Episode 3232： Standing Up For FISA Reform
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If Donald Trump wins re-election in 2024, the country will have to reckon once again with the voters who got us here to reconcile what it means to share a country with so many citizens who keep watching Trump spiral deeper into his moral void and still conclude, yes, that's our guy.
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This is who we are. And in it, you write in part, quote, in the last spring of the Obama
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administration, Michelle Obama was delivering her final commencement address as first lady
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at City College of New York. Obama couldn't help but lobbed some barely cloaked denunciations of
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Trump's wrecking ball presidential campaign, the one that would soon be ratified with a Republican
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nomination. That is not who we are. The first lady assured the graduates that is not what this
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country stands for. No, the promise did not age well. Not that November and not since the axiom
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prompts the question. Who is we anyway? Because it sure seems a lot of this. We keeps voting for Trump.
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You can dismiss Trump voters all you want, but give them this. They're every bit as American
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as any idealized vision of the place. If Trump wins in 2024, his detractors will have to reckon once
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again with the voters who got us here to reconcile what it means to share a country with so many
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citizens who keep watching Trump spiral deeper into his moral void and still conclude, yes,
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that's our guy. And Mark, I can't agree with you more. I think that especially applies to the
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evangelical community and people who call themselves Christians who spend a lot of time judging other
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people but can't seem to reconcile these two realities. I would also add that I do think a lot of people
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are somewhat victims of sort of a cult, really. There's no doubt. I mean, the powers of persuasion
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in the media and given the sound machines that the right and the Trump world has at their disposal,
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you know, online, you know, whether it's Fox, whether it's any number of outlets. I mean,
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they have a very powerful messaging system. And it starts with the guy who basically has been in our
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faces for eight years or seven years. And, you know, and it could be more. So, I mean, I think
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what I wanted to look at here and, you know, the issue of the Atlantic looks very, you know,
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very sort of issue by issue granularly at what this administration, if it happens again, could look
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like. What I wanted to do is step back and sort of evaluate what it means to actually live in a
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country where this keeps happening, where this is a critical electoral mass. It might not be a popular
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mass, but it's an electoral college majority where we're just a lot of people think this is fine.
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And obviously, I don't think one of the we have a lot of information about Donald Trump. I mean,
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his character is not a mystery at this point. The fact is, a lot of people like it. And that's
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my
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purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Friday, 8 December in the year of our Lord, 2023. Welcome to the sound machine
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at the center of the moral void that we call MAGA. Welcome. We've got a lot of work to go
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through the day. We're going to talk about the Axios story on the war cabinet and the response of the
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media and their attacks on MAGA and the Trump movement. But I want to say victory after victory
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cover of Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal today. Headline, Wall Street falls out of love
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with pouring money into China. So major victory for the Lao Bajing, for new federal state of China.
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We finally got the attention of the Larry Finks of the world and got the attention of the Ray Dalio's
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of the world. It's no longer acceptable what the United States government won't do. The muscle of
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this populist movement will do to put these folks on notice. I start off today, very disturbing,
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but we've got to face it. Exactly what is the work that we're doing in this Congress? We have so many
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solid people. Speaker Johnson with a biblical worldview. We've got so many hammers. We can do
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so much. And behind the scenes, a lot has been done, but there seems to be some sort of disconnect.
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I want to start today with the National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA. Also,
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we're going to talk about FISA. Cash Patel joins us again, the future head of the Central Intelligence
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Agency. But we're going to start with Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. Congressman Roy, before we get
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to FISA, because I do want to have Cash jump in here. He's got some breaking news, some documents
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he's gone through. But I want to just pull the camera back in about this NDAA. Tell the audience,
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why is this important? And normally people that are for strong self-defenses, like the Chip Roy's,
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the Steve Bannon's of the world, are saying, hey, we can't, this thing as it's structured now
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is a non-starter, sir. Yeah, thanks, Steve. Good to be on. I mean, first of all, let me just go back
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real quick to that lead-in you had, where you had these leftists who were talking about how, you know,
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where's our conscience as Christians, or, you know, saying that somehow we're hypocritical.
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And let me just ask a question, and it's germane to this question about the National Defense
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Authorization Act and FISA. Like, where's the conscience of leftists who are totally fine
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with these girls who got raped and their pelvics crushed in Israel? Or these little girls and kids
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getting sold into the sex trafficking trade in an open border so that we can be, you know,
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sending money to China and empowering corporations? You know, where are they when we're talking about
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abortion and the death to the unborn? Where are they when we're talking about these forced
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transition surgeries? Chloe Cole, who bravely stood up and said, wait a minute, I didn't want
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to be transitioned, and now I can't be a woman. Where are their Christian consciences, Steve? And
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that's relevant here, because a lot of Republicans go out and campaign, and they talk about, oh, you
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know, we're going to do all these things. We're going to stand up and stop the abortion funding
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and transgender surgeries. Trust us. And when push comes to shove, you have what's happening right
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now. The National Defense Authorization Act, which authorizes our entire defense complex,
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in it are a large number of great things we got as conservatives in July, through a lot of force,
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by the way. It took a lot of work. It took months of work. We ended the abortion tourism. We ended
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the transgender surgeries. We defunded diversity officers. We ended DEI. We made it impossible for
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the president's climate change executive orders to get implemented. We made it to where people who
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were denied their jobs because of the vaccine mandates and the tyranny applied to our men and
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women in uniform, that they could come back, get restored to rank, get their retirement back,
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et cetera. Almost all of that, with a few small exceptions, have been completely left out of
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this NDAA that, unfortunately, the speaker has agreed with Senate Democrats and Republicans to move
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through. And he's filed it and he's ready to move it next week. If we don't say, no, you can't do that.
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Don't move this terrible bill. And it's made worse with the exclamation point of putting a FISA
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extension on it. That is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. And they'll put that extension on
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it through April. But it's worse than that, Steve. By doing that, it means all of the procedures we want
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to fix will stay in place until the spring of 25. That cannot happen. We Republicans have got to stand
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up. Your entire army out there, melt the phones down. We've got to stop this by next week.
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By the way, Congressman, I appreciate you. I know you're losing your voice. I really appreciate you
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stepping up here. Just can you explain to our audience, because as you know, this audience was
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critical to the historic removal of a speaker and Mike Johnson and so many people are supportive and
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really are attracted to his biblical worldview. Explain to us, how did we go from the huge fight
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you had in the spring and culminate in the summer with all the woken weaponized that got out? We were
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all high fiving each other. How do we go from the July high fives to this where we're basically putting
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the Democrats' NDAA up for a vote? Well, this is where it gets very complex, right? Mike Johnson
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is a good man. He does have a strong biblical worldview. He is a conservative. Unfortunately,
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when you get to the finish line in Washington, that's December, right? We're sitting here,
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and a lot of people want to leave town next week, which I think is outrageous. I will be happy to eat
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my turkey dinner, all those steaks better, on Thanksgiving Day on the floor of the House of
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Representatives. I'll eat popcorn. I don't give a day. I want to get our job done. I don't think we
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should leave town until we get our job done. So I would stay there. And if the Senate won't stay
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there, that's on them. But to answer your question, and I'm going to say this as respectfully as I can,
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Mike just needs to stand up and hold the line. He wants to do the right thing. But too many voices
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in his ear, including staff, are telling him, oh, my God, FISA is going to expire. The end of the world
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is going to occur on January 3rd. There'll be a terrorist attack. Look, Steve, you and I both know
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that the vast majority, if not every terrorist attack that we've been able to intervene and stop
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has been done through a combination of getting information and intel targeting actual bad foreign
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actors and human intelligence. And we go in and do our job. But if all of this FISA stuff is so great,
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why did we fail, by the way, in Israel? Why did we fail collectively on a number of different fronts?
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I do not want to lose our Fourth Amendment protections. I do not want to lose the importance
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of protecting American civil liberties, because we are so focused and actually operating in fear.
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And if I had to answer your question, it would be that there is a tendency in Washington that I hope
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Speaker Johnson will avoid. We're trying to push him to avoid it, of operating in fear instead of
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operating in confidence. Chip, Congressman, if you could just hang on one second. I'll bring in
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Cash. Cash, we've got a couple of minutes before we go to break, but I want to break news. This is
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very important for this. I want to inform this conversation of FISA with some absolutely shocking
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news that Cash Patel has gone through the documents. Cash, can you tell the audience and the
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Congressman what you found? Yeah, look, it's a public document that the FISA, the Foreign Intelligence
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Surveillance Court, reviewed after we, during Russiagate, exposed the FBI's corruption with
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FISA overall and their lies. 702 has been thrown around a lot. That's just a fancy verbiage for a
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tool where we collect foreign intelligence. It is never to be utilized against Americans, especially
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domestically. And what we found and what we exposed and what the court summary document shows is that,
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yes, 702 was used illegally to surveil a dozen people involved with January 6th. Hang on, it gets
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worse. 702 was used illegally to query 19,000 people who donated to a certain congressional candidate
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for office of the U.S. House of Representatives, and it gets worse. 702 was used unlawfully 24,000 times
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against Americans domestically for groups involved with January 6th. The purpose of 702, I know it,
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I utilize it, is to manhunt terrorists and threats overseas. Chris Ray's FBI has brought that into the
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United States repeatedly over years. And this court document, not mine, not some MAGA document, the
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court, the FISA court issued a report that shows the corruption we exposed. But unfortunately, they didn't
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introduce any levels of appropriate responses. They just gave Chris Ray a hall pass 274,000 times in
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one year. And every time the FBI was asked, how did you let this type of surveillance conducted occur
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against Americans? They said the FBI agents in charge said they don't remember. That's what we're left
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with. Congressman Chip Roy, any observations off of that data? Yeah, I mean, look, thank you,
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Cash, for making sure the audience knows those facts. This is the kind of stuff we're dealing
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with. It is why in the House Judiciary Committee, we worked hard with Congressman Jim Jordan, with a
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lot of the guys at Andy Biggs, you know, who's on your show regularly. We worked hard to put forward
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a bill that, I mean, it may not be perfect, no legislation is, but it moves the needle enormously
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to restrict the abuse of powers under 702 that have been being used against the American people,
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as Cash just laid out. That is all completely unacceptable. You can't use this 702 power to
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target bad actors abroad to backdoor and spy on Americans. It is an absolute disaster for our civil
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liberties. So we're going to keep pushing the judiciary bill. The intel community, they want
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something that is much less restrictive, as you would expect, right? And Cash knows this.
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They want all the powers they can get. And look, as a former federal prosecutor, sure. If the Fourth
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Amendment didn't exist, my job would have been a hell of a lot easier to go in and get information
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from people and put bad people in jail. The problem with that is that you're going to end up putting good
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people in jail. Because no matter how good your intentions, if you have the power to go exercise it
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against people, it will be used. It will be used nefariously. This is the history of man. It is
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why our republic was founded the way it was founded. One last point on all this. You know, back in
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September, I believed that we should hold the line and keep using our current structure to pressure
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Kevin. So I took that position. I had full respect for my friends who said, nope, let's go ahead and
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vacate. The reason, though, that I want to highlight now, it is less always about the individual per se
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sitting in the chair and more about us holding whoever is in the chair responsible. As good of a man as
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Mike is, the powers of the swamp push these guys to make bad decisions. So let's all continue to rally and
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focus on what we need to do. Pass a good FISA reform, block the bad National Defense Authorization Act,
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force these guys to cut spending year over year, and demand that we secure the border of the United States.
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Do not utter the word Ukraine on the floor of the House. Don't mention the word. Don't even breathe
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the word until we've secured the border of the United States. Congressman, can you hold on? Can you
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So, Congressman Chip Roy, Texas, we're going to, the Warren Posse is going to man the ramparts here
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in a few minutes when you and Cash are finished. I know you've got to bounce. You've also been named
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to a major chair of a subcommittee regarding the Constitution. Just walk us through, because I know
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everything, and we agree with you. We're outraged, and this audience is outraged, that folks are taking
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off on the 15th. They think they ought to, you guys ought to have a commemorative service on Christmas
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Eve and then Christmas morning to the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and then get on with
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it. You know, just work through the holidays. That being said, the NDAA and Pfizer are the ones in front
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of us now. Maybe a couple other things, but what's your guidance? When this audience calls,
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what should be the message, and what's the message that's going to resonate most in a respectful and
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supportive way, but a no-nonsense way? Yeah, make sure you call your member of Congress and anybody
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else here as your senator. Let the Speaker's office know. Get out there on social media and let them
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know that, number one, the National Defense Authorization Act, what we call the NDAA, that needs to be
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stopped. It needs to be sent back for review because it's filled with all sorts of nonsense. It does not
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address all of the things we wanted to address in terms of abortion, transgender surgery, climate change,
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DEI, all of the woke agenda killing our military. So we need to stop it. Secondly, it must be stopped
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in particular because we need to stop the reauthorization of FISA, the reauthorization of FISA as it exists,
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which allows the government to spy on Americans using a backdoor process under 702 when they say they're
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targeting foreigners and they're really going after Americans. We have legislation to fix it,
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which brings me to point three. We want to move the good legislation that Jim Jordan, Andy Piggs,
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Chip Roy, Thomas Massey, we all worked on it in the House Judiciary Committee. We want to send that to
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the Senate. That's what we need to tell our members. Kill the NDAA. Stop it. Tell the Speaker not to put it
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on the floor. If it is put on the floor, every Republican should oppose it.
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I will get that last second. You've been named this major committee that you're going to chair.
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Can you give us a heads up of what we should look forward to?
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Sure. Yeah. Congressman Jordan has, and I humbly accepted, being the chairman of the subcommittee
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on the Constitution in the House Judiciary Committee. I look forward. We just had a hearing
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where we had the head of the civil rights division at DOJ, which cash well knows how much damage that
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division does to democracy and freedom in our country. So we are going to be doing a lot of
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hearings this next year. I hope to focus on issues that I know a lot of your listeners care about
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in terms of civil liberties. I want to get to the bottom still of how people were treated during
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January 6th with respect to their confinement, the lack of equal protection under the laws in terms
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of targeting them with respect to penalties versus, for example, the people that were
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rioting in the summer of 20. There are a lot of issues that I want to address. Open to ideas and
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love to talk to you guys about it. Congressman, social media, website, how do people follow you?
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Yeah, sure. ChipRoy.com is my political. My Twitter account is ChipRoyTX, C-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X.
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And on the official, it's Roy.House.gov. You all have a very Merry Christmas. I'm reminded every
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year the blessings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Thank you for your testimony in that
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regard. We shouldn't back down in terms of our views of Western civilization. I don't know why
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we're so timid. We should be defending this country, defending its sovereignty. When those boys sat in the
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foxholes on Christmas Day in 1944 in the freezing cold, we should honor them. Yesterday, I was on an
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honor flight. There were 10 World War II veterans between the age of 95 and 102. One of them had
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fudged his birth certificate when he was 15 to sign up to defend this country. Those tombstones on the
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other side of the Potomac are worth a hell of a lot more than all the monuments on the other side.
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The other side wouldn't exist without those tombstones. So everybody should stand up and
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fight right now to protect the civil liberties they all fought for. So thanks, Steve, very much.
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Congressman, thank you very much. Congressman Chip Roy there, alluding to the Battle of the Bulge.
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As you know, we'll be doing that on Christmas Day. Our special The Combat History of Christmas will
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go through American patriotism and those that defended this nation even on our most solemn
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occasion, Christmas Day. I want to go back to Cash for a second. Cash, I want to take a moment and
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explain what you found because of the power of it. And I'm kind of shocked that nobody else has
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looked at this document. But one thing just to set the table. Cash, here's what I'm missing. So you
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got to help me out here. There's been over 100. Axios came out with really talked about President
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Trump's war cabinet, right, essentially. And who knows if that's going to play it or not. But it's
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directionally where President Trump's head is at and what he's looking for and how he wants to execute
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the types of people and about execution, about execution on his policies. There's been 100 major
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articles from Vanity Fair to the Hill all on that. And they're going absolutely crazy. So riddle me
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this, brother. Why is it the Cash Patels? And you're being eviscerated everywhere. We're going to have a
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clip later about Joy and Reid going after you. Why is it the Cash Patels and the Steve Bannons and the
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Chipperoys and others that they call part of this fascist movement? Why is it us that are fighting
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to make sure that we can take out domestic surveillance of American citizens out of FISA?
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And it's all those people on Morning Joe and Chris Hayes and CNN, Aaron Burnett. They're all on
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there at Wolf Blitzer. They're on there every night. And they're the ones that want to make sure that we
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can surveil United States citizens. Aren't they the fascists, sir?
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Steve, you're absolutely right. They are the ones that those media organizations that use the
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fruits of an unlawful FISA process to rig a presidential election. Yes, I'm talking to
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Russiagate. Ask every one of those individuals to answer why they perpetuated a lie and an unlawful
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surveillance project to go against President Trump. That's what they did. The reason they don't want
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to actually stand for civil liberties in the Constitution in this country is because they
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know they utilized a broken system in the past and they need a broken system in the future to go
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against President Trump. So what do they do? They resorted to name calling and saying, we are the
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ones who are actually standing up for FISA reform, the Constitution and the law. And we are the ones asking
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for people to be prosecuted who break the law using the Constitution. They're slinging hyperbole
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and putting out disinformation campaigns because that's all they got left.
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Cash, I want people to understand the scale of this. This is industrial level. This is part of a
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process. People can make mistakes. That's just going to happen. It's something as big as the federal
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government or our military or anything in your own life. People make mistakes. You screw up.
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This is not mistakes. This is this is not a this is not a bug. It's a feature. Walk through. I just
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want people to embrace what the scale of this has been, sir. Yeah. And look, we posted the document
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online for everybody to see it and focus on pages 27 to 29. It's not a mistake when you have the FISA
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court itself come forward and say the FBI under Chris Wray unlawfully searched domestically against
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Americans over 300,000 times, 24,000 times involving January 6th, 19,000 times involving
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donors for a congressional candidate. This is what we're up against. And every time when the
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justification is asked for of the FBI, the agents and analysts that made these searches,
00:24:19.760
these unlawful searches under Chris Wray's authority said they could not remember. And you could see in the
00:24:25.460
document right there. They basically wrote them a hall pass and said, OK, we've made a notation of
00:24:30.020
it. My question to Congress, and this ties in directly to what a lot of the great stuff Congressman
00:24:34.120
Roy was saying, is why are we attaching a FISA reform bill, whether it's the judiciary or the intel,
00:24:40.120
to the NDAA? Why are we rubber stamping Chris Wray's over authorization of use?
00:24:45.200
I want to tell, hang on, hang on. I want to, I want to get to that because this is like last time
00:24:50.020
in the omnibus, they put the changes to the electoral count at 1887, which I'll talk more
00:24:55.280
about later. Tell people why they do it. Tell, tell why FISA, which had nothing to do with the NDA,
00:25:02.200
it would, why is this slipped in, sir? Because they know it's the only way they can goose it
00:25:07.700
through. They can split the screws and say, oh, here we go. It's another thousand page document
00:25:12.660
and FISA clean reauthorization is going to happen. Chris Wray was just in Congress last week,
00:25:17.520
Steve. How is it that no member of Congress asked him about this under oath? How is it that no member
00:25:22.740
of Congress held up this document that I can readily find and shoved it in his face and said,
00:25:27.400
you violated the law 300,000 times? And Chris Wray had the audacity to come in there and ask for an
00:25:32.040
extension of a FISA without any changes forever? Because he said, the guy who's guilty of the crimes
00:25:38.700
himself said, I fixed it. The guy who allowed the Russiagate coverup has said, I fixed it.
00:25:43.900
The guy who allowed 274,000 illegal searches against Americans domestically said he fixed it.
00:25:50.120
And Congress is buying it by allowing a clean reoff until April on this NDAA. We can get into which
00:25:55.920
bill's better on FISA reform, but why does Chris Wray still have a government funded G5 jet? Why does Chris
00:26:01.940
Wray have these FBI agents and analysts? Why are they still working with the FISA program after they've been
00:26:08.560
caught breaking the law, unlawfully surveilling domestically against American citizens?
00:26:13.760
And they have politicized the FISA process over these years. And now Congress and the swamp want
00:26:19.220
to take over and they want a clean reoff till April in the NDAA because that's the best way to jam it
00:26:24.420
through. That's how the swamp wins. Speaker Mike Johnson, you got to do better than this and shut it down.
00:26:31.520
Cash, can you hang with us for a few minutes? I'm going to get to the other side. We got
00:26:34.680
Garrett Ziegler is going to join us about other breaking massive news of nine indictments. I think
00:26:42.580
four felonies on tax evasion for Hunter Biden, which has, which cuts to the heart of the election
00:26:49.420
interference because guess what folks, all of this was known long time before 2020. Garrett Ziegler is
00:26:55.960
going to join us for that. Mike Davis is going to come in, going to join Cash. What we're going to do is
00:26:59.040
play, uh, some meltdown on the war cabinet because both Cash Patel and Mike Davis are named in it and
00:27:05.840
they're absolutely losing it. So I want to make sure Cash, just hang on for a second that people
00:27:09.500
should know too. The FISA is what they use as the beginning of the nullification project, the
00:27:14.160
nullification of Trump's victory. Remember Trump's had two elections stolen, 16 because they fought him
00:27:19.140
every step of the way in the nullification process on the project. And then in 2020, when they just
00:27:24.740
outright stole it, they couldn't steal 2016, but they could steal 2020. But the FISA is the tool.
00:27:30.400
That's the tool they use to surveil Trump, his followers, American citizens. It's absolutely
00:27:37.860
outrageous. And of course, thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of others. It's an outrageous tool.
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but do you believe that you can deliver the goods on this in a pretty short order the first
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couple of months so we can get rolling on prosecutions? Yes. One thing we learned in the
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Trump administration the first go-around is we got to put in all America patriots top to bottom,
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and we got them for law enforcement. We got them for intel collection. We got them for
00:29:50.820
offensive operations. We got them for DOD, CIA, everywhere.
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That's Kash Patel, who might run Donald Trump's CIA. And how about Stephen Miller at the DOJ,
00:30:02.260
or Chief of Staff Steve Bannon? Those are just some of the people Trump would likely dredge up
00:30:07.420
from the MAGA swamp if he somehow gets a second presidency. And we begin tonight with a clear and
00:30:13.000
present danger that cannot be repeated enough. If Donald Trump gets a second presidency,
00:30:17.960
the American democratic experience will cease to exist as we know it. We already know what he
00:30:23.460
plans to do. First, he wants to round up in prison and deport 11 million migrants. Then he wants to gut
00:30:30.020
the EPA, roll back environmental regulations, and of course, a promise to drill, drill, drill to the
00:30:36.020
earth literally dies. Then we will see the deployment of federal troops in major democratic cities to
00:30:42.300
shut down protests and round up unhoused people where they, alongside the rounded up migrants,
00:30:48.840
will be forced into tent cities. While federal forces are busy doing that, Trump's Department
00:30:53.960
of Justice will be indicting Joe Biden, his family, democratic officials, and members of the media.
00:31:00.060
The people who beat police officers and smeared feces on the walls of the Capitol during the January
00:31:04.060
6th insurrection, meanwhile, will receive full pardons. Internationally, Trump will pull the U.S.
00:31:10.300
out of NATO, abandon Ukraine, and continue to endorse the annexation of Palestinian territories.
00:31:16.800
Now, you might think this is hyperbole, or that the institutional guardrails will hold,
00:31:21.980
or maybe, just maybe, some fellow Republicans, assuming any of them still have spines,
00:31:26.320
will somehow restrain him. Do not hold your breath. Just look at what happened last night
00:31:31.920
during the fourth Republican presidential debate. Of the four candidates, only former Governor
00:31:36.420
Chris Christie dared say his name or criticize his dictatorial aspirations. And he's not wrong.
00:31:42.680
His second administration will be a curated cabal of despotic enablers. We already know that John
00:31:48.800
McEntee, his body man, will be central in calling, in culling so-called infidels. And Russell Vought,
00:31:55.980
who ran the Office of Management and Budget for Trump, and is currently running a policy organization,
00:32:00.720
which is laying the groundwork for a second Trump administration, recently explained why,
00:32:06.340
telling the New York Times, what we're trying to do is identify the pockets of independence
00:32:11.160
and seize them. This morning, Axios laid out what a second administration will look like.
00:32:17.360
And it should terrify every single one of you. According to Axios, among those in contention for
00:32:22.680
vice president are Senator J.D. Vance, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Melania Trump's
00:32:28.940
favorite, Tucker Carlson. Then there are the cabinet officials. Let's start with Stephen Miller,
00:32:34.260
a man who promoted white nationalist books and articles, who just might be your next attorney
00:32:39.000
general or in charge of immigration. You need to mobilize the U.S. military, state, federal,
00:32:47.080
and local law enforcement to then carry out large-scale deportations across the whole country.
00:32:53.000
And then you would need to build very large staging facilities to carry out the removal. So it would
00:32:58.660
be an undertaking. It would be greater than any national infrastructure project that we've done
00:33:04.800
to date, but that's what we have to do. Then there's Kash Patel, a former Trump administration
00:33:09.140
official who was once considered for CIA until people threatened to quit. Well, he could get a second
00:33:15.180
crack at the job. It's probably because he agrees with Trump that former Joint Chiefs Chairman,
00:33:20.260
General Mark Milley, should be punished for preventing Trump from launching a military attack
00:33:24.480
after his 2020 loss. Chairman Milley is trying to use the media to show that the mission serves his
00:33:32.340
needs, and that is the main reason he needs to go and be court-martialed. And there is Richard
00:33:38.680
Greeneau, who as ambassador to Germany told Breitbart that he absolutely wanted to empower other
00:33:44.560
conservatives throughout Europe. He could be our next Secretary of State. And he might be the guy
00:33:50.320
who, and who might be the one who manages the White House, you ask? It could be Steve Bannon as
00:33:55.500
Trump's next Chief of Staff. And this kind of stuff is why. It's either us or them. One side's going to
00:34:02.120
win and one side's going to lose. No compromise. Axios is also telling us that Trump is considering
00:34:07.220
J.P. Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, a Democrat, to head the Treasury Department because he loves
00:34:13.380
billionaires. And his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, for Secretary of State. It is a nightmare-inducing
00:34:18.700
poo-poo platter of enablers, sycophants, outright fascists, and nihilists.
00:34:24.660
Okay, I'm going to say this right now, and I'm absolutely dead serious about this. I want Joy Ann Reed
00:34:29.980
as comms director. I think that's probably the most succinct laying out of the program.
00:34:38.260
Joy Ann Reed, you know, she went to Harvard. She's very talented, very smart. Got a lot of,
00:34:42.900
you know, strange ideas about policies and politics, things like that. But a comms director,
00:34:47.780
you're just worried about, you're not setting policy. You're just crafting the narrative.
00:34:52.120
I'm very serious here. Cash, what do you think? That is the most succinct. I think it took six
00:34:56.360
minutes. They have good staff over at MSNBC. And of course, they're haters. They hate MAGA. They
00:35:00.880
hate Trump. They actually hate the American Republic. They want to turn into something
00:35:05.940
different. And you've seen that on the southern border and other places. But that was, my vote
00:35:12.860
goes to comms director Joy Ann Reed. Now, not press secretary, but comms director, because that's
00:35:17.700
where you're in charge of kind of the big picture movement. She's a narrative driver. Cash, your
00:35:22.540
thoughts. I mean, Cash, why are you fighting for civil liberties for people when you're supposed
00:35:27.100
to be a demon, a devil? You know, people at the CIA are going to quit. Hey, let me say this. Anybody
00:35:33.240
at the CIA that would quit on the nomination of Cash Patel to be the director of the Central
00:35:39.740
Intelligence Agency, this is what it's all about. We want you guys to go. Please quit. Quit. And maybe
00:35:45.020
you think about taking residence in another country. This may be the United States, the traditional
00:35:50.060
Republic of the United States, not right for you. But anybody that would quit, hey, baby,
00:35:54.820
just show them the door. Langley, Cash Patel. Well, I think what you have with Joy Ann Reed
00:36:00.620
there is it would be awesome to see her be your employee when you're chief of staff. But what
00:36:05.480
she did was lay out the vote for the American public. She literally said in the first 30 seconds
00:36:11.120
what's more important to them and what's most important to us. She said it's climate change,
00:36:16.980
diversity, equity, and inclusion. And I forgot the last one. That are the top three issues of
00:36:23.280
the day for the Democratic Party. Climate change, diversity, equity, and inclusion, and, you know,
00:36:28.140
other silly rights. What we were fighting for, every one of those individuals that she showed on the
00:36:33.040
Trump, MAGA, whatever side of the house you want to call it, is enforcing the Constitution,
00:36:38.160
going after people who broke the law and prosecuting them, holding government officials accountable.
00:36:42.260
Yes, I talked about Mark Milley because he stepped outside the chain of command and broke the law.
00:36:47.580
And that's why the United States military code of justice should have looked at his actions,
00:36:52.580
but they failed to. Going after individuals, whether they are private citizens or public
00:36:57.220
officials or in the media, if they broke the law is exactly what we want when it comes to
00:37:02.660
accountability. We care about the border. Why do you think she's so heavily talking about the
00:37:07.040
border so much? Because it's their scare tactic. We want illegals removed from this country
00:37:11.840
and brought in the right way. What's wrong with that? That's what the Constitution and the law
00:37:15.840
require. Why do you think crime has spiked in this city? What do you think Iran is doing,
00:37:20.400
is taking advantage of this mass migration? And now we have foreign terrorists within our borders
00:37:25.920
because Joe Biden opened them. That's what they want. And they want to talk about fear tactics
00:37:31.200
and fear mongering. Then they bring out the verbiage like, you know, oh, these guys are demons.
00:37:36.220
These guys are anti-American, but they don't have a basis for it. You know, that's the difference,
00:37:41.780
Steve. Joanne, and by the way, Cash informs me as chief of staff, I'll be, you know, president
00:37:49.060
picks those people, but I can always kind of nudge them. Hey, President Trump, look at Joanne Reid.
00:37:54.480
Joanne, we're looking for a convert. I think you'd be a great commenter. No, because she laid it out.
00:37:57.920
Well, and here's the thing of the mass deportations. The illegal alien invaders are here are just
00:38:03.480
crushing African-American and Hispanic citizens. It's driving wages down. It's making their
00:38:07.980
education system, that part of the education system in the inner cities and the rural communities
00:38:12.060
awful. And in the medical system, we've had people from Yuma all along the border, the Rio Grande Valley
00:38:17.380
tell you that. We're just trying to protect American citizens, uphold the Constitution, get back to
00:38:22.640
what the American Republic is supposed to be. Cash, your thoughts?
00:38:25.260
But their disinformation campaign is we are carrying out, quote-unquote, acts of revenge.
00:38:30.760
They're not acts of revenge. We're the ones carrying out the law. But they get to take our
00:38:35.400
quotes, completely distort them, and feed it to their rabid media acolytes. And that's what they
00:38:42.340
are going to use to run against the Donald Trump platform that is America First. They're the ones with
00:38:48.960
the scare tactics, not us. They're the ones that violated the use of the federal courts.
00:38:55.260
We'll give a, by the way, I'll do it. Joy Ann Reed, as she laid out the Trump program versus the one
00:39:01.440
she laid out her case for the MSNBC crowd, we'll do an up-or-down vote on that. We'll do an up-or-down
00:39:07.100
vote. Do an up-or-down vote. Joy Ann, 65 percent, two-thirds of the American people are going to choose
00:39:13.040
our policies. This is one of the reasons, many reasons, that Biden is collapsing. Cash, I know you
00:39:18.140
got to bounce. Government gangsters, you laid it all out. Tell people where they get your current
00:39:22.980
writings, like your analysis, where they get this analysis of the, to tell you the horrors of FISA
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in the books, all your merch. And by the way, some of these stories, Cash, about the war cabinet,
00:39:34.540
and that's what we're calling it, the war cabinet, they're really going after you, Cash, for being
00:39:39.220
a marketing guy and merchandiser. He's a multitasker. The CIA needs a little marketing. You need a little
00:39:46.080
marketing over there, right? Because it's looked at as a group of incompetent bad guys
00:39:49.860
that are both malfeasance and incompetence. They're getting on you for your merch, Cash.
00:39:55.220
So tell people where they go. Where are all the touch points?
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00:40:23.220
They're in here. You want it about FISA reform? It's in here. You want to know about how the FBI
00:40:26.660
violated the trust of the American people and broke the law and surveilled us illegally?
00:40:30.200
It's in Government Gangsters. Go to governmentgangsters.com. Get your Christmas special
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today. And you can find me at Cash, at K-A-S-H on Truth Social. That's where I'm posting about
00:40:40.120
the FISA abuses of Chris Wray that we just broke on War Room today. Tens of thousands of individuals
00:40:46.440
illegally surveilled within the United States of America. And this Congress wants to rubber stamp
00:40:51.580
it. I'm going to never stop talking about it. I hope Mike Johnson and company are listening.
00:40:55.220
Don't jam a reauthorization of FISA 702. Clean reauthorization. We got the reforms. They're
00:41:00.100
in here. Governmentgangsters.com and at Truth Social at Cash. And Steve, I got some based apparel
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coming your way. It might be I'll see you this weekend.
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Okay. Yes. I think we're going to see you and spend some quality time next week. Cash may even be
00:41:14.060
in studio next week as we've shifted the flag back here to the nation's capital because it's an
00:41:20.060
emergency and the emergency is we got to stop NDAA. We got to stop FISA. And we got to tell these guys
00:41:25.240
don't go home in the 15th. Nobody back home wants to see you. Stay and work. Cash Patel, thank you very
00:41:31.180
much, brother. We're going to take a break in a minute or two. I'm going to bring in Garrett
00:41:38.640
Ziegler. Bombshell news last night. Hunter Biden indicted on, I don't know, nine counts of tax
00:41:47.420
evasion, basically $1.4 million that he spent on prostitutes and drugs and wrote him off his business
00:41:54.680
expense. The depravity of this guy. You would also think that Joe Biden might, particularly since you're
00:42:00.940
going to run for president, might have a financial advisor, you know, overseeing this or at least
00:42:05.240
checking in. The reason they don't, they're a crime family. They're a crime syndicate. They think
00:42:08.520
they're impervious. Also election interference. This is direct election interference. The IRS and DOJ
00:42:15.560
and people knew about this. They knew about this. It's called being a politically exposed person, PEP.
00:42:23.400
Once you're at a certain level of government, you're everything that you do because they don't want to
00:42:27.320
see foreign influence and other nefarious activities. Every transaction you have, everything
00:42:31.640
you do is monitored by the banks and the banks have to send reports to Treasury. So Treasury knew about
00:42:38.060
this. DOJ knew about this. The IRS knew about it. Everybody knew about it. What they do, they suppressed
00:42:44.140
it. You don't think that's election interference. You think that this might be a topic the American
00:42:48.420
people would want to chew on. I don't know. Maybe in the spring of 2020. Also, the ties right back
00:42:56.420
to the laptop from hell. Chris Wray, Chris Wray and Bill Barr got the laptop from hell. It was
00:43:02.320
taken by the FBI in late November, early December of 2019. You think, where's Elizabeth Warren's
00:43:08.640
campaign? Where's Bernie? This is why I keep saying Bernie's a pussy. Bernie Sanders, they roll
00:43:13.880
all over Bernie Sanders. The Clintons roll all over him. The deep state rolls all over him. He doesn't
00:43:17.620
do anything. If you're a Bernie bro, you're a simp. Okay? You're a simp. We're going to get it all to
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...facing a major new legal challenge this morning after he was indicted on nine tax-related
00:45:17.480
charges. The new 56-page indictment was filed late yesterday by special counsel David Weiss in
00:45:23.120
federal court in Los Angeles and includes three felony counts. It alleges the president's son failed to pay
00:45:29.300
taxes, failed to file, evaded an assessment, and filed a fraudulent form, stating, quote,
00:45:34.840
rather than pay his taxes, the defendant spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle.
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Hunter Biden's attorney responded with a statement, saying in part, quote,
00:45:44.060
based on the facts and the law, if Hunter's last name was anything other than Biden,
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the charges in Delaware and now California would not have been brought.
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He added that Hunter Biden paid his taxes in full more than two years ago. If convicted,
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Hunter Biden could face a maximum of 17 years in prison. So there's a lot of detail
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in this filing, Lisa, about what Hunter Biden did spend the money on.
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Extravagant, extra extravagant. Abby Lowell, he's not chasing around. He's not chasing around
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Garrett Ziegler. Oh, he paid his taxes, man. Come on, dude. What are you talking about?
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This election interference, they knew about this years ago. And for the grace of God,
00:46:21.700
people have to understand if that judge a couple of months ago hadn't looked at his
00:46:25.020
document and said, well, hang on for a second. We're giving him total immunity from everything.
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If she had not made that decision in the moment, none of this would have been known. Garrett
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Ziegler, can you give us some details? And by the way, so he's not paying his taxes. He's got a million
00:46:40.000
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around with a central bank digital currency. Birchgold.com slash Bannon. Garrett Ziegler,
00:47:05.400
can you please define, as only you can, the extravagant lifestyle of Hunter Biden that he wrote
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off his business expenses he didn't want to pay taxes on, sir? It would be as if the ancient Roman
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treasury was going through the line items of Caligula's son, if Caligula had a son. And this
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is, this indictment, you know, I actually agree with what Abby Lowell said in his quote, because only
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Abby Lowell, a trained sophist, could put out a quote that both Kevin Morris likes, but also
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tells the truth, which is this. Those charges wouldn't have been brought if Hunter had a last
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nap, a different last name. There would have been different charges brought, which is what we seek
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all along, which is far up money laundering and sex trafficking. So in one key way, Abby Lowell was
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right in his cute little quote. What do you mean by that? Talk to me about these charges, because
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you're saying these charges are just not taxes, that they lead and speak to a different depravity
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of trafficking women for sex from other countries, of money laundering, of taking the money actually
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he could pay for this, his perversion from foreign sources, particularly the CCP.
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This indictment in the Central District of California, different, you know, jurisdiction now
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that wise to special counsel, is talking about what happens after the money was in the pot.
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I was thinking about how to describe this and how to put it into an analogy. The 56-page indictment
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describes what Hunter did once the money was collected in the pot. That is only half of what is necessary.
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We, those who actually care about justice, we want to see charges brought about what got the money
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into the pot in the first place, because Joe will be more implicated in that scenario. He's already
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implicated today. His power of attorney was the registered agent for the shell company that received
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a $3 million wire from the Tricoms, Mel Monzak. There's a great piece in the Daily Mail today, Steve,
00:49:14.180
that we helped with that talks about Mel Monzak. And it goes into this guy who's been Joey's power of
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attorney for nearly 40 years. He's at the center of all of this. So the indictment,
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I will admit, it's a heck of a lot better than a, you know, aborted plea deal. I want to give some
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credit because they did lay out how degenerate and corrupt his spending was, and they didn't have
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to do that. The indictment could have been nine pages long with the mere statutes, but they went
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into the hookers, they went into the pimps, they went into the crack dealers. And even more important
00:49:50.680
than that, they went into the foreign entities that capitalized Hunter in the first place, but they
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stopped short. They described the Romania shakedown. They described the Ukrainian shakedown and the
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Tricom shakedown. But what they didn't do was say what we all know to be true, which is Hunter's
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relationships with those entities weren't legitimate in the first place. Hunter Biden is not a legitimate
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businessman. He doesn't even know how to operate an Excel spreadsheet. He was never called upon for
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any level of expertise. The only reason why he got that money in the first place was because he was
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an unregistered agent for those foreign principals. And so this is a step along the way. You can be sure
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that Kevin Morris has a puckered behind this morning because he committed tax violations.
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There's going to be an FEC complaint submitted on our Marco Polo's behalf very shortly about an email
00:50:45.720
that was released by the Ways and Means Committee on Wednesday about Kevin Morris taking care of
00:50:50.800
Hunter's politically fraught taxes. So it's a quid pro joe right in February of 2020 where you got
00:50:58.280
Morris taking the 1.4 off the table. It's absolutely disgusting and criminal. But this is a step forward.
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It's the only step forward I've seen in 18 months.
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Hang on for a second. Two things. I want to hold you through the break. We have a nice second break
00:51:14.780
coming up. But because I do want to get into the quickly to the pimps, the perversion, all that,
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but we'll do it after the break. Does this for all the attacks you've taken and all the incoming
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you've taken and particularly guys like Rudy and myself and particularly Rudy on a laptop from hell,
00:51:28.880
does this does this begin the justification that, hey, all the lies and Joe Biden stood in front of
00:51:34.260
the country and said, my son never did anything wrong? Does this begin to get to the truth that
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they're a bunch of perverts and degenerates and have taken money from the CCP, the Ukrainians,
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everybody to fund their perversion and degeneracy?
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It shuts them up for a quick minute. Now they're going to go lower on the rung of logical fallacy so
00:51:54.680
you can expect more ad hominem attacks in the next 72 hours because the upper rung of arguments of
00:52:01.820
refuting a central point, using reason to make an analysis, those are gone for them because even
00:52:08.380
GOP prosecutors. Remember, these prosecutors, Leo Wise and Derek Hines, they're acolytes of Rod
00:52:15.800
Rosenstein. I have nothing in common with them, but guess what? This wasn't just put in their lap.
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This was handed to them on a silver platter. Any ASUA where this salt could have put together this
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indictment because the evidence is all there. Hell, Hunter had the gall to use bank statements that
00:52:35.640
clearly show payments to pornography websites as business deductions. I mean, I would love to go
00:52:42.940
into any two-bit University of America and put these bank statements in their accounting classes and
00:52:49.740
say, hey, which of these are legitimate business expenses? A 19-year-old could figure.
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Accounting 101. Okay, Garrett, just hang up for one second. Take a short break, 90-second break.
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