, as I pointed out before to you, Steve.

00:10:10.420 It's the Clean Water Act, Section 311C, and it specifically directs that the president shall direct all response actions,

00:10:20.600 federal, state, and private, and private.

00:10:24.080 And then there's an executive order that delegates that power either to the Coast Guard,

00:10:30.240 if you're talking about something that's, you know, off on the sea,

00:10:32.940 or to here, because you're talking about an inland water, to EPA.

00:10:36.980 So EPA is where the delegation rests.

00:10:40.220 EPA is in charge of how to do the response.

00:10:43.660 So EPA can't just sit back and let Norfolk Southern drive the train, as it were.

00:10:50.960 And you have this former EPA official, and now EPA itself, basically admitting that they did not follow the law,

00:10:58.360 that they let Norfolk Southern do that.

00:11:01.320 So that's expedient for them, because they can try to say, oh, it's Norfolk Southern, and point the finger at them.

00:11:07.500 But it's simultaneously admitting that they did not carry through with their duties under the law.

00:11:13.460 They violated their duties under the law.

00:11:15.820 And that former EPA official you saw in the clips, Judith, she needs to talk to the EPA IG as soon as possible

00:11:24.060 to give her perspective about how this should have happened and how the story makes no sense.

00:11:29.100 She also needs to be interviewed by the criminal lawyers that Governor Shapiro said he was going to sick on this.

00:11:36.300 So this is, you know, a bombshell piece of new information, Steve.

00:11:41.200 And whatever way you look at it, EPA either, you know, fell down under their duties under the law

00:11:48.080 or they're just trying to engage in a CYA exercise.

00:11:53.520 The point I was making in East Palestine is that you pay $6 trillion a year for this.

00:11:59.620 The EPA is going to be the biggest one that they come out whining about that you can't cut it, you can't cut it, you can't cut it.

00:12:04.520 But what is their function then?

00:12:06.660 This, I would argue, is their most important function among everything.

00:12:10.980 When a hazardous material event happens, the EPA is supposed to be the on-scene commander.

00:12:16.440 Yes, they do a lot of things in regulation.

00:12:18.020 They're checking creeks all the time and, you know, checking all this environmental stuff, whether it makes sense or not.

00:12:23.040 I got that.

00:12:23.760 They're bureaucrats, the administrative state.

00:12:25.340 But this is really – this is where they're called into action in the defining moment, right?

00:12:32.860 This is what they're supposed to be – the task and purpose of the EPA in the moment of a catastrophe and disaster is to be the on-scene commander.

00:12:43.160 The on-scene commander representing the president of the United States, correct?

00:12:50.280 This is what they do.

00:12:51.220 How can they have all this shuffling around and Reagan sitting there and he's crying and saying, you know, they're so important.

00:12:57.500 Our job is – heck, he was on a plane over to Africa to go on some boondoggle over there on the cult of climate change. 0.99

00:13:05.080 He doesn't give a crap. 0.99

00:13:06.660 And who's in charge of this? 0.99

00:13:08.020 Is it the Commerce Committee?

00:13:09.760 Is it oversight?

00:13:11.040 Why is nobody – how come these guys haven't been in a keel hall?

00:13:13.920 And why did the staffs let Norfolk Southern off the hook?

00:13:17.460 Why did the Republican staffs not already have this vetted?

00:13:20.380 Heck, if War Room can do this two months ago, why can't congressional staffs do it?

00:13:24.900 Why are these guys, like, leaning on their rakes, brother?

00:13:27.080 Well, Steve, look, I think they've been focused on the genesis of the accident and how to try to make sure that you don't have these train derailments.

00:13:36.680 And that's obviously an important issue.

00:13:38.980 But it's not the only issue.

00:13:40.760 This issue that we've been focused on and putting our finger on deeply for months has been who ordered this controlled burn.

00:13:48.480 And you just heard in the clips you played in the cold open an EPA official, former regional administrator of Region 2, say, you know, this seems like a mistaken decision.

00:13:58.620 This is not the right decision to have made.

00:14:00.720 Did they even do any analysis, right?

00:14:02.860 This is what the IG at EPA needs to get to the bottom of.

00:14:06.080 And it's also what the Senate EPW committee should be getting to the bottom of.

00:14:10.580 It's important for them, you know, to try to minimize and reduce the number of train derailments.

00:14:15.500 But this issue of EPA mismanagement is just terrible.

00:14:19.140 This is 10 times bigger.

00:14:20.600 This is 100 times bigger.

00:14:21.900 Jeff, I'm going to ask you to stay for a second because I want to talk to you about I think the Trump legal team picked up something you said on War Room a couple of weeks ago in this Bragg situation.

00:14:32.000 I want to get to that.

00:14:33.540 Seb Gorka is going to join us.

00:14:34.720 But we also have Julie Kelly. 0.99

00:14:35.920 Obviously, huge breaking news today in the Proud Boys situation.

00:14:39.800 We're going to break at 530.

00:14:41.100 Julie's going to take the rest of the show. 1.00

00:14:42.360 We're going to break it all down.

00:14:43.340 Because they're going to use this to come after President Donald J. Trump.

00:14:47.860 We're going to get to all of it.

00:14:49.000 Jeff Clark's going to hang over for a few minutes.

00:14:50.740 Seb Gorka next in the War Room.

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00:16:37.760 Okay, welcome back.

00:16:38.960 Um, we just made history a little while ago at the close of the market.

00:16:43.900 First time in history, 100%, 100% of all regional bank stocks finish in the red today, 100%.

00:16:51.960 After the day after Pal tells you, I'd saw a spanking system safe. 0.65

00:16:56.800 Jamie Dimon, banking system safe.

00:16:59.140 This thing's over when I bought First Republic.

00:17:02.060 Janet Yellen, banking system solid.

00:17:04.720 Joe Biden, banking system safe.

00:17:06.400 100% and some of the, some of the implosions.

00:17:10.960 Western Alliance, which we now found out was trying to sell itself.

00:17:15.100 Pacific West.

00:17:17.400 Um, the regional banks in the, wait till these, they start adding in, which they haven't done yet.

00:17:24.500 The commercial real estate market.

00:17:25.940 This is what Joe Biden, all you, particularly people under 30, under 40 voted for Joe Biden.

00:17:32.700 Uh, what I call the modern day, the 21st century Russian serfs. 1.00

00:17:37.360 You don't own anything.

00:17:38.540 You ain't going to anything.

00:17:39.940 CNBC's got this big story today.

00:17:41.620 Two thirds, 66% of renters don't want to buy.

00:17:45.180 They're happy renting.

00:17:45.900 Well, you better be happy renting.

00:17:46.940 You don't have enough money to buy.

00:17:48.500 Don't give me, you don't want to buy.

00:17:49.720 I don't care if what you want to do.

00:17:51.060 You can't do, you can't do cause you're living like a pauper.

00:17:54.600 And one of the reasons you're living like a pauper, you're voting for it.

00:17:58.700 So embrace it, enjoy it.

00:18:01.160 You like it.

00:18:02.500 Going to get worse.

00:18:04.320 Going to get a whole lot worse.

00:18:07.660 No.

00:18:07.920 And Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders misdirection play that hapless, hapless freak.

00:18:14.660 He's controlled opposite.

00:18:15.780 Anybody, anybody's a populist on the left has not figured out that Bernie Sanders is

00:18:20.980 controlled opposition 100%.

00:18:23.760 You're not paying attention.

00:18:26.680 He's running around with a $17 minimum wage.

00:18:29.540 That's the solution is a $17 minimum wage.

00:18:31.900 Okie dokie, Bernie.

00:18:33.520 Bernie had two chances to take on the Clinton globalist apparatus and you blinked.

00:18:38.920 No, you didn't blink.

00:18:39.620 You didn't even get close enough to blink.

00:18:40.820 You sucked your thumb and you went over and you crawled in the fetal position in the corner. 1.00

00:18:44.840 You're a disgrace. 1.00

00:18:47.220 Anybody's a Bernie bro, you're a clown. 1.00

00:18:49.860 And here's the thing. 1.00

00:18:50.760 You're going to be a poor clown while you're working like a drone to make the wealthier wealthier. 0.99

00:18:56.980 Ok? 0.99

00:18:57.600 Which is also with the Democratic Party.

00:18:59.760 I want to tax all the wealthy.

00:19:02.640 The super wealthy.

00:19:03.780 Because they're all progressive left Democrats.

00:19:05.460 Why would we not do that?

00:19:06.300 They hate you.

00:19:07.480 They hate Trump.

00:19:08.980 They're talking about Trump as big.

00:19:09.880 There's no big guys backing Trump.

00:19:12.140 The big guys in the Republican Party, our left, are all backing DeSantis, although they're getting jiggy.

00:19:19.500 The super wealthy are all progressive left atheists that believe in this agenda.

00:19:27.820 And we're going to get to this in a second.

00:19:28.820 I had Seb Gorka as one of the great strategic minds in our time on here to talk about the Kremlin and to talk about the drone strike and talk about geopolitics and geostrategy.

00:19:39.460 But no, Seb comes on and says, no, Bannon, we've got to talk about your Navy and the Bud Light-ism of the United States Navy.

00:19:46.820 So we're going to do that.

00:19:47.500 We're going to get Seb on here for a second.

00:19:48.440 Jeff Clark, somebody in the Trump orbit and legal are listening, watching the war room because they took your theory of the case with Bragg, and they're now trying to take it to a federal court.

00:19:59.760 Walk me through this.

00:20:01.700 Sure.

00:20:02.060 So, Steve, there's something I don't think a lot of local prosecutors or even state prosecutors know about, which is there's something called the Federal Officer Removal Statute in 28 U.S.C.

00:20:11.740 1442, and Bragg, from that perspective, made the mistake of making his entire indictment about incidents, events that occurred after Donald Trump became president, and he has this still kind of not fully fleshed out theory of it being tied to getting elected to federal office.

00:20:31.180 So there's clearly a connection between his indictment and Donald Trump's holding of the highest office under the U.S. Constitution.

00:20:38.140 That gives Donald Trump and his team the right to remove that case to federal court, and based on New York Times reporting today, it looks like they're going to exercise that option, and they're going to pull the case out of the Manhattan court, local court there, and they're going to pull it into a federal court.

00:20:56.980 And I already saw Occupy Democrats whining about that on Twitter, you know, retweet if you disagree with this decision and think it's a maneuver, et cetera.

00:21:06.760 Well, it's a procedural right that Congress granted in order to protect federal officials essentially from being hometowned in jurisdictions where they may essentially be taken advantage of. 0.72

00:21:18.240 And Alvin Bragg has pleaded himself right into that issue by focusing on events that are all 2017, post-January 20th, 2017, or later.

00:21:27.520 Jeff, amazing job you've done in the EPA and for the folks in East Palestine, and great job here on deconstructing this. 1.00

00:21:36.680 I know you've got a lot more of the thoughts and other stuff we're going to cover.

00:21:39.580 But how can people – you're over there, one of the partners with RussVote, doing the Lord's work.

00:21:43.840 How do people get to you at the center, and how do they get to you on social media?

00:21:46.480 So the center is americarenewing.com, Steve, the Center for Renewing America that's behind me here on the logo.

00:21:54.120 And I'm at jeffclarkus on Getter and Twitter and at realjeffclark on Truth Social.

00:22:00.760 Thanks, Steve.

00:22:03.200 Jeff, thank you very much.

00:22:04.440 Thank you for coming on.

00:22:05.400 Do I have the clip?

00:22:07.060 Is the clip ready?

00:22:08.960 Okay, can we play a clip before I get seven here to upset me no end?

00:22:12.340 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

00:22:13.120 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

00:22:16.480 There's actually a worse clip than that, if we can try to dig it up.

00:22:34.600 There's one worse than that.

00:22:37.280 It's actually worse than that.

00:22:38.860 If anything could be worse than that.

00:22:40.720 And we've got the guy who was the shooter of Osama bin Laden, a Navy SEAL, saying,

00:22:45.620 hey, did I put myself in harm's way for this?

00:22:49.340 Seb Gorka, and you're right, we could talk about the geostrategy of all this,

00:22:53.900 but when we talk about the defense of Taiwan, the chip plants, the Straits of Taiwan, the South China Sea,

00:23:00.260 it gets down to the Seventh Fleet.

00:23:02.320 Does this give you a sense?

00:23:04.820 You won't explain to the audience what we just watched.

00:23:06.540 Does this give you a sense that the Seventh Fleet is combat ready to take on the People's Liberation Navy? 0.89

00:23:12.800 Yeah, you need to watch the full vomitous video of this pervert who changes in and out of women's clothing 1.00

00:23:21.440 and a naval combat uniform, because as Secretary Wilkie, who served in both the Navy and the Air Force,

00:23:28.700 pointed out on my show today, parts of that video, Steve, are filmed on a U.S. naval vessel.

00:23:35.960 Now, that's a crime.

00:23:37.260 The UCMJ is clear.

00:23:38.820 Naval regulations are clear.

00:23:40.440 There can be no sexually explicit activity on a naval vessel, and it's being done by somebody in drag. 1.00

00:23:48.900 When I first saw this, I thought this was like trolling.

00:23:52.600 I thought this was a deep fake, and it was just meant to get a rise out of patriots and conservatives, but it's not.

00:23:58.480 The U.S. Navy direct commissioned a drag queen to become a recruiter for the most powerful navy in the world, 1.00

00:24:06.000 the only navy with 12 nuclear aircraft carriers, and it's not an accident.

00:24:11.380 It goes to the top.

00:24:12.420 I've been ragging on this person for two years now.

00:24:14.940 The chief of naval operations, Admiral Gilday, this five-foot-nothing insult to the U.S. Navy,

00:24:24.760 pushed a video around the whole fleet, a 12-minute video, in combats, in his uniform, 0.90

00:24:31.280 talking about the excessive racism in the U.S. Navy, just literally kneeling and performing fellatio on the BLM movement 0.86

00:24:41.780 as the chief of naval operations, and what happens two years later? 0.94

00:24:46.120 Now we have a drag queen on one of our fighting vessels, a man dressed as a woman. 1.00

00:24:52.160 Now, I don't know.

00:24:52.600 You keep talking about me being the national security advisor for the next Trump administration,

00:24:57.000 and it was great to see you.

00:24:58.760 Congratulations.

00:24:59.660 You know, the band's getting back together with the president of Mar-a-Lago.

00:25:02.600 I want to know what you're going to do, because you better not be hosting the war room.

00:25:06.120 I want you back in service to the nation and firing all the flag officers like Gilday

00:25:14.320 who are responsible for weakening America like nobody has ever done, 0.56

00:25:19.200 not like the Soviets, not like double agents.

00:25:22.740 Somebody needs to do that.

00:25:23.880 I think you should do that, Steve.

00:25:26.460 No, no, no, no, no.

00:25:27.600 You haven't seen my master plan. 0.89

00:25:28.920 After I take out the evil dwarf that is Rupert Murdoch and Foxes with like a dollar, 1.00

00:25:35.820 like it should be, we're going to take it over and change it from TV for stupid people 1.00

00:25:41.240 to war room kind of brilliance. 1.00

00:25:43.240 That's what we're going to do.

00:25:43.860 Well, you guys are slaving away.

00:25:45.840 President Trump can see me every night on TV, and I'm just kidding.

00:25:50.040 But let's go back.

00:25:50.900 TV for the hobbits.

00:25:52.080 Don't bury the...

00:25:52.840 TV for the hobbits.

00:25:54.340 TV.

00:25:54.700 The hobbits need it, and the hobbits are the power.

00:25:57.940 Remember, the hobbits always win in the end.

00:26:00.180 But don't bury the lead.

00:26:01.540 Don't bury the lead.

00:26:02.400 Don't bury the lead.

00:26:03.460 They reached out.

00:26:04.420 This guy is...

00:26:06.500 They're 8,000 recruits short for meeting their manning goals.

00:26:11.280 8,000.

00:26:12.360 A surprise.

00:26:13.420 And what do they do?

00:26:14.600 Instead of looking for red-blooded American men and women, 0.99

00:26:17.840 what do they do about going back to the honor of John Paul Jones?

00:26:21.840 I have not yet begun to fight the great fighting tradition of the greatest Navy

00:26:27.420 the world's ever seen.

00:26:28.380 Even better, I would argue, than the Royal Navy at the top of their game.

00:26:32.220 What do they do?

00:26:33.300 No.

00:26:33.840 They go out and commission a guy who dresses up as a woman 0.67

00:26:38.760 to do sexually provocative things and mock everybody,

00:26:43.600 mock our traditions, mock the Judeo-Christian West, 1.00

00:26:46.360 mock the fighting spirit of the Navy to be a recruiting influencer.

00:26:50.120 They think that's going to close the gap, Seb?

00:26:55.740 I'll just quote.

00:26:57.160 I just sat down for an hour with Travis Haley,

00:27:00.720 who was a Marine Force Recon officer,

00:27:04.400 tentors, 100% disabled. 0.57

00:27:08.440 And he just said,

00:27:09.700 this is what I became 100% disabled for.

00:27:14.660 This is what I injured myself irrevocably,

00:27:18.720 did things in theater that destroyed my family,

00:27:22.800 gave me mental and physical anguish for the rest of my life.

00:27:26.060 This is why I did it.

00:27:28.780 You know better than anyone, the Cold War, right?

00:27:32.420 There's the double agents, the Kim Philbys, the Aldrich Ames, the Hansons.

00:27:38.700 But the real power the Soviet Union had

00:27:41.760 were the people who influenced policy willingly.

00:27:45.420 Not the secret agents,

00:27:47.300 those who shaped openly pro-Soviet policies.

00:27:52.020 When Ted Kennedy is doing a back channel to Khrushchev,

00:27:56.620 to Brezhnev saying,

00:27:58.600 hey, if there's anything I can do to help you,

00:28:02.520 you know, so Reagan doesn't get re-elected. 1.00

00:28:05.320 He's not getting paid by the Kremlin.

00:28:07.140 Not that I know.

00:28:08.560 He's doing it willingly, Steve.

00:28:10.920 These are the disease vectors inside the system.

00:28:15.360 Hang on one second.

00:28:18.140 I'm going to hold Seb for a couple of minutes on the other side.

00:28:20.200 No, he's got to bounce.

00:28:21.540 Julie Kelly's here to lay it down for us. 0.97

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00:29:58.640 Stephen K.

00:29:59.560 Bannon.

00:30:03.560 Okay.

00:30:04.740 Seb Gorka, this drone strike either did or did not happen.

00:30:09.340 It was either done by the Ukrainians, the Russians, the Americans.

00:30:13.200 But it looks like it's more and more real every day.

00:30:16.160 What are your thoughts, sir?

00:30:18.060 Look, a couple of options.

00:30:19.380 First things first.

00:30:20.080 If you're doing a drone strike, you should probably attack the place where your target

00:30:26.140 actually is.

00:30:27.680 Putin doesn't live in the Kremlin.

00:30:29.540 He doesn't sleep in the Kremlin.

00:30:30.880 This happened at night. 0.61

00:30:31.860 So it's the most incompetent assassination attempt we've ever seen. 0.74

00:30:36.060 Or it's the Russians trying to, you know, up the anti domestically.

00:30:40.660 And also, you don't detonate it above the site.

00:30:43.380 You try and actually kind of hit the site.

00:30:45.060 Whether it was the Ukrainians, just a double middle finger to red square, I don't know. 1.00

00:30:53.720 But hearing Kirby at the podium do his usual.

00:30:58.020 Maybe Kirby should put on a dress. 1.00

00:30:59.760 Maybe his performances would be better, Steve.

00:31:01.640 What do you think?

00:31:05.620 I think that we're very close with the spring offensive to escalating this thing terribly,

00:31:10.640 Seb.

00:31:10.900 And I think this is going to be a big issue and it's not going to end well.

00:31:14.040 Your thoughts?

00:31:14.640 I'll say one thing.

00:31:16.140 I was listening to a Russian analyst last night, a video analyst of the drone attack.

00:31:22.480 And he said, whether or not this is Ukrainian or Russian is irrelevant.

00:31:27.840 If this war continues, Ukrainians will take action on Russian soil, which is an interesting 1.00

00:31:35.600 analysis.

00:31:36.100 If you've been invaded by an external force, sooner or later, wars tend to spread in that

00:31:43.760 direction that the invading force pays the price.

00:31:47.440 So whether or not this drone is Ukrainian is irrespective.

00:31:51.100 This war will continue.

00:31:52.480 Thanks to the Holomodor, the Ukrainians will fight to the last 12-year-old with a sharpened 1.00

00:31:56.600 stick.

00:31:56.940 And as a result, actual, real conflict, not false flag operations on Russian soil probably

00:32:04.760 will be inevitable.

00:32:06.440 I heard in the break who you're going to have on next and I just right now in front of all

00:32:09.820 the hobbits of the Shire, all the MAGA loyalists out there.

00:32:13.460 I want to salute Julie Kelly for everything she has done at American Greatness and for telling

00:32:18.880 the truth about January 6th and our political prisoners.

00:32:23.140 Amazing.

00:32:23.960 We got Julie Kelly and Bishop Schneider back to back.

00:32:26.540 So it's quite, we're going to go quite a, quite a Catholic role here.

00:32:30.000 Seb, how do people get to all your content?

00:32:32.920 We are everywhere except the fascistic YouTube.

00:32:35.640 So Rumble, America First, Sebastian Gorka.

00:32:38.760 You can watch us at my website, sebgorka.com.

00:32:41.880 We are on all the podcast channels, Stitcher, you name it, Apple, and of course, all the

00:32:48.400 social media.

00:32:49.140 Look for Seb Gorka or Sebastian Gorka, Truth Social, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Parler,

00:32:53.920 Getter, Telegram, and my sub stack for exclusive content, including analysis on the war in Ukraine

00:32:59.800 is sebastiangorka.substack.com.

00:33:03.680 See you later, Steve.

00:33:04.880 I get tired.

00:33:05.640 I get, I get tired.

00:33:07.260 I'll see you later tonight, Seb.

00:33:08.480 Thanks.

00:33:08.820 What?

00:33:09.460 You get tired of what?

00:33:10.360 You get tired of me?

00:33:11.100 Nothing.

00:33:11.460 I, I know.

00:33:12.740 No, no, no.

00:33:13.280 I get, I get tired when you get all those, you get like 30 sites.

00:33:16.380 You're the, you're the hardest working guy in showbiz.

00:33:18.560 I got to stop being a piker.

00:33:20.040 I got to tell my team.

00:33:20.780 I got to be on, if I'm on 30 stuff, that's two hours of night.

00:33:23.720 That's two hours you sleep every night.

00:33:25.660 Stop being such a slacker.

00:33:28.100 I got, hold it, I got a solution.

00:33:30.200 Get Seb back in the White House of National Security Advisor and let me dominate media as we

00:33:34.400 know it.

00:33:35.000 Thank you, brother.

00:33:36.180 See you tonight.

00:33:36.740 Thank you.

00:33:37.320 See you later.

00:33:37.700 Dr. Seb Gorka and his lovely wife, who's the smarter of the two.

00:33:42.240 She's a genius.

00:33:44.100 Julie Kelly.

00:33:45.360 Okay.

00:33:45.580 Should we play a cold open?

00:33:47.060 I got a little cold open.

00:33:48.660 Let me do, let me do a little clip and get Julie in here. 1.00

00:33:51.140 She's going to, Julie's going to give it to you with a bark on today. 0.98

00:33:54.400 So let's go ahead and play the clip and bring in Julie. 1.00

00:33:56.800 So there is a huge domestic terrorism problem in this country, as the Department of Justice

00:34:03.320 and the FBI understand.

00:34:05.980 That is one of the reasons, as was just noted, this is such an important victory for not just

00:34:12.880 the Justice Department, but for all of us to combat the idea that you can not just voice

00:34:19.340 your opinions, but you can do so through violence.

00:34:21.640 This is now the 14th conviction of the most serious charge, seditious conspiracy, which

00:34:27.960 did where we had nine convictions with respect to Oath Keepers.

00:34:33.240 We now have had five convictions with respect to the Proud Boys.

00:34:37.300 I do think it amps the pressure up on Jack Smith because so far the leader, the person who

00:34:45.660 caused all of this to take place has not yet been charged.

00:34:49.260 And so the question of should there be charges against the former president becomes one that

00:34:55.680 I think answers itself when you see people, lower level people, such as people who are 1.00

00:35:02.100 just convicted.

00:35:02.820 This is the psycho. 0.99

00:35:03.720 This is the psycho. 1.00

00:35:04.780 This is the psycho Weissman, the psycho who's been after Trump since he got elected. 1.00

00:35:09.380 And you can tell why he's a psycho. 0.99

00:35:13.800 Julie, I thought the Proud Boys were a group of guys got together and drank beer. 0.95

00:35:17.840 It was like a fraternal society.

00:35:19.440 What happened today?

00:35:21.140 First of all, why does Andrew Weissman talk like a valley girl?

00:35:25.020 I know no grown men who talk like he does.

00:35:29.280 And where did his shoulders go?

00:35:31.080 I don't think he's a grown, I don't think he's a grown man, ma'am.

00:35:34.520 Where is the rest of him?

00:35:35.700 What?

00:35:37.780 I don't think he's a grown man, but I digress, but I digress.

00:35:44.020 Unfortunately, what he said, so what happened in the Proud Boys trial today, what he's gloating

00:35:48.820 about and what Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray and Matthew Graves and Lisa Monaco had

00:35:54.360 their press conference this afternoon to brag about these seditious conspiracy convictions.

00:36:00.280 Four out of five members of the Proud Boys, including their leader, Enrique Tarrio, convicted

00:36:05.620 of that very rare charge.

00:36:07.500 They also were convicted on other conspiracy counts, obstruction of an official proceeding.

00:36:12.680 The jury had some mixed verdicts for some of the lower counts.

00:36:18.920 But these are huge bombshells and big victories for the DOJ.

00:36:22.400 Not tough to do in the D.C., Banana Republic, judicial and legal circle of hell, I've called

00:36:30.120 it for the past two years.

00:36:31.400 Very easy to do, especially when the foreman of the jury referred to January 6th as an insurrection

00:36:38.760 during the jury selection process and called BLM basically social justice warriors.

00:36:45.080 That was the foreperson for the jury, just to give you a taste of what these men were up

00:36:49.300 against.

00:36:49.740 But look, this is a really tragic day.

00:36:52.600 This was not an incident of domestic terrorism.

00:36:56.040 These men were not violent for the most part.

00:36:59.020 This is a First Amendment case, as are many of the January 6th cases.

00:37:04.320 But this is just another way for this Department of Justice to retaliate against Americans who

00:37:10.100 protested Joe Biden's election and to criminalize political dissent in this country, which this

00:37:16.300 DOJ is doing very successfully with every trial and every conviction.

00:37:21.700 But today is their biggest victory by far.

00:37:26.680 And talk to us about it.

00:37:27.900 This is not about the Proud Boys.

00:37:29.980 This is about President Trump, correct?

00:37:31.300 Exactly right, Steve.

00:37:34.060 You know, you don't have that press conference, as I said, with the heaviest hitters out of

00:37:37.700 the Department of Justice.

00:37:38.660 So you can brag about getting, you know, convictions for Zachary real.

00:37:42.860 No Americans ever really even heard about outside of Washington, D.C.

00:37:46.960 This is, as Weissman said in his California accent, that this is the way to go after Donald

00:37:55.160 Trump for the same charges.

00:37:56.740 And Jack Smith, I use quotes, Jack Smith, the pretend special prosecutor handpicked by

00:38:01.980 Merrick Garland, will now be armed with these convictions with this same evidence to present

00:38:08.660 to the grand jury now probing indictments against Donald Trump.

00:38:11.780 But look, Steve, I explained in my pieces on American Greatness the reason why the Department

00:38:18.660 of Justice used Donald Trump as a key figure in this case and in this trial.

00:38:23.480 I was there for closing arguments in D.C. last week.

00:38:26.800 The assistant U.S. attorney, Conor Mulroo, his first video clip he showed the jury in closing

00:38:32.420 arguments wasn't of the Proud Boys.

00:38:34.960 It was the clip of Donald Trump from September 2020 in that presidential debate telling the

00:38:40.640 Proud Boys to stand back and stand by.

00:38:43.940 That was used by this DOJ as sort of a call to arms of sorts, where the president was instructing

00:38:51.680 the Proud Boys to plan for January 6th, even though nothing had been planned by that point.

00:38:57.340 But they stitched together this case, not to keep these men in jail for decades, which will

00:39:02.640 happen, but to eventually go after, as you said, the man Andrew Weissman has wanted in jail

00:39:09.020 now for more than seven years, and that man is Donald Trump.

00:39:15.280 But what they did in this trial, you followed this closely, and you did great reporting.

00:39:20.320 I guess they went back to build this, because it hasn't been used in, I guess, over 100 years.

00:39:24.960 They go back to their group chat.

00:39:27.240 Is that what the evidence the jury saw?

00:39:29.200 They went back to their group chats about how they were planning this?

00:39:32.380 I mean, it seems like a reach to be able to get to this verdict.

00:39:37.120 What did they show, in your mind, the jury?

00:39:40.700 Was it dialogue they had?

00:39:42.200 Was it emails they sent?

00:39:43.520 Was it a group chat?

00:39:45.380 Was it actions that they took?

00:39:47.000 What was it that convinced this jury?

00:39:49.980 So it was mostly, most of the evidence was gleaned from about 500,000 messages that were

00:39:55.840 collected in this case, including messages, Steve, by an unknown number of FBI informants

00:40:02.340 that the government finally admitted.

00:40:04.180 At least eight were involved in this group.

00:40:06.940 I suspect it's probably more like dozens.

00:40:10.040 But they were also embedded in these group chats, talking about the stolen election, talking

00:40:14.660 about plans to go to D.C., not just on January 6th, but December of 2020, for the Stop the

00:40:23.340 Steele rallies to protect people, there were clashes between the Proud Boys and BLM and

00:40:27.460 Antifa rioters.

00:40:28.920 That sort of evidence was presented to the jury.

00:40:32.660 And so it really was a First Amendment case.

00:40:36.340 How do you overthrow the government by force, Steve, when you bring no weapons to the Capitol?

00:40:41.580 When you stop at food trucks on your way from the Washington Monument to the Capitol?

00:40:47.240 When in Ethan Nordean's case, he walked through doors that had been opened by police as Capitol

00:40:53.240 police are standing right there.

00:40:54.400 He's walking there by himself.

00:40:56.240 How do you overthrow the government by force?

00:40:59.180 And that's the key terminology there.

00:41:02.200 When you haven't assaulted any police officers.

00:41:05.340 I mean, this is the crazy sort of cases, evidence.

00:41:10.220 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:41:12.720 Was that all presented by the defense attorneys?

00:41:15.180 Was all that brought up in the opening statements presented as evidence and then in the closing

00:41:20.500 arguments?

00:41:21.000 Um, they did.

00:41:23.400 I mean, they, they did as best as they could to explain that a lot of this was just talk.

00:41:30.040 One of the defense attorneys described the case as very best.

00:41:33.380 Then what, what, what, then what, what did the government show besides the text messages

00:41:39.500 that convinced the jury that this was a conspiracy?

00:41:43.700 They showed videos of some of the proud boys, Ethan Nordean and Joseph Biggs, uh, at that

00:41:50.980 first breach point.

00:41:52.040 Joseph Biggs was at that first breach point.

00:41:54.360 Uh, you remember with Ryan Samsel, the man with the red hat turned backwards and Ray Epps,

00:42:00.440 by the way, made several appearances in the evidence, especially in the last week of the

00:42:06.180 trial.

00:42:06.560 He remains on charge.

00:42:08.240 Of course, these guys' lives are destroyed.

00:42:10.000 They'll be in prison for a very long time.

00:42:12.580 Um, so they showed videos of them.

00:42:15.040 They showed videos of them making their own videos, you know, posting on social media,

00:42:20.400 sort of bragging about what happened on January 6th.

00:42:23.260 So there were some video clips that were, um, presented.

00:42:27.660 So that is the bulk, uh, of the evidence, but you don't see any of the proud boys.

00:42:33.100 One of them, Dominic Pizzola is accused of using a riot shield to break a window.

00:42:37.220 He's the only one charged with destroying any government property.

00:42:42.660 Um, so this is the sort of really, as another defense attorney said, case built by, uh, paper

00:42:51.660 clips and rubber bands.

00:42:53.080 It didn't matter though, Steve, because you're going before a jury made up of voters from

00:42:58.560 a city that voted 93% for Joe Biden.

00:43:02.480 I mean, these people have open hostility contempt for Donald Trump and his supporters.

00:43:07.880 This trial never should have taken place in Washington, DC, but judge Tim Kelly, who's

00:43:12.500 the real villain here, by the way, refused to move this out of Washington, DC to another

00:43:18.360 jurisdiction where they would have had a more fairer shot at a legitimate trial.

00:43:25.600 Um, you know, jury selection was going on when the January 6th select committee was tagging

00:43:30.360 boundaries, holding them responsible for what we have to do.

00:43:34.140 Jury selection is going on.

00:43:35.860 Hang on one second, Julie.

00:43:39.000 We'll take a short break.

00:43:40.260 Julie Kelly on the other side.

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00:46:16.620 Ron DeSantis?

00:46:18.000 Yeah.

00:46:18.520 He voted to cut Social Security or Medicare.

00:46:20.640 Not once, not twice, but three times.

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00:46:38.460 Okay, welcome back.

00:46:43.560 Epoch Times has a thing about early endorsements.

00:46:45.960 I'm not a big name in endorsements to make a difference.

00:46:47.920 Remember, Trump in 16 didn't care.

00:46:50.100 But having been president and then won presidency the second time, it's a whole difference.

00:46:53.920 Epoch Times got a story of 72 to 5 on endorsements.

00:46:58.060 That kind of, I think, sends a signal, particularly when you've got all the Republican establishment and you've got all the money in back of DeSantis.

00:47:05.100 But nobody will step up and say, you know, I'm with this guy.

00:47:08.240 We're going to drill down more on that tomorrow about Governor DeSantis.

00:47:11.540 President Trump on a roll, obviously.

00:47:14.820 Except, okay, they can't.

00:47:17.760 And you've got Morning Journalists people talking about, you know, the polls.

00:47:20.800 Morning Mika said he's going to be a major force in this, I think she said, relevant, finally.

00:47:29.460 They understand something.

00:47:30.720 The only way they defeat Trump is through lawfare.

00:47:33.820 Let me be blunt. 1.00

00:47:35.860 For Lisa Monaco and Merrick Garland and all the scumbags over DOJ, and you are scumbags. 0.99

00:47:46.660 The only way that you're going to stop him from getting back to office and deconstructing the deep state and the administrative state and holding you accountable for your lawlessness is you've got to use lawfare. 0.99

00:48:00.120 I got that.

00:48:01.220 It's a tough world.

00:48:02.280 I got it.

00:48:03.460 You know, there are no tears in the war room.

00:48:05.280 I got it.

00:48:06.040 I got what you're doing.

00:48:07.740 But we know what you're doing because you can't stop him at the polls.

00:48:11.480 You stole, you got 74 million votes.

00:48:14.560 You stole it in 2020, and it shouldn't have been stolen.

00:48:18.820 It shouldn't have been allowed to be stolen.

00:48:20.440 But I digress.

00:48:22.760 More, we can spend more on that in the weeks to come.

00:48:25.620 But they understand where he is and the momentum he's got, particularly as the collapse.

00:48:31.100 Did I mention that for the first time in history, every regional bank ended up in the red today?

00:48:38.380 You know, go to birchgold.com slash war room right now to get the third in the series, the end of the dollar empire, about the debt trap and about getting ready and prepared over the weekend for this massive fight that's going to take place over the next couple of days.

00:48:51.760 But the other thing you ought to do is talk to a birchgold representative, one of Philip Patrick's guys.

00:48:58.500 Why are the central banks in the rest of the world buying gold with both hands as fast as possible?

00:49:04.040 It is because of the constant devaluation of the U.S. dollar by these maniacs in this uniparty regime who basically have a system because the Federal Reserve continues to crank out devalued fiat money.

00:49:19.580 So go find out today what it means, what it means for you, what your alternatives are.

00:49:25.720 But what Julie Kelly has basically been chronicling the last couple of years is now in high relief.

00:49:34.060 And you saw a valley girl, valley girl Andrew Weissman, the valley girl there.

00:49:39.260 He's all giddy and skipping around.

00:49:42.480 He's all happy today, cooing.

00:49:45.540 Right, Julie?

00:49:46.200 Because they understand this is about Trump.

00:49:47.620 This is not about the Proud Boys.

00:49:48.680 This is not about the Oath Keepers.

00:49:49.820 This is about Donald John Trump, the 45th and soon-to-be 47th president of the United States, and they're coming after him.

00:49:57.240 Yes, ma'am.

00:49:57.640 Go ahead.

00:49:58.520 Andrew Weissman is on his way to the Galleria.

00:50:01.180 He is going to go on a man's shopping spree to celebrate.

00:50:05.120 I do want to make a correction.

00:50:06.500 I'm sorry.

00:50:06.900 They were, the Proud Boys were convicted of destroying one piece of government property, which was a fence outside.

00:50:15.600 So I want to correct that.

00:50:17.480 The window smashing, that was only Dominic Pizzola.

00:50:20.040 So I want to make that clarification.

00:50:22.380 At any rate.

00:50:23.520 Hold it.

00:50:23.820 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:50:24.920 Don't bury the lead.

00:50:26.160 The same fence that we got on camera, Ray Epps, pushing back and forth that fence.

00:50:31.820 Is that the fence?

00:50:32.360 No, different one.

00:50:33.100 Yeah, that fence.

00:50:33.320 Ray Epps' fence.

00:50:34.800 Different fence.

00:50:35.380 Sorry.

00:50:35.780 Sorry, Ray Epps.

00:50:36.900 It's not Ray Epps.

00:50:37.300 Don't mean to pick on Ray Epps.

00:50:38.440 Got the big old long face.

00:50:40.160 Not Ray Epps' fence.

00:50:41.800 Different fence.

00:50:43.280 Go ahead, ma'am.

00:50:45.400 So I wanted to make that clarification.

00:50:48.060 But yes, you can see all of the news today.

00:50:50.460 And I wrote about this.

00:50:51.320 I've written about this and said this for weeks and months.

00:50:54.060 My piece last week was laying out exactly this roadmap that kind of ended today with these convictions

00:51:00.940 and emboldening Jack Smith and emboldening Jack Smith to bring these criminal indictments.

00:51:05.400 I would suspect that that will happen within the next few months.

00:51:09.480 Sentencing in this case will be in September.

00:51:11.940 So this is going to be a source of continual headlines for the left and for Democrats against Donald Trump

00:51:19.540 and exposing his legal jeopardy until they finally do indict him.

00:51:24.500 Now, they could choose not to pursue seditious conspiracy charges, Steve.

00:51:29.400 That is a possibility.

00:51:31.520 But he will be indicted.

00:51:33.060 It's a matter of what.

00:51:34.060 But I never for a while thought that they would bring seditious conspiracy charges against him.

00:51:39.480 But now with this and then the two Oath Keeper trials where six Oath Keepers were found guilty by a jury on those same charges,

00:51:47.660 connecting all of that to Donald Trump, I think, certainly escalates that risk for him.

00:51:55.160 We'll spend more time on this and get to the bottom of it all.

00:51:58.820 By the way, the scuttlebutt is that's why the D.A. in Fulton County is backed off till August

00:52:05.540 because Jack Smith is going to move before then.

00:52:07.340 But I'm just passing on the federal courthouse scuttlebutt, right, what the word of the day is there.

00:52:13.240 We'll soon find out.

00:52:14.320 Julie Kelly, how do people get to you for your great reporting?

00:52:17.440 All my work can be found at American Greatness and Greatness.com.

00:52:20.400 I'm on Twitter quite a lot reporting with breaking news, Julie underscore Kelly, too.

00:52:25.160 And same with Getter and Truth, Julie underscore Kelly.

00:52:28.820 Julie Kelly, you're the best.

00:52:31.580 Thank you very much.

00:52:32.540 Thank you for covering this in the depth and brilliance that you do.

00:52:36.540 Thank you, ma'am.

00:52:38.400 Okay, next hour, Bishop Schneider is going to be in the house.

00:52:43.540 Very special war room battleground from one of the holiest men in the world

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00:53:00.600 The syllabus of eras, what modernity has turned into and what it means for all Christians

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Bannon's War Room - May 04, 2023

Episode 2709： Lies Of The EPA; The Failing Of The US Navy

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