Nikki Haley is in Iowa, and things are looking good for her in the early primary states. But what will it take for her to take the lead in New Hampshire? Is she the only candidate with momentum there? And can she hold on to her lead?
00:00:00.100Governor, thanks for joining us. So Ambassador Haley's in Iowa today, where the latest CBS News poll finds her at 13 percent in third place there.
00:00:07.860What part of her message is not resonating with voters in that crucial state, even as some polls indicate she's surging in New Hampshire, your state?
00:00:17.120Yeah, sure. So understand the messages are always going to be a little bit different, a little bit tailored to each state.
00:00:21.780Whether live for your die state, I think she has a great decentralizing government message that translates here.
00:00:26.340I think it's just a matter of kind of putting that message on the ground there.
00:00:28.940Everybody and all the Republicans in Iowa want government out of their lives.
00:00:33.020They all want somebody who's going to be fiscally responsible and secure the border.
00:00:36.420These are the policies that we all agree on. Now, getting it done is really the difference maker.
00:00:40.600Who has that record of experience? So I think if she just spends more time in Iowa, she's going to get a lot of the similar results that she's gotten here.
00:00:48.220And again, there's four or five weeks to go. People say that's not a lot of time. It's actually a ton of time.
00:00:53.060Poll numbers can move 10, 20 points in these last four or five weeks.
00:00:55.740And I have no doubt she's the only one with momentum in the last couple weeks and the only one that's going to carry it right until January 23rd.
00:01:02.520Well, let's talk about this latest poll out of New Hampshire, which finds Trump still in first place, 44 percent.
00:01:07.620Haley's at 29 percent. That's a big bump for her.
00:01:10.300Ron DeSantis is at 11 percent. Chris Christie at 10 percent.
00:01:13.980Do you think somebody needs to drop out before New Hampshire primary takes place for Nikki Haley to make up those 15 points in order to win the state?
00:01:24.740I don't think it has to happen. And I think what you're going to see is the voters are going to come around Nikki anyways.
00:01:29.580Chris Christie's voters have one mission, right, to make sure Trump's not the candidate because that's Chris's mission.
00:01:34.220But now it's clear. Unfortunately, Chris is a great candidate, a great guy, a great governor.
00:01:38.480But that's not the path. So they're all going to naturally come this way.
00:01:42.160DeSantis' voters, even some of the Trump voters are now realizing, well, Trump's not inevitable.
00:01:46.660We have a choice and it's really a binary choice.
00:01:49.060So I think naturally she's going to get enough of a bump with the voters.
00:01:52.060And maybe ultimately, you know, someone chooses to drop out.
00:01:54.720That's really their choice. I'm not going to force anyone to drop out.
00:03:11.160We got a lot to go through with all that.
00:03:13.840I want to thank everybody who was there, and we have tons of content from there we're going to go through.
00:03:17.980I want to start, though, with Richard Barris, some major polling coming from Big Data, the People's Pundit, but I think it dovetails with some other polling.
00:03:25.280So we got Richard Barris going to walk us through some of his primary polling.
00:03:29.720Then we have Boris Epstein from President Trump's senior advisor for All Things Legal.
00:03:34.420He's going to step here and give us his observation of that.
00:03:37.040Then we're going to do national polling and get Boris's take on that.
00:03:40.440So, Richard, first off, you heard Sununu, right, the little pipsqueak, you know, keeps barking, keeps yapping at President Trump's heel like a toy dog.
00:04:04.220The first one you want to show people, definitely there it is, is that map.
00:04:07.540We show these maps to people every time we have a poll come out, and really it gives a visual of where people can expect a certain candidate to have support.
00:04:16.320Now, President Trump has been leading, so that map has been pretty red the entire time.
00:04:20.900But, Steve, that's a dominant map from sea to shining sea.
00:04:23.960This is the headline from the primary poll, which you can see in the next chart if they want to throw that up.
00:06:09.720Particularly, you know, Raheem Ghassam did an amazing job of really tearing apart that – I think it was on Sunday when it first came out, Sunday morning.
00:06:17.580Raheem over at National Pulse was all over it to show you all the kind of weirdness in that poll, the sample size, how it went up, how it went down.
00:07:21.960Yeah, she may be surging against the Florida governor, but she's not surging against the runaway leader of the Republican primary and of the general election.
00:07:33.320And that's why you've got all this lawfare, you've got all this weaponization going on against President Trump, because it is clear that there is no race, as Richard said.
00:07:42.200It was never competitive, and it's not even close to being competitive now, right?
00:07:46.540President Trump is on his way to Iowa as we speak.
00:07:49.020He's going to, again, assert his dominance over Iowa.
00:07:51.420He's every single day putting out powerhouse statements on everything from foreign policy to national security to, of course, weaponization and the way that he and his family and his business are being attacked.
00:08:02.600What are these other so-called candidates, but really pretenders, doing?
00:08:06.500All they're doing is whining and attacking each other.
00:08:09.200Kim Reynolds, the Iowa governor, doesn't like that President Trump has ads out with her words about him.
00:08:19.380And she needs to somehow account for the fact that she begged for President Trump's endorsement, went out there over and over speaking about how great President Trump is, and now, oh, no, she's with the Florida governor.
00:08:34.420And if you look across the spectrum that matters, which is the American voter, the Republican voter, the Democrat voter, the independent voter, the American people are backing President Trump in huge, overwhelming numbers because they know the contrast between today and just a short three years ago.
00:08:52.480Our country energy, not just independent but dominant, our economy soaring, us being respected and feared by both allies and adversaries alike.
00:09:10.640So, Richard, you've said this from the beginning.
00:09:15.080Your polling showed you that particularly people were able – were willing to look at DeSantis maybe at one time, but it was always Trump-lite.
00:09:23.440And when you got the original, why go to the Ertz-ed copy, as he starts to fade, those voters start to go to – back to President Trump.
00:09:31.540And this will only make a bigger spread over Nikki Haley.
00:09:34.780Is that basically your theory of the case as you're seeing the data come in, the numbers come in?
00:09:39.420Yeah, just to kind of reinforce something Boris said, this is just the reshuffling of the bottom of the deck.
00:09:47.580So big deal, Haley bumped DeSantis out of second place.
00:09:51.560She's at 10 percent, 9 percent, and DeSantis is now at 7 or 8.
00:09:56.320I mean they're – when I keep talking about these lanes, they're just not big enough for somebody to leapfrog the president or have some serious chance to do that.
00:10:06.620I don't know anyone, whether they're on the left or right, who seriously wants to have that discussion outside of just paid shills, Steve.
00:10:13.860This is math, and the math is very clear.
00:10:24.140President Trump's people is going to – they're going to get into that caucus, and there are going to be people who were committed to DeSantis but were committed months ago.
00:10:31.220And now – they still love President Trump, and when they get in there, President Trump's captains, the people who are caucusing for him are going to say, look, he's got nowhere to go after Iowa.
00:10:42.560Months ago, maybe there was a question about electability.
00:11:24.320You know, I mean it's showing as a battleground right there in the northern Rust Belt.
00:11:29.380But it's not supposed to be that much of a battleground to the east of that, Steve, where the mid-Atlantic is.
00:11:34.540Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey make up the mid-Atlantic.
00:11:38.120Joe Biden is a one-point lead, which tells you the former president is running much stronger than he should be in New York, which other polls have showed as well.
00:11:50.260And then we had Pennsylvania last month.
00:11:52.540So I'm not surprised to see Pennsylvania him doing very well in.
00:11:55.980But this is for the first time ever in polling President Trump going back to 2016 when you – even when you lean people, we have never had President Trump at or above 50 percent.
00:12:14.300You know, from a pollster's perspective, we don't stress this enough.
00:12:18.160When somebody gets to 50 or gets above 50, which is why the primary polling too is so important, it's statistically significant.
00:12:25.140It means we would have to – there would have to be something very, very arise, Steve, for it to not go down 19 out of 20 times the way that – you know, roughly within sampling eras that we expected to.
00:12:38.480Trump has always outperformed those polls.
00:12:40.700He has never in our poll – you know, we've never seen his support among Hispanics be overstated, his support among African-Americans be overstated.
00:12:49.500We've always had it pretty much right where it is.
00:13:33.460And his lead only grows – I don't know if they continue to go on, but if you go down that table, that shows all of the different scenarios, whether it's head-to-head with Joe Biden, whether you add Kennedy to the mix, whether you add everyone, Kennedy, Mapstead, yeah, there you go, West and Stein.
00:13:49.340His lead grows not because any of these candidates are particularly great for him.
00:13:54.280I still think Kennedy chips away a little bit in some areas.
00:13:57.740But the fact is President Trump has a base that nobody else has, and there just comes a point where his lead refuses to fall.
00:14:05.900You can see it starts above 50 percent.
00:14:07.820As you add generics, as you add these people, it chips down, but it refuses to fall below 45.
00:14:17.620I want to get Boris in here for his analysis.
00:14:19.340But one of the things I've been saying for a while, and I think hopefully the campaign will take – if Trump locks down his base and gets the base to turn out, I think this could be game over, right?
00:14:32.480If you see these other groups that are coming, you lock in that massive MAGA base, and you've got new participants coming in, African-American men.
00:14:39.640The Hispanic, conservative Hispanic families have had a belly full of this.
00:14:43.420You're looking at what could be a blowout if you deliver, if people turn out.
00:14:47.080That's where the MAGA base is so important.
00:14:50.280Boris, Richard Barris, Raheem Fassam were packed on a late afternoon in December in the war room.
00:14:57.400I know this is hard to believe, but we're up against another government shutdown later this month, and our wise leaders deal with it how they always do, with more spending.
00:15:11.160While lawmakers are high-fiving, your savings account continues to lose value because more spending weakens the dollar.
00:26:08.900I want to go back to this because this is a topic we're going to break down even more because it's going to have such a massive impact for this country.
00:26:20.680There was a – Harry Dent gave an interview over at Fox Business.
00:26:25.320I will have it on tomorrow about this flooding of the zone of fiat currency.
00:26:31.180But you're going to have both monetary policy and fiscal policy.
00:26:35.820Remember, fiscal policy is about the spending.
00:27:31.560This is why these budget battles coming back are not just for the simple fact that we have to do this to save the economy and to save where we are.
00:27:40.300But we also – it's a weapon they're using to get the illegitimate Biden regime back in office.
00:27:46.760Also, it's what the deep state and the administrative state do.
00:27:49.000So go to birchgold.com slash bannon right now.
00:27:52.200You might also want to talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
00:28:09.260Raheem Kassam, National Pulse, next in the war room.
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00:33:56.080We've got a cold open, a major piece that Raheem did on Sunday that's resonating around the political sphere.
00:34:01.180Let's go ahead and play the cold open.
00:34:04.380So, what do you have to say to the former president's comments over the weekend about immigrants and saying that they're poisoning the blood of America?
00:34:12.340Well, look, I've been asked this question a number of times, and here's my view on these comments.
00:34:17.620First of all, he didn't say immigrants were poisoning the blood of this country.
00:34:20.940He said illegal immigrants were poisoning the blood of the country, which is objectively and obviously true to anybody who looks at the statistics about fentanyl overdoses.
00:34:30.480And I think just one observation about the press as an organization, you guys seem far more upset about the guy who criticized the problem than you did about Joe Biden, who's causing this problem.
00:34:42.240Can you just go back to his comments, though, and sort of using language that we heard during World War II?
00:35:09.480Why do you think that Donald Trump's language is targeted at the blood of the immigrants and not at the blood of the American citizens who are being poisoned by the fentanyl problem?
00:35:18.820You think he was referring to fentanyl?
00:35:20.540If you watch the speech in context and you look at what's going on, it is obvious that he was talking about the very clear fact that the blood of Americans is being poisoned by a drug epidemic.
00:35:33.420To take that comment and then to immediately assume that he's talking about immigrants as Adolf Hitler talked about Jews is preposterous.
00:35:43.900So you guys need to wake up and actually do some journalism.
00:35:46.640Should he use different language then?
00:35:48.100Because that is language that Hitler uses.
00:35:49.760Here's the problem with that question and that framing.
00:36:31.360And President Trump, I should just add, just as we came up, just tweeted out that piece, that hit from J.D. Vance, which seemed like J.D. had read your editorial, sir.
00:36:44.680And I have been in touch with Senator Vance's team over this.
00:36:48.720So I do believe that what he was saying there did actually come from having read the National Pulse's editorial on this in the last 24 hours.
00:36:56.680You know, there are a lot of things to unpack here, but I'll start with the very simple thing, which is AP's own history with the Nazi regime.
00:37:04.900A lot of students of history will remember that the Associated Press, in fact, actually signed an agreement with Nazi Germany to not undermine the Reich, to not undermine Adolf Hitler.
00:37:16.760And so the projection is strong in that question.
00:37:19.920But that aside, I think, you know, I wrote a book about a British parliamentarian who, in 1968, got in a lot of trouble for using the phrase rivers of blood.
00:37:30.760And I dare say that what we're seeing right now is sort of Donald Trump's rivers of blood moment.
00:37:38.200And what I mean by that is this, the press, the corporate media is obviously going out of their way at the moment to misunderstand and misrepresent what President Trump is saying.
00:37:48.460I was the first person he said it to, by the way, in that interview that I did with him three months ago at Mar-a-Lago was the first time he used the phrase poisoning the blood of our country.
00:37:57.700And he explained it, and he explained it contextually by talking about the mental health issues that are being pumped into America.
00:38:06.340You know, he says people from the insane asylums.
00:38:10.140He talked about the drug cartels, the sex trafficking, the child sex trafficking that's going on.
00:38:16.260All of these things that, you know, I think most reasonable people, most CBP officers, most people who study the data,
00:38:25.060will show you have skyrocketed under Joe Biden and the Biden regime.
00:38:30.140And when you look at the sheer numbers alone, even if you set aside all of the demerit that is coming in over the border,
00:38:36.980if you take the numbers alone of illegal migrants, you're going to be closing in on 10 million very soon into the United States illegally under just a couple of years of the Biden regime.
00:38:49.880And so when you take all of that together and you hear the media complaining about the quote-unquote extremism of Donald Trump's comments,
00:38:59.580well, the real extremism is the policy that is being enacted.
00:39:09.160And the border has been surged ever since.
00:39:11.380It is the policy of this regime in the White House right now to surge the U.S. border, to break the U.S. border, to break the United States as a result of it.
00:39:22.420And I think this reaction that you're seeing right now, just as in 1968, the press reaction to Enoch Powell saying, you know, we're going to have rivers of blood.
00:39:39.560It is a willful distortion, and it is meant not just to misrepresent Donald Trump, but it is meant to misdirect ordinary Americans from the carnage that is taking place in America today.
00:39:50.540This is why you see it in high relief.
00:40:43.660They're breaking the asylum laws to allow and exacerbate, initiate and exacerbate an invasion of the country.
00:40:49.700Next hour, we're going to have people coming back from AmFest out of Phoenix Airport, couldn't even get on the planes because of so many illegal alien invaders put on planes and paid for by your tax dollars and treated like first-class citizens.
00:41:03.820Raheem, what is it going to take for the Republican, the globalist Republicans to throw in here and say, hey, even got Abbott and these guys have been terrible up to now, are actually passing bills, being forced to sign bills that MAGA representatives in the state of Texas are passing.
00:41:21.020What is it going to take for the globalist Republicans to understand that their fate as politicians depend upon them coming in hard?
00:41:30.380And this is an invasion by illegal aliens, okay, by illegal aliens.
00:41:36.700So quit harping on Trump and start harping on what the problem is, brother.
00:41:39.900Yeah, and I think we can also see, I think they've got the clip ready to play here of Mitch McConnell's response to a question that he was asked about this as well.
00:41:53.060And I think it's worthwhile considering how a lot of these rhino Republicans are dealing with this issue because, of course, they are going to immediately and instinctively side with the former Nazi-associated press, right?
00:42:08.120Instead of actually representing the real case as it stands on the border.
00:42:23.080Are you comfortable with your party's leading presidential candidate referring to illegal immigrants as people are poisoning the blood of our country?
00:42:31.720Well, it strikes me that didn't bother him when he appointed Elaine Chao, secretary of transportation.
00:42:38.120So McConnell has rarely talked about Donald Trump and all the controversies that come along with Trump through the campaign trail.
00:42:47.700In fact, in the aftermath of January 6th, the 6th has very rarely invoked the former president's name, even in the past.
00:42:53.960And by the way, his wife, although a CCP-adjacent asset, her old man made all his money with the CCP.
00:43:04.160And by the way, I adamantly opposed her to going to the cabinet, but hey, I'm just one schmendrick with one voice.
00:43:31.000Yeah, well, or Steve, maybe Mitch McConnell is telling us something about his wife that we don't know yet.
00:43:37.700But it's very clear that Donald Trump was talking about drug traffickers, child sex traffickers, and criminals who are coming over the border.
00:43:46.740That's the poisoning the blood of the country comment.
00:43:49.420And so maybe Mitch McConnell is confessing to something about Elaine Chao that I don't know.
00:43:53.180But if he isn't, what he's doing there is necessarily siding with the lying corporate media over all of this.
00:43:58.040So I think Mitch McConnell's going to be asked the question again.
00:44:00.300You know, are you saying that your wife is a child sex trafficker or are you a freaking liar?
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00:46:50.720All this power in the polling is you being force multiplier as you be the tip of the spear.
00:46:55.380That being said, as you can imagine, we have guests on there that the tip of the spear news, but so much is happening.
00:47:01.960We have a very tough time because it gets very difficult and kind of a little off note to do a lot of the breaking news and other things we would normally do.
00:47:11.260So that's why we got to play catch up here for a couple of days, although I'm determined not to go on the injured reserve list here, given the four days there.
00:47:21.700I want to make sure everybody, this financial aspect of this, the Harry Dent interview over at Fox Business, where he said, look, it's been the greatest infusion of liquidity and capital into the system.
00:47:38.920Plus, I don't know, something like the spending, I get the numbers right, because it was like 20, 30, you know, the spending's been out of control since 2008.
00:47:51.260The infusion of liquidity into the system by fiat currency has been out of control.
00:47:56.560The deficits have been out of control.
00:47:58.660We've essentially gone from under $10 trillion to now $34 trillion, okay, and it's going to get higher.
00:48:04.740And you have two things, you have the fiscal side, which the House has to step up, and if I can give any advice to Mike Johnson at all, the speaker, is don't be conventional.
00:48:16.600You're talking in political speak, you're talking in D.C. speak, you're talking inside the Beltway speak, and you have just not a national but an international global crisis caused by the spending, the fiscal irresponsibility of the stimulus,
00:48:30.840given where this massive Keynesian stimulus, you inherited, you took this seat over with our backing and the Warren Posse's backing.
00:48:40.780You don't need to play by the handshake deals that McCarthy had.
00:49:11.540First of all, personally, you need to go to talk to the folks at Birch Gold.
00:49:14.480Second, you need to get all the end of the dollar empire.
00:49:17.140We're working on a fifth installment right now, the first four.
00:49:20.460And, hey, they weren't talking about flooding the zone until we started talking about the gold standard.
00:49:25.740Getting off the gold standard was the convertibility of dollars into gold in 1971 in mid-August was all done by a, wait for it, executive order.