Bannon's War Room - Episode 3438： Engaging In More Than Just The Election

00:00:00.000 The right to vote is still under attack, and that is why the Justice Department is fighting back.

00:00:08.340 That is why one of the first things I did when I came into office was to double the size of the

00:00:13.240 voting section of the Civil Rights Division. That is why we are challenging efforts by states and

00:00:19.880 jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on

00:00:25.960 access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter

00:00:32.540 ID requirements. That is why we are working to block the adoption of discriminatory redistricting plans

00:00:40.780 that dilute the vote of black voters and other voters of color.

00:00:47.000 Member of the Board of Elections at DeKalb County, Georgia, quote,

00:00:49.560 Despite no evidence to support their claims, we, unfortunately, are preparing for the onslaught

00:00:54.460 of significantly more voter challenges by certain groups attempting to remove voters

00:00:59.000 from the voter roll ahead of the November general election, despite no evidence to support their

00:01:04.660 claims. Pro-Trump stop-the-steel activists are ramping up efforts to kick people off the

00:01:12.020 voter rolls in a whole bunch of swing states, not just to make it harder for people to vote,

00:01:15.800 but also, according to reporting in today's New York Times, to create fodder for conservatives

00:01:21.940 challenging the election results if Trump loses the election again. That's new reporting from the

00:01:27.480 New York Times, including reporter Nick Corsaniti and Alexandra Brezan. Nick Corsaniti joins us now

00:01:34.880 here in studio. Nick, thanks very much for being here. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

00:01:37.540 So, I feel like it's been a lot of years that I've been covering what I would call voter suppression

00:01:43.600 efforts, effort to clean the voter rolls, meaning purge people off the voter rolls. It always seems to

00:01:47.780 happen right before elections. It often seems to target mostly Democratic voters. It often seems

00:01:52.360 to be done by conservative leaning groups. This feels not just tactically, or not just

00:01:58.280 technologically different, it feels sort of tactically different, that there's kind of a

00:02:01.300 new element to it this year. Is that fair to say? Well, I think one of the things that's very new

00:02:06.040 right now is just how coordinated this is, both on like a very large macro level and then at the

00:02:11.140 state level. So, we've seen these loose networks of people who are stop the steal, who are either

00:02:17.300 election deniers or people who are just very conservative on issues of voting, all kind of

00:02:22.100 coming together and uniting under some leaders. Cleta Mitchell, you know, the lawyer who helped

00:02:26.420 Trump try and overturn some of the results in the 2020 election, has been a leader. Mike Lindell, the

00:02:31.360 CEO of my pillow, who's, you know, believes that machines are corrupted. He's another leader.

00:02:37.020 And what they've done is they've kind of established this loose connection where they

00:02:41.040 meet on Zoom. They meet on calls in states like Michigan and Georgia and Arizona. And they're

00:02:46.460 talking and trading tactics and they're building software. They're actually building new software

00:02:50.400 now. In Georgia, there's two new pieces of software that are about to roll out for this

00:02:54.520 election specifically. So, it's designed to target voters who they want to get kicked off the rolls. 0.65

00:02:59.360 Yeah. One will be looking exactly at the national change of address form and trying to identify

00:03:04.100 voters that have changed. And another is this database that is basically like a couple million

00:03:09.480 voter files. And then they try and match that to other databases, kind of like what Eric used to do

00:03:14.040 until they got rid of Eric. And those are being developed, you know, by a conservative-leading

00:03:18.500 organization just to facilitate, help facilitate voter challenges. So, it's a much more sophisticated

00:03:24.080 effort. And they're also getting much more savvy in some of these tactics. Like in Michigan,

00:03:29.680 for example, they discovered a law on state books from 1954 that said that if you, if an elector

00:03:37.480 challenges another elector, singular, then there's a process that begins and they attest to it with a

00:03:43.160 signed affidavit that that voter must be removed from the rolls if they're not, if they don't respond

00:03:47.620 within 30 days. That's very different than the federal statute and the NVRA, which is two federal

00:03:52.840 election cycles. So, they found a loophole.

00:03:55.420 That lets them move more aggressively.

00:03:57.340 Exactly. And so, they started sending these notes directly to municipal clerks saying that you have

00:04:02.400 to follow this law. And we found, you know, these voters, sometimes it was dozens, sometimes it was

00:04:07.080 just four, saying, we've checked, we're attesting to this. And due to this law on state books, you have

00:04:13.880 to follow the law. And some clerks were like, okay. And in Genoa, about 100 were removed. In Waterford,

00:04:19.740 there was about 1,000 removed.

00:04:20.880 Now, the Secretary of State stepped in once. We actually noticed this, my colleague, Ali Burzon,

00:04:25.920 on the story was the one who found this in the first place. And so, just the fact that they were

00:04:30.740 able to find this state law.

00:04:32.300 The clerk didn't know about it until you called and asked for comment.

00:04:35.660 The Secretary of State.

00:04:36.340 I don't speak Supreme Courtese, but all I read was shade. Shade and more shade from your former boss,

00:04:45.580 Justice Sotomayor, and her colleagues. They opened in their, what felt like more of a dissent,

00:04:52.220 honestly, than a concurrence, in which they said, y'all did too much. You just had to say,

00:04:58.160 states can't enforce Section 3 and leave it there. But you had to keep going. You felt like you had to

00:05:02.580 tell people how to enforce Section 3. You felt like you had to instruct Congress. Did you read

00:05:07.260 that as shade as I did?

00:05:09.620 I think it was shade all the way down, Joy. And more than that, I think this was nominally

00:05:14.440 a concurrence, but it had real big D energy, big dissent energy. And they basically made clear

00:05:20.820 that this is a court that's kind of high on its own supply. It name-checked the Chief Justice in the

00:05:26.460 first opening paragraph. Again, I think that was meant to indicate that he was the principal

00:05:30.980 architect of the Procurum opinion. And also to make clear that someone who is ostensibly an

00:05:35.440 institutionalist at this court didn't necessarily seem to be an institutionalist in this instance,

00:05:40.340 where the court went much further than they needed to, to decide this question. And by the end,

00:05:45.940 these three ladies were essentially saying that this court is pretty much enabling Donald Trump 0.61

00:05:52.540 in a lot of ways. Not necessarily directly, but in these opinions and going further than they have

00:05:58.480 to, they basically laid a foundation where Section 3 is virtually inoperative after the election,

00:06:04.460 and Congress is authorized to do everything. But Congress, as Jenna Griswold said, is not really

00:06:10.240 in a position to act expeditiously going forward. Do the clerks and the local officials who are being

00:06:15.940 targeted by these efforts, obviously it's voters who are being targeted, but they're being targeted

00:06:19.560 through local officials. Do the local officials like kind of have the wherewithal to deal with

00:06:24.380 this? Do they know what they're up against? Are they being kind of pushed into this? They're being

00:06:28.040 told they're breaking the law and they must do what these activists want them to do.

00:06:31.580 Well, I think some are very much afraid of breaking the law and, you know, they're under a microscope like

00:06:35.660 they've never been before. Yeah. There's poll watchers everywhere who are, you know, trying to either

00:06:39.420 catch a mistake, catch anything that they can to seize on either challenge or kind of change the election.

00:06:44.680 So I think so many election officials are overtaxed. They're underpaid, you know, all election offices

00:06:51.680 across the country don't have enough money to simply carry out elections. And there's been

00:06:55.460 numerous laws recently preventing them from getting other sources of money. And then Congress isn't

00:06:59.660 passing the bill or part of the budget in Congress to give elections more money. So they have a lot on

00:07:07.020 their plate. And if they see an email that's like, you got to follow the law, some just think I have to

00:07:10.900 follow the law. It's in front of me. Others are more familiar with this. You know, if you look at

00:07:15.360 Georgia in the 2021 Senate runoff elections, there were 360,000 voter challenges. That's a massive

00:07:22.980 amount of challenges. They hadn't seen that forever. So they're a little bit more familiar with the

00:07:27.120 statutes and they're ready to, you know, assess these, how valid they are. They do have a process

00:07:32.160 that they have to follow. Georgia passed the law in 2021 that kind of expanded what you can do to

00:07:37.860 challenge a voter, but they're a little bit more prepared. Yeah. It's, I mean, they're good. If

00:07:42.540 they're getting blowtorch attention from one side, that's going to have an effect in terms of how they 0.82

00:07:47.400 react. And they're going to need support among other things to, to know the right thing to do and

00:07:51.900 to be able to stand up against pressure. But I will just leave you with this. There, there's no magic

00:07:58.600 spell. There's no solution that is going to come say from the Supreme court. The Supreme court did the

00:08:05.460 favor of reminding us all of that today when they ruled that Trump will stay on the ballot all over

00:08:10.320 the country. They gave us that reminder today after last week, they made sure we knew it in the first

00:08:14.900 place when they somewhat inexplicably took action to delay all the Trump, the Trump criminal trials, except

00:08:22.480 the one they couldn't stop until after the election. There's no magic wand coming to stop this thing.

00:08:31.880 There's no, you know, magic beans that you can grow here that makes some beanstalk take us away from all

00:08:37.120 of this. There's only one way out of this pick one. The democratic party has picked its nominee. Yes.

00:08:44.900 It's an old guy who is doing practical, normal, and popular things as president and who has a lot to

00:08:50.040 show for it, particularly in terms of how well things are going economically since he has been at

00:08:54.880 the helm. The Republican party is pretty obviously picking their guy as well. Also an old guy who,

00:09:01.180 for example, cannot say the word Venezuela and who has no idea who is the current president of the

00:09:05.880 United States currently riding high on his party's abortion bans and measles, curious,

00:09:11.400 virological denialist free associating. He's trying to warm the American people up to the idea of just a

00:09:17.480 little bit of dictatorship from him. And he's getting us ready to, you know, start building camps to hold

00:09:23.300 millions because his advisors say the deportation start at noon on day one.

00:09:31.300 The courts are not going to help. The law will be a sidebar to the main decision.

00:09:38.060 You will make this decision. The only way this decision will be made is by you picking one,

00:09:44.840 by you volunteering and donating and campaigning and deciding it matters enough to you to not only

00:09:51.980 vote, but to help, to help your candidate try to win. The Republican party really, really is amazing

00:09:59.040 right now. But the only thing that will stop them is Democrats winning instead. Period. Full stop.

00:10:08.320 Thank you, United States Supreme Court, for the clarification, the campaign. If we didn't know

00:10:12.320 it already, the campaign starts now.

00:10:15.380 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:10:22.440 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these

00:10:30.440 networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like

00:10:35.740 hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to

00:10:38.700 stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:10:43.140 MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself,

00:10:51.640 what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will

00:10:59.260 be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:11:03.980 It's Tuesday, 5 March in the year of our Lord, 2024. It is Super Tuesday. But as we said for a long

00:11:15.440 time, it's really the general election starts and you heard Rachel Maddow. Remember, Rachel Maddow

00:11:20.540 is the brains of the operation. What she says, she drives MSNBC. She's like the executive editor.

00:11:27.480 What she says in her show only comes on Mondays now, drives the entire network and it

00:11:32.160 inextricably links with the New York Times. She said it yesterday after starting with how crazy

00:11:37.960 the Republican Party is, how evil the Republican Party is. She gave it to him with both barrels. 0.95

00:11:42.820 Hey, the courts are not going to save us. The Supreme Court's not going to step here. All this

00:11:47.620 nonsense, all the lawfare is not going to work. They now have to focus on quote unquote winning,

00:11:53.720 which means for them stealing. And then they had a really, really strong, tough reporter at the New

00:11:59.840 York Times, Nick Crestani, who's a grinder, who's done this amazing deep dive onto many of the folks

00:12:07.060 that we have on here all the time. We're going to have four of the best. We got Engelbrick,

00:12:11.700 we got Cleta Mitchell, we got Mike Lindell, we got Patty McMurray, because the Gateway Pundit and

00:12:18.060 their efforts up in Michigan are all mentioned in this article. And you saw she ended the show

00:12:22.100 by this and you should have seen her face. It was like in tears because they understand that

00:12:27.980 we are fighting back at a grassroots level and will not allow under any circumstances a repeat

00:12:34.300 of how this election was stolen in 2020. I want to start with Catherine Engelbrick. She's at a

00:12:38.940 conference. Catherine, True the Vote, you've got a big part of this article. Tell us, do they have

00:12:44.900 a right to be, Garland says that you're a nativist, xenophobe, racist, all of it because of the work

00:12:50.540 that True the Vote's doing. And of course, the New York Times has many unpleasant things to say about

00:12:54.760 your response. Look, these folks, it's just, it's another day in bizarro world. They want to

00:13:02.980 hardwire an inaccurate process and institutionalize the fraud. And then they use these media puppets to

00:13:10.020 try to convince us that wrong is right. And you said it exactly correctly, that America's sick of it.

00:13:15.720 We're sick of it. And we are fighting back and we're winning. But we have to stand on principle.

00:13:21.220 Our election process is broken. And that is what I'm so thrilled to see so many other organizations

00:13:28.720 standing up and taking action. It's exactly what needs to happen. Not a moment too soon.

00:13:34.480 And here we are there. We should expect this caterwiling to continue. And we're going to keep

00:13:40.620 fighting back.

00:13:41.160 Catherine, I want people, part of this is that each of you doing work and they're saying there's

00:13:47.800 you guys, all you guys have hundreds of thousands of people working with you,

00:13:50.740 but you're forming like a soft alliance. Where do people go right now? I know you got to bounce

00:13:54.740 back in your, in your meeting. Where do people go right now to find all the work you're doing

00:13:58.740 and do a deep dive on True the Vote?

00:14:02.040 And go to truthevote.org. And at the top of the page, you'll see a button that says engage,

00:14:07.420 click on that. And from that will be a dropdown of all the ways you can connect with us.

00:14:13.020 But whether you work with True the Vote or any other organization, please engage, engage,

00:14:19.280 engage. This year voting is not enough. Please engage, serve, be a part of your local elections.

00:14:25.800 We are winning.

00:14:29.460 Remember, they imprisoned Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht to break them.

00:14:34.200 Couldn't break them. Catherine Engelbrecht, you're an American patron here.

00:14:37.040 Thank you for joining us this morning, ma'am.

00:14:39.880 Thanks so much for having me.

00:14:43.540 Maddow focused, focused exactly like she always does on the thing itself.

00:14:48.740 That is, it's all down now to Trump's going to have a massive turnout. Can they steal it?

00:14:54.340 Cleta Mitchell, Mike Lindell, Patty McMurray, next in the war room.

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00:17:43.860 administrative state. Victoria Nuland, war criminal, architect of Ukraine, wife of 0.88

00:17:53.500 Robert Kagan, who wrote the Red Caesar piece for the Washington Post, which is the moral

00:17:59.020 justification of the assassination of Donald J. Trump. Retired today from the State Department

00:18:05.260 this morning. Jack Posobo is going to join us. Raheem's already got it up at National Pulse.

00:18:10.220 Victoria Nuland, preserve your documents and lawyer up, baby, because we are coming for you. 1.00

00:18:16.420 You are the fountainhead of everything about this Ukraine situation. Remember, she just ran over

00:18:25.160 there a week ago to stop the coup of the generals. Also, amazing stories in Washington Post and

00:18:30.720 Semaphore, Ben Smith's Semaphore, about Zelensky. There's no chance. There's a huge fight inside the

00:18:37.120 country. There's no chance the parents are allowing the 500,000 new troops to be press-ganged by

00:18:45.380 Zelensky's oligarch government to have their lives wasted in the trenches on the Russian-speaking 0.75

00:18:51.340 eastern border of these two Slavic entities. Let's go back to it. Rachel Maddow laid it out. She told

00:18:58.420 him yesterday, because all of us wailing and gnashing teeth all day, and they were curled up in the fetal

00:19:03.200 position, and Weissman sucking his thumb, and, you know, the whole thing, hair on fire, crying. She laid

00:19:08.700 it down. Hey, the courts are not going to save us. Lawfare, we tried it. It didn't work.

00:19:12.860 Didn't work. It's all about 5 November, and that's a clarion call to, hey, get up, get ready. We got to

00:19:20.600 steal this, because Trump's going to come in with more votes than he did in 2020. Two of the big

00:19:27.760 villains in the piece, Engelbrecht was one, the Trinity here, where Engelbrecht, Cleta Mitchell,

00:19:34.000 and Mike Lindell. Let's go to Cleta Mitchell, Election Integrity Network. Be specific, Cleta. Why is it,

00:19:39.720 because they're talking about not only you guys have gone around the country, you're doing training,

00:19:43.100 you're recruiting people at every level, you're building momentum, you're building willpower,

00:19:47.460 but you're also now starting to work in soft alliances, which has really got them freaked out.

00:19:51.860 Why is the New York Times seem to have singled out my own Cleta Mitchell, who I know and love,

00:19:56.740 and has been one of my lawyers for over a decade? Why are they picking on you? You're one of the nicest,

00:20:01.720 you're one of the nicest, sweetest people I've ever met. Why are they picking on you, Cleta?

00:20:05.820 Because of the thousands and thousands of volunteers nationwide, who are cleaning voter

00:20:13.560 rolls, who are doing so much work. That's why they're going after us. They're going after me,

00:20:19.000 because I represent all of these wonderful volunteers who actually get out and read the

00:20:24.400 law. Did you notice what they talked about? They talked about, oh my gosh, there's this statute that

00:20:29.040 says the voter rolls have to be cleaned. And people are saying to their local election officials,

00:20:34.260 clean the voter rolls. This law says you have to. They hate that. They hate the fact that there are

00:20:38.960 people, patriots all over this country, many members of the posse. We need many, many, many

00:20:43.660 more members of the posse to get engaged and get involved and help us, because we've got to get

00:20:48.200 these illegal, bad registrations off the rolls. And we have to stop non-citizens from voting. 0.99

00:20:54.020 That's something we're getting ready to unveil, a big, massive effort on that. So

00:20:57.480 it's a lot of work and work. People are being effective. And that's why they come after us.

00:21:03.520 The amazing thing was you guys go down and what Nick was reporting and Richard Meadows' face was

00:21:08.540 like, what? She was reporting that you guys burrowed down into the law, into the local level and found

00:21:15.380 things the Secretary of State didn't even know, which shocked him. Merrick Garland, though,

00:21:19.400 says in your efforts. Go ahead. Well, here's the point. Let's just think about this. Why would these

00:21:28.200 lefties, why would they want thousands of dead people to be on the voter rolls? Why would they 0.98

00:21:34.940 want duplicates on the voter rolls? Why would they want non-citizens on the voter rolls? Why would they 0.99

00:21:42.100 want people who've moved away and voting in other states? Why would they want those people on the voter 0.97

00:21:47.400 rolls? Let's ask ourselves that question. And I have to say, they are opposed to what we're doing

00:21:52.120 because they want to cheat. They're cheaters. Democrats are cheaters. I wrote a piece about 0.98

00:21:56.520 that a couple of years ago for the Federalists. That's the issue. They want to cheat. So they are

00:22:03.940 upset because, and they say this in the article, that we're following the law. We're finding statutes.

00:22:10.080 We're showing clerks, here's what the law says you have to do. And they think that that's a negative.

00:22:14.700 I think it's pretty darned amazing. 0.97

00:22:18.360 Merrick Garland says that you're a nativist, xenophobe, racist, all of this because you're 0.54

00:22:25.140 focused on principally on minorities and obviously now with the illegal aliens,

00:22:30.400 poor folks from around the world. What say you, ma'am?

00:22:33.740 I say, number one, the only votes that we are trying to, quote, suppress are people who should

00:22:40.000 not be on the voter rolls. Illegal votes, illegally registered people, registrations that were void

00:22:45.720 from the outset. And with regard to these non-citizens, these aliens that are flooding 0.98

00:22:51.980 in our country, I think that they are vulnerable voters. We have training on how to protect vulnerable

00:22:58.300 voters. And I think that these migrants, these millions of people that they're putting all over 1.00

00:23:05.120 the country, I think that the left is intending to take advantage of them, to manipulate them,

00:23:10.680 to get them to register and to get their votes captured. They don't want signature matching.

00:23:15.640 They don't want any verification. They don't want voter ID. Now, why would they be opposed to that,

00:23:20.220 Merrick Garland, AG? Why would any of you oppose that? Because you want to exploit those people.

00:23:25.580 They want to exploit those vulnerable people for their own political power. And that's what I say to

00:23:31.900 Merrick Garland. You putts. You are a terrible person, because you're not protecting these 0.99

00:23:37.200 vulnerable voters by keeping them in Mexico, by keeping them out of this country and away out of 1.00

00:23:43.100 the clutches of the cartels, the drug lords, and these NGOs that are just trying to get them registered

00:23:50.500 so the Democrats can stay in power. That's what we're up against. But we're not going—the only way

00:23:55.040 we can stop them is if we have many, many, many, many, many millions of people watching and doing

00:24:01.020 something to stop it. That's what we're doing.

00:24:05.380 Clearly, they're really freaked out about the challenges. They said, you know, 360,000 came

00:24:09.180 in Georgia. These challenges have them freaked out and overwhelming the election officials.

00:24:13.440 Where do people go to find out more, particularly people who want to volunteer and put their shoulder

00:24:19.020 to the wheel, use their agency here in the last eight months in the run-up to—it's not the most

00:24:23.860 important election. The most—one of the most important events in all of American history,

00:24:27.860 which will be 5 November. Where do they go?

00:24:31.880 Go to whoscounting.us and sign up. Just say that you want to sign up. You'll be asked for your name,

00:24:38.440 address, your county. We need to know what county you're in because that's how we can know who to

00:24:43.660 assign to help start local task forces. We have a handbook, the Citizen's Guide to Building an Election

00:24:49.760 Integrity Infrastructure. We have descriptions of all the things that people need to do. We have task

00:24:56.200 forces and state coalitions around the country. If you go there and sign up, someone will get

00:25:00.540 in touch with you about getting you plugged in and involved and engaged. What Catherine said is true.

00:25:06.040 We need everyone engaged. Voting isn't enough. We've got to watch these school—just like parents

00:25:11.220 watch school board meetings, we need citizens watching the election board, the meetings, not to

00:25:16.600 be angry, not to be hostile, but just to be part of watching every single thing that's going on and

00:25:22.280 making sure they're following the law. That's the number one takeaway from that New York Times

00:25:25.960 article and Rachel Maddow. They don't want the law to be followed. We want a lawful election. 1.00

00:25:33.720 If we have a lawful election, we have a chance to win. They want to cheat. We have to stop them.

00:25:40.340 If we have a lawful election, Trump wins in a landslide. They have to steal it. They know

00:25:45.220 that. Thank you so much, ma'am. Great hit and great hit on Rachel Maddow. Mike Lindell.

00:25:57.940 Nick is actually, you know, most of the time they got you up there mocking you for the lumpy

00:26:01.080 pillows or some crazy thing Mike Lindell's doing. They ain't laughing now, brother. That's a very

00:26:05.840 serious reporter. That's a very serious story. Rachel Maddow knew it, and she had a look on her

00:26:12.440 face. It's like she had seen a ghost. Your thoughts, sir? Well, they're very much afraid,

00:26:19.480 Stephen. The manifestation of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people's hard work over the last

00:26:24.740 three years is coming out now. I have different entities. The Cause of America, I lead a group

00:26:31.780 that in the election crime bureau every Monday night, reaches out to all the leaders, and that

00:26:36.080 goes out to 300,000 people across all 50 states, everybody. We have the Frank Social app. You can

00:26:45.060 get that. That's our election crime app. There are people in your own neighborhood. You can check

00:26:50.020 things out. Everything. We have the Mike Lindell Courage app, Steve. There's Courage app now. You get

00:26:55.420 that, and you can basically canvash your own neighborhood. And by the way, all these other groups

00:27:00.440 out there, and even tied into Turning Point, all the information that comes through goes to my

00:27:06.860 election crime bureau, and we take that, and we're working from the higher up.

00:27:12.560 You're going to hear some big news over the next week or two here that everything that goes out to

00:27:17.460 these lawsuits, they're worried about that, but they're really worried about the stuff we're doing

00:27:21.720 on the ground that you just heard that these other groups are doing. We're all tied together,

00:27:25.920 Steve. We all want the same thing. Secure our election platforms. And you're right. Donald

00:27:32.260 Trump wins. It's the biggest, reddest country you've ever seen. 68% red is what it shows out 0.67

00:27:38.320 there with the polling if you really have an election.

00:27:40.620 A hundred percent. If you really take the polling and you really do it, it's two-thirds of the

00:27:45.400 country's MAGA. One-third is not. Two-thirds of the country's MAGA. And that's what they feel.

00:27:49.820 Mike, hang on for a second. Birch Gold. Gold hit all-time $2,137, but that's not the key. You've

00:27:58.080 got to read the Bank of America report, all these other documents we put up, what they're

00:28:01.620 doing, and what the House, trying to get Chip and Russ Vogt, maybe tomorrow, maybe later

00:28:07.980 today, on Super Tuesday. A financial fiasco. Birchgold.com. Go check it out right now. Back

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00:29:43.400 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:49.480 Also, I know a lot of the folks love Jim Rickards coming on here and want to make sure everybody goes

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00:30:11.840 on a lot more often. In fact, I'll have him on later this week to give you an assessment of both

00:30:16.580 Super Tuesday and, of course, Biden's State of the Union. Axios is reporting this morning. Here's

00:30:21.860 Biden's strategy. He can't talk about the invasion. That's not where he can't talk about the economy

00:30:26.500 because that's a disaster for the American people. He can't talk about what he's doing,

00:30:31.280 national security, geopolitics, because that's also a disaster. Victoria Nuland quit today. Think 1.00

00:30:36.780 about that for a second. The architect of Ukraine. Do you think you ought to give $60 billion in

00:30:41.460 Ukraine? The architect just left the house. So not doing that, he said that he's going to go on

00:30:49.100 a full attack mode on Trump and MAGA, that we're threats to democracy, that we are insurrectionists,

00:30:55.460 we are confederates, all of it. My point, bring it. If that's what you got, dude, bring it,

00:31:00.200 bring it and bring it hard. As Rachel Maddow so charitably said the other day, we'll have Steve

00:31:04.420 Bannon's charm offensive. I'm not looking to be charming. I'm looking to defeat these people

00:31:09.900 and then to, I don't know, prosecute the guilty. Oh, we have plenty of time for that later. First,

00:31:16.740 it's victory. Mike Lindell, you know, Jimmy Kimmel mocks you. All, you know, all these guys mock and

00:31:22.960 ridicule you. You're a clown. You're a bozo. Hey, the guy at the New York Times that's deep diving on 1.00

00:31:28.900 this thing, he ain't laughing. And Rachel Maddow, who's the smartest of them, she's not laughing

00:31:33.780 either. One of the things that shocked him and shocked her, well, she goes, they're creating

00:31:38.620 software? Tell us, tell us about that. Well, they're very much worried, Steve. When I announced

00:31:44.900 the plan in August to secure our elections, we've developed software that actually detects that these

00:31:51.560 machines are online. And that was the biggest lie that blocked any evidence going through for the last

00:31:56.780 three years. Our machines aren't online. Our machines aren't online. And they're very concerned

00:32:01.860 about that. We put it out in November 7th, the election, this last election, 2023. And we had

00:32:09.100 them all over the country. And you had articles come out, like in Kentucky. If Mike Lindell comes

00:32:14.260 here, we're going to arrest him for bringing his devices in. All they are is the device that shows,

00:32:20.240 hey, if they're not online, then don't lie. Look what just happened in South Carolina,

00:32:24.420 where they shut it down because the internet was down. It doesn't make sense, Steve. And they're

00:32:29.260 concerned about that. Remember, I got to take off my tinfoil hat when that judge ruled in Georgia

00:32:34.960 that if you question these machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist anymore. So that ship sailed.

00:32:41.500 Everybody can question things and question our election platforms. And we're working at every

00:32:47.340 level to make them secure, every level. And that's what we need. It's not just one thing. It's

00:32:53.700 everything we can do. And everybody out there needs to be courageous and get involved.

00:32:59.840 No, this is a tidal wave of folks. This is a group effort. President Trump can't do everything.

00:33:05.400 He's got enough on his shoulders. His plate's more than full. And they're badgering today. You know,

00:33:11.000 of course, Fox, Murdoch News naturally has Tricky Nikki on the sofa this morning talking to the guys 0.97

00:33:16.640 on the sofa how great she is and what she's doing. And she's running to defend the country and all that. 0.99

00:33:20.500 And they get President Trump on there. All they do is badger him. They're badgering him about the

00:33:25.120 $400 million. It's just sickening. This is why people have to have his back. This movement,

00:33:30.680 which has got all the spirit and all the willpower we need, just needs to be focused. Mike, people

00:33:35.980 really came up to me at this amazing Ken Paxson. We're going to get Ken on here, I think, in a little

00:33:40.340 while. General Paxson to talk about Texas. And Texas is in the balance right now, folks,

00:33:46.080 between MAGA and the Bush Rove Junta that runs that beautiful and great state. Mike,

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00:35:07.900 The operators, when we have the show in the morning here, Steve, 800-873-1062. You guys have saved

00:35:15.080 their jobs. I'm happy to report that we fought back in these states where the IRS was attacking us,

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00:35:26.640 up. Then I can go, like I'm heading to Illinois today. I'm doing nine speaking things in three

00:35:32.440 days. And I just came from Georgia, Florida. After that, I'll be going to Texas. So I'm out

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00:35:57.140 Brother, thank you so much. We'll catch you later this afternoon. You go with God and keep grinding.

00:36:02.340 You're doing great work.

00:36:03.880 Thank you.

00:36:05.500 Let me have Steve Stern. Steve Stern, you're also part of this. I got Patty McMurray too. Steve,

00:36:11.260 tell us what you got going on. How can people get engaged? Because when Rachel Maddow freaks out, 1.00

00:36:16.160 that's a good thing. We're going to hit a tidal wave of individuals. Everybody is,

00:36:21.540 the pitchfork crowd is coming. And they're going to make sure this is not stolen. Also,

00:36:26.260 we have lawyers at every level. But this is a grassroots populist uprising to say,

00:36:31.020 not only do we support Trump, we are never going to allow again to happen in 2020 because we've seen

00:36:37.280 what's happened in this country and we're not going to tolerate it anymore. Steve Stern,

00:36:40.760 what do you got for us?

00:36:41.440 So we have a big event coming up Monday, the 11th. And we still have a few tickets left because they

00:36:47.840 enlarge it because I'm going to tell you who's coming. So this is going to be a Trump international.

00:36:52.440 And we've invited a famous person to come. We hope he comes. And what's going to happen in this event,

00:36:58.860 it's going to be a golf tournament. It's going to be a speaking event. We have Mel Kay, General Flynn,

00:37:04.120 Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, many, many other people. And we are doing something called Patriots

00:37:09.720 on the Green. You can sign up for it. You can come to me at stern1054 at gmail.com.

00:37:16.680 We will get you in. And what's going to happen is this is a Patriots on the Green summit event.

00:37:23.040 And it's brought to you by the Broward Republican Executive Committee, Chris Marino, chair,

00:37:27.280 Steve Stern, vice chair. And join us for this unforgettable day of golf and solutions

00:37:32.880 for securing our elections and precinct strategy success stories and why that's important,

00:37:38.460 because we're going to have some Patriots there. And we're going to present one more time.

00:37:44.020 One more time. Where do people go, Steve? Where do people go to the get to the to find out more

00:37:48.820 about the event? Patriots on the Green solution summit. 50 states, one person from each state will

00:37:55.740 be on talking about all these great events that's happening in every state and how they can get

00:38:00.560 involved and why that's important and what do you have to do. And what we're going to talk to you

00:38:06.100 about. Go ahead. This is going to be on rumble. Facebook. Yep. And what day is that?

00:38:14.800 This is going to be Monday. It's coming Monday, the 11th. It's right up there on the screen. And

00:38:19.200 then following that on Thursday, we're going to have a huge zoom meeting for election security

00:38:23.880 with top people, just like you were talking about today. And we're going to change a lot

00:38:28.320 of things that are going on. And of course, we're going to have precinct strategy.

00:38:31.500 Steve, go ahead. Yep. Okay, Steve, thank you so much. Thank you. Make sure we get that

00:38:38.200 out there. Grace and Moe put it out. Patty McMurray, part of this story in the New York

00:38:43.720 Times, part of it, you've already had a response of a gateway pundit. What is the beef? What's

00:38:48.160 the situation in Michigan that you're all over?

00:38:52.020 We have an organization in Michigan called Check My Vote. It's an all-volunteer organization.

00:38:56.860 It's run by volunteers, two brilliant men, Bonnie Machabadi and Tim Vedder, who started

00:39:02.860 this organization. They're both involved in the IT business. They created a website where

00:39:08.340 individuals in Michigan can go and check their vote on the voter rolls. I tested it out myself

00:39:15.100 and discovered that I was still registered to vote at the home that I grew up in over 30

00:39:19.940 years ago. And I actually had to drive to the clerk an hour away and ask them to remove my

00:39:25.900 name from the voter rolls after I discovered it was still there over 30 years later. So this is

00:39:30.760 an important tool for citizens. And it's really doing the work that Eric is not doing,

00:39:36.340 the electronic voter registration group that used to be run by David Becker, the Democrat operative,

00:39:43.660 one of the top Democrat operatives in America, as you know, Steve. So this Check My Vote is

00:39:49.900 being challenged by New York Times reporter Alexandra Berzon, who has made it her personal mission to try

00:39:58.480 to discredit them. And in doing so, they've kind of played their hand, I think. What they're doing is

00:40:04.200 they're trying to say that Check My Vote is only interested in going into urban areas. Interestingly,

00:40:10.860 they didn't care when GBI Strategies was only going into urban areas to collect fake voter registrations.

00:40:17.500 But it concerns them that they're cleaning up the voter rolls in Michigan. So they wrote a hit

00:40:23.980 piece, Check My Vote. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But hang on for a second. I want to go back to this.

00:40:31.300 In Check My Vote, she says you people have an obsession. You're obsessed. It's like a cult.

00:40:38.480 Yeah. You're trying to be citizens, right? I just want to make sure I understand,

00:40:42.200 because we know her, right? She's a tough reporter, but she is somehow maniacally focused 1.00

00:40:49.160 on you guys. And I assume, knowing the New York Times that I do, and she and Nick, they're grinders.

00:40:56.380 They do a ton of work. She's come, I think, to all the, I've seen her, and she's come to all the

00:41:00.300 Mike Lindell events. I mean, she's a worker. They're working this. But I take it that they're obsessed

00:41:05.800 with your guys because they understand that what you're doing is working. Am I incorrect on that?

00:41:12.040 No, you're not incorrect. In fact, I recently wrote a story based on the work that Check My Vote did

00:41:16.620 that identified an address in Holland, Michigan, that was a non-existent address that had 19 registered

00:41:23.540 voters. Of the 19 registered voters at this fake address, eight of them had voted. I believe it was

00:41:29.900 a total of 13 votes that they cast between the 2020 and 2022 election. And we were able to verify

00:41:35.960 that with the county clerk, Bob Janetsky, who's been fabulous in helping us to uncover these

00:41:42.540 inconsistencies in the voter rolls. The story came out, and the Holland Police Department was asked to

00:41:48.400 investigate it. They turned the investigation over to Jocelyn Benson's office. And I've been told that

00:41:54.620 since then, Jocelyn Benson has quietly removed that address from the voter rolls that had 19 voters

00:41:59.600 attached to it and eight people who had voted. But that's not what this reporter is interested in

00:42:06.800 talking about as a success story. So let me tell you, this isn't a racial issue. Holland is primarily

00:42:12.840 a white district, and this is ridiculous. I mean, these individuals are doing a great job of going 1.00

00:42:18.920 through. They're all volunteers. They have a thousand of them. Checkmyvote.org. It's an amazing

00:42:24.520 organization. Folks, we won Michigan in 16 by 10,000 votes. Every vote's going to count. 25 of these big

00:42:32.180 counties, every vote's going to count. One more time, where do they go, Patty McMurray, to get to 0.99

00:42:36.500 this fantastic group? Check it out. Checkmyvote.org is the group. Yeah, and go there and check it out.

00:42:44.360 They're working with other states as well. Yeah. No, this is the software. Real quickly,

00:42:50.080 what's your social media, how they get to you at the great Gateway Pundit? You can find me at the

00:42:56.700 Gateway Pundit. I primarily focus on Michigan stories. There's more than enough to keep me busy

00:43:01.760 in the state. Patty, if Biden doesn't win Michigan, he's not going to be president of the United States.

00:43:09.520 They know this. Michigan is like the new Arizona. It's Arizona, Michigan. He got to win. He's got

00:43:15.100 mathematically, you have to, he has to win Michigan. And I say, so you don't think they're going to be

00:43:19.780 stealing in Wayne County. Come on, baby. Patty, thank you so much, girl. You're doing a great

00:43:24.540 job. Fantastic. Tip of the spear. Short commercial, short commercial break. We're going to be back in

00:43:30.260 the war room. Hopefully, we're going to go to the great state of Texas, where it's all in the

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00:45:15.560 Okay. Today, a little different take on the show, and here's the reason, to get back to

00:45:23.800 old school religion, right? We're going Old Testament this morning. The reason is, and

00:45:29.320 I want to go back to Rachel Maddow. In this information war, and I realize a lot of folks

00:45:34.300 can't stand the sound of her voice, but you've got to pay attention to it, because it's smart,

00:45:39.820 and it's the way they roll over there. The New York Times and MSNBC, and MSNBC essentially

00:45:43.960 takes the New York Times and the Washington Post and puts it on television. And you have

00:45:51.680 to understand that this is what the power of that is, and she's focused. She told you,

00:45:56.180 the courts are not going to save us. She gave it to them with both barrels. The courts are not

00:46:00.460 going to save us, and it's going to be 5 November. And then she immediately went to

00:46:05.320 the work of Cleta Mitchell and Catherine Engelbrecht and the Stop the Seal crowd and Mike Lindell

00:46:13.820 and all of it. And they weren't, hey, they weren't making fun and mocking Cleta and Mike Lindell.

00:46:18.120 This is very serious. Nick is a very serious reporter, and Burzon's a very serious reporter.

00:46:23.080 And they are freaked out about the efforts that are being made at the grassroots level.

00:46:27.960 And now these groups are starting to work together, and it's starting to come together.

00:46:32.560 We've got a lot to go, don't get me wrong, but we cannot and we will not let this election

00:46:37.080 be stolen again. Talk about a fight in a civil war. Very honored to have now Attorney General

00:46:43.660 Ken Paxson from Texas. Attorney General Paxson, I was so honored to go to Marty B's in Denton

00:46:50.040 on Sunday. It was 1,000 people there, all to support your candidates. I want you to just take

00:46:54.940 a second. You know, our audience, you became a global figure on this impeachment trial,

00:46:59.520 and our audience really started to understand how the Bush Rove Junta still runs Texas. But

00:47:07.080 people are so blown away by the quality of candidates. You have at the congressional level,

00:47:10.380 at the House level, at the Senate level, at the appellate court justice. Walk us through

00:47:14.520 how this all hangs in the balance today in the great state of Texas, really the leading

00:47:18.580 MAGA state out there, sir. Well, first of all, thank you for coming out. It was extremely

00:47:24.820 meaningful to the people that were there, and it's sort of, it's very symbolic of how important

00:47:30.600 Texas is. And it's important because if we cannot hold on to Texas, the goal here is for the Democrats

00:47:37.800 to have a one-party country where they never really have to worry about elections because they have

00:47:42.700 control of enough states. And so taking Texas would do that. And so they have fought to get

00:47:48.740 control of our Texas House with our speaker, Drunk Dave, who literally lets the Democrats elect him,

00:47:54.900 and then they control the agenda, which effectively stops most of our good things from getting through.

00:48:00.640 Secondly, the Court of Criminal Appeals was taken over by George Forrest, the Republican,

00:48:04.520 but they struck down statutes that directed me to prosecute voter fraud, given that the only other

00:48:09.780 people that can do that are the district attorneys controlled by George Soros and the big counties.

00:48:15.700 We're in serious trouble, and that's why I've spent the last six months of my life since the impeachment

00:48:20.060 on the road recruiting candidates for the Texas House, for the Texas Senate, and for the Court of

00:48:25.700 Criminal Appeals. It's extremely important to the whole country how this turns out today.

00:48:32.920 Well, this is what I don't get. With all the patriots and the grassroots efforts in MAGA and

00:48:38.260 America first, and I mean, and Texas is so important, not just to the country, but really to the world as far as

00:48:44.380 its freedom goes and its cussedness and toughness. Why is the Bush and Roe apparatus, why do they hate you

00:48:51.640 personally, and why do they literally hate Trump and MAGA? Why is it when we're the political muscle and can

00:48:57.380 deliver them overwhelming victories? Why is the biggest enemies we have outside of Soros down in Texas the Bush

00:49:03.560 Hunter? Because they don't agree with us on the issues, and they want to retain power, and so they

00:49:08.640 can't win at the ballot box. I've beaten their candidates in the last two of my attorney general

00:49:14.040 races were against Bush candidates, including George D. Bush. So they can't win at the ballot box, so they

00:49:19.340 try to go after us legally, and then they use these sort of very sneaky ways of getting control of places

00:49:25.280 like the Texas House, where it looks like we're in charge. The reality is they figured out how, the Democrats

00:49:29.960 figured out how to block vote and control which Republicans are running the show, and the same

00:49:34.940 thing with political fields. No one has paid attention to this court. No one knows who's on

00:49:39.740 that court, but George Soros figured out. The Bushes have figured it out, and they want the power, and

00:49:45.220 they don't agree with us on the issues. They don't like Donald Trump. They don't like me, because they

00:49:48.440 don't agree with us on the issues. They're much more aligned with Biden, Obama, Clinton than they are with us.

00:49:55.560 General Paxton, where do people go today to find out if they need to go vote, where they go vote? This

00:50:04.740 is a get out the vote day. What's the best place to send people, and what's your social media, because

00:50:09.780 people want to follow you. At Ken Paxton TX, we're sending endorsements out. You'll have to check your

00:50:15.180 local county, because there's so many different voting locations based on where you live, and then

00:50:19.520 KenPaxton.com. We have all of it on my website, so you can see who we're endorsing, and it's so

00:50:25.400 hard to know, really, who to vote for in some of these races, because people just don't know these

00:50:29.520 people. I know them. I've watched them. I'm trying to make a difference, because it doesn't matter if

00:50:34.300 I'm suing Biden if we're losing the state behind my back.

00:50:39.460 No, I got to tell you, it's an incredible slate of people, and the event the other day was incredible,

00:50:43.760 1,000 people on a Sunday afternoon, and it shows you you're revered in that state and throughout the

00:50:48.780 country by MAGA, so Attorney General Paxton, keep fighting. Your people got your back.

00:50:53.740 Hey, let me just mention three names. Gina Parker, Lee Finley, and David Shank for the Court of

00:50:59.040 Criminal Appeals, and then John Devine for Texas Supreme Court, because everybody in Texas can vote

00:51:03.480 for those candidates, and they're super important. The rest of them, they're going to have to go

00:51:06.740 look at my website. I want the appeals court, and the other one, again, give us those three names.

00:51:13.060 Yeah, so Texas Supreme Court, John Devine, he's an incumbent, but he's very conservative,

00:51:17.200 and they're trying to take him out. And then Court of Criminal Appeals, which is our Supreme Court

00:51:21.280 for criminal matters, is Gina Parker is a challenger. She's good. David Shank is a challenger. He's good.

00:51:27.540 And Lee Finley is a challenger to the Court of Criminal Appeals, and he's good. Those are the three to vote for.

00:51:34.720 General Paxton, thank you so much. Thank you so much for hosting us, and I know it's going to be a late

00:51:39.640 night tonight, but we'll be all over this. Hopefully, talk to you tomorrow, sir.

00:51:42.640 Hey, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

00:51:44.120 The Trump movement goes up against Bush today in Texas. Make sure you go check it all out,

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00:51:58.040 They were highlighted today in Politico as two MAGA candidates that the establishment down there

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00:52:09.640 The Bush apparatus, the Roe apparatus absolutely hates Trump. Hates Trump. And they're making Texas 0.94

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Bannon's War Room - March 05, 2024

Episode 3438： Engaging In More Than Just The Election

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