Bannon's War Room - May 05, 2023


Episode 2711: The False Empathy Of AI; The Rising Of The Satanic Revolution


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

163.3666

Word Count

9,579

Sentence Count

457

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

In this episode of War Room, we discuss the implications of open AI and the implications for the economy, jobs, and the future of the world as a whole. We talk about the impact of openAI and the impact it will have on the economy and the world, as well as the need for open AI in the long term.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:09.800 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:16.400 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:20.160 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:23.740 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:31.560 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:39.500 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:46.720 john you know you've been spending a lot of time thinking about underprivileged underserved
00:00:56.900 markets underserved people and the implications on jobs and things of that sort and i'm curious
00:01:03.500 where you think ai really is going to land i think there's no avoiding that this is what i call the
00:01:10.400 third reconstruction i've said it on your show before it's a you know fourth industrial uh revolution
00:01:15.760 it's uh this is this is this is like going from from mankind to horses and more probably more
00:01:21.740 appropriately from horses the transition to automobiles which took 50 years to complete this
00:01:27.700 is probably going to happen in five years and it's it's going to disrupt the lives of a hundred
00:01:33.000 million working families uh between now and 2030 and if we do it right there'll be another hundred
00:01:39.400 million or plus jobs that come in and we'll train them properly if we do it wrong it won't just
00:01:44.240 be black and brown people who have pain it'll be my poor white brothers and sisters in the short
00:01:48.820 term i think there's a lot of issues that people are now discussing uh provenance of content is a
00:01:53.700 good example and a big one right like we're how are we going to know what content is is real is generated
00:01:59.540 is from a human you need to know that you're talking to a human or an ai when it's one or the
00:02:03.660 other i think you should so there's a class of things about that uh and then longer term as these
00:02:09.720 systems become really really powerful i do think we will need some sort of international authority
00:02:14.300 um that is that is looking at the people building the most powerful systems last night was probably
00:02:19.680 one of the most important meetings i hosted ever because of the implications i i'm very hopeful
00:02:25.460 because a guy like sam is on point and sam and i sam called me and said let's do this meeting it
00:02:31.860 wasn't my idea it was his we had talked about it but he took the initiative to go from the white house
00:02:36.600 to our house was quite dramatic we can decide anything we want we collectively society not we
00:02:42.100 open ai um there will be regulation there will be many different versions of this that work
00:02:46.260 uh and we will have over the in the coming years a very rigorous discussion about how we're going to
00:02:52.660 integrate this technology into our lives and we can build in all sorts of safeguards we can build in
00:02:58.220 all sorts of rules but if we don't have this discussion with a very broad group of people
00:03:02.440 um we will build something that a small slice of humanity wants rather than what humanity as a
00:03:07.340 whole wants sam has something that a lot of tech leaders don't have i say this very respectfully
00:03:13.240 he's got iq and eq sam's the only tech leader i'm aware of that went into the underserved community
00:03:18.460 ever with a new uh technology like this to listen and not just talk and say help me make this better
00:03:25.380 almost like a moral bill of rights which is what this is probably we probably need that as much as we
00:03:29.900 need regulation and i think that this community can help him do that
00:03:33.360 friday 5 may in the year of our lord 2023 uh for hour two of the morning edition of the war room
00:03:43.500 evening edition five to seven even with four hours uh every weekday and you know a couple hours on
00:03:50.380 saturday and all the time we spend together it's not nearly enough to make sure that we can put out
00:03:55.240 the information that um this um all-important audience needs to grasp the challenge ahead of us
00:04:03.600 but we're going to make our best effort right joe allen and joe you've been working on a special
00:04:08.400 project i keep pulling you off because uh you're in the middle of it now this is cnbc spending 30
00:04:14.520 minutes a day msnbc they're all they're they're obsessed with this and the reason is they understand
00:04:20.040 the magnitude of this i've said this over a year ago that ai and and transhumanism is going to be a
00:04:27.480 big part of the 2024 campaign just is you can tell it already what's going to happen when a guy sitting
00:04:34.120 there going you know it's we're going to talk about 100 million families 100 million jobs households
00:04:40.220 we're going to affect and if we do it right we'll create 100 million uh but if we do it wrong
00:04:46.400 so joe allen walk me through this brother well steve we heard a lot about sam altman listening um you
00:04:55.760 know yesterday kamala harris and joe biden met with uh the tech ceos from open ai microsoft google
00:05:04.040 anthropic uh at the same time sam altman begins his his tour to listen to actual human beings about
00:05:12.340 what we might want uh in regard to the technology that he's deploying
00:05:17.220 so who did we just listen to there that was of course sam altman
00:05:21.740 that was john hope bryant and uh moderated by andrew sorkin
00:05:27.020 people will remember him from the war room clips
00:05:29.980 interviewing ray kurzweil interviewing the robot sofia
00:05:34.020 people like eric schmidt alex carp from palantir so on and so forth
00:05:38.340 uh i am not ever um let's just say i've oftentimes been accused of being a bit cynical
00:05:44.020 and definitely my cynicism alarm bells went off listening to that
00:05:47.860 there you have sam altman talking about provenance of content proving that content is made by humans
00:05:55.940 uh the problem arises from the technology that he is pushing forward from chat gpt or dolly to the
00:06:04.240 image generator coming from open ai another project that sam altman is also invested in
00:06:10.640 is called world id um denver actually has a uh an image that we can see there there we see the orb
00:06:18.400 uh a sphere that takes a detailed photo of your iris so that you can attach your verified biometric
00:06:26.880 identity to your digital identity uh and thereby prove that you're human and that is the solution
00:06:35.200 uh that sam altman is putting forward to the problem that he is in fact causing um of course
00:06:41.600 our listeners will also be familiar with the concept of the fourth industrial revolution
00:06:46.400 mentioned by john hope bryant uh the fourth industrial revolution pushed by klaus schwab
00:06:52.800 and defined as the merging of the physical digital and biological worlds of course the world id fits
00:07:01.280 neatly into that paradigm and uh john hope bryant uh was actually a handpicked by klaus schwab in 2004
00:07:09.440 to become a young global leader uh he attended of course the most recent uh conference in davos where
00:07:16.880 everyone was talking about open ai and artificial intelligence in general and the impact it would
00:07:23.680 have on society so john hope bryant the voice of america's blacks and uh to some extent i guess the
00:07:32.000 voice of america's poor whites is a young global leader uh closely situated with klaus schwab and uh
00:07:40.160 clearly is on board with the fourth industrial revolution paradigm i i would also note that all of this
00:07:46.240 talk about iq and empathy that he was bringing up uh this notion of empathy which i am i would like to
00:07:52.800 consider myself an empathic person and i think empathic people are the best people but uh klaus schwab's
00:07:59.600 latest book the great narrative is all about empathy uh you know the world basically discovered
00:08:05.920 klaus schwab during the pandemic with the great reset and became reasonably furious at everything that
00:08:14.080 they read there and the kind of cynical opportunism in the face of a pandemic and so the great narrative
00:08:20.160 is his attempt uh to bring about a more uh inclusive and empathic narrative so that we can be ushered into
00:08:28.160 this new technological era with hope and feel uh warm and fuzzy as we become cyborgs uh with artificial
00:08:36.640 intelligence if not ruling over us uh certainly as perpetual partners in our lives generating text
00:08:43.840 generating images making financial decisions so on and so forth not not not whoa whoa whoa whoa they're
00:08:52.000 going to be the the way the plan is you can tell the how they're rolling it out and that's why this thing
00:08:57.280 on empathy they're going to part is on 60 minutes remember to finish with the with the with the
00:09:04.560 radiologist they're using an example for radiology they picked a random example and the radiologist
00:09:13.200 would be able to come in in the morning and go through and ai would be able to do more and looking
00:09:17.360 at charts and looking at people's cancers and all this stuff more in 30 seconds than the top doctor
00:09:24.560 in the world would be able to do in years this is just a radiologist and you know some and a technician
00:09:31.280 radio and they would then the the machine or the robot or the ai would then be a no the human would
00:09:38.400 just be a function it'd be a body man be a body man like like with president trump when he goes around
00:09:44.240 you get a body man to get him a water or to you know go grab something or go grab somebody or here's
00:09:49.920 what i need a body man you're a body man to ai it's to be that you can tell with the empty it's
00:09:54.320 to be a partner but wait for it you ain't the you're the junior partner remember the whole thing
00:10:02.560 this was my my previous uh uh rant up in the first hour of the show this is what they want
00:10:12.320 and what they're getting and you can see this in the education they want you to be just proletariat
00:10:17.440 right and now you're going to be proletarian now you're going to be a body man to uh a thinking
00:10:24.160 machine essentially what this is a machine that can think so fast and so magnificently and then
00:10:31.280 eventually is going to have consciousness by the way some of the top people already now think it has
00:10:36.800 consciousness at least of a six or seven year old person if correct me if i'm wrong joe allen but
00:10:42.640 they want you they're going to want you as you're going to be you have a partner the problem is you're
00:10:47.280 not going to be the senior partner you're going to be the body man and that's going to be of the
00:10:52.480 people that keep the jobs not the hundred million that get displaced there they're going to have to
00:10:57.280 think about something else and and to solve all this and to stop all this they had a meeting with
00:11:02.800 kamala harris doesn't that make you feel great coming off of her a magnificent solution
00:11:07.520 to the invasion on the southern border right what else is she's done a couple other things she went
00:11:14.320 around the world she's she's a rock star she's a solutions provider when i think of a solution when
00:11:19.840 i think of somebody i really want on top of a problem that can own a decision own a room enforce
00:11:24.880 her will and you know put her enforce her will upon events kamala is the is the person that comes to mind
00:11:30.560 that's who they put on this that's where they had the meetings the only thing that she would be able
00:11:35.760 to do is cackle to to to the the robots would like said we can't handle this you can't you gotta
00:11:41.840 stop the cackle joe allen this thing is is hurtling towards and i realized sam altman going around and
00:11:49.280 having a listening tour how dumb do they think you i mean you gotta remember we try to respect you by
00:11:56.480 making the show tough and giving you information and the economist and ft and capital markets and
00:12:01.360 geopolitics and you know get the we had bishop schneider on here yesterday we try to get the
00:12:05.760 best and the brightest in here to talk and and to be able to share with you and it's pretty easy
00:12:11.760 against our opposition who have no respect for you whatsoever they think you're a bunch of dumb cattle
00:12:18.000 and so sam mama give me about sam altman's listening tour he's going out and talking to he's
00:12:23.040 listening to human beings and this is what he's getting feedback about what you believe what you
00:12:28.720 your feedback on what what you think about your new digital overlords is that what he's asking for
00:12:35.200 input on how about this i don't want a digital overlord yeah i think i'm built i think i'm made in the
00:12:40.880 image and likeness of god i like that i i'm for i'm for these guys the homo sapiens let's let i take this
00:12:46.800 we're through the ones made in the image and likeness of god right with the holy spirit as a temple of
00:12:54.480 the holy spirit that's what we want is he is you think sam altman's out there uh you think sam
00:12:59.840 altman's out there asking those questions getting that feedback brother joe allen
00:13:06.960 look i don't know how malicious or sinister a guy like sam altman is i only can speak from my
00:13:13.520 perspective and other legacy humans uh and and luddites really uh and what i see is it doesn't
00:13:20.880 really matter whether he's sincere or not in this listening tour that he is creating a technology
00:13:26.400 that will be profoundly destructive and destructive for those who are not readily positioned to benefit
00:13:33.440 from it uh while he's going on this listening tour bill gates who is still a big figure at microsoft
00:13:41.360 which if it doesn't control open ai they certainly are making big decisions about how their technology
00:13:47.040 is deployed bill gates is pushing for artificial intelligence to become the kind of gold standard
00:13:53.280 for teaching meaning that no matter what any adult thinks about this they are creating human ai
00:14:01.200 symbiotes of the coming generation it won't matter what we think if they're able to get to them first
00:14:09.040 that's what i exactly exactly that is the perfect summary it ain't gonna matter you know why because
00:14:17.280 the thinking machine doesn't really care what his body man thinks that's where we're headed uh joe allen
00:14:23.360 fantastic how to i'm gonna send you go back to your project now joey we're going to amass a project
00:14:27.280 we'll be able to announce in a couple of weeks what uh where do people get to you sir you can find me
00:14:32.560 at war room.org under the transhumanism tab joebot.xyz and social media get her in twitter at joe b-o-t-x-y-z
00:14:41.280 thank you very much steve thank you brother thank you sir dr terrell marshall is going to be in the
00:14:48.400 house here momentarily also have ben harnwell from rome shocking private art showing
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00:16:35.600 okay welcome back um we're going to have tomorrow uh elements of the conference world war three the
00:16:45.520 early years we're getting tomorrow more geopolitics uh more international politics national security
00:16:52.320 also uh philip patrick's going to join me uh cnbc finally reporting it i got it up on getter you know
00:16:59.040 the central banks now are on a bigger role buying gold in 23 and they were in 22 which was a record
00:17:04.480 year at least since 1950 which i think is when they started keeping this statistic go to birch gold
00:17:11.200 and by the way you're you're the head of the creditors committee you got homework assignments
00:17:15.520 we're gonna do a lot of homework this weekend because tuesday's the big uh that's tuesday's the meeting day
00:17:19.920 so let's um make sure you go to birchgold.com slash bannon to get the end of the dollar empire
00:17:28.880 we've been doing this for about a year year and a half the third installment ripped from today's
00:17:32.640 headlines is the debt trap and get you up to speed on everything you need to know as a member of the
00:17:37.840 creditors committee on what this uh and and by the way we don't talk about gimmicks we've broke it
00:17:44.880 you got to understand something folks we broke these people you got you got a guy that's got a
00:17:49.360 nobel prize from the norwegians right and he's talking about printing minting a one trillion dollar
00:17:59.440 coin gimmick to get past you that's a victory you've broken them you but you didn't know how hard it was
00:18:05.120 for paul krugman to write that we're gonna rub his nose in that because that's a gimmick and it's a
00:18:11.680 dangerous gimmick it's dangerous for the new york times to print that and put this crap up there every
00:18:16.000 day so go there right now and and check it out okay uh i want to put dr taylor marshall thank you
00:18:23.040 very much honored to have you on here a huge fan of your writing and and everything we've done so
00:18:26.960 many specials with you we had a very special we had bishop schneider here in the show last night and
00:18:31.760 then had a very special dinner with some spiritual warriors that was just incredible and i'm gonna spend
00:18:36.560 some time with dr marshall talk about the spiritual warfare that we're in i want to go to the first ben
00:18:42.400 harnwell um and this is what the crisis it is and and you have to understand we had tom williams on
00:18:47.920 here from rome dr tom williams in this book about christian persecution he said hey it's going to get
00:18:52.800 worse than anything in first century rome and it's coming and here's one of the reasons it's coming
00:18:57.520 talk to me about what the eu is doing right now in in your and i tell you what the art he's about to
00:19:04.480 talk about we can show only one picture the rest of the art is too obscene to put up it's too obscene
00:19:13.200 to be seen but to put up um ben harnwell well this is an excellent setup for your uh for your
00:19:21.840 investigation now with dr marshall um because this is pure ephesians 12 6 territory here this is an
00:19:29.280 exhibition that they've held um between the 2nd and the 5th of may so it closes today which is the
00:19:34.480 feast day of pope saint pius the fifth let's just mention that quickly move on um and this exhibition
00:19:40.800 which was uh denied access to actually members of the tax paying public is so obscene um it gives us
00:19:50.160 an illustration into what's going on in the minds of the politicians who organized this steve and and
00:19:56.960 which party are they well it's obviously the swedish left um it's a shame but i absolutely
00:20:03.280 understand that we can't you know this is a family show we can't show some of the images that that
00:20:08.240 illustrate the the degree of degradation deviancy um and freakishness that are uh that that is uh
00:20:16.800 being promoted here by the very people who own and control our culture throughout the west um but
00:20:23.120 you're just gonna have to take our word for it it's pretty gross um and this is steve this is the
00:20:28.560 left this is what the left does this is what it enjoys going to see this is what it considers to be
00:20:33.440 art when it's behind closed doors so we've in a certain sense we have a privileged opportunity here
00:20:39.360 to see inside the minds of the left um and see what they consider to be high art it's depraved um it's
00:20:48.320 organized by a swedish lesbian photographer that those uh those i should say are her illustrations
00:20:55.200 that are being promoted at this exhibition um and you know we've we've been christians fighting in
00:21:02.800 the public square have been um suffering but but hold on but hold on but whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa slow
00:21:09.200 down hang on here i have no problem with the lesbian swedish photographer she's an artist she can do what
00:21:16.000 she can do what artists do okay that that's her deal she's got to answer for that that's her deal
00:21:22.880 my problem is the sociopathic overlords that would use taxpayer money and put this up and
00:21:28.960 then not let the public come in and see it what they've done and they talk about all these conspiracy
00:21:34.640 theories got these q people they're all crazy about all this stuff and these conspiracies there
00:21:39.600 they're fueling it the problem is tell me about the exhibit i the the and i want we'll put up
00:21:45.760 a link so that the the adults and the public can go see this so you should see it in fact we should
00:21:53.200 have our noses rubbed in this and this is not about the lesbian photographer that's the creator that's
00:22:00.400 her deal okay she's got to answer for that she'll be weighed and measured okay people have people are free
00:22:08.400 they're free to make these decisions she's made a decision and she's making an artistic statement that
00:22:12.960 is what it is that's not what the issue here is official uh institutions are not just supporting
00:22:21.600 it they're promoting it and they're promoting it in the way they get best of both worlds they get
00:22:26.400 to promote it among the sociopathic overlords internally so they can smirk and smog but more
00:22:33.600 and more and more reinforce how superior they are to this peasant's religion this excuse me peasant
00:22:41.120 superstition and mock it look what we've done but they will not let the public in ben harnwell
00:22:50.080 steve i i left the uh the european parliament um 15 years ago and i have to say it has gone i mean it
00:22:56.240 was it a pretty it's always been in my estimation uh at a nadir but it's if it were possible it has
00:23:02.880 gone down uh even further downhill since i left so the only people who could um attend this this
00:23:09.520 artistic exhibition are you know people from people like me uh with the appropriate badge uh members of
00:23:15.840 the european parliament themselves and that's basically it organized as i say by taxpayers money but deprived
00:23:22.720 the opportunity uh you know in one sense it's a blessing uh that taxpayers can't go and see how
00:23:28.000 their money's being wasted yeah because of the outrage it would generate if i can push back on one
00:23:32.640 point steve if i can push back on one point please you say please you say you say that the issue here
00:23:38.800 isn't that it's that this is so-called artwork organized by a swedish um lesbian photographer you
00:23:44.960 know in one aspect that's absolutely true can i just however say that for christians who've been
00:23:50.640 suffering these outrageous so basically since the 60s onwards you know i put this out on on getter
00:23:57.120 this morning it's not courageous it's not brave it's not stunning to do these things against the
00:24:03.760 judeo-christian tradition let me let me let me let me push back let me push back i didn't say it was
00:24:10.880 brave i didn't say this it's not it's not brave she wouldn't do it to mohammed she wouldn't do
00:24:16.320 mohammed because she had her head on us right okay but i didn't say that i said she's as an artist
00:24:21.920 she makes choices she made a choice i understand how artists make choice she ain't gonna make just
00:24:27.280 like we're gonna play we're gonna play for dr marshall and play the witch turn the bible she
00:24:32.720 wouldn't do it with quran i admire the muslims for that i admire that they're not going to back down
00:24:40.480 that's their strength that's why reverend haigey used to say hey the problem in europe you got the
00:24:46.560 churches are empty and the mosque are full i get a bounce band but we'll come back to this but but
00:24:53.440 this is what tom williams is saying that art in the eu putting it on for people officially in the eu
00:24:59.760 but not letting other people see it shows you the judeo-christian west is not now post-christian
00:25:06.240 it's anti-christian by its leadership and if you're prepared to accept it it's going to get
00:25:12.560 first century rome anti it's going to get diocletian you're going to get the diocletian anti-christian and
00:25:18.880 you're going to get there pretty quickly the guy in the transhumanism thing let me not bury the lead
00:25:23.280 from the last thing he said wait for it five years five years it's coming ben uh thank you this is a
00:25:32.240 fantastic get we got a lot more to get to uh i appreciate how do people get to your social media
00:25:36.800 you're doing an amazing job steve it's uh simply my surname harnwell on getter at harnwell and i'm
00:25:43.200 also pushing out content on the war room newsletter and i might be doing a dive into this uh image that
00:25:48.240 you show which is to give a brief explanation this is our lord and savior here surrounded uh by bdsm
00:25:55.600 um um apostles that's that's the that's the idea behind this this is embrace this is the founder of
00:26:01.920 our of our religion and our faith and our salvation surrounded it's the living it's the living god
00:26:08.720 that's a living that's a living god right there i want everybody to look at that in in your prayers
00:26:13.680 this weekend in your prayers this weekend think about that thank you ben dr taylor marshall your
00:26:20.640 thoughts and observations on this well if this was the quran if this was an image of muhammad even
00:26:27.520 if it were one of the heroes of the left there'd be outrage if this was attacking dylan mulvaney or
00:26:34.320 something like this making fun of gandhi or martin luther king you pick it yes they would be up in outrage
00:26:41.840 and as you said the problem is empty churches and full mosques it's it's the problems on our own
00:26:47.920 doorstep here and i think christians need to be vocal and we need to say this is an outrage this
00:26:53.680 is god this is the son of god and i think we were talking about this last night there's this idea that
00:26:59.040 in our culture that there can be a neutral vacuum with no principles philosophy theology and that's not
00:27:07.760 true wherever there's a vacuum there's always something that comes in and we are against a religion of
00:27:13.360 secular humanism which is transitioning into trans humanism and unless we lift up the cross
00:27:22.640 and get back to our roots as a christian culture we will lose it's over dr taylor marshall you know
00:27:28.800 where he's a great wingman it's a perfect tee up for the next segment okay we're taking a short
00:27:33.120 comer that was genius and we didn't even talk about it we're gonna take a short commercial break
00:27:36.880 uh uh pastor jackson lawmire is going to join us pastors for trump the guardian and uh in in all the
00:27:46.160 big left-wing media has got him in the gun sights because uh they say he's committed the crime of
00:27:52.800 being a christian nationalist that's the new crime the sociopathic overlords have a new crime you're
00:27:58.720 a christian nationalist okay we're taking a short commercial break dr taylor marshall's in the house
00:28:02.720 pastor jackson lawmire joins us after a short commercial break
00:28:09.200 bring it on and now we'll fight to the end just watch and see it's all started everything's begun
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00:31:01.220 Let me bring in Jackson, Pastor Jackson Lawmire.
00:31:04.300 Pastor Jackson, I don't know if we got the Guardian story.
00:31:06.520 The lead story in the Guardian the other day, sir, singled you out, accused you.
00:31:12.100 I don't know if it's an accusation, but then it is that you're a Christian nationalist, sir.
00:31:18.080 You're leading a Christian nationalist movement, and you've got 7,000 pastors, something called Pastors for Trump,
00:31:25.100 and you're having a COVID meeting on 11 May at Doral before Clay Clark and the team, General Flynn, kick off one of their events.
00:31:34.800 Tell me, what is the truth and what is the spin of the Guardian, sir?
00:31:40.360 Well, Steve, first, thanks for having me on. Love everything that you have been doing and continuing to do.
00:31:45.800 And, yeah, the Guardian, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone, New York Times, they have all labeled me as a Christian nationalist,
00:31:53.940 and they mean it in a very negative way. Every single time you read it, it's that I'm a threat to democracy.
00:32:01.480 Well, if you just take the two words, you know, do I identify as a Christian? Yes.
00:32:05.400 What is a Christian? A follower of Christ. I am a Christian.
00:32:08.220 What is a nationalist? Well, a nationalist is someone who believes that the interest of their country should come before the interest of other countries
00:32:15.940 and how their government operates. Therefore, I'm a Christian and American-first individual,
00:32:21.980 and they don't mean it in those terms. They mean it as a very negative, derogatory thing.
00:32:26.480 But I will tell you, Christian nationalism is not a threat to the American democracy and republic.
00:32:32.060 I believe Christian nationalism is the only hope for the American republic to survive,
00:32:37.160 because what we have been infiltrated by is a bunch of godless globalists.
00:32:42.900 See, those are basically the two categories. If you're not an American nationalist Christian,
00:32:47.420 you're a godless globalist in that sense, and they're trying to get Christians not to participate in the geopolitical world.
00:32:54.740 Just be a Christian. We're okay if you're just a Christian, but if you get involved in politics,
00:32:59.720 well, then we're going to run hit piece after hit piece after hit piece upon you.
00:33:03.200 But that just tells me we're over the target.
00:33:05.340 Isn't their interpretation different?
00:33:11.220 I'm not saying, I don't think they have a problem with you being a Christian,
00:33:14.440 and I'm not sure they have a problem with you being a nationalist.
00:33:17.040 Well, they probably have a problem with both of those, okay, as qua-Christian and qua-nationalist.
00:33:22.140 But their point when they combine them, and they always, most of the time, put the term white before it,
00:33:28.020 white Christian nationalist, that you're nothing,
00:33:31.040 you're just different in degree, not kind, from the mullahs in Persia, in Tehran, that you're a theocrat.
00:33:38.080 You're essentially a theocrat.
00:33:39.700 You are, Pastor Jackson Lamar, the American Christian Taliban.
00:33:47.220 What say you, sir?
00:33:48.020 I've been called that as well several times on Twitter, the American Christian Taliban.
00:33:53.060 And here's the reality.
00:33:54.620 None of us have ever advocated for that at all.
00:33:57.120 Here's what we advocate for.
00:33:58.540 I want to elect godly men, godly women who happen to be Christian into public office.
00:34:03.400 That is just my stance.
00:34:05.200 You know, the largest voting bloc in the United States of America is the evangelical voting bloc.
00:34:09.580 If evangelicals would simply get out and vote, I'm telling you, we'd flip this country in a minute.
00:34:15.600 Within 10 years, we could flip the nation in regards to who's holding public office.
00:34:20.100 If Christians just simply got out to vote, they know that.
00:34:23.420 They're very afraid of that.
00:34:25.180 Therefore, this is why they push back.
00:34:27.220 Don't get involved, especially as a pastor.
00:34:29.800 Don't get involved in politics because they know the influence that pastors have.
00:34:34.280 How do you mobilize the largest voting bloc in America?
00:34:37.140 You mobilize pastors because they're parishioners, they're congregation, they listen to them.
00:34:42.620 So that's what we're doing.
00:34:43.560 We're mobilizing pastors to mobilize the evangelical vote.
00:34:49.180 Pastor Longman, we're going to bounce.
00:34:50.640 How do people get to your site, the Pastors for Trump, and how they find out more about your 11 May?
00:34:55.220 We'll have you back on and go into details.
00:34:56.620 But how do they find out now about your 11 May gathering at the Doral in Miami?
00:35:03.580 Yes.
00:35:03.980 So on Thursday, May the 11th, we'll be at Trump Doral holding a great event.
00:35:07.940 You can go to pastorsfortrump.com, pastors4, F-O-R, or the number 4.
00:35:13.520 Either will work, pastorsfortrump.com.
00:35:15.820 And they can register for our national prayer calls as well as our upcoming events.
00:35:20.120 Steve, we would love to have you up here at one of them.
00:35:24.320 Pastor, thank you very much for the invitation.
00:35:26.980 And keep fighting great work.
00:35:28.760 Appreciate you.
00:35:29.540 Thank you for coming on, sir.
00:35:31.440 Yes, sir.
00:35:31.800 Christian nationalism.
00:35:36.260 This is the new vector of attack.
00:35:38.760 In the minds of the left, they see the power of what Jackson Lawmire is talking about.
00:35:45.620 They understand that there's, I don't know, 30 million Christians that don't vote, that are not engaged.
00:35:50.380 A lot of those from the concept of, you know, I'm religious.
00:35:55.640 I don't want to get involved in the mundane of day-to-day politics.
00:35:59.320 Is that mentality acceptable anymore when we're on the edge of the abyss?
00:36:07.160 What they're doing is they're associating it with Nazism.
00:36:10.180 That's what they're doing.
00:36:10.960 They're just putting the word Christian in there and then sending out the message that these are.
00:36:16.280 White Christian Nazis.
00:36:17.500 Exactly.
00:36:18.120 That's what's going on here.
00:36:20.740 And I think we, as Christians, need to say our culture must be built on the logos.
00:36:29.780 That's the Greek word, the word of God who is Christ.
00:36:33.140 The word became flesh and dwelt among us.
00:36:36.120 They want to say, no, we're going to have a neutral society where there's a separation of church and state.
00:36:40.880 And Christianity has nothing to do with the public square.
00:36:44.720 If we settle for those rules, we lose every time.
00:36:49.640 Because the serpent is not neutral.
00:36:51.460 Exactly.
00:36:51.720 It's not a neutral.
00:36:52.580 Exactly.
00:36:52.960 Tell me why it's not neutral.
00:36:54.320 It's not neutral because, A, original sin.
00:36:57.280 We're all tempted, right?
00:36:58.720 We all have a concupiscence bending us, tempting us towards sin.
00:37:03.100 And also, there is either God, logos, the word made flesh, or chaos.
00:37:09.320 Those are the two ends of the spectrum.
00:37:11.200 And we're always moving towards one or the other.
00:37:13.040 We're going towards an ordered society that is good, true, beautiful, where children thrive, families thrive, civilization grows in flowers, or we are tipping towards chaos, where we define reality.
00:37:28.800 We define marriage.
00:37:31.060 We define gender.
00:37:33.340 We define human transhumanism.
00:37:37.460 And whatever God has said about it gets cast out.
00:37:40.280 If we agree to those rules, we will lose.
00:37:43.540 The left knows if we agree.
00:37:44.800 So when they hear Christian, we want Christianity and politics, they label it Christian nationalism, Nazism.
00:37:51.100 They know that if Christians start to assert Christ is king, logos in the public square, we win.
00:37:58.320 We automatically win.
00:37:59.900 Look at what happened from the time of Constantine all the way through up until the 1800s.
00:38:05.300 Because Christian culture, where it was going, was thriving.
00:38:09.360 You see hospitals.
00:38:10.720 You see orphanages.
00:38:12.380 You see education.
00:38:13.960 You see the entire flourishing of what we know as civilization.
00:38:18.700 And it was a blessing.
00:38:20.160 It was good.
00:38:21.360 People benefited from it.
00:38:23.240 Were there problems?
00:38:24.640 Were there mistakes?
00:38:25.440 Were there, yes, we're a billion people.
00:38:28.060 Of course, there's all kinds of.
00:38:29.260 And we're humans.
00:38:30.220 It's imperfect.
00:38:31.420 But in an imperfect world, it was building towards something for the greater good.
00:38:36.480 We're more people coming out of poverty.
00:38:38.600 And look, you had slavery, you had horrible, horrible things.
00:38:41.260 But you're working towards eradicating those.
00:38:44.600 Exactly.
00:38:44.960 And so, you know, back in the 1300s, there was this new idea called nominalism.
00:38:51.240 And that was against realism.
00:38:52.760 And realism is the idea that everything in reality is defined, is real, because there is a God.
00:39:00.120 Socrates talks about this.
00:39:01.440 Plato talks about this.
00:39:02.600 Aristotle talks about this.
00:39:04.100 But in the 1300s, you have men like Ockham and others.
00:39:07.740 And they start promoting this idea of nominalism.
00:39:11.060 And nominalism is the idea of giving things nomina, names, that we humans are naming reality.
00:39:21.860 This goes back to the 1300s.
00:39:23.440 This is really the root of what you just saw on TV, of ripping up the Bible, of transgenderism, transhumanism.
00:39:29.980 We humans are defining reality.
00:39:32.400 We're defining what a flower is, or what a dog is, or what a squirrel is.
00:39:35.840 Once you begin to bite that apple, and you start rolling that out from 1300 on to now, we are now defining everything.
00:39:45.880 God is gone.
00:39:46.840 He is exiled, they believe.
00:39:49.320 And now we are the ones.
00:39:51.260 Man is the measure of all things, not God.
00:39:55.760 Secularism, a neutral public square, is always God defining things.
00:40:01.540 It is always nominalism.
00:40:03.000 It is philosophical nominalism, and it is danger.
00:40:07.780 Nominalism ultimately comes, we were talking in the break, comes to its full fruition in Nietzsche.
00:40:14.160 Will to power.
00:40:16.200 And we saw in the 1800s great theologians, great popes, Pius IX, Leo XIII, they were warning society that nominalism has come to full fruition.
00:40:26.800 And we are about to enter into, and I'm not going to hold back any words here, satanic revolution.
00:40:33.520 Pope Leo XIII had a vision of Satan, and he went and he composed a prayer, the St. Michael prayer, asking God to bind Satan upon earth.
00:40:46.280 Because he knew we were about to enter into the most satanic century so far, the 1900s.
00:40:52.140 And now we're even getting worse.
00:40:53.880 Even in Blake, there was no, of course, about the satanic mills of London when he wrote Jerusalem.
00:40:59.860 But you go back to the, Pius IX, you've got Pius X, you've got Leo.
00:41:06.000 With the steam engine in the Industrial Revolution, they saw, they were able to look downrange and see what these massive advances in technology that had much good it could do for the human race.
00:41:19.700 Pius XIII also had the, just like the artificial intelligence, it has the kernel of great destructive power.
00:41:27.880 They saw the 20th century.
00:41:29.560 The power of their revolt against modernity there was that they saw, Nietzsche saw it and they saw it.
00:41:37.560 Right?
00:41:38.020 Exactly.
00:41:38.500 And they warned us.
00:41:39.900 That was the syllabus of errors and the oath against modernity, all that.
00:41:42.960 They warned us about modernity.
00:41:44.240 Yes.
00:41:45.360 And what's sad is, is we Christians, we had such a beautiful and strong intellectual tradition.
00:41:54.860 Catholics, Christians were conversant in these things.
00:41:58.300 And so many of us now think, well, yeah, like you said earlier, I'm a Christian, but I don't want to impose my beliefs on reality.
00:42:05.500 I'm just going to have, you know, my cross in my bedroom at home and that's where it stays.
00:42:10.620 And that is not Christianity.
00:42:13.300 Jesus says, you are the salt of the earth.
00:42:17.320 You are the light of the nations.
00:42:20.900 You have to go out there and be salty.
00:42:23.620 What is salt worth if it loses its savor?
00:42:27.660 He says, go into all nations, teaching them what I've commanded you and baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:42:34.680 The book of Revelation talks about Christ's kingdom going to every tribe, tongue, and nation.
00:42:40.180 This is a universal global mandate because what God has called us to do is to know, love, and serve him forever.
00:42:47.560 And his logos, his divine son must provide the rational paradigm, the rational holy matrix for how we live as humans.
00:42:59.220 And if we say that is regulated just to our hearts privately, quietly, it needs to be there.
00:43:07.460 Absolutely.
00:43:08.460 But what did Jesus say?
00:43:09.360 From the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
00:43:13.380 That's what we're doing now.
00:43:14.560 We're speaking.
00:43:15.040 And if we don't speak in the public square, we lose every time.
00:43:18.600 Short commercial break.
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00:45:34.760 Rebellion comes in many forms to each and their own within their own capabilities and their own situation.
00:45:41.360 For some of us, merely existing one more day is victory.
00:45:44.620 But for those of us who can, we must stand up for those who cannot.
00:45:50.000 They're then doing the un-baptisms, right?
00:45:57.220 Tell me about it.
00:45:57.760 This is a spiritual war right there.
00:45:59.480 You're seeing that they're stealing a march on us, are they not?
00:46:02.420 Yeah.
00:46:03.300 And people say, oh, this is the new thing.
00:46:05.780 You're so brave for being trans or Satanist or whatever.
00:46:08.800 But imagine if they – we talk about if the Koran, the Muslims would be out burning the hotel down where they were at.
00:46:16.820 She wouldn't have got – she would have gotten about three pages into that rip.
00:46:20.640 And that's – I admire them.
00:46:22.500 I admire the fact that what they stand up for what they believe.
00:46:27.100 They would not let that happen.
00:46:28.360 And there's not one imam that would tell them to go down and pray in front of it.
00:46:38.160 I'm just saying.
00:46:39.300 They wouldn't.
00:46:40.020 They'd say, hey, this is not going to happen on our watch.
00:46:41.960 That's what they would say.
00:46:43.380 And the back story to this is the cardinal was informed of this.
00:46:49.120 Catholics were going out there to pray outside the hotel.
00:46:51.800 And the cardinal, the Catholic cardinal says, stand down, don't go.
00:46:56.640 Many Catholics went anyway.
00:46:58.360 And yet the same cardinal tells Catholics to go out and represent and protest for BLM.
00:47:04.960 Of course.
00:47:05.500 That's an – that's social justice warrior.
00:47:07.820 That's an infiltration of the church where –
00:47:10.120 What do you mean by that?
00:47:11.760 We have had over the last 150 years a planned assault on the church.
00:47:17.600 They learned from Diocletian up to Napoleon, if you attack the church from without,
00:47:23.820 you kill their leaders, kill their holy ones, you create martyrs.
00:47:27.440 And the seed of the church is the blood of the martyrs.
00:47:31.500 So after Napoleon, into the 1800s, they decided we cannot do external attacks on the church,
00:47:39.280 on the Christians.
00:47:39.920 What we need to do is we need to worm our way in.
00:47:42.240 We need to infiltrate the ranks.
00:47:44.580 We need to get into the seminaries.
00:47:45.920 We need to get into the colleges.
00:47:47.780 We need to get into the priesthood and the pastors.
00:47:50.460 We need to get into the episcopate, the hierarchy, the cardinals.
00:47:53.780 And we have to attack it quietly, patiently from the inside.
00:47:58.780 They did that in the church.
00:47:59.700 They did that in the countries, in the nations.
00:48:02.440 And so now, instead of having to fight against Diocletian or Nero or Napoleon,
00:48:07.540 we have our own shepherds and pastors pulling us down, telling us, stand down.
00:48:16.000 Go out for BLM.
00:48:18.100 Go out for immigration or go out for Joe Biden even.
00:48:22.880 They'll stand up and take pictures with Joe Biden.
00:48:24.840 But when it comes to standing up for Christ against Satanism or ripping up a Bible, stay home.
00:48:33.760 Don't get involved with that.
00:48:36.800 You shall know them by their fruits.
00:48:38.760 You know, the great stoic dictum in Latin, octa non verba.
00:48:43.200 Actions, not words.
00:48:45.040 If you want to know if someone truly serves the Lord, actions, not words.
00:48:50.220 It's easy to say, I believe.
00:48:53.520 You must have works.
00:48:55.160 You know, if you love me, Jesus says, you'll obey my commandments.
00:48:58.720 There needs to be an outward overflow from the heart.
00:49:02.280 And we have these hierarchs, these pastors, these cardinals who are infiltrated.
00:49:08.220 And, you know, they never came out and said, vote for Joe Biden.
00:49:12.760 But they took photos.
00:49:14.900 They posted pictures of Biden and Pope Francis together.
00:49:18.660 They definitely pushed that.
00:49:21.340 And Pelosi.
00:49:22.680 Biden goes to Rome.
00:49:24.120 He meets with the Pope.
00:49:25.220 Pope says, go to communion.
00:49:27.780 And yet he stands for, he's completely opposed to what the Bible teaches about marriage, holy matrimony, about gender, sexuality, about the sanctity of life.
00:49:41.460 All of these things, he is not only neutral, he is opposed.
00:49:48.140 And yet you have all these pastors and all their robes and their finery and they are endorsing this.
00:49:55.080 And we need to not only acknowledge that Christians have been duped by not speaking in the public square, but we've also been duped because these so-called shepherds.
00:50:05.760 And Jesus talks about this.
00:50:07.120 He said, there are shepherds and there are hirelings.
00:50:10.120 And the sheep know the voice of the shepherd.
00:50:14.380 That means we sheep, we lay people, have to listen.
00:50:18.160 And Jesus promises us there will be false pastors, false shepherds.
00:50:21.960 A lot of people say, when I say these things, like, well, you're speaking against the church.
00:50:25.400 How can you say, these are the bishops of the church.
00:50:28.120 You know, you can't say these things.
00:50:29.140 Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, multiple times in the four gospels said, there will be false shepherds, false prophets.
00:50:38.820 There will be wolves in sheep's clothing.
00:50:41.040 I mean, this is a major part of the message of Jesus Christ.
00:50:44.280 Amongst the 12 apostles, one was Judas.
00:50:47.980 So this idea of infiltration and of bad shepherds, false leaders, wolves in sheep's clothing, is as old as Christianity itself.
00:50:57.720 It's in the apostolic college, and it's in the teaching of Jesus.
00:51:03.240 And so to be truly Christian is to heed what our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
00:51:08.440 And that is, the sheep hear the voice of the shepherd.
00:51:12.460 There are wolves among us.
00:51:16.720 And we've got to follow the shepherd.
00:51:18.340 Ultimately, the greatest shepherd is our Lord, Jesus Christ.
00:51:22.140 How do people find out more about your work?
00:51:24.760 Twitter, taylormarshall.com.
00:51:27.580 But most people follow me on YouTube, Dr. Taylor Marshall on YouTube.
00:51:31.920 And how often is the show?
00:51:33.640 Do you have a regular show?
00:51:34.640 About every day.
00:51:35.740 I've been traveling this week.
00:51:37.320 Of course, I'm in D.C. now.
00:51:38.760 So when I'm not in the studio, of course, it's hard to get on.
00:51:42.040 Is there a set time for the show?
00:51:44.540 Or is it just really?
00:51:45.100 Usually 2 p.m. Central.
00:51:46.520 2 p.m. Central.
00:51:47.160 That's usually when I go live.
00:51:47.960 So that would be 3 o'clock East Coast.
00:51:50.360 And the show normally takes an hour?
00:51:52.400 An hour.
00:51:53.080 An hour.
00:51:53.420 And you do it every day that you're in Texas?
00:51:56.380 Pretty much, yeah.
00:51:57.480 Are you also teaching anywhere?
00:52:00.200 So I run the New St. Thomas Institute.
00:52:02.800 So it's an online institute.
00:52:04.660 And we teach philosophy, theology, apologetics, church history.
00:52:11.160 We have a whole course on the Latin Mass and the Roman Rite, Old Testament, New Testament.
00:52:17.760 And the idea is a lot of people want to go back to school and study Aristotle or Thomas Aquinas,
00:52:22.120 but they're not going to go enroll in a college.
00:52:23.680 So we create and deliver online courses.
00:52:27.580 So you sign up, and it's just a monthly membership.
00:52:31.400 One more time.
00:52:32.060 How do people get to all of that?
00:52:33.720 Nsti.com.
00:52:34.920 N-S-T-I.com.
00:52:36.980 New St. Thomas Institute.
00:52:38.180 And then what's your social media?
00:52:40.180 Twitter, Taylor R. Marshall.
00:52:43.020 Fabulous.
00:52:43.780 Okay, Charlie Kirk, two hours of populist nationalism served up hot as only Charlie Kirk can serve it
00:52:50.920 and the great team there.
00:52:51.760 I know Jack Posovic's over in Hungary right now with this incredible CPAC.
00:52:55.860 I want to thank Dr. Taylor Marshall for coming back for this very special dinner.
00:52:59.680 We'll talk about more of that next week and joining us here in the world.
00:53:03.260 Fantastic wingman.
00:53:05.420 Teed up the Christian nationalist pastors quite well.
00:53:10.760 Thank you very much.
00:53:11.640 Okay, we're going to be back here 5 to 7.
00:53:13.720 Charlie Kirk's next.
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