Dana Bash and Jake Sherman join me to talk about what's going on in Washington and why it's so hard to get things done in Washington, including the ongoing impasse over aid to Israel, Ukraine, and other issues.
00:03:23.520Well, we're going to have votes on George Santos, on Rashida Tlaib, on Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:03:29.860And now we're going to have a show vote on aid to Israel.
00:03:33.180So even though they're technically functioning, the House doesn't seem to be functioning at all.
00:03:38.580And, yeah, as I argued in this book, this was a long time in coming, going back to, you know,
00:03:42.880you remember those days of Newt Gingrich and the beginnings of the shutdowns in the House
00:03:48.860and the beginnings of this sort of constant daily warfare.
00:03:52.860And this is, you know, built over a period of time.
00:03:56.060And now you've got sort of the critical mass of people in the House who are all about creating this warfare.
00:04:02.860You know, as Jake was just pointing out, there's no logic to what they're doing to try to offset the Israel aid.
00:04:09.640It's simply to throw some red meat to the fox crowd if they even care about it.
00:04:15.340It's simply to gum up the works for the sake of it, just to make a protest.
00:04:20.820Our Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin are scheduled to testify
00:04:26.300before the Senate Appropriations Committee about President Biden's request for aid to Israel, Ukraine,
00:04:33.240and other key areas regarding national security.
00:04:36.800That comes, as we were discussing, with the House Republicans setting up a false choice with its own funding bill.
00:04:44.300Joining us now, co-founder of Punchbowl News, Jake Sherman, live from Capitol Hill.
00:04:49.940So tell us about this proposal that doesn't include Ukraine, but definitely includes billionaires getting some breaks.
00:04:59.240I can tell you, Mika, there's a deep, not a deep divide, but certainly a divide in House Republican leadership
00:05:04.160over the way this has been handled by Speaker Mike Johnson, who is new.
00:05:08.440This is his first full week on the job.
00:05:09.940But Republicans have decided to slash $14.3 billion from IRS funding that was in the Inflation Reduction Act to pay for this Israel funding.
00:05:19.660Let's talk about this from many levels.
00:05:21.580Number one, emergency aid like this is usually not paid for.
00:05:26.000Whether that's good or bad, other people could decide, but it's usually not paid for.
00:05:29.860Number two, it's very difficult to argue that this is urgent aid when you put a pay-for, an offset, into the bill that has no chance of passing the Senate.
00:05:40.800The Senate Democrats are not going to go for this.
00:06:25.560You just mentioned how this has no chance of passing the Senate, even if we can get through the House.
00:06:29.820Talk to us, though, about this emerging divide between Speaker Johnson and Minority Leader McConnell, Republicans who are on very different sides of this issue.
00:06:37.660Yeah, this is a, I mean, listen, Mitch McConnell has made very clear that he wants Ukraine aid and Israel aid to ride together.
00:06:52.100But listen, Republicans have made the argument for months now that Ukraine aid should get a separate vote.
00:06:57.660And I think, listen, to be honest with you, if you're somebody who wants Ukraine aid, you're going to have to be OK with it in a separate vote in the House.
00:07:03.960Because Mike Johnson could not put it on.
00:07:06.140I don't think it would pass on the floor if it were together.
00:07:20.400It complicates the entire mess of funding that House Republicans and Senate and the Senate have to get around in the next couple of months.
00:07:28.460I don't I don't know who I haven't been able to figure out who is clamoring for this Israel aid to be offset, because it's it would have to be an incredibly small pocket of the House Republican conference if it exists at all.
00:07:41.700I mean, I know Tom Massey, Chip Roy, Marjorie Taylor Greene have been critical of spending more money.
00:07:48.320Hey, MTG and Tom Massey said they will vote no simply on the Ukraine.
00:07:54.660But I don't hear a big uprising of people who are suggesting that this aid needs to be offset.
00:07:59.420You know, the title of your book is so appropriate to deconstructionist, because I always tell the story of my family, which, you know, from the South, lifelong Democrats became, you know, Republicans.
00:08:12.200When, you know, people were trying to levitate the Pentagon and, you know, burning draft cards and attacking all of these institutions.
00:08:22.480And, you know, the deconstructionists reminds me, Edmund Burke, quote, I love of Edmund Burke's that I think applies, unfortunately, tragically to these Republicans.
00:08:32.720And Burke, the founder of modern conservatism, said institutions that took centuries to be built up can be torn down in a day.
00:08:43.140And you look at the attacks from the far right on the, quote, woke Pentagon.
00:08:49.600You look at the attacks on the far right on the FBI, defunding the FBI, on the Department of Justice.
00:08:56.180They are going after the institutions, the American institutions, and trying to tear them down.
00:09:06.300And then having gone after the Pentagon, after the FBI, after DOJ, after the IRS, they are also bringing down the very institution in which they're serving by bringing the House of Representatives to its knees.
00:09:21.940You know, and unfortunately, it's a perfectly logical thing for the Chip Roy's and the Matt Gaetz's of the world to be doing because the vast majority of these guys overwhelmingly safe red districts.
00:09:33.760The only risk to them is getting bumped out in a primary.
00:09:37.400So there's just no downside to being the most obnoxious person you can be on the right wing so nobody can outflank you.
00:09:45.340Congressman Matt Gaetz hosted a campaign rally in the bar tonight.
00:09:49.140Gaetz met by a couple of hundred of his supporters.
00:09:50.960Bob, it was a packed crowd, and Gaetz drummed up support tonight in his district.
00:10:05.940We need the clean house in Washington, and we need to go by the Constitution, by the letter of the law, and by what's right for the people.
00:10:15.260We support everything he represents for this area and for the country.
00:10:20.960This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:10:41.040Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:10:47.440Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:10:51.720The people have had a belly full of it.
00:12:51.300And the idea is to get to the northern borders of the United States of America.
00:12:54.960They walk to another municipal city that is called Huehuetan, which they are going to wait for the authorities of Mexico to see if they're going to get the permits so they can walk to the northern borders.
00:13:04.280The majority of the men later on yesterday, civil protection did a census, and the majority is military-aged men between 19 and 30 years of age, sir.
00:13:16.100That is what this caravan is carrying.
00:13:17.940They're carrying children and women, but the majority, it is men, sir.
00:13:20.640Oscar, don't they know, haven't they gotten the word that the border is closed?
00:13:26.620According to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in 60 Minutes, the border is closed.
00:13:29.900Has the word not filtered down to these souls yet, Oscar Blue Ramirez?
00:13:39.160And as we have seen from the Darien Gap, we have interviewed people from Afghanistan, from Nepal, from Vietnam, from all parts of the world.
00:13:48.260And they have said, all of them, that they are going to the United States of America basically because Joe Biden invited them and because the border is open.
00:13:55.380And now, on this particular caravan, as I was saying yesterday, I've been doing some interviews this morning, and all of them, they're saying, if the CBP app is not working, we're going to jump the wall, we're going to cross the river, we're going to go through whatever resource so we can deliver ourselves to the authorities of the United States.
00:14:10.740They already know that if they enter illegally into the United States, they're going to be admitted and vetted, and then they're going to be released into the population, sir.
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00:16:43.720Mr. Chairman, Chair Murray, Vice Chair Collins, distinguished members of the Appropriations Committee, thank you for this opportunity to testify before you today.
00:16:53.080The legal convention prohibits the bombing of deadly populated areas.
00:17:00.580Stop supporting the genocide and every country of the people of Gaza.
00:18:33.120Look, and I will say this, Israel and the American Jewish community here in the United States are losing the information war, big league, which is pretty shocking.
00:18:43.720Not going through the situation they had with judiciary and, you know, the color revolution going on over there.
00:18:54.900Somebody took their eye off the ball big time, big time, because they're having the tables run on them.
00:19:03.320Today, I think it was Times of Israel broke that there's the intelligence services said that the Gazans, their recommendations, the Gazans go, they build a tent city in Sinai, where the Egyptians said, we're not taking these Palestinians.
00:19:21.220Jordan has said, we're not taking these Palestinians.
00:19:23.020You know, right now, CNN is reporting IDF is in the tunnels.
00:19:28.800They're in the military complex, clearing it out in the north.
00:19:32.960The United Nations is calling it on the verge.
00:25:21.220We have a FOIA lawyer on staff who is a bulldog on this stuff.
00:25:27.300He never lets them go one single day with any piece.
00:25:30.240So we have another lawsuit we just filed over at the center for all the information about the 270 people on the terror watch list who just crossed the border in this mass migration crisis.
00:27:20.700We must shut this government down, hard down, until they stop the invasion on the southern border.
00:27:29.300It's time to start playing smash mouth with this government.
00:27:33.340They're up in your face, and they're laughing.
00:27:34.800I understand, and I applaud your patience and persistence and patriotism of you and your organization to do this every day and do the four-year quest every day, right?
00:27:54.160But now we've got to go next order because they're laughing at you.
00:27:59.620They know exactly what they're doing, and they're going to dare you.
00:28:02.340They're going to dare you to deport one person.
00:28:05.220Okay, we're going to deport all 10 million, and we're going to bring criminal charges, criminal charges for everyone.
00:28:12.260Everyone in the system right now understands.
00:28:14.660You're like you're the equivalent right now.
00:28:16.980If you're assisting, this is not the brave Border Patrol and ICE, but if you're one of these guys in DHS, in the administration, if you're one of these guys in the White House, you're one of the guys in the Justice Department, you are no different than Himmler's SS guards.
00:28:32.740You're just as guilty as they were in what the Nazis did.
00:28:36.100You're not going to say, oh, I didn't know.
00:30:18.280I think their plan is to work through the weekend.
00:30:20.600We're going to be here the entire time.
00:30:21.900Obviously, we're going to have a big special to be able to announce in the next couple of days on Saturday also as we do a live coverage of what's happening on Capitol Hill because these fights are going to be quite intense.
00:30:35.340If you think it's turbulent right now in the capital markets, you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:30:40.060Janet Yellen, you heard it first in the war room, and you heard it months ago.
00:30:43.240I told you they were going to be setting records because they're lying about the deficits.
00:30:50.460Janet Yellen just announced yesterday, and, of course, CNBC gave the wrong headline.
00:30:55.700They said they've got to sell almost a trillion dollars, $886 billion of new government bonds to finance this fiasco.
00:31:03.900They left out that the Treasury also announced they're going to sell, I don't know, maybe $700 billion or more in the first quarter of next year.
00:31:13.640That's $1.5 trillion in the next five months.
00:31:19.100That's $1.5 trillion of new government bonds, not the refinancing, the new government bonds, the new bonds for the new deficits, for the new overspending that they're up there.
00:31:30.500Mitch McConnell is trying to jam through, $80 billion.
00:31:32.760People in Kentucky, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, should be embarrassed.
00:33:04.880Benzman, your book, Overrun, has got the most incredible cover ever.
00:33:08.760And the book's, I think, a year old now.
00:33:12.380As we see here in October of 23, just tell me, tell the American people, when you see that footage coming through the Darien Gap and coming up through Tapachula, 6,000 a day on foot, what can we expect is going to happen to our beloved republic?
00:33:28.180Well, I see, when I see footage like this, I think to myself and look at the numbers that just not very long ago, the intelligence community warned us that we were going to have 12,000 to 18,000 entrances a day.
00:33:44.740That's like when Jay Johnson was head of DHS, he said 1,000 a day was beyond his comprehension.
00:34:28.700We're looking at maybe a half a million a month, half a million a month coming in if you count the gotaways and the ones that are airlifting in from other countries and the ones that are bringing over the bridges.
00:34:54.400But I'm saying just 500,000 a month, which is a slight – that's like the midpoint or just above the midpoint of the 12,000 to 18,000 per day, which has been tracking.
00:35:05.440That is six – today to election day, next year, it's six – I want you to embrace this, America, six million additional illegal alien invaders on top of the eight to 10.
00:35:21.760That's – you're talking 14 to 16 million.
00:35:24.240That is now bigger than North Carolina.
00:36:25.980But the father was down there on a kibbutz and was not armed.
00:36:29.460Hey, I hate to just point out some obvious facts here, and I don't see Jake Sullivan blubbering over any of the J6 people that are in prison.
00:36:40.120The mother just got put in for eight years.
00:38:51.640And we're going to have something to say about it.
00:38:53.140Not one frickin' penny for Zelensky and these crooks and criminals in Ukraine and all the conservative media fanboys,
00:39:02.420and you know exactly who they are, that cheered that on and fought our fight and fought us tooth and nail
00:39:08.760about what we did in the House of Representatives to clean this mess up.
00:39:12.920I don't see you guys every day down there on the border.
00:39:17.800You care more about other nations' border than you care about these only one border in this world that makes any difference to American citizens right now.
00:39:26.360And it's not in Gaza, and it ain't in the eastern Russian-speaking province of Ukraine.
00:39:32.700It is in the southern United States, from the Rio Grande Valley through New Mexico and Arizona all the way to Imperial Beach, California.
00:40:06.320But these are American citizens on American soil that are being killed by the Chinese Communist Party and the Mexican drug cartels and others in our government who are in collusion with them, in cahoots with them.
00:48:51.100And just to go back to something you said earlier, just a little while ago, that, you know, this is not something that can be addressed by spending more money on Border Patrol agents for processing.
00:49:07.280Remain in Mexico has been upheld by all the courts and is, in effect, all you have to do is start pushing them back into Mexico in large enough numbers, and this will stop.
00:49:20.900It might take 48 hours, maybe 72 hours for all those people in the video to realize that they're going to be stuck in Mexico.
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