Bannon's War Room - Episode 2762： The Over Regulation Of Our Court System

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:09.940 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.540 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.300 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:23.880 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:31.700 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:39.640 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:46.860 welcome back to the war room still got an hour left we'll be breaking some news like i said

00:00:58.840 stephen k bannon skb should be calling in i think after after jeff maybe after mike davis you never

00:01:06.740 know whenever he calls we will pick up but in the meantime we do have jeff clark joining us but

00:01:12.620 before we go to him real quick i just want to let you guys know you know we know that turning point

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00:01:29.320 would like to come out to dallas texas june 9th through 11th myself and of course captain maureen

00:01:38.140 bannon will be hosting a breakout session at turning points young women's leadership summit

00:01:44.820 they asked if steve would speak but uh he said well i don't think i'm a young a young woman we

00:01:50.900 don't support that here in the war room so he won't be speaking you have to settle for me

00:01:55.520 not settling for mo she's wonderful uh but like i said june 9th through 11th turning point do we have

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00:02:10.420 sure maybe at some point there will be a promo code but in the meantime if you want to meet tp usa.com

00:02:16.580 thank you to my production team for uh for not really helping me out but i digress jeff clark

00:02:23.120 on a more serious note are you going to be speaking at the young women's leadership summit

00:02:27.620 no i don't i don't think so but well i'm always open if you'd like yes well thanks for having me

00:02:36.700 get some gender affirming care and then maybe you could of course so i know you want to talk

00:02:41.660 i'm gonna draw the line none of that well speaking of drawing lines we got to celebrate victories when

00:02:50.840 we have them and the supreme court has drawn two very nice firm lines in the sand when it comes

00:02:56.720 to the administrative state encroaching on the way that you can live your life jeff clark if you want

00:03:02.560 to walk us through uh these two decisions and why they are such wins for us sure so thanks for having

00:03:10.300 me on natalie uh both of these cases are big wins before i describe something look we get so much bad

00:03:16.560 news right we have this massive electric car mandate coming in from epa they're going to require this

00:03:22.340 unproven technology carbon capture and sequestration as a way of driving up your electricity bills you got

00:03:30.040 them trying to cancel your gas stoves you have the sec that's going to require climate disclosures

00:03:35.500 everybody's in on the act of of climate hysteria and our one bulwark is the supreme court so when we

00:03:40.920 have victories in that area we do have to celebrate them so we got two of them and let me cover the first

00:03:47.060 one which i think is really accessible which is about the takings clause of the constitution

00:03:51.000 the part of the constitution that says that your property cannot be taken for public use

00:03:55.560 without just compensation so we're talking about a literal literal uh you know little old lady i'm

00:04:01.220 sorry who's 94 years old in hennepin county uh minnesota and she uh owes you know back taxes and

00:04:09.180 then because they keep stacking on penalties and interest it builds up to fifteen thousand dollars

00:04:13.780 she's got a forty thousand dollar home and what do they do they come in and they take the home 1.00

00:04:19.840 and sell it and they keep the twenty five thousand dollar surplus and they say nothing to see here

00:04:25.540 you know we get to keep this because once we've taken the property we have absolute title we're just

00:04:30.340 going to you know shoot those funds over to general government purposes you know some for education

00:04:35.260 and the like and so of course she challenges this goes all the way to the supreme court

00:04:39.560 and the supreme court said no that was a taking uh they can uh you know take the money that she uh owed 0.98

00:04:48.360 in the back taxes but they can't uh take the full amount and and steal that from her essentially as 1.00

00:04:55.100 chief justice roberts wrote for unanimous court uh you know you have to pay unto caesar uh you know

00:05:01.720 what is his due but no more than his due and so i think this is a a good uh development for the republic

00:05:08.580 both because uh you know the takings clause in many ways has been in decline since the start of the

00:05:14.580 republic and it's especially been in decline in an area where uh regulatory agencies like epa and others

00:05:21.580 impose regulations on you that you know radically reduce your property values and then they try to

00:05:26.660 claim that uh there's no uh taking owed so it's good to see here that there was a pushback on this

00:05:33.380 confiscation of uh miss tyler's property and that uh i think it's going to be a useful precedent to build 1.00

00:05:40.100 on for future fights against the the regulatory state natalie so that's that decision the second

00:05:47.060 decision involves uh the clean water act and the whole issue of protecting wetlands and how they're

00:05:54.020 regulated it turns out that the jurisdiction that epa and the army corps of engineers it's a strange regime

00:06:00.500 where both of those agencies have jurisdiction uh that they have jurisdiction over the waters of the

00:06:06.820 united states but there's always been a fight about what does that term mean exactly i think it really

00:06:12.260 originally was intended to mean that the navigable waters but it's expanded past that but it clearly has

00:06:17.220 to be you know some kind of uh traditional water that you would recognize as such not a damp patch in

00:06:24.180 your backyard uh you know not a not a vernal pool uh and i have been working on this issue for

00:06:31.780 more than 20 years going back to like 1999 2000 before i joined the justice department the first time

00:06:37.700 and there was a case that went to the supreme court that was truly ridiculous and caused the

00:06:41.540 supreme court to push back on this over regulation and it involved the army corps of engineers having

00:06:47.540 an interpretation of the cleaned water act that said they can regulate your wetlands if a migratory

00:06:54.100 bird lands on the wetlands so it doesn't have to be a you know a a river a lake a stream uh it can

00:07:02.020 just be a damp patch and if migratory birds use it uh then there's federal jurisdiction and you know

00:07:08.740 that was super radical the supreme court struck that down said that posed serious problems under the

00:07:13.620 commerce clause power because it's state and localities that have powers to regulate land generally

00:07:19.220 not the uh the federal government the federal government can regulate waters but not land and

00:07:23.300 on the army corps interpretation they basically had converted it into we can regulate a lot of things

00:07:29.460 that that congress never intended and then i think that and they and the decision it was a case called

00:07:34.820 swank um invited the epa and the army corps of engineers to uh fix the statute and so then i you know

00:07:43.140 came into the bush 43 administration i worked you know tirelessly on trying to fix the statute to get

00:07:49.540 something like we got from the supreme court yesterday and uh you know here's a you know funny

00:07:54.260 little story uh this environmental group called uh uh i'm blanking on the name of it they called up

00:08:01.860 oh ducks unlimited they called up uh president bush and they said don't change this regulatory regime

00:08:08.020 keep more wetlands in federal jurisdiction and he pulled the plug on the uh on the fight so then

00:08:14.100 the supreme court uh had to weigh in again and they split badly with four justices led by scalia saying

00:08:21.620 hey you cannot regulate uh wetlands unless you know there there's something like a traditional

00:08:26.980 waterway involved and justice kennedy was squishier and he said you can regulate wetlands if they have a

00:08:33.060 significant nexus which is just replicating the weird problem of what exactly is a wetland that you

00:08:38.420 have uh jurisdiction over so finally after a lot of falderall there's a you know couple who just want

00:08:44.660 to build a home out in california and there's not a traditional water there there's just a ditch

00:08:50.020 and they you know are blocked from from building on their home and the supreme court uh finally stepped

00:08:55.220 forward and and seeing that the political branch the executive branch wasn't doing the job with the

00:08:59.780 regulations they came in and they clearly said that uh epa was massively overreaching and trying to say

00:09:06.660 that these were wetlands that could block this uh you know new home uh uh for the for the plaintiffs

00:09:13.540 and uh you know that that this is a massive victory for the uh against the uh administrative

00:09:20.100 state against uh the deep state natalie because you know it's giving uh power back to private

00:09:26.580 individuals for uh control over their own property so it shares a lot with uh the tyler case because

00:09:32.820 that's also uh saying that if the government does overreach and actually grab your property and sell

00:09:38.020 off the surplus that uh that's unconstitutional so those are the two cases i don't think the

00:09:45.380 administrative state has ever seen a drop of water an inch of land a branch of a tree that they haven't

00:09:51.380 wanted to regulate or get involved with that is unless it is in east palestine ohio so before i

00:09:58.100 let you go if you could give the war room posse just a bit of an update on what the latest is uh with

00:10:04.660 that whole tragedy the action or inaction that we've seen out of the biden uh doj on that front

00:10:12.340 i don't think that i've seen any major developments natalie i think the litigation continues to grind

00:10:17.540 along and and the uh norfolk southern is facing a torrent of private litigation and putative class

00:10:24.340 actions uh they're also facing this you know suit uh from epa which you know i think there should be

00:10:30.260 much more done for the residents of east palestine uh by epa and by the federal government generally

00:10:36.580 we still have president biden you know who's uh on world uh travel tours you know ireland japan etc but 0.99

00:10:45.220 he can't bestir himself to go out and talk to the residents who were injured by a completely stupid

00:10:51.620 decision to do a controlled burn which was really an uncontrolled burn of vinyl chloride which creates 0.93

00:10:58.900 phosgene gas he cannot go out there even after all this time they keep saying you know he might go at

00:11:05.380 some point but uh it never seems to wind up on his schedule it's uh it's very sad and then on the

00:11:11.780 josh shapiro front i'm not seeing any uh uh real movement there in trying to hold uh norfolk

00:11:18.660 southern accountable so maybe he just had a press conference and now he's dusted his hands of it

00:11:25.380 jeff thank you so much for joining me if people want to find you on social media and stay up to date

00:11:30.820 with some of your wonderful writings you had a great piece i think it was on the doj and where they

00:11:36.980 they derived their powers from how can people find you and and read all of that over this this long

00:11:41.460 weekend sure so we are at the center for renewing america which is americarenewing.com uh you can find

00:11:49.220 the paper if you search for doj is not independent uh and uh the center uh and i am on uh twitter and

00:11:56.900 getter at jeff clark us and on truth social at uh real jeff clark thank you sir thanks natalie

00:12:09.860 have a good one well speaking of accountability it's an important word here in the war room we want

00:12:16.900 no pandemic amnesty like the atlantic magazine has pushed now really no amnesty for anyone fbi do

00:12:23.220 all the departments really dhs especially especially uh mayorkus they should all be impeached maybe 1.00

00:12:31.140 we'll get to check in with mtg on how our impeachment effort is going but there was an

00:12:35.220 interesting tweet that was put out last night that i think was sort of lost in the cacophony that is

00:12:40.900 twitter that is when they can get their sound system actually working no shade ron de santis or

00:12:46.580 should i say rob d santis but jim jordan tweeted the fbi wants 500 million dollars for a new

00:12:55.300 headquarters no way and you know what the buried lead is there they're going to start going after

00:13:03.540 the funding for these institutions these woke agencies which is how congress can actually get

00:13:10.980 these institutions the leaders to actually play ball with them and turn over the documents whether

00:13:16.500 it's the fd 1023 whistleblower form that shows joe biden was involved in a pay for play scheme

00:13:22.580 or stop suppressing these whistleblowers from the irs who again are talking about how these crimes go all

00:13:30.020 the way up to the big guy make no mistake that is joe biden joining me we got about a minute before

00:13:37.300 we have to go to break is mike davis i think we have you just curious your thoughts you're always

00:13:43.140 throwing down on jim jordan what do you think about the idea that they should withhold uh all

00:13:50.020 this funding from the fbi for a new headquarters that seems pretty mike davis approved your thoughts 0.92

00:13:55.860 i think it's great and remember natalie i've gone from jim jordan's uh most vocal pain in the butt

00:14:01.700 critic on big tech to one of his biggest fans since jim jordan subpoenaed alvin bragg's office related to

00:14:09.540 the unprecedented indictment of former president trump up there so i am fully on board with jim

00:14:15.060 jordan right now i'm on team jordan but i will say about this iris whistleblower natalie this guy was

00:14:21.220 a 14 year veteran of the irs he's a supervisor there and he came forward with pretty damning evidence that

00:14:28.020 the justice department and the irs is obstructing the probe into hunter biden

00:14:32.340 hang with us mike i want to come back to you because we got a lot of whistleblowers there

00:14:39.300 there's a lot of whistleblowers that we have to keep track of because of joe biden's both

00:14:44.340 incompetency but also his corruption and make no mistake there's no incompetency there when it comes

00:14:50.020 to hunter biden's foreign business dealings and all the family members profiting from that

00:14:55.060 we'll be right back mike davis steve bannon and much more for war room veterans you know we have been

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00:16:28.740 case today action action action here's your host stephen k bann

00:16:40.020 welcome back to the war room we still got mike davis with us he was giving me a bit of a hard time

00:16:46.020 and during the break about my background but he said he'd give me an article three project background

00:16:53.140 so it's all good but speaking about serious matters like all the whistleblowers that just can't stop

00:17:01.780 coming out because joe biden is so corrupt we have mike davis to break down with his brilliant legal mind

00:17:08.020 all of that so i want to first focus on the irs uh gary shapley the veteran of the irs criminal

00:17:17.700 investigations department not just a member of the war room posse someone who like you said had been a

00:17:23.460 part of this department for 14 years he's certainly seen a lot of stuff he is testifying or at least

00:17:29.620 giving a behind closed doors interview uh today to the house ways and means committee because they have

00:17:36.580 jurisdiction over the irs but can you sort of walk us through what the next steps are with this

00:17:42.980 whistleblower what it sort of looks like is this you know uh impending doom for the biden regime um

00:17:50.180 do you think the american people will get to hear this this man speak will there be a hearing what are

00:17:54.500 you hearing i mean i do think that he'll be able to speak i he he has counsel and he's going through

00:18:00.340 the appropriate whistleblower channels including going to congress uh he's a 14 year veteran he was a

00:18:06.020 supervisory irs agent and he has evidence that the justice department and the senior officials at the

00:18:13.620 irs obstructed his investigation into hunter biden there's very it's very clear that hunter biden

00:18:21.060 committed tax fraud because he took millions of dollars from ukraine from china from romania and all

00:18:29.860 these other foreign places and he was funneling money to the biden family it seems like every

00:18:36.260 family member of of president biden got money except for president biden's four-year-old granddaughter who 0.91

00:18:43.060 he doesn't claim so every other sleazeball scumbag biden has gotten a lot of money they've gotten very 0.90

00:18:49.780 rich off of their corrupt illegal foreign dealings including then vice president joe biden's five 0.93

00:18:56.580 million dollar bribery scheme that's another uh that's another um fbi scandal that that uh we need to get to the

00:19:03.620 bottom of but you know who knows natalie we've seen repeatedly over the last several years that

00:19:09.060 we have two systems of justice in america we have one for the ruling elite and we have one for the

00:19:14.420 rest of us we saw blm and antifa destroy american cities cause billions of dollars in damage but if

00:19:21.700 you're a grandma who showed up and trespassed and took selfies on the senate floor on january 6th you're going

00:19:28.260 to go to prison for a long time and so uh you know we we see the we see the obamas we see the biden's we

00:19:34.500 see them get away with illegally weaponizing our justice system and our intel communities and then

00:19:41.140 they go after president trump for having his presidential records in mar-a-lac-o so we'll see

00:19:45.460 what happens here i think that's why this next presidential election is so critically important

00:19:50.500 well i can't let you get away with saying clinton and not drilling down on that front i know you

00:19:57.380 guys put out a wonderful press release really detailing how the fbi i don't even want to call

00:20:02.480 it a dereliction of duty uh because it's intentional um but can you before we get into the other

00:20:08.560 whistleblower that you were talking about that the oversight committee is dealing with specifically

00:20:12.620 the fd-1023 forum james comber sent a letter to fbi director chris ray which by the way i know we

00:20:19.100 always say where's hunter but where is chris ray um can you explain a little bit about the evidence

00:20:24.200 that we gained in part from the durham report but just from other revelations uh that really shows

00:20:29.100 the extent that the fbi is willing to go to to run cover for maybe one of the most uh corrupt dynasties

00:20:36.320 in all of american history i know steve's like steve likes to call her queen of the swamp um but for

00:20:42.260 running cover for the clinton family yeah she's the mummy of the swamp i i would say this about the fbi 0.50

00:20:48.780 remember back in 2016 hillary clinton when she was secretary of state got caught with her illegal

00:20:56.420 home server and it had our nation's most classified secrets and those secrets were almost certainly

00:21:04.080 hacked by our worst enemies including russia and china and this illegal home server showed evidence 0.88

00:21:11.280 of the clinton foundation's illegal pay for play scheme where the clinton foundation was taking millions

00:21:17.900 of dollars corruptly from these foreign governments these foreign entities while she's secretary of 1.00

00:21:22.900 state to line the clinton's pockets to enrich themselves and so what did hillary clinton do 1.00

00:21:28.140 when she got caught with her illegal home server and republicans in congress issued a subpoena 1.00

00:21:32.960 she she destroyed the evidence she obstructed justice and so what did the fbi do you would think that

00:21:39.300 the fbi would say okay we're going to charge her with obstruction of justice we're going to charge her 1.00

00:21:43.120 with foreign corruption we're going to charge her with maybe tax evasion whatever they're going to 1.00

00:21:48.820 charge her with like you would charge any other normal criminal in the united states what did the

00:21:53.040 fbi do the fbi destroyed the remaining evidence and we saw that in new york times reporting that the fbi

00:21:59.720 returned or destroyed the evidence the fbi also colluded with hillary clinton's campaign in 2016 along with

00:22:08.280 president obama vice president biden the obama attorney general the obama cia director and others

00:22:14.060 to launch the baseless russian collusion hoax the crossfire hurricane investigation into trump to distract

00:22:23.040 from hillary clinton clinton's troubles in july of 2016 and this led to three years of hobbling of the trump

00:22:31.780 presidency and so that's 2016 2020 the fbi hid evidence of biden's foreign corruption the illegal

00:22:40.900 millions that biden and his family except for their four-year-old granddaughter that they don't claim

00:22:46.500 took millions of dollars from china ukraine romania other places the fbi hid this the fbi hid evidence

00:22:53.100 you talked about that form natalie the fbi is still hiding evidence that then vice president joe biden

00:22:58.860 took it looks like five million dollars uh when he was the vice president of the united states and

00:23:04.540 changed american policy they are corrupt they are compromised the biden's are compromised president 0.87

00:23:09.940 biden is compromised and so that's 2016 2020 what happens in 2024 the fbi does this illegal

00:23:17.520 unnecessary unprecedented home raid on former president trump and the office of former president

00:23:23.540 congressionally congressionally funded heavily protected by the secret service to go get

00:23:28.720 president trump's copy of his declassified crossfire hurricane records so they've the fbi has now

00:23:35.260 interfered in three presidential elections 16 20 and 2024 2024 and i'm sure many more and by the way

00:23:45.060 just flagging for the war room posse we're obviously talking about hillary clinton and bill clinton but

00:23:51.300 don't forget chelsea clinton has some interesting new or i guess old uh bedfellows specifically the world 1.00

00:23:58.260 health organization and the gates foundation they just launched a new initiative uh to make sure

00:24:04.020 that basically every kid across the entire world gets every vaccine that big pharma thinks they need

00:24:11.160 i don't know about you but the clinton who gates foundation access doesn't sound too good to me maybe

00:24:19.620 that's the new evil axis mike i want to hold you through the break we got a few minutes but uh

00:24:25.260 chairman comer just sent a letter threatening to proceed with contempt uh proceedings against fbi

00:24:33.140 director chris ray if he does not comply uh with turning over at least letting them see that fd 10

00:24:40.200 23 form that again details that pay for play corruption involving joe biden the number of the day is of

00:24:46.680 course five million that's what he is alleging uh the amount of the payment he being james comer to

00:24:53.440 joe biden in exchange for whatever this policy decision was uh but if you just want to walk us

00:24:58.620 through again sort of the legal framework the legal background as to what's going on with this

00:25:04.440 whistleblower specifically yeah so here's the problem the fbi thinks that they're above the law and

00:25:11.020 frankly they have been above the law or they at least they've acted like they're above the law

00:25:14.760 and if if the fbi that the fbi cannot claim that they are doing a law enforcement investigation here

00:25:23.480 when they are clearly doing a cover-up it is the opposite of law enforcement they are covering up

00:25:28.760 for president biden and that is very clear this whistleblower has gone to chuck grassley my former

00:25:34.780 boss along with james comer in the house and there is clear evidence according to this whistleblower

00:25:40.900 according to reports of this whistleblower that then vice president joe biden took five million

00:25:45.660 dollars maybe from ukraine and changed american policy and if there is whistleblower evidence of

00:25:50.340 this in a document that you talked about natalie and the fbi is hiding this and the fbi refuses to turn

00:25:56.340 over this document that that is impeachable the house republicans not only should hold chris ray

00:26:03.380 in contempt they should impeach him and even if the senate doesn't have the votes to remove him

00:26:08.140 make him go through the process make the process the punishment chris ray was was president trump's

00:26:14.180 biggest mistake of the of president trump's first term president trump got cornered into appointing chris

00:26:20.660 ray chris ray is this protege of james comey he's this wealthy southern republican puke who is part of this

00:26:29.940 deep state cabal he's tied in he's like i said he was a protege of james comey he was james comey's

00:26:35.660 protege for five years during the bush 43 administration this guy is a snake he needs to go 0.74

00:26:42.120 he's clearly running cover for the biden's here he clearly ran cover for the biden's before the 2020

00:26:49.180 election frankly the fbi threw the election i mean there's no question that there was evidence that

00:26:55.220 the biden's that joe biden was corrupt that he took bribes and that he's compromised and the fbi

00:27:00.460 hid this from the american people

00:27:02.440 definitely think fbi director chris ray needs to feel the heat we got about a minute before we

00:27:11.940 have to jump to break like i said i want to hold you but when trump is reinstated when he takes his

00:27:17.400 seat back his rightful seat in the white house the first thing that you would tell him to do to

00:27:22.880 actually go against the deep state what would it be well when i'm trump's acting attorney general

00:27:28.980 during my three-week reign of terror natalie i will fire and indict as many people as i possibly can 0.80

00:27:36.640 before i get chased out of towns and that the firing would include several top layers of the fbi the

00:27:43.720 fbi director the deputy director of the assistant directors uh i the counter espionage and counter

00:27:50.160 intelligence components i would fire people in the national security division i would clean house

00:27:55.120 in the national security division they have senate democrat staffers right now in the national security

00:28:00.040 division on the trump team to go out to try to indict trump with jack smith

00:28:04.300 of course i say burn it down if norfolk southern can get away with doing that in east palestine 0.60

00:28:12.680 why can't we do that here in this swamp we'll be right back we got mike davis wade miller from the

00:28:19.640 center for renewing america and maybe depending you know his schedule is a little hard to pin down

00:28:24.120 stephen k bannon will be calling in to make sure we are up to date on all things debt ceiling but in

00:28:29.940 the meantime gotta go to brace we'll be right back friends it's hard to trust anything anymore

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00:30:10.020 welcome back to the war room still natalie winters running the show here but don't worry stephen k bannon

00:30:20.580 we'll be back tomorrow or i guess even tonight at 5 and tomorrow at 10 a.m but in the meantime we still

00:30:26.840 got a lot of news to break mike davis i think you're still with us before we let you go i just want you

00:30:32.780 to sort of reset for a second at least on the front of these investigations obviously we got the debt

00:30:37.800 ceiling going on the world is on fire we're entering world war three of course we got a long weekend

00:30:42.960 coming up but going into this jim jordan comer all these guys what would you tell them to have them

00:30:51.240 stay focused and actually have these investigations not turn into benghazi benghazi light nothing even

00:30:59.640 remotely close to that but actually get to the bottom of this and turn up evidence that can be used

00:31:05.920 to create criminal referrals prosecutions and hopefully very very very long jail sentences

00:31:12.780 i would say do not negotiate with terrorists these are not good faith actors i would say to jordan and

00:31:20.920 comer move forward with subpoenas immediately subpoena for documents subpoena for staff depositions

00:31:27.720 and then subpoena for public hearings use subpoenas widely go after every one of those

00:31:35.640 51 intel officials going go after everyone who is uh dirty on cross fire hurricane including obama

00:31:44.120 including hillary including jake sullivan including fbi director james comey former fbi director uh

00:31:52.140 andrew mccabe peter strock go after all of them issue subpoenas aggressively and constantly and keep

00:31:59.400 the pressure on them it's a zero sum game if democrats are not on defense

00:32:05.220 they're on offense this is lawfare use it against them

00:32:08.260 as andrew breitbart said war mike davis if people want to stay up to date with you and everything

00:32:16.800 you're working on where can they find you thank you natalie you can go to article three project.org

00:32:22.520 article number three project.org we'll take your donations there as well

00:32:26.000 at article three project at article number three project or article number three project on getter

00:32:32.540 twitter truth and my personal is m r d d m i a m r d d m i a thank you natalie

00:32:40.480 thank you sir well we're doing a little bit of production on the fly here we have some

00:32:47.040 clips that we want to play from russ votes c-span hit then we got wade miller from the center for

00:32:53.220 renewing america and i think we will have stephen k bannon calling in shortly but in the meantime we're

00:32:58.660 going to start with russ votes c-span wonderful c-span appearance this morning if we want to play

00:33:03.740 that denver we can go ahead we are in a position where we are not because of what i've done but

00:33:09.460 because of what the members of congress the house conservatives have done they're the statesmen

00:33:13.900 they're the ones in the arena our center puts out good ideas we try to inform the art of the

00:33:21.000 possible we try to explain when we think there's a bad deal on the table but the members are making

00:33:26.400 this happen and and you know they've been shown tremendous uh statesmanship in between january and

00:33:33.460 now to be in a position where there's massive leverage june 1st is not a real deadline on the on

00:33:39.040 june 2nd there will be still the same ability to pay interest and principal on the debt and what i mean

00:33:46.180 by that is revenues are coming into the treasury those revenues are more than enough that's necessary

00:33:51.780 to pay that the issue that they have is that the revenues are not enough to pay for the federal

00:33:57.100 government spending on the rate of all of the obligations that have been made and so now you

00:34:02.480 have a question about timely payment of some grant at the department of health and human service

00:34:07.260 so i think the point is no this is a fake deadline that they have bought into

00:34:11.820 but one of the reasons why i'm so concerned about the parameters of what's being discussed

00:34:16.580 is because it's almost worse than a clean debt limit because they're going to say these are the

00:34:22.140 spending levels that we are going to put into place and once washington dc has that that consensus

00:34:28.100 about where the appropriations process is no matter where the house wants to be they're not going to

00:34:33.580 be any lower than those caps and so this almost prejudges the appropriations process later in the year

00:34:39.340 in such a way that it's in some respects worse than a clean debt limit because a clean debt limit would

00:34:45.220 not have done that seems like the cartel is up to their old dirty tricks but you know what's different

00:34:53.360 this time the war room posse you guys are going to hold the line not only because you're leading the

00:34:59.960 creditors committee as steve always says because you guys understand what's at stake here and thanks to

00:35:06.540 the work of people like russ vote we have the inside baseball so we know thy enemy that's exactly

00:35:13.400 what we're going to do with wade miller joining me now from the center for renewing america that's

00:35:18.500 russ votes wonderful group and steve will be calling in shortly um but wade if you sort of want to

00:35:23.900 expand on what exactly russ was talking about and give us any more uh inside baseball any more

00:35:29.700 scoops that you have about what the latest is with these negotiations on the hill i'd appreciate that

00:35:34.240 sure so to back up a little bit you know the deal that we made in in january but not we that congress

00:35:41.320 made conservatives in congress made with the speaker of the house is essentially a coalition

00:35:47.000 style government where conservatives have a lot of sway over the rules package and then their uh

00:35:52.040 rules committee and there were a lot of agreements that were made one of them being that spending would

00:35:56.900 be at fiscal year 22 levels so now you have patrick mchenry a lieutenant of uh speaker mccarthy out

00:36:03.780 there making a deal with democrats and let me just say that you know putting patrick mchenry in charge

00:36:09.640 of negotiating a deal on behalf of republicans is like asking a labrador retriever puppy to guard stakes

00:36:15.180 it's just not going to happen it's not going to be a good deal the mission isn't going to be

00:36:19.420 accomplished uh the reason that the coalition style government was working is because you had

00:36:24.160 conservatives working directly with mccarthy to basically forge paths forward and that ensured

00:36:30.980 uh unity within the party and so what we're seeing now or at least what is being publicly reported you

00:36:36.960 know we'll have to see the fine details is that they are massively departing from what the house bill

00:36:42.840 that was already passed would accomplish it's it's uh much lower uh spending reductions that to almost

00:36:49.040 negligible uh intent in a way that hamstrings the appropriations process the caps will be a much

00:36:55.880 shorter period of time not 10 years but potentially two years and potentially over both the military uh

00:37:01.260 the dod side of things and the non-defense discretionary which gets us into a dynamic where

00:37:07.320 in previous congresses that's led to the dissolution of these uh deals because neither sides really want those

00:37:13.400 constraints and they always find an off-ramp and so we're we're basically putting in poison pills that down

00:37:18.460 the road will just self-destruct these types of deals a lot of the specific uh components of the

00:37:24.880 the house bill are being jettisoned out or super weakened like much lower reductions to irs spending or

00:37:31.280 that money is not really being reduced it's just being shuffled around and at the end of the day

00:37:36.420 speaker mccarthy has to make a decision he has to make a decision as to whether he wants to have a

00:37:41.600 coalition style government with conservatives to reflect a conservative republican platform agenda

00:37:47.080 or if he wants to have a coalition style government with hakeem jeffries and advanced a lukewarm

00:37:52.860 business as usual dc swamp uh level of of you know governing and at the crux here is you have moderate

00:38:00.360 republicans you know just squealing that democrats will never accept this type of a deal if that's

00:38:06.840 your poker face you've already lost we have got to be of the mindset that the democrats will think

00:38:13.300 that there's no way we would ever vote to allow for spending that will fund the department of critical

00:38:19.520 race theory which is the department of education and all of these other departments that are

00:38:23.760 fundamentally targeting the rights and and the day-to-day lives of american citizens through woke

00:38:30.840 and weaponized bureaucracy if this deal doesn't fundamentally take a meat cleaver to that problem 0.94

00:38:36.640 then this is just dc as usual and then what you will have is you will have speaker mccarthy

00:38:41.860 slowly shifting from potentially a historic speaker to a run-of-the-mill swamp leadership that no one

00:38:50.280 will remember in 10 or 15 years no one will remember in the history books and i just can't imagine that

00:38:55.300 that's actually the legacy that mccarthy actually wants and i and so i would urge those that are in

00:39:00.820 in these discussions to quickly pivot back to having a discussion with conservatives if a deal is to be

00:39:06.520 made it should be made in conjunction with conservatives and there could be a deal to be made but that's up

00:39:11.680 to leadership and the conservative caucus that cut this coalition style government and if we don't

00:39:16.980 have warriors like dan bishop and andrew clyde and lauren bober and chip roy and you know on and on and

00:39:23.980 on bob good i could go on and on and on if they're not a part of these conversations then i think that

00:39:28.940 conservatives and that faction need to take a hard look at the leverage they have and i think that

00:39:33.760 they could start making life really difficult for for mccarthy through the rules committee through other

00:39:38.140 leverage points and things really go bad i think that potentially vacate emotion could be on the

00:39:43.240 table and look mccarthy may be able to make a deal with democrats to save him on that front for a few

00:39:48.840 weeks but we're going to be getting into primary season and i just don't think that democrats are

00:39:53.560 going to toe the line and protect mccarthy and so if mccarthy wants to protect his speakership here he

00:39:58.180 needs to make a really good deal he needs to work with conservatives and he needs to understand that

00:40:03.100 there's no deal he can make with the left that's going to last the the the test of time

00:40:07.660 conservatives will stay on the hunt here and they're going to fight for their constituents

00:40:11.360 they're going to fight for america and that's exactly what the war room posse is going to do as well

00:40:15.900 thankfully when democrats say republicans are so radical that we're just going to defund destroy

00:40:23.400 and burn to the ground all these institutions i i always joke i wish we were the republican party that

00:40:29.000 democrats painted us to be i wish we were the republican party that would defund the fbi go

00:40:33.960 after the dhs for these woke and weaponized misinformation tracking programs that they're

00:40:38.940 spewing out it seems there's a new one every single day but i want to drill down because in in this show

00:40:45.100 on the show we like to make people famous we like to call out names you're talking about of course

00:40:50.340 you know these moderate republicans the squishes who have no backbones uh they're rhinos i'm sure the

00:40:56.720 the audience has some interesting feelings about these people we we know who they are for the most

00:41:01.500 part but do you have any scoops or any idea of who exactly these members are uh that aren't holding

00:41:08.840 the line uh primarily so the war room posse can light up their phone lines again the number is 202-225-3121

00:41:19.160 but wade do you have any insight um onto who is is really not holding the line right now

00:41:25.220 mainly what's being publicly reported uh that's that's what i'm leaning on heavily right now uh

00:41:31.680 unlike the establishment conservatives who are in the know on the hill actually honor their word and

00:41:37.380 they don't leak to the press uh so everything that we're getting right now is information that's

00:41:41.540 being leaked to the press from leadership circles and so you know the the it's publicly well known that

00:41:47.220 mccarthy is essentially in charge and that uh he's tasking out patrick mckenry with kind of fine

00:41:52.440 tuning the details here so i think that you know people if they're having questions those are the

00:41:56.760 two people right now there's certainly probably others uh but the good news is that conservatives

00:42:01.420 are holding strong i have every faith uh and and uh a lot of our good conservatives that they have the

00:42:07.320 leverage here to actually stand up and and uh make sure that the direction that this congress takes is

00:42:12.880 is what's in the best interest interest of americans and they have the leverage to do that

00:42:17.380 i mean look if if patrick mchenry and speaker mccarthy uh cut a really bad deal here the first

00:42:24.720 question should be well how are you going to get it to this the the uh rules committee you know uh we've

00:42:29.700 got a lot of leverage there to stop it and if this isn't a bill that our rules committee members

00:42:34.160 agree with or think is strong enough then they have the ability to stop it so that's the first hurdle

00:42:40.920 uh and then the second hurdle of course is if you know if if drastic steps are taken by the speaker

00:42:46.040 to go around that safeguard there's other leverage points here that conservatives could use and i think

00:42:51.160 that it's in the best interest of everyone to keep the gop coalition together and and moving in the same

00:42:57.660 direction and not being essentially at war with one another through the rest of this uh of this congress

00:43:03.520 uh over essentially what leadership should already be doing which is defending americans to this debt

00:43:09.940 ceiling deal we're not on the verge of default we've got all the leverage in the world the question

00:43:15.240 that every single republican member of congress should be asking is do democrats actually think

00:43:21.000 that we're going to fund the woke and weaponized bureaucracies that are targeting america and the

00:43:25.100 answer to that question should be no and democrats should know that and if they stand strong on that

00:43:30.220 democrats will cave and they will agree to a pretty strong deal because they'll have no other choice

00:43:35.420 but if we go into this with a really weak poker face then we're going to get rolled and conservatives

00:43:40.720 are going to have to do what they need to do

00:43:41.880 wait hang with us through the break i want you to stay i think we're going to have

00:43:48.080 steve joining us after but make sure during this break 202-225-3121 make sure you make your

00:43:58.840 representatives hold the line we'll be right back with steve wade and all things debt ceiling

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00:46:33.800 welcome back to the war room it's natalie winters and just here to give a warning to patrick mchenry

00:46:42.160 and all of his fellow spineless rhino republicans that six seconds of fame that you think you're going 0.77

00:46:49.020 to get on msnbc and the john from the john mccains of the world that's going to pale in comparison to

00:46:55.600 the wrath of fire and fury that you're going to get from the war room posse not just on your phone lines

00:47:01.720 but leading into 2024 can you say primary because i think the war room posse can speaking of fire

00:47:07.880 and fury we have someone who breathes that every day stephen k bannon joining us right now uh to give

00:47:14.640 us his thoughts on the latest with the debt ceiling frankly debacle that we see unfolding steve what say

00:47:21.300 you uh by the way natalie great show today i really i really enjoyed it that's amazing yes the show's

00:47:27.680 been on fire real quickly the best segment i want the team to cut that that opening with uh with russ on c-span

00:47:34.000 and then wade wade miller just gave you the bet you could not be sitting in washington dc as a big-time lobbyist

00:47:40.720 and get a better eight-minute briefing than what wade gave you on exactly what's happening behind the scenes

00:47:46.980 look it's very important this audience is what got us here you are the activist you're the tip of the spear

00:47:52.280 for the mega movement you need to call not just 202-225-3121 but also call your local representative's

00:48:00.000 office they're all coming back for the weekend in fact one of the things they want to do is get them

00:48:04.420 out of town you have to reinforce and we need members you got to tell them we need members going

00:48:09.900 on twitter doing radio shows getting out i understand a lot of things are shut down particularly

00:48:15.040 media over the weekend but we got to go on social media we'll be up on getter i may be actually doing

00:48:19.800 some getter lives over the weekend on this we have to get the word out wade's analysis is perfect the

00:48:25.400 only thing i would add is to me that's the key point they're trying to kick this deal not to a

00:48:30.000 one-year deal which we demand so it's in the middle of the presidential election but it'll come due next

00:48:35.820 up you know april and may they want to kick it into 2025 into right after the inauguration a two-year

00:48:42.160 deal gets them all off the hook doesn't put this as the central issue of next year's presidential 0.72

00:48:47.180 candidate you know the race which it has to be this deal this is the typical thing look not only

00:48:52.280 do we have all the leverage 100 not only is it phony and every number we see shows how they've lied and

00:48:58.040 misrepresented misrepresented that was going to be june 1st in addition the polling the two-thirds to

00:49:04.480 75 percent of the american people support what we say no debt ceiling raised without significant budget

00:49:10.260 cuts or some people just say hey put it in default 75 percent of the people in the cnn poll 45 percent of

00:49:15.700 democrats this shows you what we've been fighting the populist nationalist wing which is 80 percent is

00:49:21.560 fighting this old rhino this is traditional republican controlled opposition it's a it's like

00:49:27.160 abused spouses they that you know it's that abuse spouse syndrome they just cave at the first moment

00:49:33.060 they cave at the first moment this is an off-ramp they're looking for to cut a deal to have msnbc and

00:49:37.880 the new york times say how statement like they are and then turn on immediately the weight is exactly

00:49:43.000 right if we created this you might as well let them have a discharge petition and own the whole 0.87

00:49:48.180 thing interest rates will explode so this is absolutely awful you've got to call today you've

00:49:52.160 got to man the ramparts make sure if there's any opportunity to go up to your uh representative over

00:49:57.240 the weekend and tell them get on social media do local radio but just tell mccarthy this thing is not

00:50:02.220 going to pass it's not going to get our rules you're going to end your speakership if we don't

00:50:05.860 end it immediately we'll get you eventually and by eventually i mean like in 30 or 45 days

00:50:10.560 so we got it we got to hit them with fire that's all they understand and uh i'll turn you back or

00:50:15.700 wade did a fantastic job natalie great show uh just fantastic and looking forward to uh peter

00:50:21.640 navara tonight thanks for having me thank you so much i should be saying thank you for for having me

00:50:28.840 thank you steve wade i think we still got you so people are going to call once the show ends 202

00:50:37.660 225-3121 we got about three minutes until the end of show wade what is the pitch that they should give

00:50:45.280 their representative succinctly um what should they be saying i think that if you're an average

00:50:52.680 american right of center activist you've got to look at this and you've got to send the signal of

00:50:57.760 hold the line look at the current deal uh and insist that uh speaker mccarthy work on this deal with

00:51:05.740 conservatives and if the conservative wing specifically the 20 who negotiated uh the the

00:51:11.600 current coalition uh uh power sharing agreement if they all agree that that that a deal can be cut

00:51:17.980 here then we're all ears and let's take a look at it and and and if you know the likes of ralph norman

00:51:23.980 and uh andy biggs and some other uh warriors if if we have enough of them on board with it then we're

00:51:30.100 probably going to support it too uh and and so i think that the the question that they need to ask

00:51:35.060 or the the statement they need to make is hold the line no reason to negotiate with the left we're

00:51:40.220 nowhere near a default right now we have the power of the purse and their job is to go to dc to defend

00:51:46.880 us and to defend our children's future and what is being negotiated right now is kicking the can down

00:51:52.020 the road once again and that has got to stop if the gop or frankly conservatism in america is to have a

00:51:58.700 future we've got to put an end to it now no this this is the thing itself as steve would say we've got

00:52:05.840 about a minute before i have to let you go just curious have we heard anything from from the biden

00:52:10.520 side of things from janet yellen on this you know alleged june 1st deadline or are they still just

00:52:15.600 uh pleading the fifth basically no there's there's actually some movement there where they're

00:52:21.740 essentially admitting that we are right when we said june 1st is not the deadline they're now pushing

00:52:26.660 it back to like june 15th of course that's not actually the deadline either and we've you know

00:52:31.480 they've started to release guidance on how to prioritize payments on interest and principle

00:52:36.680 uh which we've been saying the whole time uh that that's that that's the case and you can actually

00:52:42.880 enough money comes in on a daily and monthly basis to where you can prioritize that so june 14th is

00:52:48.780 nowhere near the actual default either what they're trying to do is put up arbitrary deadlines to scare

00:52:54.460 republicans and essentially it's working and so like we should not have speaker mccarthy rewarding

00:53:00.540 what the biden administration has been trying to do to derail gop efforts we should be pushing

00:53:06.020 back and standing firm and holding the line wait if people want to follow you over the weekend to

00:53:11.680 get the latest where can they find you and everything that russ is working on americarenewing.com

00:53:17.300 that's americarenewing.com and of course russ vote is uh russ uh v-o-u-g-h-t uh and i'm at

00:53:24.360 wade miller underscore usmc thank you so much and thank you war room posse we will be back tonight

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Episode 2762： The Over Regulation Of Our Court System

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