Episode 3133： Crippling The Manufacturing Of The United States
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, John Avlon, to talk about the rise of the right-wing populist movement in America, and how Mitt Romney's relationship with it has changed since he ran for president in 2016.
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He sees this as a moment of a test of integrity, of character.
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His dad standing athwart history, yelling stop, right?
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Which is funny to borrow that conservative terminology because actually Mitt Romney,
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I think, inherited from this experience a distrust, a suspicion of movement conservatism, right?
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It always existed outside of it, whether it was in the 1960s with the rise of the radical
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right of the Goldwater Republicans or, you know, right now with the rise of the pro-Trump
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He is, like you said, he's a conservative, but when it manifests in this right-wing populist
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movement, he's repelled by it and he's afraid of it in some way.
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I mean, Mitt Romney is repelled at a cellular level by populism of any kind.
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He's said it a hundred times to me that, you know, for every question, there's a populist
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He's not a populist figure, but there's something specific about right-wing populism, and especially
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I think he sees in the rise of Donald Trump an echo of what his dad went through.
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He made his own pact with the devil in 2020, 2012, and of course, he did the event with Trump
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He had the advisors who taught him, you know, you need to start reading the National Review.
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You have to start paying attention to what Fox News says.
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You need to learn the language of the right so you could try to win them over.
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By the way, if you, the right-wing populists will always give you an answer that's popular
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I'd like to match up our policy beliefs with Mitt Romney's.
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One of the reasons we're in this financial debacle is Mitt Romney's been one of the big
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And by the way, the founding of Bain Capital is quite smart because you saw the consulting
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They're in there screwing up every company in the world, but management basically turns
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Why don't we raise private equity and start buying some of these things out because management's
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We keep the marketing here in the United States.
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That's what private equity and the oligarchs on Wall Street did.
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There's a, remember there's a 22 minute film done about that in, came out in January's
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I think Boston, those guys, they put it out in January, if you remember this, of 2012.
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And for a moment, Mitt Romney's on his back feet about what Bain Capital, the King of Bain,
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I think it was called, about what Bain Capital had done to the country and particularly manufacturing
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jobs in, oh, I'm going to pick some random places like Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
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He was on his back foot, couldn't have an answer to it.
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And for a minute, remember, Newt became a populist and actually won in South Carolina.
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Newt Gingrich, for one small moment in time, was a populist.
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Then, of course, he went back to his neoliberal, neocon ways and got smoked in Florida.
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And that was, that was Katie barred the door.
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You have to remember, and going back to 2012, Romney and Paul Ryan, because of their, their
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polling on election night, all the big fat cat billionaire donors all went in, they were
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And to celebrate victory, their numbers, Paul Singer, all the Mercers, all of them were up
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They had the polling, they thought they were going to win, they were there to celebrate.
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Paul Ryan had done the first 100-day plan, they were all ready to go.
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I think it was in May, when the Wall Street Journal later talked about how Obama had, you
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know, Obama had pivoted to really the weakness of Mitt Romney, that he did not connect with
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He did not connect like Trump would eventually.
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And they had one of those group things, I was on Hannity, and they asked for the hands
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to go up of who thought Romney would not win, I was the only hand that went up.
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I'll get the clip, we should play that clip one day.
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And they're like, oh, what do you get, this guy, you know, Obama's terrible.
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I said, yeah, Obama may be terrible, but you have not convinced people that you're an alternative.
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That is festered with him forever, that's festered with him, not my raising a hand, what's festered
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is that the Tea Party movement and other elements of the populist movement did not respond to
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his call because he never reached out to him, he didn't speak, he spoke in this weird nomenclature
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He says the answer, right-wing populism, McKay Coppins, Romney repeats to him all the time,
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So, I'd like to tell us what's wrong on the invasion of the southern border, on capital
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markets and about the economy and about the debt, would you have been a driver with Biden?
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On national security policy, we'd love to see your prescriptions, which we see every
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day, that is kind of weird, neoliberal, neocon, that clearly is not working and destroying
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This is the problem, and this is what happened when we first had, when we won and we had
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Romney, you remember at Bedminster we had everybody come in, President Trump had him come
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in and we invited Romney in to talk about being Secretary of State.
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And in the first meeting, he didn't know anything.
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He's that kind of guy that's got to go back, you know, he's got to get, you've seen him
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since you've been going to school, the kids have got to do the 50 hours of homework, where
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maybe in junior classes, some of us may have been phoning it in.
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He had to go back, and then he has to memorize everything, and then he has a world view.
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Tulsi Gabbard was 1,000% more impressive in the initial interviews, 1,000%, knew so much
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more about the world in a deep, deep understanding.
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Mitt Romney's kind of a clown, just kind of a clown.
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But that's what's been put up, because he looks like a president, he's got this aristocratic
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bearing, it's an empty shell, it's a nothing, it's nothing there, nothing there.
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And we're in a nation, in a crisis, you can't go back to this.
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This is why, one of the reasons they hate Trump is Trump's style.
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You see him walking out of the court in New York, he's throwing down, a guy's trying to
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gag him, Trump doesn't care, gag this, $10,000 fine, he doesn't care.
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They're trying to lick him, trying to put him in prison for 700 years.
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Would the established order ever try to put Mittens Romney in prison for 700 years?
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This is all those Republicans, the unmasking that's gone on in the last couple weeks, and
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Don't look at me, just go back from January, look at everything they tried to do.
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You would not be here with Mike Johnson in a biblical worldview and a new change of leadership
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If Fox had had the way, you would have had the exact same, oh, it's chaos, it's chaos.
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What you had was chaos, and what you supported was chaos.
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Mike Johnson and the team he's putting around him and what Gates have done and these folks
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have done, we're going to have Eli Crane on here in a little while, that's the still point
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The chaos is what you provided, and you lied to people, and you just repeat over and over
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again, like propaganda, the stupid RNC talking points.
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I hate to be blunt like that, but we're fighting for our country, so it's take no prisoners.
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Let me bring in Mike Lindell, another guy that's trying to liquidate.
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Mike, tell me, you've had your own tussles for Fox, but we'll leave that for another day.
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Tell me about how we're doing on the factory floor.
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What we care about is full capacity, and the operators that are working are not being shut
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I have one of our few retailers that are left, everybody, canceled their POs.
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We already had their product made, their pillows made.
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I don't know why yet, so I'm not going to throw their name out there yet, but believe
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We've also been attacked by artificial intelligence on my Lindell Offense Fund site, so they're
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But we're getting through with, we're fighting back by giving the War Room Posse a sale, Steve.
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That's what my employees were making for these box stores.
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So we're going to, we have those on sale for you too.
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Well, why, when they come back now, I mean, we know Walmart and, and, and the big box early on.
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But even the existing retailers, is it because you're still fighting?
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Because, look, Mike Johnson, and Fox has got to hate this.
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Mike Johnson was the chief intellectual architect, along with Ken Paxton and those guys,
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but at the, at the congressional level, of writing the amicus brief and getting guys on board
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because Mike Johnson knew the election was stolen.
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That's got to be quite, besides his biblical worldview, that's got to be quite uncomfortable
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They did more damage by, by, by giving these guys a billion dollars in surrendering than
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I mean, you could argue, and Mike, I, I, I know this goes to your core, but you could argue
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the machine companies are winning in a, in, in a huge way because Fox wrote them a billion
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dollar check and, and, and kind of groveled to them on an apology.
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So Mike Johnson coming up is, is not just as biblical.
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I think that's like giving money to yourself, Steve.
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I believe Fox was in on it all along and, uh, away, going way back to calling Arizona
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I mean, they did things that don't make sense and, uh, they want, I think they're all part
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of the unit party and we've got great things going on now and we are winning and, uh, that's
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why they're attacking me the last two months since the summit we had for, to secure our
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I've been under full blown attack and what a better way than to try and destroy my pillow
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so you take away my voice, but it's not happening.
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Uh, we're, we're, uh, we are winning and, uh, it may like, you know, you don't, you're
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not going to see it on Fox news that we're winning, Steve.
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They're not going to tell anybody the, the good things that are going on.
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Um, and, uh, and that, uh, having new, having new leadership is going to change everything.
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You guys are going to see over this next year, so many great things happening.
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Uh, and just want everybody to keep the faith and keep the, keep the hope.
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I'm, I see if you know me, I'm the most optimistic person you'll probably ever see.
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And, uh, but there's a lot of reason to be optimistic right now.
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We've got where the dominoes are going to fall and, uh, and we're gonna, we're going
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What do you think about having someone like a Mike Johnson, who's a very devout Baptist
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and has a very, a very profound understanding and belief in the, the tenets of the Judeo
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Christian West and is, is, is puts his, his faith, his Christianity as the centerpiece
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And, uh, uh, you couldn't, I don't think you could have picked anyone better.
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Um, you know, he's, he's, he's going to look, obviously they'll look into finally look into
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Um, and when you base things on, on your faith and with Jesus Christ and you're basing stuff
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on that, like me, I pray every morning about what I'm going to do.
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I pray for, um, uh, answers, wisdom, and, uh, and everyone can say, well, boy, you make
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some bad decisions, Mike, you've made some bad decisions.
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No, that was in the past when I used to be an addict and, and I was making very bad decisions.
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Now you might not understand the decisions that are made, but, uh, we can be proactive
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in prayer now and, and they line up beautifully with God's word.
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And I think it's what our country needed and, uh, uh, having the war room posse and them
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all out there and everybody putting pressure on, on, uh, on Congress.
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And, uh, it's, you know, we're winning and it's because all of us, it's not just, uh, a
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few now, everybody courage is contagious and, and everybody's stepping up and that's awesome.
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Uh, Mike, uh, the number is 800-873-1062, uh, mypillow.com.
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Look forward to having you back on here tonight.
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It's only worked for 5,000 years of mankind's history.
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Hopefully going to join us here in a few minutes, and we'll be able to get a complete breakdown
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Eli, remember one of the reasons, and I guess we'll have to play it on the afternoon show
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Let's pull the camera back for a second and make sure we know where we are.
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They were so shocked and stunned that Trump came out of nowhere in 16 and won the presidency.
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And then they had the nullification project right away, all of it, to try to nullify his victory
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and to make sure he couldn't govern and couldn't shift the country back to America first.
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Then in 20, when he won 74 million votes, 74 million votes, just still breathtaking.
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And they stole the election because we know they stole the election, and they know we know
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Just with your own eyes and your own experience of the evidence you've seen, I'll leave it to that.
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In the, in the, after Trump left, remember, Fox buried, by the way, Fox News will not do
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a live interview with President Trump right now, but that was reported the other day.
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Remember, their boys have been McCarthy and Jordan.
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Let's face it, Jordan is on there every night, every night, every night, just like Lindsey
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Graham, every night, every night, reporting, just going over and over again, the talking
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points, over and over again, the talking points, no subpoenas, no real advance.
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You know, he and Comer all the time, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, we're
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going to, nothing happening, because McCarthy, behind the scenes, didn't want it to happen
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You've got to remember when Trump went back to Mar-a-Lago, think about that day, the 20th
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Remember, we had Boris at the, Boris was at Andrews Air Force Base, we saw the plane
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take off, and we were, this show was the rally point.
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You, the audience, the hardcore, the hardest core of the Trump's followers, who knew that
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he had won the election, and who knew if we rallied, he would come back and win again.
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Do you think there were many believers back then?
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They immediately went to murder, DeSantis, all the time, because every other day there was
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It turned out all to be for naught, this is, what Fox does does not help.
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It hinders, because look at DeSantis, it's terrible for him, because it was all phony.
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He wasn't prepared, and they didn't help prepare him by asking tough questions, or coming in
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The amount of money, what, $150 million for nothing.
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He's barely hanging on in Iowa, where they put their whole staff.
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By saying that we were the agents of chaos, and saying that McCarthy's the villain, we
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have to get back, remember, we have to get, back in January, we have to get back to work.
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We have to get back, because we have to impeach Mayorkas.
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Remember they made that pitch, that you're going to slow down, all the impeachment is going
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Remember when they came back, when McCarthy came back, and went on Maria Bartiroma back
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in September, and tried to sell the fact, we can't, we can't have a, we have to have
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a CR, you can't shut down the government, because then we're going to slow down the impeachment
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They put a shiny toy out, thinking you're a moron.
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Now, because Trump's up in all the polling, and he's building momentum every day, and he's
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never on Fox, and they won't do a live interview where they will sit there and slobber all over
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Nikki Haley, and slobber all over Tim Scott, and slobber still over the sanctimonious.
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They'll have him on when they have to have him on.
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And the RNC's putting all the money with these donors to still look for an alternative.
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They're having NBC News and Hugh Hewitt, the most establishment of everybody, on NBC down
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in Miami, on another huge waste of money as a diversion.
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If it had not been for you, none of it would have happened.
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When they're saying that, double down, triple down.
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The only way we're going to save the country is smash mouth.
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But it's not that you're going to get in fist fights with people, but you can't back off
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They went through a 10-minute meltdown on Mike Johnson.
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And Vanity Fair had a huge, like, a cover story.
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When I say devout, I mean his whole life revolves around his belief in our Lord and Savior, Jesus
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He fought these fights in these courts with no money.
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No money fighting, defending the Constitution, defending the Christians.
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And now, remember, what we warned you about is that domestic terrorism are going to go
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That we actually get back to the biblical worldview that founded this nation and built this nation
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into the greatest nation in the history of the earth, freed more people, created more
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prosperity for working people, not just the wealthy, for working people, and to have it
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devolve into what is devolved in, an oligarchy, with the Federal Reserve and the entire system
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that enriches them at your expense, and to add insult to injury, then to protect their empire,
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to send your sons and daughters onto foreign battlefields, not for victory, not for victory,
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but to defend their post-war international rules-based order, which is just a system set up to enrich
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themselves and to allow in the most brutal dictatorship in the history of mankind, the
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They kissed the Chinese Communist Party's ass with their post-war international rules-based
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rules-based to make you wealthy and to allow in murderous dictatorships into the game and
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to be able to, the murderous dictators to make money and everybody else be suppressed.
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We reject the fact that Europe's a protectorate of the United States of America.
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If they're going to be an ally, stand up to be an ally.
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And you see right now from Slovakia to all of them, they don't want to put in any more
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money and they don't want to send any more arms.
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In the Middle East, where we've had nothing but protectorates, how that worked out for
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we're on every side of the trade in the Middle East.
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We're giving almost as much money as we give Israel.
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We give that we're underwriting the Saudis' defense.
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Where they're skimming their money and they're putting their money into the west end of
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You go to Belgravia, the most expensive, or Mayfair.
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It's all the oligarchs' money flowing in there.
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That's the world we reject because, and you can reject it.
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This is why Johnson said, here's the fear, and you can smell the fear now.
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And you're bringing more people to be awakened because upon you, the entire system rests on
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You underwrite it all with your taxes, your hard labor and your taxes, but also your insurance
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They use that to ship the jobs off and to fight these forever wars.
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And it takes your sons and daughters to be expended on these foreign battlefields.
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And mock, don't even have the common courtesy to even fake it like your values are okay and
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we'll play along and let the breathing through the mouth Christians, we'll toss them a few
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and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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That's the thing that drives them the most because they're demonic.
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That's the thing that drives them the most, drives them crazy the most.
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If they were smart, they'd play along, let the Christians have their little things, let
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them have prayer in school, let them have all this, let them go do the thing because
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they're the proletariat that are underwriting the system.
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That's where they come after the nuclear family.
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That's where they come after every value that you hold dear.
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This is a good Christian man with a good family and a sacrifice in the material world to defend
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I mean defended to defend the basics of our society, the underlying values to defend it
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He represents everything they hate and detest and now it's taken power in the imperial
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capital and it took power for only one reason and never forget this.
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You, you, you, the foreigner, the foreign anti-Christian Murdoch clan fought this tooth
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They had all the power with the lobbyists, all the power and you beat them.
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And don't think behind closed doors they're not working on how they're going to rewire
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that because they've made a blood pact never to let Trump return because in Trump returning
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you then have the House, you have the White House and you will soon have the Senate and
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But, um, but this is just a tool because it actually started when the debt ceiling, Steve
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We couldn't have a better guest today about biblical worldview.
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Uh, we started the show by the complete meltdown of morning Joe, morning Mika and all these
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They're, they're losing it about Johnson because in his interviews, he's saying, Hey, you want
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Everybody in town, all the lobbyists are right.
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Uh, and I did want to come say thank you to the war room audience, the posse for all your
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Last couple of weeks have been kind of difficult, uh, for the eight of us.
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You guys have been so uplifting, so encouraging.
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We get your messages, your emails, your social media, and it, it means a lot when everybody
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Um, but Steve, when you're talking about Mike Johnson, his worldview and the left and the
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mainstream melting down, it is of no surprise to me at all.
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Um, from Ephesians 6, 12, it says, for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against
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principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against
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spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places.
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And, you know, it's been something that I talk about with my voters on the campaign
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trail all the time, everything that you see going on around the world.
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And one of the reasons you see chaos around the world, all of it has spiritual foundation
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And this, this whole spat with Mike Johnson threatening, you know, their plans, their
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agenda, it's just another chapter in this spiritual war.
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And it's why it's so important that this audience and that the American people pray for Mike
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Johnson, pray for his staff, pray for, you know, their representatives and the men and
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women that are waging war, um, on the front lines, because it is all spiritual brother
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I want to go back to Ephesians to the spiritual war.
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You've been called and people don't understand what you see happen to these guys in public
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and on Fox and this other thing with Karl Rove and in the Wall Street Journal is one
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one hundredth that's happening behind the scenes where they're, they're being attacked
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You personally, because of your stand, you're one of the mag six in the heart eight.
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Um, yet you delivered by standing your ground, you delivered really the beginning of a change
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in leadership that puts a biblical worldview at the center of American power.
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Tell me about, they're the agents of chaos, but they blamed you on being the agent of
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You know, and that's, I referenced it a second ago, Steve, you know, and this has been going
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on since I got into Congress just because of, you know, how my, my start into Congress
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started with the speaker fight back in January.
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But, you know, having guys like Newt Gingrich sit there on Fox News and call me a traitor
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after I dropped out of school my senior year to enlist the week after 9-11 and go fight
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And for all the other minions on Murdoch News that have the audacity to say something like
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that to me, hey, let's, let's go, let's go compare resumes any day of the week.
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Let's go, let's go compare how much you've sacrificed for this country, how many friends
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you've lost for this country and what you were willing to put on the line for this country.
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I'll do it with, I'll do it with any of you, you know, but it, it, it is so important that
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And, you know, just some inside baseball, Steve, as you know, I've been cussed out, threatened.
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You know, I've been prayed over multiple times here, people trying to cast the demons out
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And it's just, it's rich because it's like, I know that the American people do not, are,
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And so, you know, common sense tells me, Steve, if you come to this town and you're hated
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and they can't stand the side of you, that's probably a good thing.
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And so I'm honored to serve with some, some Patriots that aren't willing to back down, that
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are willing to go toe to toe and fight every single day.
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You know, you got the Andy Biggs is the Matt Rosendales, the Matt Gates is of the world.
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You know, we had Tim Burchett in, in this last one, Nancy Mace, you know, stood up with
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us in this last one, you know, all, all of them.
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You know, and one of the coolest things, Steve, when Mike Johnson got the nomination
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in conference, one of the things that really, you know, I, I don't know, I didn't know Mike
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really well, but it re really, uh, piqued my attention, brother, when he got up to the
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mic and he, the first thing he did was he started talking about his faith.
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And he said, he said, we are, God has put us all here for a reason.
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And he quoted a scripture that I've, that I have heard.
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And, and I talk about before, and it says, you know, the Lord, um, you know, tears Kings
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And I do believe that Mike Johnson is here for a reason.
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I don't know, you know, how well he's going to do as a speaker, but I'm willing to give
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And from everything that I see so far, there's no doubt in my mind, Steve, that you, your
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audience and everybody that stood on the front line of this fight made this conference better
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and has given this country a better chance to prosper.
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Eli, um, you're a man of very deep and abiding faith.
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And as I've gotten to know you better, I understand that that faith is to the core of your, your,
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Like when we opened a day with morning journeys, people just losing it on Mike Johnson being
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Cause most people, particularly lower information people would think, well, hold it.
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We're, we're the beacon of, of religious freedom.
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We're, we're, we've been, uh, we're part of the, we're the, we're the main part of the
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Judeo Christian West and we were founded as a Christian nation.
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Can you just compare and contrast the worldview of yourself and the Mike Johnson's of the world
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and the people that are committed, uh, Christians that live their Christianity every day versus
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the worldview that actually runs our nation's Capitol?
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Steven, many of them still won't say it out loud.
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The, the opposition to, I think Christianity, they, they won't say it out loud because I
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think they still, they still understand that that would maybe hurt their polling numbers
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or that the American people are still very protective of religious liberty, freedom of
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But I mean, you see it, you see it everywhere you look, right?
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When I, when I, when I opened my Bible and I know Mr. Johnson reads his, um, you know,
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in the very first book, the Lord says, I created the male and female.
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No, no, this world says, no, there's, there's, there's 3000 genders.
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Now we're just going to go ahead and we're just going to go ahead and make up whatever
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And it's in complete opposition to everything, you know, that, that God has designed and
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And that's why I read Ephesians when, when I opened up, because this is a spiritual war.
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Uh, and, and I'm going to give you a couple other scriptures, Steve, to kind of paint the
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context, you know, for, and I know many of your listeners understand this, but John 10,
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10 says the thief has come to steal, kill, and destroy.
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I see a lot of things, you know, be, being destroyed.
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First Peter five, eight says, um, be alert and of sober mind for your enemy.
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The devil prowls the earth like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.
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Tell me that's not happening, Steve, in America right now.
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And, you know, it's really, you know, Steve, when I was in, when I was in the SEAL teams,
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I was, uh, towards the end of my career, I was a sniper and we had four sniper rifles,
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And then I had, I think, you know, in my custody, I probably had eight or nine different weapons
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Not one of those weapons would do a damn thing in this spiritual fight that, that we
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But I tell you what, knowing, knowing the word of God is effective.
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And in my opinion, that's, that's the bedrock that many of the men and women that you see
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up here in Capitol Hill fighting for the American people.
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You know, we are constantly talking about, um, you know, the word of God.
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And I, and I know the enemy, oh man, their heads are blowing up right now, brother.
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And I'm going to tell you this, Steve, right now, like if, if I know there's a lot of people
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probably listening to this show that don't believe, you know, agree with my faith or
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believe with anything that, that I'm saying, and that's okay.
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I'm glad you have the right to believe whatever you want.
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I fought for your right to believe whatever you want and I'll defend your right to believe
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I'm going to take this one step further as we go into geopolitics, this spiritual war that
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I'm talking about, um, that this Bible that Mike Johnson, you know, is, is talking
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The one I read, this whole thing is the whole Bible is Jerusalem Israel centric.
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And there's a reason that that piece of, that piece of ground in the middle East is the most
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contested piece of ground in the history of the world.
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And it's why you saw an attack so demonic and so sadistic that most people can't even
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Why would people, why would people go and do that to innocent civilians, babies, families?
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And then why would you see, why would you see massive protests all over the world, all
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Make some sense of that to me without understanding the spirituality of it.
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Eli, I want to, if I can hold you through Congressman, uh, Crane, if we could just hold you through
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the break, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
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Uh, Congressman Crane, we're gonna talk geopolitics.
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He's a, a practitioner of the tough arts of freedom.
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He's dedicated his life in the Middle East for many, many, many years in defense of freedom.
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Uh, and he's got a very unique take on where we are today geopolitically.
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We're going to return with, uh, Eli Crane in just a moment.
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I think the Palestinians are saying that the big hospital there, the Israelis are saying,
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IDF saying there is a massive tunnel underneath and maybe one of the command posts for the
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Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and they're going to attack it.
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So today, trust me, this is going to get ramped up.
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Eli, people look to you because you've not just talked the talk.
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You've walked the walk in your defense of this country and our liberties in the Middle East
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and some of the nastiest, gnarliest times that we've had.
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I want to get to Ukraine in a second, but I definitely want to get your take on, and people
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I understand that two-thirds of our audience wants no money to Ukraine, and they're questioning
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this commitment to Israel, what it really means, et cetera.
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Well, yeah, and I totally understand that perspective as well, Steve.
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I mean, I think that when you are in the spot that we're in as a country, when you're $33
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trillion in debt and you have a $2 trillion annual deficit, and it seems like every single
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time something kicks off around the world, you know, America, we get front-side focus
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on it, and we send all of our resources and our treasure, you know, there, and yet we could
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care less about, you know, our own citizens, that we could care less about the southern
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border, we could care less about the families dying of fentanyl.
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And so I totally understand that perspective, and it's something that I've said multiple times
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now, you know, publicly since this war in Israel has kicked off, that we need to be very cautious
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in how we proceed, and we need to make sure that our focus and our priority is still the
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American people, as it should be, as it always should be.
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But, you know, that being said, as a man of faith, and Steve, when I talk about my faith,
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one of the reasons I am a man of faith is because, and one of the reasons I'm a Christian
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So I don't think I'm holier than thou or anything like that.
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As a matter of fact, I accepted Christ into my heart because I wanted Him to do for me what
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I wanted Him to trade His perfect, sinless life for, you know, my sinful one.
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And so, please, when I talk about my faith, please understand that, you know, there's a lot
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of humility there, and, you know, I needed that salvation.
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But when I look at what's, as a man of faith, when I look, and when I open my Bible, and
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we've been talking about that a lot on this little segment, one of the very, the very first
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book of the Bible, it says that, God says that, I will bless those who bless Israel, and
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So, okay, so, you know, Steve, if I'm on the right path, and I'm right about my faith,
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and one day I meet God at the end, at the end of it all, I think that will be one of
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I want, I want the Lord to say, you know, you, Eli, you care, son, you cared about the
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things that I cared about, and you fought for the things that I care about, and the
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And, you know, like I said, the whole book is based around and centered around Jerusalem
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and Israel, and God's love and His covenant for His people.
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Now, I know a lot of the Western church, you know, there's replacement theology out there,
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and a bunch of other doctrines and theories that basically say, oh, those covenants don't
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matter anymore, you know, God's replaced, you know, Israel, you know, with Americans or
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Western culture, whatever, I don't buy it for a second, but that's okay, I respect everybody's
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But Israel is different to me than anywhere else on the face of the earth, and I'll tell
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Because I think it's different to God than anywhere else on the face of the earth.
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And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't, because I'm a man of faith and because I believe
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the scriptures that I read, I think that God still has a covenant and a concern and even
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And so, I think we need to be cautious, and we need to be very level-headed, and we need
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to count the cost, which we're not very good at.
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But I also think, and we have supported Israel, we're supporting Israel right now, and I do believe
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I would love to see that be material support resources, but I'm not a big fan of, you know,
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us going in there and, you know, putting boots on the ground and trying to escalate this thing.
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And I've been clear about that from the beginning, because as this thing kicks off and escalates,
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this has the potential to turn into, you know, something that we've been concerned about
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with the Ukraine-Russia war, and that's World War III.
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And many of the people that are pushing that and champions for that, Steve, have never gone
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They've never seen little kids grow up without their dad.
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And it's very unfortunate, and, you know, I think it's a problem when you have, you know,
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these people that we call war hawks or neocons that are constantly pushing the next, you know,
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the next fight, the next fight, the next fight.
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And you know how many layers there are to it, Steve, when you look at some of the, you know,
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how the defense contractors are funding many of their campaigns and stuff like that.
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But this is one of those interesting times where, you know, for me personally, there is
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a conflict because of my faith and being an America First candidate, you know.
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And so I think we need to be cautious and level-headed.
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Is there going to be a big, intense debate inside the conference on Ukraine, on Israel,
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Are we now going to have a real debate internally with you guys and not just have McCarthy jamming
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We've always been on the short end of the stick just because of our numbers.
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The posse has definitely helped with that in blowing up people's phones.
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And I'm so proud of Grace and, you know, her friend for developing that app.
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I think it's going to be huge in making sure that the American people are heard on it.
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And, you know, I don't know, you know, how radically this conference is going to change
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under the leadership of Mike Johnson and Steve, but I'm already seeing positive signs and that
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I think it's going to change, you know, you know, by a couple degrees here and there.
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And, you know, I'm pretty grateful that I think that we got an upgrade for the American people.
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Eli, real quickly, your social media, where do people go to find more about you?
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Rep Eli Crane and Steve, I just wanted to say thank you so much, brother, for all that you do.
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