00:06:53.560All you have to do is look at the videos from October 7th.
00:06:55.880If you look at the first-person accounts of the murder, the savagery, the rape, the absolute inhumane behavior toward women and children and elderly,
00:07:07.740it is despicable that somehow the world is now okay and American leadership is okay with considering, you know,
00:07:16.220talking about extended truces, extended, you know, stand-down agreements.
00:07:24.180Israel was attacked by savage force on October 7th.
00:07:27.940And Israel has got to continue fighting for itself and cannot in any way trust that Hamas or anyone backing Hamas
00:07:37.940are going to want to do anything but murder Israelis in broad daylight.
00:07:45.260There's all this news coverage out of France, out of Sweden, out of the Netherlands, of course, the mothers in Ireland.
00:07:51.780I just want to make sure people understand that this is not simply about Israel.
00:07:59.060Israelis are Jews throughout the world.
00:08:02.220In Rockefeller Center, and Boris, you're a New York City guy, you know what a tremendous tradition that is about lighting the Christmas tree.
00:08:08.900These Sharia supremacists show up and try to ruin that for the kids.
00:08:14.380I mean, what they did is they tried to shut down the traditional kickoff to Christmas in New York City.
00:08:19.620You know, what's your take on where, you know, why is the world not connecting the Sharia supremacism in the Civil War in France,
00:08:33.540what's going on with these North African and Middle Eastern immigrants in Ireland,
00:08:40.700what's happening in Sweden right now, Gert Wilders, and what's happening in New York City?
00:08:46.020The reason the world isn't connecting is because most mainstream media doesn't want the world to connect it.
00:08:54.620But it is clear as to anybody who bothers to take a half a look that the real story,
00:09:00.500the real issue here is that Sharia law, far extreme, extreme jihadi terrorism,
00:09:13.840but also deep anti-Semitism all over the world and here in the United States have now connected.
00:09:19.580And the result, Steve, as you said, is what's happening on the streets of New York,
00:09:23.560what's happening in Ireland, obviously what happened in Israel.
00:09:26.220And the only way to fight it is with strength. It is not with weakness. It's not with collaborationism.
00:09:32.500It is not with appeasement. It is with strength.
00:09:35.920Strength that President Donald J. Trump exhibited in four years.
00:09:39.640And all this will exhibit again when he's back in the White House.
00:09:42.620Strength that the Israeli founders exhibited, that Israeli fighters exhibited in 1967 and 1973.
00:10:13.060And to any liberal Jew in America or around the world, you need to be looking at yourself in the mirror.
00:10:19.580And I've been saying this, I'm proud to have been saying this on the show for years and years and years.
00:10:24.180Look at yourselves in the mirror and think about whether all of that nonsense about, oh, we're all the same and the world is one and we're all friends.
00:10:34.240And, you know, DEI and all the other nonsense acronyms, all of that was worth it to end up where we are today with swastikas being drawn on Chabad all over the country and Jewish kids being unsafe going to school.
00:10:50.060Was it worth it to be backing liberals like Alana Amar or Rashida Plait?
00:10:58.900Think about it in terms of dead Jews in Israel on October 7th and scared Jews in America and all over the world.
00:11:06.160And if you are somebody who voted for liberals for years and years and years, somebody who was a collaborationist, somebody who went out there and said, well, no, it's okay.
00:11:14.280We're all the same and we're all friendly and we all, you know, we could all get along.
00:11:44.280We have absolutely no way to know who's in this country.
00:11:46.720And if you think that these terror attacks are just something that's going on over the Middle East, you are kidding yourself.
00:11:53.320Americans have to bring President Trump back to the Oval Office as soon as possible.
00:11:59.960And that is the only way that our country is going to be saved.
00:12:02.360Boris, in the next hour, we're going to go to Rome with Ben Harnwell.
00:12:07.040We're going to talk about the cover story of The Economist this week.
00:12:11.420Also report out today that Putin's approval rating in Russia is 80 percent.
00:12:17.900Reuters is reporting that across the entire front in Ukraine that the Russian military is on the advance.
00:12:25.380Zelensky last night gave a talk to his people that was totally different.
00:12:28.540He said, we have to prepare for defense.
00:12:30.460We have to shift all our offensive capability to defense your assessment of Ukraine.
00:12:39.360The reality, Steve, is, again, as I said on the show, you know, straight the day of, I believe, the beginning of the war in Ukraine, the invasion, this was a huge mistake by Putin.
00:12:52.020Having said that, the way the world and Joe Biden have treated this disaster, an absolute dumpster fire surrounded by nuclear reactors has been a disgrace.
00:13:05.180It's going to work out in more and more and more and more bloodshed.
00:13:08.000It has been an absolute lesson in how not to handle a crisis, how not to handle a war for everybody from Putin to Biden to the European Union and to the Ukraine.
00:13:19.500It's only going to continue to fester and only, again, with the leadership of President Trump, be able to solve it.
00:13:27.820By the way, real quick, we've got about a minute.
00:13:29.820President Trump's speech tomorrow in Iowa, my understanding, he's going to go on offense.
00:13:34.180He's tired of these attacks on him about democracy.
00:13:38.140He's going to lay out the case about what Joe Biden is doing to undermine democracy.
00:13:51.720President Trump's attorney, powerhouse attorney Steve Sadow, saying that exactly what Fannie Willis, the Fulton County D.A., corrupt D.A. is doing is election interference.
00:14:00.060And the judge turned around and said, hey, is it?
00:14:02.160So now we finally have fair, smart judges in Georgia, smart judge, and we have, of course, fair judge in Florida who are standing up to this weaponization, this unconstitutional attack against President Trump that's going on.
00:14:18.540The gag orders, which are a complete deprivation of First Amendment rights.
00:14:22.920All of these hoaxes, they are an attacker on our democracy, an attempt to make America into a banana republic.
00:14:30.360But President Trump will not back down.
00:14:32.140He'll continue to fight, including tomorrow when he lays out another powerhouse speech in Iowa.
00:16:22.540How we can harness AI to advance our mission, to your first question, Ina, and then also defending against the adverse use of AI, whether that's in the context of disinformation, whether that's in the context of reducing barriers to the development of biological weapons, for example.
00:16:43.500That is something that we're very keenly focused on and that the president's executive order speaks of specifically.
00:16:49.500I remember a time when at least the way I perceived the world was that you had an agreed upon set of facts and very different values in America.
00:16:57.300You know, we've always been a divided country with a wide range of opinions, but I feel like for several years, many years now, it feels like we're also divided on what the facts are.
00:17:07.820The term fake news is used very frequently.
00:17:11.360I actually take issue with that term because if it's fake, it's not news.
00:17:14.740I know Eric Schmidt spoke earlier today and he speaks in his article with Dr. Kissinger of, you know, the age of enlightenment and its grounding in science and what that age of reason meant.
00:17:34.020I don't think we necessarily lose our anchor of empiricism.
00:17:39.460Aren't a huge portion of the threats facing us people that are no longer guided by facts within our own borders?
00:17:47.120I mean, it seems to me that domestic terrorism fueled by people who have a different understanding of facts, to put it mildly, is one of the major threats facing the country.
00:17:57.420Well, one element of it is false narratives.
00:18:00.160I was going to say, don't they think an election was stolen?
00:18:02.580False narratives, but the most of the predominant source of that violence is actually ideologies of hate.
00:18:14.180When I speak of digital literacy, I speak of some very fundamental education programs.
00:18:22.580I have a magic wand and I occasionally –
00:18:25.580This Axios AI conference, I can't tell you how important this is in going forward.
00:18:35.160I've got a lot of stuff geopolitically to ask you, Rick, but Ambassador, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:18:40.800Did you not sue Mayorkas and this crowd over DHS a week or so ago?
00:18:45.060Yeah, over intelligence issues, they're stacking intelligence boards, which I'm sitting there listening to these two and thinking, if there's one group that is literally trying to take away any discussion of information and pretend like only their side controls the facts, it's this group.
00:19:11.100But you could almost see them salivating, Steve, because when the left and these big government types see the power of AI, you know what they're doing?
00:19:27.620They want to make an entire new bureaucracy.
00:19:31.240They want to infiltrate the current bureaucracies with it.
00:19:34.720This is a powerful tool and they want it in their hands.
00:19:39.460They want to control it, which is why there's now an executive order, which is the longest executive order in the history of man, because they want every detail surrounding it to be theirs.
00:19:51.780And look, I think conservatives have to think very clearly about this because we can't just simply say we want small government.
00:20:00.120Therefore, we're going to ignore it and throw this to the free market.
00:20:03.440And then the big government people are saying, well, we're the only ones that are going to deal with AI.
00:20:09.420No, we have to deal with AI in a way that that is consistent with our values, which first and foremost is keep government out.
00:20:20.660We can't just simply say we're going to ignore this because it's not a government's role.
00:20:26.680We have to be aggressive about keeping government out.
00:20:37.080Go ahead and play the Eric Schmidt part.
00:20:39.020That works with nurse practitioners, medical professionals all around the world.
00:20:43.200Why don't you just take every student in the world and give them an AI tutor,
00:20:48.400which is not a substitute for a teacher, but works with the teachers in their language to bring them up and learn in whatever way they learn best to their ultimate potential.
00:20:58.180I defy you to argue that an AI doctor for the world and an AI tutor is net negative.
00:21:12.800But I think from our perspective, in the current phase, you're going to see AI doctor, AI tutor, enormous progress in science, enormous progress in language with all the associated issues.
00:21:24.060If you look at the U.K. event, which I was part of, the U.K. government took the bait, took the ideas, decided to leave.
00:21:48.400And that produced this EO, which is the longest EO, I think, in histories of executive orders, which says that each of the aspects of our government are to get organized around this.
00:21:58.040If you look at what we're doing collectively, it's not enough.
00:22:02.580We're not claiming this is the end solution, but it's the beginning.
00:22:10.140By the way, Ambassador, you know, you know, the U.K. guys are talking about MI5 and MI6, working with the national security state, the deep state, you know, the group at the NSC they're talking about.
00:22:24.860But the chilling part is, Schmidt goes, each aspect of our government will now be organized around artificial intelligence.
00:23:00.780Whenever you have a new technology that is absolutely immediately taken over by the people who want to operationalize it and fund it from within the government, you should immediately say, wait a minute.
00:23:17.000We don't want government to be the leader on these things.
00:23:23.440I mean, I can tell you I've spent 12 years at the State Department giving the State Department the ability to do A.I., they wouldn't know what to do.
00:23:31.620They literally this is not their expertise.
00:23:34.480We have to be able to say on programs like this, if we need a regulatory path on this, OK, let's go slow.
00:23:42.220But let's have experts that actually understand it be able to think through these issues.
00:23:48.400Don't throw it to the Commerce Department or the State Department or the Defense Department, which is totally ill-equipped to do this.
00:23:58.640And so that's why we have this philosophy within the conservative movement that government should be minimized.
00:24:05.520It should only be utilized when there is a failure within the free market.
00:24:09.840Let's let the ideas come forward before we triangulate it and kill it by operationalizing it in every single bureaucracy of the federal government.
00:24:22.660And I'd love to debate Mr. Schmidt there, who constantly is trying to grab power and control the technology advancements that Google has, that anyone else has, over the people.
00:24:39.800These individuals think the people are stupid and just like we've been watching in the movies where there's the capital and then there's the people on the outside.
00:24:52.840The capital is the system that completely wants to control the rest of the individuals way out in the hinterland.
00:25:01.240And how dare you ever try to challenge the capital, because the capital is all-knowing.
00:25:15.820You were part of the team with the president that brought peace in the Middle East with the Abraham Accords.
00:25:20.900You also negotiated and brought peace to the Balkans, which is not an easy task, as history shows.
00:25:26.240Would you ever, Grinnell, would you ever, would you and President Trump, when you were working with him, would you have ever allowed Qatar to basically negotiate the deals with the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, sir?
00:25:43.400We wouldn't allow any other country to try to come up and be America first, right?
00:25:49.560The only people that are going to be America first are Americans, because every other country is going to put themselves first, as they should, Steve.
00:25:57.440I worked at the UN for eight years, and there's 193 countries there.
00:26:04.640192 of them always put themselves first, and the one country that gets in trouble when they put themselves first is the United States.
00:26:12.900And so what we have to be able to do is equip our foreign service officers, our embassies around the world, with the tools that say, you work for the United States.
00:26:24.540The United States worker pays your salary.
00:26:29.940Our embassies should be hubs for Americanism, and we should turn these in operationally into helping American businesses grow jobs.
00:26:39.520This is why the State Department should exist, is to help make America stronger, better, safer.
00:26:45.820And when that happens, I can argue that when we put ourselves first, because we are not a country that seeks to conquer and take away others' rights, I think that when America puts itself first, the world is safer.
00:27:03.720And I can tell you that there's a whole bunch of countries that think that that's true.
00:27:07.220We bring capitalism, democracy, human rights, the rule of law.
00:31:56.540Matter of fact, when I called DOJ officials when I was the acting DNI and I told them that Kosovo and Serbia,
00:32:04.380the leaders at the time, had agreed in this big, huge normalization, economic normalization and peace agreement.
00:32:11.560They had agreed to get rid of the Hague court that was overseeing Kosovo and the Serbian war and all the war crimes that came after that.
00:32:23.560I spent a number of years at the UN working on this issue, so I knew it very well.
00:32:28.720And the reality is, is that Jack Smith saw us making progress.
00:32:32.900He saw President Trump bringing the leader of Kosovo, Hashem Tavci, and the leader of Serbia,
00:32:37.520Alexander Vucic, to the White House to solve these problems.
00:32:40.980When I tipped off the DOJ and I told them that we were going to get rid of or seek the UN Security Council
00:32:48.600to get rid of the international court at The Hague that Jack Smith was in charge of,
00:32:54.780ending Jack Smith's job, DOJ official Bruce Schwartz, was his name, panicked.
00:33:01.660And he said, oh, no, Rick, we can't do this. I need to talk to Jack about it.
00:33:06.680And he came back and said, you know, no, Jack, he doesn't want the court to end.
00:33:12.320It was literally within just a few weeks after I made that call, Steve,
00:33:18.700that Jack Smith came up with phony indictments for Hashem Tavci, the president of Kosovo at the time.
00:33:26.860That president is still sitting in a Hague prison two and a half years later.
00:33:33.100This is European justice. Two and a half years without having a trial, you sit in a court.
00:33:39.760It's really honestly an outrage. And Europeans and Vulcan leaders know that this is an outrage.
00:33:47.640By the way, it sounds like they're doing it, Jack Lang. It's absolutely outrageous.
00:33:51.960Ambassador Grinnell, Grinnell, what's your social media?
00:33:55.960And we want you back on here more often as we got to have your breakdown of this fiasco of the Biden regime's national security foreign policy.
00:34:03.560Also, I just want to make sure people know, D&I, tell people what that is.
00:34:07.380I mean, this is you're the guy you're every intelligence agency.
00:34:11.520I think there's 16 of them all reported to you, correct?
00:34:13.700You're above the CIA as President Trump's deputy for all that, correct?
00:34:17.940Yeah, the office of the director of national intelligence heads the president's briefing, the intelligence briefing, and coordinates the intelligence agencies.
00:34:29.320After 9-11, we came up with the idea that our intelligence agencies were vast and not talking to each other.